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>>16147648starship OF-1 and OF-2
I fucked up the OP a little bit sorry guys
G-guys did dreamchaser launched?
How do any of you think we have the 30-40 years of status quo left to get something off this shithole to be self sustaining, just look at this ffs.
>>16145877this dude is a genius
>>16147660money is super-neutral in the long run and growing the supply at a more-or-less constant annual rate is one of the least threatening things facing spaceflight
>you don't live in the superior flying saucer universe
>>16147666>currency becoming worthless, rampant inflation wiping out everyone's holdings and debt becoming unpayable is one of the least threatening things to spaceflight Ok lil dude
>>16147660We’ll make it; you need to be optimistic. We’re closer than we have ever been. Imagine if the only ‘big’ rocket we had was SLS—they would be saying “Mars 2060” and even THAT would feel impossible. Starship will probably shave 20-25 years off of that for first boots, and will accelerate a semi-permanent presence on mars and almost certainly a permanent presence around and on the Moon.
Is there a good resource for people that want to understand orbital mechanics better? I play ksp and can do just about anything in that game but I'm interested in having a higher understanding
>>16147672Theres classes in college dedicated to this you know.
I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Starship, is in fact, Superheavy/Starship, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Superheavy plus Starship. Starships is not an LEO truck unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning launch system made useful by the Superheavy raptor engines, reusability, and vital fuel system components comprising a full Stack as defined by Von Braun.
>>16147658No. It's going up on a Vulcan.
>>16147679So its never going up
>>16147672https://openlearninglibrary.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITx+16.00x+2T2019/courseware/89afcc2356ec40b08ad327c3bf8c1523/6bd11f8f5cab476d8a1c6ab1ca20105c/?activate_block_id=block-v1%3AMITx%2B16.00x%2B2T2019%2Btype%40sequential%2Bblock%406bd11f8f5cab476d8a1c6ab1ca20105chttps://ocw.mit.edu/courses/16-346-astrodynamics-fall-2008/2s of googling
>>16147680Vulcan is flying now. Credit to ULA, they nailed their first launch.
>>16147648ZERO POSTS IN AND THREAD RUINED. THANKS FAGGOT OP
>>16147683God. BE4 is so much better than raptor.
>>16147684Im sorry for the dishonor Ive caused, I will sepuku shortly
>>16147670>t. economcially illiteratethe problem is wealth inequality, deflation of the value of money over time is not a problem at all. If we switched to trading bars of gold, all the present economic problems would still exist or get worse.>>16147660>not sing the log chartNGMI
>>16147670inflation isn't rampant, everyone's holdings aren't getting wiped out, and the USD isn't going to become worthless in the foreseeable future. a booming economy isn't a necessary prerequisite for a booming spaceflight industry, and our economy could be in much worse shape than it's currently in and you'd continue to see substantial progress made just because of the military necessity.
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>>16147692>the problem is wealth inequality, deflation of the value of money over time is not a problem at all. If we switched to trading bars of gold, all the present economic problems would still exist or get worseWords can't express how stupid you are, cant even use deflation/inflation correctly. Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.>>16147693>inflation isn't rampantLol nigger WHAT. Have you seen the price of, i dont know, anything, over the last 10 years??? Don't look at shadowstats to see real inflation and not the propaganda figure if you want to stay in your comfy little delusion bubble. They can't raise rates anymore without crashing the entire financial apparatus into oblivion and they can't revert without inflation shitting even harder. This is the beginning of the end of the fiat death spiral.
>>16147677do not capitalize the 'v' in "von" you fucking dirty nigger
>>16147698>cant even use deflation/inflation correctlyNPC. What you are complaining about is deflation of the value of money. Maybe you have never realized that inflation of the price of goods and services is connected to deflation of the value of money? BTW in case you didn't know, interest rates are actually NEGATIVE, because the value of money deflates faster than the interest rate. That's why all large companies take on debt, because it's financially insane not to. The government is the same, it issues bonds because the it's basically free money. Until the day when actual interest rates become positive, the government can do it forever. What are people gonna do? Not buy bonds? The day the government becomes insolvent it will be because of a planned exit scam or because there are much bigger problems than too much debt
>>16147683WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR I NEED DREAMCHASER
>>16147693>inflation isn't rampantThat is a blatant lie and you are aware that you are telling a lie when you post it.
So... SpaceX is building a flame trench... Can I get my apology from all retards who claimed they didnt need one?
>>16147683SLS nailed it's first launch too. There are some small benefits to enduring an extremely prolonged development cycle>>16147708They're waiting for Dreamchaser to finish it's pre-launch testing campaign. It should be ready at some point in Q4
>>16147710Things are more expensive than they were a few years ago, yes, but they aren't noticeably more expensive than the were last year or last month, or last week.
>>16147715Youre fucking satanic.
2 months until OFT42 years until Artemis 2
>>16147661I'm doing my part!
>>16147711Theyre building it at Masseys for testing, not for flights. Your lack of IQ is not grounds for me to retract my statement.
>>16147719>we'rewere
>>16147723Go back to discord tranny
>>16147720So surreal watching the cope and denial until te moment they are taking off with a massive concrete flame deflector. It's te same as when you noobs were shilling transpiration cooling.
>>16147715Fuck off, ass
>>16147725baka
>>16147725ESL
>>16147727What are they taking off? Their panties?
>>16147725Learn english
>>16147714>at some point in Q4Old space timelinesMotherfucker i left in 2022 and it was about launch wtfff
Don't even need to comment on that mysoginy
>>16147725YWNBAW
>>16147733>>16147732>>16147738>>16147744Saaaaaaamefaaaaaaaag
https://www.youtube.com/live/rNk8E6QqF2Ygreat show
insane that they were allowed to get away with this
>>16147745I would never post a frog retard
>>16147745ESL means English Second Language
>>16147750>these are the voyages of the starship... starship
>>16147750its perfect
>>16147752>>16147751>>16147745>>16147744>>16147738>>16147733>>16147732All me btw
encels, we will live in this
>>16147750
>>16147750Orbital...refilling :)
>>16147741https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/vulcans-second-launch-likely-to-be-delayed-until-at-least-september/>In fact, there is skepticism within the space agency about a fall launch. According to one source, during a recent meeting to integrate planning for space station activities, there were significant inconsistencies in the schedule that Sierra Space officials laid out for NASA.>It is possible that Dream Chaser will not be ready to launch until 2025, and then its flight will be subject to the space station schedule, which must coordinate arriving crew and cargo vehicles from SpaceX, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and Russia.https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1776069257576497327>In a statement this evening from Col. James T. Horne of Space Systems Command, the Space Force confirms it will require two certification flights of Vulcan. Given the concerns about Dream Chaser outlined in the original story, it will be interesting to see what flies on Cert-2.If they can't find another test flight payload Vulcan might have to wait a year between its first and second launches
>>16147661>cooperate
Please take a moment out of your evening to say a quick prayer for the unfortunate astronauts who may be climbing aboard Starliner on the 6th.
