I'm tired of people saying "I didn't choose to be trans. I discovered I was"Shut up.Sure, feelings of dysphoria may not be a choice, but the choice to transition is entirely on you
>>35527446do you think being gay is a choice?you could just not have sex instead of indulging your sinful desires.fuck off
>>35527519being gay is not a choice, being trans is a choicehope that's cleared up for you now
>>35527446Being born with thyroid disease may not be a choice, but the choice to take medicine is entirely on you
>>35527519You become trans when you troon out. You are born gay. The latter is not a choice. The former very much is.
>>35527537I love meaningless word games.
>>35527519Being gay is a psychological attraction. It's what you thinkBeing trans is what you physically do to your body. It's what you do
>>35527446being trans isn't a choice, transitioning is one tho
>>35527543Is insisting "trans women are women", and repeating that slogan, again and again, everywhere, for years, a meaningless word game?
Homosexuality is a choice too. You choose to suck dicks, don't you. Nobody forced one in your mouth.
>>35527532Feeling sick may not be a choice, but drinking mercury is entirely on you
>>35527560we will discover the gay gene someday and you will eat your words
>>35527446Do you not know what gender dysphoria is, OP?
>>35527573a myth
>>35527522>>35527537how are you born gay?how is being gay not a choice to engage in sexual activity with someone of the same sex?you could just not have sex and abstain.sexual fulfillment is not a god given entitlement.are you gay if you never had sex? how do you know you're gay if you never had sex?
>>35527578>how are you born gay?the pipes are wired for hot water or cold water the activity is a reflection of the algorithm cued to certain male or female typic parameters
>>35527565I’ll glug down gallons of that mercury if it solves the condition
>>35527598what you think is a solvable condition, isn't
>>35527543The entire trans movement is built on word games >>35527578You don't need gay actions to be gay, you just need the thoughtsHowever, you do need to transition to be trans. Otherwise you're a repper and repper =\= trans
>>35527519>you could just not have sex instead of indulging your sinful desires.Yeah and I literally spent a year abstaining from sex because I think homosexuality creates sadness in my life. I'm still making up my mind how true that is or isn't.
>>35527600proof now, bitch
>>35527601You were so close but you fucked up with that last line.Reppers don't exist. What you call reppers are just cis people.
>>35527601>The entire trans movement is built on word games100 megaton trvvvvvth nvvvvvke
>>35527588how does that not similarly extend to gender identity?you're logic is they aren't trans til the transition and you think transition is wrong so they shouldn't transition at all. how do you make that argument while defending gay people? is it not a choice to engage in sex? hence consent is so important. they could just not have sex. they could not have a boyfriend. they choose to engage in homosexual acts when they could simply choose not to.don't tell me gays are born with bad wiring and then claim trannies aren't the same.if being gay isn't a choice, neither is transition. it's a compulsion akin to sexual attraction to the same sex.
>>35527446however it's the kind of choice where you have some psycho with torture devices and if you don't do exactly what he say(transition). he will kee hacking into your flesh with the knife ripping off your nails using, thumb screws and otherwise torturing you until you mentally break either submitting to transition, falling into a cocoon of madness dying in the dark dungeon of dysphoria.It is a choice coerced by fate itself, without transition we as trannies are doomed to walk the path of the demon. Hell always in our mindpic rel is unironically the only way i could ever see myself as a guy. Insane, spiteful, afraid, covering all flesh in loose clothes and scarves. Hmm now that i think about it maybe the Kishin is just a repper
>>35527625gender identity is made up there is no transition, just disabling your genitals and gamete productionit doesn't change the physical form enough in essential ways
>>35527628>it doesn't change the physical form enough in essential waysunder what metric of measurement?when satisfaction post transition is consistently high it sounds like metric of measurement is poorly defined and thereby inactionable.
>>35527628cope harder chud. I have a .67 whr from hrt and never get misgendered even in boy clothes. My physical form was definitely changed
>>35527641visual recognition of skull and physical bodythere's no study showing people can't clock passing trannies irl if you couldn't clock all trannies irl, trannies would submit the passing ones and prove it
Why do you people succumb to whatever whims your mind conjures up? Gay sex, transitioning, it's all insanity you choose to take part in. Why isn't a life of abstinence enough for you? Why do you need to act like an animal?
