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>TQHard to say anything elseHonorable mentions for standstill, mother of runes, sensei's divining top, and azorius guildmage
Fucking hell why is this set getting so many leaks. Is it just because MH2 sold so well?
>>92627496Don't ask questions just consume product and get excited for more product
based conscientious objector boomer
>>92627471literally nothing wrong with how tarmogoyf nest is worded.
>>92627557>Esper mirrors for 2 years running nowI LUV STANDART!
>>92627758analyst is le problem
>>92627496There is no way this set has the same impact as MH2. It will probably be around Lotr level (meaning 2 or 3 cards that warp the format instead of the entire format rotating overnight).
>>92627424>TQCrazy cat lady.
>>92627823lmao we've already seen several format warping cards leaked/spoiled. another free counterspell, free cultivate, necropotence, 1 mana goyf, they are printing more spell/land mdfc. if you think everything isn't about to be flipped turned upsidedown, you are coping.
the weird shit wotc has done , changed tribal to kindred because tribes people may get upset? banned ancient cards because of tenuous connections to historical events, max diversity in its artwork despite the player base being 90%+ young men, getting a consultant on blackness for Kaya and still her design looks like a 70s blacksploitation movie character (usurper pw art was ok though), it borders on surreal...let alone the tarot (oracle) cards, dog and cutsy cat lair artwork, murder mystery set a thematic wet blanket.
>>92627977>despite the player base being 90%+ young meneveryone who plays this game is at minimum 30 with a median age of 45
>>92627977Its a Seattle based company, who's employees come from Seattle and interact with others within Seattle during their downtime.They company is completely culturally captured by the cutting edge of progressive coastal movements.It would take a forced moving of the company to somewhere not as ideologically captured and a good 5 years of churn to see any meaningful change.
It's taken a lot of marketing millions to keep a game alive for over 30 years with such a fundamentally shitty design as the land system.
>>92628038Liberal here, this anon is basically right. I would point out that Paizo is a better example of liberal true believes making games (no slavery in Golarion lmao), while WoTC is silly bureaucrats trying to win the liberal social media lottery, but the bottom line is that both games are made in the greater Seattle area
>>92628086I have never seen an MTG ad outside of MTG products
>>92627557/ourguy/I don't care about standard at all but I hope this guy wins the whole event.
>>92628120So you don't eat Hot Pockets? That's good, you probably shouldn't.
if you hate arena so much and play paper only then why don't you post arena codes for us baby sisters?
>>92627977Every day I thank god I'm not fat/manlet enough to seethe this hard about pointless bullshit
>>92628133I hope the rdw guy wins
>>92628189Sent ;)
>>92628333You don't care that the corperation in charge of the thing you like is full of people who are working to undermine it?
>>92628363didn't receive, can you check your discord dms?
>>92627758I'm afraid we will have to delay rotation once again, as players expressed anxiety about no longer being able to play triomes, Raffine, and Wandering Emperor for another year.
>>92628369What about anything in that rant is "undermining" it?
Crop rotation is in
>>92628432>Identity problem that doesn't exist >Spend millions of dollars to fix it>Get solution that makes things worse>Repeat
>>92628432Wasted resources to fix problems that aren't there or you don't care about when they could have gone to better cardboard stock, better artists, etc.
>>92628460That would be retarded if that's actually in the main set. Same with Brainstorm. Why would anyone play Modern if you just make it into Legacy's gay, retarded, gimped little brother?
>>92628460>barbarian ring based. I needed that for a commander deck
>>92628512What?
>>92628531the best cause of action at this point is remove duals from the RL (don't touch anything else) and reprint them so that WOTC can enable proper legacy tournament play
>>92628531>Why would anyone play Modern if you just make it into Legacy's gay, retarded, gimped little brother?RL and ABUR dual lands' price.
>>92628512>I agree, but I don't like the motive you ascribe to these actionsWhat motive do YOU think drives these people?
>>92628562Does anyone actually give a fuck about proxying RL cards?
>>92628570Cunts looking for free wins by judge-checking.>>92628460Probably goes in Tron, right? You're already playing green sources and this lets you turn them into Urza lands.
>>92628611Tron is the obvious one, but there's probably some other uses. I wonder if Coffers would dip green for it.
>>92627557Reminder the problem is Raffine and Bat, not a single mono white card in the deck makes a difference. Effectively a Dimir control deck splashing the white mana symbol for mana leak and multicolor legends. These noses barely even want to acknowledge there are still 5 colors anymore. Slack jawed Detroit hoes have more respect than whoever JOTC pulled from the streets to design Standard White cards.
>>92628721The self awareness of a glass of water.
Thinking about it, yeah one mana goyf is playable Current goyf is just a bit mediocre, it's not bad per sayNethergoyf comes down a turn faster, is in black which is a stronger color for this effect, and has a decent recursion mechanic tied to it with escape Honestly anyone who thinks this card won't get played is kind if dumb
>>92628721get out of our thread, schizo
>>92628732>>92628776>>92628786lol
>>92628783Meh, we can do better now
>>92628811Nethergoyf trades up into stalactite stalker and doesn't die to bowmasters
>>92628840Neither does stalker. Also, N-goyf only counts your graveyard.
>>9262878399% of goyf's power is in getting a double bonus off turn 1 discard spells
>>92628840Stalker is gonna be a 2/2 at least by the time the opponent is playing Bowmasters.
>>92628890Again, hair splitting. It's all just fucking skub.
Please stop discussing your culture war here. I want to laugh at MH3 together.
>>92628570My card shop in a major city has a rule that everyone is allowed 10 fakes in a legacy deck. Works great here, attendance to legacy equals modern.
This card is fucking silly
>>92629214it looks kinda silly, but 3cmc is a lot in competitive formats
>>92629252Have you heard of a mechanic called affinity?
>>92629252It's a lot less for affinity
/pol/ pls go. This is a thread for discussing a card game.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6338150HUMANS T2
>>92629265>>92629268https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/633825011th place is pretty good
>>92628460show the non commander symbol on it
Return the Favor spotted in the sideboard of a mono red aggro deck at the PTsincerely thought it'd show up in more sideboards
>>92629364Your incredulity is noted.
>>92629367How many SSS?
>Opponent and I spent 7 turns in a row top decking and playing lands while the board is in a stalemate in draft
>>92628783This is literally just stictly better goyf, right?
>>92629463Not exactly, since it only counts your graveyard. A major part of goyf's strength was synergy with Thoughtseize.
how do I stop sucking shit at drafti enjoy it when i play but it's only once a week for a couple of hours and i feel like my drafting skills are way behind i want to stop coming in or near last place at my lgs
>>92629447the same guy running 4, but I'm sure there's more
>>92629364>you're either living in a total bubble, you're in complete denialIt's both of these at the same time. Both of these dipshits have the same level of terminally online brainrot.
>>92629450>All these changes aren't malicious, they're just incompetently trying to do things>this much incompetence in the company that makes the game cannot possibly have an effect on the game for the worse
>Create a Tarmogoyf token
>>92629490You don't actually play mtg, why are you here?
>>92627424>melty is a 10 dollar cardIt always makes me angry when a card that's not even a rare is worth more than a buck. It feels wrong.
>>92629450The art and aesthetics don't effect the gameplay, but they are still part of product. That's why alternate arts and unique frames and special treatments are a thing. If they suddenly started using particularly bad AI art for all the cards, would you be happy?
