I posted here recently asking how hard it would be to transmission swap a fwd car by removing one out of a "diy" parts yard and then swapping them over, with almost no mechanical experience and very limited tools. The response was mixed and in the end I thought I'd give it a go.Well, this is fucking difficult and I'm a little stuck. Pic related is the new (old) transmission going into my car. I don't have a transmission jack, and yes that's my brothers jack on inflated tires holding up my front end sue me osha (it was only for a bit, to get clearance for my miserable pyramid of tires with the transmission on top). Anyway the issue is, HOW THE FUCK DO I GET IT IN holy shit it's so heavy and it needs to be 180% perfectly aligned to go back into its little guide holes. In my mind this was simple - just line them up and slide it in. Nope. Fuck you. Suffer. The problem is the bottom of the trans is this horrible rounded wonky shape and I physically just can't lift it from above and maneuver it around. Originally I put a ladder on one side of my car, and had this steel table thing on the other and put another ladder between them, above my engine bay and run three ratchet straps underneath my trans the idea was just ratchet it up, ez peasy right? Nope fuck you suffer didn't work because the trans bottom isn't flat it lifted and then the weight would pull it up on an impossible angle to get in. Also it was bending my ladder.Anyway you got any tips? My plan is to just slowly jam bits of wood at various angles undr the trans until the angle is perfect then somehow slide the black thing it's on towards the engine. But this seems completely dumb there has to be a better way (that doesn't involve buying a transmission jack..).
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>>27632894Get yourself a low-profile, small floorjack. Put transmission on it, strap it tight so it won't fall off, and jack it to position
>>27632894I use a motorcycle jack200 dollars at harbor freight. You can probably return it when you're done if you want but it's handy.
Shit the harbor freight transmission jack is even cheaper. Just spend 125 dollars lol you nigger
>>27632894Figure out how to attach it to an ordinary jack and lift. Alternatively, dig a ditch, push the car over it, and have your brother help you put the ship ballast back in place if you want him to hate you forever.
>>27632927No, I refuse out of principle at this point. I've come this far and my suffering will not be for nothing.
>>27632929>Figure out how to attach it to an ordinary jack and lift. Yes this was my next step, built some sort of wood housing and put the trans in it then jack it up. Just wanted to know any other ideas before I did that.
>>27632960This would be easier if you have 2 jacks available. Build a wood cradle and use some straps and jack it up with two people simultaneously.
>>27632894keep the front lifted with stacked tires or more jack stands, remove the middle tire and put the floor jack in the middle of the tires and jack up trans on the black board?
>>27633008This was my exact idea, I actually already tried (its how I even got it raised onto the tyres) this the problem is I jack it up and the board is extremely unstable but also unmaneuverable and the angle to get it into the guides/flywheel hole has to be extremely perfect. I think I'll just spend the next 5 hours doing it like an ancient Egyptian, pry up, put a tiny bit of wood underneath, and go round in circles doing this until I magically get the perfect angle. I got the jack under my oil pan giving me a limited bit of movability because it's just resting lowered on 1 mount. If that doesn't work I'll set it on fire.
>>27632894I'd place the jack on a sheet of ply so it rolls easy on the cobbles. Make my stack of wood on top of the jack, using the wheels/cobbles to make rest points where I could add more wood, to get to the required height. Also, lower the front of the car, so you don't have to jack as high. GL
>>27632894Maybe you can use the spare tire and a towel to sit the transmission on the jack?
>>27632894Why not remove engine and pull up t. Wrenchlet
>>27633033why not combine all 3 ideas? keep the trans on the board and use some wood to straighten it and the jack under the board then use your ratchet strap ladder pulley but use the jack to relieve pressure on the ladder then just wiggle it bunch until it lines up
>>27633046I thought about this. The problem is the height of jack + tire + trans can't clear under the car unless I do some extremely dodgy stuff (only 1 jack), but even if so the bottom of the trans isn't flat, so it will rest on the tire on some fucked up angle and not go in, so I'd need to make some wood housing or something I dunno.
you can do it I believe in you
>rawdogging a trans swap with no experience nor trans jack
You're not going to like this op, but you have to get under it yourself and lift it up into place.Yes.Lay on your back, have your brother help you lift it onto your chest then lift up and slide into place.
>>27633148Do you think a Honda driver can bench a transmission?
>>27633129This. I never dared. Good luck oppie.
>>27633150Calling you out. Civic Si, 260lb bench (easily for 2, confirmed, one second pause, competition standards). If you bench less, apologize now. Though you are usually right.I will also raise you a Mazda 3 driver who benches 400, but he is competitive.