>>35527669why are gays uniquely called to celibacy in a way heterosexuals are not collectively if not for societal homophobia and a fear of integrating homosexuality into society?
>>35527657transition isn't about satisfying you. transition is about treating the distress so they can function in society as normal human beings.your metric has no basis in science nor medicine. you fundamentally misunderstand and misrepresent trans people as a result of your own ignorance. you're like well they look unpleasant to me so they should be eradicated. then you wonder why people call you an intolerable idiot.
>>35527446being exposed to radiation may not be a choice, but the choice to become a ghoul is entirely on you
>>35527688transition is about satisfying implicit but strong requirements for social conformity and gender roles
>>35527669because I am happier on estrogen, and glad I didn't have to finish male puberty. The whole point of life is to enjoy it and I like life better on estrogen so like it's an obvious choice. So glad I'm not a some morality cuck who reps because oh nooo it's against god and decency waaahhhhhh.
>>35527686Straights are vile too. Stop letting your animal brain take control, stop pushing your disgusting member into slimy holes, stop exchanging fluids, just fucking stop being so fucking disgusting!>>35527695>The whole point of life is to enjoy it No, you hedonist cunt. The point of life is to learn how to kill your animal nature. You are a disgusting ape.
>>35527694no it's not!that's you not getting it.that's you being ignorant.that's you misrepresenting things.gender roles has nothing to do with gender identity and everything to do with you being sexist! a woman isn't disqualified from being a woman because she's a heavy equipment operator. a woman doesn't have their womanhood status revoked because she sucks at cooking.
>>35527714ok what is the point of killing my animal nature? And why can't I kill it on estrogen or as a eunuch anyways. If anything I have less libido on e so my animal nature is more supressed same if I just eunuched myself so that i would be immune to male puberty.You must also hate straight couples because romance and reproduction are part of our animal nature, So isn't eating hmm maybe you should just lie down and not eat or drink until you die. That's really the ultimate act of resisting your animal instinct to live and do things
>>35527725trannies are the sexist onesthey are saying men can't act in certain ways without looking a certain way trannies overdosed on gender roles
>>35527741>what is the pointThe point is to stop doing disgusting things.
>>35527753me a nerdy tomboy mtf.yep couldn't of done this as a guy it definitely wasn't about body dysphoria definitely just le social roles
>>35527766ok but what is the point of suppressing my animal nature instead of just killing myself. Why endure the suffering and toil of life if I'm not going to enjoy it.
>>35527779The point is to stop doing disgusting things. Stop being disgusting. Stop.
>>35527695>>35527714>>35527741>>35527766>> the point of lifeyou're entitlement is showing.there is no point to life. searching for the answer is frivalous at best. just because you're conscious does not mean you're any more important than a rock.
>>35527785Killing yourself would stop you from ever doing anything disgusting again anon I think it would work really well for you. And before you say "but death is disgusting" it will happen someday so why rack up more disgusting deeds before your demise when you could kill yourself today
>>35527797I'm not suggesting life has any inherent purpose I'm a nihilist on that front.Just from a pragmatic view point their is a lot of suffering in life so the only reason not to kill ourselves is if we can fine enjoyment and fulfillment that can outweigh the pain. Transitioning both increased my fulfillment and reduced my emotional pain so makes life more worth living
>>35527802There's nothing disgusting about death. It's the only good thing life has to offer.
>>35527822ok then kill yourself chuddie. It would keep you from ever doing anything disgusting again. IDK why you keep deflecting the point that the ultimate way to satisfy your philosophy was to kill yourself yesterday. And the second best thing you can do is kill yourself today
>>35527838I don't take part in disgusting things. You do.
>>35527819>Just from a pragmatic view point their is a lot of suffering in life so the only reason not to kill ourselves is if we can fine enjoyment and fulfillment that can outweigh the painthis train of though contradicts:>nihilistyou're like a champagne socialist like hasan piker. please just stfu.
stop being trans and start being cis
>>35527845idk chud boy. Being trans isn't really any more disgusting than taking a shit which humans have to do on average once per day. In fact I'd argue changing my name and taking pills is far less disgusting than a number of basic human functions. Like honestly anyone whos primary goal is to limit disgustingness should have killed themselves yet you cling to life despite your philosophy, Perhaps you don't truly see it's merit deep down inside. What a pathetic creature you are
>>35527446it's a choice like a severely adhd person getting medicated is a choicesure, they can try to just cope, but it's gonna be a bad time and fuck up their life probably
>>35527522being gay is an act. feeling gay is not a choice, but having gay sex about it definitely is
>>35527863>you cling to lifeI tried killing myself three times. It's clear to me I cannot die before my appointed time.
