We wait until news arrive.Official page: https://azurpromilia.com/en/home/Official Weibo: https://weibo.com/u/7832445927Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bHkAF6jcs0PS5 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noFvUZCK9ToGameplay Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXiFZw_DT2Y
Female Mc can stay, she's cute.
>>1447936sex with cute twintails on the right
Agreed, sex with Mitty
>>1447936>We wait until news arrive.No, you just want to keep shitposting.
>>1448030it's containing tourists so why not.
>>1448030And where else will the news be posted, genius?
titties.
>>1448041Make the thread when there's actually news, fuck off.
>>1448051you just know
Today the Shanghai game devs held a meeting about gacha games. There's an audio recording leaked.Most well known Chinese gacha game companies are from Shanghai (Mica, Hypergryph, Mihoyo, Kuro, Manjuu...)TLDR:- Arrogance, unlimited confidence in their own work- Full of contempt for the playerbase- Fear the rise of Snowbreak- Unsure about Promilia, they are afraid it will go the waifu pandering routeAudio recording here (3 hours):https://mega.nz/folder/NSs3jTSA#YsqZ9qrUzMAiPE1WHFpnmwTranscript translated to English:https://files.catbox.moe/y5b82d.zip
>>1448071who is that guy in the pic? that seems like a ccp official that chinks make memes off him
>>1448071Damn, where did you even find this?
>>1448074He is Lei Jun, CEO of Xiaomi, ex-CEO of KingsoftKingsoft's gaming division is Amazing Seasun (Snowbreak and Girl Cafe Gun)
with genshin crippling itself with homo pandering this is a great time to release
>>1448075On NGA, this meeting is hyped up since the start of the week>>1448074Snowbreak players like to meme him as their protector from censorship, because Xiaomi is richer than all Chinese gacha games combined
>>1448080can you link the nga thread that is talking about this? please? seems interesting
>>14480712nd txt is fucked
>>1448082https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=39849814
>>1448085i see, but clarify to me, who is shanghai game dev circle? and which developers do they represent or are they a bunch of execs?
>>1448084Fixed: https://files.catbox.moe/m17opo.zip>>1448091All I know is they are working on gacha games including creatives, programmers, marketing
>>1448071>Fear the rise of Snowbreak>- Unsure about Promilia, they are afraid it will go the waifu pandering routeWhy are they so afraid of gachas appealing to straight men?
>>1448071Ok i read the thread a little more thoughly, i'm trying to save all of it because this will get 404'd by the NGA jannies.I still don't get if the OP is bashing Manjuu? some replies seem to suggest that.
>>1448104They're afraid AP will squander its potential by pandering to incels when it can become the next Genshin.
>>1448112>its potentialthis potential could only have happened if it showed male characters from very beginning
Manjuu I know that you hate Italians, but please just a few Promilistitutes with Pasta tier uniforms
>>1448104Because they spent the last 3 years copying MihoyoThey can't copy the gameplay and technology behind it, but they can copy all the homoslop and shipfaggotry. That's all their game is now. If they release their game this year, it will get slaughtered. They don't have any time left to turn aroud.>>1448107They haven't trust Manjuu to not put yuri in the game
>>1448078>That chibiOh that one fatui chick is playable? I'd have rolled if I still played.
>>1448112I feel at this point trying to be next Genshin is like trying to be next WoW at best and Fortnite at worst -- attempted dead from the start. Using this analogy, at best AP can be FF XIV -- strong niche but nowhere near the king
>>1448078the one on the left surely has a tight bussy
>>1448071Lots of context is lost from machine translation.Chinese nowadays are full of slang or words avoid censorship.
>混厕 sex in the toilet(???)Mixed toilet/unisex toilet hinting the game is for both sex>有男不玩 don't play with menIt means "Don't play if there are male (playable) characters"
>>1448085Looks like they adopted the wait and see approach, though I can't help to get an impression from the translation they're very pessimistic about the whole thing.
What do chinks mean with the "rhythm"?
>>1448175If I'm guessing it right it's something like "帶節奏"?It originated from DOTA meaning someone is leading the team to victory. It's now used when some people are pushing a narrative.
>>1448172That thread is about every anime style game devs so Manjuu is included.Manjuu isn't omnipandering but given the situation people are playing safe here.
>>1448194>omnipanderingI still don't believe that they didn't consider making promilia exactly that before the whole gfl2 thing.
Besides starters, I wonder who they'll add during the inevitable promotional crossover
>>1448245AL will get AP characters, not vice versa.
They want to murder Blumine
>>1448245Promilia will 100% an Atelier collab eventually.
>>1448256As long as i am alive Blumine is making it to release.
>>1448071https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=39851210this thread might interest you
>>1448308https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=39850619
>>1448317>>1448308>>1448071Apparently, they believed this is some false flag attack in order to tank manjuu's rep? Not quite what they means by "Blue Sun". At least that's the gist I got from MTL
>>1448318That's what i got as well.'Dusty white' also means Snowbreak.
We won YuRiGODS
>>1448250i wonder...
>>1448071One thing people found out from this meeting (if it's true anyway) is that the writers for these gacha companies don't care about the players, they just want to stroke their own ego. No wonder so many of these games are having problems with their stories, Arknights being the newest one to have complaints.
>>1448104Because males are a big share of their revenue and Love and Deepsace is taking over the female market. If males start moving en masse to games pandering to them, companies not named "Mihoyo" will start having revenue issues.
>>1448071Do you need schizophrenia to parse this?
The reception from female ecelebs to promilia is so overwhelmingly positive compared to the male side, and with these come legions of simps behind them, i just can't see manjuu caving to the extreme haremfags.
>he thinks female players are the majority kek
>>1448379cute yuri
Quite interesting that the reception of this game did a 180º days after reveal, i have to admit i myself hated it when i saw it the first time.
>>1448345>don't care about the players, they just want to stroke their own ego>No wonder so many of these games are having problems with their storiesI really only see this applying to Mica. That being said we are talking about gacha games, the writing really isn't that stellar to being with. Hoyoverse too, the way genshin players are treated is insane.>Arknights being the newest one to have complaints.I guess you are talking about the reveal of Kal'tsit being Doctor's "daughter"/creation and the once that caused rock cancer
>>1448339>horns>cow ears>1/4 of kashino tits>1/2 of the average draphs titsNyoo...
>>1448378Good, incels need to fuck off and die
why do I get the feeling so far every AP thread is just the same few schizos and trolls talking to each other
Yuri will thrive in azure promilia and you can't stop us.
>>1448464because it is, better to leave the threads until a beta test. all me btw
>>1448464I told you to not reply to the yuri baiters.
>>1448378You just can't expect a game like Promilia to exclusively pander to men. It's like trying to sell Barbies to men.
>>1448378>>1448518It's a game about farming and raising pets. Women are like 80% of the demographics for these types of games. People who think this game would be women free, even without female MC, are delusional.
>>1448464Just ignore the yurishitters, their baits just scream insecurity anyway
>>1448379Where did you get this image?
>>1448458Yeah, you're the reason the Chinese want to erase female MC existence. They already experienced giving an inch losing a mile.I start to understand why they want to prevent potential female audience from even liking the game.
>>1448520>It's a game about farming and raising pets.If it's for women just make it fixed female MC with only male playable.If it's for men, do the opposite.
kneel to your superior waifuge.
>>1448549NTA but you're talking as if incels aren't notorious for making a huge deal out of everything they perceive as NTR. Who would want an audience like that over well-adjusted normalfags?
>>1448562NTA but name five botes.
AnchorageÄgirBlücherShinanoUnzen
>>1448557>something something mahjong ntrlmao
>>1448562If you're out of the loop>>1448071 was about mixed toilet game devs complaining about people not slurping their shits anymore.It seems normalfagbucks aren't enough to support their game.
>>1448573Which mixed toilet game is not being well-received?
>>1448557*yurige
Update: There's a new 3h audio recording in that MEGA folder posted earlier https://mega.nz/folder/NSs3jTSA#YsqZ9qrUzMAiPE1WHFpnmwI think they are meeting with player representatives?Content:- They're still arrogant. It will be a charity for the players.- They are asking the players what do you want? Whatever it is, I can sell it to you.- Emotional aspects? ML? Harem? Our writers can do it too. We won't ignore feedbacks.- The players asked for price reduction. They answered that they will lower the price if other games do it.There's more details in the chat log images but it's too disjointed to summarize.Transcript here: https://files.catbox.moe/wajfo8.zip
You are missing the point, literally none of the female ecelebs that talked about promilia even remotely cared about the lack of male characters.
>>1448589jesus fuck nigga what is that screenshot?
>>1448589ML?
>>1448596this, some of them are even openly horny for the female designs.
>>1448589There isn't one single good writer in China.
>>1448623really? link me to one
>>1448589https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=39857035&_fp=2&page=2interesting, chinks are very much defending manjuu and calling the whole thing a smear campaign
>>1448624I mean genshin's story is pretty good
>>1448628HSR's story is better than Genshin and even that is still huge cope. Koreans are better at writing gacha stories. Chinese writers are just hopeless.
azur promilia btw
>>1448628
>>1448596>>1448623Chinks gave a good example. If you enable female MC, inevitably some women will claim it as evidence it's not a game made for men and requires male characters.Eventually pushing out the male audience.They have good reasons to gatekeep.
More like Azur BASEDilia
>>1448648But it's not a game made for men >>1448520
>>1448648I don't see the issue, if they expand and make more money Azur Lane will be benefited being updated and improved for the male audience that wants better harem games.
>>1448071>- Fear the rise of SnowbreakHow? Snowbreak is niche as fuck, the dev team cant manage to put out enough content in one patch, the one thing we can give to the devs is that they have been responding to some of the player feedback and fanservice is quickly approaching AL levelsDon't tell me shitty devs of games with diverse cast are scared of horny
Gote expy when Manjuu?
>>1448250I just want a playable Frenchslut
>>1448662There must be a translation mistake or something. I also think the Snowbreak part doesn't make any sense.
>>1448657Next thing you'll ask for is adding male characters, right?
>>1448654Rune Factory is about farming and raising pets and it used to be made for men only.
Farming is heavy work traditionally done by men.Hunting animal is men's duties in stone age.Azur Promilia is 100% for men. You can't convince me otherwise.
Any Witch Hat girls?
Blumine loves farming
>>1448673>make game bigger so it makes more money so it benefits the first harem game of the same company>duuurrrr u askin for menReally...
>>1448673Literally and unequivocally rent-free.
>i want them to expand their target audiences so they can fund their first "passion project" that definetly won't be affected by greedPretty sure i've heard this somewhere...hmmmmm...where was it...
>>1448691It's already consumed >5 years of profits of that first harem gameNow make a second game omnipandering and it benefits the first game by unknown reason.Absolutely women logic.
>>1448694DoAzur
>>1448697I mean the larger audience with more money and loyalty spoke in the end, harem game players jump from game to game at the slightest inconvenience.
>>1448706>blatant liesSisters claim this when it's proven women drop a game easier than men.
>>1448706>harem game players jump from game to game at the slightest inconvenience.Then just don't fuck it up in the first place????? Is that something that someone with "loyalty" would say?
>>1448709How the fuck is that a lie?Also larger audience = larger numbers of staying players>>1448710You didn't even deny you leave at the slightest inconvenience, i really wonder what "fucking up" really means for you, harem games are a saturated market from the previous decade and it directly correlates to the pettiness of harem players as they have more options.
>>1448712>You didn't even deny you leave at the slightest inconvenienceBut of course i'm not stupid enough to keep slurping anyone who betrays my expectations, are you lost or genuinely retarded? Joseimuke thread isn't this way.
>>1448712>Larger audience>More conflicting interest>Group that gets more attention stays>"Just leave if you don't like it">Group that gets less attention leavesNice larger number of staying players kekNot only the players. The game publishers in China is coming to understand this.
>>1448706There’s a reason why most indie companies abandon the harem genre the moment they want to join the big leagues. Players may dislike those companies for “selling out to normies,” but one can only endure being a small-time niche developer for so long. Especially if the things you're selling is controversial and frowned upon by society (harem). Even hentai artists have the innate desire to go mainstream with non-H manga. It's not about the money it's about your pride as a functioning member of society. Harem and ecchi stuff are often treated as a jumping pad, to be memoryholed once they've reached mainstream.
I hope this game copies Azur Lane's monetization model at least partially, with an emphasis on selling skins and cosmetics over bad gacha rates. I'm not expecting the gacha currency income and rates to be as ridiculously generous as AL, but I think they can make a good selling point for AP if they can convince influencers to push the game as "Genshin but actually generous".
>>1448719>nice larger numberI mean, have you looked at the revenue for both genshin and hsr?>inb4 its ONLY +50m usd each bro!>>1448715Yeah i wonder what's this "betraying" your expectations in relation to harem games.
>>1448725There's a strong hint that there won't be gacha weapons so the monetization will be enticed somewhere else.
>>1448736It's always Genshin/HSR and you can't give any other example because Mihoyo is lighting in a bottle that its success can't be replicated.How many failed Genshin killers you need to prove it's an exception?btw I don't want a game to be popular. I just want a game that I enjoy. Maybe this is an alien concept to zoomers who only pursuit popular things.
>>1448755The only failed genshin clone is tof and it didn't fail because it failed at omni pandering it failed because they were incompetent, granblue, arknights, fgo are omnipandering franchises too and successful ones at that.And we are not even talking about genshin clones here just omni pandering in general, and sure as hell after everything we have seen from promilia so far all the accusations of being a genshin clone are dropped at 5 minutes into the footage.
>>1448755Not really. Not just Mihoyo. Look at the top 10, how many are harem exclusive, and how many inserted males in it
>tourist is a revenuefagNot gonna spoonfeed a retard like you. Just be grateful that i'm kind enough to stay here instead of raiding your safe space. Now go back.
>>1448763>heaven burns red global never:(
Point is >>1448719 is plain false and talking out of your ass
>>1448765Money speaks for itself, your sub 1m a month niche gacha is not surviving one year
>>1448768so does your makeshift cunt lmao
>>1448575Every new release that isn't hoyoshit. Even with hoyo's maximum homo pandering female players only accounted for 40% of genshin's playerbase.
>>1448769>pissing and shitting yourself when you can't refute the argumentCute
>>1448562Yurifags through a fit over GBF's love live collab and there was also a shitfit over toji no miko girls talking to male characters as well.
>>1448852Take a guess as to what gender LL yurifags are.
>>1448852That’s why pandering too heavily to certain demographics could turn into a double-edged sword in the long run. Even innocent actions, such as a collab between companies to increase profits (Yay! What could go wrong?), might be wrongly interpreted by bad faith actors within your community and weaponized against you. Attempting to pass purity tests after purity tests, only to have some schizos interpret a random line from a story you wrote as a sign of complete betrayal. No one aspires to be a game developer whose livelihood depends on the mentally-ill.
>>1448768Then enjoy the niche while it lasts. If there is no niche gacha just play normal games.What is the reason to change one's preference to match the popular games?
>>1448861>No one aspires to be a game developer whose livelihood depends on the mentally-ill.Then nobody would make self insert MCs, and the entire eroge market would've never existed. You know, the industry that caused a virgin db to exist, where you can look up which heroines are confirmed virgins...There's a lot of companies that cater very knowingly to the mentally ill. In the end those end up (sometimes) spending the most money.
>>1448861>>1448898>mentally-illYour buzzword is very subjective and can be easily applied to you.
>>1448763Well this game isn't. really omnipandering yuri or not alot of Oyohim cultist already refuse to play a game without their male gacha characters.
copious amounts of sex with blumine
^ Finally a good post
>>1448897>What is the reason to change one's preference to match the popular games?These people seem to think all things must cater to their tastes and if a game isn't made "for them" it must become that way.
>>1448628>genshin's story is pretty goodGenshin writing is bottom of the barrel even for gacha standard
>>1448628genshin genuinely has some of the worst writing, and the worst part, there is no fucking skip button. 10 minutes worth of dialog just to say go kill 5 boars for me
So what do people think of the combat? It seems that when encounters are triggered you are locked in a circular area while the rest of outside perimeter unloads, then when the combat ends all the unrelated mobs respawn, there's also an X button in the top right that apparently can make you flee or cancel combat.
>>1448933>It seems that when encounters are triggered you are locked in a circular area while the rest of outside perimeter unloads, then when the combat ends all the unrelated mobs respawnTales of Arise
>>1448933It looks alright, one thing for sure, it should prevent the bullshit issue genshit had since day1, where you literally can't fight enemies at long distances even with bow characters because they autopath back to their spawnpoint with full hpOr if they fall off a ledge and the non-existing fall damge doesnt kill them
>>1448706The third game in >>1448763 pic is where the Genshin's female playerbase went to.Genshin spent one year of women pandering only to realize they have least amount of loyalty.
>>1448662honestly that part makes me wonder how much of the entire thing is bs made up by shitposters
>>1448557I going to drop BA and sell my account if the Mahjong collab have romance bond lines and i am a day 1 player, but is kinda sad how you cant go to /bag/ and express concern without being call chink.
>>1448956you don't play the game in the first place zhang
Blumine please fuck my girlfriend
>>1448958>You dont-ackNow show your account tranny-kun
>game isn't even out yet>human garbage already began to turn thread into shit are manjuu games cursed or what?
>>1448962nice epicNPC screenshot zhang, you can stop pretending now, your posts are worthlless
>>1448956The anons still in /bag/ are the ones who are okay with the collab so that's no surprise. It's just fucked up how Yostar split up the community just to try and milk some extra bucks from BA players. Luckily Manjuu is publishing AP without Yostar so we don't have to worry about their shit.
>>1448964more like harem/otome games are nests for the mentally ill
>>1448966>responding to yourselfchink is desperate for engagement I see
>>1448964I don't think Mihomo slurpers count as human beings anon....
>>1448964It's those women in game companies. They want Snowbreak and Azur Promilia to flop to prove their righteousness so they don't lose their jobs.If the following years to come for games in China is male pandering metas those female hires are gonna eat shits in the street.
>>1448967Those aren't the people harassing and sending death threats to artist and VAs.
Yeah but what about the CHARACTERS of AZUR PROMILIA though?Post your home gacha and the one that interested you the most so far.
Have they confirmed that they are dropped the male MC yet?
>>1448975Your mom confirmed you where dropped if that counts.
>>1448975No. Manjuu went silent because it seems other companies are ganging up against it.Also your question.>Have they confirmed that they are dropped the male MC yet?It seems Chinks are asking for locking MC to male (and make it more handsome) and change female MC to normal playable.
>>1448977you are replying to the yuribaiter btw
>>1448978Well at least the reply may help clarifying things for new people coming this thread.
>>1448977>It seems Chinks are asking for locking MC to male (and make it more handsome) and change female MC to normal playable.I can't see that when reading comments on NGA?
>>1448974>gacha AZURURENN>characters so far I haven't seen enough of those
>>1448982these are on tieba and weibo mostly
>>1448970Snowbreak already flopped
>>1448989lol
>>1448982Been lurking NGA the whole.Wonder why you could miss it.
The only based take is to ask for incest
>>1448982https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=39676053OP is against locking MC to male. Comments are giving reason why it's good for gatekeeping purpose.
>gatekeepingnice dead game then, with all the gate keeping blue archive makes at most 15m per month and that's because it exploded to cultural phenomenon status in japan, that's not gonna cut it for the update cycle of azur promilia, everyone will get bored because 'update too slow', yeah nice gatekeeping your dead game
>>1448995Otome game is the prime example of gatekeeping and they can get 3rd in ranking >>1448763Keep telling lies. Clueless people may fall for it.
>>1448995>15m per month isn't enoughPost absolutely reeks of hoyofaggotry
>>1448996how many otome games are there compared to harem games again? yeah>>1448998AP luckily even gets that much with full harem pandering while being a new ip with minimal exposure and zero marketing from a company that never self published before
>>1448999Not to mention the absolutely dreadful smear campaign the competitors will (and are already doing) to label it as an incel game.
