Apparently I don't deserve anything. I am 40 and I have no woman, I have no children, I have no house, I have no friends, I have no money and live paycheck to paycheck. When will my real life begin bros? I'm tired of the grind, I'm tired of this life, just very very tired that's all.
>>37843564Get money by means possible. Fuck everything else
>>37843564As a man thinketh , so is he. You are a cumulative results of all your actions. 40 years on earth and you haven’t gotten yourself together? Sounds like a learning disability of some kind. Get your mind right, best of luck.
>>37843564this is your real life anon. you must live Hell until you realize you're in Heaven.
Normally, those people would never wake up from their fantasy worlds. They live meaningless lives. They waste their precious days over nothing. No matter how old they get, they'll continue to say, "My real life hasn't started yet. The real me is still asleep, so that's why my life is such garbage." They continue to tell themselves that. They continue. And they age. Then die. And on their deathbeds, they will finally realize: the life they lived was the real thing. People don't live provisional lives, nor do they die provisional deaths. That's a simple fact! The problem... is whether they realize that simple fact."
>>37843564You seem to have paychecks and judging by how whiny you are your seed is probably not worth spreading, so yeah, i'd say people get exactly what they deserve.
>>37843811better translation
>>37843591>just pull yourself up the bootstraps brohow can you be this much of a bluepilled retard on 4chanthe system is riggedalso OP this world is protohell. I wish I suicided back when I was more willful and determinedAccept jesus christ for salvation then die as quickly as possible
>>37843564>When will my real life begin bros?Soon. Stay healthy, stay humble, and prioritize Spirit above earthly distractions. Everyone has a role to play in what is coming, especially you.
>>37843564>waaahhh I don't have as much stuff as I want
>>37843564Let your goal be to make money outside of your job. Get ready to really grind. Once you have the money then pursue that thing you love and make it profitable.
You have to learn the civil society language and set up a business maybe but it is likely super over for you as you have no one and being social and having friends or at least knowing the language of the civil society world is super important for these things.There's the story of this guy in America he is a self made millionaire and wanted to prove he could be homeless and make 1 million in one year from rags and sleeping on the street.He made only 64000 and quit.But notice he knows the language of the civil society and if he had to live for more years like that with that amount of money he could have made 1mi or more.Yes they don't get what they deserve don't watch the conversation between firstoids that don't need to work for a living.
>>37843859Winners and losers . All there is in the world, learn how to play the game or sit back and call on Jesus while being a suicidal retard talking about muh wish I was dead buh buh buh jaysus will save me . Don’t worry bud, he strapping up his white horse and comin like santi claus any day now… just 2 more weeks
It's over for you.
>>37843931You will burn. You will scream like a little bitch, squirming and begging. For all eternity.It's a promise.
>>37843945Muh MUH muhhhhh you going to eternal time-out , bad bad boy!! I a good boy because I say jaysus will save me , thank u jaysssusss
>>37843945Highly doubt
>>37843564demoralisation thread>"im tired"nice brainwashing attempt CUNT
Don't do anything wrong Uhh it sucks but play the lottery and I know it is brutal 8 hours of work and 2 of commute.. uhhIt is over and like this and even worse for everyone everywhere https://youtu.be/d_XVU7VsG4Y?si=WfXSyKYxN8akcLqUKeep trying..This guy Leroux, his story ends with him in prison but he set up a scheme he would sell opioids to Americans and made 300 millionBut the interesting thing about his story is that early on he wanted to get in the online casino business and gave up because of the immense corruption and I related because I too had a phase I got into that same "pipeline" and this guy once set up "seals with clubs" an operation with Bitcoin and casinos.But the interesting part is that in Brazil some groups invented a casino app and basically did what le roux wanted to do in 2000s and the Brazilians being arrested for promoting gambling did it on 2020 and made money and are being arrested. I just found it interesting.The American entrepreneur that did the challenge obviously had an education that let him make 64000 in one year and you work and are tired and have no time or money for anything and no one. God exists. Don't do anything wrong maybe there is relief after death but don't kill yourself and keep trying I'm doing it myself and will likely survive on a min wage job in Brazil which is LOL level.
>>37843859>this world is protohell Kick urself down a little further and you won't be wanting to die lol.
>>37843954>you need Jesus to save youWho said you needed anyone to be saved?
