Terriers are absolutely nuts no matter how theyre raisedT. Realistic terrier enjoyer
>>4784187Being a good dog parent passes onto the dog 99% of the time but pits get a bad rap for no reason
>>4784189>dog parentBait or retarded. Either way not worth replying to./thread
>>4784191Dog parent, trainer, same difference... The point stands that pits feel love more deeply than say, chihuahuas or shitzus... And they're one of the only breeds that can actually do anything to defend their owner. There's no better babysitter than a well trained family Pit.
>>4784185Making sure his supper can’t escape >>4784189Sampling the goods
>>4784196>And they're one of the only breeds that can actually do anything to defend their owner. Only if you don't countAkitasAnatolian ShepherdsAppenzeller SennenhundsBeauceronsBelgian LaekenoisBoerboelsBullmastiffsCanaansCatahoula Leopard DogsDobermansEstrela Mountain DogsGerman ShepherdsHovawartPresa CanariosThai RidgebacksTibetan MastiffsBut yeah I guess pitbulls are one of the only, lmao.>There's no better babysitter than a well trained family Pit.Except literally every single breed listed above and more.
>>4784732Half of those dogs simply do not exist, there's a litmus test. Have you seen any of those breeds IRL?
>>4784185one day that dog is gonna eat that baby
>>4784741pitxisters… any response?
schizophrenia thread
>>4784732… you didn’t list Great Pyrenees? 130lbs of fuzzy guarding instinct isn’t just useful. It’s fucking comfy.
>>4784867>>4784865
>>4784741Dogfags are insane and violent. More news at 11.
>>4784185Sure, but do you know if your pitbull is going to randomly get a mental breakdown?You can't train against mental illness in your dog.I don't doubt they can be loyal and loving dogs when trained correctly. But its the fact that so many of them were bred to be naturally aggressive and have so many mental health problems that can make them become violent with little notice.Imagine if you took humans and selectively bred those where the best in gladiatorial combat and also wanted them to be able to get violent really quickly for said combat. That is exactly why Pitbulls have so many issues.If they where cross bred with a dog that was not known to have mental illness or just not aggressive it could work out. Like a Beagle, Boxer, or Labrador. Until Pitbull breeders admit that the minds of the dogs they breed are as deterministic as the way they look this issue will never be solved.
>>4784893>Labrador, Beagle>no mental illness lolBoxers have facial illness. UGLY fucking dogs but such sweethearts. My neighbor has a boxer/pit mix and she's the sweetest thing but doesn't understand her size so my son is not allowed to play with her. She wouldn't bite him or anything but he's a first grader and she likes jumping on people.
>>4784871hope the kid gets mauled to death and the parents jailed for life
>>4784885In the den of lions
>>4784926Has the latter part ever even happened in those cases
>>4784943jailed, yes. for life, probably not. rapemurderers dont even get life
Why are normies adverse to hounds?>sweet>gentle>docile>mostly healthy>independent enough to be home alone without going mental>social enough that the comings and goings of a busy family wont make it go mentalOk theyre not super obedient but who cares if its just a family pet?
>>4784950It's almost entirely zoosadists who own husky mutts.
>>4784954>bringing up huskies out of nowhereWhat?
>>4784959>out of nowhere
>>4784964>hounds>looking upwat
>pitbulls only bite more often because they're so often raised by shitty owners that don't train them right!Prove it. Show actual evidence that pitbulls are disproportionately poorly trained to the degree that it can account for pic related.
>>4784970>strawman>show actual evidence to my non-academic evidence
>>4784187This is the part i dont understandLike nobody bats an eye if you say yorkies or jack russels act insane but a 40lb yorkie with 300psi bite force bred to fight other 40 lb yorkies is sacred and and docile for some reason
>>4784977>bred to fight other Yorkies This is the key phrase. They are fighting dogs with dog aggression. Very few possess human aggression.
>>4784981>Very few possess human aggression.
>>4784981The aggression is there and innate and if you dont manage it it will surface inappropriatelyPitmommies and shelter karens wont even acknowlede it, let alone manage it which is why they all should be considered dangerous
>>4784925When was the last time you heard a labrador, beagle, or a boxer randomly developing psychosis?Also fuck you, Boxers are beautiful dogs. I can not resist smiling back at them. >>4784977>>4784981>>4784187You know part of the reason why pitbulls can be so violent is because they where cross bread with terriers for their aggression.