>>16147757why>>16147750perfection
>>16147762Who would want to fly on Vulcan after it shook that moonar lander to death?
>>16147762Fuuck
>>16147716>>16147731I'm not denying there's been inflation, but but yall are making it out to be much worse than it is. The US isn't in a Venezuela or Weimar style inflationary spiral. If it was, we wouldn't be seeing the growth in commercial space industries like we are now. Yall are just Zoomers who weren't economically cognizant before the trump administration.
>>16147766we will venture deep into the dark sea my fren
>>16147773
>>16147764Is it worth it take PTO and drive over, or will it scroob? It's only 3 hours for me
>>16147769https://www.satellitetoday.com/launch/2023/09/29/ula-targets-oct-6-launch-date-for-amazon-kuiper-prototypes/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterKuiper is supposed to have its first batch of production hardware ready to launch in October.
>>16147773i mean i get it, i used to feel the same way at that age. dollar doomerism has a thrill to it in the same way that climate doomerism can be thrilling if you're more inclined toward the left. it just becomes less fun with age and it's never a useful framework for planning for the future.
>>16147787Wrong October, but I wonder if any batches will be ready this year that could be bumped off Atlas.Otherwise, a dummy payload is simple enough.
>>16147773>>16147789shills. have you SEEN the price of eggs?
>>16147791Who the fuck eats eggs
>>16147791I don't look at the price of eggs before I buy them
>>16147782What? Did you just graduate with some coding degree and a pile of student debt and suddenly realize that you cant get that comfy high paying WFH job you thought would fall right in your lap?
>>16147800Shut the fuck up
>>16147791the price of eggs is up because there's a bird flu outbreak and chicken farmers are having to kill infected flocks. the same thing happened in 2015 and the average price of a dozen eggs shot up to $2.96. the average price today... is $2.99.
>>16147698>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.they're crashing this country with no survivors (except for those who return from their New Zealand/Hawaii bunkers when the smoke clears)
>>16147792>>16147796vindictive sacks of shit. I can't even get gains because my egg smoothies blow the bank. girls won't look at me.>>16147805this seriously wouldn't have happened under a trump presidency though.
>>16147802Consider construction. Large and growing manpower shortage in every trade. Play your cards right and you could be welding for SpaceX in a few years
>>16147810>gym bro wonders why no girls like him>trump spasticyou should probably learn what percentage of women vote dem. not saying give up your thoughts but maybe keep it hidden.
>>16147810>trump could totally stop a bird fluLmao he did handle covid very well. Just because he got to ride the crest of the post 2008 financial crisis recovery and cut taxes while he did, you idiots think he's some sort of economic genius
Please shut the fuck up
I posted it a couple of threads ago, but there's a few things that suggest Arianespace has been cutting corners.https://europeanspaceflight.com/the-mysterious-ariane-6-upper-stage-hot-fire-test/There's a chance we get a delay instead of a launch. Or something else.
>>16147820trump was infinitely better than Biden.>>16147815I'm not a gym bro, but I simply east 4 eggs less a week due to bidets disastrous economy which has hampered my gains
>>16147786It's impossible to anticipate the incompetence of Boeing. If launch looks likely three days out, I'd say take the time off for the chance to see what will be Starliner's only manned flight.
>>16147826Where do you get the cutting corners idea from?
I haven't checked in with the EM propulsion schizo scene recently, what's new?
https://twitter.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1783969126093840498Boring company trying to achieve z-pit or zero people in the tunnel, would be prett good for marsBasically autonomous boring machines
>>16147836>>16143976
>>16147826>>16147836my first reaction reading that is that they're probably having some software issue which is erroneously shutting things down in off-nominal conditions.
>>16147837New meme drive dropped last weekhttps://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/
>>16147837Someone copied the other dudes ideaThe satellite test failed due to the sat shitting itself conveniently before the test could be conducted
>>16147842Lol
>>16147834Noted. I've been living in Florida for a while now and haven't made it out to the cape to see a launch yet. I've only seen an Atlas III and the Shuttle go up, but that was a long time ago
>>16147846That presentation was in December. Neat that they're claiming it generates as much thrust as the drive's own mass, but if there hasn't been another peep out of them since then, my hopes are minimal.
>>16147851to be fair it apparently took 4 months after that presentation happened for anyone to notice and report on it. the youtube channel has a several videos posted since so if somebody wants to sit through 20+ hours of presentations there may well have been updates since: https://www.youtube.com/@AltPropulsionConference/streams
>>16147850I lied, I didn't see an Atlas, it was one of the last Titan IV launches. I could see an atlas go next week if they don't scrub at the last minute
>>16147859I would look through them but I am starting to hate the sensation of hope
>>16147757Enceladus's ice skin is too thick to permit the pissweak sunlight that Saturn gets to reach the ocean. It would be deeper black than space itself.
>>16147761>>16147750Starship uses two different cryogenic propellants: liquid Starship and liquid Starship
>>16147914Starship is stored in the balls.
>>16147840I hope we can also achieve what I call "z-noe".
the number of people thinking that plane ufo abduction fake video thing is real makes me weep for humanity, people found the VFX effect it used like two years ago. god damn. elon y u reply to it
>>16147815>you should probably learn what percentage of women vote demWhite women are as likely to vote Republican as Dem
>>16147924I remember seeing the VFX reveal on /x/ in real time, the cope evolved into flat denial and schizophrenia very quickly.It's mostly just funny. Don't waste your compassion and desire for mutual understanding on strangers, anon.
>>16147928>white
Give it to me straight brosLunar regolith concrete, yes or no?
>>16147956I prefer the new ICON Olympus suggestion from LunA-10 that basically 3D prints roads from regolith but if mixing regolith concrete is what we need to do then thats fine by me too.
>>16147956You need a whole different bunch of ingredients to make cement, primarily lime. How much lime is there on the moon? Ehhhhh. Only way I see lunar material used for construction is direct melting of regolith, sintering layers of it or something.
