How long till Russia created the unstoppable tank?Will it be too late by then?videohttps://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1787162636968215022
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>>61565640Soviet bros...its literally fucking over the nazis have made the unstoppable slop.
exactly how bad is the armor on the T-55 if making it into a Maus made of a few inches of mild steel and rebar improves things?
>>61565640I thought the future was maneuver warfare, but instead we get this 40k type shit
>>61565640Behold, the WebM…
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>>61565640What happens when artillery targets these?
>>61565769>T-55I really wish retarded war tourists would use their time for some AFV recognition instead of posting webms about gay-ass shit.
>>61565788i think the webm is from a video that's a few years old but yeah still quite low
>>61565640literal fucking gypsies
>>61565783fat fuck
>>61565824I've been posting here since 2012 I just don't care enough about tanks to ID them based on the fucking roadwheels. Don't act like you don't have gaps in your military equipment knowledge nigger.
>>61565783the fuck is that out in front, a mine roller?
>>61565893kek
>>61565900It's a plow for mobiks.
>>61565769I'd fuck the first guy
>>61565769The hell I'm looking at?
>>61565640When are they pouring the concrete?
>>61565913There are many twinks like him in Russia if you can afford to satisfy the tastes on an oligarch's son. The Celine and St Laurent budget alone would financially cripple most men.
>>61565640evolution of the russian army reminds me of how AI learns to play super mario.there's one successful run of 1-1 presented to the public, but what we don't see are the 100 milion failed runs, where Mario bashes directly into goombas, jumps right in that 2 block wide hole, or tries to run in the opposite directionthey are currently on attempt 7 of many millions
>>61565769T-55 has decent armor, all things considered.100mm upper frontal plate angled at like 50 degrees and a pretty damn good turret . . For a tank made 70 years ago.
>>61565783These run for like 2000 bucks. Any expiring napalm in the U.S. stockpiles?
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>>61565640I would love to see proper western military's take on one of these. Maybe even RETVRN to big vehicle meta.
>>61566155>BreaksHeh, nothing personnel kid
>>61566145>flamethrower with a laser sight
>>61566129>>61566145No bullshit, I cannot express just how fucking dissapointed and bitter I am about the lack of proper incendiary munitions in this fucking war, all the have is shitty thermite and thermobaric rockets and bombs. Where's the fucking napalm and white phosphorus!!!!
>>61565640this shit gets sillier by the day, what the fuck
>>61565640"bro just modernise the tank bro trust me bro I've got a degree bro"
>>61565783God I love this war
>>61565893What hit it?
>>61565640what do you think, does it have ERA inside?
Why laugh if it works?
This shit will "work" until ukies get a fresh batch of 155s. So edge until Summer, you'll see plenty of these mobile BBQs serving their intended purpose.
>>61565783WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>61566655Stugna-P ATGM
>>61565783Do they just add random stuff that they think looks cool at this point?
>US spends billions on le magic abaham tonk that turns out to be worthless against a armed opponent >A few Russian guys in a workshop convert a T-55 into a indestructible juggernaut No wonder NATO is panicking and why they hide behind Ukraine; The only chance they had was when they had some Soviet leftovers. Now that they are down to using westoid trash everything is collapsing. They probably confiscated all the remaining Soviet gear to protect Warsaw like it would change anything or prevent battle of Berlin 2.0 this summer.
>>61566865I’d imagine that Javelins also don’t particularly care about some plates of scrap iron. But sure, turning a tank into an assault gun abominaton like that makes it pretty much invincible to current drones, so while they’re a dumbfuck idea for a against a well-equipped army, maybe there is some idea for them in a place where your enemy is currently under-equipped.
>>61567036>javelinThe volumetric armor probably changes the tank’s shape enough to make top attack less effective at finding the best parts of the tank to hit
>>61565884Stop trying to save face and shut the fuck up, nobody knows who you are or how much of le eldfag you are. Fucking cunt.
>>61565783I think this looks sick.
>>61565754This thing would be so fucking good against drones, just needs more sideskirts.
>>61566910>Behold! Our Greatest Weapon!
>>61565783My god...they made a bad tank destroyer.
the turtle tank is quickly taking ukraine by storm while the west smiles..
