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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjVKG23hDUI

What is Progressive Rock?
>https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition

Good albums to start with?
>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.png

Obscure prog gems
>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/

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>shitty anglican church-funded psychedelic pop starts playing
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Are these threads dying off again?
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>>121724299
It's very slow when there's no engaging conversation driving the traffic. This general can't survive on shitposts alone.
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more avant-garde prog similar to the mothers during their late period? stuff like charles ives, the processional march part of dwarf nebula, cruisin for burgers...
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>>121724942
Have you tried Red Krayola?

https://youtu.be/NWZ13jeVyY8
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argie here, we had some good prog bands, dont know if you know this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72_P82ICEPg
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Neat, just finding out that this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQLy028YZxk
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>>121727196
Not prog
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>>121726770
>177 views
where the hell do you even find stuff like this?
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>>121727368
Weidorje's not exactly obscure in the world of zeuhl but most of the time I often just look for random obscure releases using RYM's search and look for them on a tracker to torrent or youtube, you find a lot of cool shit that way without being influenced by reviews, scores or popularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGH_XPyzZE
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i like pendragon
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>>121722517
What the Fripp?
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>blung blung blung bling bling blung bling; blung blung bling blung bling bling blung
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>>121727839
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>>121727839
there was an edit where he had the booba eyes
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6 BILLION ANTS
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>>121724299
seems that way
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my god i listened to so much good prog today and it made me sad because i realised ill never have the time to drink it all
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>>121724299
i'm too busy gooning to toyah's titties
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>progressive country
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what's the consensus?
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>>121732086
Clockwork Angels has higher highs but Snakes & Arrows is the overall more consistent album.
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>>121732086
moderately entertaining album. i generally don't skip it when it comes up on shuffle. one of their best post-80s albums.
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>>121732086
I like Malignant Narcissism, but none of the other tracks were particularly memorable for me.
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>>121734078
Far Cry is very memorable to me
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What are some /prog/-worthy hip-hop albums, /prog/?
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yes? more like no
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That post in the last thread about Magma's/Vander's music being scary for dogs might have some truth to it because this came on on my playlist and my dog was fucking terrified with her hackles were risen the entire drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWH0pjRrDWY
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>>121735708
BUTTERFLY BALISTIC SEAX SURVIVAL BUTCHER KUKRI TO TRENCH HOMICIDAL
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sad news, tonybros
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>>121735708
>>121736464
not prog, fuck off
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>>121736635
I mean it was always doomed with a name like Bankstatement
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>>121735708
The only prog hiphop albums are the ones that steal from prog songs and talk over them. In which case, why not just listen to the original tracks?
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>>121736668
>Zach Hill
>not prog
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>>121735708
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>>121737747
Math rock, though even mentioning that seems redundant given its prog roots
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>>121738183
Good shit, thanks anon
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>>121732086
I didn't complete this album because I feel it's just riff after riff after riff for me.
I've had my fair share of criticism when it comes to synth-era Rush but going back to guitar-driven sound only to churn out songs that are just collection of guitar riffs without strong melodies behind them feels like a mistake.
tbf though they're in their mid 50s by this time so maybe they just recorded this album for funsies.

For additional notes, there used to be the documentary of making this album in youtube a couple of years ago but seemed it got deleted (although now that I just googled it, apparently you could find someone uploading it on facebook) and man, the friendship, even after being together for more than 30 years, was still very strong. They legit had a great time recording that album even though I thought this album is one of their worst records.
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>>121736635
seems Banks was hurting deep inside that Collins ended up becoming one of the most defining musician of the 80s and had great success of doing OSTs for multiple famous movies, also Rutherford was moderately successful with his The Mechanics effort, while Banks just didn't do anything of note for his solo effort so now he just churned out orchestra albums only few people listened.
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>>121735708
I dunno, R. Kelly's Trapped In the Closet ?
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>>121740532
>the friendship, even after being together for more than 30 years, was still very strong.
Rush is one of those bands where there's a singular definitive lineup and it just wouldn't feel right if even one member leaves for whatever reason. (I know their self-titled didn't have Peart, but not like anyone remembers a single song off that album that isn't Working Man)
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>>121743248
Not a bad choice. The music in that is progressive in some way, as funny as it sounds
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>>121744913
are there any other bands that put out at least three albums that have a static lineup? it seems like prog is an orgy of members coming and going.
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>>121748192
if you count BJH as prog
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>>121748192
Off the top of my head I honestly can't think of another long-running prog rock band that's never had a lineup change since their first album, but in prog metal there's Mastodon and Gojira. Outside of prog there's Radiohead and obviously the Beatles.
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>>121748192
>>121748293
Yeah prog metal doesn't seem to be effected by line-up changes that much.

