Ford should make a luxury Mustang to compete with Cadillac, Audi, BMW, Lexus, etc...Call it the Lincoln Cougar or something
>>27629672>make a luxury MustangSo you're saying they should bring back the Thunderbird. I agree.>CougarIf they do that I'd like to see them bring Mercury back and use it as an alternate styling and trim level for all their models like they used to.I'd also love to see them make a UTE like the Ranchero again and I think the Cougar brand would fit that nicely.
>>27629683For a realistic product in today's market, Ranchero could be an EV pickup to compete with Cybertruck maybe?
there was a leak of a planned thunderbird
>>27629683>>27629742Thunderbird would be cool as some sort of super high-end touring car
The Mustang is the best selling coupe in the history of the world as it is, I really doubt Ford is very worried about """competing""" with brands who sell fewer V8 2 doors combined than the Mustang does. Besides a Premium is pretty nice as it is. People who buy mustangs aren't going to want to pay more for one that's heavier and slower.
I've been saying for a long time it would be cool if they took a version of the ecoboost mustang and rebodied it as a turbo coupe. It also avoids the massive stigma because it's its own car as opposed to just a poverty fleet trim/unit mover.I doubt it would be good in 2025 or even sell well, but would be nice to see.ironically I didn't like my tbird but I blame most of that on being a fox chassis car.
>>27629813Bay shot for the hell of it
>>27629707They could make it like the Maverick. Offer it with the 4 cylinder hybrid; but have it be lighter with a larger bed and it could take the place of the old light truck market the Ranger used to fill.Then maybe offer a GT version with a big engine that you could tow with and haul ass in.
>>27629798The target isn't Mustang buyers. It's luxury sports buyers who would otherwise buy a Cadillac or an Audi or something.
>>27629826People buying Audi are 0% cross shopping a Mustang. People who buy Audi and BMW and such pay attention to the brand logo first and everything else second.
>>27629672Yeah you're right. Cadillac should make a heavy luxury e-ray too
>>27629857that's why it's Lincoln
>>27629864Oh hey they already made a concept. They can call it the Cien
>>27629864unironically. just make sure it doesn't suck this time
>>27629879Aside from the unreliable top mechanism, what was wrong with it?
>>27629672What’s more of a travesty>EV mustang abomination >4cyl eco boost mustang Ford, sort your shit out, I implore you!
>>27629971The turbo mustang is awesome. V6s always had a negative connotation since the dawn of time. But turbos are cool and appeal to younger buyers who can't afford the extra 11k on a gt.
>>27629756I love it
>>27629672Looks cool>>27629971Eco boost Mustang is fine, EV Mustang is sgusting.
>>27629813ive seen this idea of reviving the probe badge for the ecopoor versions thrown around here.
>>27629683Yeah, they should bring the classic Mustang related names and put them together.
>>27629672Whenever I cuntsider the LC500 or other lux moderate-performance coopays, I always end up cheaping out and being like eh, why not a Mustang GayTea, it's good enuff
>>27629989>V6s always had a negative connotation since the dawn of timeobjectively untrueford v6s are the sole reason why there is a stigmaeveryone else makes art
>>27630332Stang is going to depreciate, LC will depend on how much you drive it. You could recover a lot of what you paid if you're willing to tie the added money up on the first place, and the inside will be a hell of a lot nicer
>>27630338>everyone else makes artWrong. That lancia would have been better with a turbo 4 or a V8 and everyone knows it. It sounds like raspy ass, one of the worst sounding race cars. V6s suck, they sound like shit almost universally, only maybe one or two in the history of cars have sounded decent.
>>27630422Raspy engines are an Italian tradition, rumbly engines are an anglo/germanic thing
>>27630422https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2OlsCu1tfccopeV6 is THE rally car sound
>>27630446>implying your only two choices are rasp and rumblenoThe best sounding italian cars are ones where they killed the rasp despite the loudness. Examples: Zondas, Murcielagos, F12s.
>>27630466Debatable. Sounds like crap unless all you can hear is the intake. Rally cars do not have to sound like crap.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic4AYGKqn1c
>>27630317All cars should be named after dangerous animals or natural disasters.