>>92629478the same way you learn to stop sucking at everything else you do, you can probably do some mock drafts to get more used to drafting and maybe play other people that mock draft as well
>>92629470>A major part of goyf's strength was synergy with Thoughtseize.Not... not really.95% of the time all of your goyf's power came from your own yard, and the 5% of the time it didn't the opponents yard only ever accounted for 1 power at most.
>>92622202Fucking STOP DOING THIS
>>92629508Even if that's true it's still not "strictly better". It's strictly different.
>Kindred Enchantment>Lhurgoyf Aura>Tarmogoyf Token
>>92627977Don't forget made a western set without any pistols
>>92629450>And not a one of those things affects the game in the slightest.Banning cards like Crusade because of virtue-signaling most definitely affects the game in a very direct and concrete way. Also all the rest affects the game too, you are just too stupid to realize the total effect of everything they do.
>>92629508Anon, that's the difference between having a 2/3 and a 3/4 on turn 2. I know that doesn't seem like much in 2024, but that used to be a bigger deal.
I hope Duskmourn is a fun set.
>>92629498I do play magic, got 15 EDH decks (full of proxies, I haven't spent a penny on real cards in 4 years)I'm here because there's more Manmade Horrors being posted and I love seeing wizards fuck everything up again. Because their incompetence leads to worse card design.
Its not enough that they use the term kindred they need to ban every card that has tribal printed on it!
>>92629523The reasoning behind changing tribal to kindred is one of the most fucking far out idiotic things I've heard in a long time. Fucking ridiculous.
>>92629508Are you not familiar with the tournament spotlight game where someone went to bolt a 3 toughness Tarmogoyf only to be told that it was now 4 toughness because of his instant? Also, a 1 power difference is substantial on a two mana creature.
>Fury reprint L O L
What was it like playing goyf before fatal push came around?
>>92629504Different anon but, I'm so indifferent to the art now if the cards that came out from this point onward were just blotchy paint splatter I wouldn't care. It's just a color coded placeholder so I can identify the card quicker. The only advice I can offer is to stop caring or do something about it to make the game more entertaining for yourself. Play with proxies with hot busty women on them. Keep calling it tribal; I will continue to do so because it avoids confusion with legacy product. All they can do is print annoying cards. They cannot control your actions unless you act like a douche during a tourney.
>>92629560>you play MODERN for god knows what reason>buy MODERN horizons booster pack>open MODERN horizons booster pack>open a copy of fury, a card that is banned in MODERN>one of the cards in your MODERN horizons booster pack is not playable in MODERN>heh, you've been scammed out of one card anon >:)
>>92629562Imagine playing a 4/5 creature on turn two in a world where the best one mana removal is Lightning Bolt. It was $100 for a good reason.
>>92629563See, doesn't that sound like a step down from actually enjoying the art? Yeah, I can play with proxies and make a cube and be sheltered from WotC's constant terrible decisions, but all of that is an implicit acknowledgement that there's problems. Am I not allowed to vent about those problems?
>>92629560>>92629566So that just means its going to get unbanned right?
>>92629562honestly push just warped the meta and killed off a lot of decks that were favourable to jund, it's less about the push goyf matchup
>>92627977>black knights in an Arthurian fairy tale setting>black elves in Norse setting>black valkyries>black vikings>black samurai>black bride of Dracula>black Mina Harker>black John Seward>black Aragorn>black formerly white characters>now black cowboys
>>92629621Black cowboys aren't really offensive at all. The offensive part is making them as fugly as the woman on that card.
>>92629621>no racebending the aztec faction>no racebending the Indian setting (except the dwarves)>no whites in the Egypt setting>no racebending the Japan settingReally makes you think
>>92628551Kill yourself.
>>92629689The RL is an abomination
>>92629674Go to /pol/ already
>>92629693Noooo you don't understand. I spent hundreds on trading cards, and if those same cards are available for a fraction of that I'll have to think about my spending habits
now that we got magus of the blue moon and nothing is sacred anymore when will they complete the cycle?
>>92629679Most of the characters in those settings looked half-white, same with Tarkir.
>>92629693Two words: Promissory estoppel.
>>92629772No they didn't
>>92629778It's never been a slam dunk. If WotC gets desperate and feels like they'll make more money than they might lose from any fines (if it even gets that far), they'll do it.
>>92629679Ignoring the fact you're wrong(Chandra is the whitest Indian), the protagonists in all of those except Japan were literally white saviors, and everyone in Japan was outsmarted by a White Cyborg and an alien Weeaboo.
>>92629794They'll do it the absolute instant that the profit margins tip in their favor. There's soooo much money to be made in reprinting RL stuff.
>>92629772>Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Japanese, Thai, Mongols, Tibetans, Ottomans and eskimos are all "half white"Brother this isn't apartheid south Africa, the races aren't black, white, and colored
>>92629832
>>92629863Yes they are, though you forgot red and yellow
>>92627977Oh the Kindred thing was a woke change? I kinda thought it was a better name.
the entire set will get leaked before spoiler season starts, lmao
>>92630158Finally a common. Pauperchads brace yourselves
>>92630158> knight rogueThis feels wrong
>>92630158I wish every set leaked so we didn't have to endure wotc drip feeding us spoilers and content creators milking the spoilers for a dogshit card with a 10 min video
can't tell if she's in the main set or a commander reprint, probably the latter but she would be completely fine in modern
>>92630182Why are leakers so fucking terrible at taking photos... fucking hell
>>92630190Its either wotc or they are continuing the tradition of leaks being terrible
>>92630177'member when we didn't get eternal spoiler season?when a set would drop and you'd get the set, boom that's it?and then that time when sets weren't such a constant treadmill?honestly, bring back blocks, I'm tired of three planes a year.
>>92630199I mean, if the leaks are real and not wizards doing some shit, then it tells a lot about the people who leak if they can't take proper photos with all the technology we have today
>>92630201Part of it is probably just becoming jaded with age, but nowadays I just look at the stream of constant retarded shit from wotc and couldn't care less. For other card games with reasonable release schedules I still get excited when spoilers drop
>>92630201yea kinda weird with bloomburrow being leaked a month before otj released
>>92630209Maybe they make shitty photos just to troll you.
>>92630209>then it tells a lot about the people who leak if they can't take proper photos with all the technology we have todayMost people are dumb as fuck, I've seen so many people take a screencap of their screen with a phone it's unreal.
>>92630173He's a corrupt knight, so it fits
have you watch the pt? what's the best standard decks from day1?
>>92630252esper and analyst are clearly the best
>>92630158Personally I'd like mono black control to come back in pauper
finance bros, did you buy your duelists and 3 steps before they skyrocket on monday?
>>92630234I'm not being trolled, I can wait until the actual set is properly spoiled. I never understood why people go nuts with all that "name and number crunch" shit when cards start to get spoiled. I mean, you're going to have the whole set revealed in a matter of days, yet you're speculating and "crunching names and numbers" like a fucking madman.I'm just saying, regarding the photo leakers, that it's just consistently bad. The ones from this set don't even look like whoever was taking the photos had to do it in a hurry either. It's just fucking dumb all around.>>92630238Not to mention the filthy bed sheets in some of the photos too.
>>92629621This is AI generated, 100%the same overshine and highlights, the same style
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>>92630334no because I don't buy anything that I can't play in my legacy decks
I wish we could go back to when Mardu Pyromancer was the shit in modern.
>Gruul Aggro up to the 4th best deck in PioneerSSS literally carrying an entire deck.