>>16147963Which is exactly what ICON said they would do with bots. Yes I am beginning to shill their solution because it seemed they really researched it and did some actual math and practical tests.
I am a SpaceX, Vast and now ICON shill. Are there any other sectors of the spaceflight industry that I should look in to shilling?
What if you start digging into the moon and two feet down you reach a smooth continuous metal surface extending in all directions
>>16147973Someone will blame the jews is all I know
>>16147972Woah.
>>16147972he's fast
>>16147973they've taken cores deeper than that
>>16147990Thats not the point of a hypothetical.
>>16147999look, you need to tailor your hypotheticals to the audience and /sfg/ simply knows too many counterfactuals to that sort of promptit also doesn't bear up with the lunar seismometer data
>>16148000I didnt make the hypothetical.
>>16148002then don't fucking post it, retardwhy did you think we would find that interesting?
>>16147928Only if they're married.
>>16148004I DIDNT POST IT EITHER YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHY DONT YOU KICK YOUR BRAIN INTO HIGH GEAR IF YOU CANT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT BASIC IMPLICATION
>>16148009if you didn't post it then why are you trying to defend it?
>>16148010BECAUSE youre being a STUPID and RETARDED FAGGOT about it and RUINING the FUN of a hypothetical in just thinking of what would be different, FAG.
>>16148011frustrated, anon?
>>16147973pressure seal a habitat to it and when the temperature is just right put my balls on it
>>16148013Brr, that would be brisk>>16147990Deeper then, let's say it was discovered that rock only goes down so far (name your depth) before yielding to metal. Hollow or solid who knows, how would you even begin to investigate further?
>>16148017cut it? cutting metal isn't that hard
>>16148018Yes it is.
>>16148031maybe it's aluminum foil
>>16148031fool
>>16147909I trust you, so i will bring night vision googles
>>16148018>>16148031it's not that easy in metallurgy
>>16148042just throw enough high speed corundum at it, or maybe diamondget it hot and hit it with oxygenstraight up a heat attack, boil it away with directed energy
>>16148043Yeah youre clearly retarded.
>>16148047>those methods of cutting metal simply won't work because they just won't>ignores that it's fucking piss easy and anybody can just do itwe've developed an entire civilization based off of cutting metals, anon
>>16148018Maybe its super old, maybe its alien. You sure you wanna just hack away at it first thing?
>>16148050yeah, obviously, you got a better plan? whack it with a hammer and listen to the vibrations to tell how thick it is maybe, do it with a fancier system to get more detailed information if you're a pussy
>>16148017Go to the nearest mascon, it's probably a doorBegin excavating
>>16147672/sfg/ - Spaceflight General
>>16148063God I hope this happens
I have no mouth but I must sneed
Top 10 Photos Taken Before Disaster
>>16148074Thats just a shadow, chud. Stop fudding starliner
>>16148074Imagine training your whole life, being a fighter pilot, getting masters degrees, sucking some NASA nergress' toes, enduring all the bullshit only to turn into a Boeing(tm) fireball.
>>16148074You only posted one photo retard
>>16148079Eat shit and die
>>16148079Honestly, this looks kino
>>16148084We all do it
>>16148088Do it. Poo it.
What's a good space flight game
Earth? If you guess that, you were wromg.This is Titan, the largest Moon of Saturn.Yup, that's what it looks like. James Webb Space Telescope
>>16148096Fake. And. Gay.
>>16148097It's science fact
>>16148096All color images on the James Webb Space Telescope save for the shortest wavelengths on NIRCAM are acts of creative interpretation, falling into red, infrared, and mid-infrared exclusively.
>>16148104Why is the photo green, blue, brown? Continents, plants and ocean
>>16148096why do astronomers lie?
>>16148109Why do chuds fud?
>>16147791Here in Russia, they've grown 3 times in December.
>>16147698>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.Can you explain why? Or is it just a slogan you repeat.
>>16148078the last two werent fireballs, why would this one be any different? the only difference is there are real people on board, so arguably more safety checks.they'll be fine like the last ones were
>>16148096Why would Earth looks brown from space? what kind of drooling retard would think this is Earth? wtf?
>>16148137here you dropped this L
>>16147928Do they become liberal because they are mentally ill or does being liberal requires you to develop mental illness to stay liberal despite reality creeping in?
>>16148050Look why do you just tell us your preferred answer to your hypothetical so we can cut to the chase and bypass your railroading.
>>16148151Every. Single. Time.
>>16148140it looks blue and white from space. what you posted isnt a satellite image
>>16148164stop noticing things anti semite
>>16147738No, you dont learn english as a non english speaking person, you just pick some of it up by watching tv. the anglo's screaming ESL faggot all the time is just a bonus.
>>16147689is that why BE4 worse in every concievable way, including ISP?
>>16147972H-HAYAI!
>>16148250Kys pajeet
>>16148253>t. pretends to not know about raptor real isp or is just ignorant
>>16148292>real raptor ISPthe one that has been and still is higher than BE-4's?
>>16148300>40t to orbit actual payload out of 100t projecteduhm... yeah... about that......
TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.
>>16148320>>16148322Static fire?
>>16148331THATS THE ACTUAL FUCKING LAUNCH YOU IDIOT.
>>16148333Retarded nigger. >>16148331No B11 transport and maybe another SF
SpaceX has over 13k employees, that means each launch costs about 130 employees yearly wages which is a hard lower bound on launch costs. If SpaceX wasnt doing R&D and was jsut focused on profitmaxxing I wonder how few employees they could have for the same F9 launch cadence?
>>16147648REPEAT AFTER ME: 16 (actually confirmed by NASA to be 17) LAUNCHES for 1 mission!
>>16148342Like 100.
>>16148346>REPEAT AFTER MEgo back to xitter
>>16148346>12 days laterThey mean 12 minutes, right?
>>16147757>square cross sectionDoes it have a pressure vessel in it?
