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READ THE WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server

>NAS Case Guide. Feel free to add to it:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server/Case_guide

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
RouterOS's: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server#Custom
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.labgopher.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
List of ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ & https://diskprices.com/

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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first for "post rack"
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>>100090361
nice rack bro
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this made me hard
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>>100090361
Second for "post a corner of a rack"
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>>100090464
post the other corners
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>>100090361
Praise the Omnissiah
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>>100090479
What am I, a whore you've found on /r/ or /soc/?
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>>100090479
The last image of a corner, for now.
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>>100090562
get yourself some rackstuds
bitches love rackstuds
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>>100090361
>blue board
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>>100090685
it's ok, I cropped out all the lewd anime stickers at the top and on the chassis lids
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Reposting because it didn't get any replies in the last thread.

Has anyone here done any dabbling with P4 architecture/networking? I found out about it the other day but all the resources I've found have been pretty vague.
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>>100090335
I really need your help, /hsg/

Something really exceptionally abnormal happened with multiple computers' ethernet ports on my network recently

A prebuild from 2019, and a custom build from 4 months ago BOTH have ethernet ports that spontaneously stopped working.

It happened around the time I switched internet providers - suspiciously, after things got really confrontational with the Indian technical support rep.

Both computers have been connected to the same, managed netgear switch. The 2019 computer's ethernet port just stopped blinking and doesn't turn on. My 2023 build's port LEDs are still working. Both can get internet over ETH --> USB adapters.

What the hell could have caused this? All the cables are new, and everything was working fine prior to switching ISPs...

Sure, the modem is different than before, but this literally feels like voodoo
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Post /hsg/ uptimes
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>>100090335
I got some internet cable looks perfectly fine while dumpster diving? Should I keep it? Why did people throw them away?
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>>100090802
any of:
>static IP set in a different IP address range
>both allocated the same IP
>DHCP server not operational
>LAN QoS blocking the connections
>auto-negotiation is off and the speeds of each port are different
>auto-negotiation is on but not functioning correctly
>drivers out of date
>freak accident killed all devices connected to the previous router
>cables are damaged
>ports are just turned off on the switch/router
it is very unlikely that your ISP resident pajeet somehow managed to kill your devices' ports, as in, you'd be more likely to have all computers on your network spontaniously explode kinda unlikely. it's nit something that is realitically feasable for them to do. either there is an issue with your network configuration or there is a coincidental hardware fault.

in any case there isn't much else i can do to help because you've just typed an entire essay of which the only relevant information was
>two PCs ethernet ports don't seem to work
>i replaced my modem/router recently
I would try
>checking your IP address settings on the computers
>deleting the NIC from device manager and rebooting
>using a different cable
>checking the DHCP settings on the router
in that order

>>100090821
>internet cable
ethernet cables cost almost literally nothing, don't bother
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>>100090811
>being proud of this
congrats on being a part of a botnet due to
https://www.fortiguard.com/psirt/FG-IR-24-015
also i'm not sure why you're blacking out that info, no one gives a fuck
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>>100090930
thanks anon, I will give these suggestions a shot
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>>100089644
looks like i've got my answer, four at minimum and the rest are redundant
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>>100090434
are these good? can i finally cluster with pcie cheaply?
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>>100090802

Presuming you're using windows, make sure the NICs aren't disabled in the device manager.
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>>100091510
>cheaply
nah, these are $957.41 right now
in australia only for some reason
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>>100090821
When you're in a certain trade, you end up surrounded by materials and excess of product related to that trade. It looks like a lot or even wasteful to anyone outside but they have a shit ton more than we'll ever bother with.
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>>100091610
well i mean... cheaply for ME, not for thee...?
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>run SSH on a high (five-digit) port - and no, not 22222
>chinks still find it and bang on the door
I knew everything on TCP 22 would be found within minutes, I knew they were scanning all of IPv4, but I didn't think they were scanning all ports on all of IPv4. There's no risk of them getting in I just didn't think they'd actually find it.
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>>100091940
The original pic is a T755
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>>100092108
oops. damn.
guess I'll check again in 5 years when they get retired
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what are your thoughts on the rackmount Synology NAS offerings? For home/personal use.

Essentially I want the DS423 but rackmounted to save space. Don't care about budget.

inb4
>build your own
I dont have the time and I like what synology software offers.
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>>100091940
>hp
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>>100090821
technicians who setup residential internet connections are usually given a cable length quota for every customer, like up to 100 feet free cable included for a new subscription, at least on paper

irl nobody checks and nobody cares, someone probably only used 3 feet, threw out the rest, marked it as "yes i used it all" on paper, and went on to get lunch or coffee instead of carrying the whole roll back to his car
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anybody with proliant use greenlake services like com?
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looking to sell my old server, just listed it on facebook for $800 aussie dollars, i'm expecting to be lowballed for $600-700
it's a poweredge T420 with twin 2650 v2, 8gb of ram and 28TB of SAS drives (4tb drives i have no use for)
does that seem fair? what would you guys pay for it?
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recommend me a rackmounted network switch/hub with all/most of the ports at the back, and as little rack height as possible.
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>>100092745
any 1u mikrotik switch installed backwards
but like, why? just use a patch/brush panel and feeding them back into the rack. having all the ports on the back is just asking for the most annoying rack maintenance possible
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>>100092725
>what would you guys pay for it?
400
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looking to build a NAS to replace my shitty synology. two questions: UNRAID or TrueNAS Scale, and what are the cheapest reliable drives I can get around 20tb of storage without spending an arm and a leg to get? Looking to spend no more than 600$ total, drives are just the last thing I need.
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someone give me unlimited space on the internet to make my own webpage with unlimited space so I can exist on the Internet
fuck facebook
fuck any other co
I want to post mature contend on my own webpage. this how a real internet should be
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~300w near-idles (it's just seeding), average tarrif here is $0.33/kwh, total of ~$70/month, $850 annually
I think the router only draws like 20w
good thing I'm on solar/hydro. hope the next fucker to own this is, too
>>100092899
that's what my old man said, too. I feel like the drives make it worth a bit more, but granted they are old drives and will probably die in the next 2-3 years
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>>100093833
yup, you shoukd hear this thing, too. even at minimum fan speed (you cannot turn them off) it is louder than even my industrial pedestal fan at max speed. I have a serial cable attached sending the "set fan speed to 20%" command twice a second, or else it ramps back up.
i think this is pulling 200w alone
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ok hsg I have some questions for a better setup for my htpc/server.

right now I have a little win11 Intel box setup for qbit/plex server/file storage and moonlight gaming on the tv off my PC.

I want off the windows ride and into linux for it, what's the best Linux for this type of thing (I only have minimal experience with fedora) and filesystem. it has 2x 8tb drives and a 4tb drive for storage I want to turn into a single jbod, but both 8tb drives are half full and the 4tb mostly empty so I am gonna have to be shuffling data around and adding discs to the pool one by one if that's even possible. What's the best and simplest way to get this up and running with no data loss.
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>>100090335
is jellyfin able to run inside a windows VM or should i install direct it in proxmox?
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>>100093915
it doesn't have a windows version IIRC, you can just run an ubuntu or whatever VM and do it like that, in fact that's how almost literally everyone else does it. in the linux VM you can either use docker (easy) or do it manually

you shouldn't run anything on your hypervisor except VMs
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>>100092725
you would be better off selling server + drives separately
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>>100092725
I wouldn’t pay anything for it. It’s garbage.
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>>100090361
>>100090464
>>100090554
>>100090562
It's a fucking Art! TY anon
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are there any modern and cheapish home servers like the proliant microservers nowadays?
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>>100094830
There's some embedded Intel Q670E platform (13th/12th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7/i5/i3/Pentium/Celeron Processor (LGA-1700)) hardware with IPMI available, but no support for Xeon processors listed. 4x 3.5" hotswap bays.
Seems to be priced around $730 USD.