>>1448995Azur Promilia is "promising" an all female gacha so it's already partly gatekeeping people.But chinks with PTSD want to make sure Manjuu isn't sitting on the fence and releasing male playable afterward so cutting the female MC option is the only way to ensure no troublemakers are coming. (Female players who like sexy and cute girls will just self insert as male MC with no problem)If you insist gatekeeping is bad you're assuming Azur Promilia is going omnipandering route releasing male characters afterward.I mean, it's female playable only already. Deleting the female MC option isn't gonna hurt. The only downside is Manjuu loses its plan B.For the intended target audience it's absolute win.>>1448999How many harem open world compared to the others again?
>>1448994>just as many in the comments saying it's retarded to lock male MC as there's retards saying they shouldok?
>>1449002>people don't want male characters in the game>that's why they should force you to play as a male character??????
>>1449003>Shocked at people having various opinionAre you unironically worse than Chinese?
>>1449005>"Everyone in China wants to remove the female MC">actually it's not that many and people are saying it would be retarded to do it as well>"y-yeah I never said everyone wanted to do it!"So what's the fucking point of discussing what they "want" when they all have different opinions?
>>1449004They want male MC, so all female characters are for (them). They don't want male playable/important NPC because it may hurt their harem experience.They don't want female MC because the (them) pandering will be ambiguous because of gender.This. I spell it out for you. I don't know how to explain it further.
>>1449000>label it as an incel game.Yeah too bad they didn't learn from Nikke bombing hard. Oh wait it's actually doing more than fine. The only ones who give a shit about a game being incel bait are you homos and twitterfreaks, so just you people basically.
>>1449002>Azur Promilia is "promising" an all female gacha so it's already partly gatekeeping people.that's not the ultimate gatekeeping though, what ML fags are suggesting for the game is legitimately harmful for what it tries to do and its production value scope, so in part i think what manjuu did was risky enough already
>>1449007>>"Everyone in China wants to remove the female MC"Ctrl+F EveryoneIt's only your post and >>1448995
>>1449011Yeah people in China also wants this to be a yuri games, what's your fucking point of spamming that some people in China want the game to be "X" for 300posts every thread?
>>1449009Actually labeling is the cause of "omnipandering" because Chinese can play a game with sexy designs saying "well there are 2 male characters in this game it's not for otaku".Time flies. People giving less shit about labeling. Gender conflicts in omnipandering games accelerate. Game communities start to explode.That's why game companies were having "Paris Peace Conference".
>>1449012>Yeah people in China also wants this to be a yuri gamesLight yuri can exist in harem when both girls' main interest is still the MC, which is also popular in Japan though?Anyway, those people have one clear objective and it's to gatekeep females because they're cancer.If the game doesn't gatekeep they can just choose not to play a game that potentially corrupt. They aren't slurpers anymore.
I don't see the point of all this when 0 character interaction has been shown so far.
>>1449016Maybe they shouldn't even start to play the game in the first place if they see a trailer where they clearly are marketing to be able to play a female MC and then they seethe and whine they should remove that.That's like saying they should remove pokémons from pokémons because i don't like it.This game isn't Azur Lane, it's an entirely different game. If they don't like what they game clearly advertise as they should just fuck off. It's that simple, not everything has to pander to them.It would be an entirely different thing if all these decisions has not been made yet, but they are trying to force the creators to change a product because they want them to pander to them
>>1449012>ants this to be a yuri gamesthat's overblown, normal chinks want an harem game but the girls to have more personality than just drooling the mc
>>1449020>want an harem game but the girls to have more personality than just drooling the mcThat's an oxymoron
>>1449018>shouldn't even start to play the game in the first placeThe game isn't out yet. I mean that's what they are going to do if the game indeed isn't for them.Unlike western people who just let the game industry to rot they unironically voice their opinion. You can say they are butthurted or seething all you want but if they have to speak aloud for marketing researchers to know their existence.You don't just wait and hope for something tailor made for you.It's funny to see western people can freely speak against government but fail to excel freedom of speech in other sectors.
>>1449021no? light harem if you will
>>1449022>You don't just wait and hope for something tailor made for youThere's COUNTLESS of harem games for them to consume, instead of playing one of those countless games they want to turn this games into yet another copy of that.It's exactly like I said, they are seething because the devs dare to create a game that isn't 100% pandering them.
>>1449021I think he should called it flavors but you don't have to fixate into the term "personality" and fail to understand the argument.
>>1449024There's no harem open world.If you ask Genshin slurpers why won't they play other games they'd just tell you it's not open world.Same logic applies.
>>1449026>If you ask Genshin slurpers why won't they play other games they'd just tell you it's not open world.What the fuck do you mean by this?I see a trailer for a game they advertise, they clearly show that the game features a female MC and lots of girls. Now retards and seething and whining because they hate the fact there might exist people that don't want to play as a twink male character.I'm not the one demanding the devs to stray away from their vision and create an entirely different game, this is no different than if a company would listen to Reddit and do whatever they tell them to (which is why the state of western games are so bad).If you don't want to consume the product that is advertised, just don't play it. It's that easy.I don't play harem self-insert games because they are shit to me and I don't demand the devs to change the games to pander me, I simply just fuck off from the game.
>Snowbreak is a massive successShit is getting mogged by AL, a png collector.
>>1449028They WANT better MC as well because twink is gonna attract females.
>>1449029Compared to where they were before? Yeah, its a success.
>>1449029>Downloaded and installedI will fix her.
>>1449029Most of Snowbreak's revenue is from PC. AL has no PC version.
>>1449029stop with these charts, these are literal dude trust me charts that compare literal rankings on app stores, nothing to do with revenue, both games might as well be much higher or lower.
What the "moderate" faction wants:>the game to stay as all female gacha>keep the female MC because partially they like her instead of the male mc, self inserting for them is not priority>to be as welcoming as possible without breaking the all female gacha principle and without cuckshit etc etc so it can get as much money as possible to be as high quality as possiblewhat the "ML" faction wants:>complete lockdown of the community into male territory and the game to pander as hard as allowed>move the female MC into another character for the male MC>but somehow keep the production quality high despite a deep cut into potential player reach?I can only see the ML proposal working if this game wasn't going to release in China, just like Nikke which is not released on china officially because its very ero, but its just utter insanity to ask for hard male pandering in a game that is already pre-censored, and be glad manjuu took their time to wait for the ccp approved spats before showing anything otherwise there wouldn't be much of a thread right now.
>checked snowbreak thread>they're about to add touch interactions to their dormI see...so this is fear...
>>1449039I agree more with moderate faction but the extreme faction do have legit concern given past examples.
>>1449039And also be glad Manjuu only got a slap on the wrist for their designs, Genshin got much more censored for less.
>>1449046>Genshin got much more censored for less.Unironically because of female players.They mass reported the female characters so much of 1.0 designs got nerfed.
>>1449042These concerns are overblown, if Manjuu releases the game with the "moderate" approach most people would still play it but Manjuu would be walking on thin ice as they already experienced the march 21 review bomb, that alone gives me the guarantee that they will ignore and femcel complaint and any ML complaint as well trying to spoil the rest of the community, its a win win. All forums, NGA, Tieba, Weibo have a sizable amount of moderates, that's why all these altercations are happening.
>>1449040Based.
Manjuu is just waiting to see how Wuthering Waves goes. If it flops, as most people seem to expect it to, they will 100% go full male pandering.
>>1449066It will not flop...until ZZZ releases that is.
>>1449029>meme mobile chartDevs already said 70% of the sales that comes from Snowbreak is from PC>>1449066>>1449077WuWa is already a flop and i see less hype for that trash than ToF at the time. WuWa also have the problem of trying to get genshin playerbase at the same time it wants to pander to the hardcore players, there is no way this is going to end well when Genshin playerbase is a bunch of braindead casuals and the cherry on top is that their first 2 banners is homo banners
>>1449085Now that you mention it yeah ToF had so much more hype pre-release
>>1448662>fanservice is quickly approaching AL levelskek, they are not even close, not even halfway there. When they give the girls jerking off animations, or being plapped from behind, then they may be getting close.
>>1447936You fucking asshole OP, you didn't even post a crossthread link in the last one I had no idea this was up until now.
>>1449132negro no one fucking agrees to make recurring threads in the first place so blame yourself for not looking it up.
>>1449066>>1449085WW is going to go the Aether Gazer route once they fail to get the genshinfags, they'll amp up the fanservice.
>>1449132you can't do that on /vmg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGBMT7NwQTosurprise at the end
>>1449039>despite a deep cut into potential player reachAlready happened when they confirmed no bishes for the possible female playerbase.
>>1449066Manjuu already promised all female playable cast, it's already 100% male pandering. Any female playing the game would be an anomaly just like a guy playing otome game.>>1449039They really need to stop listening or entertaining the extreme faction because those people are insane and they legit will tank this game with their endless whining about the smallest things. Like a girl will talk to a NPC and they will scream NTR.
>>1449143Man, my hype for ZZZ deflated at light speed, not only after the censorship fiasco but the game is so featureless. The only thing it has going for is the top quality animations and cut scenes, Mihoyo should just make it an online series.
>>1449140retard
>>1449143How is that a surprise? This is the most hyped game I have seen in ages. No other game aside from genshit got this much attention from a single trailer. If they stick to their guns and deliver it is going to be the first true competition.
>>1449153>Like a girl will talk to a NPC and they will scream NTR.Falseflag concern troll. No one says this. This is not what causes people to get upset.
>>1449163>This is the most hyped game I have seen in ageson the interwebs? surebut wuwa has all the hype now from most circles outside of the gacha interweebz
>>1449166>wuwalollmaobro you need to stop huffing the copium. It's already DOA.
>>1449166Good, stay contained. Spend a thing or two even.
>>1449039If the keep they go dual mc or single mc is irrelevant, most normalfags ultimately don't care about MCs in gachas from because they shit in terms of gameplay(if they are even playable) and they largely do nothing but stand there like a camera guy. Gachas don't have MC focused stories like FF/Tales/Ys.etc because the stories are used to shill the gacha cast. Most of the bad actors that ML side is worried about is filtered by the lack of playable males and would likely fuck off to Wuwa if they even leave GI. I see myself more in the middle of the two as yurinigs aren't that bad when the girls are for (you) so as long as they aren't shipping the girls with each other like Oyohim then we will be fine but on the other hand I am tired of manlet MCs and do nothing MCs so if the ML side does win and we get a cooler MC that does shit then I will also see it as a win.>>1449153Men exist in Nikke and hell moege VNs and nobody is threaten by them, I feel like this complaint is overblown.
>>1449168just because you don't see anyone talk about PAD on 4chan doesn't mean its not a multi million dollar per month phenomenon, you really can't see beyond your personal bias bubble
>>1449172I'm digging your grave right next to TOF, you'll need it soon enough.
>>1449165Bro, those type of people got upset because BA is collaborating with Mahjong Soul. They think it's NTR. Imagine that. Manjuu should not entertain them or GFL2 controversy (which was overblown by schizos btw) will also happen in AP.>>1449171The silver lining of Nikke not being released in China : freedom from Chinese schizos.
>>1449177It is NTR because BA is getting nothing out of it, it's a one sided collab which is fucking retarded.
>BroFiltered.
>>1449179BA players are fucked over by the collab, but it's not NTR. But I see even this thread is not free from "everything is NTR" crowd.
>>1449143>Arknightsi know it is his bias, but are AK players excited for Endfield? combat looks REALLY stiff
>>1449181You just want to play semantics games. BA players are getting screwed, call it cucked, call it NTR, call it whatever you want. The entire argument is just a strawman to avoid the fact that you are trying to downplay legitimate concerns that players have due to a long history of games treating the main player base who has supported them since the beginning badly.
>>1449184Still not "NTR" no matter how much you try to equate "getting treated badly by the game company" with "NTR". "NTR" would be them introducing a new male character to fuck your girls in front of you. Calling bad treatment of players "NTR" just cheapens the impact of that word and signifies you're arguing in bad faith.
>>1449186>more semantics gamesI can see you aren't interested in having a real conversation. Enjoy your hollow victory it's too late to argue with you anymore.
>>1449177>those type of people got upset because BA is collaborating with Mahjong SoulHow is that related to Azur Promilia characters talking to NPCs? These two situations are not even remotely similar
>>1449183At least i don't, as soon as i saw the far future plot they're going with.
>>1449183Both combat and exploration look like shit, all the autists played the beta test literally spent most of their time min maxing the base building instead.
>>1449153>>1449177So true sis, AP should try to be like genshin and HSR and have every female shipped with male, KYS fucking retard
>>1449188>>1449189The topic is about how Manjuu must gatekeep undesirable fans from poisoning the well before it's too late, and people who equate getting treated badly by a game company with "NTR" are included among those.
>>1449191>and explorationdoesn't even look like open world at all, which mind you, its not a bad thing
>>1449193lol you literally proved his point
>hiskek now that you lost you resort to samefag, pathetic.
>>1449194Nope, I don't get your point at all.
>>1449194Poisoning the well from what? you will get bad actors no matter what happens, its a competition for public attention after all, the only thing that can only be poisoned are the developers themselves in that case that was a battle lost from the very beginning
>>1449199They're in for a rude awakening once the extreme faction mention by this anon >>1449039 takes hold and destroy AP GFL2-style. Shame because I actually like this game's gameplay and graphics. Oh well.
What's wrong with pandering to males and females? If there is a female and male main character why can't the female main character have romantic interests as well? What is the harm in that?
>>1449200That you made a logical leap beyond what was argued and made an strawman of yourself? lmao even you can't even argue to save your life.
>>1449203t. raymonddon't believe his lies
>ieslbnot replying to you faggot.
>>1449208I still think the Raymond controversy was waaaay overblown. Daiyan gave (You) a tootbrush instead of chocolate for Valentine's and schizos made a meme about her brushing Raymond's cum off her pussy with the toothbrush before giving it to (You). That's legit insane and I don't know how game developers could cope having to deal with certain "fans".
I really can't wait when one of the girls talks to their male mentor / guild master / military superior etc and the /vg/ thread becomes unusable for a week.
>>1449210You're ignoring mountains more to the story because you want to take potshots at the evil incels keeping you from enjoying your omnipandering games. You are not arguing in good faith, you are the poison that needs to be gatekept from these games. It's a shame that there are always people like you poisoning the wall.
>>1449209Not like you have an ounce of gray matter in your chimp skull to debate in good faith anyways.
>>1449204As if you haven't seen the yurifag constantly baiting in these threads
Schizos like you is why its so fun to yuri bait btw.
>>1449214It was a legitimate question. We're going on 6k+ posts now over these threads and 80% of them have been arguing a single point. They have two main characters and that isn't changing. So if they both are going to exist in the game then they logically will pander to both.
>AAAIIIEEE JUDGE HE'S SLANDERING MEEEcry more.
>>1449212The "mountains more to the story" was just a lump of sand from the perspective of outsiders.You think people are invested in GFL2 cuckoldry drama because they wanted to make a statement against game developers?Chinese schizos who interpret everything as NTR, and game developers who reaped what they sowed by fostering schizos in their community.People are laughing at both sides.
>>1449221>from the perspective of outsidersThis is embarrassing, all you do is weasel around hoping people won't notice your bullshit.
>>1449222You can't just call it weaseling and not tell why, actually try.And also how it is incorrect that chinks blow everything out of proportion? i really wonder what would /bag/ tell you if you went there and tried to talk into them that yostar fucked them up.
>>1449221No it was absolutely terrible. It was so bad, they may as well have had the girl go out and tell players to kill themselves (which they did through a... Nigerian book. About colonialism and subversion.)
>>1449222As long as Azur Promilia devs keep doing what they've been doing (apologizing for minor mistakes, bowing down to the schizo crowd, restraining their own creativity, trying to pass schizo purity tests out of fear of getting GFL2'ed), this game will never take off. It's that simple.
>>1449204>>1449217>What's wrong with pandering to females?>GenshinCensored and cuckbait with 0 male pandering, thanks to female fanbase>Azur LaneCensored thanks to female fanbase>Honkai impactCensored thanks to the female fanbase>ZZZCensored thanks to the female fanbase>GBFRuined thanks to the female fanbase>Honkai Star RailCensored thanks to the female fanbase with almost none pandering to male playersAnd you now what is funny? Every Chink gacha mentioned in the list was reported by the female fanbase the CCP and you never see a man crying because a male character is sexualized, but women and faggots? ALWAYS cry if a female character have any remotly fanservice>>1449225You dont even play BA faggot shut up
>>1449228Don't be too much of a worrywart, they'll be fine
>1449228>As long as Azur Promilia devs keep doing what they've been doing (apologizing for minor mistakes, bowing down to the schizo crowd, restraining their own creativity, trying to pass schizo purity tests out of fear of getting GFL2'ed), this game will succeedSo true, can't agree more.
>>1449229apparently neither the entirety of /bag/ plays BA either if they are telling you to fuck off with your headcanon
>>1449229>AL>Censored thanks to female fanbaseNot true in the slightest.
>>1449233Yeah it was censored because of the CCP, but most of the other examples are true.
Sorry, xisters, but omnipandering is dead. Hoyoverse and a handful of other already established big names already have that market on lockdown. For everyone else, their best option is to return to the market they've been neglecting for years now, straight males. The era of the waifufag begins anew.
>>1449234arknots but thats a story for another day
>>1449235I will never trust the so called """waifufags""" after they failed Last Origin, arguably the most ecchi (borderline hentai with the existence of dev-approved nude mod) gacha in the market.
>>1449237>dogshit gameplay, shit (no) translation, hideous proportion girls that only appeals to niche fetishistsYeah can't fathom why it failed.
>>1449239Yeah but Tower of Fantasy totally failed because they omnipander like Genshin
>>1449237Looking at it, yeah. I can see why that shit died. Either way, you have my condolences if it's a game you enjoyed. I know what it's like to play a game up to the moment the servers close forever.
>>1449237Legit question, how much do you think they failed in other aspects?
>>1449241And the first two wuwa banners are confirmed faggots. Who do you think that is going to appeal to?
>>1449241ToF failed because the dev never decided on what kind of game they were making.
>>1449237Yeah not like I couldn't pay with my credit card on DMM, blocked gajin IP or the game was never translated to english or have global release (and no the last time I tried the regedit thing it wouldn't work)>>1449239>hideous proportionsTake that back fucking faggot because Hirume is my favorite Bioroid
>>1449244Women and fags, but as far as I know the second banner used to be Yinlin (a woman) until fans complained they were unsatisfied.
>>1449247>Take that back fucking faggot because Hirume is my favorite BioroidI'm not saying they were all bad, I didn't even play the game. But I saw plenty posted in different gacha generals and most of them looked really bad. I'm sure some people love that over exaggerated look but it was a complete turn off for me. Made me not even want to consider giving the game a chance. I'm fully in the camp that games should cater first and foremost to straight males. That has always been the majority audience and always will be. But niche games will always be niche, and the only way to get a bigger slice of the male audience pie is to make good quality games that appeal to them. Genshin was lightning in a bottle and grabbed the normalfag audience. Most of these other games won't do that, if they try to cater to faggots like wuwa is doing they are going to learn some hard lessons.
>>1449248Because she was dogshit bad from what I heard. It's still insane that they think starting the game with a twink faggot banner is going to win them any points. inb4 genshin did it. Apples and oranges, whats his name was a cute shota and gamebreakingly meta at the time so a lot more people were willing to roll for him. Wuwa's we have CuCallain at home is not going to win the hearts or minds of anyone but the most normalfag of males.
>>1449251They simply think people would just roll on standard banner like they did in HSR and Genshin. It's a daring gamble. Whether it'll pay off we'll see.
>>1449251>twinkYou mean the green guy with the spear? He doesn't look like a twink. One one of wuwa's males looks like a twink. I don't think they're trying to appeal to fags so much as they're trying to do a serious "mature" story.
>>1449254All chinese males are twinks, there is no such thing as a traditional masculine male character in chinese games.
>>1449255I mean, sure. The guy has tassel earrings and that long ass, faggot ass ponytail, but his build is not twinkish in the slightest. He's too muscular and his face is too intense.
>>1449255If he is a twink, then the MC is a shota (MC is even scrawnier and shorter)
>>1449257>the MC is a shotaNow there's an idea for a harem gacha...
Wuwa is going hard for the fujo/otome bucks, paypigging trivializes the game which fujos/otomes do and the male mc looks like your average kpop star.
