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>>92732988

>Thread Question:
What faction is having the most fun time in the universe of Warhammer 40,000?
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Fuck Orkz
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>>92736010
>he thinks the Kroot detachment is dead
lol
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>>92736065
Fuck off back to /slop/
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>>92736049
>What faction is having the most fun time in the universe of Warhammer 40,000?
for the most part Imperial nobles, so long as their area of the galaxy doesn't get some nasty Chaos invasion or Genestealer insurrection occurring in their lifetimes.
Outside of that and paying their taxes to the Emperor, they've got life pretty sorted.
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The ponytail is the ultimate eldar hairstyle. Cyberpunk tranny hair is cringe and flowing hair looks too unprofessional.
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>>92736084
You posted an example of a noble whose whole family tree just scorched itself.
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>>92736105
Gate Crushers is a pretty cool name for a space marine chapter though...
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>>92736136
Wait, what? That happened? I must have missed that.
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>>92736105
Did he freehand that banner? It came out really well.
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>>92736049
Please today Index spotlight.
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>>92736156
Nicht
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I like to think that when Tyrion and Teclis became Gods they became aware of the Warp and 40k, but when seeing the state the Eldar were in they simply decided to not get involved.
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>>92736122
>EDGEKEK
is this a new custom filter?

test:
c uck = cuck
edg e c uck = edgecuck
edg e c oc = edgecoc
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>>92736049
>The Orks are an unrelating infestation that's always having fun
>The Imperium is more like the Skaven, an unrelenting infestation that's constantly miserable
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>>92736169
Especially when they found out HOW the Eldar got in that state.
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>>92736081
Retard
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>>92736169
The craftworlds were always based though as they foresaw what would happen and left
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>>92736196
You say that but >>92731083
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>>92736208
There is like one AI thread per board but god forbid we get an /ai/ board
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>>92736171
>is this a new custom filter?
Probably, the previous post was deleted so fast and so utterly that's it's not even in the archives, a mod is scrubbing shit personally.
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>>92736169
>Nagash becomes the God of Death
>Takes one look at Necrons
>Decides he's going to make his own
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>>92736156
Have to wait til Saturday most likely. Hopefully it’s a good read at least.
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Honses
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>>92736169
They’re the children of the eldar. Warhammer is the sequel.
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Vehicle damage charts from 1st Edition look kinda neat.
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>>92736247
That tiger horse is pretty cool. I bet something like that existed for real 200,000 years ago or so.
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>>92736247
My granny used to sing this to me when I was a kid:

>Horsey, Horsey don't you stop
>Just let your feet go clipity clop
>Your tail goes swish and the wheels go round
>Giddy up we're homeward bound.
>We ain't in a hustle, we ain't in a bustle
>Don't go tearing up the road
>We ain't in a hurry, we ain't in a flurry
>And we ain't got a very heavy load
>Horsey, Horsey don't you stop
>Just let your feet go clipity clop
>Your tail goes swish and the wheels go round
>Giddy up we're homeward bound.

Its funny, even decades later, whenever I see a picture of a horse I can hear her singing it still. : )
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>>92736169
The eldar are as alien to the elves as a marine is to a normal human.
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>>92736270
That's so cute anon :)
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I think this anon from from ebay that is selling picrel had more fun in 40k than me
How do I start converting???
All the model are so expensive now... and plastic means we cant unglue everything with ease
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>>92736275
Turns out the toughest material in the universe is the spine of a dinosaur.
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>>92736169
one day tyrion and teclis will accidentally fish out an eldar soul out of slaanesh's gullet and everyone involved will be absolutely confused and horrified.
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>>92736247
Cute
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>>92736275
Usually it was when we were heading back to her house from the playground, and I was dragging my feet because it was an uphill walk.
- - -
Speaking of dinosaurs though, did Eldar Exodites ever actually exist as a faction you could play or were the model I see of them from time to time just based on a couple of bits of art from various books?
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>>92736284
>and everyone involved will be absolutely confused and horrified
I'd imagine the Eldar soul would probably be pretty happy about it.
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>>92736236
>the previous post was deleted so fast and so utterly that's it's not even in the archives, a mod is scrubbing shit personally.
Literally just means our resident schizo named E has jannies as friends and his pocket to do his bidding.
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>>92736296
just conversions, there would have been models for them in epic but they were unreleased and there was a profile for their raptor riders in one eldar codex but no actual models

but sure as hell one day they will get them, eldar are jes goodwin's personal faction and he has long had concept work already done for them
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>>92736311
Jes will get his day soon enough. They seem to like pulling at least a model out of obscure lore and bring it to life more these days.
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>>92736315
as much as I'm hoping for froggos, zoats seem to be the next squats, at least as far as GW tries to meme them itself

the only other unused old shit is what? thunder warriors? sensei? saharduins? enslavers?
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>>92736323
Well fair play to them, they'll find a load of fat hairy men playing 40k if thats what they're into I guess.
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>>92736270
that skin on the boyz looks p good. is it just contrast paint?
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>>92736269
I think this is more like
>I can be a full macho man and manly guy but still be gay
But i agree with you. It is kinda weird like someone makes a white pride Space Marine chapter than calling them “Woke Stomper“.
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>>92736304
Do eldar have a word for isekai?
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>>92736377
>Non-Binary pride, Bisexual Pride
Devilish to make them stand one by side
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>>92736187
If I saw someone show up with the yellow and purple guy I'd think they were an LA Laker's fan
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Any ork players get a game with the new codex?
What detachment did you run? How was it?
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>>92736270
That skin really pops.
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>move to S Korea for work
>only 2 hobby stores in the country
>go back to US for vacation
>bring some models I left over there back to SK
>old BT army box and SM half of leviathan
>sell the marshall NOS for like 18 usd a day after listing it
>sell the crusader squad NOS for 36 usd five hours after listing it

USD goes a long way here but regardless I really don't care anymore I just wanted to get rid of them. might sell the leviathan stuff and the redemptor too and buy more AoS. it's space marines so i know they will sell in a day.
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>>92736187
>pink never looks great on a space marine
I wouldn't paint them like that myself, but I appreciate that some people do. So many OC chapters I see are done up in drab or desaturated colors. And often the primary colors are chosen from a very small palette. Seeing marine paintjobs that unapologetically use "unserious" colors like supersaturated pink feels like a throwback to pre-3rd edition when the setting was associated with more campy and cartoonish visuals.
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>>92736398
BT sell like hotcakes for some reason. Not sure why. If you had a couple Sword Brethren sprues sitting around from before 10th launched you'd be in the money
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>>92736357
It is - Mantis Warriors Green. Don't be put off by the dull looking colour of the webshop image for it!
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>>92736411
It works well with your yellow too.
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>>92736398
Can drop Tau down a tier or two after the list he was running prior to making this went up 240 fucking points
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>>92736429
points are going UP? That's great news.
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>>92736423
You should samefag your offtopic posts less than you do. Check yourself back into the nuthouse, would be best for your mental health.
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>>92736396
See
>>92736411
It is in fact zero skill required! :)
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>>92736398
reminder
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>the new price hike is gonna be like 14% where I live
Should I just bite the 3D printer bullet already?
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>>92736443
bite the recast bullet. don't 3d print to save money. 3d print for cool 3rd party models.
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I've been thinking about this, could it be that the reason the emperor didn't make super humans more powerful than the Astartes to be the space marines wasn't because he already knew that the Horus heresy or something similar was going to happen and was planning for it, so he didn't make space marines more powerful so that the traitor space marines wouldn't be more powerful than that either?
To me he seemed to have the ability to make super humans more powerful than the Astartes to be space marines, but he apparently already knew that betrayal was going to happen, he knew that it was inevitable for some reason and so he planned for it. What do you think?
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Is Xpress dwarf skin the standard Vallejo skin paint? Wanted to give it a try after trying Guilliman Flesh and finding it to be pretty good for quick paintjobs, but it has a weird look to it.
>>92736443
The real 3D printer pill is to find someone else to print shit for you, much more convenient, about as cheap, ten times less health destroying.
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>>92736332
I don’t think anyone bought or cared about the one they released. I’m pretty sure they tested the waters and no one wants them in 3d space.
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>>92736429
Did it have tetras in it?
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>>92736434
Youre up there with the ben poster and soijak poster as people who go offtopic constantly and then whine when others do.
>Check yourself back into the nuthouse
Take your own advice retard
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>>92736433
Not when the rules stay the same. A riptide at 165 is silly, but putting it up to 180 doesn't really work when it's rules are nothing stellar. I'd rather it be 200+ and actually good.