>>92630550Needed bans of Pioneer:AmaliaCruiseSorinSSSNeeded unbansField of the DeadWalking BallistaKethis, the Hidden Hand
Esoteric Duplicator + Enigma Jewel + Boom Box is such a house in grindy gamesbasically gives you>{T}: add {CC}>{4}: draws 2 cards>{8}: destroy up to 2 target creatures, 2 target artifacts and 2 target landsjust popping boom box on turn 4 sets opponents back so hard
>>92630605You forgot a couple of cards, let me help you out.
>>92630631Not a fucking way any of those cards ever see the light of day again anon, would be like asking for Lurrus back.
Don't be surprised if they unban fetches in Pioneer just before MH3 releases.
cage bros we did it again
>>92630657>Cock Cage>Sissification in the sideboard
>>92630657But Fight Rigging is so much easier to pull off.
>>92630674only if your opponent isn't interacting with you, fight rigging costs 3 and what it targets usually costs 3 as well, so the window where your opponent can stop you from doing the thing is pretty clearcage being 2 mana in a deck full of 1s and 2s means you can just slip it in with a creature and only go for it only when the time is right
>>92630657Anon that's a weenie deck running Cage, not a Cage deck.
>>92630717>only if your opponent isn't interacting with you,>requires you to stick THREE creatures to a board, and they can't all be tokens of the same power?????This I do not understand, if the opponents deck has any kind of interaction and you got down 3 creatures they couldn't answer AND an artifact to buff them, they already lost, the hideaway is just winmoreAt least fight rigging can be done in one turn, or with a single creature, so they need an instant speed answer
>>92630742>f the opponents deck has any kind of interaction and you got down 3 creatures they couldn't answer AND an artifact to buff them, they already losmost of the creatures in the deck cost 1 and 2 mana, getting 3 of them on the board isn't a problem, turning them into a win condition is because they're a bunch of weenies, which is where cage shines
>>92630742>This I do not understand, if the opponents deck has any kind of interaction and you got down 3 creatures they couldn't answer AND an artifact to buff them, they already lost, the hideaway is just winmoreWhite has multiple ways to make multiple creatures with one card, as well as ways to protect their board through those creatures It's much easier and more consistently for white to be able to build a small board than it is for green to get a big creature out early, and it's much more rewarding for white too
>>92630766the only cards in the deck that don't cost 1-3 mana are the 4x emeria's call and thus even if you turn on collector's cage there's a 70% chance all you're getting is another weenieif you can stick that swarm of weenies then again, you already won the game. its the opponents job to pick them off with removal, counters, sweepers, etc, any kind of interaction. Heck, if they just have bigger blockers or a bigger board and you got your 30% chance to hit an emerias call, whoopdeedoo you got 2x angels without haste, your creatures are still ineffective that turn since they just get blocked, you have to untap to attack with a couple angels which still isn't necessarily a lethal threatthe best thing the deck can do is luck out to fizzle a non-exile based sweeper with it
>>92630814>if you can stick that swarm of weenies then again, you already won the gameyou are free to continue to believe this if you want to
>>92630826>This deck that's 56/60 cards identical to white weenies and ran 4 suboptimal cards and sometimes loses to burn by taking damage from its plains managed to place in an underplayed leagueIf someone went 5-0 with a sorintell list that ran 4 copies of Queen's Bay Soldier and otherwise was just 56/60 the same as the bog standard vein ripper sorin list, would you be saying thats the next big meta card?
>>92630852You're likely replying to the same guy who was trolling about Nucropotence being bad yesterday.
>>92630814To be fair, that list in specific is kind of weirdMost of the collectors cage lists are running copies of Moonshaker Calvary or Emrakul along with Emeira's call so there's more hits It's really not that inconsistent when you have multiple hide away lands and collectors cage together, most games you're checking around 15 cards for a bomb, some of which win the game on the spotIt's an interesting strategy
>>92630852you have chosen a very strange card to build a strawman argument
>>92630896If you run moonshaker cavalry you have uncastable cards in hand AND the subpar cage slots, so you've got 8 dead cards instead of 4at least emeria's call plays identical to a plains in many matchupsBiggest issue is there's no split / adventure cards worth exploiting with it, since even virtue of loyalty sucks when its taxed by thalia and not a human
>>92630209Most leakers are attention whore it's nothing new. I don't know how many time I've seen leakers drip releasing news, and telling it was to "build the hype" or some shit like that and just being insuferable little shit like a little kid when they tells you "I know something you don't", usually it end with another person getting tired of their shit and leaking everything anyway.
Why aren't spoiler sites posting the MH3 spoilers? Are they truly just pussy ass bitches scared of upsetting WotC?
>>92631029It's a conspiracy to force you to use Reddit.
How do I break this in legacyIs any deck that would want it just worse than the PO/paradox engine decks?
>>92631046It's not worth breaking.
>>92629621Yes, wotc is onagenda to destroy white culture.No, you won't do anything about it except complaining.
>>92631046people were messing around with it in vintage last yearhttps://mtgtop8.com/event?e=49378&d=564226&f=VIhttps://mtgtop8.com/event?e=52186&d=587432&f=VII'm not sure you can make it work in legacy without shops and the rest of the restricted artifact mana
>>92627424>TQclose call between Bloodbraid Elf and Acidic Slime
>>92629503that's price gouging is, kiddo. if you know a card's gonna pop in value, grab as much as you can beforeit does and then reap the rewards for wise investments, getting dollars on the pennies
>>92629621>>92629650but black cowboys are the only historically accurate thing on that list
>>92631029Because they're leaks, not spoilers? Maybe?https://mtgazone.com/modern-horizons-3-leaks-main-set-cards/
>>92631094>Flare of Denial>Could this card make Snapcaster Mage good again? With the Harbinger of the Seas leak, Merfolk is likely an archetype that will be pushed with Modern Horizons 3.That site lmaoooo
how can anyone stand playing these degenerate non-standard formats filled with bullshit cards like 4x The One Ring>watch a tournament>both aggro and control list facing off with 4x rings>cast their ring to time walk and draw 6 cards, then cast another ring
>>92631152>The ring is supposed to have a massive downside that kills you but is overcome by drawing 100 cards to find another copy to legend rule it away
>>92631152Have you seen the PT? Would you say the degeneracy there is "fine"?
Wtf is this Bronco shit why does black keep getting pushed despite years worth of Standard bans?
>>92631234Every black creature card must be an avengers level threat that you MUST remove before they can untap or it will snowball and take over the game
Can’t believe they’re printing in necro to modern lmao
>>92631331without dark ritual it's a lot worse, but still fuckedfable is at 3 mana
Magic should be won through tactic decisions and deck construction ability, not through cheating.
>>92631391Just print dark ritual in MH3
>>92631393This minus deck construction ability.
noooooooI wanted this to be a fireblast so bad
>>92631393My dad thinks otherwise.
>>92631519I'm honestly surprising it's not a Lightning Bolt.
>>92631519Do we have any kind of image or is this just someone spitballing?
>>92629463If you play this T1 it's either a 0/1 or a 1/2, depending on whether or not you cracked a fetchland.If you play this T2 it could be a 2/3 or 3/4 but you'd have to cast three 1-drops to get any value so your deck has a jank curve.The only tempting part of Nethergoyf is the escape cost, which is expensive and has anti-synergy with the card itself.>>92628783Interesting that it exiles "any number of other cards".That's obviously so exiling an artifact creature covers two types (etc.) but it means you can exile more than 4 cards if you want to.