There's also Dir En Grey, formed in 1997, and still active without a single line-up change which is incredible considering how much their sound changed from being a shitty anime nu-metal band to being an avant-garde/progressive meteal band.
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Could this be done justice live if Bob got three of his slave guitarists to play in perfect synchronicity with him?
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Listen to Supertramp's debut
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Thinking Plague -- my current fav. I recommend the following very strong albums of theirs: In This Life, In Extremis, A History of Madness, Decline and Fall.

https://thinkingplague.bandcamp.com/album/in-this-life
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/in-extremis
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-history-of-madness
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/decline-and-fall-2

torrent for discography:
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5094757
(floppy disk logo on bottom right to download: Cкaчaть .torrent 30 KB)
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>>121751401
Dude, find a new album to be obsessed about
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>>121752530
Listen to Banco's debut
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>>121752582
listen to Chinese Pink Floyd instead (with added advertisement)
https://suno.com/song/341bc0fd-85d9-44ff-99b9-33c177f83884
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>>121752626
The Wall isn't a Pink Floyd album desu
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the web might have the most annoying vocals of all time
it makes close to the edge jon anderson seem like a bath on the ears
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>>121727839
Would.
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>>121735708
clouddead is pretty much prog hip-hop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_Ca_YH_mw

also subtle had a good concept album that i'd consider progressive hip hop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8-_LDC_uKI
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anyone got some apocalyptic music? Putin just said he will bomb UK
https://suno.com/song/8007388f-999b-4906-a55d-1e4f2fe6841a
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>>121752686
If you want to be really anal then any Pink Floyd album past WYWH isn't a Pink Floyd album
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>>121752848
wywh is not a pink floyd album, but animals is and so is obscured by clouds (but not ahm)
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>>121752847
https://suno.com/song/06335a5f-608c-4e60-94ab-f0252522e590
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>>121752847
well I just want to say to everyone here it's been a true pleasure. anyway not /prog/ but I've been listening to Blut Aus Nord's Cosmosophy album all day and it seems decently fitting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OHwuBdaOCY
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>>121752847
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PDDcva1Qy48
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>>121748242
>Barclay James Harvest featuring Les Holroyd
>In January 2005, BJHFLH toured with Asia featuring John Payne as support, returning the favour on four UK shows in March of the same year.
Heh
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>>121748192
Marillion's lineup has remained stable since 1988 (when Hogarth joined)
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Whhat are the best Frippertronics/Soundscapes album? Just picked up Washington Square Church and That Which Passes
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>>121757404
this is the song that does it for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHkzZbRZMrc
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HAPPY 51ST MEKANIK DESTRUKTIW KOMMANDOH!!!!!!!
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Acknowledge Geinoh Yamashirogumi
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>>121758476
Fun fact that everyone probably already knows: Magma and Pink Floyd were planned to be in a failed 1970's Dune movie adaptation. Magma was intended to be the music for the Harkonnens while Floyd was intended to be the music for the Atreides. H.R. Giger was also involved in the adaptation and given that Giger ended up doing the album art for Attahk, it's quite likely that the band and him met through this failed project.
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>>121760019
Also, a French band named Dün released a Dune-themed concept album (Eros) and immediately vanished afterwards. While there's no confirmation of this, they may or may not actually be Magma secretly releasing the work they did for the movie under another name.
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>>121727752
Me too brother
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7QUHh9LN1uA
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>>121731961
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ykG9l2-d33s
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>>121760107
>While there's no confirmation of this, they may or may not actually be Magma secretly releasing the work they did for the movie under another name
Did you just make this shit up? I've never heard this "theory" before now and all of the members of Dun are named and are real people, they're not affiliated with Magma nor do they even sound like Magma
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>>121752530
sounds like somebody needs to try again
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>>121752847
Music for the end times, Unicorn Porn/Orchestre de la Fin du Monde;
https://youtu.be/KNjAzoLwNVA
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>>121748192
Genesis from 1971–74 and 1978–91
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>>121762333
Yeah it's just some crackpot theory that I had once.
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>>121762597
>impossible to google bands
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>>121750907
It's hypothetically possible, there are definitely people out there who can do it, and who would be terribly eager for the opportunity, There's actually a bigger problem to be found in not having the quirks and intangible qualities of Wetton and Bruford. And you'd be missing the fucked up miracle garbage cymbal that carries more weight than you'd expect.
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>>121762597
>359 views
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>>121764332
How did you feel about the versions of those songs done by the 3 drummer lineup? They did every song except providence
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>>121763040
>>121764577
U mad? The musics good, who cares if its obscure as hell?
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>>121764888
Checked.

