Joblestia? Canon
>>41054329>headcanonDone
>>41054329Don't care, she's still best Princess
>>41054339...for jobbing
>>41054355>...for jobbingBut enough about Luna
>>41054339...other than her sister
>>41054329All right. YOU LISTEN TO ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW. "Word of God" is not canon. It's never canon, especially if the creator is just shitposting tongue-in-cheek material. If it's not in the show, it's not canon. Simple as.
>>41054364>Jobber confuses mogging for jobbing
>>41054329>Faust's toilet paper scribbles that was thrown in the trash by HasCHADDoneroo. You loseroo.
>>41054339She will outlive you
>>41054414So where was Celestia the whole time?
>>41054526myhouse.wad
>>41054329>losing any time ever = jobbingThis only shows that Celestia really is the most powerful since Nightmare Moon was the only thing able to beat her.>but what about episo-Not canon.
>>41054329Faust really can't stop being the worst world designer ever and sabotaging herself just like her husband. It seems like Rob Renzetti & Paul Rudish were the real brains behind the show.
>>41055692Very true. It's absolutely baffling that she has such a strong following on this board.Her world-building is elementary-school level and often times simply bizarre. Also it's fucking cheap to try fixing such fundamental plot holes like "WHERE THE FUCK WAS CELESTIA??" with some headcanoned twitter posts she probably came up with while taking a dump She gets credit for FIM the same way G.L. gets credit for Star Wars when they both never produced more than the outlineIt's hilarious when faustfags actually go to war here when you point out what a shitshow her work actually was and how later seasons had many redeeming qualities
>>41054526Faust forgot, just like she forgot about Luna for the rest of season one.>"We were meant to rule together, little sister.">never shows up again, not even in the gala
>>41055776>>41055692>>41054414>>41054336You literally SEE Celestia being freed from the sun after NMM is defeated, you retards. It was always canon and apparent, just never explicitly stated. I swear to God, if Faust ever tweeted “Twilight is purple”, you’d idiots would still be going >le headcanon. You’re like the opposite of Faustfags, but even stupider.
>>41055902Post the time stamps on when the happens please
>>41056006https://youtu.be/4_AQAl_C9TE?t=2351
>>41055902She could just as well have flown in from Canterlot from her throne room. There is implications and there's haziness, we have absolutely no reason to believe she was captured.Devising such an important detail AFTERWARDS is lazy and cheap. She could make up whatever she wanted to iron out the mess she made.It would not have taken more than a single line of "I was captured by NMM" to settle this. There is no excuse for that.>implicationsFim has never implied anything. It's the show where characters cry their eyeballs out and still feel the need to verbally announce that they're sadEvery single piece of lore was always explicitly unmistakably spelled out to usFaust's writing was a clusterfuck. Simple as. Even among faustfags I have almost never seen anyone defend S1E2, it's a fever dream fanfic disaster.
>>41055902>if Faust ever tweeted “Twilight is purple”, you’d idiots would still be going >le headcanon.That's a stupid fucking comparison. Twilight is shown as purple in the show, you moron.
>>41056029Celestia is also shown as being freed from the sun in the show, you moron.
>>41055902>>41056016Mmmh yes, but that would contradict The Cutie Re-Mark which explicitly says that NMM banished Celestia to the moon and not to the sun. Why would she do things different in those two timelines?
>>41056047Because the episodes were written by two different people.
>>41056033No, she isn't. She happens to arrive to the scene as the sun appears. Her being "freed" from the sun is your headcanon.
>>41056020>It would not have taken more than a single line of "I was captured by NMM" to settle this. There is no excuse for that.This. Alternatively, show a Mare in the Sun symbol on the sun fading away.>>41056047Celestia's actions without Twilight there would be different which in turn would influence NMM's decisions.
>>41056047>that would contradict The Cutie Re-Mark which explicitly says that NMM banished Celestia to the moon and not to the sun.Haber (understandably) didn't read Faust's twitter post.
>>41056020You see the sun rise and a ball of light float out that becomes Celestia. Are you a baby who needs everything explained to you?
>>41056151No, she doesn't just arrive. You see light come out of the sun and that light becomes Celestia because she was in the sun.
>>41057254Anon... even if we assume she came from the sun nothing suggests she was trapped or freed from it.
>>41056047New content contradicts previous, not the other way around.Why is that so difficult to understand for binge-watchers
>>41055692>>41055776>>41056020What the fuck is with this blatant offboarder raid?Go back to fucking tiktok or wherever you came from.>>41056047>actually can't understand basic causal relationships
>>41058092Faustfag, plz.
>>41058092>Anybody who doesn't venerate S1 writing is an offboarder
Faustchads win again.