>>92631331it's a lot worse than necro. The hand size limit is significant.It costs 1 less mana than the one ring
>>92629463if your opponent plops down a leyline of the void your nethergoyf will be a 0/1 for the rest of the gametarmagoyf can still be at least a 2/3 even if your opponent plays graveyard hate since every deck runs fetches + creatures/removal
>Have a 2/3 Nethergoyf with no instant in the bin>Opponent Bolts it>It dies
>>92630291black control decks in pauper were cancerous as fuck, I hope they stay dead
>>92631689Ooga-booga!
>>92631781AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>92631665That's a meme situation and isn't really that relevant, 90% of goyf's size comes from your own graveyard anyways
>>92631781*dies*
>>92629455Genuinely an experience I prefer over losing in slow motion.
>>92631801We've already been over this
>>92630285>esper and analystwhat happened to the birb? wasn't it the end all be all? why aren't pros all over it? X
>>92631998It turns out mono-red aggro doesn't really work out when your opponent shits out infinite mana and/or absurd board-states by turn 3.
>>92631393t.drawgo enthusiast
>>92631998Pros always go for decks that allow them to pretend decisions matter unless aggro is broken.
>>92632012More like no matter what you do the birb dies, I saw so many Eiganjo yesterday it wasn't even funny.
>>92632048Yeah, there's just too much good removal against weaker creatures. The bird not having actual prowess honestly kind of hurts it because it can't live through damage-based removal as easily as, say, Swiftspear might.
>>92632044But aggro IS broken, birb is broken, or were you guys lying to me?
>>92632129We may have overestimated things a bit.
>>92629506Yeah but there's gotta be some error in my technique even though I've read a bunch of draft guides and shit. I'm not good at identifying bombs.It doesn't help I can't really settle on a color unless I decide to force something, like yesterday I did manage to build a pretty consistent outlaw-printing Rakdos deck but just got wrecked by shit like Bonny Pall.
>>92632129The bird IS very good. It's just aggro lacks tools in Standard to deal with how effective removal currently is.
>>92632129Bird is good, just not superb in Standard where it lacks some of the defense tools it has on Pioneer
>>92632148>aggro needs better threatsyou guys are expert trolls
>>92632191that anon is right. red threats are fairly anemic compared to the rest of the field.
>>92632292Ravegan in standard when.
>>92631998>>92632012>>92632129Matching mono red aggro vs boros prowess seemed kinda scummy to me. I wanted to see the the aggro decks go up against the esper/domain fuckery. I'm pretty certain the undefeated domain tard would've been BTFO by any of the two aggro decks. Esper was also matched against esper. It can't be a coincidence, right? Anyone else?
>>92632406knock yourself out
>we italians say "hold my coffee for me" (female magic streamer) resident italian please translate
>>92630291I miss faeries/ninjas being good. Still have my deck and I refuse to take it apart.
My friends and I started playing magic again after briefly trying it as kids. Now that we're adults and can read and buy more shit than when we were kids it's more fun.That being said what are some fun and affordable precon decks? My friend bought the outlaw one and I have a merfolk precon. We don't play commander either as of yet but we're gonna try it out sooner or later.
>>92632434>we italians say "hold my coffee for me"we don't say shit like that
>>92632421Random is a bitch like that.Don't worry, you'll get plenty of esper mirrors during second half of the pt.
>>92632421esper was matched against esper because it's almost one thirdof the field
>>92632441Thanks.
>>92632459Ulakek
Glimpse the Impossible {2}{R}SorceryExile the top three cards of your library. You may play those cards this turn. At the beginning of the next end step, if any of those cards remain exiled, put them into your graveyard, then create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token for each card put into your graveyard this way. Those tokens have "Sacrifice this creature: Add {C}."
>>92631087We wuz samuraiz n shieeet
>>92632421>One deck is one third of the format literally 30%>Thinking aggro has any chanceLol, lmao even.
>>92632485>you can play them this turnold impulse draw design?
Cards as guest stars.
>>92632511What do you expect from a format that is all focused on combo or value because the creator inflated life totals in a multi-player format?
>>92632459These fucking commander cards are so boring. They all do a variation of the same 4 things:>COPY THAT SPELL. YOU MAY CHOOSE NEW TARGEST FOR THE COPIES>IF YOU WOULD DO X, DO X TWICE INSTEAD>EXILE THE TOP X CARDS OF YOUR OPPONENTS LIBRARY, YOU MAY CAST THE CARDS AS IF MANA WERE ANY TYPE YADDA YADDAand my favorite:>DO THING. DRAW CARD
>>92632521>no precon in which to play FuryI don't know if I'm laughing out of joy or sadness
>>92632533What do you expect from a format that is all focused on combo or value because the creator inflated life totals in a multi-player format?
sheldon mener-ACK
>>92632541I don't know, something new. Figuring that out is their job. These designs are all blurring together at this point.
>>92632421As others pointed out, nobody is playing red and everyone is playing blue.
>>92632485Act on Impulse had a hard life...
>>92632548>sheldon
>>92632554They release new stuff so fast that it's impossible to put much effort into it.
>>92632554Its not Sheldons fault, its WotCs.He had to take a backseat cause of his cancer, and WotC had the rest of the RC and designers deep on their payroll.Thats why so many cards are as you described. Everything comes with rounded edges for casuals so they dont experience any feelsbad moments, so they stay happy and buy more product.Gavin Verhey or whatever that faggots name is has done more damage to EDH (and MTG as a whole) then Sheldon ever could
>>92632580commanderisntmagic.jpeg>we where assblasted by someone who was outside our sowing circlemany such cases
>>92632488There was one (1) black samurai, so it's allowed.
>>92632493They tend to do both types. For a card like this where they're effectively discarded by end of turn, it makes more sense for it to be this turn.
>>92632608to be fair Sheldon is ACK so he can't help it
>Brought Bird Prowess to FNM>Went 4-0 vs Hammer, Scam, Reanimator and Affinity>Every win was with 1 bird growing to 9+ and otk my opponentI fucking love this stupid fucking bird, using plot on it is a death sentence for the opponent
>>92632608>Its not wotcs fault, its WOTCS faultredundant
>>92632608>Gavin Verhey or whatever that faggots name is has done more damage to White(and MTG as a whole) then Sheldon ever couldFixed it for you.
>Esper>Dimir>Domain>Temur>Legends>Azorius>Bantthe little bird that could>OMG WHAT IS THIS BROKEN TOTALLU WARPING THE FORMAT BAN AND ALSO BAN THE BAT SO I CAN PLAY MOREBLU
>>92632608>Its not Sheldons fault, its WotCs.Lmao. Sheldon and WOTC are one and the same, fuck both and fuck what they have done to Magic.
>>92632718No one is complaining about the Bird in Standard anon if you are seeing the PT you can already appreciate there are lots of more egenerate stuff.
>>92632720Amen.
Why are there Eldrazi on thunder junction?
>>92632768the new highway cuts right through their neighborhood
>>92632768There aren't any. They would have cowboy hats on them.
is veteran explorer in mh3?
>>92632511there's also an enchantment that does trigger ability and colorless spell copying. at this rate everything will get a doubling thing
>>92632802Explain this then.
>>92632850no confirmation yet but I would like that
>>92632883Yeah, that was nutty after Kozilek showed up in MKM. So is this like when they started having the praetors showing up out of nowhere? Are we gonna get furry Emrakul in Bloomburrow next?
>complain about how expensive magic is getting and how hard that makes it to get into certain formats>some dipshit goes "proxies are only slightly more than free"Yeah, cool, sure, fine. This doesn't actually address my issue at all but fine.