Is there any reason should I snitch what this hardware is named?
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>>100092725
>>100094715
I wouldn't take anything older than Skylake / first gen scalable for free
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>>100094899
we are your friends and we deserve to know
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>>100095086
Supermicro SYS-521AD-TN2. I haven't used one, so I can't vouch for it.
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/iot/mini-tower/sys-521ad-tn2
35 cm (W) Ă— 31.5 cm (W) Ă— 41 cm (D) in metric units.

Personally I would probably buy something different, not a fan of Supermicro's IPMI or the Q670E platform.
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>>100095121
>35 cm (H) Ă— 31.5 cm (W) Ă— 41 cm (D)
FTFY (me)
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>>100094830
I have little in the way of constructive advice, but am in pretty much the same position; looking for a low-power NAS solution in Australia.
It feels like the options are:
>used enterprise gear, which will take up a ton of space and triple your power bill
>ARM platforms might be power efficient but have limited processing overhead for actually serving any content, zero expansion capacity, and no guarantee for longer-term software/security support
>hardware from China means dealing with low QC and no warranty, plus they're probably using a JMB585 chip or some bullshit anyway; though, even expensive Synology/QNAP products are built so cheaply they can't be bothered to wire up all the storage headers to the CPU either
>And even if you are willing to build something yourself, no one stocks server motherboards and searching on ebay for names like "asrock rack" or "supermicro" brings up zero results
Closest thing I've found to a half-decent solution is that Qotom thing on Aliexpress with the Atom CPU and mini-SAS connector (which you could hook up to an external HDD enclosure) but even that would probably draw more power than I'm comfortable with.
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>>100095183
i've read that some various nas brands (qnap, terramaster, asustor) allows for installing truenas (or proxmox?) on them, and thus making them reasonably silent and compact. and they have many options with 2, 4 or more drive bays. haven't tried this though
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>>100095405
Brands like qnap are basically prebuilt PC's in a nas form factor I actually quick like the design of their devices, you would be mad to use qnap's own software though, given their recent history.

>>100095183
NSA is blackholing your searches. Also there must be more to your needs than low power, it's hard to suggest things with just that in mind.
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>>100092725
>$800 for a DDR3 system
Lol, aussies
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I hate having a VPN public facing
I see all the crawlers on the internet try to hit it
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Anyone has any strong opinions between Ampache VS Navidrome?
I need to pick one.
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>>100095748
Isn't that the purpose of a VPN though? To be public facing?
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>>100095845
Yes, its better than exposing the services directly.
But I see my firewall catch shit trying to compromise it, which I mean its caught but doesn't make me any less paranoid.
Makes me miss when I had an SRX and Mag I could just pretend like it wasn't happening
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>>100095836
for me, it's plexamp :)

but navidrome is the better of those two
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>>100095748
wireguard doesn't have this problem
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>>100095894
>wiregaurd isn't public facing
tell me then, how do you connect to it?
>>100095866
this is a bit like being scared that someone is banging on your door. They are banging because they can't get it. Be scared when they stop.
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>>100095894
Your firewall just isn't good enough to catch it
Snort only does so much
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>>100095907
You have to have an open port but when you portscan it won't appear open
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>>100095907
>>100095909
I mean that wireguard peers don't respond at all unless you have the correct key
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>>100095882
Plex is not open-source, so that's a non-starter for me.
But I guess I'll go with Navidrome.
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>>100095943
>>100095974
Interesting. And other VPN servers do?
I thought it was standard for VPN servers to not respond at all.
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>>100095974
Neat
>>100096006
Well Global Protect, has a public facing portal, and a separate gateway that is used to initiate connection
Kind of a similar deal for Pulse Secure and I assume other VPNs
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>>100095943
>>100095974
sure, but this won't stop anon's firewall from detecting a portscan or other similar activity, which is what he was worrying about - knowing he has a public-facing service while seeing logs of people try to contact him
>>100096017
most VPNs that are commonly used these days do not respond unless the correct key is given.
the two you mentioned are pretty obscure, one already reaching EoL from a quick google and the other apparently has less than 10k users
Almost everyone will be using some form of OpenVPN or Wiregaurd, both of which are silent listening protocols.
I don't really understand why you'd need to make this comment considering the only VPNs that aren't silent are old or obscure ones noone seriously uses anyway. you might as well tell anon not to use IPSec because SHA1 isn't secure anymore
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>>100089841

Sure, what's your <300$ Open source router solution then?
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>>100096106
Its just what I have experience with so what I can speak to, also there is a difference between replying to say a ping or a portscan vs trying to actually build a tunnel to a client.
>the other apparently has less than 10k users
Funny anon, a single PA FW can do like 30k connections at once(very much on the high end and I can't imagine the costs).
I think this is a homelab scale thing vs enterprise anon, I like my enterprise larping.
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>>100096106
I didn't know openvpn was silent. I guess that's likely possible with modern TLS handshakes.
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>>100095836
You can't browse navidrome by folders, it's really really annoying. I've found with very large music libraries it chokes. I see plexamp get shilled a lot but I always get the feeling it's shilled by people who already had a plex pass and don't actually know anything about the range of different music servers. Personally I used air-sonic advanced since it can handle massive libraries and allows folder browsing.
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>>100096348
>I see plexamp get shilled a lot but I always get the feeling it's shilled by people who already had a plex pass and don't actually know anything about the range of different music servers.
plexamp shill here, you're half right, but i bought the pass specifically for plexamp. I was a google music user prior, R.I.P.

I have tried navidrome and airsonic, as well as finamp/jellyamp for jellyfin. They are all perfectly functional and if I was more anti-plex (it's heading that way though) I'd definately be using navidrome as to me it was the best of the ones i've tried, mostly due to the UX of navigating stuff. I don't need a folder view because I manually tag and organise (using nusicbee, god bless) every track so it has the correct metadata scrapped, but I can see the preference for it.
but I do seriously beleive plexamp is the best, it's the most polished, is the most responsive with large libraries (i have over 1,000,000 songs, almost all of which are lossless) and has the most features. The sonic analysis plex does is pretty much the main selling point for me, being able to press a button and have a playlist of songs that fit the same mood, or sound the same, or have similar lyrics, is just too good to pass up IMO, picrel
It's not without downsides though, aside from the obvious propritary stuff, theres real issues with it. you can't download more than 24 hours of a single playlist, and the plex devs refuse to budge on this, "that's not how we use it so that's not how you should use it". it also has issues downloading those 24 hours anyway.

I don't often reccomend plexamp, at least not unless I also reccomend navidrome or finamp (jellyamp is the worse of the two JF clients) in the same breath. It's hard to reccomend it because of the price and the issues, but I still think, personally, it's the best one. But i respect not everyone can agree.

tl;dr plexamp is the best music streamer, but use navidrome because it's free and respects you as a user
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>>100096106
>stop anon's firewall from detecting a portscan
Hosting 0 services you're going to get portscans so IDK what difference having wireguard makes
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>>100096663
thats exactly what i just said, thanks
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>>100095642
Energy efficiency has become increasingly important here because our electricity prices just went through the roof recently. Other than that I guess I'm looking for the best balance of these:
>high capacity
>added redundancy for read speed + some protection against corruption
>silent operation
>for as cheap as possible
I know it's technically an option to just buy a bunch of external drives and periodically validate/back up to them. Or rather, the complexities associated with networked storage are what's creating some of these issues- and it's the countermeasures that then push up the cost exponentially (ECC memory for bitflips, extra drives for parity in case one dies, etc.) which feel necessary regardless of how rarely those things happen.
I do definitely value the convenience of having stuff available immediately though, and I can't quite pinpoint the amount I need in that category.
eg. 4x 4TB SSDs would be silent, and RAID5 gives some redundancy, but that's only ~11TB of usable space (which would also cost like 1500 AUD).

