AK General /akg/Afghan War Edition>Thread 2024Old thread here: >>61541055
>>61561948waaah waaah ammo eggspensive back in 1925 i bought 1 billion rounds for muh toenail clippings
First for 5.45
if ak good den why ukraine use ar?
>>61562034If "gibs me dat" was a country, its Ukraine.They'd use keltecs if we sent them.
>>61562034Because NATO is not producing 5.45 or 7.62x39 on an industrial scale. And before you ask why don’t they give them AK’s in 5.56, NATO also isn’t producing AK parts to service those weapons either. From an ammo re supply and repair and service point of view it’s easier to give them AR’s so they can accept our stock of 5.56 ammo
>>61561948contrarian general
>>61562114explains why they're using holosuns and wbp kek
What's the milspec torque standard for AK stocks?
>>61562128>>61562114I mean, yeah.If they're good enough for use on an actual trench wat against Russians I'd say they're duty proven.
>>61562357there is no love lost between me and Ukraine but I will say the entire conflict has been funny for demonstrating what is viable on the battlefield. That really goes for both sides desu, Russia has proven that holosun is amusingly g2g
>>61562377Estonia literally adopted a Holosun optic as their main optic for the army so they've been g2g for awhile
>>61562383I believe South Korea uses them as well in a large capacity. Honestly its just not that hard to make a decent red dot it seems
>>61562383Probably made in the same chink factory as Sig Romeo optics
Can someone please explain what 4.5mm and 5.5mm AK's are and what the difference means?
>>61562632Rear trunion stock pinsRussian uses 5.5 and bulg use 4.5
>>61562383Yeah? And India fucking uses fab defense. Just because something is “military proven” doesn’t mean it’s particularly good. Not saying holosun isn’t good, just saying we shouldn’t be using military adoption as a metric for what is good.
>>61562657No. Russians used 4.5mm and now use 5.5mm. Russian AKS-74s and AKS-74Us both have 4.5mm.
What's everyone's preferred ammo? I'm just stocking up on wolf and golden tiger
>>61562748This. That’s why PSA uses 4.5mm
>>61562791Still waiting for PSA 7.62 to ship out.
>>61562797I thought it’s because they just copied the Bulgarian SLR mechanism which also uses 4.5
>>61562791The cheapest
>>61562809The Bulgarians copied the Russians
Is JMAC Customs any good?
>>61562034Because they get the for free.>>61562377In war, everything remotely usable that is available will be used. Because there is never enough of the premium stuff and the life expectancy of men and equipment is not particularly high. The entire idea of stuff being used in war meaning anything other than it was available is stupid at best.
>>61562835Ricer tier but quality product
>>61562855>Ricer tierExplain? Does that mean they're just tacky?
>>61562791surplus yugo - the patricians choice
>>61562114>if we sent Kel-TecsBuddy that's not an "if" - it happened. Imagine getting your supply drop from Kel-Tec and it's NOT full of actual good guns such as the RDB or RFB.
>>61563043Holy fuck they seriously sent sub 2ks? I guarantee those were siphoned off and sold on the black market like 90% of all the aid we've sent.
>>61562343are you gay? a few hard mallet hits
>>61563043are there pictures or any proof at all these were ever in Ukrainian soldiers hands? What the hell did they use these for over there?
>>61563136>What the hell did they use these for over there?Preventing conscripts from leaving the meat grinder
>>61562343
>>61562114The Ukrainians got a bunch of KSGs, we know because the Russians captured some. They even bought Turkshit shotguns for "anti-drone" squads. https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/ukraine-adopts-turkish-bts-12-shotgun-for-anti-drone-warfare
>>61563049>All of the aid the West has sent is being sold off on the Black MarketProofs?
>>61562114>>61562116You seriouslyy think aks are better than ARs? Man, I love aks but I lost all respect for this general.
>>61563049The Sub2Ks were originally meant for sale on the Ukrainian civilian market.KelTec had all the paperwork done to export the gun to a Ukrainian distributor, but when the war broke out they lost contact with the distributor, so they just donated the guns to the Ukrainian government since they already had all the paperwork allowing them to do so. It gave them some positive press, and they didn't have to be stuck with a shipping container full of guns they couldn't sell or take back.That's why they sent Sub2000s. As for if/how these guns got used, it seems most of the guns went to the police and territorial guard around Kyiv.
>>61563903He probably also seriously thinks that Ukraine gets sent pallets of cash, and that most of it isn't staying state-side.
>>61562791barnaul you tranime freak
>>61562663Americans do not understand that FAB shit is Gucci in the slavosphere
>>61562027GM 545 bros
>>61562663yeah someone has to say it
>>61564879gm, I'm about to go to bed
>>61562034They’re free. Faggot.
should I do a plum furniture set or a black furniture set for an AKS-74. I've already got a buddy with a plum set
>>61563903“Well that depends on what you mean by better”
>>61565827Laminate handguards with a plum pistol grip.