>>61565900Yeah, going by what was said by the source, the plan for these things is to use them as a mine sweeper and hope they can at least clear enough of a path for the convoy behind them to get through.
>>61566129These things could be really dangerous once summer gets going, as they seem like a good way of creating a massive wildfire behind enemy lines.
>>61567404Looks more like a leisurely stroll to me and most assaults use MT-LB's and BMP variants not meme tank destroyers.
>>61567036According to the source, FPV's have to try and aim for the tracks to take them out, but they often loose signal once they start flying so near the ground, making interception difficult.
>>61565913Same but also really what the fuck is up with Russian suppressed homosexuality? Their politicians engage in full blown make out sessions and their judicial system is basically built upon the institution of penal rape, but at the same time they freak out over people being gay? Is it the consent that angers them? That sex can be an act of pleasure and not just punishment or torture?
>>61565989M8, its true war of future, every step, every explosion is filmed and carefully putted in the cyber web, where you and can get some pleasure
>>61567449line of sight is a heck of a thing. Maybe they should have a relay drone kept at elevation?
>>61567480It was Puccian tradition even before the Mongols overran them, funnily enough
>>61566502They're messy as fuck to employ without aircraft to freely dump them away from your forces.
>>61566155is that the NASA Crawler-Transporter, with 2 BM-21s, a Tiger, a Tunguska, an ICBM launcher vehicle, 4 naval gun turrets and the fucking Gustav gun?
>>61566155>>61567845...and 8 road rollers
>>61567054>finding the best parts of the tank to hitThat's the neat thing about the Javelin, goes center mass and it does not particularly care whether it hits the best part, as it would turn the tank crew into soup/kosmonauts regardless.
>>61567845>Gustav gun>Not a multiple upscaled Phalanx systems chambered in 170mm KoksanShamefu dispray
>>61567845Does seeing big vehicles with big guns excite you?
>>61565783Looks like something i’d find straight out of Mad Max
>>61566502Not that Geneva Convention is anything more than a complete joke but…
>>61567376Looks like one of my cram tanks from FTD.
Hetzer my beloved
>>61568160It‘s fine.>Forest and other plants may not be a target unless they are used to conceal combatants or other military objectives.
>>61567074>call someone a war tourist >I point out I'm not one>"why'd you bring up ur le ebin oldfag noone cares"btw what do you think of this cool picture of a polish Mig-21PF I found?
>>61568515seems weird to polish any aircraft that isnt in a museum or static display but whatever
>>61568538to make it fly faster obviously.
>>61565769T-55 has good armor for its weight class, which is about 39 tons when fully loaded. 205mm turret front/120 glacis, that's better than the Leopard 1, AMX-30, or M10 Booker. What it sacrifices to achieve this is bad situational awareness and cramped inner conditions: Soviets had to limit the size of their tankers so they could fit within the cramped confides and still do their jobs.IIRC, its engine is the same as the one on the T-72, so the additional shit turtle-mode add doesn't burden it any worse than it would being on the heavier vehicle, but jury's out on whether the casemate box is practical for anything.
>>61567481Can you imagine if the internet and 4k camera drones were around for something like Bull Run? The US Army STILL wouldn't have recovered from the entire world dunking on them.
>>61566865see >>61565939will only be stoppable by bunker busters or mud
>>61565783Russia should paint them red so they aren't slow as fuck.
>>61567480suppressed?
>>61565783Cope cage + sheet metal is the ultimate combo
>>61565783This is unironically going from cope to based.
>>61568997I disagree, you can't put that much chickenwire on a moving vehicle and have it not be cope
>>61569148You can if the vehicle is full of roosters.
>>61565640>>61565783when is this getting into Warthunder?
