>just discover the funny trivia that rabbits eat their own poop>I remember that in islam pork is considered impure for a similar reason>do a quick google research to discover if rabbit meat is halal or haram>it's fucking halal and it's consumption is actually endorsed in the quranGodamn islam is pure hypocrisy
>>4786860Abrahamic prohibitions dont make sense and do not show any signs of being divine or advanced knowledge>Pork is bad because... LE TAPEWORMS! The ancients knew!>It turns out there are just as many nasty diseases in undercooked chicken, beef, and scaly fish
>>4786860>pork spoils quickly>old arab countries have no way of preserving it>many people get sick from pork>"THIS ANIMAL IS CURSED BY GOD, NEVER EAT IT AGAIN">2000 years later, all they know is book says this badthere's the history for you, thats all it is, t. arab
>>4786875>It's because it spoils quickly!Actually, fowl and scaly fish spoil far more quickly. Pork spoils no faster than beef and carries foodborne illness at roughly the same rate.
>>4786872Undercooked poultry is 100% worse than pork.>>4786875Why would pork spoil faster than other types of meat? If anything it should be a bit slower because of higher fat content (unlikely to be relevant in practice)
>>4786881Quality pork is very lean, dense meat. Also quite clean if raised like a premium beef cow. Why would it be seen as diseased then?The answer is pig toilets. Literally shitting into a pigs mouth. Nobody ever talks about it but this is likely why they thought pigs were cursed. They had the bright idea of using them as toilets at at least one point.This is similar to the semitic dislike of dogs. When someone died that they did not respect, they would simply toss their body on the ground around the city, and stray dogs would eat it. Therefore they decided the dogs must be cursed, and they totally werent the cursed ones for chucking their fellow mans remains to starving animals.
Really depends on what the farmer decides to feed them.The UK had a meat ban a while back because they were feeing rejected cow meat back to their cows so they ended up getting prions.
>>4786893They were grinding up sheep with scabies into bone meal and using as a calcium additive for cattle feed. They got small amounts of nervous system tissue mixed in and the prions contaminated the cattle.>>4786888Pigs are also one of the few animals that acts as a livestock-human disease vector and can carry diseases like anthrax. They also befoul water supplies, which if you live in the desert is a pretty big deal.
>>4786888Pigs also like to shit on the same place they eat
>>4786875>>4786888>>4786949The Pork Taboo has more to do with economic warfare against the Hebrew urban middle class in 7th century BC than anything else. Goats and sheep required more land and the elites controlled this grazing land, which meant they controlled the mutton and goat and beef supply. Pigs could live in styes in the towns and cities and could be kept on small freeholder plots. When the Northern Kingdom of Israel fell to the Assyrians in 720bc, the Judaean Elites blamed Israelite pork consumption (and not the fact that the Israelites had stopped paying tribute), despite the fact that ~60% of the livestock in Judaea were hogs at that time in history. They did this for two reasons, firstly, to distract from the fact that Judaea was still paying tribute to Assyria and didn’t fight to help their brothers, and second, to justify making life difficult for hog farmers in Judaea and thereby increase the value of their grazing land and product thereof.
>>4786959I thought it was because raising pork is a water resource drain. They need way more water as livestock than sheep do.
>>4786860Caecotrophs aren't actually feces.
>>4786860Almost every single animal eats their feces.
>>4786962The region was wetter then and there were a lot less people. The water use wasn't an issue.It was about changing the diets of the people to increase the ability of the political elites to extract from the people in order to maintain their tribute payments and post-facto justify the destruction of the kingdom of Israel by heathens.
Only starving bunnies eat their poop, though some buns will eat meat even though they're supposed to hate it
>>4787142female bunnies feed their offspring with their poop
>>4787143Not if there's other foods readily available
>>4786872Pork is bad because it triggers Crohn’s disease, which 80% of Jews have
>>4787167That would definitely make sense. Also important to remember that they have sky high rates of schizophrenia. A lot of their ‘beliefs’ could have very well been written down by a paranoid mad man/men and thus inconsistencies are to be expected
>>4787126That seems unlikely. It’s certainly not anything resembling a habit for most
>>4787167>>4787255All the inbreeding that led to this being the case occured during the middle ages, way after the jewish dietary laws were codified.