>>4785079God damn why do i bother with this low iq board
>>4785086Go clean the little box faggot.
>>4785102What little box?
>>4785104The one inside of the big box.
>>4785109Go read a book
>>4785079>Terriers for aggression For prey drive.Terriers aren't human-aggressive.Reactive Chihuahuas owned by shit grandmas who never care for them don't count.
>>4785079Even well trained pits are insanely neurotic. Constant lip licking, whale eye, shaking, biased tail wag. Often chewing walls and doors to deal with separation anxiety. Resource guarding. Just complete fucking spazzes. The breed should be banned just because they all seem to live in constant anxiety and discomfort.
>>4785152That's all caused by humans. Banning dogs doesn't solve the problem, people just move on to a new dog.
>>4785167So, coincidentally, every pit I’ve met has neuroticism exclusively caused by their owners. While every other breed I’ve met has “good owners” who don’t cause this neuroticism outside of a handful of insane small dogs. Then the solution is to just ban any pet owners with a neurotic dog from ever owning dogs again, until they pass a training course to make them into good owners.
>>4785175I just think if you are susceptible to manipulation and you read one bad thing about something you’ll start seeing everywhere. It's the spotlight effect. That solution sounds sane and most rescues already have rigid procedures in place to make sure their dogs go to good homes.
>>4785187I think you have a savior complex and cannot accept the sad truth of breed instinct and instinctual behavior. Being pro pit is pushed massively on social media platforms- if either of us is consuming propaganda, it’s you.
>>4785256Looks like it’s fighting off the urge to bite his face off
Like it or not, small dogs are the most logical choice for people with children and/or small muscles.
>>4785236The breed instinct is that they are very bad with other dogs if they aren't pet quality like 80% of dogs are irrespective of breed.
>its how you raise themHow come other dogs aren’t as aggressive even when raised poorly or with aggression in mind?There’s this old man I know who took in a Rottweiler guard dog because some suburban youths robbed his house and the dog tried to cuddle with them. He worked him a bit and he’s a lot meaner now but he still never attacks unprovoked.
>>4785386Mastiffs, Shepherds, and LGDs are as bad and worse when raised poorly.
>>4785306The breed instinct is to ignore pain and win dog fights + prey drive and gaminess from the terrier portion. So they never get to work because their work is dog fighting, and it makes them neurotic. And then one day they snap, zero in on a child or grandmother (prey), and maul them. People are not raising their dogs to rip their children out of their arms and spread their guts across the yard, and you don’t fucking see that behavior with any other pure breed (besides rotts and gs rarely).
>>4784741why are pit owners like this?
>>4785386They can be though, the main issue isn't necessarily aggression since there are dogs more aggressive than them, but that they poorly telegraph/snap more often and when they do get aggressive its way worse.
>>4785510>the old B-but pits don't tell their next attack!They aren't human boxers retard, and this has never happened before. What's next? Lockjaw?
>>4785397>are as bad or worseI refuse to believe that pits are both more popular than all mastiffs, shepherd and lgds combined and also just happen to be abused at a higher rate. Face it, pits are just dangerous dogs.
>>4784981They SHOULDN'T (increased dog aggression and dishonest signalling though can still lead to human aggression if not handled), but ironically the complete removal of the breed from dogfighting and into backyard breeding and all that produces dogs that are no longer so tightly controlled. When the APBT's ancestors were still used for dog fighting, any human aggression would lead to even collateral relatives of the dog being culledRetarded pitmommies are another huge cause, an APBT should only be owned by an active single male that actually excercises yhe dog rigourously. Weird shelter mixes also may give you some horrific mix of drives. An actual APBT simply shouldn't be a general population type of dogCompare the American Bulldog to the APBT and you can see it is the terrier admixture that really just turns them into the fucking lunatics they are.
>>4785167The breed has a high strung sort of nature like a Malinois, it's a working dog (even more - it's a game dog). Even the supposed "companion" breed American Bullies (I own one, they're absolutely not, the way retards like to believe) have some level of this - though they exhibit much more of a Mastiff and Bulldog nature (i.e. they are lazy fucks - but have a stubbornness) and may exhibit fairly high dog dominance and even aggression rather than the terrier sort of prey drive
>>4784196APBT are very bad "defense" dogs (not that they won't defend an owner), barring perhaps if you count bandogs.