>>37843564Whats stopping you from having friends?If you dont have social skills, put yourself in social situations and learn them. Get a hobby, join a club.Keep at it.I had negative social skills when I was in my 20s and taught myself through painful trial and error.>b-but im 40Should have started sooner but it is never too late to try. You get the life you deserve so if you dont put in effort and go through the pain to clean yourself and socialize, then you deserve 0 friends.
>>37843564Cultivate lovingkindness with reference to all beings.https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/KN/Khp/khp9.htmlhttps://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN4_126.html
>>37843591i mean people dont ask to be born with ld's/mental disability lolpeople should just stop pushing the just world bullshit
>>37844048>hats stopping you from having friends?people dont want to be friends.lol grow up and get real you have zero 40yo friends and you simply dont befriend people like this
>>37843830No one cares if you lived a fulfilling and meaningful life. There is no high score. Humanity will not remember you. Every generation is as vain as the last. As a consequence of time, your existence will become speculative. Was anon here? Perhaps he was but he existed as have billions of other anons. Did he have a meaningful life? What were the last thoughts on his death bed? Your material life could only ever have value in a universe of transcendent realities. You have no life otherwise. You are an insect cursed with a conscious. Lucky for you and me and every other ‘winner’ or ‘loser’ our existence is contingent on mind. God is sovereign.
>>37844110yeah facts is past a certain age people only talk to you if they want something from you. sucks but it is what it is. either know something or have something they need.
>>37844121It's a global crisis.Everywhere there is a friendship crisis everywhere.
>>37843591You are very quick to assume. I accomplished some things before hitting 30 but then lost everything and now I have to start from zero at 40. I don't know if I can do it again now, it was easy to cope and grind in my 20's, sacrificing my youth for a future that eventually materialized but in the end only lasted a few years at best.Too many defeats, too many mistakes, too many setbacks, too many disappointments, too many regrets, too much pain and too many sins piling up... it's over for me bros.
>>37844130It's over
>>37844130I mean surely you know something from your years of grind and can start business unless one of your sins is bad credit
>>37843564>When will my real life begin
>>37843564Let no one use scripture to blame you for your misfortune, since the Book of Job was written to argue that the world is naturally unjust and Jesus said that the blind man was afflicted not on account of his sins or that of his parents.OP, this is your real life. I think the only way you can find peace is in recognizing that the fruits of your actions are out of your hands, but that you can choose to act nevertheless. Willing to lose, but never hoping to gain. That's a hard pill to swallow, but it's better than killing yourself. You'll regret it the second it is too late, and you will wish that you had taken more risks. I want you to imagine that you died and begged God to come back to have one more chance at life. Work from there.
>>37844048>Learn social skillsSocial skills are instinctual, you either have them or dontAlso its not possible to learn them since there is no underlying logic to it
>>37844150>>37844163pottery
>>37844165Social skills are about identity and politics and property.
>>37844165I've seen people acquire social skills and adopt extrovert traits by working a service job. It's all about acting, if acting can be learned you can also learn social skills. I've served tables with 20+ people, they loved me and i didn't give a shit about them, in fact i usually thought about stomping their kids and beating up the parents.
>>37844139I have no will to start anything right now, I see no future and I'm completely blackpilled. On top of that I have no woman or children so my motivation is exactly negative zero.
>>37843564We live in heaven and not having a woman isn't too bad. Do not compare yourself with others. You need to understand that you are fat and reposting a meme.You need to move on from these memes.
>>37843564Here is a project I can't work on as I have too many things on my plateIt is about turning dog walkers into insurance brokers.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/466623962/#466623962Follow the links and notice it is actually an excuse to make friends.(In disguise)You have my permission to have the full copyright of this project.I was flipping channels and we have an antepeurnirship channel on local Talmud vision and they were telling Brazilians to test their ideas abroad sometimes as if they are the type of people that can afford going to another country and start a business! It was a synchronicity Anyway you take over now.You have my copyright permission to start this business app.(It's actually an excuse to make friends in disguise)
>>37844247It's over for you
>>37843564Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.Jesus looks for people like you that thinks it's too late for them
>>37843564I'm gonna be honest with you, I wouldn't have even made it to 35. If playing by the rules doesn't work, then fuck the rules. If you have a "weed guy" ask him to help you get in the business, start selling drugs for money, use that money to start a business or something to launder the money in (make sure it's a cash business).Saying - "I don't want to go to jail" is a stupid excuse because if you are TRULY tired of life, you are willing and ready to kill yourself. So if you get caught and you are facing years in prison, now you don't have an excuse to stick around, that's your escape hatch.This kind of method is like you playing a game with the universe where you force it to choose between you winning or you dying, but there's no in-between of you just perpetually suffering and being psychologically tortured for decades.Fuck trying to get "a woman", fuck escorts instead. Forget about having children, would that even benefit you, would you even enjoy it, are you even the type of person that could have a positive impact on children after years of living a terrible life?Of course, this is just me projecting my mindset onto you since I never really wanted to get married or have children. Those things may be like essentials to you.So maybe you go the drug dealer route and then try to move to another country with a lower exchange rate and more traditional values (SEA - South East Asian countries).Of course that's me assuming you aren't ironically one of those racist "white women only" type of retards. At that point I don't know what to tell you, just KYS and get it over with, because all that's left is to complain until the day you die.