>>41058177People who try to tear down S1, early FiM, and Faust have a 100% overlap with people who are offboarders and corporate cocksuckers.It's always done because they're mad that people aren't accepting of the garbage of later seasons and can give actual detailed reasons for precisely why.Notice how the closest that the given criticisms of S1 ever get to actually having any grounding in reason is "Why didn't they explicitly state everything?" It's blatantly ridiculous to anyone who isn't part of the blind late season mob.
>>41058221God Faustniggers are pathetic simps
>>41058221I (and enough others) have written literal essays on why S1 is shit and nobody would ever engageLate season haters on the other hand never amount to anything more than GLIMMERNIGGER or >barbie You are simply a Faust cocksucker and nothing more Also don't you act like there was some deeper picture going on in a children's TV show. Faust is hack is all
>>41058230>>41058242>"no u" and blind rageAs always.
>>41058242>>41058230
>>41055902>Slams hoof on tableShe is LIGHT WISTERIA!
>>41058245>no argument whatsoever
>>41058258Projection doesn't work when everyone can see it by just looking a few posts up.
>>41058221>wait, Nightmare Moon was Luna this whole time?>when I've just read a story about two royal alicorns raising the sun and moon?>and this is apparently an old folk tale that's fallen into semi-obscurity?>or no wait, it's actually an annual festivity called Pony Halloween that everyone celebrates>it blows my mind that the sun-raising alicorn from the story is the sun-raising alicorn that rules our land, with an annual ceremony even>nopony has never made this connection, in neither tongue nor pen>what masterful storytelling, bravo Faust!inb4 "Faust wasn't involved in the first half of Season 2, she absolutely was
>>41058266Faust was demoted to a position with less control after Return of Harmony.>wait, Nightmare Moon was Luna this whole time?>when I've just read a story about two royal alicorns raising the sun and moon?See? There's a legitimate criticism of the writing of season one. Was that really so hard?
>>41058242>Also don't you act like there was some deeper picture going on in a children's TV show
>>41058278Damn, it's not fun to troll when you concede.
>>41058278>There's a legitimate criticism of the writing of season oneIt was all legitimate How about >there's a forest inhabited by actual monsters >let's build our village right next to it >we don't need protection or anything>here's Fluttershy, let's have her live right next to the forest or>one school in ponyville>somehow the CMC have never met regardless>the only ponies without CM but we know their talents right away>have brain-cancer-inducing episode about acquiring their CM but actually not because it would have already wrapped up their storyline instead of stretching it out for 5 seasons and >Celestia, all powerful goddess>never to be seen when needed >here's 2 tickets although I know you have 5 friends>there's a gigantic dragon toasting ponyville, better send my adolescent student and her five ordinary friends instead of laserbeaming it away>"I knew NMM was coming but instead of calling out a national emergency I constructed a convoluted plan dependent on luck"FIM was a kid's show. It was never meant to be inspected closely, it falls completely falls apart if you do.I'm sure nobody in 2010 actually went on to analyse whether the show made sense or not, people enjoyed the moment, this extraordinary strange new meme and a flourishing fandom but now time has passed and the pony fandom is only remnants, what's remained is the show which has not aged all too well I feel like some anons see S1 critique as a direct attack on their fond memories. They are nostalgic, not rational>Faust was demoted to a position with less control after Return of Harmony.She still had influence. Yeah, she didn't have a veto anymore, but for example she wrote most of Luna Eclipsed and honestly I think that episode is pretty horrible The reason she left was that her ideas became increasingly questionableI am convinced the show would have massively stagnated if she was left in charge, after all she only did 1.5 seasons as opposed to the other teams who had to carry on for several more
>>41057828A twitter post contradicts canon.Headcanon contradicts canon.Why is that so difficult to understand for faustards
>>41058326>canonIt's not though.It contradicts earlier canon, therefore it is false and incapable of ever being canon.
>>41058325>FIM was a kid's show. It was never meant to be inspected closely, it falls completely falls apart if you do.>I'm sure nobody in 2010 actually went on to analyse whether the show made sense or not,Imagine being so dumb that a kids' show manages to go over your head like this.You failed to see what it was doing so you concluded that it wasn't doing anything. All you've done is reveal that you have no clue what you're talking about and that you really are just blindly trying to tear it down.
>>41058335>the fanfic I wrote back then is canon, the show didn't follow my canon!
>>41058347>the show itself is now retroactively fanfic because the later show contradicted itI can't imagine all the effort it takes to actively ignore the countless contradictions of your own beliefs. How do you even function when you not only accept but readily defend contradictions like this?