Those versions are what really pointed out that there's just something missing when the set up isn't exactly the same. Even the official Archive upload of that version of One More Red Nightmare still blends the percussion from the album version back in.

>>121764973
I'm not mad, it's actually reasonably good, if obviously derivative, which you can't really avoid at this point if you're going out of your way to replicate the prog sound. The low view count and weird name just make it seem like it's your project or a friend's that you've been sitting on for a decade hoping you'll be vindicated, because no one's coming across it naturally at this point. If it isn't, I apologize and would actually like to know how you did find it.
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i am utterly obsessed with this fucking sound. I love the mending of psychedelia and prog that comes with the Hammond Organ. please send me some more of this. i'm aiming for more proggy than Deep Purple but more psychedelic than VDGG
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>>121765129
Uhh... have you tried Hawkwind?
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>>121765244
yeah i kinda liked their live album space ritual... besides that it didn't stir any emotions in me. They sound more like Gong than what i'm describing
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>>121765028
Its been posted on /mu/ on and off for 10 years, recently been posted more frequently in the prog generals. I found it on progarchives, its pretty cool what weirdness you find when you are bored and digging around. Why is a low view count a filter? They are obviously nobodies. I just thought it was cool.
Im curious though, what you find derivative about it? One of the things I like about it is that its not obvious what the influences are. I feel like you gotta be well listened outside of prog to hear who they are copying.
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>>121765559
It kind of sounds to me like it's essentially all the stereotypical prog instrumentation being played by musicians who aren't terribly familiar with much of the prog genre outside of the biggest successes. There are points where it sounds like the instrument voices aren't constructing a cohesive sound, but playing their own pieces over each other. The guitar repeats the same conventional figures verbatim, without introducing interest. The parts that get the flanger effect don't seem to really benefit from it. It feels like a kind of skeuomorph that doesn't really have any intent behind it. There are synth effects that feel like they were just dropped in without any relationship to the patterns playing over them. If I really had to put it succinctly, it sounds like an act that was playing some more conventional, more recent subgenre of rock and they decided to try composing and playing something that could set them apart and credit them with revitalizing interest in a mostly deprecated genre. It's certainly not bad, what is there is definitely worthy of more exposure than it got over the last decade. I did really like the steel drum-adjacent synth sound, that feels pretty novel to me in this context, and the timbre of the drums does feel like it hits a middle ground between classic prog and heavier modern styles of rock, which is interesting in its own right. It's something that deserved to be built on rather than abandoned, because it does have unique merit which could have turned into a distinctive style.
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i remembered 21st century schizoid man today :)
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>>121765920
I think that might be fair, I always thought the 5/4 meter and polychords were an attempt at copying bebop and modal jazz. The rest of the record is pretty interesting IMO. I think youre right in saying its probably less prog, than something else, psych-rock, post-rock mebbe, but I can hear a bit of the Yes/KC influence in there.
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Fripp & Sylvian - The First Day
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>>121764973
>>121764577
>>121762597
Scores on Wikipedia are low, is it any good?
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>>121765129
Listen to Procol Harum
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>>121766964
I don't really get why people complain so much about other people looking up the broad reception of a given album or whatever, then asking whether or not that's reflected in a more dedicated audience with different tastes to the mainstream. There's nothing wrong with doing that.
Why does it get treated like some kind of stereotypical dipshit question? Is it really down to "Listen to it yourself and come to your own conclusion?" What if there's only one good track on the album, but it's really good?
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>>121766964
Its on wikipedia? Progarchives gave 4/5 stars, and it has a 3.5 rating on RYM. I think its pretty great DESU, 4/5. Its ahead of its time a bit, explorative, and well produced. Alot of whats going on in it that I think someone might take issue with is intentional complex harmonies/counter melodies and rhythmic syncopations. Maybe its not abrasive enough? Not sure. Its got a VERY strong jazz influence, which is maybe to its detriment for a wider audience, but I thought it was honest, and managed to rectify that influence with other rock and DIY influences fairly well. If anything, I'd agree with the other anon that its a shame they didnt really do anything else or promote it very well. Its an interesting starting point.
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>>121767065
Meh. I think tastemakers are annoying, but I understand that most people have pretty narrow preferences for texture and harmony. Generally, Ill give most things a few chances to give me something Im interested in.
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>>121767329
There are only three ratings and one review on Progarchives, and five on RYM. That's hardly enough to consider properly representative.
And personally, I feel that what you're calling "Jazz influence and complex harmonies" is just layering instrumental parts on top of each other at the same volume, not even separated by panning, without any real sense for how they connect. Most of the great Prog tracks that intentionally create that kind of feeling still have a closely considered underlying structure, which I don't feel is present in the track, it's one of the biggest weaknesses and the biggest indication that suggests it was an imitation of Prog rather than an iteration upon the concept.
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>>121767556
Maybe thats just the youtube version? I dunno, I downloaded it off bandcamp, and it sounds pretty good to me, I hear plenty of stuff panned around. Theres also a whole string section and horn section building those swells, and I happen to enjoy the texture a lot.
Picrel came with the download package.
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>>121765129
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>>121765129
Van der Graaf Generator is a trust fund band.
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>>121769475
Ok.
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>>121767757
I think what >>121767556 is saying, is that the mixing isnt exactly spot on for the style. It doesnt really take advantage of some of the layering going on. Though, I think if its using #9, half-dim7, and quartal harmonies, its certainly got some jazz influence.
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>>121764973
Why would I be mad? I just made a joke about unicorn porn. Why so defensive?
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>>121767026
I like the debut, can't stand shine on or salty dog.
>>121767065
we only really complain if it's wikipedia
>>121767924
I tried multiple times and it never clicked, but i've been meaning to try again cause i found out that the space shanty album cover was done by the same guy who made picrel's cover. I'll listen to it again today, hopefully i get it
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>>121772198
>I like the debut, can't stand shine on or salty dog
You might like this one
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kino
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Ween is prog
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bump
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>>121773211
>Ween is prog
When did this become a humor thread?
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>>121775152
Always has been
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qTFHLrB8ebQ
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Who up fictionalizing they sports
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>>121765129
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bNE78JD7rl4
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Underrated
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>>121776711
Yes
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>>121776647
yeah, this is closer to what i'm talking about
Although i prefer ars longa vita brevis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1isxmGn79Kc
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>>121765129
https://youtu.be/SrNGPpa2QRM
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>>121748242
Yes, BJH was one of the great recommendations from when I subscribed to Prog Magazine.
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The final stage of being a prog rock fan is exclusively listening to nightcore remixes of 70s prog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Umho-zZWn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rlt7C88i8
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>>121776820
Yes
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Charles Mingus deserves some shout in /prog/. Been binge listening to his albums and his arrangement is insanely complicated.
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PROG LIVES
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>>121779058
I really like the part in Black Saint and the Sinner Lady where it sounds middle eastern, you know the one
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>>121778974
CAN TELL YOUR MOMMA
SHE'D ONLY TELL YA
THATTTTTTTTTT SHE TOLD YOU SOOOOOOO
THE LIFE YOU'RE LEADING
SHE WON'T BELIEVE
THE RICHES OF LIFEEEEEEEEEEE
WE ALLLLLLLL KNNOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!
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>The Sleeper