Also, oppie, you are a legend. Don't hurt yourself and god bless.
Ay lmao we told you your car would end up a lawn ornament for months until you finally get it towed to a shop
Get a cherry picker for like $50 off Craigslist or Grindr or FBM or whatever you use in your local area. Get some straps and get kinky with the trans. Raise it up from above and j-j-jam it in.
>>27632894I'm applauding the redneck-ingenuity here, but you are gonna get in some seriously deep shit. STOP and get some hunks of 6x6 pressure treated wood and cut them to length. Use them to prop the motor. You will need the floor jack to lift the trans. You've GOT to have that easy up/down capability to manuver the damned thing into place.
>the dumb nigger is going out the bottomlmao it's 20000x easier to lift the whole drivetrain out the topgood luck getting any of that back in LMAO
>>27632894Harbor Freight you dumb bitch. There's even a coupon right now for $30 off so it's like $95
I don't live in USA transmission jacks are like $300 plus here ;_;Anyway I finally got it in. So much suffering and pain felt like a fucking ancient Egyptian just slowly jamming and prying it up with little sticks and bricks, lowering the jack under my engine up and down like a million times as well as the trans to get the perfect angle, using all my strength to push and shove it, ratcheted it up slightly and lay on my back using my both feet shoulders pressed into a tire stack to JUST get it in. Just need to reassemble everything and there we go - replace my blown trans for 200 dollars and 2.5 days of suffering (removing old trans from wreckers, removing mine, putting new trans in). Was it worth it? Absolutely not :)
>>27633726The metal thing is the frame to a bar, you know like alcohol thing. My dad had it in his garage, super convenient but needed to lean it and put bricks on it and tie it to a tyre lol otherwise it couldn't reach using the ratchet.
>>27633730It's in. It's over.
>>27633734BasedWhy is the engine bay red?
>>27633730>>27633734Make sure you put oil in it
>>27633579>>27633579>>27633579OP I applaud the nigrigging as well, but stop before you crush yourself with the tire idiocy. You have done a FANTASTIC JOB getting this far, no bullshit, but right now you need the closest thing to the "right tool" and a longish crowbar of some kind to wiggle the thing around and a jack for up-down is essential.
op wasn't a faggo today, imagine that
>>27633734BUT DOES IT WORK?
>>27633734>tfw you now question if you put the throwout bearing in
>>27633129>>27633157hey i was in OP's situation and managed to do it with no prior experience BUT admittedly, it was rwd and the gearbox was light enough for me to bench press it into place.https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/clutch-replacement-write-up.216535/in the above the guy did it with an engine support bar, one end holding the engine side of the tranny, other holding the wheel well side. dunno if this will help you though
>>27633850wait nvm saw he got it in, very nice
>>27633726Sounds well worth it to me. You learned that you have it in you to do one of the hardest automotive repairs made 30x harder because you didn't have the proper equipment.Saving yourself thousands of dollars and learning that you should perhaps spend hundreds of dollars (or borrow) all the tools you need before you start is worth it unless you earn so much that all the time spend actually cost you more in lost income than you saved by doing it yourself.Heck, just the exercise probably did you a ton of good.
>>27633730I'm impressed. This is something I do not ever want to do on my civic type r but fuck me these things do have bad second gear synchros so it's almost inevitable. Dropping the trans on my Miata is a fucking joke, but FWD cars FUUUUUCK me. Those jack stands look heavy duty. Is it a double pin design ?
>>27633150Honda manual transmissions are only around 80 pounds. IDK about the autos. It isnt as easy as bench pressing cause its a wierd shape and your under a car and trying to bolt it in. Also tired cause pulling a transmission out of a shitbox is a tedious experience. We wrapped the transmission & I held the straps from above so that my friend could put it in place.
>>27633734Hopefully its a good gearbox. It would suck if the car was in the junkyard cause the transmission was slippy and then you put all of that work into putting it in your car and then it doesn't work. >Happened to a friend
>>27633976Horrifying. Has me considering a rebuilt from a reputable builder over a junkyard trannie even if it's 2x
>>27633758>Why is the engine bay red?I read somewhere that it makes car run faster
>>27633994I just wonder if such a thing even exists anymore. Seems like even the reputable parts brands are all Hecho en Chine now. Been hearing grumblings about replacement main bearings being shit as an example.
>>27633730This is absolutely beautiful.Congrats OP, you made us proud
>>27633807Shhhhh.Now is not the time for OP to find out he bought a blown transmission.That's for tomorrows thread.
