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What foods does /out/ take for the trails? Do you pre cook food, only reheat, or eat only cold food? What are your favourites? What did you try that you will never eat again?

>High calorie eat-cold chocolate pudding
It was a disgusting meme
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>>1583339
I permethrin everything
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>>1583401
Based and anti-tickpilled.
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>>1583339
Keeps the weevils out
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>>1583091
Home-baked loaf of bread cooked in a frying pan. Gives it a hard, packable crust & space-saving shape. Flavored with whatever
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>>1583158
You get more, and better nutrients that way.

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>tfw you live in one of the northernmost metros in the world
>tfw winters are long and bitterly cold
>tfw the summers are usually really sunny, warm and long days, so it's actually not to bad
>tfw last winter was pretty bad. Colder and longer than usual.
>tfw excited for summer
>tfw an unprecedentedly bad summer. Chilly, rainy, and Britain tier overcast.
>tfw mother nature basically passed on summer this year
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>>1581646
yeah honestly. some people on here like to shit on milsurp but it is top tier for winter. It's warm, durable, and most importantly, cheap. I use one of pic related along with a wool sweater and it works great.
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>>1580285
I like to see the plants though. my favorite thing about going out is looking at the flora, the fungus, the bugs, the colors, etc. I also enjoy paddling, kayaks or canoes, which you can't do in the winter, at least not on lakes. yes, winter can be very beautiful in its own rite, but for me, snow, twigs, and the occasional hoarfrost gets old quick. And seriously, who doesn't enjoy warm weather? The cold can be very nice and bracing but no one can say they don't enjoy a warm sunny day.

>>1580585
Also this. In the dead of winter here we only get maybe 5 hours max of actual full sunlight.
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>>1580265
summer sucks.

fall>spring>winter>summer
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>>1580265
move.
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>>1580695
as a georgian swamp kid i can confirm. summer insects are the worst. at least you can shoot most of the other pests. i use a thermacell. it even works in the swamp

Hey i am quite new here, whats the best way to learn how to use a knife for /out activites
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>>1582908
hello quite newfriend. /out/ is very slow and has a very useful catalog. common equipment like knives, shoes and tents usually have at least one active thread, as do many /out/ activities. please check there to see if your topic already exists before starting a new thread.
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just get a mora and baton
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>>1582988
Oh,ok tyy
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>>1583075
and quit namefagging
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>>1582908
just do it.

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I'm planning a 3night trek in Bibao at the end of October.
Anyone know the area?
I found info on https://fr.wikiloc.com/
I'm wondering if there are any locals or people who've been there and have recommendations.
Looking for ~60k, ideally a loop.
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>>1583549
Head to the Picos. Good stuff there, weather might be pretty grim n October. Otherwise loads of good surfing there, might be a cool chance to learn.
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>>1583614
Cool, I’ll look it up, thanks
I’m from Britany in France, and half Irish,so foul weather is pretty much in my blood

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How often do you go out and how long do you stay out how often and for how long do you think someone would need to go innawoods to keep their skills/ ability relatively honed.
At what point are they basicaly larping.
Ill start.
>Every weekend not overnight to the area to clear dead leaves/general firewood collecting and maintenance of my camp area (on my families land so only a couple hour hike from were i live makes this possible).
>1-2 a month for a 2-3 night stay at my camp.
>Pic not related
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>>1583356
never, i just larp so i can shit talk people's gear
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Only get to go /out maybe once a month, during the summer maybe once a week with fishing with my dad and brothers and the sorts.
Need to get a car as it sucks not being able to drive off for the weekends.
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I leave my house on the daily and commute to work on my trek 520 with panniers. This allows me to carry my change of clothes and shower gear. I work my eight hour day, neck my hip flask of gooch and ride the 25 minute commute home to my wife and three kids. Outdoors is a state of mind for me, not a state of being, it is so beyond reach for us wage cucks that you have to find it wherever you may be. It just a matter of chocking the office door open and switching off the aircon, live in the moment anon... I poured myself a glass or three of wine tonight and sparked up the hobo stove on the back porch while the kids ate their tea and had a shower, even convinced the middle child to read a story for the other two. Life is made up of moments, make them count anon. For all of us suburbanites, the moments that feel like we are doin' the outdoors thing count for so much. Those of us /out/ists that live in the rural or remote setting can count ourselves amongst the happy few. Modern life is a difficult concept for the average caveman...
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>>1583675
this was beautiful i'll be screenshotting this
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>>1583679
Thanks anon, it is all of my feels...

do you guys use shit buckets? seem better than the $1k composting toilets.