>NSA is blackholing your searches.
Sorry, I did oversimplify earlier: You do get a small handful of results, but of the two mobos I can see in your snip they're both larger-footprint boards for decade-old CPU platforms, which creates similar issues as buying used server hardware in terms of using relatively more energy idle/under load + taking up more space.

>>100095405
From my research into this those units are a cut above the N5045/N95 NAS units you see all over Aliexpress, but they're more cheaply built than QNAP/Synology products, usage SATA controller chips in lieu of direct-storage access for relatively more drive bays and the ones in my price range categorically do not support ECC even if the CPU itself does (which seems weird).
Anyway, this is meaningless as I'd have to do a bunch more research before feeling comfortable storing anything on a truenas system for all the horror-stories I hear about ZFS.
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>>100092009
Changing the port for services is retarded and inconveniences nobody else but yourself.
Don't do this.
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>>100093849
Ubuntu Server, for drives use either LVM or btrfs since they allow mixing whatever capacities you have.
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>>100096580
>you can't download more than 24 hours of a single playlist
Nice features, but this is a deal breaker for me.
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>>100096922
>btrfs
How does btrfs distribute the files accross heterogeneous drivers?
Say, I have a 12TB and a 4TB drive. How would it work if I joined them?
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>>100096348
>You can't browse navidrome by folders
Fuck! I wanted to do that.
Why would they leave this feature out? Shouldn't be too hard to implement.
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what connection speed do wifi devices have to you guys' home servers
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>>100097328
As good as the AP connecting them
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>>100097357
i think my ap is wifi 6 but im only getting ~600Mbps on iperf to my phone for some reason
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>>100097233
the largest drive must not be larger then all the other drives combined

i think it stores everything in 1gb "buckets" or something under the hood
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>>100097635
But then I will have inconsistent read speeds among different files, right? How do I specify where I want each file to physically land?
Is it per subvolume?
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>>100095882
>>100096348
>>100096580
What do you guys use for listening to Navidrome on Android?
Does it support offline playback?
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>>100097676
assuming you got two disks: 12tb and 4tb, and run raid1
then 4tb is the max available storage in that pool
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>>100097676
btrfs decides where to put files if you add them to the same pool
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>>100097707
RAID 1? I thought we were talking about the btrfs has to join physical disks.
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>>100097719
So the user has no control over the physical location of the files?
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>>100097721
in btrfs you can add them to a "jbod" and get 12+4=16 tb
or "raid1", but then you would only get 4tb effective storage (largest disk must not be larger then the rest combined)

and there are other modes too, but i think these two most used
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>>100097783
Got it, thanks anon.
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>>100097737
btrfs handles and balances it mostly automatically.

are you going for jbod or raid1?
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>>100097818
I guess jbod, as I don't have enough disks to fulfill the 12TB bigger one
But I would need to read a bit into the drawbacks of jbod.
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>>100097837
i think that it might be possible to partition so you get
12tb drive: 4tb in raid1 + 8tb "single"
4tb drive: 4tb in raid1

but i havent tried it, or even know if it actually works
it might something worth investigating
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>>100091512
>>100090930
I'm going with the ethernet port is simply botched. Time to get a usb to eth adapter.
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>>100097931
I'll give it a check later.
Thanks anon.
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bros I'm so sorry but .. after using ubuntu server for a year... I've chosen ubuntu desktop as my new server software.. it'll just make troubleshooting shit easier for me... I know.. I'm sorry
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>>100097549
What speed do you get wired? Are you using 5Ghz ?
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>>100096756
>Anyway, this is meaningless as I'd have to do a bunch more research before feeling comfortable storing anything on a truenas system for all the horror-stories I hear about ZFS.
>horror stories?

Such as?

ZFS requires some degree of preplanning because you can't trivially manipulate pools to add one disk at a time, but beyond that it just works.
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ITT: zfs cult vs btrfs freethinkers

(tee hee hee)
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>>100101249
I want to use BTRFS but ZFS is much more stable from what I've read. Sorry bros
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I'm starting to outgrow my Raspberry Pi just like you all said I would bros...
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>>100101346
At least you got some use out of it. I'm still using mine as a NAS and many other things.
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What's a good UPS for say, 2 servers with dual 750w, 1 server with dual 1K W, miscellaneous wattage of an additional 1K so about 4K W? I'm a retard when it comes to power, any job I've had where I do thing in a datacenter I just plug stuff in alternate PDUs corresponding to gigantic UPSs. At home I'm not sure what to do.
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>>100102332
>1K W
>4K W
Sorry for being a sperg about it, but It's 1kW and 4kW.
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>>100102332
https://www.apc.com/nz/en/product/SRT6KRMXLI/apc-smartups-online-6kva-6kw-rackmount-4u-230v-6x-c13+4x-c19-iec-outlets-network-card+smartslot-extended-runtime-w-rail-kit/
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>>100102615

https://www.apc.com/shop/gr/en/products/APC-Smart-UPS-On-Line-8kVA-8kW-Rackmount-6U-230V-3-1-and-1-1-6x-C13-4x-C19-IEC-outlets-Network-Card-SmartSlot-Extended-runtime-W-rail-kit/P-SRT8KRMXLI
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I have an old build running zorin os working as a simple nas using samba, but from one day to another the read performance went to the ground. my only guess is it has something to do with the drives being encrypted with luks because on the one drive that is not encrypted the performance is normal. I have no clue what could it be since just yesterday it was working just fine, any idea?
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>>100102711
Try to update the kernel or revert to an older one and see what happens
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>>100102638
>>100102654
Jesus nearly $3 killadollars, should mention this is for my homelab not an SMB
>>100102615
sperg away fren, I appreciate you
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Has anyone experience with file storage clusters ?

I'm thinking of stuff like git-annex, garage (deuxfleur), seaweed, etc, with the possibility to add random disks to a cluster for making a big blob storage with redundancy.
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>>100102791
yea once you're over the regular normie wattage mark they stop being cheapo
try to see if there are businesses throwing them away in your area and maybe you could swap the used up battery for a less used up one, or not

or you would be better off with a backup NAS made from a low-end pc + a bunch of drives + a $50 UPS from ebay, which you can sync critical data to like once a week
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>>100102965
>or you would be better off with a backup NAS made from a low-end pc + a bunch of drives + a $50 UPS from ebay, which you can sync critical data to like once a week
***this is for the
>i dont wanna lose my data
scenario. if you want to prepare for 'brownouts and blackouts' scenario then get a massive UPS ofcourse
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If I wanted to keep a server that stores forbidden books, essays, research, art, audio, etc. "indefinitely", what would you recommend? Would also allow me to remote in and view its contents from devices in a small LAN. Possibly some "kill-switch" that uploads it to the internet or another server if it was ever compromised too.
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>>100103109
>Possibly some "kill-switch" that uploads it to the internet or another server if it was ever compromised too.
Uploads what exactly to the internet? Whole content?
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>>100103180
>Uploads what exactly to the internet? Whole content?
Yeah, that or another back-up server in a different location. Probably infeasible to do in an instant because of the sheer amount of content, right?
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>>100103197
>Probably infeasible to do in an instant because of the sheer amount of content, right?
Probably yes.
A solution for this would be total encryption and just wipe the LUKS header if several failed logins occurred.
Concerning the back-up part, you could regularly set up a daily backup job to sync all data to some VPS you already own, so if the main gets nuked you still got that backup you made.
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>2TB laptop drives have the same price as 6 years ago
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>>100092009
Why do you have SSH exposed to the world anyway? The only port I have exposed is wireguard and my qBT ports.
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is tis good
https://www.amazon.ca/Synology-DS120j-DiskStation-Diskless-512MB/dp/B07ZKSLVT5
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>>100090335
>Alien edition
my room is currently a fucking alien mess so here is a capture.
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>>100103780
>VPN breaks
>can't SSH into the server to fix it
Have you ever heard about email? It is exposed to the world, yet billions of people use it every day.
You do, too. Explain.
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https://www.newegg.com/asus-pro-ws-x570-ace/p/N82E16813119194?Item=9SIAWKTK6A3861

Is the U.2 port and the sata ports for this board running on the same chipset/controller? I know the U.2 is, but im unsure as to what' managing the sata ports and if it's the same controller.
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>>100103660
smaller drives don't get cheaper because they are already at a fixed minimum cost. the aluminium and neodimium costs x amount of dollars and that won't ever change, plus the processing etc etc and every distributors fee, you literally cannot make them any cheaper
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I got a good chunk of money that I want to upgrade my server with

How does a pedestrian like me get some of the newer Intel Xeon chips like Sapphire Rapids?