Broadsides at 330/unit and no Tetra rerolls are more expensive AND worse, so..
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With these last price changes Sisters are going to dip below 1 point per dollar lmao
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>>92736472
Cant wait for AdMech to hit 3 dollars per point
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>>92736467
Yes, but it's not like you can just run the list without them, you have to replace them with other spotters (who aren't as good)
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>>92736467
The tiny fish?
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>>92736423
No, as in peter pan and the eternally young kids
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>>92736470
Broadsides kind of needed an increase considering how ludicrous they are in Mont’ka.
Also, stealth suits got their spotting abilities buffed, and if you’re hitting on 3s while being guided, rerolling hits and wounds of 1 is a little bit comparable to full hits.
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>>92736470
>I'd rather it be 200+ and actually good.
But then GW would have to do more than the bare minimum and address the issues rather than point changes until its not oppressive
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>>92736453
Dunno, ask /hhg/.
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>>92736480
Didn't stealth suits get a big spotter buff in the codex?
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>>92736485
Reroll 1s to wound is irrelevant to a unit with twin linked, and half the shots from missilesides are BS5, so they benefit greatly from full rerolls.

As do Sunforge, who also don't care about wound rerolls and are by far the best crisis unit
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>>92736466
To be fair, people rarely care about shit unless it's for their army and the fact the expansion was a limited and overpriced release didn't help.
The model itself was pretty fucking solid.

But I do agree that it doesn't warrant a whole army, at best one kit one can ally to different armies, but gw seems allergic to the concept for some reason.
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>>92736480
Stealth suits are good enough considering they now reroll hits and wounds of 1
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>>92736494
They're better, but full hit rerolls synergize with other units better than RR1s of both. They're also obviously a lot less durable
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>>92736384
Whats the amosities between these two? But love any gender or preference.
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Guys I think... I think 10th might not be a great edition. I think it might even be bad???
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>>92736499
Fair
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>>92736435
Good to know. It works well, much better than I would have thought. I also really like nuclear orks. The army will be quite a sight when finished.
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>>92736423
Can you put on a trip or something so I can filter your garbage posts?
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why does nu40k look so shit
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>>92736526
that table is fucking embarrasing
at least paint the terrain
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>>92736459
>The real 3D printer pill is to find someone else to print shit for you, much more convenient, about as cheap, ten times less health destroying.
The only true answer. I pay my friend in resin bottles and beer.
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>>92736511
Anon, by this point in 9th, every new codex they released were index eldar-tier compared to the previous ones. Halfway through 5th edition (a much vaunted one by grogs who didn't play) you could have your entire army picked up by grey knights by around turn 2 as they forced you to read matt ward fluff about how they're the bestest most awesomest marines ever (even betterer than the previous ones!). 3rd edition needed a 3.5 edition because it was just that fucking terrible.
Have you considered that 40k might just not be a very good game?
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Bought some old pewter stuff and found these two in the pile. Does anyone know what the guy to the left is? A Tallarn is my guess. Also does anyone know what weapons the commissar used to have? I wanna repair it as faithfully to the original as possible.
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>>92736526
GW catering to WAAC's and tourneyfags
noobs watching 40k on twitch and seeing nothing but L-shapes and wanting to "play like the pros"
people being more socially retarded than ever before, necessitating rules for every single edge-case that might be abusable
etc
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>>92736537
might be one of the old gaunt ghosts models
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What if the imperium of man discovered a new human world, and in that world humans created a new type of super soldier even more powerful than the space marines, as powerful as the thunder warriors, but without any of their defects and even able to reproduce that are used to hunt down shit like witches, corruption and beings of chaos and to fight the world's greatest threats? What would the imperium do about it? Would they want to recruit these super soldiers too or would they want to destroy them?
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>>92736453
>could it be that the reason the emperor didn't make super humans more powerful than the Astartes to be the space marines wasn't because he already knew that the Horus heresy or something similar was going to happen and was planning for it, so he didn't make space marines more powerful so that the traitor space marines wouldn't be more powerful than that either?
No. Space marines were the best thing he could make with the economy to support it. Custodes are the evidence he could make something more powerful, but each custodes consumed far more resources to produce to the point that they were unsustainable for his needs. Space marines were his affordable mass produced super soldier for conquering the galaxy, they were the best thing for his particular need. People are obsessed with this idea that the emperor could have somehow gamed the horus heresy to his advantage from having suspected or even known he would be betrayed, but this was never possible. He knew that there was a possibility that one or even some of the primarchs would betray him, but he never knew with enough certainty that he could deliberately make some of the legions weaker to put the loyalists at an advantage. If anything the fact that he was betrayed by the son he put the most trust in epitomises this.
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>>92736526
Why don't you try playing instead of whining?
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>>92736511
It is. The good thing is that in less than a couple of years we can see if 11th unfucks things a little.
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>>92736526
the sooner GW releases its own objective plates and its own cardboard terrain the better
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>>92736536
>Have you considered that 40k might just not be a very good game?
Yeah, play Epic instead, its much less tiresome! Plus it looks awesome having loads of wee dudes, tanks and flyers on the board and maybe a single Knight or Titan as the big beatstick.
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>>92736536
You've given me a lot to think about, anon. But In those other examples I was at least having fun playing in the shit. Now even that eludes me.
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>>92736537
>>92736550
Yes. Is from tanith first and only.
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Tetras, FW riptides and more moved to legends in the new Tau. I haven't played 10th since the first few months, and this just cements not wanting to touch it. I had already sold my Minotaurs, DA successors, unbuilt marines, and Thousand Sons since the start of 10th. Probably going to sell my Custodes, 50/50 on knights, but I'll keep my Tau at least.
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>>92736558
>we can see if 11th unfucks things a little.
if you want to see what gw wants to do with 11th edition you have to see what gw is doing with aos's 4th ed, because aos is gw's testing ground
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>>92736572
What's going on with aos these days? I have always ignored it.
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>>92736562
Maybe you’ve just grown up.
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>>92736526
>shit terrain
>retarded coffee mug coasters for objective markers
>dice tray in the middle of the board
The main one is the coasters being used. ebay has some great see through ones that look great on the table and dont interfere with the board at all but youve gotta advertise your shit club
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>>92736556
But if I remember correctly there was a scene where it was revealed that he and Malcador were playing against each other with one side being the imperium and the other being the traitors and the traitorous side was always led by the master of war, this makes it seem like he put Horus in that position on purpose knowing that he would lead the betrayal.
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>>92736582
I can guarantee you that is not the case.
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>>92736451
Recommend me some then
The one I saw are almost as expensive as GW...
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>>92736594
not going to spread them around for obvious reasons. Get access to yoyhammer and do some research based on what you find there.
>inb4 reddit
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>>92736571
>Tetras, FW riptides and more moved to legends in the new Tau.
People need to wake up to the fact GW (40k, kill team, aos, warcry, underworlds) and FW (hh, legions, tow, blood bowl, necromunda) are separating from each other completely