Why is Standard so shitty right now?Will Rotation fix this absolute trash?
>>92632459The fused atrocity of two eldrazi titans is... a 2/5? UlaKEK
>>92632915>Are we gonna get furry Emrakul in Bloomburrow next?It's already been leaked
>>92632971the cat ears stays on during sex, Emrakul
>>92632956Next time they rotate standard, don't play it. The format is dead. Bury it. Consider this mercy.
Anyone seen the standard list yet? I am just trying to make it from what little I've seen, not sure if I'm missing any pieces, looks like it needs a way to tutor / search>4 Outcaster Trailblazer>4 Venerated Rotpriest>4 Vesuvan Duplimancy>4 March of Burgeoning Life>4 Shore Up>4 Take the Fall>4 Timely Interference>4 Snakeskin Veil>4 Royal Treatment>4 Tyvar's Stand
>>92632960Maybe the idea is that it's the early stages of them remanifesting fused after getting channel-fireballed together.
>>92632541The ritualfag cat poster anon was right: 30 starting life is objectively better than 40
>>92632960It's unclear if it's actually the titans themselves fused, or more like some of their brood fused together into a sort of 'nascent fourth thing'. We'll learn more when we get the lore blurb with it I guess.
>>92632956>Why is Standard so shitty right now?Because they delayed rotations and they won't ban shit despite glaring health issues.>Will Rotation fix this absolute trash?Rotating SNC and NEO out will probably help, but there will still be a lot of problem cards and WotC is seemingly scared to death of using the banhammer.
>>92633086>>92632956Rotation won't solve shit, RDW is the most busted and oppressive deck that chokes out anyone's desire to actually play the format and the ONLY card it will lose in rotation is kakkazan which admittedly is one of its strongest but it just got SSS which more than makes up for the lossWant the real joke? You won't even be able to run Knock-out Blow in sideboards anymore because THAT is going to rotate before monstrous rage, goddric, codebreaker, swiftspear, scoundrel, phoenix chick, squee or lightning strikebut hey at least their play with fires will be downgraded to... shockslmao
>>92627977the explanation is very simple>wotc is very dumb>wotc is also being told to make infinite profit by hasbro or ELSE>sees that their playerbase rarely grows and is comprised of aging white guys>want to diversify customer base>see how retarded the left wing are and decide they want that money>however nobody they try to pander to gives a fuck about mtg and also the pandering is shallow as fuck>attempts to diversify piss off core fanbase of aging white guys>however thanks to covid and getting the normalfag spotlight they have a big bubble of faggots who are into commander but will fuck off in a couple years
>>92632956there's nothing wrong with the format you're just bad at magic
>>92633158>there's nothing wrong with Standard
>>92633126>codebreaker>phoenix chicklol, lmao even
>>92632554Commander is fundamentally broken. You can read any number of reasons why it sucks but the main one is that the core rules are fundamentally incompatable with mtg and all problems stem from it>40 life so any kind of aggro is unviable>100 card singleton originally meant to diversify deckbuilding now does the opposite due to pandering>4 players so any kind of interaction that isnt a wipe is fucking yourself over because now two other players have one less spell to deal withThe only viable style of play in commander is combo and this will always be true. The best part is commanderfags will say this isnt true because you can just socially bully people into running shittier decks until this isnt an issue. Because as we all know a game that requires a winner being balanced entirely by the players on match by match basis is a good solution
>>92632956I've been playing golgari midrange since eldraine dropped and I'm having a good timegonna lose some duals with rotation but temur analyst is losing fetchlands and that's the deck I hate playing against the most so it evens out
>>92633163Standard will alwaysbe shit because card pool has small amount of strong cards to build different decks around.Take the eternal pill.
The only reason nuGoyf is probably better than the OG is that he isn't as big of a tempo loss when he inevitably eats a piece of 1 mana removal.
>>92633163>none is over 50%that's literally what a healthy meta is supposed to look like
I play a creatureless sultai control deck with 4x Intimidation Campaign & 4x Ancient Cornucopiasay something nice about me
>Japanese player pronouns aren't 彼/彼Absolutely sovlless.
>>92633252how do you beat temur analyst
>>92633263i started japanese on duolingo, and so far they haven't explained pronouns or any gendered language at all. the statement "he's cute" is written the same as "she's cute" what am i missing?
>>92632956>Why is Standard so shitty right now?Card pool is too bigCards have too many wordsWotC won't ban problem cards
>>92633274I have unlicensed hearse maindeck, besides the 12 counterspells (4x Three Steps Ahead that have cornucopia as the primary target, but they can copy hearse in a pinch, and mirrex tokens can crew the hearses)If they try to go fast with analyst/nissa before 6 mana, you just hit them with cut down / go for the throat / shoot the sheriff
>>92632956Hey, actually Standard is le good because you can play anything and there is no best deck to beat. Or something.
>>92633296oh and I forgot if you get deadly coverup to snag worldsoul's rage that gets a concession most of the timethey moved away from most backup plans, I used to see variants with slogurk, shigeki, invasion of arcavios and turn the earth that could set up deterministic loops that you couldn't easily interact withbut some of these lists the only thing you actually need to counter is jace so they can't mill you out and otherwise its a single non-hasty threat at a time when the burn plan fails
>>92633289Japanese technically has pronouns but they're not used all that much. Once it's clear who you're talking about they drop all references to the subject from sentences entirely, though by default it's assumed you're talking about yourself unless context states otherwise.Also if you want a little hint, things that are verbs in English aren't necessary verbs in Japanese. 好き (すき (install fucking yomichan on your browser right fucking now)) means "likeable". Whereas in English you'd say you like apples, in Japanese you'd describe apples as likeable.Also my Japanese comprehension is shit but duolingo is pretty awful. Learn more about Japanese sentence structure and use wanikani for a little while until you understand how kanji work. It's a paid website but you can do a little bit for free to see if you like it.
Standard is le good and in a healthy place righ- ACK
>>92633296>>92633325nice, can you show me your list?
Primal Command played in an OTJ draft. Fucking clown world.
>>92633337LE GOOD!!!!!!!!
>>92633337Honest aggro decks, nothing wrong.
>>92633337you're in bronze, you shouldn't be talking about whether standard is healthy or not
>Erm, sweaty. I fucking love when cards have a lot of words. It makes in more complex erm mathematically. Look at this legendary creature with 3 abilities, now look at it's flip side where it has 4, and now it's other flip side where it has 2. It's heckin' awesome. It even draws a card and doubles stuff which makes it go perfectly in my commander deck.
>>92633337turn 2 aggro wins > midrange cuckoldssheoldredfags get the rope
Based boomer topdecking like a fucking god.
>>92633395turn 2 decks are aggroturn 3 decks are midrangeturn 4+ decks are control
>Lose because you just don't draw any landsFucking joke of a game.
>>92633451turn 0 decks are combo, turn 1 decks are prison
>>92633456>t. 19 landlet in a deck with average cmc of 3.5
>>92633331There's a guy who did a video of "talking in English like you talk in Japanese" that helped me understand just how different Japanese sentence structure is. Like you have to start from the ground up because the only frame of reference you have coming from English is "words exist".
>>92633476>Bot has to make a generic reply because it can't watch the stream
Oh boy I can't wait to see Cruel Ultimatum used in this>*flips through notes*Thunder Junction draft.