What are some core differences between Sapphire Rapids-SP and Sapphire Rapids-WS for a 24/7 server that will be primarily compiling big C++ projects, video encoding/decoding, Software-RAID, and non-AI GPU workloads?

I'm kind of interested in the accelerators like QAT and DSA and such, has anyone interfaced with some of these QAT accelerators? I hear it can help a lot with compression and checksums and hashing and stuff
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>>100104351
disgusting webm. no one answer this nasty ass nigga
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I'm repurposing some Optiplex 7060 micros that I'll be getting for free. Believe they're the i5 model with 130w power supply.

Plan is to stuff them with 64gb memory and a 2tb nvme, then install proxmox, maybe a cluster if I feel like fiddling with that.

Thoughts? Might just install some linux VMs for pihole and wireguard.
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>>100104560
how does the rest of the network look like, what router and so on?
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>>100104803
Using an Omada EAP for wifi and just using the ISP router/firewall. Currently have an ancient 3rd gen fat optiplex running pihole, wireguard, and PRTG

Media center pc in my living room doubles as a media server with SMB shares
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You don't need more. Well ok, maybe actual sata ports would be nice, but my storage is spinning rust, so it doesn't even matter.
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>>100104260
I ask because I'm curious about the viability of using an sff-8643 to 4x sata cable to combine 4 new sata ports with the other 4 sata ports on the mobo to create an 8 disk zpool.
Yes, the nice beefy x8 4.0 slots will be put to good use, I'm just curious if this particular use case would be limited by a hypothetical scenario where the sata ports are controlled by the cpu bus lanes instead of the chipset - requiring intercommunication between the two parts of the motherboard to run the pool-I want to avoid that.
Any thoughts /hsg/?
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>>100105455
in theory yes, there will be higher latency on the disks through the AIC but in practise your HDD and general system I/O delay will be high enough already that you won't notice it unless you do very scientific testing. the entire array should be waiting on the slowest disk anyway so it's not like the "faster" CPU controlled ones will get out of sync or anything
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>>100097692
Symphonium is excellent. Tempo is also excellent, and literally just one step below symphonium (in my personal opinion) but is free and open source while symphonium isn't.
Both just work though.
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>>100104468
Please respond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What OS are you guys running? I'm literally using Manjaro on my server because it started as an HTPC and I think it's finally coming to be time to switch.
Is Debian a good call? I really just use docker containers these days so I don't think it even matters much in the end.
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>>100090811
>>100091068
Facts. And on a fucking firewall of all things, I'd bet my lunch it's their edge firewall too.
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ok, whats a good server platform to start looking for? I want to upgrade from using my old gaming system (2nd gen ryzen), but without jumping up to epyc or whatever. Just want a decent server board (IPMI, plenty of full-size PCIe slots) without spending a small fortune or going back to like x99/c612
I mostly run VMs, but I'm looking at doing more AI stuff so RAM is important as well as cores
what gen should I start looking at? what do you guys run?
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>>100104260
rtfm, boards do random shit all the time.
Besides, U.2 is a 3.0 pcie standard, it would be sharing the m.2 slot next to it if anything.

>>100105455
>sff-8643 to 4x sata cable
Oh, no you probably can't do that. The breakout cables still need a sata controller at the base if they're being used for that purpose. Otherwise HBA cards would've been as small as some of the bifurication passthrough cards.
But aside from directly attached riser cables or cards, sff-8643 to u.2 are probably among the cheapest cables.
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>>100093337
Do it yourself you fucking faggot, if you're asking this you don't know what you're doing
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>>100106116
idk, you could try a used threadripper combo like this where the motherboard is full atx and has nice i/o like 10gb nic

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305325861953
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>>100106116
btw the reason I ask is because if I just like search for "server motherboard" or "ipmi motherboard" i pretty much only get x99 boards or epyc boards from chinks and supermicro respectively, so like I wanna know what's after x99 but before epyc?
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>>100106231
really whats the difference between TR and epyc? That's a good price, but it's a US listing and in AU I can find epyc bundles for around the same price
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>>100106139
>The breakout cables still need a sata controller at the base if they're being used for that purpose. Otherwise HBA cards would've been as small as some of the bifurication passthrough cards.
Damn okay, that makes sense. So it's just for an actual u.2 drive and I can't split it.
>>100105637
>in theory yes
thoughts on the above?
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>>100106433
>thoughts on the above?
what controller are you connecting the SFF cable to? the other anon is right, you need a sata controller to use sata drives, I just meant yes there will be more latency between CPU controlled drives and AIC controlled drives
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>>100095845
Not necessarily, that's the primary way that they are used them though. A VPN is exactly and specifically what it says it is, it's a virtual and private network. Their entire purpose is for securely communicating over an untrusted network. It doesn't necessarily need to be the internet and you don't necessarily need to use it to access some other network. An example of a usecase for a VPN that's not accessing LAN from WAN would be for setting up a management network, add a virtual interfaces on all your servers and route then together. Boom, fully secure management traffic on an untrusted network.
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>>100095183
>Qotom thing on Aliexpress with the Atom CPU and mini-SAS connector
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006030794589.html
This thing?

If you're worried about power consumption but still want relatively convenient storage availability, correct me if I'm wrong as I might be retarded, but couldn't you get 1-2 cheap refurb SFF pcs and stuff them with 3.5" drives, connect them directly to this as basically a NAS subnet (?SAN) and then power them on only when needed for backing up or reading rarely-used data?
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>>100098441
... Do you just need a GUI? You know you can just install a GUI right?
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>>100102332
Don't be an idiot, you shouldn't spec your UPS by the rating on your power supplies. Spend $30 bucks and take an actual load measurement with all of your stuff booting at once, then do the same when all servers are fully loaded. Add 15% to the higher of the two figures and buy one in that range.
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>>100102911
Ceph if you have budget for a number of nodes large enough to get acceptable performance
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>>100106460
In my case I suppose there isn't a controller, given it would just be the native u.2 port on the mobo. I assumed because it has the same interface form factor as an sff-8643. I just bought an HBA and 2 breakout cables for another application and noticed the similarities.
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>>100106750
check the motherboards block diagram. that u.2 port is probably not connected to the motherboard's sata controller.
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>>100103109
Use a storage system that has checksumming so that it ensures the data stays intact. Also no one is going to just give you free storage, setup a system at a relatives house or smthn and sync the data over the internet.
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>>100105662
Containers use the host kernel so your host system is more important than on a VM host for instance.

Debian is almost always a good call, I've not run into a server scenario where I needed anything else. Just run KVM VMs if you do need VMs. Dead simple and you can manage it from a laptop with virt-manager.
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>>100106346
TR is intended for workstations. Epyc is for servers.