40k will lose chaos spawns due to tow and also every model, be it resin or plastic, done by forge world, that includes you, custodesfags and knightfags
fires of cyraxus NEVER EVER
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>>92736520
Honestly anon, I wouldn't even know how, sorry.
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>>92736606
that small amount of red on the rim is making me foam at the mouth
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>>92736606
Literally just put something in the name slot you tard.
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>>92736611
On the flamer? Should it be more blue?
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Can you play shooty orks?
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>>92736622
the rim of the base.
>>92736625
Depends on your definition of shooty orks. Shoota boyz are still garbage but with meks, walkerz, and nauts you can run a decent shooty list in dread mob.
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>>92736584
Nope, the game was based around the heresy as it was ongoing, it was not a speculative exercise, it happened just before the siege of terra began, that's the reason it was the war master vs the emperor. The game going to neither's expectation was literally the point.
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it's all so tiresome
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>>92736643
This is on top of other stealth price increases. The new abaddon used to be $75 and is now $85. I'm pretty sure they came out at like $35-$40 initially.
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>>92736337
They’re all pedophiles
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>>92736643
>we've done our best to keep prices down
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>>92736579
everything is reformatted as an ability, including basic movement and shooting or fighting
advanced rules, including spells that aren't on the unit profile, are optional modules
the way of playing they're pushing the most is spearhead (combat patrol), which makes me think that whatever they're pushing for it will eventually be normalised as the basic rules rather than the simplified alternative version
there the profiles of units are the same, but they lose any possible interaction with advanced rules, because of course spearhead doesn't play with advanced rules, instead they get rules to offset the imbalanced set ups like "this unit regenerates models or returns to the field after death" or "this model only arrives to the field by turn 3 or something"
and instead of advanced rules for each army and strategies, spearhead uses decks of cards for objectives and army abilities that tell you what you can do between a pair of things instead of having to take a lenghty choice yourself between dozen of things
morale is gone forever, not even in the form of battleshock, instead you get objective control and rules to remove it
everything has stats, so you can destroy spells or scenery in conventional ways
more emphasis on reactions
weapon options are even more simplified
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>>92736643
A 5% price increase is absolutely nothing compared to having to buy 1.5x as many models to field an army because of 10th's absurdly low points costs.
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>>92736604
I just have lost all interest in touching AoS or 40k. TOW and HH at least don't have GW's current "we won't make rules for anything other than the kits we sell with the exact wargear they come with" schtick. I was on the fence about picking up disciples of tzeentch for AoS, given the long list of things getting squatted in 4.0. GW then moved Blue Scribes and Fluxmaster to last chance to buy despite not being on the list which was the final nail in AoS's coffin. Custodes have been unfun to play the whole edition, and I don't like armiger spam so I had working on expanding my Tau. I had legitimately just started building my Tetras, but that's the end of my patience for following the current editions of 40k.
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>>92736659
Ok, so AoS 4th edition is just even more shrimplified.
Meaning 40k 11th edition will be shrimplified to shit as well.
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>>92736660
Just play lower points?
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>>92736660
a 5% increase every year is definitely NOT nothing
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>>92736676
NTA, the game is even more poorly balanced at lower points. Without a dedicated group on the same page you get shit like C'tan ant 1k.
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>>92736536
Or maybe all those changes happen because GW mistakenly tries to appease the whiners who constantly complain because their army got tabled and refuse to accept its because they suck at the game and blame it on <insert whatever army tabled them> being OP.
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>>92736537
Old Gaunt's Ghosts models. A lot of people forget that they had a release in metal a long time ago.
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Are 40k minis to scale across factions?
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>>92736659
>the way of playing they're pushing the most is spearhead (combat patrol), which makes me think that whatever they're pushing for it will eventually be normalised as the basic rules rather than the simplified alternative version
That's wrong, they make it clear that spearhead is its own module, the base is the core rules which is equivalent to 40k's open play. It's pretty much the same as 40k where spearhead will be core rules + special rules, rather than matched play being spearhead + 1500 points. It's just GW giving a name to how rules already work.
>morale is gone forever, not even in the form of battleshock, instead you get objective control and rules to remove it
honestly GW should do the same for 40k, ever since 8th edition GW have been fundamentally unable to properly balance morale rules and so they've ended up being either always ineffective or overly punishing to some and insignificant to others. Just ripping the bandaid off and getting rid of morale is better than half hearted attempts to make it matter like battleshock.
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>>92736674
oh another thing I've forgotten about

army composition becomes linked to the heroes you take, for example, imagine of the only way to field a gravis unit without wasting command points and likely going second, was by having a gravis hero, and similar requirements for other units
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Did they forget to post news today? There's a codex going up for preorder this Saturday. Shouldn't they be making some token effort to promote that?
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>>92736689
There was a local shitter who something awful like a flyrant + scythed hierodule in 750-1k point games last edition.
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>>92736707
Not really. Scale is dependent on when the minis were made.
Termagaunts have gone from scary dog to "holy shit this thing is 8ft across" over the years
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>>92736707
yes, but also no, primaris, sisters, votann and some guardsmen are taller than they should be, most vehicles are smaller than they should be (because they can't fit the number of models they supposedly do)
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>>92736725
>primaris
Are the correct size, shit like new sisters and guardare the ones that are too big.
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>>92736722
I like to think this evolution happened within the setting and that the little bugger was what the tyranids looked like when they attacked tyran
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>>92736708
>Let's get rid of morale and dumb the game down even more!