>>41058325>here's Fluttershy, let's have her live right next to the forest It would actually have been really cool, had they given Fluttershy a reason to live on the edge of the Everfree. Maybe her ability to talk to the animals made it not so much of a threat, and she collects valuable information about herbs and stuff? And the Everfree, despite being an existential threat, also hides some secrets that are key to ponykind survival, in a curse and blessing at the same time sort of way?That would explain how she makes her livelihood, too.Of course, that flies in the face of episodes such as the opening two-parter and Stare Master, but there's potential there, and lore-wise it doesn't take a lot of shuffling around to realize it.
>>41058325>It was all legitimate >How about >>there's a forest inhabited by actual monsters >>let's build our village right next to it >>we don't need protection or anything>>here's Fluttershy, let's have her live right next to the forestUh... but Celestia knew that the Tree of Harmony was located in the forest and that's why she gave the land to the Apple family and then tried to groom the families of the founders of Ponyville for hundreds of years to breed potential bearers of the Elements of Harmony for NMM's. So it makes complete sense. Most people say that Twilight was solemnly groomed by Celestia, but no, all of the Mane Six were groomed by her including their parents and more far-reaching ancestors.
>>41058353I know dude, Celestia is an almighty god [headcanon], she is the most unbeatable powerfullest being in existence [more headcanon]! How dare the show contradict those facts [delusions] backed with explicit evidence [zero]!
>>41058369>non-sequitur
>>41058368>all of the Mane Six were groomed by her including their parents and more far-reaching ancestors.I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but making up the wildest delusional headcanons is exactly what faustfags do.
>>41058368>Most people say that Twilight was solemnly groomed by Celestia, but no, all of the Mane Six were groomed by her including their parents and more far-reaching ancestors.Celestia seems to be quite the pedophile.
>>41058415>tree of harmony>faustfag
>>41058325So the logic of the entire show sucks and it's better to not think about it
>>41058369I'm glad I waited until finishing the show before forming any headcanons so that there aren't any conflicts, though I had the advantage of having the whole show available to me to watch when I started. I feel a little bad for those whose enjoyment was ruined by their headcanons getting snuffed out, but that's life, we don't always get what we want.
>>41058899I have the advantage of not caring whether the show makes sense. My response to internal inconsistency is literally, "IDGAF." I am totally willing to say that each episode takes place in an AU of its very own. I enjoy the show more that way. Also, checked.
>>41058899>not having the mental strength to ignore the showHow does it feel being niggercattle?
>>41058946There were a few small things that didn't make much sense to me like Twi being scared of ladybugs, but overall I think the show was very consistent.>>41058966Why would I want to "ignore" the show? It's my most favorite show of all time.
>>41059076>but overall I think the show was very consistent.You have a long way to go.
>>41058946>advantage of not caring whether the show makes senseNice to meet someone who thinks like me. Overthinking disturbs the enjoyment of pony IMO. It's a kids show after all.
>>41059124Like I said, I didn't make headcanons until after finishing the entire show to get the whole picture first. So I didn't run into any roadblocks.
>>41057438Sure, she was just vacationing there.
>>41059220It's not even a matter of headcanons.
>>41058325>one school in ponyville>somehow the CMC have never met regardlessMakes sense to me, just because someone is in your class it doesn't mean you'll notice them.
Scootaloo and Sweetie didn't go to school, either that or they dyed their coats.
>>41059223Or she was in hiding ready to assist the m6 if things turned badly because it is immensely irresponsible to leave the fate of the world to a bunch of untrained mares at the last minute without any help.Or maybe she is a coward who likes making others do the work for her.There are many possibilities, all headcanons.
>>41056020>Mayor Mare: Seize her! Only she knows where the Princess is!Faggots who haven't watched the fucking pilot need to be IP banned.
>>41059972How does Mayor Mare know this?
>>41059972As if Mayor Mare knows what she's talking about, she's just as oblivious as the rest of the ponies when she actually thinks anyone can just "seize" NMM lol.Even if Mayor Mare had omniscient knowledge, that still doesn't prove NMM banished Celestia, only that NMM knows where the princess is.
Why do so many people suddenly just not even know "show, don't tell" has ever existed? Did they get put here from another dimension where writing stories never became a thing so none of them understand what makes a story good?