>>4785580Retard
>>4785961Bullies are real cool. All the ones I've seen were real friendly. They're like what pit bull defenders say pit bulls are.
>>4784741Do these insane pitfags only exist in America? I live outside Portland and I can't even count all the homeless retards here who have these things off leash outside their rape vans just prowling around
>>4784189She needs to teach him to stop playing with his food.
https://twitter.com/BLACKLOTUSTAC/status/1785741606353567755/video/1Umm pitsisters? Our response?
>>4787457Our response is IT'S HOW YOU FUCKING RAISE THEM. Those pitties just looked like they were playing anyway. Bunch of pussies, all I would have done is snuggled them and booped their noses
>>4787457we pretend it didn’t happen and bury our heads in the sand again
i take care of some husky pitbull mix dogs for my sister, she is a shit owner and i dont have much time with them but ive taught them to do a lot of tricks they've never had a problem with aggression vs people, even complete strangers that come to the house (they just rush toward them, then sniff them like crazy before getting clingy and wanting attention from the new person) but its scary when people walk by the fence, especially with dogs because i dont really know how mine are going to react and not being able to control how people or their dogs will actthere are times when my dogs will go up to the fence and bring their paws up to see over and just check people out, sometimes my dogs do some light barking at the passerby, sometimes they'll have a dog and it will immediately start losing their shit at our dogs and our dogs will get riled up in turn, sometimes everyone is chill but my dogs will stick their heads out past the fence in a desperate attempt to smell the other dog and wag their tails/whimperi just want to train them to basically not react at all to people walking by, to just chill instead of getting scared/nervous and rushing to the fence. is it just them being vigilant, bored or wanting to mess around with the other dogs or what do you think i can do besides tell my sister she needs a slightly taller fence
>>4787539Ok
>>4787547im just asking, you dont have to be rude
>>4787549I'm just acknowledging that I read it is all
>>4786309Even owning (technically not mine) and coming to love him, they are a bit more like the "UwU he just wants snuggles xd" shit that people spout about pitbulls, but I still ASSUME dog aggression is on the cards, even though it's actually pretty rare and most cases have been someone letting their unsocialised misbehaving dog to try hump or piss on him, or an actual escaped game APBT. An outdoor Husky tried to maul him as a pup, so now he does have some reactiveness around Huskies and Malamutes (males at least). People treat the situation as either one of two retarded extremes, like I move him off the path and sit and wait to allow people to pass, not everyone likes dogs, and some people sneer like I just raped their granny right in front of them, or they get all "uWu he's a cute snugglebug xd". Even the APBT "should" be reasonably human friendly, but I wouldn't exactly bet on it with a neurotic shelter mutt and a pitmommy
>>4787539APBT will ALWAYS be dog driven even in a mix, whether that comes out as aggression is maybe not set in stone, but they will have a drive. Huskies are often dickheads too, so you may have a ticking timebomb. I'd probably stick with just reinforcing calmness and non-rectivity as you are, "it doesn't matter if there's a dog over there, leave it alone" being the message to the dog.
>>4787457Show this to liberals when they ask why you need a gun with a high capacity magazine.
>>4787660>Oh, so you "need" it for felony animal abuse because you're too bigoted to use pepper spray? Let me guess, 18 60? 14 88? All you pittie haters are the same. Dogs dont deserve to die because you triggered them by coming too close to their territory. They just need some training. Give me a youtube video from larry krohn or joel beckman and i'll have all these pitties turned into loving nanny dogs in a day. And you want to kill them, psychopath!
>>4784741most hinged pit bill mommies.
>>4784196>The point stands that pits feel love more deeply than say, chihuahuas or shitzusHow the fuck could you know this? You really think you can compare the qualia of different dogs?
>>4787660>>4787666True and factual scenarios.
>>4784981Dog only aggression is a myth. Colby's own dog killed his nephew.The one unique thing about pit aggression is that it's predatory towards dogs (and people). One fighting pitbull was known to eat it's opponent's flesh in the ring.