Do you guys even want to play wargames? Or do you just want to play with toy soldiers in a glorified board game?
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>>92736669
>Right over there Lord, that is the one calling us troon-adjacent
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>>92736261
try a hundred years ago
adn yes they're trying to engineer it back
https://www.quaggaproject.org/
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>>92736688
Its in line with inflation though, what can you do.
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>Are those elves... DRESSED LIKE CLOWNS??? BY THE EMPEROR, BELOVED BY ALL, I'M GOING INSANE!!!! SAVE ME MALCADOR!!!!
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>>92736579
It's imploding on itself. TOW has them terrified and they're trying to dumb things down even more for wider appeal. Game itself is on its deathbed, setting is practically dead already (not that it was ever that much alive to begin with). This is likely the laat edition of AoS.
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>>92736763
only women were killed by the clowns and it's always the side with the most women that loses the blood games
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>>92736763
Custodes chicks belong to Harlequin dicks.
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>>92736763
these mfers are short as fuck
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>>92736777
They're exactly as tall as primaris in both models and lore
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>>92736361
If I'm making a White Pride army, it's gonna use the old metal Redemptionists
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>>92736765
>TOW has them terrified.
How could GW do this? Doesn't GW know how much work GW put into AOS to just go and let GW kill it like that?
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>>92736739
Thats a sweet paintjob but the err... "tit highlighting" on her left tit (our right) needs extended upwards a bit so shes not looking like one titty is bigger than the other titty.
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>>92736781
Aren't Custodes supposed to be bigger than Marines?
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>>92736737
40k as it exists is barely a wargame anyway, it's an abstracted board game. Your models barely interact with the table and vice-versa outside of deployment zones and objective disks.
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>>92736579
The squatting of BoC and Bonesplitterz has left an understandably sour taste in many's mouths but the reception to the new edition previews seems to be mostly positive so far
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>>92736790
bigger than firstborn, not bigger than primaris
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>>92736737
Has morale ever mattered in 40k? I am asking sincerely; I started in 8th edition, and in the three editions I've known, morale has always been something that you ignore completely.
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>>92736799
>Bonesplitterz
their models are not even being kept around for tow like beasts are
gw killed savage orcs because they think they're a racist stereotype
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>>92736737
Morale as it stands hardly fucking does anything dipshit, Nids are a testament to that fact.
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>>92736536
3rd ed needed a 3.5 because it was such a MASSIVE shift from 2E. From Army Construction, to losing the Psychic Phase, the major change to assault, Saving Throw modifiers to AP, Vehicles, etc. It was essentially an entirely new system.
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>>92736806
If you lost a morale check in earlier editions like 4th/5th, your models would run 2D6 (3D6 if jumppack) away from the board and you would have to roll a leadership check every turn to rally them so that they could act normally. Space marines could choose whether to pass or fail this check as their 'army special rule'.
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>>92736793
That's my point. It used to be more of a wargame in the past, but more and more casuals keep invading the hobby and demanding "streamlined" rules because "I don't have all day to dedicate to a game". My response to those people is if you can't dedicate a Saturday to playing the game, then this isn't the hobby for you.
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>>92736806
>Has morale ever mattered in 40k?
No because marinepigs would cry otherwise.
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>>92736765
Masturbate before you post.
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>>92736643
you guys bitch and moan about fem custodes, ugly female sculpts, price hikes, army squatting, black characters, and every army becoming more horde-y

But then James releases an $45 IW upgrade sprue or an Emp Children "codex" with 5 unique datasheets and everybody creams their pants and consooms like good little piggies

>>92736763
why are their arms so long?
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Bring back Harlequin Land Raiders
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>>92736821
I agree with that. The game was always clunky with regards to templates, line of sight, etc. but now it's clunky in another direction except this direction is all about buckets of dice and leaning more into dodgy rules.
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>>92736826
those are some hairy armpits
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>>92736825
I would love for that pic to be real, but I've only ever encountered one skaven player that weird.
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>Tau got nerfed harder than fucking Necrons
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>92736826
Yeah, I was the anon posting the Warhammer Compendium images last night ... I lost the will to post any more once I reached the Harlequin section. Jesus christ, they had some bad art, how did they ever sell any minis?
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>>92736737
No I'd rather we get rid of non-functional mechanics if GW have proven they're unable to make them work. If you want "muh real wargames" then go jerk off to napoleonics with the rest of the sad old fucks, warhammer is already very far removed from "real" wargames, if you want that experience then play something else.
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>>92736853
They deserve it. They had nearly crawled their way up to an even 50/50 winrate. Can't have that.
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>>92736850
I regularly find Ork players who do that sort of thing and it always amuses me.

Just this last LVO I played a dude wearing a suit and tie who theatrically narrated everything that happened to 'set the scene'. We played on a clock and he was very quick with his exposition. It was impressive storytelling actually.
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>>92736825
Effective use of psychological warfare. That dude knew exactly what he was doing and how it would affect his opponents. Also, based judges for letting him use such tactics. Battles aren't just fought on the tabletop, boys.
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>>92736846
They are french.
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>>92736865
Absolute retard and "I started with 8th edition" take l.
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Article today is a Tau faction focus.
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>>92736871
that dude sounds extremely based
I once did a fluffy "lets try some stupidly fun homebrew rules" orks v necrons game where we both dressed up in suits and ties and spoke like gentlemen the whole game. We should've brought tea and krumpits but didn't think about it at the time.
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>>92736890
They picked a fucked up time to do it with those point increases
>nearly 50% increase for kroot
>20-30% increase across the board
Jesus the factions getting gutted.
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>>92736826
More releases for harlequins that aren't just a manifestation of cegorach or a conversion sprue for wraiths I feel would be a waste, and straight up giving imperial technology to the eldar feels out of character.

Instead I propose you this:
>harlequins' tank is called Mimic
>it's a shapeshifting multidimensional piece of technology that can project illusions and warps from place to place and takes on the forms of enemy warmachines for added confusion
>it's actually just an excuse to deploy any vehicle or tank from any other faction and painting it in harlequins colours
>acts as moving webway portal and has an infinite transport capacity for extra clown cars jokes
eldar version of the looted tank
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>>92736893
A couple of my friends were playing a game and they decided to roll the scatter dice to see where a valkyrie would crash after it was shot down and they had a guy come up and loudly complain that what they were doing was against the rules and that they should stop doing it.
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>>92736881
I literally said morale was better BEFORE 8th edition you mongoloid. The current morale systems of either "you failed number so more of your guys die" or "you failed number so now your guys act the same but don't count for objectives and ignore orders (stratagems)" are both shitty an non-functional systems, especially when in most cases it's hard to actually fail the number check so it ends up being mostly pointless. You're better off focusing on what actually works about a game rather than trying to force mechanics for the sake of tradition.
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>>92736846
I thought the same thing lmfao
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>>92736831
Its the constant pre-measuring of everything being allowed these days that bugs the absolute shit out of me. Coming mainly from being an old edition 40k player, and then taking a break from it for literally 15 years while still carrying on Necromunda and Epic and now coming back to it in 9th, I just cant fathom why GW felt the need to flip the situation on its head and now allow everything to be pre-measured in 40K.
You literally cant do it in any of their other games, barring maybe AoS (I never played it), so why is it allowed in 40K? It feels so wrong to me. Its very rare you can do it in any other game system too, 40K is definitely an outlier.
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>>92736903
I say, some hooligans haven't the slightest concept of fun. My genuine sorrow goes out to those two gents.
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>>92736860
>Jesus christ, they had some bad art, how did they ever sell any minis?
Ironically the minis for their time were very detailed, actually better than the art that inspired them. Harlequins did mostly piggyback off of the popularity of being wood elf wardancers but in space.
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>>92736914
I really liked it when certain models had special rules allowing them to get away with things like this: karskin/stormtroopers had the rangefinder rules for example. A lot of games I played in 8th had people pre-measuring auras and shit so that they could move their forces in exact accordance with their stacking bonuses among other things.