>>35527863>>35527908Also, I am smoking cigarettes in order to shorten my life span.So there.
While we're at it, I dont like the whole 'we don't actually change from boy to girl, we just stop hiding our true selves!!'There is no true self. The self is always in a constant state of change, cis or trans. The self reinventing and reforming itself through deep introspection, hormones, and surgery is radical and cool. Stop deferring to naturalism, transitioning is an act of radical autonomy not fulfilling some destiny. I was a boy who made themselves into a woman. It rules
>>35527984>The self is always in a constant state of changeno?that's symptomatic of mental illness. fundamentally people don't change. a lily grow from a seed into a flower. it didn't change. it didn't stop being a lily. it grew.
>>35528004Yes, growth is a state of change. The lily is not same as it was before.>the lily is still a lilySure qnd this human is still a human. If we're can be as reductive as 'you haven't changed if you're still the same species' then of course nothings changed but that's a pretty reductive stance.In fact I'd say not changing is mental illness, that's what we call arrested development
>>35528060so sexuality changes and if it doesn't then they're mentally ill?
>>35528071I never said anything remotely similar to that, what? The self is in a state of change, that doesn't mean literally every single facet. Are you the same as you were a decade ago? A state of change is not exclusive to transgender people is all I'm saying
>>35527560Transgenders are homophobic conservatives
>>35528089>cet. Are you the same as you were a decade agoAre you not? Do you suddenly like pineapple on pizza, just because some years went by? Were you straight once, and then became gay? Will you become straight again some day, or maybe asexual?You didn't change.
>>35527851It's not really contradictory imo. Life has no inherent purpose therefore therefore if I'm going to keep living despite a lack of purpose I'm going to enjoy my time to the best of my ability.>>35527908>>35527920you seem really sad anon.>>35527984so based.>>35528091I like girls and am mtf try again
>>35528126right?i've hated tuna fish since i was kid.still hate tuna fish.literally gag.
>>35528188>you seem really sad anon.What you are feeling is your own sadness.I don't have feelings.
>>35527446having gender dysphoria makes you trans and is not a choice
>>35527554>thoughts don't lead to actionshm
>>35528326>having gender dysphoria makes you transNope. Having gender dysphoria makes you gender dysphoric. Transitioning makes you trans. You can choose not to transition.
>>35528338I think about murdering people on a daily basis, why haven't I murdered anyone if thoughts lead to actions?
>>35528344if you choose not to transition then you don't have gender dysphoria because you aren't gender dysphoric.you don't have what they have and you're mad because you want to have it so bad. worse, you undermine the legitimacy of their condition by trying to claim ownership of. you don't know what it's like. you'll never know what it's like.it's like ocd. you don't know what ocd is like until you've seen someone come home every day after work to organize the contents of the cubboards. like meticulously goes through the spice rack alphebetizing it.transition isn't a choice. it's a compulsion. they feel compelled to transition. it's a need that if they can't sate cause them to fail to function in life on a basic level.you people claiming reppers are trans don't understand what it's like.
>>35528356because you're not a psychopath that acts malevolently and would willingly sacrifice long term relationships to satisfy your fantasy.you don't indulge in your fantasies because you understand the consequence is too much.it means you're not a psychopath. comparing a trans woman to a murderer is an inaccurate comparison. comparing a trans woman to a psychopath would be more accurate.
>>35528423>because you're not a psychopath that acts malevolently True, I'm just a psychopath>and would willingly sacrifice long term relationships to satisfy your fantasy.I don't have long term relationships. I don't have relationships period. >the consequence is too much.Eh, I'm sure I would survive prison. >it means you're not a psychopath.Debatable >comparing a trans woman to a murderer is an inaccurate comparison. I did not compare trannies and murderers. I provided an example of how thoughts do not necessarily lead to corresponding actions. If I could get away with it, I would murder you. But I'm not dumb, modern investigative techniques will mean I'd go to prison, and I'd rather keep my relative freedom for now.
>>35528450>I'm just a edgelordftfyyou're not a psychopath.