holy shit
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>>121727839
Who is that bitch!?
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>>121767065
>>121767329
>>121767556
>>121767757
>>121762597
>not even the best Unicorn Porn
https://youtu.be/-HG2EQVshZU

I dont think RYM is a great gauge for whether or not something is actually good. That site is overrun with fashionistas, and Im sort of surprised any of their music got any sort of attention at all, let alone 3rd party submitted into RYM or Progarchives.
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>>121751401
started listening to this, it sounds like someone did a very shitty copy of Simon and Garfunkel
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>>121778974
i didn't know that cover came in color.
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>>121780676
Breakfast in America is their best album, the others are... not...
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>>121778974
AND THE TIME IS NOW AND ITS RIGHT FOR ME
i fucking love early yes. so much. Self titled Time and a Word The Yes Album all of them make me so happy
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>>121780979
I just listened to their first album all the way through Close To The Edge, it's all good
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based Yes fan around here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=886Wxionims
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It's insane how every Prog rock album in the 70s regardless of the fame is an instant classic

It would be cool if i knew some more melodic Prog bands that were essentially not like Gentle giants and Genesis but more melodic
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>>121780187
That’s his wife Toyah
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Last bump before I have to catch a flight. Pray for my safety bros.
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>>121781886
Its not a Boeing 737 max, right?
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>>121782355
They don’t use the Max for cross country flights right? Heh…
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>>121782439
No they don't. You'll definitely be fine. It's actually way more likely to be an Airbus than a Boeing of any kind. They've pretty much lost all the short and medium distance flights and optimized into only the longest ones, even for their smaller planes.
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What do we think of this one /prog/
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>>121782602
Shit forgor image I’m toasted
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>>121782626
I dunno, what is it? Spoon feed me anon, I need you to babybird me new moosic.
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>>121782665
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6arBGV1yw3l-RYqGk95x47qYVVeZpAT2&si=O7lwXB_Gbm_-JBV6
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>>121782665
what do you mean "what is it" tourist? it's obviously the classic prog album '3', everyone's heard that one
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>>121782700
OH SHIT! THAT RECORD.
Yeah, Ive totally heard it and I think its like maybe a 6.314 out of 4 stars, makes my dick hard. Sorry, please dont hurt me proglord!
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>>121782602
>>121782626
Its pretty good, its got those yes vibes.
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>>121781886
Obligatory
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cLoQADJnGr4
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>>121778572
>zeuhl
>nightcore
>wan piss
What an absurd intersection. I feel like some streams that shouldn't be crossed have crossed.
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>>121783344
You NEVER cross streams.
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>>121782626
I actually know them anon, the end is begun is a pretty good album
Their homonym album isn't as good but it's very nostalgic
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>>121778572
>nightcore magma
Nigga that's just prog salsa
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>>121783543
Wait no it's called wake pig, I'm a retard
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>>121783563
Nah, thats TMV. FtM is the one true GOAT.
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¡No hay nada mejor que una nena de goma!
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>>121783485
Is Dan a Magma fan?
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>>121781651
I know that.
Why is she in his house?
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>>121758519
utterly insane album. love it.
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>>121765129
the psych/organ factor is way stronger on Caravan's debut than the one on your pic though
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>>121784566
you're right... and it's much better too
here is a better chart
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>>121765129
https://youtu.be/Kj81tfIY1u8
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>>121765129
https://youtu.be/MRLP7dDszVM
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>>121784069
I have no idea.
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>>121765129
https://youtu.be/EHvpm5Z_TrY
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>>121785746
Holy shit I am going to have to download this later
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it was fucking helter skelter
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>>121781886
I have to get mildly drunk before every flight. god I hate it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XILeGFrjPqk
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>>121779058
what on earth does mingus have to do with prog
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This is pretty fucking good for neo-prog hot damn.
>>121776711
I had the worst panic attack of my life while listening to Sweetness and now i get all nauseous and sweaty whenever i listen to that album.
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>>121788990
>I had the worst panic attack of my life while listening to Sweetness and now i get all nauseous and sweaty whenever i listen to that album.
Bad trip?
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>>121783344