I took a break at the tail end of 5th and came back for 8th and that was some real whiplash, especially seeing people that took to the field with three baneblades and a loyal 32 -- just fucking nuts.
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>>92736914
Because not allowing pre measuring just increases cheating by a ton.
That and if you know the table size its piss easy anyway
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>>92736783
GW realizing nobody likes AoS took way too long.
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>>92736526
I fucking hate pie plates more than anything else
Physical, base-having, diegetic, actual model objectives should be mandatory
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>>92736722
WAIT. The new Gaunts are even larger than the BFM ones? WTF. I've already resigned myself to using my 2nd Ed Termagants as Neurogants because of the size difference.
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>>92736914
>and then taking a break from it for literally 15 years
I'm sorry anon, but premeasuring died in like 2009 for all mainline systems
part of why fantasy died was because cannons became deadly accurate due to it to any monster, warping the meta towards hordes of basic infantry that made the entry cost unbearable
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>>92736948
I remember when the fantasy scene at my LGS was strangled in the cradle because people slowly realized that their starter boxes weren't going to cut it and many of them would need many, many more models to play a standard game. Seems kind of similar to current 40k except the prices are so much worse.
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Our game LFGS group discussed the Tau invading modern-day Earth, our Earth.
Most agreed that current-era Earth armies could fend off a Tau invasion since we use modern-day tactics and strategies unlike the backward Imperium and also we have nukes. A lot of nukes.
Do you agree?
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>>92736960
Retard the imperium has nukes
They just suck compared to what they fight so they are useless
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>>92736806
As someone who has played IG and Nids since late 2E/early 3E....dude, you had NO IDEA.
You could lose entire squads because of a break, no matter how many models you had left.
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>>92736960
Anon your LGS might be legitimately ficking brain damaged as a collective. Please check the store for any kind of gas leaks or similar hazards.
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>>92736944
no, they're slightly smaller, if anything, but due to the pose and the back spines they look taller there
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>>92736960
>Do you agree?
Tau have space tech and singularity bombs
so, no, tau would win
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>>92736960
T'au have complete space (and thus air) superiority, and their suits and armor utterly shit all over what we field. Nukes are not a consideration because the only thing using them would accomplish is a scorched earth which fucks us over more than them.
But the most important part of why modern earth doesn't stand a goddamn chance against the t'au are that they're really fucking good at propaganda. Frankly, they don't even have to lie, they can literally just tell everyone "hey, if you join us you all get awesome tech and big titty blue bitches" and half the planet surrenders immediately.
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>>92736990
I would give up on earth and join the tau if given the chance, I can't stand it here anymore.
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>>92736990
>But the most important part of why modern earth doesn't stand a goddamn chance against the t'au are that they're really fucking good at propaganda. Frankly, they don't even have to lie, they can literally just tell everyone "hey, if you join us you all get awesome tech and big titty blue bitches" and half the planet surrenders immediately.
This. If Tau showed up and offered even basic commodities people would likely side with them en masse.
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>>92736931
>>92736914
I still miss guessing ranges when firing Indirect weapons.
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>>92736934
Well every other game manages without it.
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farsight +15
breachers+10
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kroot +20
farstalkers+15
riptides+15
skyray +10
fireknife 150
starscythe 130
sunforge 170
rampagers 110 for 3
flesh shaper 55
lone spear 90
trail shaper 65
war shaper 60

everything forgeworld except Tiger Shark, Manta and Taunar are now Legends. Yes that includes Tetras.

montka detachment rule erratad to be turns 1-3 everything has assault and if guided has lethal hits
(as written in codex was lethal hits 1-3 and if guided had assault)
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>>92736980
Oh yeah. I've yet to get me a starter set so I can compare but I'm seeing they're chunkier because of the new back-carapace style.

I'm totally going to try converting some of them into Barbgaunts since i already have enough termagants.
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>>92737030
>montka detachment rule erratad to be turns 1-3 everything has assault and if guided has lethal hits
jesus thats a huge nerf
What the fuck GW
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>>92736990
>the only thing using them would accomplish is a scorched earth which fucks us over more than them.
You're severely overestimating the fallout from an airburst warhead.
Nukes wouldn't be effective because they're shit against properly dispersed armor formations, not because of radiation. They might fuckup an airborne asset but that's an inefficient use of a warhead.
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>>92737027
every other game isn't the most popular game, 40k filters all the people who would otherwise make lack of measuring a problem of cheating if they played those other games.
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>this art
What went right?
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>>92736105
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MAPs_Pride_Flag.svg
lol
lmao
GW endorsing pedophilia now.
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>>92737036
Sounds like a buff? You get to keep lethal hits throughout the game, and assault is the most important in the early stages of the game.
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>>92737052
Is it hard to drive when you're colorblind?
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>>92737051
Holy shit id fuck that no homo
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>>92736948
Well GW is just dumb as shit then.
Anyway, I've mentioned my absolute disdain for pre-measuring on here before and almost everyone disagreed with me on the matter, they all seemed to think that pre-measuring is the dogs bollocks.
I'll happily be the crotchety old fart who wants his old rules back :) I genuinely can't see the appeal in it.
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>>92736526
Try to remember how bad things once were

Blast template arguments, broken lists that would stay that way for entire editions. The times have been bleak.

Sure, 40k is balanced for competitive play these days but most armies are generally well balanced compared to the historical norm for codex power level variations.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/08/starting-a-tau-empire-army-in-warhammer-40000-everything-you-need-to-know-from-painting-to-lore/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tau&utm_content=tau080524

>Even Humans have been integrated into the T’au Empire. Known as Gue’vesa to the T’au, the number of Human auxiliaries incorporated into the Empire is continually growing, and they prove as useful to their new allies as they are hated by the Imperium they have abandoned.

They keep mentioning the Gue'Vesa in codexes, novels, and now in this faction codex. It makes me think that they are going to release some Gue'vesa units in the future at least for Kill Team.
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>>92736957
GW has made extremely certain that a starter box (combat patrol) is completely playable right away.
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>>92737013
Good old IG mortars.

>>92737042
Maybe cheating is just more endemic in Warhammer Tournaments because warhammer tournament players are the worst sort of people. Its the same reason why they got rid of blast markers too isn't it, because tournament twats would bicker and moan about who was and was not under the template to an excessive degree.
Catering for tournament players is never a clever idea, it just makes the game shit.
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>>92737054
Anon your guiding units no longer have lethals.
So at minimum 50% of your units (more like 60% in practice) no longer get lethal hits when they ALL used to.

Getting it turn 4-5 isnt worth the trade.
Its a huge nerf
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>>92737075
This was back during around 5th edition 40k & 8th edition fantasy if memory serves. You could not put out a 2000 point army for fantasy from a starter box. People still played 1000 points for 40k (1500 was pushed as the norm) which you could just about get from a starter box and maybe one or two extra boxes.
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>>92737061
I have no strong feelings about pre-measuring. But I will advise to not take (you)s in these threads as being indicative of anything. There are schizos who will sockpuppet like crazy about things they don't actually know anything/care about.