>>41060123>>41060126>Nightmare Moon: Oh, my beloved subjects. It's been so long since I've seen your precious little sun-loving faces.>Rainbow Dash: What did you do with our Princess?!>Applejack: Whoa there, Nelly...>Nightmare Moon: Why, am I not royal enough for you? Don't you know who I am?>Pinkie Pie: Ooh, ooh, more guessing games! Um, Hokey Smokes! How about... Queen Meanie! No! Black Snooty, Black Snooty—>Nightmare Moon: Does my crown no longer count now that I have been imprisoned for a thousand years? Did you not recall the legend? Did you not see the signs?>Twilight Sparkle: I did. And I know who you are. You're the Mare in the Moon – Nightmare Moon!>Nightmare Moon: Well well well, somepony who remembers me. Then you also know why I'm here.>Twilight Sparkle: You're here to... to...>Nightmare Moon: Remember this day, little ponies, for it was your last. From this moment forth, the night will last forever!>Mayor Mare: Seize her! Only she knows where the Princess is!It's not a very difficult conclusion to draw that Nightmare Moon did something to Celestia and knows where she is.>that still doesn't prove NMM banished Celestia, only that NMM knows where the princess is.So... where else would Celestia be exactly?
>>41060445None of them witnessed what happened to Celestia.
>>41060664And?
>>41059942Except the one that isn't a headcanon, where she was trapped in the sun.
>>41054329can someone explain why nmm wouldn't have just done that 1000 years ago if she could have just used magic to banish ponies? is mom retarded? lol
>>41057438The suggestion is that you see her coming out of it in a ball of light. If she flew there from Canterlot, she wouldn't need to fly into the sun first.
>>41060707You could dodge alicorn laser, but not EoH laser.
>>41060707Because Celestia was fighting back?
>>41060707Mom was a little drunk when she wrote the script.
>>41060720Why didn't Celestia fight back 1000 years later? That's a 1000 years of magical training and preparation too, Celestia is much stronger at the present.
>>41060731>Why didn't Celestia fight back 1000 years later?Instant transmission and point blank kamehameha Celestia from behind.
>>41060707>>41060731Celestia had the elements of harmony back then.
>>41054329Whenever I see a lauren tweet I basically assume that whatever the opposite of that tweet is must be canon.
>>41060770>After she appeared in Canterlot, Celestia went to Ponyville to find Nightmare Moon and use magic to banish her into the Moon.
>>41060755So? NMM had the initiative back then.If we are to believe NMM went and banished Celestia, who by the way knew when exactly NMM would be released so she wouldn't be caught off-guard, within 10 seconds of leaving the moon. That means NMM should have very easily banished Celestia 1000 years ago before Celestia could even think of or run to or prepare the elements.
>>41060988Yes, she probably did have the power to do that.
>>41060731Probably because she wanted things to return to normal and have her sister back? Because she wanted to test Twilight's abilities? Because the EoH told her to get fucked after banishing her own flesh and blood?
>>41060988We don't know how it went down in Faustcanon but she probably just let NMM banish her 1000 years later since it would give Twilight a head start to get the Elements. Also probably keeping her sealed on the Sun with her own power (Celest used the Elements to seal NMM away) drained a lot of power or kept a lot of her power to do which is why NMM couldn't just immediately btfo the M6.
>>41060731Celestia had to run a whole kingdom over a 1000 years while Nightmare Moon had 1000 years of being stuck on the Moon with nothing to do but sulk and prepare for her return so that's a moot point.
>>41061204>since it would give Twilight a head start to get the ElementsA 10 second headstart? That doesn't even make sense. And after revealing herself in Ponyville, NMM was just sitting in her old castle the whole time afterwards... where the elements were... which she chose to not do anything with for some reason... Man, the pilot is a fucking mess.
>>41061585>which she chose to not do anything with for some reasonWell presumably she saw that they were just inert rocks.
>>41061585Anon, she's a villain in a kid's cartoon. They always get overconfident and try to mess with the heroes for the hell of it. She needed to make sure Twilight couldn't use the elements, so she tried to get the ponies to give up or stop them getting to the castle. Also, hi, in case you forgot, the sixth element was missing, she couldn't DO anything with them anyway.
waaaaaaaaaaah, why isn't this show for literal babies as complex as my big boy cartoooooons?
>>41061961>>41061967If only more people remembered it's a cartoon there wouldn't be so much autism over ACW and MMC or whatever.
>>41060423The internet has ushered in an era of hyper autism. Even normies are unbearably pedantic now.
>>41060863Well, twilight is the element of magic, and twilight did banish nnm, just not luna, to an unknown location. This checks out.
>>41061967... what big boy cartoons? You mean family guy?Do you think anime is complex?Wait, nobody even wants it to be complex. Nothing suggested is complex. What hypothetical complex thing are you waaaaahing about?
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>>41062820The first cartoon to come to your head when you hear "big boy" is family guy?Sir, you really must watch more tv.
>>41054329OP? Faggot.
>>41064406What are big boy cartoons, can you name a few?
>>41064406There hasn't been a real boy adventure or male oriented cartoon in years