Epic will tend to have more cores and an ass load more PCIe lanes.
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>>100106768
It's not, just enough pcie bandwidth to run 4 sata devices fine...but it has no controller.
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What's the best, most stable wifi AP that runs WiFi 6 on openwrt? Router is fine too, I will just use it as AP only. Also, is there any enterprise tier gear you recommend for an AP that is as secure or more secure for WiFi as openwrt is capable of being? Needs to be able to get security updates and such long term, also needs to be fast, wifi 6 or greater. Also I may use vlans and multiple networks so should support that, and just be highly configurable in general.
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>>100101249
I just use btrfs+snapraid+mergerfs to still have capacity. Most of what I'm storing is not super important.
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>>100107015
>WiFi 6 on openwrt

wasnt openwrt+wifi6 just trash?
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>>100106850
Interesting to know thank you anon.
Debian it is then.
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whats the catch?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256445511823
seems like these are usually $1000+ AUD, why is this so much cheaper?
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>>100107293
because it's like a decade old
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285816694150
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>>100107366
sure, but every other listing of that board is $1000+, why is this one and only this one so significantly cheaper?
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Has anyone tried Intel arc GPUs with Jellyfin yet?
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>>100107389
no idea, from what i remember these boards were always in the few hundreds range in the post-Ryzen era
sure before Ryzen there were stupid expensive, but nowadays not really
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>>100101468
That's nice anon! I thought about doing that but found out that my external HDDs need external power cause the little pi can't do it.
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I apologize if this has been asked before but I'm relatively new to home servers. I was thinking of installing either Open Media Vault as my base OS or Ubuntu Server. Ultimately I just want something rock steady, widely-supported, easy-to-use for noobs like me. More importantly, I'd like to install Docker and Portainer with ease, and both OMV and Ubuntu Server allow this.
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>>100107521
weird. anyway, that gigabyte board looks great, thanks for that! I was tossing up that supermicro or an older asus workstation one, but this is like 1/3rd the price and much nicer
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>>100107566
i'd use debian over ubuntu server. ubuntu server has a lot of issues out of the box and no-one seems to be able to agree on how ro solve them. Try xhanging DNS server, and you'll find five different ways to do it and nome of them will work. It's just kinda shitty and now ubuntu is full of snaps and shit it is just a mess

either way if you're just doing docker it really doesn't matter what you use, as docker-compose makes docker stuff so trivial a monkey with fetal alcohol syndrome could do it
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>>100107611
>either way if you're just doing docker it really doesn't matter what you use, as docker-compose makes docker stuff so trivial a monkey with fetal alcohol syndrome could do it

I really enjoy using docker precisely because It's easiest haha. But yeah, I think I might go with plain old Debian
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>>100107290
For sure, and really though if having an older stable kernel ever gives you any issues, just install a VM that has a more suitable kernel for that container and install the container there.
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>>100107592
you're welcome, good luck

btw those have faulty onboard NIC chip, my bad didnt see it. ipmi works tho

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265841703202
this seems ok
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>>100107401
>Has anyone tried Intel arc GPUs with Jellyfin yet?
Bumping this, I want to know how well that AV1 hardware encoder works
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>>100107854
i don't think that would fit in an e-atx case though, right? certainly those mounting holes look way out of whack
anyway I can get that gigabyte board for about the same price on aliexpress, so I'll do that instead
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>>100106664
umm.. then why is there a distinction between ubuntu server and desktop? Why isnt it called Ubuntu with or without gnome?
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>>100108484
There are multiple distinct distros of ubuntu delineated by their wm.
>t. xubuntu LTS running zfsutils/samba/deluge/grsync/plex
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>>100108484
ubuntu server comes with different default packages but it's still just ubuntu, you can install gnome onto ubuntu server just like you can remove it from ubuntu desktop
realitically you could convert ubuntu into arch if you really wanted to, the entire point of making distro ISOs is so you don't *have* to manually install and tweak every single package you want. but if you want an ubuntu server with a desktop, you are better off installing ubuntu server and adding gnome because of all the other things ubuntu server comes preloaded with and preconfigured for, rather than taking ubuntu desktop and installing and configuring a few dozen packages to make it functional as a server
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>>100106750
>same interface form factor as an sff-8643
It's because someone was a lazy fucker and just started reusing them for u.2, since those and the slim one both have a pcie standard and there's not really a real u.2 motherboard connection aside from a pcie slot. Maybe oculink but that's a tiny mess like usb3, so it tends to be more expensive.

If you really wanted to make an extended mess, you can connect it to a standalone pcie (mining) slot, add power, then connect another hba or whatever. As it's still just pcie 3.0 x4 at the end of the day.
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>>100108642
>It's because someone was a lazy fucker and just started reusing them for u.2, since those and the slim one both have a pcie standard and there's not really a real u.2 motherboard connection aside from a pcie slot.
Gay but understandable. Not a mission critical application anyway, just an idle curiosity.
>If you really wanted to make an extended mess, you can connect it to a standalone pcie (mining) slot, add power, then connect another hba or whatever. As it's still just pcie 3.0 x4 at the end of the day.
That's kind of hilarious, gonna look into that.
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>>100108642
Can't find a standalone pcie slot that isn't connected with a usb cable. None seem to want a cable compatible with U.2, but I could be looking in the wrong place.
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>>100109003
search fir sff 8643 pcie adaptor
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msvws1U
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>>100109106
>>100109003
there are all full x16 ones

but dont tell anyne about these abominations because they should not exist. the chinese make all mannor of cursed adaptors, none should see the light of day
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>>100109124
once you go down this path.... you can never return
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I recycled the parts on my main PC for a new server after I upgraded
Too bad I'm super paranoid about software to run anything more complex than truenas with some containers.
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>>100109136
Oh man this is funny
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>>100109194
hear me out
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>>100109197
This shouldn't exist
It's like a page from the Necronomicon
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>>100103780
For SFTP mainly. It's an easy and straightforward way to get at my files when I'm away, and being able to get a shell is a bonus that comes in the bargain.

>>100104258
well yeah and I have to have it running on the local network anyway precisely so I can administer the machine. Might as well reuse it.
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>>100109197
Top left could be useful for those itx boards but unfortunately most have retarded bioses and you cant boot from it
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>>100109382
almoat all itx boards have built in m.2 slots for the OS, you would just store your games on this one
I can see the idea being keeping all your games on the GPU and then you can put your GPU into any system and have them installed and ready to go
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>>100109448
I was talking about older ones without m2 but sure
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>>100109510
i haven't seen an itx board without m.2 since like 2014 bro
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so, my chassis fans are controlled by the backplane using 4pin PWN, but the backplane didn't come with any sort of cable or whatever to hook up to the motherboard for fan control. but theres an unlabeled i2c connector and a 4pin PWN header labeled "PWN FAN INPUT"
i cannot find any proof of this backplane even existing online (it's a "TopValley 05N42504925032 REV DO YELLOW" if that helps)
so how can I control the fans? is there a way to check if this PWM input does it? supermicro backplanes use i2c but what I don't know is well, where does the i2c come from, eg a fan controller or should the motherboard have a port for it?