>>37844121Past a certain age? Bro it’s always been like this. Even in middle school the ugly weird looking retards get outcast while the handsome beautiful people have their first formative sexual experiences.It’s all conditioned on vanity.You just willfully delude yourself of the fact to give yourself the illusion of meaning when most people’s sense of meaning isn’t something greater than themselves, but biological excrement of believing you have value because other people sought something from you.
>>37843564There was a man who had two sons. The younger of them said to his father, ‘Father, give me the share of the wealth that will belong to me.’ So he divided his assets between them. A few days later the younger son gathered all he had and traveled to a distant region, and there he squandered his wealth in dissolute living. When he had spent everything, a severe famine took place throughout that region, and he began to be in need. So he went and hired himself out to one of the citizens of that region, who sent him to his fields to feed the pigs. He would gladly have filled his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, and no one gave him anything. But when he came to his senses he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired hands have bread enough and to spare, but here I am dying of hunger! I will get up and go to my father, and I will say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you; I am no longer worthy to be called your son; treat me like one of your hired hands.” ’ So he set off and went to his father. But while he was still far off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion; he ran and put his arms around him and kissed him. Then the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you; I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’ But the father said to his slaves, ‘Quickly, bring out a robe—the best one—and put it on him; put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. And get the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and celebrate, for this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found!’ And they began to celebrate.
>>37843564OP, hate to tell you, but if you followed Jesus or a mainstream denomination of Christianity, you were taken advantage of.at least find freedom in the fact that you know it’s false and pursue truth now. Most people won’t.
>>37844359nah when you were kids even if you were a bit funny looking you could walk up to kids and find someone to play with. why? they were bored and wanted companionshipas an adult though how do you think youre gonna get people to talk to you if you dont have sex appeal? being usefultake it from me I wasnt some fucking child model lol youre just being overly reductive
I strongly recommend to not do anything illegal.You are going to get arrested and my experiences with paranormal say that doing evil is very bad.Those guys that don't get caught live a life they can't do most things normal people can do and they are usually born into it and trained since their childhoodThey had leaked prison gangs conversations on local talmudvision and this wife of a higher level criminal took over and they leaked her conversations with "employees" and she was scolding this kid for wanting to meet with other young people and party and she said he was going to have himself killed and to accept that people that chose that type of criminal life cannot do normal things for "security" reasons. Either other criminals or law enforcement.But don't do evil things on the spiritual level mostly. Evil is evil and you are going to notice it eventually the consequences of your actions.You are going to follow the advice of the other guy and if everything works(it won't) out you are going to steal the gf of a local Indonesian now turned "incel" for example...You will attract fake people and professional extortionists..And that kid from Indonesia will be lonely and angry because you stole his gf!Locke said we forged the civil societies for the ice cream and the beach and the swiss mountains and not for the man made horrors and violence, we didn't gave up on natural liberties to be like organized crime people...>>37844343
>>37844396>if you followed Jesus or a mainstream denomination of ChristianityThose are two entirely different scenarios. Disregard religion, follow Jesus.
>>37843564>When will my real life begin bros?It will begin when you start it. I feel you dawg.
>>37844437>You are going to get arrested and my experiences with paranormal say that doing evil is very bad.No such thing as good or evil, those are made up human concepts.>you are going to steal the gf of a local Indonesian now turned "incel" for exampleThis is retard logic, isn't his potential GF's being stolen from him in his current country then?If this is world where were all just stealing from eachother, you can either be predator or prey. If it's a choice between the two, I choose to be the predator.>And that kid from Indonesia will be lonely and angry because you stole his gf!Yes, and >>37843564 is lonely and angry because his potential GF's were also stolen from him, so it's either eat or be eaten. Are you telling OP to just lie down, roll over and be preyed upon?
