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>banned from national parks
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Most people aren't crazy.
fear of commitment
because that's commitment
this is why they invented vapes
there are people here retarded enough to actually believe the Federal Government went through the effort and expense to run a DNA test on shit, compare it to all the samples in their own database, find nothing, contact 23andme and ask if they can compare it with their samples, and tried match the results via potential family members, all to solve the crime of who took a dump in the woods

good thread OP, you're a funny guy
And this is why trolling on the internet is a thing. Examine this specimen, gentlemen, you won't find a more pure example of Homo gulliblus terriblus.

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Whats the ideal kit for a Florida outdoors trip?
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Some kind of mobile mosquito net contraption.
sunscreen spf 90
more water
Dawn dishsoap
Bug net suit
Zinc oxide-based sunscreen
Fishing rod & tackle box
Mess kit
Toiletry kit
Fire making kit
1st aid kit
Sleeping kit
4" knife
Emergency communications (CB radio, cellphone, PLB, etc)
English-Spanish translation booklet

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A noose
>A noose
Can't beat that, went with boy scouts a few years ago and canoe down from Palatka to Murphy Island, decided to do island loop, except found out 2 miles in that the shortcut was blocked by a downed tree. Canoed for like 5 hours to the point scoutmaster had just called in search and rescue. When I was preparing my food after, I had 38 ticks on my legs, feet, and (of course) 2 on my balls. It was a really fun trip, though.
Florida kit
>Tick key

Anyone here live in the chesapeake area? My friends and I have been wanting to go foraging for seafood, does anyone have any tips? best time/places to go? any equipment necessary?
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Look son, that one's yelling at us. You can actually see its methmouth from a distance.
>DC suburbs
>Calling someone else subhuman
Have you seen Takoma?

Ducking lol
Poquoson is good, I live here, super small town, 45 mins south from chesapeake

#265-“Sunny Florida” Edition

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Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!

Talk about fishin
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>not just casting upside down

Just by a cheap shanty, propane heater, and a hand auger. Rods for ice fishing are like 15 bucks as well. Pitch the tent in areas where you see semi permanent ice shacks. Flashers/radar are nice, but you don't need it. Just drop the bait to the bottom, reel up about a foot and jig away
This. I'm right handed and i use left handed casting reels
if that's not a mood i dont know what is
i've heard tales of old-timers cutting holes in the ice with an axe and using their normal rods, so if you don't already own an axe, you can probably find something at home depot for not a lot. legality may be dubious if your area has "maximum hole size" laws. though if you don't own an axe you can just go buy a used auger for something like $40 and get a better tool for the job for not much more. all you really need to carry everything is a few plano boxes and a 5 gallon bucket. home depot sells them for $3.25. some small hooks (really small, i'd probably grab some #10 aberdeen hooks and some #14 fly hooks for bait) and a cheap assortment of panfish jig thingies, they're usually cheap hooks with a small, painted lead body, often tipped with wax worms, meal worms, earthworms, maggots, minnows, mousies, or just about anything else that a fish might eat)
some tiny jigs, some just jig heads, and a few marabou jigs, or something of the sort.
there's also the jigging rap, that has a nice action and is a staple in an ice box (i've even used them to jig bridge pilings in the summer and gotten fish, they're worth having around)

now, take your gear, throw it in the bucket, walk out to a likely spot, drill a hole, flip the bucket upside down to sit on, and start jiggling it. jig it any way you can think of for 15 minutes or so, then go drill another hole, and repeat. a lot of people drill a line of holes before they even start fishing, and then just move down the line. so now that i've thouroughly danced around the question, you'll probably have to spend about $100 on gear. you and a friend could pool money, however, and get in comfortably for $75 each. then you both go fishing, if one of them doesn't like it perhapse the other could buy out their half of the gear like "hey, i'll use it, and you won't be out anything but an afternoon or two"

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Hello /out/, was wondering if i could get a little insight from you fellas.
Anybody know any good ways to deter cats? Sadly shooting them is off the table.