>>16147660>>16147666>>16147670I think the problem with recent inflation, as it pertains to spaceflight, isn't the inflation itself, rather it is the interest payments on US federal debt. Interest payments are increasing rapidly, and will keep doing so the longer the Fed has to keep interest rates high, which it needs to do to keep the inflation rate down. The more the US government has to pay in interest, the less money will be left for vanity projects, because vanity projects are among the politically easiest things to not fund.Interest payments are already 3.1% of GDP and projected to reach 3.9% of GDP by 2034. In parallel to this, mandatory spending is projected to increase from 13.9% of GDP to 15% of GDP. Federal nondefense discretionary spending is 3.3% of GDP, projected to be 2.6% of GDP by 2034, because something has to compensate. And this assumes that federal defense discretionary spending goes down a lot as a % of GDP, despite a spiraling cold war with China & co who have faster economic growth than the US & co haveOf course, GDP will increase in the meantime, so 2.6% of GDP wouldn't be a 21% reduction in absolute terms. Still, it means less money *than otherwise could have been available*
>>16147648Fat Falcon 9 (5m)
>>16148370He doesn't know about rectangular PVs
>>16148396Of course they can be built, however a circular cross section is the optimal shape, no?
>>16148399I was gonna shitpost and say "its hard to build circles" but then I remembered how easy it is in pressure vesselry.
>>16147707>interest rates are actually NEGATIVEYou mean, real interest rates are negative. Nominal interest rates certainly aren't.Real interest rates are positive rn, they are higher than inflation
>>16147698>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.It is manageable, as long as the interest on that debt remains low
>>16148390
>>16148454Shut the fuck up
>>16148430this is the world they wanted when they created all the fucking "entitlements" and started allowing foreigners in
That moment when you left the flash on
https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1784082039198941313Well? How is SpaceX supposed to compete?
Long March 5 with Chang'e 6 rolled out. Planned launch on May 3
Progress on the new double door VAB at Wenchang
It's over.
>>16148495
>>16148495I like my astronauts extra crispy
>>16148495surely tiles for capsule re-entry were figured out with apollo? why not use the same material?>shKKKK4
>>16148501Apollo sued ablative too. The heat shield thing is not a problem, just NASA is sperging because it's not exactly what they predicted in their models. In Apollo a 1 in 10 risk of mission loss was seen as ok so they never speged about such things
How long will it take for Nasa to let astronauts go on a starship with their safety autism.
>>16148495just build and test 10 more orions, should be easy given their budget
>>16148507the only US crewed vehicle to not have a launch escape system was the shuttle and we all know how that went. A crewed starship would probably require a unique variant that has super super dracos and a detachable crew compartment
>>16148507>>16148511Most of the risky stuff happens on launch. I imagine that NASA will allow astronauts to transfer from orion to starship without much fuss. On the other hand, it's going to be a long time before astronauts can launch on starship.
>>16148495If the US ever lands another man on the moon and brings him back to Earth alive it's going to be using SpaceX hardware for the whole mission."We'll fuck around for decades and test once or twice if you're lucky" is perhaps the worst way to do anything.
>>16147707>Companies are financially insane not to sell bonds>Investors, what are they gonna do, not buy bonds?
>>16148511the big brain answer is that Starship is the launch escape vehicle- is on top- can detach from the booster- can throost high enough for a successful landingcompare with shittle- is on side- can not detach during launch and boost- can not throost itself high enough to land- it just detached from its fuel even if it could throost enough
>>16148511>unique variant that has super super dracos and a detachable crew compartmentelon can just steal from philip bono again
>>16148528Why are you decapitating and cremating this man?
>>16148536Why is this rocket søyfacing
>>16148539take your meds
>>16148539>>16148541sus
>>16148530If starship can fly without failure enough times, It doesn't make sense to include a flight abort system. We barely use them anyways, and you could spend all the time you spent on the LAS on making the rocket more reliable instead. With how many times falcon 9 has launched, crew dragon will probably never end up having to use its abort system.
>>16148541What did anon mean by this?
>>16148545risperidone NOW
ANOTHER reusable rocket unveiled, it will splash down in the ocean and towed back to port>>16148394based
>>16148547I cant find one in this so you win Ill take my meds
>>16148528imagine the wedgie
>>16148550why do people make companies and get investors based on obviously retarded ideas? Propulsive landing is lcearly superior to water landing. The only reason to do water landing is if you don't have flight computers good enough
>noooo! HLS is too tall it'll topple! nooooooo!
>>16148555maybe their flight computers aren't good enough lolbut i mean there are plenty of bad ideas that get funding sadly
>>16148550Have they explained how they're going to deal with all the salt water corroding everything?
>>16148559and, now that I think about it, doesn't that mean that they have to build this thing so it can flop down into the water without breaking? That's a lot of payload mass wasted, however they do it.
>>16148555Maybe they're running on a shoestring budget and don't want to make the extra investment, at least not yet. They'd need landing legs, a test rig for the landing legs, a ship, more sensors and better control so as to reduce the risk of wrecking the ship, etc. Space Epoch isn't even developing their own engines, they're buying existing engines from JZYJ. So perhaps Space Epoch doesn't want to tell their investors yet that they're going to need another few hundred million RMB before they can do proper reuse - that'll be a "surprise" for later.
>>16147974that's just your guilty conscience speaking
>>16148572Is this implying Im a jew or implying that I put the steel floor on the moon.
>>16148579>steelthe moon floor is made of titanium, anon
>>16148495It's going to turn out that they got scammed by a contractor not actually testing materials again, just watch
>>16148507The first astronaut to fly on Starship wont be a NASA astronaut
>>16147661How does he think NASA gets anything done?
>>16148585like the steel they have been building navy subs out of for decades? Is the woman behind faking those tests in prison or not right now?
>>16148501>>16148504the whole justification for designing orion as an apollo clone in the first place was that all of the work on the thermal/aerodynamic characteristics had already been done and they weren't going to have to lose any time due to sperging over unexpected results. now they're doing it anyway.
>phenolic resin heatshields are now a lost technology its so over
Just started watching the joe rogan episode with the moon landing denier, this dude is delusional as fuck.
>>16148602I don't like to make myself mad so I skipped that one.>>16148581Or maybe some exotic alloy we haven't identified yet. Discovering that the moon was artificial would be such a shock that I'm not sure what the next step would even be using that information. Do you cut into it to see what's inside? Can you? Search around for openings? Try x-raying it? You could have a whole Rama-like story of just figuring out what the hell the moon is and why its there.
>>16148602that was real? I scrolled past some thumbnails or shorts on youtube with that silently autoplaying with captions and I thought it was just AI spam
>>16148609Put a nuclear reactor on the surface and loads of antineutrino detectors all over the Moon to probe the interior is what I'd do
>>16148609the moon is made from titanium, anonbasically everything that's not silicon and oxygen is titanium except for the parts that are made from iron
>>16148602Number of times Artemis has been to the moon: 0They are literally just waiting for AI to be powerful enough to generate reasonable doubt in a falsification story, then they will appeal to complexity as an explanation why the conspiracy is impossibru.