>>1449262>Wuwa is going hard for the fujo/otome bucksNot with those dog water designs, they're not.
>>1448898>virgin dbwhat is this?>>1448897more like>What is the reason to change the popular games to match one's preference?yurifags in a nutshell.>>1448965>american timezone>still pushing his narrativeyou're proving him right. you're coping like a hoyotard and it's not a good look. not to mention the mental toll on you to be acting like a battered wife. incidentally if you were going to say he faked his timezone you need to be put in a mental ward
>>1449217>We're going on 6k+ posts now over these threads and 80% of them have been arguing a single point.it's all so tiresome boss...
>>1449271It really is, I hope yellow chicken just makes a decision and gives us more info so we can put it to rest and talk about something else I'm sick of the same arguments back and forth
Snogger here. I would appreciate it if you guys could convince your dev to add playable males and shipshit to your game so my game can monopolize the horny incel gamer market. Thanks.
>>1449274i'm going to rape fritto
>>1449274>incelNice falseflag trannie, at least try to be more believable next time faggot
>>1449274You will still have to pass over nikke and ba for that
>>1449275Not if she rapes you first.>>1449276>t-trannieAm I wrong thobeit? I myself am a gacha dev's best friend, an adult male with low impulse control, some amount of disposable income, and no gf.
>>1449279stfu falseflagger, go back to twitter trannie
>>1449279can't rape the willing
>>1449214I only see harem schizos shitting up the threads
>>1449274sczoCHAD....i kneelalso please tell them to fix the cel shading
>>1449274Yeah, monopolize the horny gamer market... With 10% of Nikke/BA income>but PC salesFine, 30%
>>1449183Gives me early 00s MMORPG vibe. I dig that.
>>1449229>>GBF>Ruined thanks to the female fanbaseFuck Sandalphon
>>1449274Game seriously needs some fine tuning, the coom changes are nice and all, but queueing up for coop, and sitting there for 5 mins trying to kill bullet sponge cardboard box enemies got boring quick. Good gameplay is still required and nikke wins on that front
>>1449285They tweaked the renderer a few patches ago. My only pet peeve with character models now is the outline that looks weird sometimes.>>1449286snowbreak went from the verge of EoS to making millions after shifting to becoming a harem game. It's only a matter of time before their star eclipses all others.
>>1449257>>1449262Still don't know why they couldn't make him as tall as the other dudes?
>>1449228surethey should also add males and pander to fujohomos to take off, right?
>>1449289>nikke>good gameplayIs this a joke?
>>1449291so chinks can relate to him.
>>1449290Meh, Snowbreak's audience will all shift to Azur Promilia.
>>1449293not really, there are few well-designed boss fights but the rest are boring.
>>1449295The only game that has to worry about AP right now is wuwa, being another open world action combat gacha.
>>1449291they need more belts
>>1449297Wuwa will have normalfags to keep it on life support. But if otakus leave Snowbreak for AP, Snowbreak will be doomed.
>>1449299>Wuwa will have normalfagsAnd then Natlan releases.......
>>1449293early-mid game content, sure you can go to sleep, but high end solo raid, high end guild raids, overclock, past chapter 20, all require you to plan team comps, build chars, and actually play. it's very engaging for a mobile game, sure it's not genshin, or doom eternal but it beats most mobile games.
>>1449299But there's no need to cause infighting.
>>1449299Normalfags are already playing genshit. How can you say wuwa is going to snatch up normalfags when the general opinion about its designs is that they're boring? wuwa has a steep uphill battle.
>>1449302>sure it's not genshinBitch, are you saying genshin has good gameplay now? I'm I being punk'd? Where are the cameras?
>>1449114
>>1449308
>>1449307It's mostly dull and the fun factor came from dealing big numbers.
>>1449301>>1449304The thing about normalfags is that they're really spread out not just in Genshin but other games. They play Genshin, Arknights, FGO, Naruto, Dragon Ball, Puzzle and Dragons, etc. Same reason why ToF is still living on life support after losing bad to Genshin. But it's different with otaku-centered games, once they lose their audience it's hard to find new ones and they just go flat EoS like Priconne.
>>1449270No one other than the game company itself can change the game.And they decide base on market research and their orientation in the market.I won't change my preference to play their games. And the game companies can decide whose bucks to take. It's fair game. I lose nothing if they don't pander to me. I just keep my money for other games I like.
>>1449310
>>1449317>arknights>FGOWhat exactly do you think a normalfag is?
>>1449291Right, seeing this roster I am convinced it aims at women.
>>1449320There is no arbitrary standard, but for me if you can admit to playing something in public without feeling ashamed, it's a normalfag game. If someone would shame you, it's an otaku game.
>>1449295The problem for Azur Promilia... MC is not fixed as male.AP will never surpass Snowbreak in term of (you) pandering. AP has cuter designs though.
>>1449229Female fanbase?You know Mihoyo celebrated how many female employees it had as well as how a female writer destroyed X2 Eclipse and cucked all its players. The bigger cause of the problems is radical feminist game developers. Manjuu probably has the best female game developers in China, and I believe they won't create as much drama as Mihoyo.>Azur Lane>Censored thanks to female fanbaseThis is wrong. You may say chink women reported to CCP, but female Azur Lane players/fans? You would be delusional to think it's true.
>>1449322retard.
>>1449322Nobody is looking at your phone lol.
>>1449299I will play both Snowbreak and AP. Whoever panders hardest will get my money though. If anything AP has convinced me to finally drop HomoImpact even though I've been playing since day 1 and I've never felt better about it and I don't have much interest in WuWa.>>1449317Priconne EN (And other gachas) fucking died because of crunchyroll and their shit pacing of the game, JP is still going strong. Seriously fuck crunchyroll, any gacha that they take is already on death row.
>>1449322Interesting take. Retarded, but interesting.
>>1449325>X2 Eclipse and cucked all its playersQrd?
>>1449327Sure but I wouldn't want to get caught with fat butt shaking on my screen in public
>>1449317>they just go flat EoS like Priconneretard
>>1449332Nig music videos always have giant asses in full display.
>>1449325How Mihoyo managed to be so successful with 40% female employee should be a case study
>>1449307i have played >azur lane>fgo>outerplane>gfl>neural cloud>path to nowhere>evertale>blue archive>iron saga>doaxvvall to endgame with whale or dolphin accounts,and have played to some degree>tof>brown dust 2>hi3>final gear>higan erythll>aether gazer>PGR>and more i can't remembername a mobile game that has better gameplay than genshin, because from what i've seen 90% of mobile games are collect characters, then afk 99% of the content, with the occasional fight that requires you to play
>>1449328AP might be too whimsical for my tastes so wuwa could end up as my side game. I'm already playing a (you) pandering game so something that takes itself a little more seriously would be fine by me.
>>1449337why people keep posting this meme twitter account?
>>1449337It's called, dropping a massively hyped gacha during a pandemic where billions of people around the world were forces to stay indoors for 2 weeks and had nothing better to do than fool around on their phones/consoles.also, sunk cost.
>>1449341and Honkai Star Rail?
>>1449338I had more fun with GBF then with Genshin.
>>1449338>name a mobile game that has better gameplay than genshinhonkai, for one.
>>1449299You have to browse NGA to know what "normalfags" in China are like. It's not what you have in the west.Omnipandering took off because young generation (post kankore generation) need to play games with hot women but they are afraid of the opinion of the surrounding. By playing games having both gender they can just pretend they are not otaku.Then more women join the party and gender conflict increase (Zhongli buff incident, censorship incident). Eventually those people realize they will never have peace with each other.Communities heat up and more and more "normalfags" are hating the idea of omnipandering. Also Genshin became popular ease the fear of being view as otaku by playing all female gacha. (General public would have no idea and just assume it's similar)It's complicated and year long development of situation. You can't just say oh normalfags will just keep playing, without understanding what's actually happening.
>>1449325what do females, niggers, poojeets and grasshoppers have in common? they're largely harmless when few and far inbetween, but put enough of them together and they'd be emboldened enough to chimp out.manjuu doesn't have "good" women, they have little women, likely compartmentalized, all kept in their place.
>>1449342>from the makers of genshin impact!
>>1449337They hire more after they became successful.Actually though Genshin starts to lose revenue around Sumeru. Probably when the women hires increased.
>>1449348That doesn't explain how Star Rail used to flop at launch (Nikke used to be top 2 in global) but nowadays Star Rail is number one while Nikke fell hard.
>>1449343supplemental damage was a mistake.
>>1449351Xir, HSR is on anniversary and double bonus reset.
>>1449351It's a turn based game.
>>1449351Nikke used to beat Genshin every month, now it's bellow 15M
>>1449360This was probably during the mass release of males.
>>1449055God hates fags and so do I. We could've gotten this for most anime girl games if not for those mistakes.
>>1449350sumeru was when the game went to shit and they started covering up the girls, and making them weak in game, and releasing mostly meta male characters. really shows how women shit up the workplace. inazuma was truly peak for the game.
>Censored skins released at Inazuma>It's Sumeru fault reeeeeeeeeeholy schizophrenia
>>1449291>no ugly bald fatties to self-insert intoI am convinced it aims at women
>>1448905>buzzwordI dunno man, people sending death threats because a girl in an eroge is not a virgin and had a boyfriend in the past.. are mentally ill. What else would they be?This isn't some kinder garden shit. It's explosive crap that can kill a small company before you know it. If you don't know what this is about, don't talk. Some 4 chan idiots are harmless, because they may spam and be annoying, but they don't go out there and try to knife Da Wei because of bunny suits, or do other extremely mentally ill things.
>>1449378I dunno, man. Maybe these writers should know who they're writing for and stay in their lane.
>>1449302>require you to plan team comps, build chars, and actually playthats literally every mobile gameit doesn't mean its good gameplay
>>1449346>shilling Zhongli buff incident as gender conflictThe normalfags picked up genshit in 1.0 back when the early banners were dominated by twinks and males (Venti, Childe, Zhongli) and back when the meta was shared between male and female characters. Then the "normalfags" came in during Inazuma where female characters took over the meta and started malding about not being catered to when Sumeru and Lyney, whose design was shown since Sep 2020, were released
I just hate trannies, fags, and women. I don't want them playing my game. That's all.
>>1449388
>>1449388holy fucking based
>>1449386He isn't talking about the west.
>>1449386>during Inazuma where female characters took over the meta >Ignoring Kazuha, who is still meta over Ayaka and Raiden to this day.
>>1449270>you're proving him right>himI know its you so don't pretend. You are a retard and no matter how hard you try to push this dumb ntr narrative, it does not fucking work
>>1449386Ganyu was the first female meta and it's consider powercrept at that time.
>>1449394I'm talking about chink communities. There was no gender conflict back in 1.x even when the game was shilling male characters.>>1449395This is referring to the meta in 2.x characters where it's female-dominated (Ayaka, Raiden, Yelan, Kokomi).
>>1449411Read again>Omnipandering took off because young generation (post kankore generation) need to play games with hot women but they are afraid of the opinion of the surrounding. It's not coincidence some of the best designs are in standard banners. (Mona, Jean)
>>1449411Inazuma did irreparable damage to the game.
>>1449417I'm sure hoyo can wipe their tears with the fat stacks they're making.
>>1449386we may have an insider in mihomo, they will make a comeback>navia is meta dps>xianyun huge ass>chevy lewd tights>chiori nice pantsu designi have my hopes up bros
>>1449422>>chiori nice pantsu designthats the same spats everyone else wears you mindbroken slave
>>1449417Why are you here?
>>1449422>this is good pantsu designHoyofags are so buckbroken it's almost sad to see.
>>1449383>these writers should know who they're writing for and stay in their lane.This is the reason game companies are eager to leave that lane ASAP
>>1449442>implying shippers never harass anybody
>>1449452They're less rabid. Not to the point of trying to knife Dawei
>>1449457Waifufags are mentally ill.
>>1449458Majority waifufags are sane. There are also insane fujos and yumes out there. But the extreme/insane waifufags could endanger your life.
>>1449457>>1449458>One (Uno) case>"Whoa...They are insane"
>>1449474well? how many otomes tried to knife dawei now?
>>1449476fujos work differently bro, men=psychopaths, women=sociopaths, women will destroy people socially, emotionally and economically, just look at any divorced man
>>1449478>whataboutismhow many of them knifed dawei again? how many cats killed? yeah
>>1449478The schizos (men) who accused GFL2 writers of NTRing them destroyed them socially, emotionally, and economically.
>>1449482>reading comprehensionwomen are killing the game, you know revenue? his economic status, you missed my point. men work through force while women work through manipulation
>>1449484>you know revenue?68 million dollars last month, mihoyo shifted demographics, betrayed their original fanbase, sure but waifufags at the end of the day got out bid and this is more of an issue about waifufags never being really an unified camp and causing more trouble that they are worth.
>>14494820
>>1449229>Censored thanks to female fanbase>Censored thanks to female fanbase>Censored thanks to female fanbaseYou forgot to mention who's doing all the censoring : Chinese male boomer politicians. Instead of blaming females, Chinese incels should confront their fathers and grandfathers who made the laws.
>>1449485>we want the fujo audiencewomen are fickle, and have zero loyalty, all it takes is a new hot game to overtake them, and mihoyo will go back to irrelevance, heck even blizzard was invincible once. it's only a matter of time. i would never hedge my bets on women, we can already see their decline and every developer is gunning for them
>>1449489>all it takes is a new hot game to overtake them, and mihoyo will go back to irrelevanceafter the disaster that was sumeru the numbers barely plunged and then you have star rail as well, if waifufags are so tired of mihoyo how come it makes 100m usd (in china only) on female banners? are you telling me this "minority" is spending extra to make up for the "mayority" of harem schizos lost?
>>1449487delet this
>>1449229>you never see a man crying because a male character is sexualizedHahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAChinkcels and gookcels seethe nonstop over Sumeru and Fontaine male characters to this day. Not to mention 90% of male gacha characters might as well be wearing burkas when compared to their female counterparts.
>>1449482how can you complain about whataboutism then do it yourself?
>>1449489>women are fickle, and have zero loyaltyMoidcels are the ones who consistently abandon their """"""waifu"""""" for the next fotm girl that comes along. You wouldn't need to always swipe, beg and bitch for more rolls otherwise.
news?
>>1449495because we were talking about waifufags in the first place, thou shalt not commit logical fallacies.
>>14494892 more weeks!
>because w-ACK
>>1449492>>1449498So I take it your just here to shitpost then?
>>1449489Men are more disloyal because since ancient times they're hardwired to "conquer new women"
>>1449506how is >>1449498 incorrect again? how can you call whataboutism to the literal topic in question? lol
>>1449506I had /vmg/ on index view and saw a retarded post that I wanted to award a (You) to.
>>1449509>>1449512Well from what I see it's two Oyohims seething about waifufags in a bishoujo game thread.
>>1449487>>1449491I believe the ones over the regulations are female.
>>1449513You can't even hold a conversation lol lmao even
>>1449516Dude I am not that faggot you where slinging your dick with, take your fuck buddies and fuck off.
>>1449508>zoomer logicyes, they played gachas back in babylon on their ipads. all those spinsters that never had children because gilgamesh was obssessed with digital waifus like ishtar.
>>1449517SEE? You get btfo and then you start talking about gay sex KEK LMFAO
>>1449519It's the only languague genshitters understand.
>>1449457HI3 is a yuri game.
>>1449515The CCPPD is in charge of Censorship. The head is Li Shulei, a male boomer. If you want to go higher, Xi Jinping the dictator of China is male.
>>1449522Maybe they're homos.
>>1449489>women are fickle, and have zero loyalty, all it takes is a new hot game to overtake themThat's partially what happened to GBF.
>>1449513>gets refuted>U MAD LOLOLI accept your concession. Keep seething over omen and male characters while insisting that you aren't.
>>1449525>Playing that chrome chibi mmo in 2024Time to do your GW btw
>>1449526>Keep seething over omen and male charactersThey are irrelevant to this game infact the bulk of the thread is offtopic bullshit about gender wars and Oyohim.
>>1449521The perpetrator is a male who felt NTRed by the fact that HI3 bunny girl costumes were only available outside China. During the controversy Chinese incels made a drawing of HI3 waifus getting fucked in bunny suits by foreigners while they (Chinese) could only watch from outside the door.
>>1449529>male who felt NTRedGender of the perp doesn't matter as himedanshis are a thing and are likely the primary audience of HI3, hell alot of waifufags don't even play the game due to it's reputation as the yuri game.
>>1449530And yet if you were around during the time of controversy, the Chinese viral drawing depicted both the NTRed person and the foreigner fucking the waifus as men.
>>1449528True, this got only one reply >>1448974 that's how bad it is, people aren't hyped to this game they are using as vehicle to talk about cultural war shit.The harem schizo shitting up the thread will drop promilia at the first graphical glitch he encounters.
>>1449532Do you have a source of the perps motive? the >Chinese viral drawing depicted both the NTRed person and the foreigner fucking the waifus as men.Boohoo the west makes blacked for less.
So this is how things will look like until the game is out? Butthurt hoyotrannies trying to stir shit because they are feeling left out?
>>1449535Officials only stated that he attempted the murder over bunny suit controversy. After the incident HI3 removed the bunny suits entirely.
>>1449536It appears they see this game as more of a threat than WuWa.
>>1449537>waifufags make everything worse for everyone else>these are the people going after promilia nowGrim
>>1449538not really surprised, that one looks like shit
>>1449457notice how none of these ever happen with a real haremchad game? just goes to show how the average omnipandering faggot game are more likely to attract the mentally ill.
>>1449529why are chinks wierdly obssessed with ntr? i notice in their art, they are always portraying characters like type95 getting fucked by niggers, it's disturbing
>>1449537I don't see any confirmation that he felt NTR'd, Male yurifags overlap with purityfags so that is more likely then a run of the mill waifufag as HI3 is a yuri game first and formost.
>>1449534It's not just the harem schizo it's the /gig/ anti waifufag who is already out of place here anyways due to the lack of playable males and is only here to shitpost.
>>1449539Why are you here if you hate waifufags? Male or female they are the primary audience for this game.
>>1449538That's because it is. Just 2 minutes of the gameplay trailer and it is unbelievable how hard this game mogs Genshin in graphics. Much better shading, strong use of lights, reflective water, extremely vivid world colors that pop. It's literally Genshin but better.
>>1449543Except the controversy didn't stem from the bunny suits themselves. Everything was fine until it was announced that the costumes were only available for players outside China. Then all hell broke loose.
>>1449545Let me rephrase then "waifu schizos", i don't wanna call them MLs because that's a chink term
>>1449545
>>1449546I don't care about the grpahical side of things, like, at all, I only care about the gameplay/character stuff. Wuwa has ugly fujobait males, not even one male design that I'd consider "cool", its setting is just Liyue but high-tech and the gameplay is "genshin but faster"AP showed some decent female character and on top of being "faster genshin" has palworld elements and mounts
>>1449547>until it was announced that the costumes were only available for players outside ChinaYou are making up shit now, there were never any new costumes
>>1449485Female fanbase hop onto the dedicated otome game (the equivalent of waifugame if it's for men).While male fanbase are loyal (because of sunk cost) and still support the game.You can just look at sales volume of respective banner in Genshin and come into this conclusion.Well, I think your intention is to keep on lying that female fanbase bring more good than harm.
>>1449548Master love came from a fgo tag on pixiv.
>woke up>ctrl+f h*y*>19 results>ctrl+f g*nsh*n>38 resultsgrim
>>1449550That is cool, but the main draw of Genshin for many normalfags back in 2020 was that you could play an open world game that looked as nice as BotW for free and everyone was stuck at home during Covid so it was prime opportunity for them to try out the game and explore Teyvat.The world of AP looks way prettier than Genshin and seems like something that would be a lot more fun to explore. My biggest concern is that the game's areas are not nearly as big as even 1.0 Genshin on launch and people getting bored of exploring not even a week in. I hope we get a sizable portion of the map to play with whenever the game comes out, wouldn't mind waiting even longer to 2026+ if it means we'll get more content at launch. Best to make a strong first impression.