The real problem is that the insane powercreep has made it so that you don't have any options if you want to play a low-powered Constructed. format. Standard is no longer slow and durdly (and there is no sign that this will ever revert) and even Pauper gets rotated by the newest set more often than not now.
How many of these limited games are being decided by cards that aren't from this set?
>>92633535you can't even get a low-powered commander game these daysit's more the problem of internet deck building and singles dealers than power creepeven "low budget" doesn't cut it to power down decks
>>92633339Right now my main list is>Ancient Cornucopia>Intimidation Campaign>Three Steps Ahead>Deadly Cover-up>Go for the Throat>Cut Down>Shoot the Sheriff>Unlicensed Hearse>Out of Air>Wash AwayI have a 1x celestus, 2x mirrex, 2x field of ruin, 2x restless reef in landbase but I'm not sure about how many I should I haveto give an example, last game I ended with 5x cornupias on the field and 72 life and finally beat my opponent out with a 10/10 hearse, I wonder if I need a few mill conditions
All of these games are being decided by cards that aren't from this set.
what's causing all these draws?
lel watched 2min of the pro tour stream. Pronouns under the names.I was also reminded how much I hate draft.
I'm cheering for Willy Edel because I remember him being the only one playing Courser of Kruphix in Modern Jund way back when.
It's like they have a mic on the table with the volume pumped so every card just has a huge "slap" sound whenever they touch the cards or put them on the table. Would be nice if they turned the volume down a bit.
>>92633811well how else are they going to make this shit exciting, anon?
>>92633841I don't know, but excessive card slapping and flickering sounds make me want to turn it off
I wish they'd add compression and boost the bass on the card slap mic so I can really FEEL it.
>>92633859It's already compressed to hell
>Japanese and a Spaniard attempting to communicate a complex situation in EnglishFucking lmao
Javier needs to chill. He always sits like he did five lines of coke before each match
>>92633901Cocaine is extremely good at focusing your mind.
>>92633917His track record confirms your statement. Still fucking annoying to watch
Nothing is more cancerous in the world than the sports-ification of random nerd shit.>hey so this is a fighting game tournament. So viewers watch the gameplay and there is some commentary>wait we can have a bunch of niggers at a desk so instead of watching a bunch of games, we watch 20% games and 80% filler>so this is a speedrun event. Some random autists play games quickly and talk about it>wait we can just have a couch full of women (forma de hombres) doing shit nobody cares about like interviews and also way less speedruns to watch>so this is a card game event. Some people will watch it and there will be casters to explain what goes on>wait we can have a corny sports desk with a bunch of fags that talk. People would much rather watch fags literally kill time than to watch the thing they wanted to watchJUST
>>92634167I always find it funny the players usually have some sort of nylon "athlete" team shirt on, and the commentators/hosts all have formal clothes on.It's a fucking card game, do you really need to put people in suits and dresses?
>>92634167These PT streams are way better than in yesteryear because now they try and keep matches on screen as much as possible. They show the first match in full, then if there's still a wait before the next round they show a second match sped up.
>>92634248>PT streams are better nowThat wasn't very hard to do. PT streams used to always be actively bad.
>>92634260Don't you like 30 minute breaks anon?
>>92634248Yeah, it's so much better. You lose a little bit since it's not actually live until the top 8, but it used to be such a fucking chore to watch because you'd watch one match and then have a 30min break, then people talking and shit and then finally another match.This is just game after game with minimal in between shit. Much much better
it's obviously better for the PT to take itself too seriously rather than not seriously enoughyou want it to be aspirational otherwise nobody will care and it's not effective advertising
Coverage got better once Rich Hagon wasn't in it. There, I said it.
>>92634270>m-muh advertisingI don't care, Goldberg.
>>92634270You can take it seriously while also not dressing up like juxtaposed dildos
>>92634276I fucking hated Rich so bad. I hate the woman in the green dress too. The cadence in how she speaks is so annoying I tune out whenever she's on
>>92634289Anon your dildo is like your college degree: I don't wanna fuck hear about it.
>>92634297Years ago he kept trying to explain to viewers how Modern decks worked at every opportunity in event coverage. I called him condescending to viewers in chat and he fucking reacted to it on stream, I was a hero at my LGS for a week. Also a local player went to a university where the LGS was Rich's LGS, and apparently he was known for being a douchebag there.
And people said OTJ draft environment was good...
>>92634324Get shilled on, nerd.
>>92634313He was just such a whiny little bitch. I don't know why he was so "well liked". But it's obvious there's a golden circle of all those magic hosts.
>>92632459>ulakek>nft art>6 "colors">dbz fusion of two eldrazi titans>is somehow a 2/5>do this, do this again.Am I missing something? This might be one of the most vomit inducing cards ever printed.
>simplest board state imaginable>flick cards in hand for 5 minutes>take the obvious line>other player looks at the obvious line>flicks cards for 5 minutes>"okay"
>>92634372sovl...
Ulalek
>>92634471Apparently only a 2/5
>The fusion of two of the most powerful beings to ever exist>"nooo dont block with your nessian courser i cant kill it >:("
>>92632459I swear this card was invented to see how little soul they could put into a card>ugly art>Nu-Eldrazi>gets walled by one Arboreal Grazer>extremely boring coooomander ability
>>92632459Why doesn't it just say "copy all spells and abilities you control"?
>>92634502I was excited to get more eldrazi. I know this is for commander, but I'm worried if this is what we can expect for the normal set. I want some new stuff for eldrazi tron to push it back up
>>92634510because it is an ability
>>92634482Ulamog was 10/10 Kozilek 12/12. Do the math.
>>92634518"copy all spells and other abilities you control".
>>92634522They also cost a lot more than 5 mana. I guess it's a balancing issue to make him 2/5 instead of titan levels of power
>>92633263>>92633331>>92633477Not any of the people you replied to but thanks for posting this. I'm trying to learn the language but I'm an ADHD zoomer that can't concentrate and reading things like this helps me
Nice bot.
>Another game decided by a card that isn't in the set
You fucking retards. Ulakek is Ulamog and Kozilek's gay incest baby. Do you really expect a literal baby to be a 20 mana 25/25 flying trample annihilator???
>>92634563Why even reference them at all in that case? Nobody would've complained if this was flavoured as a brand new legendary Eldrazi.
>>92634568>Why does an incest baby reference it's parents?
>>92634563>Legendary creatureClearly supposed to be important. At least give some indicator in the card that says he is supposed to be a weak offspring. "Eldrazi Drone" would be a good start.
>>92634532all ability copiers specify activated and/or triggered abilities because there's a third type of ability: static abilities. Interacting with static abilities like that would probably not work with the current rules.
>>92634591"copy all spells and other nonstatic abilities you control".
>>92634355At least it's from the coomander decks and not the main set so it's somewhat justified. If they had put this in the regular set I'd be more pissed.
>>92634586Zhulodok was just a random fairly powerful non-Titan. Ulalek is probably a similar case, except it somehow spawned from both Ulamog and Kozilek together, because apparently the Eldrazi titans are sort of ALL the same meta-being, maybe?
>parodying an accent>they sound the exact samedo they have an ounce of self-conciousness?