To my knowledge, the "poop" that rabbits eat are different from the poop pellets they shit out. They eat it to complete their natural digestion process. Pigs eat shit just because.
>>4787143>>4787146That's an instinct that helps transfer the bacteria they need to digest cellulose.
they got it from egyptians, i do always kek at poultry being clean and pork being unclean when poultry is nastier in every way
>>4786860The Jewish reasoning is somehow even more ridiculous>Don't eat pork because...it has hooves but chews the cud!What kind of reasoning is that?
Take the vegan pill.
>>4786860Boy, Its almost like religion has been written by simple farmers without any understanding of the natural world around us, with heavy plaigurism of one another.
>>4789935iirc most kosher rules revolve around avoiding cultural habits that existed at the time in Phoenicia. For example the ban of mixing meat and milk products came from an adjacent culture having a dish where they would cook a calf in its mother's milk.This is just a guess, but the other local tribes would have probably gorged on hog. Till this day you can find wild boar roaming in haifa (pic rel)
>>4786860Sure it doesn't really make any sense and is hypocritical and arbitrary, but I don't see how that's any different to western civilisation's values that come from Christianity, and are followed because now they're the norm regardless of whether or not you're Christian yourself.
>>4790021> and are followed because now they're the norm regardless of whether or not you're Christian yourself.… That’s the case for literally all of civilization? You adapt to the local culture and traditions, in extreme cases like Islamic countries it’s not only the “norm” but literally the law
>>4790107Exactly, and it's all pretty arbitrary and sometimes doesn't make sense if you think about it for more than 2 seconds. But this thread is focusing on one dumb rule from one religious group without any self awareness of the fact that similar dumb rules exist in our society too. Who are we to throw stones lmfao.
>>4790021Because most christian values are actually generic human values, and the uniquely christian values and commands are largely ignored by the "faithful" or don't actually exist in the bibleYou can find the exact same shit in totally distant cultures like asians that had never met a christian before. Sexual deviants are gross, killing without just cause is wrong, stealing is wrong, parents should be honored, etc. Also some things you probably think are christian values are not and were never, they were just assigned 'the bible agrees' status based on an >implication to make people feel better about changing traditions.
>>4790116>actually generic human valuesNot really. What Christians consider sexual deviants is what many civilisations throughout the world consider(ed) perfectly normal and acceptable. The best argument homophobes ever had was>the bible says it's wrongBecause every other argument falls apart upon closer inspection, so they have to turn to their magic book. How is that any less dumb than pork bad because magic book said so? It's not. The only difference is this time its YOUR magic book.
>>4790121Greek common folk considered homos grossGermanic tribes threw them in riversShinto Buddhists consider them sinful and anti-life
>>4790121The arguments about them spreading disease, injuring anuses, and molesting children only exist in the bible? Sir those are statistical and medical facts.
>>4790126>these other people with their own magic books align with me so I'm rightThe Mayans believed that cutting people open made their sky friends happy. They must be correct bevause they're not the only civilization to do that.
>>4790114We can throw stones because it’s not us enshrining these (sometimes) archaic ancient rules and commandments into *most* of our laws
>>4790129Yes it is correctAnd the gods choose you!
>>4790121>What Christians consider sexual deviants is what many civilisations throughout the world consider(ed) perfectly normal and acceptable.For every example you have of this from a civilization I promise you I have something to show the opposite, *at best* it was a contentious issue that was not always agreed upon and had some variation in how acceptable said ‘deviancies’ were which is to be expected when you consider there are humans onliterally every corner of the globe but this is just more “most intelligent animals practice homo sex :)” arguing
>>4790116You think this because Christian morals (like not exposing infants) have been spread to most of the world
>>4786860Not to derail the topic bit since it's somewhat related butWhy don't Americans eat horse? There's no religious reason, yet seems like such a weird cut-off
>>4790180Christian morals are derived from ancient proto-indo-european religion. You're not a true faith, you're a long ways down the grapevine from it, which is why the Real God does not talk to you anymore and all you have is some ramblings about what was probably some errant fire demon with a nice ass. Christians were never the only culture to forbid abandoning infants. Some tribes did, some tribes did not. Japan is notably a culture where it was never an accepted practice except in the earliest, literal stone age times.