feelings kinda stupid atm
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>>100109566
a look at the whole thing
theres 2 backplanes but they are identical, all the fans run off the lower one.
you think i can just hook that PWM inlut to a fan header on my motherboard and control them that way? would a multimeter be able to tell me that? i don't have one on hand
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>>100109521
That is indeed what i meant by older ones yes. Not quite 2014, more like 2016 and even 2017, plenty of Skylake boards without m2. And even if later they had m2, many were wired for sata and had horrible performance. Even the shittiest pcie storage would provide at least 2x sata3 performance to an older board like that but unfortunately as i said, you couldnt boot from it, i tried at the time using various adapters, was mostly interested in the idea of adding dual boot from pcie on the fly and very little about just extra storage for the already installed OS on that particular machine.
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>>100109566
>>100109585
ah fuck, you know what, I can just plug the fans directly into the motherboard
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Anyone here using OpenShift or have experience with it? Is there a reason to use it over Docker or just k8s?
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>>100107869
Not someone that personally did it but the Jellyfin documentation seems to have information on it.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/hardware-acceleration/intel/#arc-gpu-support
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>>100107869
>>100110553
arc drivers on linux are shit, you're better off getting a second hand 6600xt or something
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>>100110687
>AMD for home server
Worst advice ITT probably. They are the worst of the 3 in AI and video encoding
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>>100107531
I only have one 4TB portable drive connected to mine (yes, I keep backups), the only challenge was to find a power supply that is good enough so I don't waste one of the better supplies I have.
Attaching a second USB HDD didn't work, it sucked just too much power. I'm hoping 4TB SSDs get a bit cheaper, so the HDD is relegated to offline monthly backups.
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>>100111534
I'd be scared running too much current through the pi. You're gonna blow a fuse. Better to get a powered usb hub.
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>>100111611
>too much current
If it boots, it slaves away
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>>100110167
Either I'm really bad at searching, or this is entirely a paid product made out of open source tools, with no free option (except for trials I guess). From what I can tell just reading about it a while ago (we're considering multiple approaches for baremetal k8s at work), it looks like it's meant to be a "kubernetes cloud" that's portable across actual cloud/hosting vendors. For example there's "Azure OpenShift" which gives you OpenShift but installed on top of Azure, and that means you're more likely to e.g. use container registry, object storage, etc. built into OpenShift instead of Azure services. It's priced like MS acknowledges you could move your entire workloads between OShift on Azure and e.g. on-prem quicker than if you got into using Azure only equivalents, because for MS it's good if you lock into one vendor (them).
tl;dr looks like a distribution of things companies might want from clouds, so kinda a cloud itself, but packaged as something you install on top of another cloud that provides actual hardware. I'd also be interested to hear if anons actually work with this and possibly knew the reasons to choose OShift.
>>100107015
Xiaomi AX3200 is solid* in my case (router+AP). Nowadays you can root the stock firmware without buying another one to trigger the mesh setup exploit, just do packet replay via Python script somewhere on OpenWrt wiki page. With AX210 card in my laptop it reaches 90 MB/s pretty often. Cheap decent shit.
*to be honest my router occasionally bugs out with NAT hw offload, friends never reported similar issues, and anyway as AP you won't need HW offload.
>>100105662
Another vote for Debian, running it on all my servers, and was about to write very similar answer to the other anon's. Reliable, backports available if needed, unattended-upgrades let you have security patches for the host OS without much effort (just setup mailing to know when they're applied). tho I suggest docker compose v2 from GH rather than v1 from repos.
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>>100108603
>if you want an ubuntu server with a desktop, you are better off installing ubuntu server and adding gnome because of all the other things ubuntu server comes preloaded with and preconfigured for

You know, or just install Debian, which just lets you choose whether or not you want a GUI, for whatever purpose you need.
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>>100090335
I would like to knwo if Its possible to have multiople services on sigleVPS, with the same domain name under different directories. For ezample: my own invidious instance and an onlyoffice server under example.net/invidious and example.net/office. Plus some guide to learn how to configure nginx for this matter.
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>>100110687
Only true on old kernels. If you've got a newer kernel, or are on a distro with the new Arc drivers backported, it works really well.

>>100107869
It works pretty well as long as you are on kernel version 6.2 or have the Intel drivers backported. RHEL / Rocky Linux has the backport, Ubuntu is naturally past that kernel. No idea about the state of Debian though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/11maone/intel_a380_performance_in_jellyfin/
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>>100108484
Like the other guy said, their stated rationale is that they have different initial configurations, but I think that reasoning is weak at best and at worst just makes more work for Canonical to maintain multiple .isos. Big boy OSs don't do that, theyll ship an .iso and let you pick what you want that install to be. In the case of Debian, you can choose from a relatively small number of packages to start and in the case of RHEL they've created a swathe of different initial configurations and will automatically setup a whole lot of different packages(and even do performance tuning for the purpose chosen, afaik). If I ever perceive myself as potentially needing a GUI in the future for that particular server or VM, I'll just go ahead and install Gnome during installation and use this command to disable the GUI entirely until I need it:
 systemd start multi-user.target 


I'll do that it to have the flexibility of having a GUI if I truly need one(not that I ever do) but to also save computational resources and RAM for when I don't need it as the GUI can be started on the fly without rebooting the server, so long as it's installed and configured. All you need to do is this command and it will start the GUI:
 systemd start graphical.target 


Just restart multi-user.target when you're done to save CPU cycles and RAM.

Transition your installs to Debian, you fell for a meme.
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>>100113302
By the way if you want to disable your GUI entirely so it doesn't turn on at boot, you'd simply do this command after initial boot.

 systems enable multi-user.target 


The other commands I mentioned just start and stop those .targets, you can use the above with enable or disable those .targets at boot.
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>>100108484
Different installer, different support, different use case, different size, different platforms.
It amazes me that people still think Linux only runs on amd64 PCs and nothing else.
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Would it be a bad idea to make a server out of an old thinkcentre or Fujitsu. I want it for basic stuff like a nas/media server and maybe light vpn and networking.

Right now I can get one for 100-150€ with an i5 7gen and 8gb ram. They dont have a lot of storage though so I will need to be creative there
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>>100109106
>>100109124
>>100109136
>>100109197
Fuckin killer. I'll let you know if I do anything goofy with this new knowledge.
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>>100105639
That makes my choice easier. Tempo it is then.
Thank you anon.

>>100106499
Good point.
But still, we can agree that VPN servers are secure enough to be public facing, right? As that is the most common use-case.
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>>100109136
What the fuck is this abomination.
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>>100090335
finaly sold my customized gen8 microserver in feb.
made a custom build using a define r5 case to have way more storage room (8*3.5 HDD storage and 2*2.5 SSD for OS)
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Best distro for NAS with Transmission? I want to run it headless, Alpine is not working idkw iwtkmssmifu. Could transmission be leaking memory if my hdds are old and rusty? I don't want to leave Alp but i have no choice. bye dear frend..
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>>100114014
Ubuntu Server, qbittorrent-nox
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>>100114014
I have qbittorrent-nox running fine in Alpine, in an unprivileged container, directly connected to an opnsense vm that tunnels it for me.
But I think transmission was the only one I didn't try, deluge would barf errors with some options when poking around its ssh ui. rtorrent... worked but the syntax was too wonky for me.
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>>100113692
Oh yeah, for sure, that's the only thing port forwarded for a lot of security conscience individuals and businesses. Well implemented VPNs are almost certainly more secure than port forwarding just about any other service.
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>>100113047
you could check out caddy web server
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>>100090335
Ok /hsg/ I need your help:
My old ass optiplex running i7 2600 just croaked (amber blinking light, tried replugging the RAM one by one doesn't work) and im thinking about getting a new setup.
Do I go with a cheaped out NAS with ECC ram and put all services (jellyfin, docker, you name it) on a separate server/cluster? Im thinking about going with something like an old i3 for NAS and a tinyminimicro node to scale it up later. Downsides include probably latency from serving up files since things has to go to the server first unless it's simple file sharing.
Or do I go with a server that acts as a NAS for the time being? In this case im not sure how any tinyminimicro node could easily expand HDD storage without buying a $150 external bay that also rely on USB of all things. Building my own NAS would be costly compared to just buy a thinkcentre/optiplex used.

Final question, what kind of CPU (or I guess CPU gen) that is just enough for: transcoding (HEVC preferred), low power, and running like 20 self hosted docker web services? Virtualization is a plus but I have no need for that atm.
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>>100105662
>>100106850
>>100107611
>>100107634
>>100112154
>>100112791
>>100113302
>Debian
The Debian shill or shills appeared out of nowhere after being gone from /hsg/ for several months. Only two /hsg/ threads ago, >>99969341 explained how Debian patches security issues in several packages months after Ubuntu.
It's easy to forget that Debian is a community maintained distribution, with no single large party (a corporation e.g. Canonical or Red Hat) to back it.