>>92634599I guess, but I think at that point it's just better to write out triggered and activated
>>92634671aww shit I thought it was a card game
very very newfag to magic here, playing a local standard tournament tomorrow and cobbled together a very last minute monored deck. what does my deck need? what do I put in the sideboard? thanks for the help20 Mountain (OTJ) 2843 Shock (M20) 1603 Frantic Scapegoat (MKM) 1264 Reckless Lackey (OTJ) 1404 Khenra Spellspear (MOM) 1514 Blazing Crescendo (ONE) 1232 Slickshot Show-Off (OTJ) 1462 Demonic Ruckus (OTJ) 1204 Highway Robbery (OTJ) 1293 Invasion of Regatha (MOM) 1483 Scorching Shot (OTJ) 1452 Stoke the Flames (MOM) 1663 Felonious Rage (MKM) 1253 Cunning Coyote (OTJ) 118
>NEW PLAYER HERE
How much time until we have a melanin enriched Champion of MTG?
Lmao word soup caused this.
>"They got a lot of text, these cards."- Cedric Philips, 2024
Really? Pro players need clarification?
>>92634783who are you quoting?
>>92634848The post above that one.
lmao SLAAYYYYYYY
Nicole seems like she'd do a better job at commentary with Riley than Cedric is doing.
STOP TALKING GIRL, STOOOOOP!
She seems fun :3c
She deserved to win with that personality! I'd gladly let her sit at my table. You go girl!
Yeah fuck it just play 5c in Standard, why would any of this be banned? Hahaha
>>92632533This. It's all the same generically efficient shit.
Standard and this piles of infinte value are so shit... Domain, Esper, Rainbow Legends, what a trash format
>>92627496It is because wotc is loosing its ceo and they have to pump sales and shares values in the process
Wait, so why didn't he name Phyrexian on Cavern and make his Seedsharks uncounterable?
Print Karakas into standard.
I want Moon in Standard
>>92632521>FuryThose bastards indeed emergence banned it and didn’t even bother to remove it from the “guest list” (This or it is, as we all suspect, a product designed exclusively to commsnder…)
The solution isn't to print Moon effects, but to start banning this Triome bullshit.
>Cast Bat>See hand>ConcedeYOU GUYS TOLD ME THAT BAT WAS BULLSHIT WHAT THE FUCK???
>>92634671WotC too afraid of going into LGS because of people screaming nigger left and right
>>92634776need more monastery swiftspear>sideboardyou're monored, if you're not winning on turn 3 without a sideboard you blame luck
>>92635371>swiftspearyeah i agree, just that i couldn't get my hands on them. any good replacements?>blame luckalready on it
>This ability triggers only once per turn>Activate this ability only once per turn
>>92634510Because those would activate at the same time. This way, the abilities always activate after spells (including creature summons) are doubled.
Thoughtknot seer but for enchantments/artifacts/planeswalkers/battles(bleh) Shilgengar : the demon who made edgar a vampire (and all the other vampires in innistrad), they couldn’t think of anything but “translate” the little lore we have from him into a card (shit commander card)Basically an RL card reprintPearl-Ear : the fox lady who was a teacher to Michiko Konda and a diplomat at heart, somehow is an enchantress lord (fuck commander) and has “Modified” in the text. This set is shit and soulless. I hope it finally kills modern or at least make modern players ashamed of playing it.
>>92635549volatile stormdrake is a lot worse than gilded drake
>>92635549>modified permanent I HATE nu-MTG keywords.
>>92635599YOU REMEMBER GILDED DRAKE AGAINBUY IT BECAUSE IT'S FAMILIAR
>>92635641Why?
>>92634671someone edit the wikipedia page of magic: the gathering to say this instead of all that icky chud stuff about planeswalkers and card games
>>92635670That's literally like 60% of what Horizons sets are about, yes.
>>92632459The power of schrodinger's lesbian death beams achieved fucking nothing i see.
>>92635549why do all colors get creatures with above rate stats?
>>92632533When EDH isn't cripple legacy it's value town durdle shit and these sorts of cards are perfect for the latter.
>>92632554The issue is that cards aren't allowed to have drawbacks anymore, which shaves away a huge amount of design space with which they could've given cards personality.
>>92635803Realistically the Gatewatch didn't actually know for sure what would happen afterwards, all they knew was that the Titans were destroying Zendikar and they wanted to save Zendikar. They did accomplish that much, at least. Ulalek could be anything from the last bits of their essence lingering somewhere on Zendikar having fused together, to just some brood made from both of them somehow.
>>92635838>Cards aren't allowed to have drawbacks>People complain about cards having effects only once per turn
>>92635415any 1cmc haste or 1/2cmc with prowess will doPhoenix chick if you have it
>>92633183EDH being broken wouldn't be a big deal if it stayed this obscure thing only played by bored people with huge binders between rounds or after tournaments.
>>92635817They've generally leaned towards Green and Black having the most efficient large creatures (Green moreso). Realistically Shilgengar has 6/6 stats because they wanted to keep up the 6 theming, and I guess decided 6 mana made him just a bit too bad.Every colour gets 3/2s or 2/3s for 2 now, though. It's just kind of how it is.
>>92634270My man I already don't care.
>>92635875That's barely a drawback when their once per turn stuff is brutally overtuned.
return the favor counters the tidebinder ETB... just saying
>cftsoc is a they/them mask troonAutismo sisters... why are we like this?
So I know the queers(tm) got in an uproar when Nissa/Chandra was stomped out for a bit, but why do people say Jace and Vraska were retconned? When was their relationship ever stunted? Didnt it basically start on Ixalan? They were more rivals than lovers before.
>>92636211nobody cares
What's your other hobby /mtg/? What do you bounce back and forth between playing magic and doing that other thing?
>>92635875imagine being too retarded to know what a drawback is
>>92636211It wasn't retconned, it was more just Forsaken ended with Jace and Vraska respectfully breaking up because... Jace had to do Gatewatch stuff and Vraska had to lead the Golgari and literally nobody ever makes time for a relationship apparently.The next time Vraska shows up is in ONE and it generally just seems like they've been at least quietly in love with each other since but haven't really DONE anything. Granted, Jace himself sort of vanished from the story after WAR until ONE (discounting ZNR where nothing fucking happens), so it was more those two were just kind of... In limbo.
Don't he just make you smile in every way? All parts of this Ajani, are balanced :) Gain 100 life? Why not. Its feels good stuff they put on him to provide fanservice to people who enjoy playing with their favorite lion planeswalker from the days of alara
>>92636211i don't know any of those characters except jace and only then because of the songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnYhG_ekoH8
>>92636354So people thought it was a retcon because they had jobs?And nowadays Vraska is getting fucked silly while LARPing as a cowgirl by Jace, I don't see the point in the anger.
>>92632485>"Glimpse the...">No reference to milling ten cards.shiggy
>>92636355Cards like this are what I call kitchen-table busted. Too slow for a competitive environment but the mass utility will slaughter any casual players who don't realize how powerful these abilities can be. Remember that even if you don't find a target for his second ability you just improved your next four draws by skipping past chaff.
>>92636399It's not so much it was a retcon as it was an awkward "can't have our major characters in relationships for some reason" thing. Forsaken's canonicity is debatable as-is, though. The only things that are definitively still canon from it are "Liliana gave up the Chain Veil" and "Gideon got a statue on Theros".
>>92636475After WOTS didnt Liliana become a crazed old book lady? Looking at the mtg wiki, her only thins post WOTS is being a professor and saying a certain spell would defeat the Phyrexians.
What's Lilianna like in the books? Does she have a dry wit like a sexy rich lady? What's Chandra like ? Is she a plucky redditor memelord steampunker?
>>92636569They went out of their way to have Nissa and Chandra kiss at the end of March of Machines so the rugmunching dykes would stop screaming about saying that Chandra likes men that one time.
>>92636584How long until Chandra has a side shave and no boobs?