>>4784185True OP
>>4784196Pits only attacks infants and grannies. Pitbulls are too cowardly to attacks an intruder, which is why this never happens.shitbull owners are simply murderes waiting for their demons to kill babies; we have been over this many times and it has been proven even more times already.Kill shitbulls and kill shitbull owners, simple as.
>>4787457>>4787660It took several shots to bring that big one down too. Is someone calling the cop a pussy lmao
>>4788998based shitbull hater. We need to exterminate this breed as soon as possible.
I hope every pitbull hater gets mauled by a pitbull.
>>4785291>small dogsSmall dogs tend to be vicious assholes. Labs and golden retrievers are more friendly. Big dogs tend to be lazy, so they're also good with kids. Pits are just dumb. They're too small to be overtly lazy, so they do have the energy to be aggressive, and they're big enough to do damage, unlike something like an equally aggressive Chihuahua.
>>4789334Amstaffs are highly intelligent.
>>4789347Cope thread for bull-type terrier fanboys! Remember statistics are inflated and it's incredibly rare to get killed by any dog let alone a “pitbull”
>>4789349>ok, but listen>if you apply my special definition of pitbull>which limits it to a totally unrecognized breed>which has its own name, which is not "pitbull">there are no pitbulls>so there are no pitbull attacksSomewhere, a rabbi shed a tear of prideImagine applying this logic to retrievers>that wasn't a retriever>it was a golden>only labrador retrievers are retrievers
>>4789353>no!!!! Every short coated stocky dog is a pitbull!!! Stop using logic, ahhhh! Serbia!!! Ahh!Kek
>>4789363We accept your concession
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure we owe the entire pitbull controversy today to Michael Vick. His arrest was huge, the racial subtext of it was huge, and accordingly there came a push among dog people to rescue pitbulls, both literally and from their public image as fighting dogs. This was 2007 - how many people ever talked about pitbulls before then? Such was how people outside the project or the trailer park began to adopt pit bulls, and how the culture of it all got to the point it is now.
>>4789452>how many people ever talked about pitbulls before then?Lots of people, zoom zoom
>>4789353>Somewhere, a rabbi shed a tear of pridejejin’>>4789452not reallythis was known since before thenat best it just brought more attention to it
>>4789479>>4789976Nobody called them "velvet hippos" back then. I'm talking about the desperation among respectable dog owners to make them seem nice, that's what came out of Michael Vick. With these people, I attribute it to white guilt, then and now.
>>4789334Small dogs are like that because most of them were bred to hunt rodents and other vermin by chasing them into their own burrows. Labs are just as dumb as shitbulls in my experience.>>4789452The Michael Vick arrest is indeed what psyoped white women into trying to "rescue" shitbulls en masse. Before that, you only ever really heard about them in a negative context. They were still associated with being fighting dogs rather than family pets.
>>4786496>Do these insane pitfags only exist in America?They exist in almost every single western country unfortunately. And it's not only pitfags that behave like that.
>>4786496i think so but its probably just a few freaks worldwide, my uncles staffordshire nip at my cousin who was like 3, he took it to the vet and put it down because he knew it couldnt be around the family.
>>4784189>pits get a bad rap for no reason>no reasonbro...
>>4789349>It wasn't it pit, it was an overlapping breed with 0.000000000001% different DNA!Weird how this isn't an issue with other breed categories. Hound attacks must be under reported or something.
>>4792066I had a friend whose lip got ripped in half by a Whippet. Nasty things
>>4792489How did he not manage to fight off a whippet? They're 90% air.
>>4792493It was a short little woman. She never stood a chance. That's why you should feel very nervous anytime you see a woman walking a dog that weighs more than 40 pounds. They're not actually in control
>>4792569If you NEED physical force to control a dog, you're not in control of a dog.
>>4784185That's true but once a pitbull snaps it's over. I was running in my neighborhood and this mini poodle bit my calf which surprisingly hurt like hell. Can't imagine what my leg would look like if it were a pitbull
>>4792575Hence why most dogs need a collar and leash. I don't trust the average retard on the street to know what they're doing
>>4792569>>4792593Basically. If they sperg out it’ll practically drag them along with them
>>4792672Yup. Love dogs but the gen pub is just too unpredictable. Have had too many close ones with either on or off leash
>>4792593I'd more readily trust that a 100lb woman walking a collie on a loose leash and not struggling has more control over her dog than the biggest, buffest man you've ever seen having to hold his cane corso by its choke collar to stop it hurting itself when it pulls with all it's weight.