>bucket + bag + peat moss + piss bottle.

you want to have a bottle around your cock when your shitting so piss doesn't get in the bucket. then when you're done you just give it a shake and a topping of moss.
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>>1583230
I only shit once every 3 to 5 days and i empty it.
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>>1583231
>I only shit once every 3 to 5 days

how much heroin do you do?
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>>1579437
I use exactly this op. Live off-grid full time. Except I line the bucket with a garbage bag & cut the top off a small water bottle for a piss funnel. Works great. Hate using a "toilet" now; piss splashing, shit plugging ...
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>>1583486
None, its not abnormal ive spoken to doctors about it.
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>>1583492
It may not be abnormal but it damn sure aint healthy

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I'm on the east coast, thinking of joining a rod and gun club for the hunting and shooting ranges. Does anyone else do this?

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Post your patches.
Post links to shops.
Post designs.
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>>1583850
Well, if you sent them that drawing posted earlier I can kinda understand.
Your design has too many little details that just don't come across well on a small stitched patch.
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>>1583915
I did rework it quite a bit and smooth everything out before I sent it. My main problem is that they can't even seem the line the colors and outlines up. I think the eyes bother me too. gonna have them fix those.
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>>1583850
Id say the face and eyes need the most work, the patch face just doesn’t translate and look as cute as it does on the original image. Probably better circular eyes would help like u were thinking . Most of the other small details look decent
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>>1583925
yeah, I agree. I don't think the smile looks too terrible. but the eyes just make the whole thing look wonky as hell. I will talk to them about it
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>>1583933
The eyes. But I think everything else looks good

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Can we get a frontier/mountain man thread in here? Post mountain man pics, equipment and shelter
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I'm struggling to find the proper resources on how these men lived, aside from the occaisional Townsends and Dave Canterbury videos. I'm most interested in how they build short and long term shelters, and their methods of trapping animals and tanning hides for clothing purposes
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>>1583642
Give your Heart to the Hawks is going to change your life.
Also the book of buckskinning volumes.
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>>1583643
Thank you, anon, I'm genuinely considering ordering all 8 issues of the magazine and Give your Heart to the Hawks, now. Anything I can get my knuckledragging hands on will be great
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>>1583642
>sleeping on noodles

Just saved myself the cover price of this larper pander rag.
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>>1583671
This magazine is a mixed bag, really. Some shit is good, others reek of LARPing or urbanite camping

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Have any anons backpacked the Wallowas? Going with a friend on Labor Day Weekend. Will Eagle Cap be crowded as shit? We're thinking of sumiting less crowded peaks.
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>>1583445
Really wanted to get out there with one of the lads this year just couldnt quite swing it. I would assume it would be busy but not sure how crowded it gets, its kinda a drive from the big cities. If anything would be crowded, it would be there area in the pic tho kek
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>>1583509

My follow-up to this is, assuming that it is crowded, how much does it take away from your enjoyment? It varies from person to person, but my friend is kinda autistic so he absolutely wants to avoid crowds, so we might not even get to Eagle Cap.

How do you guys prefer to go /out/?
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>>1582187
"The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait until that other is ready, and it may be a long time before they get off." -HDT
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>>1583555
High school is a tough time, but just remember that it doesn't last forever.
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>>1582187
With my dad or best friends
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>go fast, go alone
>go far, go with others
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I found the best balance to be going on backpacking trips with an /out/ gf. Then I lost /out/ gf. Now it's normie car camp where I get drunk and spend the whole time cooking (so as not to deal with all the bs) or solo backpacking.

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Why havent you taken the Emu pill yet?