I'm pretty sure it's just a shitpost, there's an entire list of shitpost nightcore like john coltrane """nightcore""" or depressive suicidal black metal nightcore
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>>121789102
>nightcore
Not a fucking clue what that is even supposed to mean. Just some random anime shyte.
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>>121789125
some shitty mid-2000s remix genre which was just speeding up songs and increasing the pitch and slapping some anime girl image you found on google on top of it
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>>121789102
>john coltrane nightcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8spreoaj_E
wow this is fucking cursed. i thought it was gonna be slowed + reverb but it's more like the opposite
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I'm listening to King Crimson again.
I'm getting sad about the future again.
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>>121789011
no i'm straight laced to fuck kek, just mentally ill.
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>>121789896
The future... bites
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>>121789304
Sounds cool
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>>121790841
>tf2 of boards
fuck... why does it hurt reading that
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>>121777570
>>121785491
>>121785636
thank you guys, i listened to a little of these and it was all great
>>121785746
i'm not sure about this one yet, but it wasn't bad. i'll give them all a proper listen in due time. /prog/ never disappoints
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>>121788352
He is a huge influence on prog
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SIX BILLION ANTS
CRAWLING ON A PLATE
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bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8UW5RQ7l0
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>>121792546
if "prog" means gentle giant and king crimson then sure
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>>121793280
>if "prog" means gentle giant and king crimson
wdhmbt?
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>>121793324
i'm saying i dont hear any mingus influence in any prog except for two bands. but im open to suggestions to change my mind.
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>>121792654
NONE OF THEM GIVE BACK
AS MUCH AS THEY TAKE
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>>121793711
i hate the nico tranny so much, bros. at least his mania his also hilarious at times
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>>121793798
>>121792654
Holy shit... is 90s crimson actually good? have I been lying to myself this whole time?
https://youtu.be/L0zbrEJorr4?si=kVesRv4erCSNhnuo
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you vill listen to thrak...
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>>121794786
90s crimson is good. one time is one of my favorite kc songs. there are a few stinkers, but usually it's the lyrics that are cringe-inducing. for intsance, the verse in 'happy with what you have to be happy with' is utterly phoned in boomer garbage, but the chorus is epic.
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TCOL > Thrak > Power
and you're not chaning my mind
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>>121735708
Travis Scott’s latest album began with a Gentle Giant sample for some reason
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Ż-FŪŇĶ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOEviwyn4Oo
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>>121795051
i do listen to thrak. post-80s crimson is much better than beat or ToaPP
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Today I listened Henry Cow - Legend for the first time, noice.
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>>121801439
>legend
>leg end
>picture of a sock
BRAVO
I
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C
E
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>>121729793
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>>121801245
I think you are insane and should be permanently locked up
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I don't like electronic sounds.
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>>121803573
Unless you're listening on some kind of horn amplified gramophone or something, they're all electronic sounds.
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>>121803707
electrical =/= electronic
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>>121804952
"Electronic" sounds are either pure waveforms or samples with waveform based decay, or they're pure samples. A digital audio file is just a single long sample, or if you want to get more technical about it, a bunch of tiny samples, all queued up to play in sequence. If you put a vinyl record on a modern player, the waveforms embedded in the disc are quantized and amplified before they get played.
You could also say that almost no sounds are electronic, because they're converted into pressure waves by the speaker. It's a pointless statement to make.
When you say
>I don't like electronic sounds
What does that actually mean?
Waveform Synthesizers? probably. I assume that's what you meant. But does it also mean Mellotron and Hammond Organ, among others? If it doesn't, that would be an important distinction to actually make it possible to understand your taste. Maybe it even extends to processing effects like reverb, distortion, flanger, reversed playback. Does it extend to electric guitar and bass? There are electronic components involved with all of that, and their
audible qualities are all derived from the way those components interact, and their places in the chain. Prog as a genre is defined by the aggressive and inventive choices musicians made as these technologies were made available and experimented with, this isn't the thread to make such a broad statement, to the point that it doesn't even make sense.
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>>121804952
All sounds that you hear with your ears is sent to the brain, which processes information through electrical signals. Ergo, all sounds and therefore all music is electric.
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>>121805188
i'm not that same anon
>>121805260