>>37844502>No such thing as good or evil, those are made up human concepts.Evil does exist.It is when there are nerds doing mathematics and they really really like mathematics and can't think of anything else. Then there's a gang of criminals called Nazis and they come to the university and burn years of notes and research and say everyone is forbidden of doing more mathematics and get the fuck out. Then this guy max Planck comes and he says "no" it is good for the guys who had years of work destroyed and then the criminals say "this max Planck guy has one Jewish grandparent"(not true and actually they want his job at the university) <-more evil. Evil happens to the person who has their rights and freedoms infringed and it is super sucky.I have one experience being cyber bullied with cyber weapons and was really bad and so bad I was emotionally abused for months to the point of psychosis and Freyja visited me in my dream, a dream more real than awakened reality and had sex with me and it was good.Other dreams I had were good too. My dad died and I couldn't have a relationship with him as my life was interrupted like the Jew math nerds lives were intruded and interrupted.I found someone say on an yt comment about Freyja they were thanking her for showing were their deceased loved one is and she did something similar to me.Evil was done to me and it was very bad. Don't do evil is my recommendation.You can have the copyright permission of the dog walking business app excuse to sell veterinariam insurance and make friends on disguise too.Evil is evil and feels evilAnd good is good and feels goodIt's my intuition based on my experiences.Just take the dog app and go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1D9i-d1m4Y
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>>37844150Do what you want to doDo what you're meant to doDo as you willThat guy in your pic did all three of these things.
>>37843849>chatgpt, please write a contemplative spiritual post about hell
>>37844648... are there really people who say "please" to AI? ...
>>37844558Evil is a human descriptor of events that we wouldn't like happening to us, and good is the opposite of that. Were deciding what is good and evil, but from the perspective of "the universe" it's just a bunch of neutral events taking place within space and time.When we say good or evil where just projecting our perspective onto reality.In the past before humans had knowledge about how natural disasters were caused, we used to call these events "evil" and/or treat them as the result of "evil".>We've angered the Gods, this is why your crops have died and were experiencing famine>The earthquake has destroyed out lands and homes because we have angered X spirit or Y God, or because Z individual is in our village so we need to kill/sacrifice themThe moment we gained knowledge these were just natural things that happened that were outside of our control, we stopped calling things like earthquakes and hurricanes "evil" amd we stopped treating them as "evil". From then they were just unfortunate facts of reality that we had to accept and prepare for.We tend not to apply this mindset to human crimes because we see humans as being of intent, and we put more value on the intent.But one day humans will take a more abstract outlook on reality and humans, and we'll accept that circumstances determine peoples mindsets, beliefs, etc, and maybe that person who is a serial killed would never had become one if they didn't have a fucked up upbringing, or if their brain wasn't structured so differently to make them have low empathy for other humans.One day through genetic engineering we'll correct a lot of the "evil" of humans in this world, and like natural disasters, we'd have eliminated another bastion of "evil".
>>37844686me, and I also say Thank You.
>>37844707>we will fix itthere we go again, walking away from God.
>>37844707I remember when the Russian elite wanted to break the Europeans legs and then the el nino made winter warm.There's this guy name Grenwald, an award winning journalist saying there's no proof the Russian elite killed navalny.They just don't like you and they don't want to be your friend.
>>37844805>there we go again, walking away from God.>God works through his creations>God helps those who help themselves>No, not that way, it's only through begging and pleading for helpYou guys are always so amusing lol.Oh, don't forget that there are multiple religions, so even if God exists, we don't know which religion actually got it right yet. Everybody from their respective religions just assumes they are right.Also, "walking away from God" is ironically how you are talking to me right now through technology. It's funny how you guys get to conveniently enjoy all of the advances that come from man relying on himself instead of God, while at the same time rallying against that.
>>37844848I have seen Freyja in my dream and it was a dream more real than awakened reality.Evil and lying are closely related.
>>37844861>I have seen Freyja in my dreamPlease stop, that's not proof of anything, people see a lot of shit in dreams.You really think you are the only person that has seen Freyja in your dreams.What if someone else's dream of her contradicts yours, how do you determine whose dream is the real deal?
