>write a book>thinking of submitting it to publishers with an alias that makes it seem like I'm a "woman of color"I'm being completely serious, is there legitimately any reason why I shouldn't do this if I want to get my book published?
>>23311279Booktard are addicted to drama and if they find out you'll ruin your career and personal life, literally happened yesterday to a ftm named freydis moon who pretended to be muh latinx, just change your pen name to Crystal Alexis, put on a alternative lipstick, and claim to be a butch nonbinary transfemme.
Yes, yes!! Lick the vanilla snow cone...
I want a Black wife
I also had this idea. I figured as long as my book isn’t about being an Asian woman I could pretend to be one
Maybe I should wear a mask like out of Daft Punk with a voice modulator
>>23311279well seeing most woman and minorities just use ghost writers, i dont see the point
>>23311279And what? Never show your face when meeting about contracts? Use a voice changer over the phone? You realize that when books are published under pen name the actual publisher still knows who the fuck they send the advance to, right?Retard. If you really wanna do it for the bit?>ask a woman of color you know->be OP, don't know any women or non-whites>hire an underrepresented minority woman on fiver or craigslist or something>draw up contract in which you retain all rights to the work and any money it makes, she gets a portion of the advance>coach her about the book a little bit>start sending it out under her name>maybe make a series of instagram reels about an indian broad trying to self-submit her manuscript to publishers to try and increase representation in the white male dominated genre of fantasy goblin erotica or whatever it is you probably write
>>23311322I just want to overcome my milky white disadvantage, man
>>23311322That's why i always give out the advice to pretend to be some sort of trans-adjacent identity, OP literally just has to grow his hair out, not changing the name documents can be waved away by not wanting to be publically trans on such a hostile environment that is 2024, it's cheap, easy and effective.
>>23311279Can't wait to read your book Shaniqua Niger
>>23311324I'm a white ghostwriter for a BIPOC writer. I just told you exactly how this works. Get cracking bitch.
>>23311324Jesus no wonder the literary scene is so barren at the moment. At least 90% of all great novels have been written by white men and thats me being generous to everyone else.
>>23311279I really wanna give this chick some direction in lifeWhich really makes no sense since I don’t have any
>>23311327How do I tell them? Do I just include a note in the submission that I'm trans but not publically out lol?
>>23311335I’ll give the Latinos 10%, sure.
>>23311332OP im a brave stunning immigrant woman of color if you pay me i'll let you put the book in my name, as long as it isn't fucking trash.
>>23311322You can say that you're Jewish and trans. Who's gonna say, "He doesn't look Jewish,"? You can't squash that outright getting defensive about pronouns and calling that question a thinly-veiled transphobic microaggression.
>>23311279Sauce?
>>23311340Yes, during your introduction in the submission introduce yourself like:>"Hello, i'm (author's name), a (age) nonbinary queer author looking to get my story published, this story is very important and personal to me and i'd love to be able to share with other people, i see that you agency focuses on diversity and representation and i feel like it'd be a great space for me and my story"They won't see your legal name until you're at the contract draftin phase and by then you can wave it out by saying you're not ready to come out to your family, bigoted parents etc.
I've often thought about doing it but with a gender neutral hispanic name
>>23311279Have a fucking backbone. Why are you trying to appeal to retards ?
>>23311279White males get published all the time. Stop being a reactionary coward and just submit it.
>>23311569His chances will be fucked and you know it.
>>23311279Yea black women don’t write isekais they write porn and books on racism
>>23311279wtf I love black queens now. they just gotta present as white like this
>>23311304Trust me, Anon. You don’t.
Give everyone here a short premise of your book already
>seethes about society presenting him a challenge instead of meeting that challengeWhy live if you are just going to give up?
>>23311279At least pick a properly foreign sounding name that's ethnolinguistically plausible. One better if it's a pun or palindrome.
>>23311710The tribulations of a highschooler thats also a serial killer, who's a stalker tier obsessed with one girl he's in love with and is accompanied and followed around by the ghost of an ancient steppe warrior who only he can see.
>>23311710A boy, his dog, and the sea
>>23311941just make it
>>23311279Yes, do it. Do more stuff like this too, you have to cheat the system these days, unfortunately. One of my best friends applied as trans for a uni program he was unqualified for just for kicks, but then got in even though in reality he was just a straight White male having a laugh. And everyone would be afraid to confront you in case they're wrong. So fucking funny.
>>23311279Man now I know why black women are so bad at driving.
>>23311941Consider making the love interest black, and you have a story that can appeal to the contemporary audience that's obsessed with race. I don't know your own story, but if it shows the love interest in a good light. Making her black will only add more intrigue and add racial subtext into the mix. You don't even need to focus on that angle. The reader will add that theme (mostly) themselves if you write it openly. Then you'll have a leg up from other white writers when it comes to being published.Just a solution you can possibly consider
>>23311279Not really, no. George Eliot did the same thing a while back. Let the art shine.
>had all my documents changed to make me nonbinaryFeels good being a minority. We're all minorities as individuals after all.
Can't you guys just publish under your normal name?
>>23312054I can't since there is already a well established author with the same name as me. Considered throwing in my middle name or initial or using mother maiden name or the like but went with going back a few generations in the family for my pen name.