>>16148624The fuck are you even doing here.
I just don't believe in the moon. nobody's ever been able to give me good proof that it was real. all the photos of it look fake. you really want me to believe there a big rock spinning around us a quarter of a million miles away? yeah, ok. sure.
>>16148624Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>16148633Its the trump OP btw
>>16148636it was pretty convincing when it blocked the sun earlier
>>16148640Nta but it's a little weird that its just the right distance and size to do that. Does any other moon fully eclipse the sun in our solar system?
>>16148644noif interstellar space travel was easier we'd be a galactic tourism hotspot on eclipse dates
>>16148644I think you can get total eclipses on the various moons of Jupiter and Saturn but don't quote me on that but otherwise noPluto/Charon are too big and everything else is too small
>>16148636Encouraging skepticism toward widely accepted scientific facts, such as the existence of the moon, can hinder intellectual progress and promote anti-science sentiments, potentially impacting critical thinking skills and the advancement of society as a whole.
>>16148651moon believers really have to make chatGPT write their 4chan posts huh
How would you explain trump to an alien?
>>16148151Ojai us like 80 miles from the launch pad too. Insufferable Cali nimby
>>16148555I think China's launch sector is in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode right now, with easy money available even for ideas that would normally be dismissed as harebrained. Kerosene, methane, gas generator cycle, ORSC, FFSC, staged combustion tap-off cycle, steel, aluminium, big, small, medium, tricore, pentacore, asymmetrical dual-core(!), propulsive landing, VTHL, HTHL, TBCC first stage, air launch, electromagnetic launch rail, etc, are all being worked on by someone.If XZY-1's splash recovery mode fails, well, at least it can probably be redesigned to land on a barge with modest changes, and used as an expendable vehicle while they redesign it to land on a barge
>>16148662>I think China's launch sector is in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode right now, with easy money available even for ideas that would normally be dismissed as harebrained.let a thousand flowers bloom isn't a bad strategy if you're trying to come from behind. 15 years ago nobody besides a few internet spergs thought propulsive landing of a first-stage booster could do much good and then it ended up being the best thing to ever happen.
>>16148672Beautiful
>>16148672>>16148675samefag aifag footfag
>>16148676nonono
proof
>>16148454oh no bidenbros, how are we going to spin this
>>16148672Beautiful feet my dear
Is this a plausible design?
>>16148644This is your brain on copernican-principle bullshit.
>>16148683kekWhy do they always write like this?
>>16148346>landing 50 tons on the moon is more complicated than landing 2 tons on the moonshocker
>>16148701They think it makes them sound less creepy and weird.
>>16148705no you don't understand, we shouldn't do hard things. apollo must not have been hard because we did it fifty years ago. we should not try to improve on that, it's too much work. it can't happen
>>16148662>it can probably be redesigned to land on a barge with modest changesI think if the splash doesn't work it'll just die. A big advantage of this strategy is that even if a lot of them are unsuccessful there are going to be at least a few that are
>>16148708>>16148701>701▶>>16148708>>>16148683>>16148683>>16148679>>16148678>>16148676>>16148675>>16148672all (You) btw
>>16148712(You)/(I) missed:>>16148712>>16148719
lol
https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1784239038058103070
>>16148730Why arent we funding this??
>>16148730>design SSTO to be a lifting body to save mass on wings>too heavy, needs wings anyway>complex lifting body fuel tanks don't work and kill the whole programsad
>>16148739spaceplanes are gay
>>16148741i've seen people smarter than me speculate that the rockwell x-33 was designed so that it could have strap-on solids attached to the sides in case it couldn't meet its mass margins. might've been better than venturestar's development hell.
>>16148746if nothing else they would have at least gotten the test vehicle flyingalso they supposedly had plans to overhaul the shuttles with X-33 tech which would have been nice (source: some faggot on twitter)
>>16148074I feel sorry for him, but he will have Baba Yaga on board, so maybe she's going to enchant the Starliner in order to get them safely to ISS and back.
>>16148752>overhaul the shuttlesUpgrading the TPS would be a priority but I haven't seen a proposal that didn't add so much weight it made the vehicle functionally useless.
>>16148764apparently the new tiles would be lighter, more durable and easier to refurbish (source: some faggot on twitter)
https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206013782241364
>>16148769
>>16148752>>16148764>>16148767
>>16148780little to no difference
>>16148780ngl I like the new flaps
>>16148792yet you probably sitll hate v3 starship
>>16148796I DO
>>16148739It was going to put all the other rocket companies out of business so it had to go.
>>16148780The booster is gonna look sick with all those engines exposed firing and making the mega mach diamond.
>>16148773replacing the OMS with cryoengines (rl-10s?) would've been fairly easy since the pods were their own separate apparatus, but there's no way nasa would have ever actually pulled the trigger on cryogenic maneuvering propellant on a manned spacecraft.
>>16148818shuttle was epic, but they got stuck with a shitty system and neevr upgraded for muh safety. Ironically if they replaced the solids with liquid boosters then both disasters wouldn't have happened. And that would also mean that the OMS wouldn't have to fire for half the flight just to get to orbit which would allow them to go to higher objects
>shuttle was epic
>>16148825>shuttle was epicstopped reading there, oldspacecuck.
>>16148825>shuttle was epicIt was, ignore the haters.
>>16148843Looking cool was the Shuttle's only positive feature
>>16148818That is why Starship will beat them to Mars. Imagine not being able to use ISRU to refill your RCS budget.
>>16148709so true, so true.
>>16148853Brainwashed
/sfg/ is to the shuttle what redditlettermedia is to the star wars prequels - baseless nitpicking and lies for millennials to mindlessly spew until it becomes the received opinion
>>16148875It's all relative. Compare with the stacked cylinders that preceded it
>>16148890how fucking dare you slander saturn V you worthless ingrate MAGGOT>>16148887>everyone who doesnt agree with me is redditfound the redditor
>>16148887Cope. The Shuttle was inferior to the Saturn V in every way imaginable.>reddit>star warsexpected nothing less of a Shuttloid pedo guy
>>16148887the thing that really gets me about shuttle is how they got the thing flying only 2 years behind schedule and more or less on budget. less than 1/5 of the money apollo/saturn had for something that in a lot of ways was more technically ambitious than apollo/saturn, and they more or less pulled it off. the engineering prowess of nasa and their contractors in the 1970s was in no way diminished from what it had been in the 1960s. if they had been given a better design to build i think it would've worked really well.