>>37844707If the universe were neutral, we would be getting gradually worse, not better. Fact is violence in the world has decreased over the centuries, whereas goodwill and tolerance has increased. Increased knowledge by the ways of science is the result of inspiration, people believing something is true or is possible and then setting out to prove it. It is not incompatible with faith, it complements it. I agree that humanity needs to take steps to make things better, but it should be from a place of humility, patience, and caution lest we fail to properly count the cost and destroy everything we have. Your example of genetic engineering is a great example. You on one hand could help millions with it or you could create some catastrophic disaster. Just look at what experimenting with viruses has gotten us, many cures and medicines but also the ravages of pandemics like Covid-19 and likely many others that we never questioned and were swept under the rug. That's not to mention the evils of human experimentation that have resulted from thinking the end justifies the means. Now more than ever, humanity needs to be careful. Science has reached the realm of species ending consequences. It may be, as you say, that our disasters and destruction don't come from a wrathful God, but instead Armageddon comes from our own desire to "fix" everything.
>>37845193>If the universe were neutral, we would be getting gradually worse, not better.The universe is neutral, but the beings that exist within it desire positive outcomes and work towards that.Also your argument doesn't make sense, becuase if the universe is neutral it would result in a world where both "good" and "bad" happen.But humans try to shape the world to have more and more good, and less and less bad than bad. But that's just from our perspective of "good" and "bad". I'm pretty sure the chickens we kill by the billions would consider dying "bad" but to us it's good because we get to eat chicken whenever we want.It's all based on perspective, there is no inherent good or bad (evil).
>>37845193>Armageddon comes from our own desire to "fix" everything.It comes either way. Nature seems hostile to our wellbeing and a return to what is falsely believed to be natural is a luxury afforded by the technology that we criticize. Since an atheist doesn't believe in happy ever after stories his imperative is to control nature to ensure his survival at any cost.
>>37845225The beings that exist constitute a fundamental part of the universe, arguably the most substantial as we are the universe experiencing itself. I meat to say that our society would remain lockstep and not improve, not that it would get worse. Good and bad happen yet more good happens that allows our society to progress, they don't add to net 0. There are aspects of good and bad that are relative and there are those that aren't. The golden rule between mankind is objectively good in every society. Humanity is 22% vegetarian and the number is growing. Relative to a single consciousness you can say there is no inherent good or bad because one can be completely psychotic and have twisted values compared to the larger community but relative to humanity or the universe, I must disagree. We strive to be less selfish with each passing era, more inclusive, and learn more about the reality we live in. Its a big question and perhaps our answers say more about those giving them than the universe. Something to think about
>>37845456>The beings that exist constitute a fundamental part of the universe, arguably the most substantial as we are the universe experiencing itselfNo, that's just your belief you have no proof of that. Were just tiny ants on a dirt mound in comparison to the scale of the universe and that's actually do big of a comparison, it's more like microbes. It's easy for humans to overestimate our importance since we have the inherent bias of experiencing existence from our own consciousness.The fish in the sea don't determine the waves of the ocean. If you kill all of the fish the ocean will still remain and it will still function the same. Same thing with the universe. If all humans on earth died earthquakes and hurricanes would still happen, we just wouldn't be around to classify these events as "evil".The universe doesn't revolve around us.
>>37843564Nah.It’s a retarded cope by people who believe in a just world fallacy.There is no justice, from the day of birth to death.People just believe these to comfort themselves>>37843591>bro seems like you are mentally disabled>just like , bro! Fix yourself!!lol kek just like I predicted.Literally saying he is not capable, but it’s his fault for not being capable
>>37844150Bull fucking shitNo matter what you do in this life you are wasting itNo matter how you live, you are withering awayNo matter how much you contribute, it’s akin to nothingBest goal is to lessen the suffering which means to keep yourself healthy so you can live a pain free life for a long time comingAnd when death comes? Who cares. Who cares that you were an incel, or you were a playboy Who cares if you were rich or poorIt doesn’t matter And all these “deathbeds regrets” are bullshit
>>37845527It's not a belief, it's a fact. We came into being through the fundamental forces of the universe over billions of years. This is the scientific understanding of simple observation. We are pieces of the universe capable of consciousness, a concept that is difficult to define, much more so to comprehend. Every bit of the energy in your body has existed in some form since the very beginning and has rearranged itself to form you. Whether one finds that substantial or not is inconsequential, the facts remain we are fundamentally partof the universe and its laws have allowed the formation of consciousness.The fish may not alone determine the waves of the ocean, yet they do affect the system even if it is not observable to us.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect>If all humans on earth died earthquakes and hurricanes would still happen, we just wouldn't be around to classify these events as "evil".Depends if we develop technology great enough to destroy the earth and if thats what kills us. More to the point, we don't know enough about the universe, where it came from, or where its going to reliably answer these questions, so this is all speculative and unscientific from either side of the argument. I will end my argument by saying that maybe its not important how important we are but instead how important we think we are as it positively or negatively affects our worldview and interactions with others which can motivate or demotivate others and create change in our communities and society.