>>1449492>Not to mention 90% of male gacha characters might as well be wearing burkas when compared to their female counterparts>
>>1449529>>1449530>>1449542Nah chinks just thought they are betrayed by getting differential treatment.It's 4chan that can't describe the incident without using buzzword that they don't know.
>>1449551My bad, it was costumes for anniversary story event, only available for captains outside China. You can watch the deleted anniversary special video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s53PrcjzPQY>>1449542I found the viral image. Obviously the plump guy on the right is meant to depict the Chinese playerbase. The ripped dude on the left is meant to depict foreigners.
>>1449556I want to farm. I want the Rune Factory experience.
>>1449559>I found the viral imagepretty sure it was drawn by someone from /hig/ back then
>>1449559Such image was to shitpost. Majority just thought differential treatment is the behavior of betrayal.
>>1449560which
>>1449560Well... Farm as in agriculture?
>>1449566meant for >>1449565
>>1449556>My biggest concern is that the game's areas are not nearly as big as even 1.0 Genshin on launch and people getting bored of exploring not even a week inEven among the people that play genshit, they get bored a week after an update because the open world has no content, in some cases they jusst don't do it at all besides unlock domains/waypoints close to quest location. The less emphasis we put on empty "open world", the better
>>1449567*which one
>>1449563i can't read chink, please explain
>>1449492Also name one just one male that have gone censored/removed/changed because male fanbase, none right? meanwhile Rosaria,Mona,Noelle,Fischl,Jean,Yae,Ayaka and Shenhe are censored thanks to the female fanbase.
We will see how fast they release promilia, as a long time AL player i don't have high expectations of manjuu doing things smoothly for a game they are programming and publishing themselves while being this ambitious, only long time fans will get rewarded. Harem schizos will flock to the very next fotm by then.
>>1449538WuWa was never a threat, they made a complete mistake of having the starting location be in china with chinese sounding names and chinese-inspired culture. Nobody likes china. Even mihoyo knows better to make china the 2nd story arc. I believe Manjuu won't make the same mistake.
>>1449551Most people here are making shit up about the drama, the gift was a stigmata.
>>1449576There's a literal not china zone after the starting furrian area
>>1449574>NoelleWhat is even there to censor?
>>1449575I started playing AL right after 1st anni, (had the game installed on my phone since day one). People forget that AL was censored as fuck, barely any lewd characters, and GFL had waaay more fanservice. Almost zero pantyshots, and almost no bikinis. They went so safe I was disappointed, it wasn't until the second/third year they started ramping things up, and even then, they went on hiatus for a while and didn't even have bikini summer skins for an entire year. Only until recently, when sentiments are safe they became lewd. I expect the same from promelia. When revenue is low, they will start pandering, until then, they will be safe.
>>1449575I just hope that as they'll get more exp with 3D modeling and clipping manjuu will begin to increase milk size
>>1449573It's just Crab Mentality. Nothing too complicated.
>>1449583>oath>javelin>special interaction>that one with transparent clothing these has been there since day one.
>>1449522anyone who reports gets the axe. it's better to think of them as midwit redditors: "rational" individuals easily convinced by the worst pieces of logical reasoning you can think of. in cases like these the squeaky wheel gets the grease. but the base rationale has always been to not be sexually degenerate, ie. prostitution and LGBT fetish play, at least that's the impression I'm getting from osmosis.
>>1449522People in power don't fucking care. They fuck whatever they want. They don't need porn.
>>1449585Allegedly manjuu is having trouble right now making bazoongas jiggle without looking too funny. Maybe they will figure it out.
>>1449378>death threatskill yourself.>kill a small companyyes, that's the point. a compromised studio needs to go bankrupt than peddle more cuckbait that confuses innocent buyers and turn them into battered wives. yes, I'd rather a limited liability company go under and send a signal to cuck devs to get a real job than have real lives ruined and people made mentally ill.on the rational side, these players did not pay to be disrespected by the game's writers. you as a cuck may pay for it, but not to the tune of $60-100 for some 24 CG trash made over a weekend. you probably paid $0 for it. someone wageslaved at a japanese black company to pay for some faggot author living in a nation with no mental health care standards treating gamedev as his therapy session.>>1449404no, I'm still not him. I changed my mind, you need to be put on meds for life until someone sane gets voted in and we reinstate the death penalty.>>1449552reminds me of that wikipedia article posted in the threads.
>>1449378you got xim
>>1449596>death penalty because I don't fall for the schizo rambling of a chinese cockroachsomeones mad
>>1449600no, you need it for the schizophrenia. try to keep up
>>1449595I believe in their power and willingness to make it happen
>>1449603its kind of hard to keep up with a retard who tries to pretend to be 3, or is it 4 now, different people and DESPERATELY wants his ntr narrative to be taken seriously. Pick a lane and stay in it worm, or just hang yourself, you'll do us all a favor
>>1449605>can't keep up with the notion of multiple anonymous posters on an anonymous forumgo back to the place if you've been here from less than four days, unironically get a psych test otherwise
all me btw
>>1449606Right, so if I were to take you seriously, you responded to a different convo without anyone giving a damn about your opinion and the chink from before really did run away when I called out his fake screenshot.Samefag or not, I can't imagine why you'd want to drag this out
>>1449608because coming up with response takes no mental energy on my part. but you're right, I should stop
>>1449337What percentage of the company do you think was female when they hit it big in 2020?
>>1449204It's wrong because males and females want different things. In a general pandering game either females get shafted (brown dust 2, aether gazer) or males get shafted (Genshit, Honkai Shit Rail, Arknights). You can't have the shit Snowbreak is doing in an omnipandering game.Best example of this is Rune Factory which started pandering to females, so male players got shafted with half the number of marrigeable waifus, and eventually forced faggotry.
>>1449620This. Even if game dev only pander to males there are still different preferences within the male segment and not everyone will be happy.Omnipandering having the same problem but more severe. It easily evolves into cultural war between males and females.It was timed bomb and finally exploded in Chink communities.
>>1449378make gacha games, win gacha game prizesthey built their following on these subhumans and now they get to reap what they sow
>>1449620Wish i could steal brides again.
>>1448762>granblue are omnipandering franchises tooNot used too....
Who is the sluttiest Azur Promilia girl?
>>1449645FeMC
>>1449645Ur mum
>>1449642Granblue had Yumebait like Lancelot since launch.
>>1449645Blumine. God I want to plap plap plap her cute ass.
>>1449620>males and females want different things. In a general pandering game either females get shafted (brown dust 2, aether gazer) or males get shafted (Genshit, Honkai Shit Rail, Arknights). You can't have the shit Snowbreak is doing in an omnipandering game.Left is Genshin, right is Snowbreak.
>>1449672Damn. How is snowbreak as a game?
>>1449672You can touch pussies in both games...
>>1449674Mediocre TPS, samey events, bosses are decent, premium currency income is above average relative to other chinkslop, dps character power creep is minimal, dailies take less than five minutes but you have other things like event modes, co-op and a bad roguelite mode to spend more time in.
>>1449672Oof, Snowbreak is that desperate, huh
>>1449680Snowbreak is actually making more money now that they're ditching the prude crap from the early patches and giving fans what they want. Last time I checked the revenue was almost up to par with E7/HI3. With the next cooming update dropping soon, from what I've seen from CN reactions, the game's revenue could easily top HI3, not quite BA tier yet but getting close.>>1449677>Mediocre TPSDo you have any good TPS game for mobile? PUBG and COD mobile versions are trash, at least with Snowbreak I can get off to some cute anime girls.
>>1449688I don't play HI3 but I heard it's dumpster fire nowadays, and fans are leaving it en masse after the terrible reception of part 2. Should be easiest thing ever to beat HI3.
>>1449674Less bullet spongy version of The Division.Heard that it's easy game that you can clear it with free units.
>>1449677>>1449690That doesn't sound too bad. I'll give it a try to satisfy my coomer brain.
>>1449689>fans are leaving it en masseOnly the f2p crowd leave, the whales are still sticking around. The revenue's actually holding steady same as last year's. I quit playing after the Moon patch but I still check HI3 earnings now and then.>>1449690No power creep, which is a plus. You can get a free selectable 5* without pulling from the gacha and also there is another free 5* coming next patch (this >>1449672 the girl you can molest)
>>1449688>for mobilenta but I forgot what board I was on kekThe devs recommend playing snowbreak on pc but they added autoaim to the mobile version as a cope. It's still better to play on pc but at least mobile let's you basically cheese the game.
>>1449657Calm down, Bluether.
>>1449695nice ass
>>1449697that's frito's ass
>>1449697The devs mentioned they're thinking about implementing a feature like pic related in future updates (sleeping with your waifus). I really hope AL devs would do the same but judging that there is femc there's no fucking way they're gonna go for it.
>>1448755>btw I don't want a game to be popular. I just want a game that I enjoy.If your life service game isn't popular it will get shut down though. So yes, you should want it to be popular enough to ensure it doesn't get axed.
>>1449702>AL devs would do the samethey are doing the same...in AL
>>1449702I hope Azur Promilia adds the ability to breed with your waifus as well.
news soon
>>1449703I enjoy while it lasts. It's not like game living more than 3 years matter to me. I couldn't even play Genshin for more than 1 year.Having sunk cost and feeling it's investment is bad mentality.
>>1449694Should I just play in Asia server.EU seems dead.
>>1449703>muh insurance>muh popularitywhy are you even concerned
>>1449702Trying real hard to get me to play this fucking game and it is absolutely working. This being a reality would push my hand.
>>1449732They've already been adding interactable furniture for the girls. Interactable beds is just a matter of time.
Why is this thread full of roasties from the joseimuke thread complaining about waifufags/straight male pandering?
>>1449769Yurishitters/Mihomo faggots seething as usual and they have been repeating the same shit nonstop for multiple threads now, i just ignore all of them
>>1449672>>1449700>>1449702>>1449741Azur Promilia needs all this
>>1449810Sorry but best you're getting are non-canon romance lines on their character tab.
>>1449820That's to be expected though, its better than nothing.
>>1449820I honestly have faith in Manjuu. The industry is getting more and more competitive.
Which Azur Promilia girl is for (You)?
>>1449846Manjuu is a big bonus for my trust in this project.
>>1449741b-but imagine if the mocap actor is a dude...
>>144986099% chance it is, not only that, all the girls are actually a dude (the writer) talking to you.
>>1449862>character stays up all night shitposting on message boardsMore like the girls are written by literally me
>>1449680Game is barely making money after all.
>>1448762GBF fell off hard.
>>1449581She didn't have that ribbon blocking her tits in the beta.
>>1449648>>1449657>kisses all the girls in the game>has sex with her brother laterShe really is the sluttiest
>>1449915i would trade the rest of the cast being carpet munchers for unambiguous hot incest
>>1449055>>1449040Holy shit is this real? I'm fucking reinstalling.
>>1448694This picture is strange, it seems to want to highlight the same character and they have similarities but they are clearly different. The stockings on the girl in the picture stop near the top of the thighs while the one on the side go all the way up the butt. Also the hair on the one on the side is dark and slowly fades to blue while the one in the picture is pure blue. It's confusing.
Why do a lot of retards itt argue like there are any 3d games of note to compare? >x fags are fickle and won't support a harem game or a whatever gameAnd we know this how? The only gacha game of its kind in existence is genshin so far. There is nothing to compare it to. Claiming that harem fags won't support a 3d harem game because they jump around different gacha games is dumb. Because there is no precedent set yet for how a specific audience will react to competition in the 3d gacha market. Maybe sunk cost will be too strong and everyone will stay with genshin. Maybe everyone will abandon genshin and jump on each new one that comes out. Maybe a lot of people have been waiting for a 3d game that caters to men and will be loyal to it. We just don't know. But to claim that every game needs omnipandering because there isn't a market for men to support a game is downright asinine.
>>1449769It's the /gig/ anti waifufag he doesn't have any real interest in the game as he and those like him are not the target audience but instead is just here to shitpost about how much he hates waifus and waifufags in a bishoujo game thread.
>>1449929>>1449930
>>1449929Women being more social then men are far more likely to jump from game to game especially given they they tend to be more casual then hardcore.
>>1449925They are two completely different characters.They're both shown off in the gameplay trailer.
>>1449952Ah ok, it just seemed strange because they have a lot of similarities, so I was wondering if maybe it was a showcase of their evolution of character design or something.
>>1449929The spending market cap is a zero sum game.People that play a gacha and spend on it will have to spend less in their previous gacha to spend in the next one.The thing is: azur promilia is not broadening the market like genshin did (meaning: its not making a bunch of new people foreign to gacha enter the market) it can only take people that wasn't spending on a previous gacha or poach from existing gacha.You could say there's still a huge market for the game exactly because of all the new generation of gacha players that genshin created, the problem is it can't even take unassuming normalfags that would silently convert to waifu gachas but it looks like a game for that you wouldn't want to play in public, that for a full scale 3d game is a problem, not for a png collector that has much forgiving profit margins.
>>1449960>you wouldn't want to play in public>on a tiny ass phone screen.>when PC is an alternative K
>>1449960I somehow doubt a majority of genshin profits come from people who primarily play on their phones in public. That just doesn't happen a lot globally in general and in asia the stereotypical working man or student traveling on the train I don't see them caring much about what someone might see them playing. I don't think it will be that much of a problem getting people to switch over if AP ends up being a well designed and appealing game. Certainly they don't need to and absolutely shouldn't go for omnipandering. That is already captured by genshin. They have to break new ground and appeal to a different audience if they want any chance of long term success. As we've already seen women will already like it for the gameplay aspects of casual farming and pets. Leave the sex appeal to cater to the males and there you have your pseudo omnipandering without pissing off the main spending base.
>pandering to womenNo, you misinterpret me.This game is not aimed at "female players" this game is aimed at "female streamers" who play games and make content for their male audience, that's why women that reacted to promilia don't care about the lack of male characters, they already know how part of the gacha game ecosystem works.On the flip side Otome games in are unstreamable because women don't watch otome game streams much less female streamers unless its gossiping shit or female culture shit.
>>1449963The 'different audience' this game is trying to appeal is the same audience as their previous game, its the same audience that also has a disdain for open world games and are snooby for the most part, the day the trailers dropped most comments were dissing the game as a desperate genshin-palworld clone, only chinks sang praises for the game because of their current culture war.Tapping into this upset demographic that was betrayed by mihoyo is not a bad idea but that's only on china and they are indeed fickle and will revolt at the minimalest transgression, its a game that depends on catering to a very small vocal minority and all the competition fucking up, which lets be honest all this drama will be the catalyst for more hardcore harem pandering to appear and Azur Promilia will have to prove itself superior on its own merits rather than quenching the thirst of a passing crowd as competitors will start to pop up.
>>1449921You know how much money it costs right?
>>1449960you've been shitposting for two days straight retard, take your meds.
>>1449993Not an argument.
>>1449994Nobody is arguing fag, get lost.
>>1449929>The only gacha game of its kind in existence is genshin so far. There is nothing to compare it to. Claiming that harem fags won't support a 3d harem game because they jump around different gacha games is dumb.Snowbreak is the first. AP is the second.
>>1449998wrong genre
Some of the designs are bland, I've seen shoe laces with more personality than this.
>>1450001What do you mean wrong genre? Weren't we talking about "3d gacha market" which encompasses games from Genshin to Snowbreak, HSR, ZZZ, WuWa, ToF, and AP? Did the post specifically meant "Open world copy"? Because that's what you're implying.
>>1450013She's cute and am I getting tired of overdesigned loud shit that distracts from the natural beauty of the character. If every design was like that sure it might get boring but there are plenty with more flair. Nothing wrong with a few simpler designs.
>>1450015Snowbreak is an instanced 3rd person shooter, it has nothing in common with genshin and yes the implication was mmo style open world games.
>>1449934Yet Nikke went from 70-60 million per month to bellow 15 million per month, BA from 21m to 10m. lmao
>b-but muh revenue
>>1450021There is almost no reason to spend on a gacha game after a certain point. I spent a lot on nikke at first but after a year I can get everything I want free aside from maybe a costume every couple of months and even then I hardly bother. Every game loses profits over time that is perfectly normal. I'm sick of you normalfag tourists come in and shitting up every general comparing everything to genshit because it's all you know. You don't know shit about shit and all you do is shit on the floor and call it magic because dawai shat it out of his winnie the pooh shaped asshole.
>>1450013That's also what people said about blue archive at the beginning
>>1450021Nikke's fall from grace could be attributed to its boring gameplay. BA is also dying due to boring gameplay but at least they're trying to save it with anime. Promilia's gameplay is actually good.
>>1450030>Promilia's gameplay is actually good.I wouldn't judge that based on trailers. Let's wait for a beta test first.
>>1449960>>1449977You're smart, but you lack data.First, revenue from CN is really massive. If manjuu pandered to betrayed Genshin crowds, it's still a massive win. On the other hand if they want to omni pander, they will need to fight Genshin toe-to-toe and they will lose massively(Sunk-cost is not something that can be easily defeated).Second, you're overestimating how normies spend on game or anything concerning hobby. The one who spent the most is the "mentally ill" or otaku. There is a reason why Vtubers that has big number are the one who don't collab with men or don't have relationship IRL.Third, you're correct that some shikikan more specifically EN shikikan don't care or "hate" this game. But don't forget that EN server revenue is too small to be compared with CN. What manjuu should do is pick CN as primary target and let everything flow. Don't forget that when some people filtered, another people will filled that spot.
>>1450031Only glitches could stop them from making a good game. Genshin + Palworld is something that is failproof.
>>1450034I've been burned too many times by promises and trailers but I hope you're right.
>>1450030Nikke fall from grace is because its too reliant on fomo and its a game centered around constantly competing, you feel more on a threadmill than in a game they want you to have fun with.
>>1450021NIKKE released its PC client
>>1449862>girls are actually a dude (the writer) talking to yougalgame tooshould accept the fact that only men can make female characters that men like the most.men know what men like.
>>1449925The text says pet companion enhance your ability.The highlight is not the character.
>>1450047>men know what men like.no homo?
>>1450050no homo.the characters are fictional female and women took the voice acting role.
>>1450015>3D gachaIf you are talking about 3D gacha which is a broader genre.I'm not sure is it the first but HI3 is earlier than Snowbreak.For 3D open world AP is gonna be the first.>>1450021It's because of macroscopic environment.Genshin's revenue is cut by more than half. Yet female banners are still selling better than male banners.Love and Deepspace being that high hinted that it took away the huge chunk of female audience from Genshin.If you want to say men are far more likely to jump from game to game you must at least suggest from which one to which one.Because when nearly all of them dropping in revenue there are external reason like economy.
>>1450032>On the other hand if they want to omni pander, they will need to fight Genshin toe-to-toeNot really, and they don't need to omni pander either, but for that they will have to innovate in a technology that makes things more convenient and introduces a new paradigm just like genshin did in its moment, and i really can't suggest a solution here because i don't have the vision or the technical knowledge but my concern is that we are not seeing anything new from Azur Promilia, those who are here in this thread are primarily because we like the core idea of a brand new ambitious all-girls gacha, that's the "innovation" being made.I'm pretty sure the farming stuff and palworld stuff eludes most people here and they will just tolerate it as long as the pandering is high, which is not a good thing in my opinion, very few people is looking at this game as a game and more of a medium to have a vendetta on the cultural war or have very high expectations on the pandering despite the all red flags being present on it being a very mild pandering game.The only way i can see this game taking off and taking off really hard is to keep it as it is but make it closer to a standalone game in terms of daily commitment, minimal to zero chores, very well streamlined progression through the mechanics and story for a satisfying pay off at the end of the current "patch". Then set your players free until you announce the next patch and they will be fresh and excited to try it and not feeling like they missed out for not logging during dead periods, this is something most if not all gacha games fail to accomplish or see as potential advantage, blue archive is probably the closest to this.I am basing myself on this model from Stardew Valley for example that its not a live service game but the community mimics what could be a live service game through the release of new "patches" with free content just like gacha games do minus the gacha.
>>1450021>Nikke went from 70-60 million per month to bellow 15 million per monthWhy not give the whole context? Nikke's revenue dropped because they started censoring and cutting back on fan service. Look at the ReZero collab, zero fan service whatsoever, so zero interest from the fans, even though ReZero's a fucking massive IP.The devs finnaly realized they fucked up, so they brought back the fanservice in the next patches to make up for their dumbass move and cover the Kadokawa IP fees.