>>61565923i assume interview of least homosexual russians>>61565783tank destroyer bros, we're so back
>>61565640>Turtle Tank evolutionWhy not just have a bunch of wires sticking out of it like a porcupine? Drone flies in and its props get tangled and it blows up.Maybe rig up a motorized system where you can fluff the wires out on command so they aren't constantly getting in the way.
the land ironclad
>>61565783I'm not even going to shit on ziggers for this one, looks sick
>>61565640>Turtle tank evolution >Not a Doom TurtleNGMIhttps://youtu.be/DPqqmCE1M1U
https://files.catbox.moe/tagr64.mp4
>>61565783what in the world
Another angle on it.https://files.catbox.moe/3u5gp2.mp4
>>61569731>yes I vote Libertarian, how could you tell?>>61565640>>61565783>>61569887>The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles
>>61566865This thing gets stopped by every modern anti-tank weapon there is and all guided or corrected artillery fired at it. It's an MBT repurposed to clear minefields while deflecting shitty FPV drone fitted with surplus shit RPG-7 single stage warheads. Everyone is all retarded about it, but my best guess is that this thing is being used somewhere were the Ukrainians do not have any proper AT weapons in place and the Russians are fielding some rag tag bullshit forces as well. I doubt that>TOW's>Javelins>APFSDS roundswould give a single fuck about that retarded stand-off armor. They'd simply vaporize it. This thing is equally embarrassing for the Russians as it is for the Ukrainians. One because they can't into proper counter for shitty FPV drones, the other because all they have are shitty FPV drones.
>>61569887Please let there be an effigy upgrade before they run out of tanks
>>61569966all these wunderwaffen have a great chance to miss such tank, and anyway are of low importance in this war. FPV drones barely can penetrate a tank unless operator is lucky and hits one of few vulnerable areas, but they are (1) in order of two magnitudes cheaper than wunderwaffen and three to four orders of magnitude than a tank, (2) hopelessly outrange their targets, (3) don't expose operator to the retaliation fire, (4) don't require much experience to use them effectively. It's revolution which is comparable only to the very first firearms when they were fielded against much more powerful (on paper) professional knights and bowmen. When the knight reaches positions of enemy he usually wins, takes that treeline, but the problem is to pass through that last literally mile.
>>61570026>Order of magnitude cheaper100% true, thus they are imrpovised and somewhat effective AT weapons, but effectiveness greatly overstated like you already said/implied (which we have seen before, with panzerfausts and shit)>Hopelessly outrange their targetThis is highly dependent on both terrain, drone used, payload carried and even weather conditions. Still severely outclassed by Javelins at 4km and Kornets at 8km. Effective firing for a t-72 is given as between 2000-3000 meters in day time conditions.>don't expose operator to retaliation fireThis is highly dependent on who are involved, on face value this is completely true, but if SIGINT units are thrown into the mix enemy artillery should be able to pinpoint immediately since you're constantly emitting to the drone, all it would take are some mortars or even howitzers to vaporize your location since it becomes a priority target.>don't require much experience to use them effectively.I have flown a drone like this a one or twice, it was weird, no doubt you get better at it. Might be easier than firing a Kornet or Javelin and need less formal training, but just barely.If anything FPV drones are being described as wunderwaffe, which they clearly aren't, they're imrpovised contraptions, necessities even, because actual purpose built systems do a way better job than.
>>61565783Lovely aesthetics. Utterly ridiculous idea but who cares.
>>61570053ATGMs are direct LOS weapons, they are very dangerous for the operators. That's why remotely controlled Stugna is more effective than Javelin or especially TOW. Also ATGMs are very heavy and more or less static targets. A pack drones can be moved around even by a child.Operator of a drone stays in a cellar or in a destroyed building and is often invulnerable to artillery fire. There are very few losses of drone operators.The effective range of a FPV is way more than 10 km against 5 km of Kornet or 2-3 of a tank. The drone does need direct LOS so it can pass over high trees and attack from behind.
>>61565640ok but what's the point of this? it now can't operate as a tank anymore and has become an assault gun. Might aswell remove the turret and fit a 152 using it as an su-100 only against infantry, structures and light vehicles. You could also give it a drone to spot targets and link the drone gps data to the FCS of the tank enabling accurate indirect fire.
>>61570088>The effective range of a FPV is way more than 10 kmI'm sorry but this just sounds incredulous. Especially if you also strap a warhead to a drone. You'd also need quite an emitter that is definitely not in a basement, on top of that there's going to be significant control feedback; also emitting like that should be straight up dangerous.With the warheads strapped to the drones you most certainly can move about as much of them around as your traditional RPG team could.Cellars or destroyed buildings offer protection against mortars for sure, I doubt they protect against direct howitzer impacts.I think people are glamorizing and overstating the effect of FPV drones because of all the propaganda footage that is pumped out around them.