Ive had a flock of quail living on my property for the better part of 2 years now, always love seeing them in the yard doing their thing.
anyways to cut to the chase recently my asshole neighbor got a couple of fully grown black cats that she just lets run all over the place, at first i didnt think much of them, until today when i found three dead quails. You know i get the whole cricle of life thing and all but the evil cock sucker didnt even eat them! (pic related).

so yeah back to my question, is there anything i can do to keep them away
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Either kill them or trap them and drop them off at a shelter. They're on your property and killing local fauna, you would be completely in the right.
just kill 50,000, you'd be set for life
This, then dump the cage into a 50 gal can full of water. Dispose of drowned kot how you wish.

Don´t be a fag and talk to your neighbor. If they are a good pet owner they´ll react.

If that doesn't help get a cat. The other cats just want to play, I don´t know where you found the quails but if they were at your doorstep or near stairs they´re giving you a gift. That´s a big meal, you should be honored.

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ITT: pointless stuff you'd never buy.
>campfire stands
This has to be the most retarded and shameless ripoffs I've ever seen.
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Water tablets take like 6hrs. I think I can splurge for the $20 water filter, especially when nearly everything else related to backpacking costs 5x as much
Just below the head, on a slight diagonal, but mostly straight break.
What's wrong with a rain jacket?
>> as wife, “you put everything back in the box right?”
Always always always ALWAYS check your tent bag before heading out.
nah, most tablets are 1-2 hours maximum. pretty reasonable if you ask me.

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Don't know what other board to post this on but I was planning a trip from Los Angeles to Paris via cargo ship container across the pacific and then taking the trans-siberian railroad from Vladivostok to Moscow then a train from Moscow to Paris. After Paris I would book another ship across the Atlantic to New York then take a rent a car across the US back to LA via the american south. Where would I even start with trying to book this?
I know the trip would take a little over 3 months total (give or take)
Thanks lads
>>>/n/ or >>>/trv/
but expect to be harassed, cargo ship travel is a bit of a meme both boards, especially /trv/

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I am a wannabe computer programmer who lives in a house in the suburbs. Recently I've been thinking about how living in the modern world has made humankind soft, weak and dependent on artificial power processes. My upbringing involved the outdoors only as much as was convenient. Never have I truly lived outside of industrial society. As of right now, if the electricity went out tomorrow I would probably die within a month or so. This is not how we should be living.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to learn basic survival skills? Obviously having food in storage and learning how to use firearms is my first step. But beyond that I have no idea. Is there some kind of definitive book I can obtain to learn all I need? Like I said, I live in the suburbs and don't think I can really learn to farm or raise livestock here. I'd like to save up money and someday get away from this rotten world but that's going to take a long time.

tl;dr help a nerd who grew up indoors learn to survive outdoors
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>preppers would be first to be picked off

What makes you say that?
Because they have supplies and I want them.
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good point
OP, you'll honestly learn more of what you need to know over on /diy/. Think about things like basic plumbing, low voltage electrical, small engine repair, carpentry, etc. Innawoods skills will keep you alive for a short time, but long term survival means a whole different set of skills that are valuable not just to you, but to the new community you will eventually become a part of.
I have the book by John Krakauer.

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I was googling what those coats were called that aussies wear, swagman jacket, and this poncho was one of the hits. I liked the looks of it but the buckle in the front. I live in wet weather, pacific coast.
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Australian here. No one I know would really call anything a "swagman jacket." A swagman was basically the same thing as a hobo in the USA. That is a laborer that travels from place to place.
So any company that wants to sell you Australian themed stuff is probably going to use terms like swagman, jackaroo, stockman, bushman etc.
I think what you're thinking of as a "swagman jacket" is essentially a shortened oilskin duster. A company called "Drizabone" makes that kind of thing so, at least in my circles, those sort of coats would probably be called a "drizabone" like a genericized trademark.
Do we actually wear them? I live in a metropolitan area and mostly the only time I will see them is maybe some people wear them to the Dawn Service, on ANZAC Day, if it's going to rain.
I can't speak to what "real Australians" in the country wear.
Homesteading Australian here, i only ever see the farm owners toting drizabones, see alot end up at the tip but.
Just got one awhile back to use as a poncho liner/ hammock under quilt. High as fuck but totally worth every dollar.
Probably grandad's grubby old coat no one wanted. Oilskin is a bit underrated. It's heavy as fuck to wear but it does keep one decently dry while breathing way better than you think it would.
I'd say the 'merican parallel would be like an old timey duster coat that was water proof

The team of the strongest high-altitude climbers from Kazakhstan, Russia and Kyrgyzstan is preparing for a new attempt to climb the eight-thousander K2 in winter 2019.
Alex Txikon will also head for K2 in winter.
To nowdays, the second highest peak of the planet, K2 (8611 m), located in Karakorum on China-Pakistan border, is the only eight-thousander, which no one climbed in winter.