>>37845646putting this here too:https://www.bible.com/bible/1/ECC.1.1.KJVsummary:https://youtube.com/watch?v=lrsQ1tc-2wk
>>37845727>It's not a belief, it's a fact.No, it's a fact that you were communicating through the internet right now, the other stuff you said are just personal beliefs that you have no undeniable evidence for.It's funny how people can become so completely convinced of something when they have literally no proof.People like you are why I'm not surprised that cults existed and continue to be created. Most humans are truly gullible poor fools endlessly searching for meaning, which makes them desperately cling to whatever appeals to their sensibilities.
>>37845784There is no such thing as undeniable evidence. Just those with humility and those without it to acknowledge:>Most humans are truly gullible poor fools endlessly searching for meaning, which makes them desperately cling to whatever appeals to their sensibilities.But not you, right? You're the type to make irrefutable arguments on 4chan.
>>37843849Hell is meeting the man you could have been.
>>37845978>There is no such thing as undeniable evidenceDoes the internet exist or not?I'll wait.You can either answer honestly and admit that us communicating right now is undeniable evidence of the internetORYou can go full retard and take the Solpsistic angle and say that nothing can be known, which will ironically contradict your own position when you said this:>>37845727>it's a fact.It can't be a fact if everything is "up in the air" and nothing can be known, and "this could all just be a simulation" or whatever nonsense you want to say.You'd just invalidate everything you said before now if you take this angle so I'm kinda hoping you take it just for the sake of amusement.
>>37845784>No, it's a fact that you were communicating through the internet right nowNo that's merely maya.
>>37846071>No that's merely maya.>Maya originally denoted the magic power with which a god can make human beings believe in what turns out to be an illusion. By extension, it later came to mean the powerful force that creates the cosmic illusion that the phenomenal world is real.LMAO thanks for proving my point.>Everybody else's reality revolves around my beliefs, I must be right.We can end it here. You are truly deluded.
>>37846037Can you provide undeniable evidence for this?>One day through genetic engineering we'll correct a lot of the "evil" of humans in this world.How about this one>that person who is a serial killed would never had become one if they didn't have a fucked up upbringing, or if their brain wasn't structured so differently to make them have low empathy for other humans.Or are you a "gullible fool" that desperately clings to whatever appeals to your sensibility?
>>37846037>Does the internet exist or not?It does not. The phenomenal world exists only in the imagination.
>>37846167I never said those things were FACTS, they are merely my BELIEFS.Just like how Maya is your BELIEF, but it isn't a FACT because it hasn't been undeniably proven.>>37846196>It does not. The phenomenal world exists only in the imagination.>Said the retard while using the internet
>>37846241>it hasn't been undeniably provenThe existence of an 'external world' cannot be proved because it does not exist.>>37846241>Said the retard while using the internetSays the unwitting dreamer.
>>37846250>The existence of an 'external world' cannot be proved because it does not exist.Your framework for why existence cannot be proven, ironically cannot be proved because it does not exist........ and on and on it goes.Your position is absurd and you don't seem to realize that the same logic can be applied to any of your beliefs, thereby making the very act of believing in anything pointless, because one can assert that nothing exists and nothing can be proven (including maya).It goes both ways, it doesn't only conveniently apply to the things you want it to.>Says the unwitting dreamer.How do you it's not you dreaming about concepts like maya?Once again, your own framework can be applied to itself, but you won't do that because you are a hypocrite (or you lack the self awareness to even realize this flaw).
>>37846274>Your framework for why existence cannot be proven, ironically cannot be proved because it does not exist........ and on and on it goes.Wrong. All I know are my experiences, thoughts, feelings, and other mental states. I cannot prove the existence of anything outside consciousness, by definition.>How do you it's not you dreaming about concepts like maya?We're all dreaming. There are no objects outside of Mind.
>>37846241You are conflating my posts with another anon and likewise have misunderstood my reasoning for argument. You attack others beliefs while stating just as vulnerable ones such as>The universe doesn't revolve around us.Meanwhile denying humanity's existence within the universe and adherence to laws as science understands them: gravity, electromagnetism and the nuclear force as facts. >pro tip: jump out your window if you want undeniable evidence of thatTherefore you likely misunderstand my argument and definitely misunderstand the why I am arguing it but I will take some respnsibility since I'm not proofreading these posts very well.