>equivocation fallacy
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>>121805381
There's no fallacy here, all I'm saying is that it's retarded and pointless to be so excessively general about a concept which is literally unavoidable within the topic of the thread. There's something more specific you actually meant and there's probably a good discussion to be had or some recommendations you could get that might suit your tastes better, or even change your mind, so you had no reason not to have said what you actually wanted to say.
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>>121805260
>the human body is 60% water
>ergo, drinking a glass of water is cannibalism
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>>121805381
I was just shitposting, I thought it'd be obvious.
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>>121805586
nah. all anon meant was that he didnt like electronic instrumentation, but progfags are notoriously pedantic, nitpicky autists and tried to come off smart in the process, failing.
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>>121805634
What prog exists that doesn't have at least one form of electronic instrumentation? It's fine if you don't like it, I'm not saying you have to. But why post that in a thread about a genre which is partially defined by the presence of what you claim you don't like? Just to derail the thread slightly? I get that that's par for the course, it is 4chan after all, but we're just trying to have a discussion about the wiggidy woogidy music made by old narcissists. We're going to assume you're here because you also like it or are interested in learning more about it. I have no way of knowing whether something like that is a shitpost, an ESL not having the right word, or a genuine musical neophyte with no familiarity with terminology, all of which are OK. I'm just trying to help on the assumption it's either one of the other two. I wasn't nitpicking or being pedantic or trying to present myself as some big intellectual authority on music, I'll be honest, I have no sense for music theory or notation and my taste is entirely based on what I think sounds interesting.
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>>121767329
Your description made me check it out but I can safely say now that calling it the jazz influence "VERY strong" was a massive overstatement, though it was pretty good though.
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>>121805772
i'm not >>121803573
but if i was i would assume he just meant synthesizers which admittedly haven't aged well and sounds incredibly cheesy. he probably just prefers prog that sticks to or at least prioritizes electric guitars as opposed to electronic keyboards. i dont see what's so "derailing" about that, i've bitched about most prog singers sucking absolute donkey cock compared to most mainstream singers. it's entirely on topic.
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>>121805826
I admitted he probably meant early waveform synthesizers, (which I think don't deserve to be dismissed as "cheesy" as a whole) the point of asking for more clarity was to initiate a discussion about what in particular he doesn't like so we can share alternatives and maybe even redeeming examples to possibly refine that opinion.
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>>121805885
maybe when you're farther away from puberty you'll realize not every comment needs to be a dissected frog on a high school lab table
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lots of retards ITT today.
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>>121807008
>today
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I love listening to prog :)
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>>121807290
you have to specify or this constitutes derailing
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after falling into jazz's pitfall, any prog music sounds plain
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>>121807696
go back
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>>121807839
you have to specify or this constitutes derailing
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>>121807895
to leddit
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>>121808087
>mentioning reddit
derailing
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holy shit Genesis did Invisible Touch? I thought that was a Phil Collins solo song
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jazzfags are fucking insufferable
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jazzfags are fucking based
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i'm pretty neutral on jazzfags
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jazzfags find me fucking insufferable
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not sure if jazz or prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ZRTzEgM-I
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>>121805188
>>121805772
Relax, I just meant that I only like prog rock with real instruments.
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>>121794786
Listen to Heavy Construkction
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>>121802278
Prog for this feel?
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>>121803573
Definitely a low point in George's career, not sure if prog tho
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>>121812795
“beep boop bleep” —George Harrison, 1969
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Are the last 2 gentle giant albums worth checking out or did they sell out too hard
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>>121767065
It's for filthy casuals. I do it too, everyone does it, there's nothing inherently wrong with it - most of us are filthy casuals in most arenas - but as a fan of prog rock, I know incredibly off base it can be. And it's not that "there's a dedicated audience with different tastes", it's that the mainstream consensus is wrong, because it's mostly a bunch of filthy casuals repeating received wisdom about music they've never personally listened to (I've done this also, it's pretty fun). The problem with the RYM/Wikipedia consensus is that it's frequently dumb and wrong because the broader listening public are filthy casuals with execrable taste and exotic brain parasites and their swinish appraisals of pearls are worth less than nothing.