Will they succeed this time?
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>The Russian/Kazakh/Kyrgyz team – aka the Eastern team — returned to K2 Base Camp today after fixing ropes up to the Black Pyramid, at approximately 7,000m. This super-steep section of mixed terrain is among the most relevant difficulties on the Abruzzi Spur route. The climbers, including leader Vassiliy Pivtsov, hope to fix up to Camp 3 during their next push. Back in Base Camp for now, they report being “very tired, very hungry and all OK.”

>Apparently, the expedition’s achievements have drawn new funding that has allowed three new Kazakh members, Ildar Gabbasov, Ahat Smailov and Amaner Temirbaev, to join. They flew into Skardu earlier today.

>Meanwhile, Alex Txikon’s rival K2 team carried up to 96 kilograms of equipment, ropes and supplies up to Camp 1. That dunnage will eventually supply higher camps.
Feb 17
The duo Braun and Shepelin are going to ABC with deposit. Back today.

A few new climbers but they'll have to get a move on and get a lucky break in the weather because the winter season ends soon
>the winter season ends soon
It will not yet be this year, will it?
Weather has been very bad this year. If they’re in the Urubko camp of “winter ends March 1” then it’s gonna be tough. If they’re going by astronomical winter then they definitely have time.
>“A Force 4 hurricane is heading towards K2, with winds of over 210kph,” Alex Txikon has just reported. On the phone with Portuguese meteorologist Vitor Baia, ExplorersWeb has further details.

>“On February 21, Thursday, the gale will reach its peak, with 200kph winds at the summit and up to 70kph at Base Camp,” Baia said. “There can be some snowfall too.”

>Such winds, he added, are indeed hurricane velocity. Luckily for the two parties, conditions will improve after Thursday.

>“February 22 will see 30 to 40kph winds on K2’s lower slopes [6000 meters and below], but still 100 kph on the summit,” Baia noted.

>“On the 23rd, winds will decrease to 50 to 60kph at the summit and less than 40kph below 7,000 meters.”

>The winds will continue to drop, and by the end of the week, things should start looking brighter — briefly — for the two parties of climbers. “By February 24, there’ll be about 40kph on top and less than 30kph below 7,000 meters,” he confirmed.

>The key prediction: “February 25th could be the best day, with less than 30kph winds at all altiitude points, extremely cold and with some clouds wrapping the summit.”

>However, this calm window will close fast and brutally. On February 26, the wind will blow strongly again. “It will be even worse on the 27th; they must be back in Base Camp by then,” Baia warned.

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Share experiences

For me, it was getting buttsquirted by this little friend for 3 days after swimming in a river with no metronidazole in hand
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Nigger don’t lie. That’s for vaginitis
Imodium will keep you going when you need to beeline it to your car.

oh and some meth.
I have some caffeine pills usually
>It can treat various types of infections, including certain types of vaginal infections.
>It can treat various infections
delete this

Take your kids to the national parks and get ball and brain cancer. Watch out these sick freaks will kill you
>For nearly two decades at the Grand Canyon, tourists, employees, and children on tours passed by three paint buckets stored in the National Park's museum collection building, unaware that they were being exposed to radiation.
Although federal officials learned last year that the five-gallon containers were brimming with uranium ore, then removed the radioactive specimens, the park's safety director alleges nothing was done to warn park workers or the public that they might have been exposed to unsafe levels of radiation.
In a rogue email sent to all Park Service employees on Feb. 4, Elston "Swede" Stephenson — the safety, health and wellness manager — described the alleged cover-up as "a top management failure" and warned of possible health consequences.
"If you were in the Museum Collections Building (2C) between the year 2000 and June 18, 2018, you were 'exposed' to uranium by OSHA's definition," Stephenson wrote. "The radiation readings, at first blush, exceeds (sic) the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's safe limits. …

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Not them but it pays like shit
Im a low ranking maintenance worker and the pay is shit but I'm a student so w/e

Depending on the park it can be pretty /out/

We get a lot of downtime which gives me time to venture off and stuff which is nice
yall nibbas dont know bout radiation hormesis
Grand Canyon is the problem child of the National Park Service, I don’t know how that park functions day to day. They’re a massive shitshow.
Unless someone opened the buckets and ate/breathed the dust/contents, virtually no exposure. It's fucking uranium ore and a tiny amount of uraniums decay daughters.