I wish archived threads would display posterids so we can see the insanity in retrospect.
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>>92736187
The (((scary))) trans colors go better on AdMech. Yes, I know how I'm using my parentheses.
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>>92737086
I see, I see.
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>>92737091
This looks bad
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I'm gonna paint my Night Lords on volcano/lava bases. Should I go for silver or brass trim? I don't want to use gold, as I already have other marines with gold trim
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>>92736643
I don't know what these people think they're doing, etsy is literally right over there. You can find all sorts of proxies on there for half or less the cost of GW's original stuff.
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>>92737030
is this legit?
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I want to paint a molten metal scheme for my daemon Engine/Vashtorr army, but I can't decide on if I want to do a traditional orange fire, lime green warpfire, or magenta warpfire.
>>92737072
That would actually be pretty cool. I hope that they keep doing "weird" kill teams. Yeah, it's great that they're finally making stuff like new Striking Scorpions and Mandrakes, but the boxes that really impress me are the weirder/more niche ones like Gellerpox and Fellgor.
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>>92737091
Your Biologis needs to lay off the Pepto-Bismol
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>>92737091
Kind of boring. Dip it in nuln oil.
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>>92737058
>>refusing to see the obvious
You can pretend the problem isn't there if you like, but the issue remains regardless.
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>>92737051
dunno, looks a bit silly
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>>92737150
The thing you posted is literally not there in the picture so idk what the fuck this is supposed to mean
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>>92736156
Not even codex rules apparently.
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>>92737072
I can see them dropping an upgrade sprue into a box of cadians for a guevesa kill team like they're doing for brood brothers
honestly I'd make the upgrade kit have enough spare bits to also convert votann into allied demiurgs
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I heard on a 40K law video on YouTube that for some reason the gray knights are hunting down the remains of the Ynnari.Is it true and if so what's up with that?
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>>92737167
Wouldn’t work. You would need a new kit. They would look different head to toe.
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>>92737091
nah, not digging it there either, sorry anon. Might be better if you grunge and oil up his metallics a good bit so they're a lot darker.
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>>92737030
Lol, at least the Custodes players have someone to laugh at now.
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>>92737054
Assault is important in turns 4 and 5 so that you can advance and cleanse/homers/signals with whatever is left of your army at that point
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>>92737168
the "where are they now" lore is the lowest tier of canon and often subject to change.

The Ynnari are kind of shitcanned and retconned at this point. most likely GW once had plans of rolling up Deldar and Eldar into the same range with some HQ units to tie them together. The problem was that the fanbase hated Yvraine and her story was basically the same as that dragon girl from game of thrones.

It really did not help that in early 8th edition the Ynnari were completely broken as well with Warlocks buffing dark lances, etc.
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>>92737178
Why not? giving them different heads and weapons would be more than enough
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>>92737186
To be fair a ton of things especially now that they fucked with drones will have a gun drone so most units have assault.
Losing lethals for guiding units is huge however
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>>92737199
Do they still have that death God thing?Understand why the gray Knights of all Space Marines would be hunting them down I mean tearing them is kind of going against the main job description.
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>>92737201
Why would they have the same pants, shoes; kneepads, chest armour and shoulder armour?
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>>92736049
>What faction is having the most fun time in the universe of Warhammer 40,000?
Servitors, just happy doing their job, simple as
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>>92736758
Buy proxies and/or recasts for cheap.
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>>92737181
>>92737136
How much Nuln Oil? This new recipe is too thin and my old Agrax is so empty as to become paste as the bottom of the pot. Should I just add a teaspoon of water to old washes to keep them going a bit longer?
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Do the Deldar have a table for rolling names? If not, what would be a good source for inspiration, Latin?
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>>92737220
why wouldn't they? pants made for humans would look like pants humans wear, when tau integrate a population into their empire they don't override completely their own looks, the armour isn't branded or very particular, the one distinctive element is the stylised sculpted pecs and they would actually be a very useful visual reminder that these are humans even should their faces get covered by optic equipment and helmets
>but the extra finger and hooves
there is an order by which someone recognises someone else, and hands and feet are low on the list
it's by no means a necessity, but it's also not a necessity to not have them
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>>92736725
>most vehicles are smaller than they should be (because they can't fit the number of models they supposedly do)
Even just looking at say the Ravager, there's a clear disconnect between the size of the models and the "door" on the lower deck.
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>>92737270
These would be soldiers, not civilians. They would have a uniform the tau made.
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>>92736787
>one titty is bigger than the other titty.
That's common though.
Or so I'm told.
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>>92737217

So far I believe that it still has rules and since it is such a new sculpt I believe that it will continue to have rules for years.

This edition should be a "shit or get off the pot" moment for whatever GW wants to do to forward eldar lore. If you remove the Eldar resin and forge world units then you're left with a mostly new sculpts and a very tidy codex.
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>>92737260
dnd dark elf names
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>>92737289
nta, and it is, but it's relatively minor. Not one 40A and the other 36C.
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>>92737260
>pick evil sounding words
>smash together
>change the letters but keep the phonetics
Done.
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>>92737072
>utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tau&utm_content=tau080524
Anon, you idiot.
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>>92737260
Pretty sure all the Killteams do. Look at the book.
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>>92737260
SHARD SPLINTER EDGE DARK
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>>92737336
What?
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>>92737357
You don't need to copy and paste the tracker part of the url for it to work.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/08/starting-a-tau-empire-army-in-warhammer-40000-everything-you-need-to-know-from-painting-to-lore/
We don't need to know that you saw the link on Facebook and were successfully reached by their marketing campaign.
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>>92737328
PORNTIPS GIZZARDO
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>>92737355
nice
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>>92737355
I'm thinking of doing something similar with some Ork bits that I have, making them part of the terrain as trapped in a jar gitz.
Any suggestions for the "glass" material?
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>>92737367
I, actually, saw it on Twitter.
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>>92737091
Just a thought anon, but if you're going to be using blue as the cloak colour for your ad-mech, it might be an idea to consider using a golden brass as the main metallic colour to contrast the blue cloak better compared to the silver current scheme.
Pic is just a quick and dirty photoshop to show you what I mean.
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>>92737281
ok, but why would the tau make their uniforms completely different, aside from improving on the materials of their armour? even their own fire warriors and pathfinders are not that much more armoured up
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>>92737316
>40A and 36C
>two different band sizes for one woman
i hope you understand why this doesn't make sense even as a hyperbolic comparison
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>>92737382
Plastic pipe of some kind. Hardware store maybe.
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>>92737417
He’s never kissed a girl.
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>>92737382
it's just resin poured into a tubular mold with a miniature inside.
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>>92736914
You reek of newfag when you start your posts off like this.
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>>92737465
You reek of troll.
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>>92736866
If Tau continued on with their current index points, they’d be too of S tier
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SEX WITH ELDAR LADIES
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>>92737030
They’re still exceptionally solid considering what the new rules bring to the table. Without increases like this, they’d be top of the meta.
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>>92737417
I'm going to be honest, I'm in a meeting so I googled "breast cup size" and picked two different options from a chart. I didn't even think about girth.
>A and C
there.
She's a demon anyway, who knows.
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>>92737030
90% they just hit breachers and riptides because no one was going to run fireknife and starscythe suits
Still wont
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Anyone got that pic of the model with a billion coats of varnish?
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How to create a first person open world 40k milsim with realistic physics and photorealistic graphics
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>>92737036
>>92737086
They changed it because due to technicalities, you couldn’t actually make units gain the assault keyword through guiding as in order for a unit to become guided, they had to be eligible to shoot, which they couldn’t if they advanced without previously having the assault keyword before.
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>>92737567
Arma already has a mod for 40k
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>>92737571
Arma is shit tho, especially with pathetic attempts to mod it
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Why is GW selling so few terrain kits?
I look everywhere, and they are out of stock or gone completely.
What the fuck is going on?
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>>92737090
>I wish archived threads would display posterids so we can see the insanity in retrospect.
That would be an absolute godsend.
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Fuck this place has been getting worse by the month.
I haven't seen a bunch of people who I had witnessed posting during 9th. I can start to understand why.
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>>92737579
Real men make their own terrain anyway
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>>92737583
It’s only better when they rangeban london or Ben is back in the asylum.
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>>92737260
well their weapon and unit names are all english, so i would assume english names are what they go by.