>>61565893What is this, t-60 pinto? It looks like a stuffed t-60 with all the cotton misshaped to look like a facsimile of a Leo or something. Not buff enough to pass off as an abrams.
>>61570208Currently the range is about 15 km with warhead.
>>61569731they already did
>>61565783imagine being told to get inside that thing and drive to the frontlines
>>61569887It really needs a figurehead below the barrel.
>>61570335we still have to see one firing at something though
>>61570351Isn't that more like a mobile fortification/mine clearing vehicle?
>Pen hereJokes on you, it carries no Ammo.
>>61570335>>61570562>>61568997>>61570084zigur thinks he is slick with samefaging
>>61570351But it doesn’t,so far it seems to be used for mine clearing behind the frontlines.
>>61565640We're entering Best Slug territory
>>61565783What an absolute unit
>>61565783The Russian Tank That SHOCKED The World...
>>61565783I cannot wait to see this one explode into confetti after a drone strike.we've had turret launches, now we're going to witness an all those panels blast off
>>61569934Weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
>>61567480unironically russian tradcon culture going back to ivan the cruel. its part of their master-serf domination game rituals if russia would have a western aligned tzar Moscow would unironically be the homo BDSM capital of the world
>>61568515>polish>obvious croatian checkerboard on the tailHuh?
>>61570751>Moscow would unironically be the homo BDSM capital of the worldIt already is. They just don't advertise that due to political PR shit, but it's an open secret.
>>61565884>been posting on here since 2012>still doesn’t know the difference between a t55 or a t72 from the road wheelsThat’s even worse than the tourists desu
>>61570351they're clearly past the point of needing an effective combat mobile and at the stage of needing something to clear the mines so the rest of the vehicles don't get destroyed in the no man's
>>61566155>>61567845Broken Steel got pretty tough there.
Mortal Engines
>>61565783so THIS is what the world's 2nd strongest army is reduced tohow the fuck did they even fail to take Kiev and Kharkov?
>>61570751is that a girl?
>>61565783>we've gone too far... but let's keep going just to see what happens
>>61570562>soaks up damagei have trouble believing sheet metal and wire is a significant enough upgrade to tank armor to allow anything of the sort against modern weaponsif it were that easy to armor up everyone would be driving around in invincible juggernauts all the time and war would look very different
>>61570026>TOW missile Vietnam War era design>Javelin something the Ukraines get with every single aid packaged since at least 2017>APFSDS common Western cannon and auto cannon round>wunderwaffenFuck you, didn't ask and go back to twitter.
>>61567480Same reason the same applies to Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and lots of other swarthy places near Europe's borders: Near-East Asiatic heathen bullshit. Remember ancient Persia?
>>61568160Using napalm and white phosphorus on regions without a civilian population nearby is not a crime.
>>61570335Good thing we've seen one destroyed and at least 2 damaged to the point of it needing to be towed then.
>>61574500Yes anon. Of course.
>>61574568on the other hand, it makes you believe that you are safe when you are not
>>61577205don't squeak, you don't need to be afraid to answer
>>61577205>still seething about some twitter normies and wine momsWhy are you this pathetic?
>>61565783YouTube suggested me a short with this Webm where some machine speaking voice called this pile of junk "innovative" and "state of the art". Comments were full of ziggerbots
>>61570335Anon-sama.... you're fucking stupid.
>>61580321>YouTube suggestionsIt's like the trending tab forced down our throats
>>61565640Soon they will have dedicated casemate tanks.
>>61570562How much damage can the tracks soak up?
>>61565783I like the feisty little scarf on the barrel
>>61569879It's a copea cabana
>>61566481Probably a distance measurement thingy.
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1788153564478525755
>>61574500With enough time and lube yes.
>>61574500If you want to.
>>61565783This looks like a proper tank evolution for once. I guess the Armata got outdated before it even saw combat.
>>61569934looks cozy ngl