>>27634073Dude this shit pisses me off much. These companies' entire mission statement used to be doing the work for you of sourcing good quality and correctly sized bearings, all in a one-stop-shop storefront. Now you throw a set of All Balls bushings on a bike and the rear linkage is worse in a year than the old OEM ones were in ten years.
>>27632956youre a fucking moron, sage this thread
>>27633976>>27634091We cruising boys, runs like a dream.
>>27634984Fuckin A! You mad bastard, congratulations!
For a small fwd gearbox like that, lie on your back, pull it onto your chest (feel free to have some padding) and bench press it up and wiggle it into position.
>>27634073Honda has a decent aftermarket for gear sets and synchros and sometimes OEM you can still find. https://www.instagram.com/3ni_dale?igsh=NHhqdzJtZGNzaHZ4This dude seems to know what he's doing.
>>27633758VTEC
>>27635014i thought you suggested to bench press the whole fucking car at first
>>27632956as someone who's been in your position before (not quite as retarded though), i can promise you that having the right tools for a job is life changing, makes everything 10000x easier. i learned long ago to give up jamalrigging tools and just spend a few bucks at harbor freight
Godspeed anon I didn't think you would be able to pull it off.
The last fwd transmission I did, I just fucking sent it and stuck that shit on by hand with no help.Try that.
>>27634984Good job, I told you that you could do it in the last thread as long as you had the right trannyI’ve had my engine and trans in and out of my truck 10 times in the last 2 days and it takes like 5 min to do it with the right tools kek
>>27635450>A pressI swear that's the last major tool I don't have.
>>27635476For pressing bearings & bushings you can do most stuff with a small 10-ton bench press. Pressing old, rusted bushing sleeves from control arms rarely goes above 6 ton on my 20-ton press, and thats without any heat or chiseling beforehand
>>27633734Want a blowjob? You deserve it.
>>27634984Pest?
Are these honda transmissions really that heavy? I bench pressed the c60 back from an mr2 for the clutch and flywheel job.
>>27633758CUZ RED MAKES IT GO FASTER!!!! STHEWPID OOMIE!!!
>reading this thread knowing I have to do a clutch in my Camaro soonI get RWD is easier but the T56 isn't exactly light, never dropped a transmission before and I can't say I'm looking forward to it
>>27637009I'd get a transmission jack and a friend to help. Or there's guides online for modifying a normal jack. Good luck! Don't be put off by this thread, op made it way harder on himself not having proper tools or help (and it being fwd).
>>27632894hahahahaahaha thanks. i was thinking of saying fuck it and dropping this thing without a proper tranny jack but you’ve convinced me otherwise. i know trannies are heavy as shit and i’m the strongest guy in the household. nobody can really help me out. thanks for selling me on a new tranny jack, anon! props to you for being a stubborn shithead just like me THOUGH. people that call it quits and send it to the mechanic after the first bump in the road are much worse.
>>27637009Seconding>>27637207Advice in this thread + YT + investment (or rental of) the right tools + patience + situational awarness (such as checking every time you crawl under the car that it and everything attached to it is secure or secured to something else like a transmission jack) = success. Best of luck, we believe in you!
>>27637386I have a good regular Daytona jack and stands, I'll get a set of ramps soon, and a pretty good repertoire of tools at this point, it's just intimidating doing something big like that the first time is all. I'm giving myself the weekend to just get it out since it's my project car, gonna order additional trans parts if needed ( please don't have a fucked up input shaft)
>>27633734Good shit. I was the guy about to do a clutch job in your last thread, makes me glad I had access to a lift and a couple of bros to help me out.Squeezing that awkwardly shaped 70lb lump of metal back in the car and getting it to line up with the engine was a pain in the ass but we got it done surprisingly quick, pulling it out took much longer.
>>27632956get a friend and just use a car jack like that one doing nothing at the front of your car. easy. dont set it on the metal of the jack use a block of wood. its what I did. i dont have a "trans" mission jack
>>27633726>lots of woodsounds like carpenter work to me. im doing the same thing right now in my YARD. this is gonna suck. ill put some concret slabs under it or something so everything doesnt sink it. last time I just had a friend help hold it on top of the jack and hold it in place while i started the bolts
>>27632921If this is as reliable as Pittsburgh's socket wrenches, OP won't need to return it. In fact, OP will never need to return anything ever again.
>>27633734congrats, you are no longer a wrenchlet, start collecting more tools and working on your own shit.Nicer cars only cost alot to fix if you are paying somebody else to do the work.
Is it possible to lay under the trans and push up and bench press it in?
>>27638331He's suggesting OP use it to jack up the transaxle not support the vehicle.
>>27640614it would be very painful
>>27640652your a big trans