jeff darkshard

henry paindrinker

archon wellington

susan stiletto

etc
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>>92737571
Urgh, no no, I want a 40K version of Wargame Airland Battle.
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>>92737589
>Real men make their own terrain anyway
While I don't doubt that for a second. What do the not real men do in the meantime?
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>>92737567
sir, this is an imageforum not a searchbar
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>>92737607
Buy non-GW proxies online obviously. Its just terrain, it doesnt need to have GW's stamp of approval for you to use it in 40k.
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>>92737607
I dunno, ask your boyfriend.
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>>92737569
Which nearly every unit had because of gun drones

And they didnt JUST change it
They completely changed the detachment rule in a major way.
If the only reason was because they had shit wording for assault then why not just change how spotting works
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>>92737567
>Enter 40k milsim
>Spend about two minutes sorting out kit and keybinds
>Wizard on a jetbike flies past and hits you with a lightning bolt, killing you instantly
>Close game
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According to the Custodes codex, an alliance of Custodes groups vowed to hunt down Vashtorr and destroy Wyrmwood.
What are their chances of succeeding?
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Are there any good novels/novellas/short stories about Sisters of Battle?
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>>92736146
Aranthian Succession is what happened. The combination of a warp storm, worldwide power outage, riots and a crisis of faith led to Lord Helmawr getting grievously injured. Lady Haera, the 13th daughter of the Lord then proceeded to kill all of her siblings to take his place. After she did that, she got ousted and is currently hiding in hive Secundus due to the riots being organized by a rival house that wants to rule Necromunda. It’s all in the recent Necromunda campaign books.
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>>92737653
Zero.
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>>92737668
>hiding in hive Secundus
Isn't that the one with all the genestealers?
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>>92737662
Why does she have vent holes in the side of her shoe-boot and why is there noxious fumes coming out from those vent holes? Do Sisters of Battle all have smelly feet?
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>>92737683
That's not noxious fumes, that's fire. It's a design choice to be metal as fuck.
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>>92737653
>chances of killing a named character with a model
lol
lmao
There is no grim or dark when the characters are named and titled.
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>>92737683
They're flame projectors. They make it look like she's walking really fast.
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>>92737696
40k was never grimdark.
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>>92737519
Tetras were a big force multiplier, and theyre gone. Montka was the best detachment and was nerfed. Didn't really need all the points bumps to be as severe.
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>>92737683
Imagine the smell
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>>92737683
so she can scorch the earth she walks upon and be an inspiring and frightening symbol of holy retribution and purgation

and look smoking hot
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>>92737696
>
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>>92737696
Custodes are trained in arresting and imprisoning daemons.
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>>92737715
the death of characters that can respawn is irrelevant
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>>92737724
Yeah… with bullets.
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>>92737662
is that on a daemon world or some shit?

>sky on fire
>giant towers of skulls in the background
>random cauldrons spewing smoke
>some flying imp daemon thing
>skulls underfoot
>bizzare mind bending perspective
>sky is fire and lightning
>there bones under the skulls. apparently they're fighting on planet skeleton.
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>>92737724
why haven't they arrested a single demon primarch?

hell, magnus was on the moon not too long ago
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>>92737643
>Which nearly every unit had because of gun drones
Eh. Riptides and Ghostkeels couldn’t take those, and Hammerheads and Skyrays would much prefer Smart Missiles over Gun Drones nowadays. I’ll concede that Crisis Teams now probably want to take Enforcers now, but the assault buff to Mont’ka makes the Coldstar and gun drones a bit more redundant.
While only 50% of your army can get lethal hits, the 50% that can will always disproportionally benefit from it more than the other 50% that’s spotting. Lethal hits on a Riptide is a lot stronger than lethal hits on a pathfinder team or stealth suits.
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>>92737579
GW is not selling much of anything these days given that we don't buy their products anymore. Which, of course, means that they're not producing anything new either. It's over.
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>>92737733
Sisters of battle are just daemon worshippers, of course they'd hang around on one.
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>>92737694
>>92737698
>>92737708
Oh, that is both metal as fuck and stupid as fuck in equal portions, very 40K.
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>>92737703
Nah, I think they did. If they continued on with index-tier points, Tau would have swept the competition and gotten absolutely annihilated in the summer dataslate
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>>92737753
You think a Montka list was 240pts undercosted, in addition to having too strong of a ruleset? Delusion.
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>>92737727
Anon, daemons can respawn too.
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>>92737736
I would honestly read a book about the Adeptus Arbites trying to arrest a daemon primarch, it sounds like it would be entertaining.
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>>92737743
Yea but under the old rule 100% of the army could get lethals.
Honestly in my testing Montka and Kayun were fairly close.

Now Kayun just sort of shits on it.
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>>92737777
yes, that doesn't change my statement
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>>92737696
Arent you forgetting someone anon?
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>>92737765
Unironically yes. I was destroying everything I played against with minimal effort, and I know Kyle Grundy was completely undefeated in his playing. And mind you, we were playing the detachment as RAI rather than RAW.
Though in all honesty, I prefer the Kroot detachment, not in it being stronger, but it’s a different playstyle compared to what I usually play for Tau.
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>>92737579

There are a lot of terrain competitors in the market and genuine GW terrain is generally considered pretty bad for play, since nothing they make ever blocks LOS.

GW is probably doing all they can just to produce the actual game pieces that are required to play the game.
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>>92737783
Kauyon was always sleeper OP with the new changes. Wouldn’t be surprised if it now squeaks out on top compared to the other detachments.
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>>92737696
>no grim or dark when the characters are named and titled.
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>>92737778
>I don't know who this mortymerian fella is but he was going 3parsecs per hour over the warp limit and littering the place
>he's going to spend the night in a cellar staring at a lamp
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>>92737791
resin, doesn't count
resurrected as a hologram, doesn't count
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>>92737696
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>>92737812
>no grim or dark when the characters are named and titled
...and their models are from this decade.
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>>92737696
CREEED
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>>92737831
Macharius was always dead in the fluff.
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>>92737792
Okay, try reading posts next time before you reply to them alright cupcake
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>>92737831
he was already dead when the miniature was made, doesn't count
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>>92737696
Tycho
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>>92737851
Creed isn't dead, he's just in stasis within Trazyn collection.
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>>92737765
Yeah, I was winning games with like 250-270 points of crisis suits not even on the board lmao
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>>92737851
creed is not dead, he was resin, and they made a plastic version (daughter)
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>>92737870
I can also beat shitters with my hands tied behind my back
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>>92737852
>Macharius was always dead in the fluff.
What? How can he have been always dead?

>>92737864
>already dead when the miniature was made
If you were playing in current date 40k sure, but there was never any stipulation that your games had to be played as if they were in current year of 40K canon.