KUSA served eviction notice
>>61563927>Kyiv*Kiev. In English it's written as Kiev.
>>61566668Not anymore, chud
>>61566681*Queef
>>61566785*Sneed
New scope for test
>>61561948This may not be the best place to ask this but does anyone know why we never saw ak-74s in afghanistan after the soviets left. They seemed to use exclusively akms during the US occupation even though they had to capture alot of 74s from the soviets. Is this just because they couldn't get 5.45 in quantity like they could 7.62?
>>61567562Logistics, mainly. The afghans never captured enough AK74s and 5.45 ammunition to outfit their entire force. And it wasn’t like they had the manufacturing capabilities to make more. Most of what they received was surplus AKMs from china and the Middle East through way of Pakistan.
>>61562034Canada dumped on them a bunch of beat to shit smooth bore C7s and C8s. Also they got commercial semi-auto AR15s donated to them. Ukraine is Junkyard Wars on steroids
>>61563903show me a 50 year old AR pick-up that's still running.
>>61562114We are sending Ukraine keltecs
>>61563728>show me where the black market islurk moar
>>61567354where to cop the vs24 euro fren? all my russian contacts can't find me one.
>>61567942>Trust me bro
>>61563927>lost contact with the distributorkek probably fled to real Europe
>>61567931Are there any photos of anyone actually carrying/using one over there? Google didn't turn up anything.
>>61563049>Russia is struggling against a country using only 10% of its aid. Grim.
>>61568004>russia is struggling t. state media of russia's enemiesobtain critical thinking skills
>>61568077Two years and two months into the 3 day special military operation...
>>61562748why did the Russians go to 5.5mm over the 4.5mm?
>>61568236its more reinforced than 4.5mm, therefore stronger and less prone to breaking. The US market has more or less standardized on 4.5mm because of Bulgarian imports and then PSA subsequently using Bulgarian guns to base their folding AKs off of because they are lazy. We had a 5.5mm option up till KUSA decided to off itself. never forghetti 07
Who needs AK ammo? Fresh new steel cased 7.62x39mm right here!
>>61562791S&B, yes i am a Euro
Is Palmetto State actually dogshit or is that just a meme? I’m a poorfag
>>61563728Prove I'm not in your house right fucking now
Do civilian RPKs have a practical role in hypothetical shtf scenarios? Or are they just fun range toys? Debating getting one of the Zastava RPKs once those get imported.
>>61568471>Do civilian RPKs have a practical roleNo>Or are they just fun range toysAlso no
>>61561948is this the metal part that everyone is always looking for on AK mags?
>>61568471Do you want an RPK? There is RPK. Simple as.
Upgrade my 104 with kusa and magpul shit or keep it stock and buy a new gunI was going for a zenitcope build but the new clone has holes in it.
>>61568511Metal covered front lug and metal reinforcements are what people look for in polymer magazines. Reason being is a polymer front lug gets ate up from use, metal covering front lug gets ate up way less. Reinforcements are obvious, metal more stronger than plastic.
>>61568511Correcto. Metal locking lugs (and ideally feed lips as well) will make the mag last significantly longer.
>>61568534>>61568536Thanks. That's the AC mag so it's about halfway there, lacking the metal feed lips. Beggars can't be choosers though so I am grateful for what I can get.
>>61568236I think the main reason was friction, by making the pin a larger diameter the stock would rotate on the pin, instead of the pin rotating in the trunnion. Replacing the stock is easier than a rear trunnion
>>61568517modern b33 has the same holes, they copied the new design
>>61568382yes and yes.if you REALLY want a ak and are poor, go for the gf103 on discount(if it still is) and see if you like ak's from there, if so then start looking into better ones(maybe get wood for the 103, but nothing more)
>>61566248thats it /k/omrades, its over...was fun while it lasted...time for the depression phase of grief.>captcha "xardy"
>>61568658I'm still a little bit confused on how k-usa went from 0 to 100 all of a sudden.
>>61567880those M14s came from the baltics, which were donated by the US as the soviets sort of took all the weaponry locked up in armories in the baltics when they left and people were getting uppity against moscow. it also helped since the baltics unanimously wanted to join nato asap for reasons we can only wonder
>>61568772Memedemic+ammo ban+late to the 223 AK game killed them. They never paid off shilltubers like PSA did either. I’m hoping they pull through somehow.
>>61568827Don't worry, PSA will buy them, and you can enjoy the Sabre™ line of AK's!
>>61566248Kek, it's pretty grand to watch Redditors get scammed out of their dollarydoos.
Are side rails good at keeping zero on optics mounted to them?
Afghan was the most kino war in history.
>>61568945What about Iraq?
>>61568945"no"
>>61568952iran iraq war? 8/10 kino
>>61568924Yes they’re good as long as you get a reputable one.