>>16148853shuttle was really good when you had payloads that needed human intervention to deploy them. satellites that couldn't unfold themselves, modular stations that needed someone to hold them in place while they bolt them together.This was sometimes worth the premium of manned spaceflight. unfortunately shuttle's requirement to always have a pilot on board incentivized them to waste money throwing even more astronauts at missions where they weren't really needed.it's all tradeoffs, and shuttle's were ones that /sfg/ aren't happy they made.
>>16148924Wrong. Still worse than a rocket with a capsule and one rocket with the payload.Especially when its about stations then the Shuttle makes no sense whatsoever since you can asynchronously launch capsules the and then have the astronauts EVA when the payload arrives.
>>16148924The shuttle's flight rate issues were mostly due to congress canceling the space station and lunar base elements of STS. What was left was no where near enough to close the economic case, so they decided to cancel every other American launch system in a desperate attempt to make the Shuttle work.
>>16148559it's going to be waterproof
>>16148602moon landing deniers don't exist
>>16148924there's been some vague innuendo over the years that whatever spysat got launched on the infamous sts-27 had some sort of failure immediately after deployment, but they were able to re-rendezvous and capture it and fix the problem. there were some moments when launching crew with every cargo looked like it had been a smart move.
>>16148644fakeI saw the eclipse on TV and it looks like a Mexican ballsack
>>16148941That joke would fly over the head of most moon landing deniers&flat earthers
>>16148956This guy was based actually. Just wanted to ride rockets and grifted flerfers to make it happen.
>>16148454>Basic bitch pandemic happens as predicted >Every country on earth commits economic suicide
>>16148956I have seen several anons say this on /sfg/ back when it went down, but nobody actually has anything to back that up.
>>16148695no, but deploying rovers in KSP sucks ass so do what you must
>>16148960>>16148982This response was for you, i fucked up.
>>16148975It's because the boomers didn't have enough kids so we're living in gerontocracies.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/rocket-report-sls-workforce-cuts-new-glenn-launch-to-launch-in-the-early-fall/Small Rockets>Shetland spaceport advancing toward launch>Rocket Lab launches 5th Electron this year.>PLD Space has raised 120 million euros.Medium Rockets>SpaceX lands 300th Falcon booster>China launches astronaut mission. Heavy Rockets>China on track for 2030 lunar landing.>NASA considering changes to Artemis III.>Boeing will cut SLS workforce.>New Glenn to debut in September?
https://spacenews.com/advisory-committee-recommends-moving-faa-commercial-space-office-out-of-the-agency/>At an April 23 meeting, the FAA’s Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee (COMSTAC) unanimously approved a recommendation that the FAA’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation, or AST, be moved out of the FAA and turned into a standalone organization directly under the Secretary of Transportation.>Making the office independent of the FAA would give it more influence, Nield said, putting it at the same level as other modes of transportation. “You’d have access to the cabinet secretary. You’d have a seat at the table. You’d have the ability to more clearly make your case for needed resources and ask for help when there’s important issues to be decided,” he said.
>>16148996tl:dr the space section (AST) of FAA is going to be split off into its own agency directly under the secretary of transport, which will give it more resources
>>16148982idk man that's just what it says on his wikipedia article>Following Hughes' death, Darren Shuster, his public relations representative, stated: "We used flat Earth as a PR stunt... Flat Earth allowed us to get so much publicity that we kept going! I know he didn’t believe in flat Earth and it was a schtick."[24][4][25][26]>Science writer Mick West also came away convinced from talking to Hughes "that he was not driven by seeking to explain that the earth is flat but rather wanted to use the topic to promote his stuntman career."[27]>On the other hand, Michael Linn, who was a partner on the documentary Rocketman: Mad Mike's Mission to Prove the Flat-Earth, said that Hughes' belief appeared genuine.[4]
>>16149003This is news to me, the dude bamboozled a shitload of retards.
>>16149007bamboozling 101: make your lies more interesting than the truth
>>16148887the prequels aren't good but I like themSTS was fucking awful but at least it looked cool
>>16148931This, it was the original rocket to nowhere. As we saw with ISS the Shuttle was actually a pretty decent fit for space station construction. If that station had contained prop depots and a shipyard for assembling lunar/interplanetary stuff (and used LRBs) then we could have kickstarted the proper space expansion age by 1985 or so.
https://twitter.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1784331525074604205/Space planes as emergency ambulance in space
Wake up honey, Berger's COOKING:NASA still doesn’t understand root cause of Orion heat shield issue: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-still-doesnt-understand-root-cause-of-orion-heat-shield-issueNASA may alter Artemis III to have Starship and Orion dock in low-Earth orbit: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-may-alter-artemis-iii-to-have-starship-and-orion-dock-in-low-earth-orbit/?
imagine launching two dragon capsules, a falcon heavy launched recoverable payload bay vehicle for the capsules to dock to, and potentially another falcon 9 or falcon heavy launch for the payload that goes inside said vehicle.that's what you'd have to do to replicate the capability of your average shuttle launch, and the shuttle could do it all-in-one.I wish I lived in the timeline where it wasn't such a piece of shit.
>>16149057>LRBscoping shittlefag>proper space expansion ageunlikely to happen even now. there's no incentive for it to happen.
>>16149064Oh yeah, I read about Orion’s heat shield a while ago and meant to post it about it here. Someone (inside of NASA) wrote a personal blog post detailing the problem pretty well but it’s since been deleted
>>16149065As we're discovering with Starship, for manned payloads over a certain size, everything becomes shootly over time. Look at that illustration, it's basically an early Starship with full delta wings instead of two sets of flaps, and landing gear instead of header tanks for flip and burn landing.
>>16149064>NASA officials declared the Artemis I mission successful in late 2021how can you get the year wrong in the very first sentence?
>>16149057The job was a good fit for the shuttle's basic stats but it it really wanted to fulfill all of that it would have needed a dozens of launches per year and there was no way the shuttle as it existed was ever going to do that safely. If they added some performance with LRBs and then spent that on carrying a heavier but more durable heat shield they might have had a shot at it.