Why yes I've been a Rush fan for 40 years, what gave it away?
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Is this prog? It kinda reminds me of Ashra.
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When does Yes stop being a good band? I've listened to all of their albums through Drama and they're all great
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>>121814408
Going for the One - Tormado are a big drop in quality. Drama is actually their last really good album after that is either pop rock or really meh.
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>>121813591
Prog disco?
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>>121814408
Yes albums are bad because you can easily overlisten to them (except two).
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>>121815230
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RwPflNGGin8
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>>121815336
>you can easily overlisten to them (except two).
Is one of them Revelator and the other Close to the Edge?
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>>121815470
Yes. If I never heard another song from Fragile or The Yes Album, I'd be perfectly fine.
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>>121815116
Tornado is definitely a drop but Going for The One is underrated, the only one of the 70s era album I'd call a dud is Tales From The Topographic Oceans, split that into two sperate albums and it's fine
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>>121815116
Going for the One is fucking classic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGRYwbSpD9o
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>>121722451
I don’t visit this board often I’m actually shocked there’s a prog thread. Keep shredding in unison with keyboards in odd time signatures brothers
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>>121814408
The Ladder is their last listenable album, although if you admit that you also enjoy Fly From Here, then I'll understand since it's pretty nice as well IF you're talking about the version that had Trevor Horn in it.
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>>121815428
I only like their Undertow song
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I see you're enjoying those King Crimson tracks on your personal digital device there, Anon
You DID purchase them from an authorized vendor, yes?
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>>121818483
I'm only speaking with Adrian, sorry...
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>>121818613
He's also under DGM.
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Providence is underrated and I wish they had include the Cross/Fripp jam at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h00am1BAD4
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>>121725958
We've actually had some posters who talk about argie prog, but it's always Charly's bands. Once in a while we could mention Spinetta too: https://youtu.be/mXyamTEFa6M?si=FmaMqV5S8fy8edTP
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>>121753051
How the fuck is WYWH not Pink Floyd?
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>>121815566
Too bad motherfucker, here's another session of Starship Trooper.
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>>121821662
i don't like it, therefore it's not pink floyd
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>>121820924
It fits better with Starless the way they did it. They thankfully added the complete improv as bonus track.
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>>121823612
this nigga gets it
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>>121815116
Going is pretty decent and a lot better than Tomato Tornado or whatever the fuck it's called, but it still gets brutally mogged by Drama. It's definitely worth listening to, but only if you curb expectations properly.
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THRAK drum production is kino
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>>121815230
>Prog disco
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_86Fu42yfDo
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>>121815230
>Prog disco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L27OSAp6lOE
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>prog metal disco
6:08
https://youtu.be/CpGbcxq4SnQ?t=368
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>>121825892
Magma's late 70s/early 80s period before they transitioned entirely into a pop band was so goofy
literally who else did a 20 minute prog rock disco epic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crzaVs6wLHQ
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>>121815230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nnf2j7exvg
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>>121812947
Giant for a Day is their worst. Civilian is the best of their last three albums and is honestly a good listen because the band fully commits to pop rock (whereas with The Missing Piece and Giant for a Day they try to do pop rock but with some prog and it just sounds like a mess).
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>>121815230
Does this count
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ3kV3Icm28
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>>121821934
Fair enough.
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>>121805789
I dont think its an overstatement. Theres just no horn solos. Everything else, with the exception of the Waltz uses standard jazz structures. Theres a lota of modal improvising it seems like.
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>>121830247
no there isn't
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>>121813039
Rush fucking rocks. P4k/RS types always shit talk them, but they sure didnt have a problem filling up arenas or touring sustainably.
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>>121830283
Then whats going on? Its certainly not aimless noodling.
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I am
you are
we are
>crazy
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>>121831110
wtf is this real
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Acknowledge Kansas
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>>121832125
Yeah man I love Carry On My Wayward Sun and Dust in the Wind!
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>>121828281
I already listened to missing piece and was pretty ok with it. It does feel kinda lacking compared to everything before though. So giant for a day is just that but worse?
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>>121832125
ok
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>>121832125
What about them are we acknowledging? Not prog.
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>>121832125
2 hit wonder