>>4784950>Houndy smell>Loud>Not super interesting looking>DisobedientI like them but I understand why the average pet owner goes with a lab or golden instead.
>>4784189When they bite they do not let go. wtf are you talking about?
>>4792871Agreed
>>4792951>Houndy smellSo they stink? Unfortunate
>>4789452Most of those dogs have to be dead by now right? I heard that of those dogs only 2 had to be put down.
>>4785963You can do worse. You can do better. I did a few months of training with a club and the general vibe on pits and bulldogs was that they are retardedly athletic but suck at obedience, the good ones on the sleeve still tend to be “brawlers” meaning they’ll lose interest if the decoy doesn’t fight back hard enough, and the bad ones are straight up garbage that some Jamal bred in his backyard and the dog aggression that comes with them is considered a massive headache for the club or competitive environment which is why none of them are competing at any serious level.
>>4792854where tf do you live if you have many close calls with dogs?
>>4793147There is so much trash in this world.
>>4789349>>4789353pibblepul
>>4793815JEJ
>>4793700I live in Haiti brother. Come visit sometime
>>4793075yeah their skin oil is pretty strong smelling, also any dog with excess skin and wrinkles is going to be prone to skin problems that also smells
>>4793895based on what's going on in Haiti right now I think I will pass
>>4784185>It's How You Raise Them
>>4794208What is wrong with white people?
>>4793895no one in their right mind would do that
>>4794226Tricked by Jews.
>>4784185Dogs should understand that children are not their friend or enemy, that they are meant to be left alone because it is something special to their owner, not them
I'm carrying a knife every day just in case a shitbull even comes close to one of my kids. It'll be bleeding out before even coming up with any ideas in its retard brain.
>>4794399Conan did
>>4784185>>4784189>>4784745>>4784865>>4784867>>4784885>>4785102>>4785256>>4789347>>4789349>>4793147>>4794208Built to be SMASHED and SLAMMED with maximum BONEGIRTH and MISSION STRUCTURE
>>4794535I’m thinking based
>>4784977My yorkie is a rescue and he is very calm. He sometimes gets pissed at other dogs but that is understandable, he never attacked a human in his 15 years of life.
>>4785291No because children are rough on dogs, you need something big and sturdy
>>4794861This fucker is the most lobotimised toadie I've seen yet
>>4793147Good boy
>>4794861toadiebroz… how do we retvrn…?
>>4784185Shit bull killed my cat so nah
>>4795015lots of dogs will kill cats. theyre prey animals like rabbits.
>>4795017Most dogs however will not escalate from there and start munching on people and other animals
>>4795092Pitbulls dont escalate from there, they are already at 100%. If a cat comes first it was just unlucky. Oftentimes a dog or a child is first. Everything that doesnt move is food to a labEverything that moves is food to a pitbullSimple stuff
I like pitbull type dogs and think they are cute but I also wouldn't own one or let them near a kid.
>>4794208Even the baby realizes it's in danger. What dumb ass parents, their literal baby is more aware than them lol.
A nigger is still a nigger when raised by a white family. There's no raising that'll fix genetic predisposition. Do your part and kill every pitbull you see. I have killed 11 pitbulls and every time the law takes my side, I just tell them "that fucking mutt was being aggressive and tried attacking" and you'll be just fine.
>>4784871Chucky trooned out??
>>4784867At least she's rightfully afraid.
>>4789347A cat can do this. Bid deal.
>>4789349>maybe maybe maybeSo he's talking out of his ass, I see.
Reminds of The Onion's:>Boy’s Tragic Death Could Have Happened To Any Family With 20-Foot Pet Python
>>4797293
>>4797293>>4797294Made me fucking lol
>>4794868Oh shiiiiit that's a fire collab. When do it drop
>>4797285I’m pretty sure something like that did happen funnily enough
>>4796907It’s a primal kind of realization. He doesn’t yet know what death is but he can still feel a vague sense of impending doom right around the corner and stays silent but alert in hopes of not drawing its attention. Scary stuff.
>>4796918pretty muchnature will be nature
>>4794861SMASHEDLAMMED