>>27630144I liked Probes; but it was a terrible name. The swoopy streamlined styling could make a comeback but I'd rather they call it a Falcon, that used to be their baby Mustang back in the 60s.
>>27629672Lincoln has done three concepts of exactly that, which tells me it's something they want to do, but Ford has always shot it down in the end. I'm curious how long the brand has. Lincoln is incredibly starved of any new products at all.
>>27630835i like probes and thats why id rather they just leave the name alone especially if it would be attached to another generic nucar probably without pop ups.
i just want a V8 Mustang sedan. I'm sure it would sell gangbusters in this increasingly 1-car-does-all world
>>27629857That's just true of pretty much everyone who buys cars, honestly.>Poor people buy American bcuz "mi nino knows how to work on them">Middle-class people buy Japanese because cars are appliances to them and they don't want to look showy nor do they want to have do any preventative maitenence whatsoever>New money buys German for the status symbol aspect of it, oftentimes getting lower-trim models and debadging them>Old money buys everything else that's rare to stuff it in a garage and flip it someday (after they're dead) because the only real hobby they have is money
>>27630871They should definitely do that second concept.Honestly I think it's a secret race between American and Australia to create the first supercar El Camino/Ute.
>>27629672https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_MK9They made a couple concept cars 20 years back. The problem is that you're going need a longer wheelbase for a luxury mustang because you need a comfortable back seat
>>27630466it's still shit compared to any V8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0yiRilcKMEeither way, sound doesn't matter. V6s will always be seen as the poorfag engine option. Even given the choice between a V6 and a turbo 4 that, by some magic of engineering, made the exact same HP/weight/mpgs/etc, the turbo would still be the more popular option because turbos are cool and appeal to young people. They like the pops and bangs and crackles and whistling. No one aspires to own a V6. At least not a NA one anyway. There are fans of cars like the GTR and GT, but 1 those cars are twin turboed and 2 they're still seen as cars that would be better with different engines, i6 and V8 respectively.
>>27629756That render looks like an Aston DB11 or DB12 had a Mustang front end grafted on it but with a thunderbird logo. It's lazy but looks decent.
>>27629883They put a Northstar V8 in it instead of an LS. The Northstar had a habit of killing its head gaskets due to under-sized head bolts.
>>27629879>>27631011One of the great tragedies.
>>27629707Nobody wants evs though
>>27631672An exciting retro halo truck like the BroncoNot really made for utility, just like the Cybertruck
>>27629826>It's luxury sports buyers who would otherwise buy a Cadillac or an Audi or something.Luxury Coupes as a concept have come and gone already. There's now a significant market gap in terms of what people who want sports cars want (2 door coupe that goes very fast) and what people who want luxury cars want (4-door saloon or SUV with all the bits and bobs and excellent ride quality) that the two concepts are basically impossible to marry.
>>27631011That's true of the older transverse Northstars. By the time they started putting Northstars in longitudinal cars (the XLR, STS, and 1st gen SRX with the LH2 and LC3) they had massaged them to suck a lot less, they don't really have head issues at all versus the transverse ones which had a near 100% failure rate. The real problem with the XLR now is that XLR-specific parts are becoming unobtainium. Used head lights and tail lights are over $1k each, for example.
>>27634019I think you could do it as a trim level for the Mustang. Call it a Thunderbird and just change the body work a little and give it a fancy interior.
>>27629672Chevy did it with the Berlinetta
>>27634387Forgot pic
>>27629672sorry but that market is already oversaturated by the brands you just mention and the people looking for new german "luxury" coupes are not even gonna glance at an american car even if it's better in every single aspect
>>27629672>Ford Motor Company>LuxuryPick one.
>>27634019>>27634065My hope would be that it compares to stuff like the Audi S5 and Lexus RCThat's why I suggest it be a LincolnI am in the market for such a car, but would never consider a Mustang
>>27634818Last time they sold a Thunderbird they just badged it as a Thunderbird. I don't think it said Ford anywhere on the body.