>>16149057>the Shuttle was actually a pretty decent fit for space station constructionThe Shuttle-C would have been but astronauts threw a fit for muh flight hours so it never got built
>>16148996>>16148998It's important that commercial spaceflight is directly overseen by a faggot who sucks cocks and gets fucked in the ass.
>>16149090His goals are beyond your understanding.>>16149134OP runs commercial spaceflight?
>>16148996FINALLY
>>16149143It’s a clark article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPA7iz6gQpwTime to watch Falcon 9 launch some European Galileo satellites. Weather is 70% goT-60:00
Is NASA worship a cult?
>>16149176oldspace is a cult yes
>>16149176>>16149185No. SpaceX is a cult. They have a cult leader with ultimate authority.NASA would not be so dysfunctional were they a cult.They are a dirty mess of complex intraorganization politics and its consequences.There is no clear vision, no religious fervor and no ultimate authority.
>>16148924Imagine giving up this for the Shuttle
>>16149175ehh at least it's not starlink
What do you call the era before oldspace (oldspace is shuttle-SpaceX start)? Would Saturn V and before be considered legacyspace?
>>16149189I don't have to, it happened.
>>16149194Saturn is in a league of its own. I would say around the Titan IV/Space Shuttle/Delta IV era
>>16149189What an amazing photo
>>16149189It was too big for anything but moon missions and too expensive to be continued long term. It's iconic but it was also set up for failure.
>>16149205>It was too big for anything but moon missionsIt was perfect for making giga fucking huge modular stations out of S-IVBs.
>>16148818What will you gain from cryo OMS? It's not like it's leaving LEO with all that bullshit dry mass. Also you can crossfeed between the RCS with hypergolics. Not worth the effort desu
>>16149234GPS repair missions, stealing enemy GEO sats.
>>16149205the before-the-end-of-the-decade line ended up being more curse than blessing in the long run. they had to drop all sorts of useful stuff for the sake of time - booster recovery, EOR, cryopropellant service modules, mission modules - all stuff that was assumed to be necessary developments before gagarin. if they'd let the first landing be pushed back into the 1970s we could've done it with partially-reusable saturn c3s and the moon program could've continued indefinitely.
>>16149175Expended booster too. Rare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBfhXG8RXcI live in the center of europe, i can take a shit in paris&london&berlin in a hour if i want to. But somehow i cant watch this bitch livestream without buffering out of japan.
>>16149292Japan is over an hour away
>>16149292>i can take a shit in paris&london&berlin in a hourThis is so delusional.
>>16149295maybe he flies in a v2
>>16149295By air he can for paris and berlin if he lives in central europe, london would be a stretch.
>>16149269They've got to be doing a direct injection into the Galileo's 23,600 km orbit. The last Galileo satellites went up singly on Soyuz-2-1bs with a Fregat to handle circularization. Normally a maneuver like that would be the payload's job, but if they can't handle that it's not surprising there's no reserve left in the Falcon for landing. This probably explains the grey extended mission paint on the S2 too.
>>16149304maybe he's convinced that the netherlands are the center of europe
there's nothing classified about galileo itself, right? so this is just another starshield ridealong?
>>16149310No, berlin and paris airports are inside of the city, london airports are outside of it.So you can fly from most euro airports to these cities and take a "shit" int them, but with london you still need to take the train or bus in to london.
>>16149315what if you have a private plane? can you shit out the door while flying over london?
>>16149316Sure, london streets are already full of shit, nobody will notice the difference.
>>16148557>When NASA leased pad A to SpaceX in 2014, the terms of the lease included a requirement that the rubber room, among other historic portions of the pad, be preserved as historical artifacts.[10]Huh.
>>16147672use the principia mod
>>16148086looks like a nominal stage sep to me
>>16148093reentry
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/178438203609624213840 flight certifications each boosters!!!!
>>16148473eww is that mold on the bottom of her right foot?
>>16149344I kneel. 40 reuses. New Glenn could never…
>>16149346No, that's just what white people look like, ranjeet.
>>16149346no, it's a hallucination from an AI
>>16149348Bezos would be dead by the time NG reuses hits double digits.
>>16148557https://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/spaceflight/launch/launch-pad-39a-safety-system/ neat
BREAKING: SpaceX loses yet another booster as it burns up in the atmosphere after losing all power and control! Reusability is a pointless endeavor.
>>16149351>double**single digits.
hold the fort, Mick Jagger is attempting to manually dock Orion to Starship
>>16149364he’s docking to david bowie’s tin can lmfao
>>16149358Elon Musk and SpaceX confirmed for fraud
>>16149364is this sum top gear m8?
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia26293-looking-into-ios-loki-patera-artists-concept>The large island in Loki Patera does not have a name
>Venus Colorized Clouds >This colorized picture of Venus was taken Feb. 14, 1990, from a distance of almost 1.7 million miles, about 6 days after NASA's Galileo made it closest approach to the planet.
>>16149362***bezos died
>>16149380I fucking love basedence, sisters
>>16149374why does Io get giant liquid lava lakes, but these are absent on Venus?
>>16149385Venus doesn't have a source of massive tidal heating to keep it volcanic at a planetary scale.
>>16149380Martian sand
>>16149385Venus is [probably] tectonically deadIo is small and happens to be orbiting a unit of a planet that, I guess, stretches and squeezes it quite a bit
venus is volcanically alive, we’ve just haven’t been collecting data on it
>>16148996>Federal Space Transportation Agencywe're moving up in the world
>Spaceflight regulation will be controlled by politicised admin appointments now>direction will change every 4-8 years >this is a good thing
>rejected by fireflyits over. its walmart or suicide for me.
>>16148887>Kills the most humans in spaceflight history>I swear guys it was good. The haters are all baseless nitpickersFuck off Nixon.
>>16149412You come work for me now
>>16149412https://spacecrew.com/space-companies>Search 108+ leading space industry companies hiring on Space Crew, from around the worldYou've still got some options
>>16149407now astronauts will get probed by blueshirts instead of aliens
>>16149315>you still need to take the train or bus into LondonLCY bro?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_City_Airport
>>16149412Reapply. With companies, no doesnt mean no forever. Keep applying and broaden your skill set at other companies to makd yourself more valuable
How standardized are spaceship dock ports?Are we stuck with the ISS one?Will the Artemis moon mission have a new design?
>>16149412Re-apply, I got rejected from my last job 4 times
>>16149445Kek I heard some fag on twitter got rejected 20 times by SpaceX before he got in to work in Starbase.