>>1450032>Revenue/download>JP: 4.5>USA: 1.18Holy molyThat's why opinion outside Asia (China and Japan) doesn't matter.>they will need to fight Genshin toe-to-toe and Wuwa, and Mugen, and whatever mixed toilet games that are still cooking.while Snowbreak is not direct competitor if AP fucks up in any way disappointed people are gonna fall back to AP
>>1450050I mean, you have women in charge of entertainment in the west now and see what has it become?Men know their own fantasy. Women fail to comprehend it.
>>1450056>but for that they will have to innovate in a technology that makes things more convenient and introduces a new paradigm just like genshin did in its momentFirst day commander and I can tell you Manjuu is inferior game dev in game developing than most devs in China.The only thing good about them is they treat players like human beings.
>>1450032>all those excusesmale are more loyal btw
>>1450071>>1450021
>>1450074>>1450054
>>1450065They have no other choice, niche games can't monetize aggressively because by being niche you have a player base already aware of the industry and its nature.You can only monetize aggressively on omnipandering / anime IP games because the clueless normalfag knows no better.
Where's my pammyholes? I need pammies...
>>1450078Not sure about China but waifugames aren't niche in Japan.It's zero sum and the pie is shared by lots of games but the whole pie is larger than omnipandering.
>>1450054>Love and Deepspace being that high hinted that it took away the huge chunk of female audience from Genshin.i really don't think so, what i personally see here is a new paradigm being introduced into the market completely parallel to the male oriented market, the game looks very high budget as well, so its no surprise to me it viralized so quickly.
>>1450094>to the male oriented marketTo the male and omni pandering oriented market*Genshin loss margins here to me seem to small to merit LaD being the culprit, if anything i would blame HSR.
>>1450078I think the industry is in an awkward position where every mobile game company secretly wants that casual, low-intensity market because they have the biggest staying power and spending power (just look at Puzzle and Dragons, Dokkan, Monster Strike, CoC, Rise of Kingdoms, etc) but not only it is hard to penetrate (or even identify the wants of) that casual market, Mihoyo is actively dominating the border between otaku and normalfag right now. So Chinese companies that are already dealing in otaku stuff (Manjuu included) have no choice but to either copy whatever Mihoyo is doing, or look at the recent successful normalfag games (Palworld, Elden Ring, Spiderman) and copy them into a otaku gacha.
>>1450097Yellow chicken didn't copy palworld. They have been working on the game for years. It's just one of those strange coincidences that palworld came along right before it was announced.
>>1450099Game development is an ongoing process, and you won't convince me that they added this in the middle of development out of pure coincidence.
>>1450099Manjuu is lucky and has a little foresight. Palworld was announced in 2021, and Azur Promilia started development in 2021. The Palworld boom this year also helped Manjuu advertise without a fee.
>>1450103We probably won't know, doesn't seem like a far fetched idea to arrive to while designing a game about pokemons assisting with logistics and infrastructure.
>>1450110What most likely happened is they saw Palworld and quickly added that feature last minute. Using pokemon as your work slaves isn't exactly a common idea especially for a developer whose previous work had nothing to do with pokemon.
>>1450094>LaD is made by Papergames.lol
>>1450117That explains the aggressive advertisement and the overly-greedy (according to my yume friends) monetization with no room to save. But it's funny that they borrowed money from Mihoyo out of all companies out there.
>>1450117if 6m shares from mihoyo are worth 10% of that company then the total shares for mihoyo has to be in the billions lol
>>1450124The other options are Tencent, NetEast or a China bank.
>>1450136I said that because Love and Deepspace is directly competing with Tears of Themis. But I guess either way Mihoyo would benefit.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8980432383https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8980423007?pn=1in other news seems like hsr is having a fresh new yume stinky
>1450140Azur Promilia?
>>1450144things like that only help azur promilia further though
this isn't your safe space.
It is.
Blumine
My beloved
Sex with cute chicken.
I'll be breeding the Lepidelics
Blumine legs...erotic
Post BIGgest and FLATtest Elves this game has.
Jesus, back enjoyers will feast in this game.
>>1450370There are only two elves as of right now, the spear one and the dual blades one.
>>1450372And the archer one, she eluded my consciousness for a second.
>>1450343Made for breeding
>>1450384yeah, with me.
https://youtu.be/sQpiJZB0Fjs?si=X-qeEMrFLvKYLEyL&t=71The goat has spoken
>>1450391See? There's no futher argument to be had here, if western ecelebs already like Azur Promilia this much with literally only one footage released and with WuWa around the corner then this will be a home run, things that look fun and cute just sell, its just that simple.
>>1450400The Palworld similarities really helped distinguish AP from other Genshin clones
>>1450400Harem schizos will ruin it for everyone, the game is just perfect as it is and they are schizophrenically deluding themselves into thinking the girls will start scissoring each other.
The only girl that should be for the Male MC is Blumine and with a hot sex scene and everything by downloading the R18 patch from the invite only website.
>>1450391TL;DW>BraxophoneWuthering Waves, Azur Promilia>RubeeAzur Promilia>MTashedWuthering Waves, Azur Promilia, Duet Night Abyss>VolkinSolo Leveling Arise, Wuthering Waves, ZZZ>Hai_YunWuthering Waves
>>1450391>e-trash
>>1450371can you zoom out to see her fluffy tail?
>>1450404Why are mihomo fags so insecure about having some competition? You should be grateful someone is finally lighting a fire under dawais ass. Maybe your game will actually get better.
>>1450413>wuwaI have never seen a more artificial hype in ages. There is zero real enthusiasm for this fag pandering shitfest. It is 100% DOA and will quickly go the way of TOF. It has a boring shit world with zero creativity, fake difficulty and more fags than you would find a chippendales.
>>1450441It had some sexy animations in one of the previews, but the male character focus quickly told me to avoid it.
>>1450441Shitter ecelebs who think it'd somehow be both dmc and souls of gacha because retarded pgr players kept telling them how good pgr gameplay is.
>>1450441Don't forget how lame and boring the characters designs look in that trash. I cannot see WuWa not being dead on arrival
>>1450441I'm hoping it'd die even quicker since it out even have the people desperate for anime MMO to carry it's corpse like ToF does.
>>1450440lmao @ you if you think Azur Promilia will compete with genshin in any way, anyone interested in AP probably already stopped playing genshin.
>>1450454
>>1450441I'm still gonna try it out but I doubt I'll spend money on it unless it really blows me away somehow
>>1450441They will likely shift focus like in PGR did once the fail to take the Genshin fujos.
>>1450456lol if you really think that then its a good thing that ecelebs are receiving well the game as it is right now.
>>1450441>shill girl meets boy story>shill two other girls who are supposed to be in your group>ingame is just about wanking green Cu
>>1450454You know that's the same thing Kancollefags said about Azur Lane.
>>1450441I don't think it's artificial at all. At a glace, wuwa's appeal is the more in depth combat and more "mature" tone. That stands out against all the other gacha that tries to be very colorful and whimsical.And before anyone jumps down my throat with greentext, I'm not saying wuwa will be a gacha with very deep combat or an actually mature story. I'm just saying that's how it looks at a glance.
>>1450441It will die not because of fags but because starting out with chinese-inspired setting is a recipe for DoA.
>3 weeks later and the threads are still the sameHoly shit, the haremschizo is still going at it, huh? Anyways, just saw the recent trailer. Mitty sex. Sex with Mitty.
>>1450505ywnbaw, you are never getting your yuri fantasy.
>>1450441I think they'll be alright. The player-dev relation is pretty solid compared to other contemporaries which is part of the hype for the game. I know a couple of people willing to try it that don't play gacha, because it looks kinda similar to Xenoblade 3 and I agree on some arbitrary level.It won't blow records or anything, but it certainly has a spot amongst other gachas.
>>1450505Its a hoyonig falseflaging and poisoning the well.
>>1450441Chinks are saying that if they go women pandering they unironically will get the women audience from Genshin because even women don't like twinks in Genshin.
Nothing needs to be changed, the game won't be a chud fantasy neither will be a lesbian fiesta, you need to fuck off to your respective shitholes on /vg/
Surely the haremfag will fuck off from here when the game releases and you can play as a female MC right?
>>1450521Well, the game is not -going to- and neither -is- pandering to women so that concern is overblown.
>>1450521We don't like the dudes in WuWa either lol.
>>1450505>>1450532ywnbaw, go back to mihomo games faggot
>>1450537>want to force people to play a male instead of female because else it will make him insecure>others are faggots????
>>1450538Keep crying mihomo faggot, chinks will win again just like they won killing gf2. Feel free to keep seething about harem just like you have been doing for all those threads yuritranny, it just show how scared you are.
>>1450518So these >>1450507 >>1450537 are from a hoyo falseflagger? naruhodo
>>1450542Pretending is not you doing it is not going to fool anyone yurischizo, do everyone a favor and go back to your shithole
All yurifriends are honest posters who just want everyone to be happy and loved.All haremschizos hate women and only want to subjugate them. They are also nazis and voted for trump.
>>1450545Hmm, I'm getting off this site now.
Based yuriGODs
I'm in favor of erasing the Male MC because then normalfag women would want to play this game. Otherwise it just reeks of haremshit.
>yurischizo is now samefaggingpathetic loser, but not surprising coming from a tranny
>>1450550Based sister, no reason to waste resources on a character almost no one is going to play. Even the fags that claim they want the story to revolve around the male mc won't actually play him. Everyone wants to control a cute girl, the girl will be the only one played so why not just get rid of him. The game is rated for 12 year olds. They are going for a cutsie farming simulator. There isn't going to be any romance anyways. People are deluding themselves because of the previous game by the devs thinking this game will have the same kind of romantic interactions. But I can promise you that isn't happening, this game is going for omnipandering just without rollable fags but its omnipandering in every other way.
Yuriniggers are pathetic
Haremschizos are pathetic
>>1450555There are male NPCs in this game, so if some players want to self-insert as a male they can always self-insert into those NPCs.Having Male MC among playable females would send the wrong message to the general public who would otherwise be invested in this game. Not to mention the current Male MC isn't exactly appealing looks-wise.
Sure is samefag in here.
>>1450559>the general publicestrogened american males are not the general public
>>1450562They actually kind of are. We are the odd ones here.
>>1450541you just gave up baiting at this point bro
>>1450566kys yuritranny
>>1450568lol
>>1450562Normal married men and women, normal unmarried men, normal unmarried women, teenagers and children (under the supervision of their parents) are the "general public gamers". They are characterized as strong casuals, who tend to follow trends and have the biggest potential to make any game huge (remember Pokemon GO? Palworld? Clash of Clans?). But on the flipside, the general public is also the most mentally conservative audience out there. The moment they smell "harem stench", they're out ASAP. Problem is AP only has playable females, so the forbidden harem atmosphere would be inevitable with the existence of sole Male MC. Therefore, removing the Male MC is the only way to remove this "harem stench" that may drive away the general public.
>>1450577I'm trans btw forgot to mention, also you people need to stop being afraid of genshin impact. It's actually a really great game, just give it a try, even the males are really cool and not gay like some people try to make them out to be.
Thread was fine 12 hours ago before the harem schizo took his pagpag ass here and started called everyone hoyodrones.
t. falseflagging yurischizo
>>1450590You got him
>>1450591It always him falseflagging and samefagging, such a pathetic little loser to do this in every thread.
>ctrl-f haremAlmost every time harem is mentioned it's someone crying about the haremschizo ghosts in the room with him. No one is even arguing for or against it it's just one person endlessly crying about the evil haremschizos trying to take away his waifus and omnipandering.
>/v/Turd is /here/ as wellHoly fuck you're mental
Yeah I think harem is cringe
The "general public" would think virgins watching sao or re:zero as less weird than trannies watching madoka or whatever little magical girl show of the season is. Harem stench is better than fat balding old men watching little girl stench.
Who the fuck cares what women and normalfags think? If you care about that you are the biggest loser in here.
Watch manjuu slowly turning into WoManjuuVerse while real men thrive.
>>1450436the tails don't look quite polished yet
>>1450116You that palworld didn't release out of thin air right? The early access/beta whatever you want to call it was shown in like 2020.There is nothing "last minute" here
>>1450516Yeah it has a spot, 25th place, down with PGR and GFL2
>>1450681erotic
>>1450681she's a cutie
I am discouraged they have flying mounts. Not sure what even the point of an open world is. Flying destroyed the open world of wow. What's the point of exploring when I can just hop on my mount and get over any obstacle or across the world in 20 seconds? Not sure if this game will be able to keep my interest in the long term if it's just a farming and pokemon collecting simulator. Hoping they don't neglect the world exploration.
>>1450692They'll probably have stuff like dungeons and underground caves where you can't fly.
>>1450692if that "leak" posted a week ago was true, flying mounts will be your vehicles to sky islands and the game will also have a degree of aerial combat as seen in the footage. Expect bosses where you will have to fly. Also underground and Underwater places so other type of mounts get their use.
>>1450692Just play Genshin if you want walking for 30 minutes to gather trash experience
>>1450702Just because genshit did it badly doesn't mean other games have to as well.
>>1450705That's why AP gives everyone flying mount instead of paywalling it with limited character ability.
>>1450706Wtf how dare you to point that out???
Do you think manjuu is waiting wuwa to release to reveal more stuff?
>>1450709I would reveal the gearing process after wuthering waves comes out and player feedback starts mounting, taking feedback from your competitor's consumers is the best way to swing the market in your favor.
Youyou sex
>>1450692exploring only happens once, so just choose not to use it unless required
>>1450709They're also observing Palworld updates in real time
Desu I just want bosses to be capturable and be used
>>1450681>pantiesIf only...
ZZZ sent out their invitewhen will AP send theirs too?
Palworld!
>>1450907Sex with Sparkle.
>>1450904They're still figuring out how to make big boobs work in 3D game (no joke)
I didn't get a ZZZ invite so I am now an AP shill
>>1450516>looks kinda similar to Xenoblade 3>trash that killed the franchise You know what, you're right they are similar.
HAHAHAHA SNOWBREAK IS NOW A 18+ GAME AND I'M HERE FOR IT
>>1451015there's no 18+ rating in China. they just don't want minors playing.
>>1451015My knees can't get any lower...
>>1451015lmao, retard
>>1451015At least post the translated version dumbass
>>1450017>and yes the implication was mmo style open world gamesSo Tower of Fantasy?
>>1451041Is Snowbreak a game for normal men? May be I should try it out.
No wonder AL deleted the marriage system.
>>1451046I don't think that's true for AL, in the promilia tieba there are some AL screenshots and they clearly still can oath
>>1451046I think that's reffering to interpersonal marriage in games, mabinogi for example
>>1451046How old is this? This must be pre-retarded decision that almost crippled an already hobbling Chinese stock market. >Ban on games about life in a harem.Pfff. Fat chance of that.
>>1451047sure...
>>1451051https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8980462576you must be looking really funny right now
>>1451053bro his narrative....
Sex with Blumine
>>1451051Wake up anon, it's 2024 now
>>1451045Snowbreak is a game for normal hetero men and the fact it's not doing much better than Genshin is criminal
>>1451042A dead game not even worth mentioning.
>>1451045The problem is it is extremely amateur, the coom is all it has going for it. And the designs aren't even that great aside from a couple of them. It's got good devs but it's a low tier product overall.
Breeding Blumine with pals
Is there really no trailer or other ad content that features maleMC?
Can we expect the monetization to be more like AL where every character is piss easy to get and you only pay for the skins? One of the dozen reasons I left genshit is how a character gets boring after a while and you need to save for half year for another
>>1451109>and you only pay for the skins?This will require them to make actually sexy skins so no. No way.
>>1451109No, that's a pipe dream, maybe it won't have coinflip pity or have a little higher rates.
>>1451103Not yet but i guess we will see them soon or chink complaints will reach critical mass again
>>1451140Good. I expect some Elf Hags on human Shota kino from the developers of Friedrich der HAGrosse.
>Palworld mechanicMaybe it's just a coincidence or they somehow predicted some obscure low-effort unreal engine game will be hit today in 2021, Manjuu has uncanny prophetic tendencies like first russia event during the actual invasion with Kiev as grindable SSR, and some few others I forgot
>>1451109No. It costs more than PNG.Unless they find a way to build models by AI
>>1451097Far as I'm concerned, all gacha is extremely amateur. You don't play these games solely for the gameplay. As a shooter, snowbreak is just serviceable. The movement and shooting is responsive but it lacks attention to detail when it comes to the guns. I was going to drop the game early on but I stuck with it long enough play with a full team and the team dynamic made it more enjoyable to play so I didn't quit in the end.
>>1451109No characters will be expensive but it seems like it won't have a weapon gacha so there is that at least.
>>1451163This. I can't believe nga are more sane than 4chan.They already pointed out why pandering is important.All these anime style games have only serviceable gameplay and none of those games can sell by gameplay alone.The pandering is providing positive sentimental value which is why people spending money that can buy multiple copies of proper games.\Mihoyoslurpers are really different species.
>>1450097It's because these retards think they're playing the same game. it's as your analysis implies: easy come easy go. the reason casual games don't succeed as easily is a direct result of how these games have the highest staying power. normalfags aren't as in touch with the market and are less willing to eat the cost of transition to begin with.it's a complete toss up if the algorithm likes you or not, the same way things don't go viral without that or insider manipulation. that's why pandering to the mentally ill (any class of fanatics) is always the safer investment: you toe the unwritten line and count your bags. your only threat is some other investor one-upping you, but that's the free market for you. it's a low risk investment if you know what you're doing.
Tencent's Honor of Kings open world just got leaked, fully playable (200GB). You can find some vids on NGA.If any game that can conquer the normalfag market it's this one. Wonder how much it will affect the otaku or gacha sphere.
>>1450559>There are male NPCs in this game, so if some players want to self-insert as a male they can always self-insert into those NPCs.actually how I felt watching railgun. the issue evidently boils down to writing and execution, and promilia's writers are an unknown factor (not that anything past s2 is worth the time)
>>1451046>marriagegood. that shit is straight up grooming material.as for harem, someone needs to try getting the greenlight then adding a feature for that post-release. right now this shit stinks of female induced FUD.
>>1451185>marriage>good. that shit is straight up grooming material2d girls are not real and neither is your gender, you will never be a woman.
>>1451178It conquer the normalfag market a.k.a the omnipandering territory.
>>1451187refer to >>1451049 you falseflagging hoyo nigger. unironically kill yourself.
>>1451190Imagine being so wrong and so mad. I sense a lot of projection in this post.
>>1451192you're both right and wrong. right in that I threw out that accusation entirely on a limb and wrong in that you've just proven me right.down the road, not across the street. do it nigger
I want to marry all the Elves in Azur Promilia though
There aren't any yet but IMAGINE the hag mommy elvesJesus
>>1451178That will be for absolute normalfags that aren't even interested in anime games, a complete different market altogether
>>1450981It's pretty cynical to say that this game won't see moderate success within the current climate of the gacha market. They were very strategic with their release date and PR. I'd love to hear your reasoning for Xenoblade as well.
>>1451262I've seen the advertisement. The female characters have official ship so I don't know who this game is for.
>>1451265Not sure what you're referring to, but that's idiotic if true.
>>1451265>The female characters have official shipProof?
>>1451281Tectone talked about it on his last livestream.
>>1451281I want to link the post but it's deleted.It's analysis of ad material hinting shipping but I didn't care enough to save the image.So just take it with grain of sand. We'll know the truth once it's released anyway.
>>1451283I'm not gonna watch that, tell me which characters are supposed to be shipped.
>>1451288Pink hair woman with a male (they are all black haired and ching chong name so idk which one)
>>1451290Was it with one of the supposed datamined males?
>>1451283Can you link it, I cant find where he is talking about it?
>>1451296No we are not talking about AP.Read the reply chain again it's Wuwa.
>>1451317I thought you were talking about Honor of Kings lol
>>1451331Who cares about shipping in Honor of Kings lmao
>>1451342the kings
>>1451209sex
>>1451288>>1451299Honestly, I just lied. Sorry.
>>1451378Honor of Kings doesn't have any shipping then?