>>92636569Chanda isn't plucky, she's the "don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" Hulk character of the Gatewatch.
>>92636519So Forsaken had her living on Dominaria for a bit under a pseudonym before Kaya finds her, and then Liliana convinces Kaya to take the Chain Veil as proof of her death because Liliana truly regrets her actions and whatnot and it's very... Not Liliana in its execution.Her next proper appearance is Strixhaven, where she's taken up as a professor because she really just wants to be done with shit, and she basically doesn't do anything after that until MOM where she's basically just there to help out on Arcavios to defend Strixhaven and her students.
>>92636584Chandra DOES still like men. She just ALSO likes women. They pretty clearly establish she's at least physically attracted to Gideon and Tyvar, but nothing really comes of that. It's also just generally considered a little awkward to have your bi character end up in a straight relationship but hey.
>caustic bronco isn't playableThis list just split finals of challenge
>>92636569Liliana's a charming, if desperately in need of affection, femme fatale type in Agents of Artifice, her first appearance. And then literally doesn't show up in story much because I don't think Innistrad had a written story, just sort of a summary of events, and then only showed up again pre-BFZ, trying to rope Jace into helping with her demons but Gideon's like "please help me fix the giant tentacle monstrosities you inadvertently caused" and Jace is more willing to do that than deal with Liliana.
>>92636627I forget what did Liliana do she regrets? Also lol, she literally did turn into a spinster professor.
>>92636642A bi character is in truth either gay or straight depending on who they fuck.
>>92636647vintage is such a dogshit format lmao
>>92636683In general, a lot of things, she's basically going a full survivor's guilt-induced breakdown post-WAR because Gideon sacrificing himself for her sent her into a spiral of "wait I'm not worth that what the fuck". She initially plans to try and resurrect Gideon at Strixhaven, but eventually comes to the conclusion that it's better to not try and mess with the order of things TOO much. The most obvious regret is working for Bolas, signing the contract with the demons because of what it ended up putting her through, manipulating people instead of just... Asking for help, etc. Her monoblack stuff is still there, it's just moved more into "these are MY people how dare you hurt MY things".
>>92636709That and she went from MOMMY to "do you have a hall pass?"
>>92636735She seems pretty mommy still I dunno what to tell you.
>>92636742>going from a supple bouncy E cup to barely a D and coveringMan I miss 2000s magic.
>>92636749apply yourself
Here are my color ratings for the X-men. However, due to their mutations, each would have color-pie breaking ability. Professor Xavier - Blue Cyclops - WhiteJean Grey - RedStorm - GreenWolverine - BlackNightcrawler - RedMagneto - White/RedRogue - BlackMystique - Blue/BlackEmma Frost - BlackColossus - ColorlessKitty Pryde - Blue
>>92636789I would rather have Arena devs making this game than whoever is in WotC creative.
>>92636742Being a vastly powerful sorceress I would imagine it would be trivial for her to make herself sexy and youthful again.
>>92636789From watching the few arena vids, i'd rather them have control. She actually looks sexy here.
>>92636704It's not dogshit, but it's at the point of being a game that comes in a box instead of a collectible card game. There are about 300 cards in the format.
>>92636625Post more sexy feminine Chandra.
>>92636875denied
Should I sell one of my ornate chess sets to purchase a bunch of proxies from mpc?
>>92636888This seems overkill and the Ulamogs we have already pretty fucking overkill
>>92636913Hey this isn't blurry enough I can actually make it out
>>92636913More interesting that It That Doubles Triggers
>>92636913>>92636961Definitely running this as my shitty Devoid commander instead of whatever garbage Ulakek is supposed to be. Scion/Spawn support is my shit.
>>92636888>No evasionGets chump blocked by a squirrel lol
>someone plops down a porno mat to play onYour response?
>>92637097I cum and pass priority
>>92637097>playing in japan>see a guy with koume shirasaka sleeves and playmat>he's playing traditional reanimator (not ub tempo version)Based beyond belief.
>>92637097Sit silently while the store owner kicks him out and then take my W
>>92636807You do realise regaining her youth post-Mending was literally the crux of her getting her demonic contract, right?
>>92636875Oh they actually printed something that theoretically beats poison. It's 'opponent' so it's nowhere near as good for that but it's still funny.
>>92637260That was actual immortal life. I'm sure she can do a simple body transformation.
>>92637097I use a shag carpet remnant I got from Family Dollar for seven dollars.
>>92637360Improbably based
>>92637271Suncleanser already did that
>>92636285I build gunpla, bike, and do illustration. Magic is a prerelease and night with buds kind of thing, not a fnm and gp grind kind of thing (are gps even a thing anymore?/
>>92637075i would argue that annihilator 5+ is evasion
>>92637207>ref ref ref ref ref hey ref my opponent is stinky ref ref ref refOkay reftard.
>>92636913>it's another "legendary creature with arbitrary WUBRG activated ability' episode
>>92637537Hey man you knowingly brought porn to a family friendly store FNM is not a joking matter I need that store credit
could 2 increasing vengeance work in blue red storm? 8 rituals never feels like enough
>>92637812The judge at my LGS is pretty cool. He jokingly asked why the girl on one of my playmats - pic related but not my photo - had a bulge, and I heard him explaining to someone once about how he's had to ask different people to put their mats away.I have another mat that a guy told me was "creepy" immediately after I beat him in an RCQ. I think he was just venting but it was still funny.
>>92633337>blocks you're creature with a 1/1
>>92632956rotation will solve most of the problems>no slowfetches>no channel lands>no raffinethat's most of the problems gone in one swoop
I just finished my first challenge on MTGO and went 3-3. It was stressful more than anything and I don't think I'll play one again unless I'm rolling in tix.
>>92638774nice reimoo mat anon
>>92638941i don't know how people handle the stress of competitive mtg when $5-10 is on the line.
>>92638833you know that's not even the good version of that deck right, the good one has monstrous rage and flash equipments
>>92639380I was playing for my entry fee back as well, I just don't want to sink more money into the game than I have to.
>>92638941It's the high difficulty setting, of course it's going to be hard. Still, I think you did well going 3-3 if it was your first league at that level.What deck did you play?
>three steps ahead, countering your spell, copying to make my 4th ancient cornucopia, draw a card discard a card, return 2x intimidation campaigns to my hand>gain 3 life and go up to 48, untap, recast campaigns and gain 8 life and go up to 56Its amazing how well my win condition of "Crush the enemies soul until they concede" actually worksIts like the era where you could pretend to be a nexus of fate / teferi deck with no nexus in itI can't actually win games if my opponent has enough lifegain and fields of ruin and just goes 30 turns until we mill out
>>92638774so, y does reimoo have peepee?
>>92639644Thanks man. I was just playing, in Legacy, stock UB reanimator. I dislike the deck but am just trying to earn currency so I can play tier 3 brews in leagues without my PP/tix being on a knife's edge.
>>92636875Why black farewell is better than actual farewell?
>>92636888No indestructible = soulless>>92636875Worse farewell >>92636913Shit commander card
>>92639848>>92639848>>92639848
>>92639787if you're just farming, play red prison with Bombardiers
>>92639859Sure, I actually prefer prison or stompy decks anyway. Do you mean goblins or moon though, and why?
>>92628551Duals ok the rl is the most retarded fucking bullshit. After all the exploitive nonsense keeping up the price of a few fuck heads dual collection is stupid. Print the fucking duals. Restricting mana is trash and feels like shit.
>>92636875Hammbros, we're eating good.