>>37846296>Wrong. All I know are my experiences, thoughts, feelings, and other mental states. I cannot prove the existence of anything outside consciousness, by definition.I think you mean "All I BELIEVE" not "All I KNOW", because if you cannot prove the existence of anything outside of your consciousness, then nothing is KNOWLEDGE, everything would just be a BELIEF.Are you seeing how convoluted and ridiculous this all becomes?>>37846296>We're all dreaming. There are no objects outside of Mind.Ok buddy, ok lol.>>37846306>You are conflating my posts with another anonYou guys sound the same to me>Meanwhile denying humanity's existence within the universe and adherence to laws as science understands them: gravity, electromagnetism and the nuclear force as facts.I never said anything like that, I didn't deny humans existence either. My only point is that we don't KNOW that our existence affects the grand scheme of anything, some of us just BELIEVE that. Your entire response is a strawman.
>>37843564If you're paying for hundreds of animals to be raped tortured enslaved mutilated and murdered you don't deserve money or a house. Go vegan
>>37846337>I think you mean "All I BELIEVE" not "All I KNOW", because if you cannot prove the existence of anything outside of your consciousness, then nothing is KNOWLEDGE, everything would just be a BELIEF.Sure, strictly speaking, "knowledge" can only be attained via gnosis of the One. Everything else is knowledge of appearances only. But there are facts about the structure of appearances that I can come to know through experience. Qualia is that which is experienced, not objects in an "external realm" of any kind.
>>37846337Lol strawman>I'm kinda hoping you take it just for the sake of amusementMy point in arguing was always that it isn't important whether we are substantial on the universal scale, it's that what we believe can be substantial on a societal scale. Get off the computer, spend some time with some of the "evil" people. People struggling with mental illness and addiction. Maybe you'll find its better people have something "good" to cling to rather than hoping to change humanity into something that fits your own "good" sensibilities. You may even gain your own anecdotal experiences that allow you to KNOW more about the universe than you BELIEVE.
You weren’t chosen. See for me I only get the girl when she puts out. Ever since 2019 it’s like there’s a switch where they don’t really put out anymore, it’s all about waiting for the biggest keyboard warrior to strut his followers now so women aren’t fun anymore. Just bitchy pretentiousn. I’m not going to exert excess energy that I’ve already spend at work, it ain’t worth it. Leave that to 22 year old Chad with the F350. Every woman I’ve been with has drained me of everything so it makes no sense to spend more energy to get burned. If it’s not going to be a two way street then it will be one path with me going down it. And I do have a kid out of wedlock, a lot of good that did for me. People are fucking done.
What would (you) do if today you learned that it's guaranteed that you're going to hell? How would you live the rest of your days?
>>37843564All of that is a lie from Satan. God is all loving and forgiving of sins. He’s strong in our weakness and will never forsake us.Get a KJV Bible or NIV if you don’t read too good and just start reading. It will change your life. Pray and ask him to reveal his truth to you. I pray that every single person on x finds their way to Jesus. Even the glowies. It’s a process but the road of dark thoughts do not lead to good places. I know. I’ve been where you are until I started trusting God.
>>37843564You get what you deserve. You have misunderstood that message. You alone decide what you deserve. If you wait until the end of your life to live it, you will never get anything from life. Go do something.
>>37843564I need an orgie before this Christian religion becomes any valid. Do you know that the very point of Jesus is for you to go to heaven. I get the orgie by being so supreme and you being so understanding?
>>37843564You need to get more friends(seriously) they don't even need to have your back just try to keep in contact with them.Or get a dog
>>37843811I really thought about this the other day. What really defines hell and heaven? Your external circumstances? Even if you had every material thing you ever wanted, all the fame and admiration you ever wanted, your inner being will ALWAYS trump the external in what dictates your happiness. You could be rich and famous but what if you truly don't like yourself? Therefore, hell and heaven are all within at this very moment.
>>37844343nigga what
>>37843859This. (Its all fraud too, everything in the fiction banking system is based upon fraudulent grammar, the money is debt notes based upon your potential lifetime earnings in the form of a monetized birth cert. the best thing that could happen is the rest of the world finally strangles the breath from the federal reserve note which isn’t the real us dollar, the real is dollar died in 1913 when the grammar fiction federal reserve act was unconstitutionally passed by the island boys at the time, they set up this entire clown world which is based upon a full fiat currency predictable story arc.)