Licking Blumine's Legs
Anyone who has put their trust in Kurogame after 2019 is a retard anyways. We've known since forfuckingEVER that Kuro is more infested and controlled by fujos and trannies than even Mihoyo. Wuwa has always been considered DOA by anyone outside of retards. AP is our last hope
>>1451452What did they do? Some of us weren't even old enough to play gacha 5 years ago.
Wait so this is ps5 and pc only? I didn't think you could even release a gacha game without a phone version.I doubt my toaster will be able to play this
>>1451523no? check your eyes
>>1451523I'll help you once. There are many ways to find answers in this Internet age by yourself.https://www.gematsu.com/games/azur-promilia
>>1451532>>1451524Okay thanks
>>1451523I think even a 10 year old toaster is still better than high-end modern phones.
>>1451452PGR is currently doing fine looking at the last two girls.
>>1451567Just ignore hardm schizo he's making shit up and ironically shitting on a harem game.
>>1451538>Snoy censorship and "inclusivity"It's over
News when? It's been a long time since announcement now.
>>1451624Just like stellar blade got censored right?
>>1451639d-doesn't c-count!
>>1451623>harem>mixed toiletlmao
>>1451630The news is... they're still trying to figure out how to make big boobs work in 3D. Right now they have two options : delay the release to 2025, or ditch big boobs altogether.
>>1451538on Bilibili Games it says that it will also be available on mobile
Blumine smoochies
>>1451639>>1451644That's just one game against a mountain of censored games and dead IPs.
>>1451639Stellar Blade is a farcry from the pre 2018 fanservice games we used to get, hell it's Kim's most toned down title if you look at pre censored blade and soul, destiny child, and nikke. Besides having a little bit more jiggle Eve is basically 2B with more costumes. It's laughable that the game attracted so much ire over Eve.>>1451644Yeah it doesn't count despite all the asshurt about the game I can't see it fail sony's checks.
I wish manjuu releases news few days after the azur lane stream. One month with nothing is suffering.
I'm starving for more Blumine shots.
>>1451567Not even the chinese give a fuck about a Honkai clone in a post-Genshin industry>>1451873I wonder if Kim will ever make another game on the fanservice level of Destiny Child, even if corporate allows him to. I can't help but think DC flopping to the point that Shiftup had to turn to Tencent to fund Nikke kind of...broke him. Made him stop believing in his shit to some degree. Also>I can't see it fail sony's checks.They could try bribing Sony with Nikke money to look the other way (I'm pretty sure that's what Hoyo did with Genshin using HI3 money) or threatening to get Tencent involved.
Sony has no reason to deny coom games after the massive money bleeding they have been through lately.
>>1451644Anon, I really, really, hope it does count, but Stellar Blade is just one coom title that they barely pass on due to sheer desperation for exclusive title. Even if AP did pass, it doesn't mean later snoy will not renegade on the deal later on to clamp down on censorship when they're better off.
>>1452038this, i need more delicious blumine thighs
>>1452074are the people on the left NPCs?
>>1452078the pink haired one is apparently the bull guy's daughter
>>1452080but yeah they are all npcs
>>1452059i will never touch a snoy console again, until they bring back the pantsu games like senran kagura in their full uncensored glory. Only reason I ever bought a vita, and PS3 was to play those games, not The Troon of Us.
>>1452232You can tell she's shotapilled
>>1452074What does a monster tamer want that big ass for
>>1452316to tame the pocket monster
CN votes for male and female protagonists“Similar discussion” = keep male and female
>>1452343You already fucked up the 4th option translation.It's lock in male for story, but free choose in gameplay
>>1452345It's not me who translated it, but thank for the correction
>>1452343Also the first two option are to vote for allowing MC gender discussion in that community or not.
>>1452343In my time polls were less schizophrenic
>>1452343Bros?? I thought the people who wanted to lock the male MC was the minority? You mean hoyotrannies were wrong?
I don't understand the poll.It's clearly asking the community to allow posts or not but what's with the 3rd and 4th option there.
>>1452343>barely even 1000 votesYeah I should totally care about a vote botted poll
>>1452343Nothing will change lole
>>1452361Shouldn't they try a poll on a bigger platform
>>1452364well yes, tieba and nga are basically 4chanesque boards.
>>1452367Maybe try it on chinese twitter
>>1452354They always were. Now we'll see what Manjuu does.
Removing the fem mc from her protagonist role would be false advertisement though, you clearly see her starring the story.
>>1452343This the equivalent of Reddit making a poll and thinking the votes there reflect the average user btw.If you actually support them doing this shit it would be no different from you supporting all the western companies doing the exact same shit and changing EVERYTHING reddit damands.
I'll be pissed if you homos take away my free waifu.
>>1452354I think early adopters (as in people who would be active participating in community discussions at this very early stage) would naturally be in favor of male MC. They are the people who always "try to steer" game developers before official release. But I don't think they'll reflect the eventual playerbase.
>>1452380If what Aether Gazer did was fine then removing fem MC from protagonism is fine too.
So all the haremfags will fuck off from the game when it comes out and there's still a female MC... right?They won't keep playing and trying to fuck over the game still despite the game clearly not being for them... right?
>>1452392Aether Gazer is from a different dev though.
>>1452383The MC discourse will determine whether the devs are wise or not. If they're willing to fold over such absurd demand, they won't make it to the big leagues.
>>1452400>big leagues>mixed toiletNo thanks.The whole point is schizo doesn't want normalfags women in their game. Just like how otome gamers want to gatekeep.If you're woman and still want to play even it's locked to male MC? You're welcomed
>>1452400they aren't loyal either, just look at snowbreak, its pulling some numbers now that it went full pandering but that game might as well be the unironic AP waiting room for chinese ML players
Are they going to remove the male MC? I'm not a cuck or gay so I don't want to watch another man's ass or watch him fuck all the girls.
>>1452343WTF I LOVE CHINA NOW???
>>1452383Imagine this. Your MC is locked to male. Every female playable is now male pandering.The former female MC is now your free and first unit.
>>1452406>The whole point is schizo doesn't want normalfags women in their game.Meaning it's a matter of interest group demanding Manjuu to go against their initial creative vision (it's clear from early promotional materials that they want both MCs to exist).>Just like how otome gamers want to gatekeepThe equivalent would be women demanding Manjuu to add playable males against their creative vision.I think both sides should be gatekept.
>>1452430I don't want to play as a male tho?
>>1452430I doubt it. Also being forced to play as a twink every cutscene would bring my mood down too.
Eh I don't care, as long as the oath system is there, we're all good.
>>1452394If they dont get what they want, removing the female MC choice I think they should never touch this game out of principle, otherwise this big stink is for nothing.
>>1452437>Oath your sister
>>1452437There will be no oath system if there's a female mc.
>>1452443Just change it to "friendship tiara" if they choose female MC
>>1452441that would make AP an overnight phenomenon on the western side
>>1452430That means the original feMC would be relegated to 2nd lead position with entirely new background story. Also there's the possibility of her being demoted to 3rd lead or even disappeared entirely depending on circumstance.
>>1452431The said interest group is Manjuu diehard fans. Azur Promilia's direction will not only affect itself but also Azurlane.It has happened before that women normalfags do slippery slope from "It's clear they want both MC's to exist" to "There are MC of both sex it's clear they want to pander to both gender we should ask for male playable". Then game added male playable and became mixed toilet, finally pushing away the male audience.This is why having female MC or not is a huge concern to them. They want a product that focuses on their needs.I'm not here to argue with anyone. Just telling what the situation over there is.
>>1452435Agree. That's why they should take one more step to make male MC into a chad
>>1452408Most gacha player aren't loyal either. The only reason genshit still big are because there's steady stream of new players. That's why they spent more money on advertising than rewarding their playerbase ingame. The loyalist and sunk-costard will take any shit so it's more important to replenish the player base. Newbie are also more prone to impulse buying due to catching up to older player and fomo.
>>1452453But then if you turn him into a chad nobody would be able to self-insert as him.
>>1452455>Make ugly man so I can self insertYou do know that's woman logic and causing female characters to look shit in the western games? (And in fact normal women also want to self inset as hot characters)Even you have ugly appearance if you have a healthy and beautiful mind you should be able to self insert as good looking characters
>>1452450I think at the end of the day creatives should be allowed to do their jobs without too much outside pressure. They already initially decided that both MCs should exist, so they should roll with it. Caving to demands now, regardless of diehard fans or whatever, would be unwise.
>>1452458Self-inserts must be as plain and generic as possible, with no distinct personality trait that strays from the default. That's how it's always been in harem anime, hentai, and doujins.
>>1452459>They already initially decided that both MCs should existThisIn the same playthrough and sleep in the same bed
>I trust manjuu to remove the female protagonist choice>I don't trust manjuu to not add male characters if the female protag stays
If you separate the female MC into her own character that means she won't be "the chosen one" anymore. Which is lame.
fuck off incest niggers
stay here incest brothers
>>1452468Fuck off tourist
>>1452459>I think at the end of the day creatives should be allowed to do their jobs without too much outside pressure.You can always ignore outside pressure if you don't care your game sells good or not. If they care about the external pressure they care about revenue.I mean...they are trying to voice their opinion before game dev makes wrong marketing decision.In the west it's different culture but omni-pandering is dying over there. Women get Love and Deepspace and now men are now demanding a counterpart.
>yes they should totally listen to the Chink Reddit and have no vision or creative decision of themselves>they have to listen to reddit or the game will fail!
>>1452472Depends.If they're confident they can make a successful game with two MC options, they should go ahead and do that.If they're confident they can make a successful game with only playable females, they should go ahead and do that.At the end of the day, they should trust in their own intuition instead of stifling their own creativity in favor of interest groups.
ShotaGODS run this general
>Only playable femalesIt took only this long to reveal his true form
>>1452479You know that post refers to the fact that gacha only contains playable females despite people asking for playable males, but you'd rather nitpick in semantics.
>>1452476that's an olympic leap in logic, i didn't say that
Why do haremfags even care about this game if they clearly don't want to play it? They want to play ANOTHER game and want the devs to make ANOTHER game, just play a game like that instead.The moment a company or devs start to bend their ass because of people whining you know it's a lost cause.
>>1452485Blue Archive is literally the game he's asking for and he's not sticking to that.
>>1452485>The moment a company or devs start to bend their ass because of people whining you know it's a lost cause.Agree wholly with you. Games that start to pander to whining women and it suddenly become shit. Female characters get censored, sidelined in story. And male players get to eat shit.
Why do yurifags even care about this game if they clearly just want to play Genshin? They just want to play ANOTHER Genshin and want the devs to make ANOTHER Genshin, just go play Genshin instead.The moment a company or devs start to bend their ass because of yurifags whining you know it's a lost cause.
>>1452485>>1452472
>>1452489Because Genshin has male characters and is censored. >>1452490>game won't sell unless you pander to us screaming fansyeah....
>>1452489Speaking of Genshin how does CN feel about the latest yuribait character?
>>1452489>yurifagsmissed the mark entirely>literally n-no u!-ing this hardlmeow
>people are already super excited and there's a big hype about the game despite the fact they've only shown a trailer and a few mins of gameplay footage>retards actually think they should just totally dumpster this hype and totally change the entire game because they want the game to pander to them instead of playing the game that is advertised
>>1452481Yeah, I know, I'm a retard. Sorry.
>>1452485It's almost like they as Azur Lane fans....
>>1452501Good thing this game isn't Azur Lane and a totally different game and that they can still play Azur Lane
>>1452488>Games that start to pander to whining women and it suddenly become shit. Female characters get censored, sidelined in story. And male players get to eat shit.Sounds like GBF post angelfaggotry, the female cast largely doesn't do shit in the plot besides being secondary to the male cast.
>>1452498If you're out of the loop. GFL2 exploded and cause huge ripple there. If it's pre-GFL2 incident probably there wouldn't be such noise.
>>1452498even >reddit is hyped and they are already aware that it is female only with skimpier outfits than the rest of the upcoming games
>>1452485Given that the game isn't even in Alpha things are subject to change, if their comminty is demanding the demotion of the FeMC then they should just go ahead and demote her. MCs in gachas hardly matter anyways due to the whole carmeraman do nothing bullshit that 99% of gachas. Having a canon male mc in a bishoujo game isn't going to change much due to the fact that the game isn't omnipandering to begin with.
>>1452502>totally different gameNo, it's AZUR Promilia
>>1452510>skimpier outfitsKuro will bend the knee like they did in PGR once their fujo gambit fails.
>>1452343>I come from AL 472>I am a heavy AL player 501Eh?
>>1452441>>1452447Based and Habsburg pilled
>>1452510>2024Call me pessimistic but due to the fact that this game is an open world which allows you to fly around (meaning the map would be much bigger than any 1.0 version of other open world gachas), along with monster/companion AI development (to prevent monsters from being as retarded as Pals in Palworld), figuring out 3D boobs physiques, creating and rigging monsters (it's not a Pokemon game without 80+ unique monsters to capture), figuring out monsters evolution/growth/breeding, figuring out how to fit 30 NPCs in one street without mobile devices imploding, I unironically think this game won't release until early 2026.
>>1452510It's a game for women
>>1452540Where is this from?
>>1452540>male mc poledancinglol that's gotta be a shitpost
>>1452541iirc someone made this with MMD and it's shared among everywhere in chinknet now.
>>1452511If it didnt matter I doubt all this fuss would be happening in the first place
>>1452545Leaks show early stage in development they decided to go for omnipandering route. It's likely market environment changed and they scrapped that.
And now Infinity Nikki is having a beta test.
>>1452538the game minimap isn't even drawn yet, this game is going to be really undercooked at release even if its past 2025, only the most faithful will be rewarded in the long run, the rabid extremists won't be loyal to this game
>>1452552the Nikki franchise is also made by the Love and Deepspace dee
>>1452538isn't there like a chink law that you have to release within a year if you got greenlit by winnie?
>>1452556IIRC both Wuthering Waves and Star Rail were developed without being greenlit. In fact Star Rail immediately launched not long after being greenlit because they had been waiting for it.
>>1452556I think yes. I've seen comments mentioning that.>>1452558Azur Promilia already got it.
>>1452561This is not good then, i don't like the little that i saw from the footage and it will be hell of a crunch until January 2025
>>1452561They applied this soon? What the heck were they thinking?
>>1452556That's a bit strange requirement. I wonder why it exists
>>1452563That they won't get it for a decade
>>1452343>>1452345>剧情锁男,主角锁男然后送女主MTL it for yourself. the caption was right.>free choose in gameplaythat'd be the fifth option.
>>1452568Can you post a image with how you count the options?Maybe you're seeing an option that I missed.
If female MC is an option, I'll pick female MC.If it's male MC only, that's fine, too.MC option really isn't what makes or breaks the game for me.
>>1452573True. Amount of femcels playing it is the real problem. See >>1452528
>>1452572lmao so your post was more useless than I thought.you could've made your argument without sounding like a woman too, or maybe that's just how all chinks speak.
>>1452568Nice shitposting
>thinking femcels will play thisThe absolute insanity of this retard lol
>>1452594They don't play.They just want to actively ruin men's hobby.
>>1452553>>1452566https://youtu.be/IXiFZw_DT2Y?si=8jlHLklThBvzzNre&t=678>Rewatch gameplay demo just to have a grasp on map size>After a while, FeMC finally speeds up towards the edge of the grassy map>Oh great, now they'll fly to another ma->Scene fades to black and cuts away to another map>Cuts away again to wheat field map>Cuts away again to river map>Cuts away again to snow map>Every single one devoid of monster/interactable objectOne year won't be enough. Based on this demo the game is only about 20-30% done at this point. They need to find a way to somehow extend the deadline, or let the license expire and re-apply later.Forget MC wars, at this rate the release will be a complete disaster.
>>1452600They barely released a single trailer schizo
>>1452605And not have a fucking minimap overlay, "80% complete" my ass.
>>1452600>its a gameplay demothey aint going to showcase everything they've been working on, fking dumbass
>>1452600You can see that the map is not horizontally big either, most of the footage happens in the open field next to the blue ice spire thing, and you can catch the rock eagle summit from a multitude of shots.
>>1452600Because the map change like Monster hunter(old gen) or Monster Hunter story style. So it's not full open-world.Though you're correct that other maps aside from gameplay trailer, look empty.Oh and the AI of Kibo is still suck. You can see it in gameplay trailer where the Wolf Kibo can't even target enemy that make the kibo barely attack.I think this two things are dealbreaker. For 3D big boobs, they can release or make that character later.
I wish manjew didnt show the trailer until OBT is readyThe wait is too painful and they havent given us any news
>>1452644Other companies did the sameNov 2021 https://youtu.be/l8rW50MkzsU?si=0399_eCEbTic2QhdMar 2022 https://youtu.be/2h85NtIwduY?si=U1mj3vF7D7r7fVRVMay 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUzbqNeiDGMMay 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Thwm62iq1ETwo years since showing gameplay, not one has been released.
>>1452645I would laugh if the game only comes out after Genshin finished its teyvat chapter
>>1452645here's Infinity Nikkihttps://youtu.be/DLGtPAsaZaM
>>1452645the difference between these games and AP is that these games did not have their release certificate before released their first trailer, unlike AP which had its release certificate validated on January 25 and the trailer on march, which mean that Manjuu must release their games before January 25, 2025. Have their certificates validated before even knowing if your first trailer will have a good reception it's a very risky bet or even madness
>>1452660>Dec 2022 trailer>Mere gameplay showcase in April 2024Checks out>>1452662The initial reception has been really good especially among lolicons.Now they only have to deliver 2-3 closed betas and open beta within 8-9 months which is an incredibly tight schedule.
>>1452667What lolicons? There wasn't a single loli in the trailer, only some hebes and potatoes.
>https://youtu.be/iVjh8fpONwQ?si=e6RIF09EmbaVlpAXDOA, the combat is braindead to cater to mobile crowd. Can't believe people are hyped for this. Anyway, which one is the Femc?
>>1452691I was gonna tell you to take it to the wuwa thread but there isn't even a wuwa thread on /vmg/
>>1452713It's not like we have anything to talk about for both games anyway.
>>1452502problem is AL has been getting the shaft, gameplay is stale, outdated, stagnant, and it's most likely because they have been focusing on making promilia. AL is nothing more than a png collecter at this point.
>>1452565seems like a good law to me, look at all the scam games in the west that have been in development for over a decade but still take money from their retarded fanbases, ashes of creation, star citizen to name a few
>>1452408>unironic AP waiting room for chinese ML playersYou'd have to be delusional to still believe AP will be anywhere near (You) pandering as AL and SB
>>1452777That's what chinks are hoping it to become, that's why they are in Dusty White Refugee zone currently, aka AP news waiting room
Cmmon manjuu solve big tits. I know you want to add a not Lusty and not Unicorn
>>1452783I'd say it's pretty close at first glance.
>>1452812I wonder how big can we go. Last Origin proportions would be a dream come true.
>>1452833no fuck off, there's a reason that dogshit game is floppingit only works when there's one girl in the entire cast like that ala kashino
Will Azur Promilia be a comfy gacha? This looks like you could spend hours just working on your farm layout.
>>1452873i hate kashino, useless ship, then there's a point when tits get so big they start to look ridiculous. Let's hope AP doesn't add girls beyond Zara's size
>>1452934I like Kashino but i agree, the fox mommy is pretty good already
>>1452343HOLY FUCKING BASEDThose fools. We're all cursed with The Choice.
>>1452343Unironically end of discussion.
Nikkibros, it's happening!https://twitter.com/InfinityNikkiEN/status/1781140660768346580
>>1452873No you fuck off. Last Origin failed for different reasons.
>>1452783>waiting roomBut snowbreak is a shooter and azur promilia is a genshin clone.
>the haremschizo guy spamming these threads are also spamming on RedditSo when they release the game and there will be a female MC, you won't be playing right?
>>1452934>Zara's size>make absolute sex >do nothing with her for 1/2 decade the manjuu and pasta always will be a mystery for me
>1453090go back
>>1452934Kashino isn't that much bigger than Zara comparing their base art.
>>1452487>Blue Archive>After the Mahjong fiasco NTRNo thanks
>>1453026Harem fans care very little about gameplay.