>>23312058I'm in a similar boat. My name is generically popular, so I'm planning to use my middle name (or just the 2 initials) and my last name
>>23311279>submitting it to publishers with an alias that makes it seem like I'm a "woman of color"you do know that there's an easier way to get your book published, right?
>>23311279I have an entire fake Gmail account, PayPal, and Twitter that I use to submit to minority only calls for short stories. I’ve been published a bunch of times. Probably would be more work for a novel but definitely doable.
>>23312054apparently you don't know the current state of publishing. Nothing by white male authors gets published anymore.
>>23311279Sure. Elena Ferrante is a man and his books have been successful.
>>23312411Aren't there a million publishing houses out there anon? Or are they all conveniently anti-white as well?
>>23315148all conveniently anti-white
>>23315165just publish your book in Mexico.
>>23315148>Arent there a million publishing houses? No. There arent. There are five big ones, all in New York City, all owned by you know who. And the smaller independent presses are also located in New York City, also owned by you know who. The publishing industry is as close-knit, monopolized, nepotistic, and anti-white as Hollywood studios. But dont take my word for it. Look at the call for submissions, look at their manuscript wish lists, read their mission statements, their calls to action. They're not subtle at all about what they're doing. It's spelled out in black and white on their website about us pages and their LinkedIn profiles. Go ahead and look at the big five and any little publisher you can find. They're all the same.
>>23315194Oh so it really doesn't matter then. I mean, my work for sure won't ever get published by the 'Stein's up in York (because it paints minorities in a bad light lmao). Why doesn't /lit/ just create a publishing house of it's own (that isn't a scam) that allows anyone and anything to be published?
>>23315211There's little reason to when amazon self publishing exists.
>>23315211>Why doesn't /lit/ just create a publishing house of it's own (that isn't a scam) that allows anyone and anything to be published?As it would turn out, running a publishing house out of a discord server full of handicapped booger guys isn't a viable option.pic taken at & head quarters
>>23315273ur a booger guy
>>23311279If you're considering doing this your book definitely sucks shit and you should probably just hang it up anon
>>23311279Gib to me black female pls...
>>23315386don't hate the player hate the game. The game called "identity politics."
>>23315220This. Just self publish, it's extremely easy and doesn't involve any of this ridiculous and undignified nonsense.
>>23315669This means I can still read Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and Plato since they're all faggots.
>>23311279Hot.
>>23311279she's mixed race at best
>>23311294This. It is as if you retards do not even know who rachel dolezal is.
>>23316236C O P EYou know nothing about blacks.
>>23316261what is there to know
>>23311279They'll see right through you because they know no black woman would ever say refuse attention by using a pseudonym.
>>23311341Spics are divided between whites, indios, and mutts with varying mixes of the two. By far the best latin american literature comes from white spics, followed by mainly white mutts. Indios barely release anything, and anything they do release is not only whiny, but also garbage.So spics such as Garcia Marquez, Borges, Asturias, Cortazar, Bolaño and the like, should be counted as white. Not to mention actual spaniards, so more european than any amerimutt, like Cervantes.The other 10% should be the asians, particularly japs and poos. And then there's the poos who are great because they were raised among whites, by already westernized parents, like Rushdie.
>>23315168Guatemalan here.You'll only be published in Latin America if your first book is viciously anti-American, specially if it's heavily pro-Communist.
>>23315669>be a super cuck lanky brit named Neil Gaiman>get into an open marriage with super annoying whore musician Amanda Palmer of The Dresden Dolls, of Coin Operated Boy fame.>get popular due to a comic book>push for DEI shit since like the '90s, to the point you write a script for the BBC called Neverwhere where there's a hot redhead, but you're happy they change her an ugly negress - back in fucking '96>you say you're fully behind this change like 10 times throughout the years>constantly push for feminist and anti-white agendas in your subsequent books>your new book is called "American Gods", but you make one of them a female african goddess, because nogs good whites bad>Sandman gets adapted at last>with a bunch of its most important characters raceswapped into blacks>despite all the groveling and cuckery, get this >>23315669 as thanksI mean, deserved, but still.
>>23317870Oh shit, just checked wikipedia, and>Palmer separated from Gaiman right during the pandemic in 2020, and divorced him in 2022lmfao. Open relationships are always such a smart move.
>>23311279you could just drop it on kdp and skip the whole retarded charade and be judged on merit, ie whether the free sample grabs people or not. of course actually putting yourself to the test like that is scary so you'd rather procrastinate with these fantasies of gay stunts you could pull
>>23311279this has been a major drama in the publishing industry before.Mainly, what you write has to be good. If it sucks, nobody cares.
>>23311279if you want a readership, you'll have to show your face.>press>social media>conventions>book tours>meet & greetsif you're really set on LARPing for a DEI edge, come out as non-binary, pick a femme/androgynous pen name, start using they/them pronouns. at least that way, nobody can prove you're lying.
>>23317870>Amanda Palmer of The Dresden DollsI had no idea. I haven't heard that name in a long time. I saw her in a small show in Portland once.>>23315220Ostensibly the publishing houses are handling advertising, while with Amazon you're in a sea of trash instead of on shelves and have to do advertising yourself.
>>23311279I've had the same idea but if you do happen to get any success then the fraud will come to light eventually. If the whole attraction to the work consists of the author, people will demand interaction with the author eventually.
>>23311304I didn't know I did, but I do now.>>23318679Or you could show your face once, and then hide for eons like Salinger and Pynchon.