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Arborwear and Patagonia both make better work wear. Carhartt is fashion taxed poor quality shit for fatties.
Patagonia. Wore their stuff for years as a kid, have a revulsion of North Face due to stupid kids in college wearing their stuff all the time.
eh, maybe you're thinking of Carhartt WIP stuff or whatever trendy shit hipsters have adopted. Their work wear line is still solid and more bang for your buck than Patagonia's. I don't need to spend an extra hundred fifty bucks on Patagonia outerwear that might only last a few months longer than Carhartts. I like arborwear too, would like to get some of their pants sometime.
My dude are you really that dense. You’re in /out/ and your muh /pol/itics are greater than environmental concerns?

God you’re a weak faggot
Nah, I work at a Carhartt dealer. The mainline stuff gets the corners cut more and more every year. Another advantage of the Patagonia is the warranty and their repair program. Carhartt warranty is awful. If the zipper on a coat fails the most they do is mail you a new zipper and expect you to go to a seamstress and pay to have it attached.

Please spend $6,000,000 on overpriced Yuppie crap: the website
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I'm pretty sure Bergans still sells jackets in NA. It's not exactly hard to import if not.
>they review stuff that's widely available or otherwise noteworthy in America.
The former superseding the ladder by a large margin.
They do not. I work for a former dealer. Their gear was nice but importing it is laughable. They didn't really make anything super unique.
The jacket market is flooded with quality options. Bergans is still very quality unless I'm unaware of some quality drop. Any review website should at least have something from them. To not have anything from any of the companies I listed is laughable.
They don't cover much montane, mammut, or berghaus either. It's an American website. Their lists would double in size if they brought the big euro brands in too.
I'll add though that you are right, bergans is good shit. The problem is the saturation you mention. There's just so much decent gear out there.

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Climbing General #3

A place to talk about climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

What was your first lead? Mine was Physical Graffiti, 5.6 2 pitch in Calico Basin, Red Rock.
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Can you recommend me a knot that can slide along a rope but stays in place when weighted?

I know this is kinda OT, but basically I have to hang something (you can pretend it's me if that makes you feel better) and change the height regularly. I have been using a prussik, and it works well except that it requires two ropes in order to be adjustable all the way to the top and then there is the loose end of the hanging rope which gets in the way.

Previously I was running it from the load up through a carabiner and off to the side through a eyehook before it was tied back onto itself with a tautline hitch. This uses one rope and keeps the end out of the way but has a side line in the way and the side line has to be twice the adjustable height, which uses a lot of rope.

Today I was playing with the munter hitch and variations (mini munter wrapped around a carabiner worked best) but all require a stopper knot or they will slip under load and vibration. They are difficult to raise as well.

What other knots can I look into?
Blake's hitch, distel hitch, klemheist
If I'm going top roping and want to make my anchor tied to trees, then all the gear I need is:

- Dynamic climbing rope
- Static rope for anchor
- 2 locking carabiner for master point
- Some material to pad the rope over the edge and around trees
- belay device+locking carabiner, harness, shoes

Anything I'm missing? And is a Petzl push 9mm rope suitable for my static rope?
Sounds good to me.
>Dynamic climbing rope
sure. but static works for trs, too. that's what gyms use, and i actually prefer static because there's no stretch when you blow a move. i bought a static rope just for tring. added bonus: it saves the wear on a more expensive dynamic rope.
>[9mm] Static rope for anchor
sure. alternatively, i use webbing or 6mm cordalette
>2 locking carabiner for master point
only need 1.
>Some material to pad the rope over the edge and around trees
no. just extend your anchor so the climber's rope is beyond the edge. and since the anchor doesn't move the trees don't need padding.
>belay device+locking carabiner, harness, shoes
you forgot this

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