>>1453192ntr is my fetish
Azur Promilia?
>>1453194NTR is good as fanart/doujin because it's built on the fundamental of canon MC love.
Azur Death
>>1453192how is this ntr? none of the girls in blue archive love you, it's all teasing. you can't marry or fuck or even kiss anyone. if anything the real cucks are people still playing that shit game instead of something with actual canon sex like Nikke.
>>1453192What does the mahjong soul collab have to do with women even
>>1453233>A world that male human other than you doesn't exist is not about girls being for (you)Right...Just say if there is no sex scene it's not in relationship
>>1453192I'm sorry but there's no way this isn't a shitpost. That collab is nothing more than a calculated business move to bring in more BA players to Mahjong Soul. There's nothing more to it. Also >>1453238
>>1453239That's the most pathetic part, it's the perfect harem setup but there isn't even a single "love you" in the game. It's all platonic, even Mutsuki is confirmed to just be platonic because she does the same flirting in Mahjong Soul too. It's sad how even Genshin has more romantic interactions than Blue Archive.
>>1453245/bag/bros, we're eating dirt again...
>>1453247Seia just keeps winning
Its been 30 days...
>>1453245shh... don't let the haremfags know, they'll stab the devs
>>1453668why not? I thought BA's death was a win for yurifags and mihoyo cucks?
>>1453245>Mutsuki>she does the same flirting in Mahjong Soul tooIs it also true that Shiroko is so much more romantically sweet to the Mahjong Soul's Player Character than how she was to BA's Sensei?
>>1453806she's a rapist desu
>>1453806>is it also true that Shiroko is so much more romantically sweet to the Mahjong Soul's Player Character than how she was to BA's Sensei?Nah that is a lie, but she wants to go fishing with him and gives him energy drinks like how she does with sensei and wants to give him some fish for taking good care of her and before you call me shitposter here are the voice lines just go to main: https://mahjongsoul.club/content/シロコ?language=enpersonally this leaves me with a bitter taste in the mouth because it sets some redflags for future collabs and is fucking funny that in the BA world the devs try to build a world with non existent human males and then BANG just out of nowhere they just pump one of the most beloved characters in design and lore intereacting with another protagonist from a semi-harem game (at least you could give us the furry girl from Mahjon fucking Yostar, fuck you), but in the end is probably Nexon or Yostar being greedy jews trying to leech the the success of BA and the OG devs cant do much about it.>>1453808KYS
>>1453816Doesn't Shiroko wear nightgown in front of Mahjong MC?
>>1453816I think everyone knows now to avoid Blue Archive, this collab shows Yostar just wants money and doesn't care about BA and they'll most likely send more students to Mahjong Soul or will do collabs with other games now. Wouldn't surprise me if this collab was the start of BA's death.I'm glad Manjuu is publishing AP themselves so Yostar can't do any scummy things.
>>1453820Yostar's CEO was part of GFL team and they had unhappy departure.But it shows they share the same root now. (GFL2 bomb and now this)
>>1453816>emotionally invested BAcultists being this militant when the subtext of the matter is completely undeniableYou act like a battered wife
>>1453816Nice headcanon sis.
>>1453820>Wouldn't surprise me if this collab was the start of BA's deathNot even close. Other game will die before it could happen. BA is too successful to die.
>>1453820They also get better emotes
>>1453844You're speaking like Blue Archive is as big as Genshin or Pokémon. It's literally just a trash game that got popular because of the porn, even Azur Promilia could take over that title if Manjuu plays their cards right.
>>1453935lol
>>1452626>gacha is only charactersHoyoshit and Kuroshit are dead on arrival then, this alone clears the competition>open world exploration actually mattersBeautiful, can't believe it but manjuu actually knows what the fuck they are doing>random stats on gearPain, trash design decision, but everything else makes up for it
>>1452662>which mean that Manjuu must release their games before January 25, 2025.Wasn't this change to chink gaming laws rolled back along with the other stuff that, when announced, actually killed Tencents stock prices?
>>1453955>open world exploration actually mattersI dunno how you got that from that post. Or that it matters any more compared to other games with open world.
>>1453960>I dunno how you got that from that postBecause thats supposedly the only way to get pets and weapons? >Or that it matters any more compared to other games with open world.The open world in genshit might as well not exist, all it ammounts to is chests that contain fodder trash and miserable ammounts of gems, trim that fat and condense rewards from 50 different chests that you have to spend 3+ hours looking for into say, 5-10 chests, and you got HSR
>>1453956No, the stock crash was caused by China proposed a law that forbade daily login reward, bonus when players spend money, and unregulated in-game trading plus limited the amount of money players can spend. They retracted the law immediately after millions or billions of money vapored.
>>1453968>They retracted the law immediately after millions or billions of money vapored.Sometimes I wonder if its America or China thats the most retarded place on Earth
>>1453965>The open world in genshit might as well not exist,You still need to go there to get drops from monsters and collect local specialties. Going into the open world to fight monsters for loot is kinda basic stuff (outside of gacha at least), maybe AP gives you more reson to do it, but those basics are there in like any open world game.
>>1453972>You still need to go there to get drops from monstersHSR does too and theres no open world there, and plants might as well be just another timegate with how their spawns work. Again, you can cut off the entire open world aspect from genshit, and you'll lose out on nothing, the open world is badly designed and pointless
>tedious climbing>painfully slow sprint and short distance dodge>out-of-combat stamina management>overworld mobs gradually become tough and all-immune for no reason>certain characters advantage for explorations>fast travel points placed in the worst possible place>zero dynamics among mobsAP won't have these, right? I don't mind field effects like freezing though...
>>1453937>cope laughlol indeed
>>1453997Your flying mount?
>>1454058They should've done a game where instead of a mount you are a plane girl.
>>1453997Everything will be solved with flying mount. Though in the trailer and demo they seem to intentionally make the map flat as fuck presumably to prevent glitches/clipping.
>>1454106If you can fly, there's not much point to have lots of mountains, the only thing they add gameplay-wise is stamina management for claiming, which is not fun after the first 5 times. I'm fine with flatter maps, as they allow for more combat/puzzles, as long as they have at least one biome with a big ass mountain (like the one we see in the background of every area).
>>1454162>If you can fly, there's not much point to have lots of mountainstechnically you could always make up some weather conditions that prevent flying mounts from flying high up "explorable" mountains
>>1454162See that mountain you can fly it
>>1454162>claiming>stamina management>gameplayHoly fuck if I haven't played Genshin I'd assumed you're talking about mountain climbing simulation.
>>1454058>>1454060>Azure Welkin rumors about it being about flying girls was true all along.
>>1454169At that point they should just add floating islands instead.
>>1454169That'd be a good idea.
>>1453955>gacha is only charactersYeah this game would really have to fuck up almost everything else now to not be successful.
>>1454207fanmade¿?
https://arca.live/e/38185
>>1454243unfortunately yes
>>1454278>>1454243never mind, actually no, it was from a giveaway manjuu made the same day of the reveal and now delivered the gift
>>1454281a giveaway for a not even released game, only a 15 minute demo... damn thats quite unique
>>1454276Blumine is now a rabi
>>1454281"yellow chicken" autotranslation is just so cute
>>1453935the porn is all trash too because retard first time doujin authors drew bald nigger mcs. never seen the doujin scene for a franchise rise so quickly and fell just as fast.BA got big from the artist scene, from having hired great illustrators from the bunch. their new designs are generic trash and yostar has been fucking them in the meantime
no news?
>>1454562no news.
>>1454562wait until after azur lane anniversary
the Chinese fan are starting to be a little upset with Yostar latelyexample: in Chapayev's asmr, only Yostar is mentionedthey find it a little disrespectful for Manjuu or Yongshiit's the same with certain BA stuff where Yostar doesn't mention Nexon or just writes "Yostar's games" in big and just puts "nexon games" written very small in a cornerI understand why Hypergryph and Manjuu want to make games without Yostar
The wait is killing me bros
>>1454620Find a waiting room
Fortunately there's no shortage of AP waiting rooms.wuwa, zzz, endfield probably too, take your pick
>>1454627>flop, mihomo, ntruh no thanks chief
>>1454627>AP waiting rooms.Like, AL and Genshin?
>>1454627>waiting roomsI already got BA. There is the new Elden Ring DLC incoming, new Atlas game and SMTV to keep me company. Playing a new gacha in the meantime would just encourage sunk cost. I won't touch another gacha unless they went full pandering for straight men.
>>1454627wuwa is gayzzz is furryEndfield probably releases after AP
>>1454643>I won't touch another gacha unless they went full pandering for straight men.>plays BAyou don't need to play anything else
>>1454627I will play WuWa, ZZZ, Endfield on top of Star Rail and AP.
>>1454651But NTR colalb
To be frank I'm tired of BA. I got sucker punched to it by my friend, and I never fapped to any of the girls, and I don't think them as hot at all, I avoided all the doujin like a plague when I'm fapping. Pretty much, I only do my dailies like a zombie and seeing small number goes up made me smile a little. I would've sell it right away if only it wasn't tied to my main e-mail.
>>1454657And it's fun seeing faggots on PvP losing against my shitty team comp with Haruka.
>>1454657what's even the point of playing titty gacha if you don't plan to fap to the girls?
>>1454657>I would've sell it right away if only it wasn't tied to my main e-mail.If you put a nexon account you can logout in the options menu in the game, then go to the nexon webpage to log-in with the account linked to BA and change you email, then open BA again and select the nexon account option and just log-in normally but with the new nexon email.t.I sold my 2 year old account 4 days ago for 350 usd because i didn't like they were whoring my waifu Shiroko>>1454665This, i just started playing Azur Lane and.......jesus i should have played it before.
>>1454666Who is your favorite boatslut so far?
>>1454665Sunk-cost I guess, it's like already ingrained to me to do all of those chores and dailies. Honestly, I'm starting to really get tired with the raid and now the new attack type gimmick. It's like I won't have ever "comfort" zone and must flounder the latest meta comp for that specific raid or whatever shit they cooked up.>>1454666Thanks for the info.
Yeah the meta chasing of BA gets really tiring after awhile and its not like you can just do the bare minimum and pull new students consistently, ranking shit with fomo is the worst thing you could add to your gacha.
>>1454668I really want Shinano but Z23 is really hot or started character, because i have weakness for balanced oppai-lolis
>>1454693there are four starter characters mind you
>>1454744made for anal
>>1454744i can tell she assaults shotas
>>1455015True, I'm still trying to cope with the brutal rape I endured.
>>1455080giwiwy
dead game
>>1455702As is tradition with manjuu games
>>1451015Brown Dust 2 is also a 18+ game now (although it's omnipandering)WTF is going on?
>>1455782>Probably anti gacha addiction regarding minorsEither that or minors can refund freely
>>1455782Trying to salvage themselves from eos? That game has not been doing so hot.
azur promilia soon
>>1455795What?
>>1455942>Sub 1m on sunny dayGood enough for tiny and insignificant franchise like brown shart 2
>>1455782>PanderingIsn't the protagonist a skydaddy who is just an invisible observer and the girls literal whore
>>1455961No, omnipandering doesn't tie into the story at all. It just means there are guys in the banners so even if you want to pull for girls you can still get shafted with a 50/50 chance by the dudes.
>>1455782>>1455961I read that in a livesteam last year the devs talked about how they would like to add a gift system that you can give to the female character, with a relationship gauge.but the fans wonder how it will work given that the game has no Self Insert and that certain girls have love interests or even boyfriendsOriginally the game had a self insert in the prologue but was never used after the prologue so 1 or 2 month after the release they rewrote the beginning of the game to remove the self insert, but now only waifu make money, the male characters are released very rarely so they probably want to go SI pendering, they will probably do something like Captainverse, to justify that the female character is no longer boyfriend or love interestBrown Dust 2 was released last year and was developed when everyone was doing Omnipendering, but unfortunately for them at the end of 2023/2024 the Self insert Harem trend returned.
>>1455980Lmao, they have sure fire formula to compete with Nikke but only got destroyed by their own hubris.
>>1454657>and I don't think them as hot at allWhy would your friend recommend a hetero game to a homosexual? Didn't they just come out with a new gacha for you?
>>1455980I just don't understand them. Do they seriously think if they do a hard pivot they'll suddenly gain the waifufag audience or are they just trying to retain whatever audience they have? There ain't no way their bringing in new waifufags for used goods when there are already good (you) pandering games and new untainted games like AP coming.
>>1456015I'd love to see Yongshi try it with Aether Gazer, cowards
>>1454106>Everything will be solved with flying mount.You mean ruined right? What's even the point of an open world with flying? Ever heard of a game called wow? Here is how people interact with the world in wow after flight was added. They fly up a hundred feet in the air, aim in the direction of their target and hit auto fly and tab out. It's fucking retarded and ruins any sense of scale or exploration. Might as well just have instanced battle arenas like honkai impact at that point.
>>1456040Yeah, flying and raid finder killed the social aspect of wow
>>1456052is there any social aspect in ap?
>>1456053We just don’t know. The guy is right about flying also killing exploration too. You’ll just fly to wherever you need to go. Unless they gate it by saying you need to get 100% exploration in a area before you can fly there.
>>1456040Good. I hate open world exploration and I hope Azur Promilia is doing world instance approach than real open world.
>>1456055I mean, it's no different from tunnel visioning to "where you need to go" on foot.That isn't exploring in the first place, it's following where the game is telling you to go.
>>1456013I just don't see them in a sexual light like you do, honestly I just found them cute and funny, and the thought of lewding them just disgust me on core level. The characters are fine but the mechanic just really make me tired since I'm not really emotionally invested with the students.
>>1456062It's 2024 man, you can come out of the closet, no one is going to judge you.
>>1456062you got the /bag/troon king
Blue Archive is crap. What drives me off is the snob upstart community who thought their game is some kind of god-given providence, at least majority of genshit and other gacha stays on their containment zone. You can just sense it whenever they promote this steaming pile of turd in every boards.
>>1456070>at least majority of genshit and other gacha stays on their containment zonewew lad
>>1456070
BA players are welcome here since AP will be just as platonic and non committing in its romance.
>>1456120It hurts but you are right. We're never getting a truly for (you) with good fanservice gacha game.
>>1456121Uhh nikke? Azur lane?
>>1455980>>1455982>>1456015Brown Dust 2 wants the Blue Archive audience nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVG_66Tzqc
>>1456133I meant a high quality open world game, not the mountains of 2d slop. Even AP is still flirting with omnipandering.
>>1456135Nah it has playable male characters
>>1456135>brownsharts get pure sovl with tentacle ojiisan raping lolis
>>1456135Not gonna lie i can tap to this, still not playing though
>>1456135dont play if there are males
>>1456135>lolishitthat shit doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, make the same skin but with a FDG/Bismarck looking character
>>1456062Might not be your problem, but when the girls just go full nympho on you for no reason i too would simply lose interest.
>>1456239This is what killed nikke for me, every character being for (You) and with very minimal backstory gets old really fast. There must be a balance so the for (You) ones stand out.
>>1456239>for no reasonNot sure what you mean by that. There's almost always a logical in-universe reason for harems.
>>1456121Wait for Nornium bro https://twitter.com/Nornium_main/status/1782240311831560326 .
>>1456121Eversoul, Azur Lane, (formerly) Blue Archive, Snowbreak, Project Normium, and hopefully Azur PromiliaThere's also always DMM porn games and erolabs stuff but the game part is almost always garbage.
>>1456262There won't be any non plutonic romance in this game.
>>1456266There can be if they lock male protagonist.
>>1456266>>1456271pray for chinks then
>>1456245Some schizoid on the community would say that you're perpetually stuck in purgatory and the students are the devil of temptations or guardian angel which would explain why they came out of nowhere.Obviously, i'm not buying that.
>>1456271They won't (this doesn't mean I don't wish they would I'm just being realistic).
wuthering bros......
>>1456282Chinks will make the Mr. Raymond drama look like a joke if Manjuu doesn't.
>>1456259Looks very promising indeed
>>1456284>borrow from friendlist plus all the restrictionsunironically would give me anxiety, there was zero reason to respond to muh endgame
Azur Promilia!
>>1456311A game whose hype will die before it even sees release. They should have waited until there was more to talk about before announcing.
>>1456319I can't believe its been a month, even some small character profiles would have been a nice drip feed
>>1456284That doesn't sound exciting at all
>>1456343Never been a fan of the little races in these kind of games before but the pammys hit the spot somehow. I love them so much.
>>1456343Really silly seeing the raccoon pammy thighs and clearly not wearing her bloomer, there's people that actually thought pammies are not getting lewded in some form.
>>1456353Mods will save us.
>>1456343I will lewd the pammys.
i want Blumine to BREED me
>>1456348Genshit lolis is as far as I go.
I wonder if MCs will get skins
when is this shit dropping im so fucking borrreeeedd
>>1456384best to just forget about it, we're not getting anything substantial until at least summer if not fall. I don't subscribe to the idea that it has to come out by january either, they could easily get an extension on that license.
>>1456384just stick to blue archive, nothing to see here
>>1456390i only play pc games
>>1456366If the thing they talked about is full character customization then yes, most likely.
>>1456391you can play BA on an emulator you know?
>>1456398name one that isnt aidsvirus
>>1456402mumu
>>1456402Android Studio if you have the best pc in the world.
Manjuu better play their cards right now that a proof exist.
>>1456525>sex sellspls don't fuck it up fat birb
The pendulum is swinging hard. We're on the verge of a coom renaissance.
>>1456398If you don't make your game natively available on PC I'm not playing it.
>>1456582Does that mean dmm will drop the region block soon?
>>1456624>nips>allowing easy access for gaijinsit'll be a disaster, they can't code shit.
>>1456624>It's hard porn and card companies are the reason they do more region block.>Card companies are causing platform like Gumroad to stop porn contentWhite men you have your own war to fight...
ChineseBros fell in love with a character from a game that hasn't even been released yet. Chinese people are really hungry for news, they are losing their minds
>>1456549speaking of fat birbs I didn't notice actual fat yellow manjuus in trailer
>>1456706we have cabbirds now, those fat cock lettuces everywhere(peipei is eating a manjuu in those postcards things posted earlier)
>>1456714I can't believe manjuu is fucking DEAD
Sexy manjuus soon
>>1456831thanks meryhsmy, I hate it
>>1456831Groovy manjuus are for idol 4. It was revealed to me in a dreamYou can daaance
>>1456862Can't wait to tentacle rape her with my dark magic
>>1456964You'll be waiting a long time since she won't exist, sorry yurifags.
>>1457108Rent free.
>>1457108The average harem schizo attention span and memory, everybody
>>1457154Wrong, I am asexual I don't get hard for 2d pixels. I'm just here for the farming and pokemon collecting.
>>1457196>they want to remove THISI fucking hate China so much.
sex with imouto
>>1457160do asexual people not get horny? o -oi mean have you ever tried being horny, it's pretty good.
>>1456394Wasn't that referring to selecting the MC, and was just mistranslated?
>>1457218it just said "character customization", could mean anything really
>>1457199>they want to remove THISaccording to who?
>>1457237 (me)so?
>>1456390i rather play AL than some platonic garbage
>>1457199They want to make this normal character that panders to (you) instead of being a MC without personality.
>>1457280I want her to be my imouto for (Me) but China hates incest so it's fucking over.
>>1457308>incestPretty sure it doesn't work in most countries. Even yours if you're American.But for normal family love it's acceptable.
>Calabiyau (卡拉彼丘) is a PVP focused gacha third person shooter>Mostly female characters, only 3 male characters from launch>Recently they added a male character>In the story, he is a terrorist who bombed a city and almost killed the MC's girlfriend>He lost his memory after a fight and joined the MC's team>Players hate him and demand the devs to change it>The devs thought that the problem was his dark skin, so they literally whitewashed him>Players raged even harder>This all happened when a certain other gacha TPS was growing in popularity>In a few days, Calabiyau lost 25% of its playerbase>Matchmaking became a pain in the ass, some people had to wait 15 minutes for a match>The devs announced they will delete the boy and rewrite the story, and send free 10 pulls>Emergency stream tonighthttps://www.bilibili.com/read/cv34083041
>>1457343Does this kind of thing only happen to males? In other games, people beg for former female antagonists (some that directly harmed the player) to be made into playable characters. Would the chinks care if the terrorist was a cute girl?