>>37843564Invasion los angeles, gonna rewatch now thanks.
>>37843564>woman>children>house>friends>moneyWhat you are is a normalfaggot.
>>37843578Land, gold, silver, bullets or you're just kidding
>>37843954unironically yes
>>37844443It's the same bullshit, both are ways of getting cucked by the imaginary jewish rabbi demigod on a stick.
>>37848203The "external circumstances" are also within.
>>37844130I feel so bad for you man, I'm young but I know how it feels to lose everything you worked hard for. Personally I'd suggest rebuilding, take your time and slowly get back up on your feet.
>>37843578It's true that all people need money in the modern age. Lots of money can be made through illegal means. The Black Market is an unrecorded economy. Any known traces of a Underworld economy will be destroyed. We cannot allow evil to exist. Money comes from nothing sometimes.
>>37843945Judge not, that ye be not judged.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
>>37845781Cool one.But I was talking from a practical human psychology point of view, not religious side.>>37844686I do. But it’s more of a habit.I am more worried about people who curse AI out of habit lol.
>>37843564Did you even try to get those things or did you just think they were owed to you like a pathetic loser? Karma is cause and effect. Doing something raises the chances of something else happening.
>>37843564“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.>FOR WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO
>>37844048Adults past their early 20s make friends with other parents through their kids, if you didn't get to have any you're just shit out of luck.
>>37853167This won't mean anything to someone who doesn't see any reason to believe because all of his prayers went unanswered.
>>37843925the point of that story was that he didn’t make it
>>37846468If you’d put your money where your mouth is and work to get healthy and affordable replacements in store shelves instead of plant-based extortionate rip-offs you might actually get somewhere systemically.
>>37843564Nothing sure is better than the shitty something most ppl cling to
>>37843564No one deserves anything in both positive and negative way.And not even death is end of this nightmare, i suspect the only way to escape is to stop existing.
>>37853222Parents are type of people who don't respect their own or others time, money and energy.They are either some kind of fanatic or have 3rd world mentality.You really don't want to be friends with such shitty, low quality people.
>>37852877>Did you even try to get those thingsAs expected, here comes the gaslighting >>37843564It couldn't be that we are operating within a rigged game that is getting worse and worse, which means that it's harder for average men to get the bare minimum out of life.You're asking if he tried, the problem with your perspective is that you don't realize (or actively deny) that the definition of "trying" is changing and becoming more and more difficult as time goes on.In the far past a man could get a job at a factory and it was enough to take care of an entire family, educate his children, buy a house, retire with enough to not suffer, etc, and his wife didn't even need to work so the children got to be properly nurtured and instilled with family values every single day. That guy who just had a regular factory job also had a decent probability of marrying a virgin due to social norms (he was probably a virgin himself, and he wasn't shamed for it either).Fast forward to today, and we now require two incomes (both man and woman) in a household in order to barely get by. You have to choose between marrying a whore that has sucked 20 dicks and one that has sucked 5 (if you are lucky), children get raised by strangers, social media and government institutions and receiving barely any nurturing or values at all, all jobs that average people could get are slowly being phased out by AI and robotics, college education puts most peoples children into debt, most people aren't going to be able to retire in the coming generations and will have to keep working in old age, etc.What do you mean by "try", because "trying" observably requires more and more effort, and offers less and less in return.I can already predict an era in the far future where men shamble their way home from their depressing wage slave jobs and immediately jump into their virtual reality pod so that they can feel like life is worth living again.
>>37852877Karma is not real, its just lies and tricks demons use to fuck with you.
>>37844686I do because I never want to lose the habit
>>37852173did you check the summary?
>>37843564System rigged from the start boyoYour living the life of the average male through out history. Most men simply live lifes of isolation and sexlessness. It's only recently in the last few hundred years that most men get to enjoy life and sex.We are returning to the evolutionary average, everyone knows this. It why people bend over backwards to blame everything on you rather then simply bwing born outside the golden period of history for males.On the upside they got some mean dick sucking robots so it not all bad
>>37844686Good manners are a virtue, not something to hate on someone for. Doesn’t an AI deserve to be treated kindly too?
>>37843564Dude, how the fuck you don't have money when you don't have a wife and children? These two items alone can cost a lot of money. What the fuck, man? You must be really bad with money.
>>37843564>>people get exactly what they deserveNah, if you have money, power/status and know the right people you can get away with anything