>>4790172Yes we do lmao. Abortion has lost its protection in law in the US, some states are now making abortion illegal and the only argument against abortion is my Magic Book says so, since again, any other argument falls apart when you think about it for more than three seconds. And this is law now.
>>4790175>most intelligent animals practice homo sexIs a more sound argument than>homo sex bad bevause this dude 2000 years ago hallucinated and said it is
>>4790810Tbh you don't need to be a Christian to find killing fetuses morally abhorrent.
>>4786875>we don't know how to preserve meat with salt even though the sun beats down on us and we live on a peninsulaYeah no wonder most of your population is inbred>>4786949Pigs are relatively clean animals. Pig rearing practices make them live in their own shit
>>4790772Because they're considered companion animals, and because they are far less efficient at turning grass into meat than cows are.Mostly because of the friend aspect. Horses are some of the smartest herbivores, and the use of horses requires cooperation between the rider/driver, which often leads to mutual respect and a bond.
>>4790821So your best argument is>it makes me feel ickyWhich is about as sound as>magic book said no>>4790772This is a good example too. Horse slaughter is illegal in the US because it makes horse girls feel icky. That's it. Those feelings aren't shared elsewhere, horse meat is readily available in most of Europe and even just across the US border in Mexico. But the feelings of horse people were put ahead of logic and horse slaughter is against the law. This is no more or less logical than not eating pige because magic book said not to.
>>4786959>The Pork Taboo has more to do with economic warfare against the Hebrew urban middle class in 7th century BC than anything elseNow explain the pork taboo in Judaism.
>>4790834>T. Dog eating Chinaman
>>4790869The economic warfare was between the Judean Elites and the Judean middle class.
>>4790810You’ll notice I highlighted the very important keyword “most” in that post because it’s the one exception to what I was talking about. Abortion is the Great Wall that still stands and even then not even in all states like you point out. That’s one exception. Compare it to Islamic nations and the difference is pretty daunting
>>4790812>Is a more sound argument thanIt’s a good thing most arguments against homosex have shifted away from that stuff and more focusing on the high rates of STDs, pedophilia, rape, etc. among those communities and people then
>>4790810> and the only argument against abortion is my Magic Book says soit’s not but I’m sure it’s very convenient for you to believe that
>>4790812The point is that it’s a lie, bud.
>>4790810no, its perfectly legal to have an abortion if you got raped or the child is extremely fucked up and quality of life is so bad that death is a mercy (like some cases of really fucked up children in constant pain because canada is retarded and wont let the parents allow the child to die), otherwise if youre getting an abortion because you want to have unprotected sex, when condoms, spermacide, morning after pills exist, youre am degenerate woman, you shouldnt be having sex in the first place
>>4790888The power of religion in written law vs social pressure isn't that much different, especially now the abortion thing has opened the door for more religion-pushed rules to be written into law.>>4790889You fell for propoganda.>>4790890There no arguments against abortion that aren't>it makes me feel icky Or>magic book said not toOr >thinly veiled sexism And all 3 are shitty justifications.>>4791131In some states in the US abortions are illegal across the board.
>>4791138no, theres always an exception, be it rape, fucked up child, or its going to kill the mother
>>4791140Multiple children in certain US states have been forced to carry fetuses to term after being refused abortions.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/teen-girl-mississippi-abortion-ban-b2392968.htmlThere may be exceptions written into law, technically, but practically there are no exceptions. You can't get an abortion if your rapist hasn't been convicted of rape, something unlikely to ever happen. Even if your baby is fucked, some states ban it outright.https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/02/health/florida-abortion-term-pregnancy/index.htmlThere are lots more examples if you really care. I doubt that though.
>>4791138>And all 3 are shitty justificationsYou haven't proven why this is the case.
>>4786860>>it's fucking halal and it's consumption is actually endorsed in the quranNot all types of Islam, Shia for instance consider it haram. Sunni will eat it, but its easy to trick them to note eat rabbits by saying they eat their own poop and are related to rats therefore haram.