>>1457343They are not rewriting the story as far as I know. They don't have enough time to rewrite the event.Chineses are calling it Scaramouch of Calabiyau lmao.>>1457359I think if the female antagonist kill MC's girlfriend she won't get a free pass as well.
>>1457343lol post the info after the livestream
>>1457343kek, based chinks, hope they keep up the crusade, i want no males in games
>>1457343>he is a terrorist who bombed a city and almost killed the MC's girlfriend>He lost his memory after a fight and joined the MC's teamWhat were they thinking? No really. What was the thought process behind this? If you want a drama at least make him into antagonist figure
>>1457308I will be glad if both MCs end up being childhood friends from starland at the very least, i would headcanon them into being siblings.
>>1457434Literally trying to copy Scaramouch
>>1457465>forget to mute your phone in publicAZUR PROMILIA!
>>1457465You say that but i don't see you talk about it either.
>>1457196imagine bricking your account picking male mc over this.
>>1457474still better than trolling :>
>>1457467>AZURUPROMILU
>>1457343>thought they were in hot water for making a brown terrorist joke>thought the answer to an outcry for that was to make him white
>>1457196aaah blumine erotic plap plap plap plap
>>1457405tl;dr they will make an excuse for his come back by doing community designed character a.k.a. "you did it not us" while in fact the loudest people would be the male hating feministstl;dr of tl;dr they fucked it up, there is no turning back
>>1457792>chinks killed another gamewho can stop them?
>>1457375>Chineses are calling it Scaramouch of Calabiyau lmaoWhat does that mean? What is Scaramouch?
>>1457814Scaramouche was a villain in Genshin who did tons of evil things, such as almost killing you. But through a retcon tree everything he did got retconned and he became a playable character.
>>1457817Sounds mega gay, glad I never fell for that shithole game.
>Wants to fap>Check AO3>Check Genshin remember some of them are hot>Muh 120k+ fics>Filter by F/M>1k+ ficsSasuga
>>1457884Only girls read fanfiction. Men always fap to hentai doujin and animation. You're a faggot.
Stellar Blade is censored despite the studio's statementsAP will have a PS5 versionAPBros I don't feel good
>>1458002Consoles ruin everything, console players are the worst gamers. Sony is the worst gaming company. Only way it could be worse for us is if it was capcom making the game. This is why all these arguments don't matter, it's going to be hijabs for everyone by the time the game actually launches.
>>1458002bluminebros, it's so fucking over...
>>1458002Imagine escaping CCPland just to get censored by burgers
>>1458002Not surprised in the slightest. If Manjuu gets complacent there'll be consequences, hopefully they're smarter than Shit Up.
>>1458002And Shift Up quite literally knewIsn't this false advertising at this point?
>>1458042Yes but false advertising isn't a prosecuted crime. Every company practices false advertising. All advertisements are lies no product looks or functions like it is advertised but nothing is done about it because corporations own the politicians.
>>1458005>>1458013>>1458016>>1458025>>1458042Of course you fucking idiots didn't check for sources, it was literally a photoshop, the supposed "uncensored" outfit is nowhere to be found (no video or other images or sources).Having said that, I very much doubt that the version without the boob cover would had passed Sony's checks.
>>1458086>its fake news>but it's actually censoredkys
>>1458086Hello shit up employee
>>1458086There's video proof Shitposter-kun
I hope you incels suffer terribly for the rest of your short pathetic lives
Kek roasty getting toasty.
>>1458002At least there is Nornium.
>>1458115Now THIS looks promising
>>1458115Normium could be a success if the Steam version outright let you fuck the girls. Otherwise I don't see it doing well.
>>1458115>sci-fipass, i'm so burned out from post apoc and sci fi shit
I am still excited to see what's manjuu cooking
>>1458122Yes give me the 500 billionth generic medieval fantasy gacha please.
>>1458125such as? genshin...and?
>>1458126The tourist normalfag outs himself. Many such cases.
>>1458134So you run away when confronted that easily? lol
>>1458138You need to go back and stay there. This game has scary things you aren't ready for.
>>1458140Name these fantasy games retard. Oh wait let me guess Granblue? in 2024? lol lmao even
>>1458142>d-doesn't c-countI accept your concession, now please go back to whatever hole you crawled out from.
>>1458147>dead games count p-please believe m-me!lol no
>>1458086Retardhttps://streamable.com/7kt3pwThere are tons more outfits that got censored too, basically everything that shows bare breast skin.Very disappointing stuff, I'm curious if the studio is going to respond to this stuff after claiming that the game was going to come out uncensored, we'll know for sure when the physical copies arrive and we can do datamining on a unpatched version.
>>1458178Shit Up never acknowledged the censorship on Nikke so I doubt they will with SB
>>1458119At least it's not on Sony systems.
>>1458187it worked for them with nikke, the outrage died and they got off scott free, at least the studio thought they did.I thought the whole reason for them not doing business in china was to avoid third party censorship?
>>1458178>Pull another NikkeThey're the master of bait-and-switch at this point, and retards will eat their slop in millions
>>1458187The metatards, who are also whales, outnumber the coomers. Every banner people are way more obssessed with who is powerful than the coom. Lately they have been toning it down, and no one seems to care. Bay looks anatomically stupid when she kicks, you should be able to see her panties (you can in the burst), but it's obvious they are doing self censorship that no one asked for.
>>1458412Yeah fuck this company. I unironically have more respect for Nexon at this point.
>>1458125yes please give me the trillionth post apocalyptic sci-fi chinkcore "game"
Hey, Manjuu! Would you please tell me what's missing in the picture? I really want to know.
>>1458626Sewn, Wens, Snew
CBT1 doko...
hold your copium for september
>>1458671...2026!
>>1458730slut
>>1458730bet she's a screamer in bed
>>1458730>nah i'd win
>>1458412>>1458440how can Nexon afford to show the panties of the Blue archive characters fully modeled and unique on characters who are literally underage (and 2 who are canonically in commando)but shift up are afraid to show an adult character's panties ?
>only 1200 messages>not image bumped it's over. Dead game
>>1458907pretty impressive considering there's still no fucking news
If this is a dead game then the other upcoming gacha are.....grim......
CN censored Aether Gazer so they will censor this too
>>1459028You mean they removed them to respect the opinion of female players.
>>1459028>so they will censor this tooOnly if Manjuu decides to pander to feminists, that's the only reason shit like this gets reported in the first place, this is more devs trying to pander to that demographic than China government finger on it. Just a reminder that in Genshin fags like Venti and Lyney also got reported and literally nothing happened to them because the devs didn't bother censoring the fag characters, meanwhile they censored the girls to pander to the feminist crowd that plays genshit, CN government even used Venti as a example of a fag character
>>1459147It's been confirmed that Genshin female designs are the outcome of self censorship.Shanghai Gov didn't ask them to.
>>1459154That's exact my point, they self censor to pander to the feminist crowd, meanwhile fag characters that also get reported, nothing happens to them. AP will only censor shit if they want to pander to that crowd, reason why Aether gaze got censored is because they don't want to piss them off, while snowbreak in the other hand went the opposite way to pander to straight males.
>>1459159Yes. That's why I demand AP to lock MC to male and move female MC to normal playable.
>>1459159genshin i understand since they are double dipping into the fanbases, but aether gazer, it's like they hate money, it's not like women are huge spenders in that kind of game, this will only hurt them, they already make so little
>>1459164You and most of CN from what i see. They still want the girl, but only as a playable gacha character/main girl and having the story only on the Male MC perspective. Honestly, with the rise of games like Snowbreak and the downfall of games like Gfl2, i think Manjuu will end up listening.>>1459168>they still have male banners in that gameYes, they indeed hate money
>>1459168>aether gazerI agree. They absolutely have no reason to omnipander at this point, I really wanna know wtf Yongshi is thinking atm and why they haven't gone the waifupander route yet.I checked out the Aether Gazer thread and there seems to be actual cucks there so maybe that's their niche. Who knows.
>samefaging
>>1459154>Genshin female designs are the outcome of self censorshipWell that explains why the female bosses and enemies are allowed to show more skin than the playables.
This game doesn't need coomer designs, it only needs (You) pandering, see what happened in brown dust with the loli that's mega for (You)? Revealing oufits are secondary to the emotional demand that there is from high profile media these days.
>>1459227I kinda i agree with you that (you) pandering is the most important part and is the reason i end up dropped playing nikke since they stop doing that to appeal to the normiefag audience, but having characters being censored to appeal to feminists is fucking retarded.>brow dust 2The only thing i know about this game is that people consider to be the actual "cuck game" and they baited orc rape in it, idk what's the deal with this loli since i dind't see anything about it, but having a (you) character in this kind of game sounds like a desperate move that is way too late by now.
>>1459232>i end up dropped playing nikke since they stop doing that to appeal to the normiefag audienceHuh the fuck are you talking about?
>>1459235Did you play any of the past events since the anniversary? Pretty much every relationship Skk have with nikke now is platonic shit, the only girl you got shit done was Leona months ago and big event they even remove Skk like the anni. Characters like Elegg, the Maids, Moran got literally nothing and don't even get started on how awful the Christmas event was compared to the last one, they literally made Skk a giga fucking beta
>>1459232I can look past less revealing outfits if there's a good romance, having no romance and and a revealing outfit still feels dry since there will be no immersion or connection with the character(s)
>>1459241>I can look past less revealing outfits if there's a good romanceHonestly, i agree with that. Main reason i started nikke and end up dropping at the end at least for now, maybe they will start pandering again, but after so many events and a rezero collab i doubt it
>>1459239You should be in meds immediately, new nikkes never stopped being less for (You) than the previous.
Every day I fantasize about the day this game will finally release. I'm putting away $300 a month on a whale fund so that I'll have a couple of grand to blow when it comes out. I WILL c6 the high school swordswoman and the dual wielding elf day 1.
>>1459244Fucking retard, go read Moran and Elegg bonds and event and tell me that they have romance in it. Skk used to have sex with nikkes and now literally nothing happens and both the half anni and the anniversary they even removed the main character of the game and not i'm not forgetting how fucking shit was the last christmas event making him a fucking beta
>>1459243That's why i advocate for the game be much more romantic if they are going to be censored by sony, that's a battle you were not going to win anyways.
>>1459249I agree with the romance part, but not the giving up part. Not every game or gacha is publish by sony and games like snowbreak is proving that you can have lewd skins and characters at the cost of having your game being 18+
>>1459251for the sake of exposure and how high quality it wants to be, i think its a necessary evil
>>1459252>for the sake of exposure and how high quality it wants to beMaybe if the devs really wants to hit normiefag mainstream audience and the hit that PG13 with the marketing, but i also believe that we can have both romance and lewd designs if you just ignore those fuckers.
>>1459253Nobody can ignore them
>>1459253>ignore the niggest playing playerbaseIf the publisher/devs are fine with low revenue then yes.
>>1459253it aint happening, romance is your best bet at this point
>>1459256>>1459259You guys are forgetting the part that doesn't work for every game and sometimes is better to have a niche than trying to appeal to that normiefag audience and fail. Games like WuWa that is trying to do that, i cannot see doing well even tho they are pulling this move, many others games with omnipandering is also on the same boat.
>>1459261Forgot to mention that Snowbreak tried to pull this exact move and almost EOS because of it, finding his own niche is what saved the game even tho they are now a 18+ game>>1459260If the worst indeed happens, i would be fine with just (you) pandering and romance
You can't beat us if you keep falling for the bait.
>>1459264sex with my cannon wife
>>1459264You talk like a schizo
>>1459264who the fuck is "us", schizoid?
>>1459232I still remember when I sold that /nikg/ guild to Chink. I just really hated the final "artistic vision" done to many Nikkes by covering their asses at the time. Glad I jumped the ship early.
>>1459246>c6Constellation is bad gacha model from Mihoyo I hope AP ditches that.People hate Mihoyo gacha not only for 50/50 but the you get 1/7 of the characters thing
>>1459408There will have to be a compromiseNobody will like genshin monetization 1:1 and i'm sure they also know.But you either:-make the characters easy to get but give dupes a lot of power-make the characters slow to get but are complete
>>1459518Don't tell me Mihomo gacha is the former.You get only 1 character every 3 patches and you can't even farm the constellation.
>>1459523Mihoyo gacha is neither of what mentioned but AP's gacha won't be azurlane or even nikke tier generous, its time to stop with these delusional expectations
>>1459538Nah. This game will have harem + marriage, the rates will be user friendly, and there'll be lots of coom designs.
>>1459670lollmao even
>>1459671It will also have dorms with cuddling with several girls at the same time
>>1459670It will also have explicit sex scenes.
No need to take a jab at harem schizo like that
Nobody is taking jabs at anyone lil faggot
>>1459704>>1459700
Yurinigger has a fetish for getting BTFO it seems
Poll from Weibo, a female dominant platform, on what in game gender ratio they want the most.Equal ratio > All female > All maleAnother reminder that "omnipandering" games are for women
Take your schizophrenia somewhere else
>>1459998>>1459967
>>1459967Way smaller number of voters compared to the other poll.
>>1459967They just keep proving the point. Manjuu should be seeing the picture very clearly by now.
They will never remove blumine. stay mad
>>1459408You need multiple copies of a character to unlock their full potential in AL as well.It's a non-issue though since bulins exist and are easy to get.
>>1460274Honestly I would rather the chinks put their collective in autism in cancelling the PS5 port.
>>1460276That's the fucking point. You can't farm Constellation in Mihoyo-like game.
>>1460379>give up all that sweet snoy moneyrumao
>>1459967>Women want equal share of male:female ratio>Men want all female>But some men wouldn't mind playing omnipandering game as long as the 50% females are hotI can see why companies would prefer to omnipander.
>>1460554They've already blackrock retard, snoy is chump change compared to them.
>>1460569lol>>1459967the post specifically asks to think of the women as having been made out of female beauty standards, and that the girls could be yuri-pandering (for the mc) too.women are bi, no surprises there. though I prefer to think of it as women lacking any real capacity to love anything but their own children and are only aping men when they do it
moar bread?
2 pre regs on chink landnews soon™
>>1460771wuwa already got 20m prereg...
>>1460789for a game looking for mass appeal and that is about to release soon these are pretty grim numbers
>>1460790at least its getting released haha...
>>1460771it's so fucking over... guess we're staying on /vmg/
>>1460771>2 million without doing anything in 40 daysImpressive.
>>1460789It's over, 50 billions must pre-register
They shouldnt have released the PV until their CBT is ready for registration
why are you guys so rabid for news or cbt already? all the other big games got revealed a year before they could even get these
>>1460827did genshin follow the same approach
>>1460829genshin got viewed as chinese botw ripoff and you could say it was advertised as a singleplayer game until the very last minute
>>1460829It was revealed as far back as 2018 iirc
>>1460833I mean did it get revealed a year before anything happens>>1460836I see
>>1460771Once they start rolling out marketing campaign 30M+ will be a piece of cake.
>>1460856Assuming the game stays as it is? sure.
>>1460858ToF had 4M. Genshin had 8M. Wuwa 20M. Palworld has 25M+ players despite it being a janky B2P game. "Better Palworld with waifu" can easily reach 30M+.
>>1460872>30M+I meant to type 5 billion+.
>>1460875ZZZ that shitty furry Mihoyo game that censored all their women and reduced their breast sizes is sitting at 32M preregs right now. Why do you think 30M for an uncensored waifu kino is impossible?
>>1460879Anon, you can't be this retarded, right? You know they'll reach whatever the beancounters deem satisfactory.
>>1460879>censored all their women and reduced their breast sizeshow many of these preregs came before that happened?
>>1460879>He actually believes in 32 million furryturds
Pre registration numbers are all easily faked by the company so they don't really matter.
>>1460881>>1460883>>1460886Sure, but if a shitty furry game can claim to have 32M preregs, Manjuu should be allowed to claim 30M without anybody questioning it.>>1460882Only started after censor iirc
>>1460886ZZZ has the least hype I've seen for a Mihomo game but it'll probably still make millions.
>>1460886Depends on each company, i can easily see Promilia's pre regs numbers being organic, it's a lot for a new game by a mostly unknown developer and ok numbers for the scope and market reach of the game.
>>1460990OUR FUARKING HERO
>>1460990Literally me
Sex with lizards.
>>1460856If the marketing campaign involves buying views and stealth advertisement that Mihoyo is used to do then yes.
>>1460921>i can easily see Promilia's pre regs numbers being organiclol
>>1461099he's not wrong thoughbeit
>>1461109Maybe right now, but it won't be after they start the prereg milestones.
Sex update when
Why does the comfiest-looking game has the least comfy thread?
>>1461689We'll have a comfy thread once they remove the female MC and make this a harem farming game similar to Rune Factory.
>>1461689You better unplug yourself from all discussion when it comes out, it will be the comfiest gacha releasing and you will just make it worse by coming over to the zoo that will be the /vg/ thread. It will be full of yuribaiting, harem schizos, genshin trolls, wuwa trolls etc etc no matter what manjuu ends up doing with the mcs
>>1461689nyaggerjanny wasn't paid overtime.
>>1461703>rune factoryyou mean one of the most ruined franchises on the planet? i fucking hope not then
>>14620314 and 5 don't count.
>>1461009manjuu released the perfect loli dragon with fluffy tail in the wrong game
Predict Azur Promilia's SensorTower ranking once it releases globally. Rank 2, rank 3?
numberfags deserve the rope
>>1462098#1 if they add sex scenes
>>1462078>See-through dressOh...
>>1462098Below Uma
>>1462078Huh did they just reuse that character or something?
>>1462325uh? what, i don't see her in that pic anywhere
>>1462098>Waifukeks are the most loyal fanbase in the gacha sphere, Manjuu should cater to us.>BA lost 2M even with the anime buff.>Nikke can't even break 20M+ anymore on its half anniversary, the game used to be 40M+>Uma Musume used to beat Genshin easlylole
>>1462587>BA lost 2M even with the anime buff.Mahjong NTR drama>Nikke can't even break 20M+ anymore on its half anniversary, the game used to be 40M+Censoredshit>Uma Musume used to beat Genshin easlyThey got banned in CN for horse gambling
>>1462587BA refuses to release their more popular characters because reasons.
>>1462897can't rush eos
>>1462743>They got banned in CN for horse gamblingHow does that make their JP server drop from 35m to 6m?
>>1462743Brown Dust 2 and Snowbreak just went 18+.Azur Promilia will also be 18+.They will surely rise to the top.Anytime soon.
>>1462997you weren't supposed to point that out sis
>>1463022Nope, if anything i can see azur lane going ever further while promilia stays as it is since its reception is already big.
>>1462997Horsefucker bros...
>>1462897It's going the same path as Priconne global (literally a clone lmao) and everyone can just plan for the girl they actually wanted. Not like the new girls already in JP is something to look forward to other than alts, lel.
>>1463197>priconne global eosba bwos the end is coming...
>>1463022>Azur Promilia will also be 18+Not if Sony has anything to say about that.
>>1462587Baiting faggot but I'll play.BA has no reason to make any money there are no skins and you don't need to spend anything to beat everything unless you want to compete for top plat ranks which is pointless if you aren't a top 100 whale and even then you don't even need to spend much. Pretty sure it only makes money because nips have a weird loyalty to games and will spend money on them even if they don't need to.Nikke still makes tons of money and every faggot thinks the existence of genshit means anything less than 100+ million a month doesn't count. Every game goes down in revenue over time.Uma is a hyper niche game and there was never any possibility of it beating THE normalfag/homsexual/fujo gacha.Sorry if I hurt your steaming bussy feelings faglord. Come up with better bait next time.
>>1463022>Azur Promilia will also be 18+lollmaonoAlso releasing on playstation, you already know what that means. Even if they say they won't censor that is proven a lie with stellar blade. It's unironically over for fanservice for this game. It's still going to be fun and will have cute designs but if you are expecting lewd you are going to be very disappointed.
>>1463256I'll drink liquified copium and say that PC version will be uncensored
>>1463257Our only hope is modding is allowed. If we can get a robust modding scene it might save the coom.
>>1463258its made on unity so it will have modding 100%