You're really moving these goalposts.
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>>92737567
>open world
Very poor idea unless you're playing a gallivanting Inquisitor [or more likely an interrogator/other trusted acolyte so you can't just nuke the planet when you get angry]
The only way a milsim type game would actually make sense is if it took after Battlefield/Battlefront.
>"conventional force" matchups ie guard, tau, cultists, tyranids, daemons, maybe orks, maybe eldar flavors but probably not, mechanicus, soroitas, squats maybe necrons
>"super" matchups ie marines of all good and bad flavors, maybe orks, Eldar flavors, necrons
>uneven matchups ie super faction vs conventional. Conventional army has many more spawns but get chewed up by super faction. Super faction KDs look ridiculous but the objectives mean far more than killpoints
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>>92737871
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On the topic of it, (You) get to permanently kill any one named character (Gods and God-Emperor not includedl) in 40k. Who do you kill off and how?
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>>92737879
the goalpost didn't move, you just fell backwards
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>>92737867
This is so laughably ugly.
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>>92737703
>Kauyon index sucks so bad, Tau is one of the worst performing armies early on, down there with Votan and Admech
>only hope is Montka when the codex hits, since Montka is always objectively better than Kauyon
>codex comes out
>Montka is shit
>most players keep using Kauyon, the detachment that's been notoriously bad since 10th launched
Points changes can't balance this dumpster fire
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>>92737891
lucius

killed by a humble guardsman
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>>92737696
Poor old Ghazzy has died multiple times but an Ork like that wont let something as pathetic as deth stand in his way from fighting.
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>>92737892
>...and their models are from this decade.
>resin, doesn't count
>resurrected as a hologram, doesn't count
Sure anon. Those goalposts didn't move at all.
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>>92737804
Yea giving up T1-2 didnt matter too much since pirannah/pathfinder move blocking was keeping them back.
I think breacherspam isnt too hard to counter but it was a strong valid playstyle different from the normal lists.

Im guessing triptide might be gone and just trip ghostkeel instead.
Broadsides ate a fairly fat increase and are probably just getting cut completely.
I feel like Breacherfish is STILL better than the fire suits so list building isnt going to change much other than fireblades and riptides getting cut.

I do think Tau were going to get hit, they have been doing absurdly well lately at an easy third place behind Necrons and Sisters. But this is a fairly huge slap when technically no ones been able to play with the codex yet.
Kroot were absolutely deserved, they were borderline unbeatable at their old points cost in their detachment. Who the fuck greenlit increasing their OC in the codex
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>>92737618
>it doesnt need to have GW's stamp of approval for you to use it in 40k.

dont give them ideas
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New WE model pls
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>>92737919
Actually never mind Ghazz himself, poor Makari has died from Ghazza sitting on him.
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>>92737877
Sick projection
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>>92737696
These guys are all definitely dead in 999 M41
>Colonel Schaeffer and The Last Chancers.
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>>92737662
>most recent one has a tranny in it
lol
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>>92737906
>Kauyon index sucks so bad, Tau is one of the worst performing armies early on, down there with Votan and Admech
Yeah, until they got fucking insane point drops, which aren’t even fully reverted in the slightest in the new MFM
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>>92737696
This guy is totally dead.
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>>92737473
>>92737496
see
>>92737514
and stop the off topic shit.
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>>92737696
>"NO MAN CAN KILL ME!"
>Custodes removes Helmet
>I am no man!
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>>92737935
>...and their models are from this decade.
Why? Won't you recognise older minis or something?
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>>92737968
His warp ghost is out there somewhere. It almost killed Fulgrim.
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>>92737966
The point drops were "insane" because the index launch costs were as fucking retarded as index launch aeldari, just in the opposite direction.

Then they were good on the basis of CIB bricks which are gone
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>>92737935
they didn't, you think the post said something else or trying to use technicalities despite understanding perfectly well the meaning behind the post

characters with models have plot armour because gw is selling that model, if custodes hatch a plan to take out vashtorr they won't succeed in any definitive way because vashtorr has a model
gw is phasing out resin so characters that are in resin are now vulnerable, unlike before
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>>92737984
Oh for fuck sake, don't tell me hes one of those stupid fucking perpetual fucking nonsense characters too now?
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>>92737993
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>>92737996
Primarches are warp material.
High resonance beings can maintain themselves in the warp after death.
Ferrus is a big, angry Warp Ghost that just wants to fist Fulgrim, maybe to death.
>metal hand puppet
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Tau needed a hit but they definitely didn't need to get hit harder than Necrons
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>>92738005
do you want to bet your yearly income on whether custodes permanently kill vashtorr in the next 10 years?
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>>92738012
>metal hand puppet
>ferrus manus pupa
hehehe
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>>92737992
idk I’ve seen top finishes without a single ion brick to be seen.
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>>92737778
Dredd has some stories that come close. He even fights the devil.
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>>92738020
i dont even know who that is, i havent got into nu-lore yet.
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>>92737996
Every primarch who dies becomes a warp ghost. Horus is still out there too.
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>>92738044
>Nobody's ever really gone
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>Kroot are now more expensive than stealth battlesuits
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>>92737996
It’s been the case for almost 20 years or whenever they published Fulgrim the HH book. Slaanesh had to divine intervention to save his life.
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>>92738052
>7.5ppm > 20ppm
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>>92738061
One wound T3 no save models with no damage
vs
Two wound T4 3+ save infiltrate with okay weapons and absurdly strong special ability.

Why the fuck would someone ever bring kroot outside of their detachment now?
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>>92738052
There was no way Kroot would have been balanced at 55 points in their own detachment. Even at 65 they still would have been too potent. I would have preferred 70 points in my opinion, but this is still reasonable.
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>>92738086
Thats the issue with giving them their own detachment.
They are now comically bad and over costed outside of it.

Im just shocked stealth suits didn't get an increase with their new stuff
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>>92738069
First of all, you're going to be priced based upon the detachment your performance is best in; welcome to the wisdom of 10th.
Second, it's 10 wounds at T3 and 6 wounds at T4 3+. You still need to waste enough attacks to kill them.
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>>92738044
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>>92738097
>6 wounds
8*, shield drones
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>>92738093
>Im just shocked stealth suits didn't get an increase with their new stuff
they couldn’t. they had to replace Tetras
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>>92738052
Stealth battlesuits only exist to spot targets, kroot actually do objectives. Carnivores got a huge +1 OC buff
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>>92738031
Yeah? Where?
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>>92738061
>points per model
Are there people out there who think this is a meaningful metric?
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>>92738052
>>92738086
>>92738119
Easier solution would have been do the opposite of sisters.
Make the MSU unit cheap at like 60~ but make the 20 man brick more expensive at its current points of 150.
Kroot detachment doesn't want 10 man bricks that much and if they do bring them it interferes with their unit caps.
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>>92738132
are you playing in 4th ed
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>>92738132
Damage spillover isn't a thing.
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>>92738132
Are you stupid?
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>>92738144
Yes
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>>92738105
They’re not nearly this stable though. Just look at The Sanguinor, he is the angel of wrath.
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>>92738122
4th place (no losses) at 246 player super major two weeks ago. No Tetras, no Crisis Suits.
https://www.goonhammer.com/competitive-innovations-in-10th-good-guard-pt-1/
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fresh ones

>>92738173
>>92738173
>>92738173
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>>92738169
4th is not a top finish lol
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>>92738178
You are annoying.
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>>92738190
It literally is. It’s in the top bracket, and undefeated.
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>>92737736
Only the Smurfs could have captured Magnus.
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>>92737879
>What? How can he have been always dead?
Ever since his inception as a character he was dead.
Him having a model doesn't change that.
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>>92738209
If you ain't top table you ain't shit
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>>92737724
Why the fuck do Grey Knights even exist?
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>>92736311
Jes left mate
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>>92736560
>sold out
Okay
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>>92737978
Kek
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>>92736049
>What faction is having the most fun time in the universe of Warhammer 40,000?
A specific subfaction of Cabal
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Will Aeldari ever get some new models? No scorpions don't count because nobody wanted them in the first place



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