>>16149440The ISS one is the standard because it works and everyone uses it.
>>16149451>"LET ME IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN"
>>16149459Tbf to him I will probably do the exact same thing when Im out of college.
>>16149440There's the International Docking System Standard which is pretty much what it sounds like. Dragon and Starliner both use it, and so does everyone else in the west that wants to have something dock actively. For things like Cygnus and Dream Chaser there's the Common Berthing Mechanism, but that's got a lot more limitations in its use. Russia uses SSVP system (System for docking and internal transfer) on Soyuz and Progress, but it's a bit on the narrow side so Orel is planned to use a slightly wider version on ROS. China uses a version (described as "a clone") of the old APAS-95 system that the Shuttle used to dock to Mir back in the 90s, and it may or may not be comparable with modern IDSS ports. They've all got the same 31" diameter and the IDSS was developed directly from APAS-95 designs. Going forward it looks like they're going to just keep using IDSS because "it's the standard" and it works well enough for everyone. Gateway and Orion are being built with IDSS so even if someone else had a better idea it'd have a hard time finding a role where it's accepted.
>>16149473Starship Station variants will likely not use this because they would literally only be docking with other Starships btw. Also I'm not sure how well this standard will keep up with commercial space stations, espcially considering that some of them WILL be rotating which will add a factor that IDSS wasnt designed in mind with.
>>16149440>>16149452The ISS has seven different types of docking port types around the stationEveryone except the Chinese and Russians are going to use International Docking System Standard in the future
>>16149478Even India?
>>16149477Where would a docking port on Starship be located? You can't do pic related on the normal one because there's a header tank in the way.
>>16149480yes
>>16149480How else will they get into the ISS dedicated shitting module?
>>16149481dorsal, shuttle style
What is he thinking right now?
>>16149516>well fugg :DDDDDDDDDD
>>16149516that if he'd had control over his own company's finances ULA would've been the first to master orbital refueling and they'd still be competitive
>>16149516>we're fucked>i'll have to ride this company all the way to the bottom>hopefully i'm dead by then
>>16149516bezos buying his company isnt it?
>>16149516>I love when rogget expend!
>>16149546the 30 launch old booster>im gonna booooost>im gonna reyooooooose
https://twitter.com/C_Bass3d/status/1784220959689372069Why does this flag trigger people?
>>16149572you put af as the filename like we wouldnt notice. gtfo groyper /pol/ retard.
>>16149516Howdy partner!
>>16148996I knew this was going to happen (FAA is extremely crusty and rude) simply because launch and re-entry permitting were going to swallow the FAA aliveLeave it to a politician to do the thing because it is a step up in his career
>>16149516>I had my marketing team come up with some insane nonsense about how many times Spacex would have to reuse a booster for it to be economical, and they surpassed even that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA006oFAf_8
>>16149585What point are you making?
>>16149481
>>16149452>The ISS one is the standard because it works and everyone uses it.In the scheme of a mission a few hours to open the door doesn't matter but do they really have to be that slow?
>>16149603I'm pretty sure they don't, it's just paranoia since the ISS is completely irreplaceable if something goes wrong.
>>16149572>>16149580What?
>>16149603Airlock cycling times really depend on the size of your vaccuum pump and how much atmosphere you are willing to lose. I'm sure the ISS has some shitty tiny pump that cost 999999999 dollars built by Raytheon and they can't afford to lose any atmosphere at all. Cycle times could absolutely be sped up a lot with heavier duty pumps and a willingness to lose a few grams of atmosphere.
>>16149620Mentally ill individual who forgot to take their daily medication is seeing hidden messages in the filenames.
>>16149516https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1784398108966941093lol
>>16149589>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA006oFAf_8ula btfo again
>>1614970096& of ULAs missions between 2000-2009 could have been launched with Falcon 9only 3 launches out of 116 launches in total would need another rocket (Falcon Heavy for example)
Shocking news out of NASA today: FH CAN'T launch Gateway (because of structural reasons it can't even lift 20t to LEO)What a joke!
>>16148644Some of Saturn
>>16148769https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206019654189435
>>16149761https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206027107492057
>>16149589good video, and nice voice
>>16149764
>>16149753adding some thicker stringers is just beyond SpaceX capabilities
>>16149784it's absolutely not a surprise to anyone in the industry why the NRO has never selected SpaceX to launch its KH-11s, even though it should technically be within F9's capabilities
>>16149786or those selections were made such a long time ago that FH didn't exist at that point
>>16149753So? NASA can just use their own rocket to launch it.Oh wait.
There's something so unscientific about the idea that the Gondwana supercontinent existed but I can't pin it down.
>>16149812Mars used to have one super big continent too though. One half of the planet was ocean the other water.
>>16149390Don't forget the other moons like Europa who rip and tear the insides of Io. Orbital resonance and the like.
>>16149390the 3 new Venus missions will confirm or reject this hypothesis.
>>16149812>>16149842What a dumb way to arrange your world's surface, you just wind up with big lame deserts and horizon-to-horizon oceans.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1784462071205159144You can smell the EU seething about SpaceX. Reminds me of the first year of Biden admin days
>>16149855yeah everybody is seething pretty muchULA, the EU, Rocketlab
>>16149851Agree. But what I'm trying to say is it's kinda weird how it used to be just one big continent that decided to spread out. From a cosmological principle perspective it seems unlikely. Mars also used to be like that back when it had water. See pic related
>>16149855>Reminds me of the first year of Biden admin dayswhy
>>16149860You might be new here but few years ago, the incoming Biden's NASA admin couldn't say the word "SpaceX" for a full year or so.
>>16147683>nailedThe vibrations nailed the payload too.
What's the FH issue everyone's dooming about. I remember 2 years ago we were saying how FH could completely replace SLS.
Staging successful >>16149899>>16149899>>16149899>>16149899>>16149899>>16149899>>16149899>>16149899
>>16149855He can't keep getting away with this!
>>16148636It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.
>>16148657He says you have to go back. He's going to build a wall and he's going to make you pay for it. Furthermore he claims that somebody's doing the raping.
>>16149410bottom jejlook at how often sleepy joe's handlers changed the head of the FAAthen look at the skin tones and early life section, and check out how many were literally in bed with Democrat politicians
>>16149481Just EVA.
>>16149313Galileo has nothing to do with starshield/starlink. It's just the euro version of a GPS sat. That said, GPS sats still contain classified tech, so Galileo might too.
>>16148996Fucking finally.