-2lbs of bagged feed per day, or 20lbs forage per day, per bird
-50ft x 50ft per bird

Fertile eggs $25 each
Chicks $100 each

15 to 45 eggs per year per bird
65 to 120lbs adult weight
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>>1581459
>eating ALL the eggs
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>>1574778
No in Australia breeds of cows explode if you don't give them drugs because they can't handle the heat. The ones up north are bred to roam and it's quite common they are run over and explode from methane build up in the gut.
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>>1582928
It might not be the heat actually, might be a side effect of breeding, kinda how dairy cows can't survive without being milked constantly. We have bred monsters.
There's also a guy in Sweden who served dairy cow meat in his restaurant because the meat is better because it's not been bred to produce more meat!
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>>1571201
Yeah I remember when I was a kid everyone thought emuburgers were gonna be the next big thing, well they were still getting hit by cars on the highway years after people started letting them run free after they started bleeding money.
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>>1582928
sauce? i understand that finishing cattle on leukana requires inoculation with gut flora to allopw them to digest it properly, but ive never heard of brahmans or droughtmasters just blowing up for shits and giggles

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It's time I tried tarp, What's a good and cheap one, Thinking about 3x3
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>>1583063
There are some areas that aren't worth trying to save weight in.
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>>1580990
This looks sick. I'm assuming it can't take the role of a waterproof rain poncho tho?
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>>1572469
Why?
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>>1583237
It can actually. I've used just the swagman in rain pretty fine. But if you want to walk for days through the rainstorm, just click helikon or any standardized US military poncho to it, it's made to be compatible. There are videos on Youtube about this if you want to see how it works
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>g'day, CUNT!

Post your favorite food to eat while /out/ and recipes that you want to share. Doesn't even have to be made on site.
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>>1581642
>flour tortillas
pleb
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>>1581865
i just googled tortilhas and copied the 1st one that showed
i don't think i even have flour tortillas in my shit hole country
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>>1581868
What the hell country has corn but not flour tortillas?
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>>1581878
Shithole ones apparently
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>>1579333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKD8eGpkKx0
Not salmon/tuna but same basic process. They're already cooked in the cans. Canning raw fish would be pointless.

/Out/ists, how do I make my sleeping bag warmer? I have one that is rated for 2°C, and would like to use it during the winter, when it could possibly be down to -22°C. Of course, I'll be in a tent, and have good insulation from the ground. I'll also be using a sleeping bag liner, but that doesn't help much.
So how can I make my sleeping bag much warmer? I was thinking of sewing another liner made of fleece and put it inside my sleeping bag, Will that be enough? What do you suggest, anons?
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>>1582777
>Bag testing is reliable, it's done in laboratory settings with basically no variables to skew the results.
Right which is why it isn't reliable as a 'real world' rating. What it does is allow you to compare one bag with another, but doesn't give you a realistic understanding of how the bag will function under different conditions. The is especially true with down. There are many critics of the EN rating system and the way loft is measured. It's also well established that Katabatic and Western Moutaineering, who don't use the EN rating system have much more realistic ratings on their bags. These opinons are held by some of the most experienced and well regarded hikers and adventurers. This isn't some crackpot theroy made up by an anon. If Cam Honan and Andrew Skurka make a claim about anything to do with outdoor gear you can bet money that it's pretty spot on.
The EN system isn't _wrong_ it's just not the be-all-end-all of bag rating, and is a long, long way from perfect.
>small brands
Why? The smaller firms have been the ones making the best gear for a long time. Their production standards are higher, their customer care is top notch, and they can easily make custom orders. PHD, Katabatic, WM, just because they are small doesn't mean they are bad. There's just a much smaller market for high end bags. The every joe isn't looking to spunk $400+ on a sleeping bag.
Also while the tips you repsonded to OP with are legit, they will never, ever, push a bag rated for 2C to -22C.
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>>1583016
>much more realistic ratings on their bags
Really? I remember seeing the WN ratings on their site and being impressed by the alleged weight:temp ratio. But yes, while small brands like that may have an excellent and well earned reputation, they don't have the transparency of bags that have been tested independently. And there are lots of small brands or generic brands that don't fall into the category of high-end gucci outdoor gear. I'm thinking of the discount stuff you'll find on Amazon.
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>>1577145
Look up thermarest blankets. They have some that go over the sleeping bag, but I think they are pricey. Might aswell Just get a warmer sleeping bag at that point.

Or you could put heated rocks into your bag, heard that helps.
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>>1577145
Moisture from your body & breath will have the thin bag wet in no time, whatever you add. I've slept comfortably in -35 with a -32 rated cheap-ass Woods thinsulate bag that cost just over $100. A snorkle to breath so I could seal it right up would've been nice :) Spend a little money. Or dont listen to the people you asked for advice & go learn for yourself
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>>1583178
The hot rocks help for about an hour


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