>>100112154 even suggests:
>tho I suggest docker compose v2 from GH rather than v1 from repos.
So you want to break your package management, huh? You could've used Ubuntu instead to install docker-compose-v2 from Ubuntu's universe repos (enabled by default). Better yet, you could've used podman for additional security (but you still lack the orchestration layer). You've made maintaining your system more difficult by using Debian here.

>>100107611 even said:
>ubuntu server has a lot of issues out of the box and no-one seems to be able to agree on how ro solve them.
Such as? Sounds more like a skill issue.
>Try xhanging DNS server, and you'll find five different ways to do it and nome of them will work.
The
/etc/resolv.conf
will tell you, you have to edit systemd-resolved configuration instead. Skill issue.
>It's just kinda shitty and now ubuntu is full of snaps and shit it is just a mess
Oh mate, let me tell you about the container craze people have. For the most part snaps are optional, you likely won't see them in daily server use, and when you do see them, they're beneficial to not break your system (e.g. 32-bit multiarch libs, conflicting lib versions or confining them with AppArmor security policies). Debian meanwhile asks you to break their system (e.g. apt Steam, on desktop), apt-preferences(8) won't help you there.

The above posts by other anons have been a popcon contest instead of basing their support on real world arguments and benefits.
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anyone else here running some hypervisor on undervolted ryzen?
how do you guys deal with the second ccd being so much worse than the first?
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>>100114321
>how do you guys deal with the second ccd being so much worse than the first
I felt with it by buying a Haswell Xeon for less than my ryzen gamer garbage was worth
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>>100115783
it makes no sense for me to buy a whole new board, different ram and cpu when they're all here. with a water cooled block.
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>>100114261
>amber blinking light
what
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If I replace my self-signed certificate on my XMPP VPS with a free Let's Encrypt certificate will it end up in some cert database (like crt.sh)?
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>>100117888
Yes.
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8 sata-connected 12TB disks: raidz2 or raidz3? why?
I chose raidz2 because I get an extra ~10TiB. should I reconsider?
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>>100118140
Fuck, any way to avoid that or is it even a big sec/privacy risk? Also, what happens if I generate a Let's Encrypt cert for some web server in my LAN with no outside routing?

>NONONO YOU CANT USE SELF-SIGNED CERTS AND FINGERPRINT THEM BETTER TRUST SOME CA
I hate modern web(devs) by every cell of my soul.
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>>100118325
*Nevermid, seems you can't generate certs without domain name, does the VPS' "internal" domain count?
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you can make self signed certs and "pin" them to an IP address if you dont have a domain name
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>>100118540
Couldn't care less about domains, but room temp IQ devs won't let me use just plain simple self-signed cert (Monal IM)
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>>100117888
>>100118140
Call me a retard -- because in this case, I am -- but if Lets Encrypt saves a copy of your certificates, wouldn't that give them your private key and thus enable them to decrypt any traffic between your server and its clients?
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>>100119015
No, you give Let's Encrypt (or any CA) a certificate signing request (CSR) which has your public key.
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>>100118325
>any way to avoid that
No. The Certification Authority/Browser Forum (CA/B Forum)'s Baseline Requirements 2.0.4 document (current version) doesn't seem to mandate Certificate Transparency logs, but some browsers may require them.
>is it even a big sec/privacy risk?
It's your task to secure what you place on the Internet publicly.
>what happens if I generate a Let's Encrypt cert for some web server in my LAN with no outside routing?
Either a DNS lookup is made in the domain's authorative name servers for ACME challenge verification, or a HTTP server GET request at Common Name & Subject Alternative Name URLs (the domains) at a
/.well-known/acme-challenge
URL to verify. If either of those fail to contact either the DNS server or the webserver, the certificate won't be issued.
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Having a NAS is nice. Dealing with fixing it's problems is not.
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>>100119686
What's my next step to buy new laptop for NAS?
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>>100119750
is it possible to run truenas on a laptop?
what disks do you use?
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>>100119788
>HP Notebook 15-af010ca
2 of 2TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM.
Currently using USB MicroSD 128GB as boot up.
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>>100118325
>any way to avoid that
Request a wildcard certificate.
So instead of vpn.domain.tld, mail.domain.tld, and so on, you get one *.domain.tld and use it for every subdomain.
The problem with this is that if one service gets compromised then the attacker can impersonate/decrypt any of your subdomains.
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Howdy partners. I'm doing some rhsma training and I just learned how to configure iscsi; it's really cool. It makes me want to try to boot some VMs off of iscsi targets. Has anyone ever done this and would those individuals who have be up to drop a couple tips my way before I get started? Also, is dedicated hardware required if I wanted to transition this knowledge I gain to bare metal?
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>>100120409
rhsma?
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>>100120566
for the pvsm
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>>100120566
Red hat services management and automation, RH385 I believe. It's what the RHCE was back when the RHCE got the reputation for being a good indicator of a skilled technician. Red hat decided that they didn't want to teach every single technician all of these services so they just made RHCE all about their own Ansible platform specifically, essentially new RHCE is an advertisement that lets you get access to the rest of the certs higher up. I have a current surplus of money and value the skills that you could get with the cert and have the hope that old Linux heads hiring managers would recognize that this is what the RHCE used to be so it may get me a better chance to get a job at an old school style Linux shop. Long shot but worth it to me, especially because I want to use a couple of the services offered in my own servers.
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>>100120815
nice, good luck
do they require certain work xp like some websec certs requiring 5+ years ?
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>>100120409
>boot some VMs off of iscsi
Network blip = dead VMs
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>>100120901
This is why you build in redundancy and don't buy garbage.
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>>100116839
The power light on the optiplex is blinking with amber light, can't turn it on at all, something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5k_YaDMpQ
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>>100120883
>>10012081
Thanks man, nah the only prereq needed prior to taking it is RHCSA if I'm not mistaken.

It's also a good thing to do prior to taking the RHCE because if you don't already know it, you learn things that the RHCE expects you to know, to be able to automate but that the course material for the RHCE doesn't teach.

My only issue is that the only publicly available training material for it that isn't first party training for 5k USD is by someone who i firmly believe to be a poor technical writer, they're not particularly clear or articulated about the subjects at all and mix up concepts that someone 15 years junior to them would scoff at. At least up to the point in the book that I'm at. I believe theyre a good tech and can do the work and they're telling me WHAT I need to know but I've been having to consult rhel docs more that I otherwise would like to when using a dedicated learning tool. I'm almost at a point where I'll just stop using it and just self teach using the exam objectives. At least I just get access through my O'Reilly sub.
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Why's every company going for Smell Cock-tiplexes these days?
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>>100121095
Thread relevance?
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>>100121209
Wrong thread, sorry.
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>>100090335
I just got myself a HP Gen8 Microserver, $200 aud.

it came with 2x 2tb wd red pro nas drives, reading 3yrs uptime on crystaldisk, containing some company files, no encryption.

The server itself is missing ram and hangs on memory initialization, I'm going to source some today for $65 2x8 16gb.

tell me anons, did I fuck up?

the server runs code 0168 and 0114 when attempting boot. will the ram fix it?
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>>100121232
theres no right thread, this is a retarded question and you know it
>>100121618
are you saying the server has no ram? no shit it will give you a memory error if theres no memory
RTFM to find what thise error codes mean, noone else will do it for you
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>>100121971
I did rtfm, and what I am saying is, what are the odds I threw $200 in the trash, and +$65 after the ram I purchase for it, obviously it isn't working now.