>>121832678
Retard
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what about Sugarloaf?
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>>121831110
Gong never gets mentioned enough around here. For some reason they never come up on shuffle. I should listen to (You) right now. Thanks for the idea.
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SKIBIDI ANTS
CRAWLING ON A PLATE
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>>121832125
Hi Kansas!
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>>121781886
And tomorrow morning I return home. This thread lasted my entire trip.
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>peak prog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0B7Z3JERdk
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>>121837537
This is
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Thanks for the rec on this a few threads back
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>>121836438
>This thread lasted my entire trip.
Meanwhile there's EIGHT kpop generals on the catalog, step it up /prog/.
Seriously though the state of this board is absolutely dire.
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folk prog
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>>121836438
I just realized I posted in this thread almost a week ago. Crazy
>>121727839
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>>121841964
>eight consecutive kpop gens in the catalog
I hate bugposters so much bros…
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>>121844206
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UsJ_lzhiHb0
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>>121844086
peaked with comus?
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It's so fucking good, do they have any other albums as good as this?
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>>121844352
elo sucks
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>>121844366
I THINK MR BLUE SKY SUCKS
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>>121844372
if your song has been in a marvel movie it's unironically over for your song
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>>121844366
you suck
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>>121844372
It's one of those songs that's only good the first few times you hear it, mostly because it's both extremely repetitive and overstays its welcome, which are both the reasons it endures so much to this day. I imagine it's similar to the process that made most old folk songs into children's rhymes.
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>>121832421
Yeah. There are a couple of songs I liked on Giant for a Day but for the most part it's a worse version of The Missing Piece. Civilian is good, although it is the least prog Gentle Giant album
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>>121834599
checked and (you)pilled
>no cops~ at~ the door~
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>>121844381
ok but what if a marvel movie endorses your music?
https://twitter.com/THEadrianbelew/status/1654945018187247616
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>HONKshoooo
>mimimimimimi~
>HOOOONKShoooo
>mimimimimi~
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>>121850792
>tales from topographic oceans
>album art is a desert
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How did Genesis go from Lamb to Invisible Touch?
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>>121850920
The prog boom went bust and a lot of established bands weren't ready to skimp on their cocaine budgets and alimony payments.
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>>121850920
You dare question Tony?
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>>121850920
Peter and Steve left so Phil wasn’t able to keep Mike and Tony in check by himself
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>>121832125
Song For America was their magnum opus
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>>121760107
>>121762333
I was further confused reading this because I thought Helmut and Richard Pinhas/Dunn was part of the ordeal, being French and into Dune and all that.
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ummagummas studio side is kino and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>121854099
>autistic screeching
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GpWJv7alqQE



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