I am saying, what are the odds it still won't work after the ram is installed. I bought as "untested auction item", the hdds work and everything else seems fine.
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>>100122112
>$65 after the ram
Nigga just get a stick from a friend or neighbour or smth and test it for 3 mins
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>>100122112
and im asking you
is there RAM in the machine AT ALL?
it will not work without RAM, the RAM indicator light will flash telling you theres a problem with the RAM, since it isn't there, and you will get a memory initilization failure because THERE IS NO RAM TO INITIALIZE
>The server itself is missing ram
do you mean it has NO RAM???

and if you did RTFM you'd know what those error codes were and you wouldn't need to ask.
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>>100113111
Thanks for the info. Maybe I will pick up an a310 soon.
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I'm bored. give me a list of some fun containers I might want.
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>>100114130
>>100114075
Thnks I'll try qbit-nox..
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>>100123173
sis, your music server?
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>>100118191
raidz2 100%. Your drives are small enough and few enough in number to make z3 overkill. I wouldn't raidz3 until 10+ drives.
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>>100124247
I actually like plexamp.
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What is a silent cheap UPS for a server with 10th gen intel similar to i7 & a dozen spinning drives
And i mean very silent, what should I look for? Skimming through reviews and sounds awful, all kinds of fan noises beeps coil whines. Would fans even start if I dont have a blackout or battery not charging?
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>>100124796
plexamp is comfy
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i wana make a silent nas using SSDs for my tiny ass apartment and im planning on getting an icy dock bay with 8 2.5" sata slots. how do i connect all those sata drives to my normie mobo? (msi z97, my old server pc is my old 2013 build w an i5 4670k)
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>>100124838
i have two eatons (picrel) and they make zero noise, excepr once every idk, week or so they beep once, whirr a lot for about 15 seconds, i guess to cycle the battery to ensure it doesn't die eaely
other than that, zero noise whatsoever
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>>100125938
and I have a ~300w load on one of them (see >>100093671)
the other literally just runs my phone charger and bedside speakers (i had no other use for it), and yeah, i literally sleep next to it. the noise it makes once a week or whenever is like, the same volume as a microwave humming i guess, for about 10-15 seconds then back to silence.
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How do I not pay for the white label license with invoice ninja
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>>100125957
>noise it makes once a week or whenever
alright thanks gonna look it up
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>>100125030
something like this perhaps
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>>100114276
>The Debian shill or shills appeared out of nowhere after being gone from /hsg/ for several months.
Meanwhile on /r/homelab: https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1c9rcdy/what_is_the_best_linux_os_for_a_server/
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian
>Debian
>Debian.
>Debian
>Debian
>Debian
>Debian.
>Choose one of Debian, RockyLinux/AlmaLinux, Ubuntu LTS
>Debian
>Debian
>Hannah Montana Linux!
>Debian.
>Debian
>Debian.
>Debian
>Spent way more time that I would admit upvoting all the comments saying : debian. But yeah debian all the way my friend.
>Debian headless all the way
>Debian
>Doesn't look like anyone's mentioned it but Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian for the win
>Did anyone recommend Debian yet? They did? Well then... DEBIAN!
>Debian or Rocky
>RHEL or OEL
>Debian or Ubuntu server LTS.
>I like Ubuntu
>Debian
>Debian
>FreeBSD
>Debian, otherwise Rocky/Alma
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian.
>Debian
>Debian
>Debian?
I stopped counting here.
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any porkbun users here? is it true that the smallest you can set ttl on a dns entry is 600 seconds?
im trying to decide between cloudflare and porkbun, and the speed of updating the record might play a part since i might use dynamic dns
cloudflare claims the minimum ttl for non-enterprise is 60s, but you can't set your own nameservers which sucks a bit
porkbun claims minimum ttl of 600s(!), supposedly uses cloudflare under the hood but allows setting a different nameserver

is this correct?
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>>100126790
this looks very simple device probably not a proper raid card
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>>100127081
Probably an HBA
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>>100127061
yup, just tried it by setting a ttl of 1 and it corrects it to 600
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>>100127081
you don't need a raid controller if you're doing software raid, this is a HBA so it uses the om-board sata controller rather than adding one to the AIC
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>>100127430
thanks. i guess i will go with cloudflare then
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>>100126819
>Spent way more time that I would admit upvoting all the comments saying : debian. But yeah debian all the way my friend.

fuck I hate that fucking place
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xcp-ng or proxmox for pfsense/opnsense?
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>>100129450
I have xcp-ng running a pfSense VM with hardware passthrough configured for the NIC and it works pretty well, only real issue is how long xcp-ng takes to boot up so restarting the server means no internet for a couple minutes.
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>>100129450
ESXi with a keygen
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>>100129617
I distrust both kek
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>>100129450
Debian stable
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>>100129805
upvoted! ;^)
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>>100129805
This one, I run Debian stable for my router VMs, on top of Debian stable KVM hosts.
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I killed God.
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>>100129681
What's to distrust?
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>>100130053
>What's to distrust in pirated proprietary infrastructure .
Stop being so dense
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>>100130053
it's over, anon. he called you dense. free software wins again.
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>finally finish rebuilding server and shove it back in the closet
>ipmi log being spammed with errors overnight about the new, unused fan that I attached to the lsi card
the one thing I decide not to check, I can't believe it
>>100105642
source for your webm and I will gladly respond
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>>100130779
source is the filename
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>>100131010
>vtuber
I should have listened to the other anon
>>100104351
>sapphire rapids
you're better off going with an amd epyc. a 96-core sp5 chip would cost less and give way more performance, especially for compiling. intel simply isn't worth it in the server realm and hasn't been for some time
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>>100091068
>yet another critical sslvpn vulnerability
kek, certified fortigate classic
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>>100090434
>HP
Those make me puke
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>>100130460
>legitimate software, download ESXi from vmware.com
>launch key generator, random output is accepted by legitimate ESXi install as valid license
>apply license(s)
>???
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>>100095909
Is that a PA440/460?
>>100096017
>global protect
You upgraded last week, right?
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>>100131808
>VM ware patches your key exploit Monday
>VM ware Chernobyls or has a huge vulnerability Tuesday
>you fucked on Wednesday
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You know you can still download patches without a license and there is tons of mirror sites.
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>>100132917
But how can you use them when those same patches fix the key exploit and make you face DRM ?
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>>100132978
>drm
they don't contain drm they are fixes for xploit, not new features you dunce
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>>100133017
Even if it's possible now to patch without needing a key VMware can take that away from you anytime they want to go on a piracy crusade because they think it might bump sales for a quarter
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>>100133085
Well your hypotheticals aren't happening right now and probably never will, keep dreaming of working in the industry bucko, something you clearly don't do.
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>>100133132
I'm very surprised you think not working in IT is an insult , really shows where you are in your career . Also very telling is you don't see the architectural problems with having the base of your infrastructure being out of your control and possible unsupportable .
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>>100133303
>out of your control and possible unsupportable
Another hypothetical, damn man, you sure like to dream so much.
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I've got a docker instance of traefik as my reverse proxy providing SSL for a couple of my local web servers through letsencrypt. I'm interested in trying out a different reverse proxy, potentially nginx or apache but I'm undecided and open to any suggestions. Containers need not apply. Minimal to no bells and whistles; I just want one thing that fulfills it's intended purpose and fulfills it well.

Also looking to see if there were going to be any hurdles with having two reverse proxies requesting the same certs from letsencrypt. They would be the exact same certs on both reverse proxies(*.local.domain.tld and *.domain.tld) wasn't sure if that would be an issue or not prior to traefik retirement.
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>>100133344 (me)
Thanks, btw.
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>>100133303
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>>100132872
>using the same 14KB exe keygen since ESXI 5.1
>updating host/appliance using official URLs within the app like normal
>not exposing my host/vcenter to the internet like a third worlder
>???
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>>100125030
>icy dock bay
does that fit in regular pc cases?
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>>100134019
>>100133684
>>100133368
>>100133362
>>100133344
>>100133329

new thread you guys

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>>100134049

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