>>61568329>55 cprfucking greedy kikes. they could've come in at 30 cpr and undercut the entire market.
>>61568471thicker and longer barrel takes longer to heat up so it will maintain better accuracy under sustained fire.
>>61568471Theyre a fun rage toy
>>61568471I don't think you're gonna be laying down enough fire to warrant the heavy/finned barrel, might as well just have an AKM. That being said, you should still get one.
Anyone use a KNS adjustable piston? I'm wondering what the lifespan of one is. Contemplating getting one for a suppressor use, what the cost of a piston vs up front cost of getting an adjustable gas block. The other option is getting a Zastava and buying the adjustable gas regulator off gunbroker but that thing is front heavy.
>>61569140The standard fmj is .45CPRThat black tip is a self defense load
>>61568471Weren't they already in stock at Atlantic a month ago? I'm pretty sure they sold out in a week .
>>61569381 is the black tip hollow point or something?
The short quad looks so much better than the mlok 10 inch rail.
>>61569436it has a black ballistic tip you tard
>>61568310>hhhhhmmmm today i will PAINTJOB>T A N
>>61568471really only practical if you have one in full auto and have a team. Not saying it's not viable, just not the most practical for that scenario in question
بارك الله فيكم يا أصدقائي
>>61567963Trust me about what? I don't care if you find it, I'm specifically mocking you.
should I buy a new AK?
>>61570438Can you afford it? Is it a range toy or for self defense?
>>61567957I try to write to this vendoron telegram: horseonanizer
>>61570517Over half my paycheck goes to my savings and I always keep a few thousand bucks in disposable savings but I already bought a Galil (range toy) a few months ago and I'm trying to justify this one by using its for home defense. I just feel like I'm spending frivolously because I sunk a lot of money into a stupid car I never should have bought (I'm not in debt or anything, was just a retarded purchase I didnt need.). I know this isn't the place for financial device and I apologize for my blogfagging, but I'm young and a new gun owner and I just want input from more experienced gun owners.
>>61570548lol in that case, you don't "need" one. That said, typically people will accessorize their hd weapon. So, not just the firearm, but lights, optics, furniture, etc. I know this is /akg/, but consider an AR as a new owner. You will have an easier time adding and swapping those accessories, as well finding and purchasing them. But if youre deadset on getting an AK, then do that. Just make sure you train with whatever you choose, and you should be fine.You can also defend your home with psa dagger. You don't need to go all out.
>>61570620Thank you for the advice, anon. I think I'll wait until I sell some stuff and just rely on my jew gun for home defense. I just didn't want to become one of those guys who just buys a lot of guns because they think they're cool and then never shoot them.
>>61569603>hhhhhmmmm today i will FURNITURE>T A N
>>61563043I like my sub2k
is the american anon with the NDM86 here? How the fuck are you supposed to attach the chinese sling to the stock loop? Once inserted the leather is so stiff and cramped that it's impossible to insert it into the stud. Am I doing something wrong?
>>61571445I had a similar one for my chink sks and I had to throw it away because I couldn't mount it. Just buy a modern sling.
>PSA shipping my 7.62 out todayFeels good be an American
>>61569408No? The only Yugo RPKs Atlantic has had were the ones built by southern tactical. They did come out with an extremely late shot show video a couple weeks ago about the M72, but that’s about it.
>>61571691Legit shipped or Shipper Created Label?I don't consider anything shipped until the carrier physically has it.Mine is on Shipper Created Label
>>61571877Same here, hence why I specifically worded it as shipping out today. My label is also created. Chances are good that it will ship out today.
>>61568545Bulgarian slabs are $13-$17 depending on caliber and have metal front and rear and metal feed lips.
>>61568615alright ill stay the course. i have a vltor emod stock. will that curse my ak. prob wont lockup too close its a chunky boy
>>61568382Muh dimples trunnions
>>61571445https://youtu.be/t1IeS_lMdpU?si=M5RfdmNpMw3tauM6Watch this video. Helped me mount a chink sling on my Type 56 SKS
>>61569140They’re not producing nearly enough ammo to lower the price.
>>61562343Exactly three uggaduggas
>>61572819thanks a lot
>>61563728https://t.me/war_noir/14660
it was a simpler time bros
>>61569319That guy's custom Zastava gas regulator is $120 vs the reddit piston which is $159, and requires you to measure your op rod as well as do some minor gunsmiffing. Personally, I would lean toward Zastava, since M90s are fairly affordable, and it's a drop-in solution vs something that forces you to bubba your AK.
>>61574170Knocking a pin out to remove old piston then new pin for new piston isn't that hard to do.If it is, then I'm a rocket surgeon in comparison
>>61574181Not him but it's annoying on a WASR when they weld it
Where can I get a cheap wasr, fuddbroker?
>>61561948Im thinking about buying an AK. Where should I look to buy one? Online, parts kit, pawn shop, retail? Im not looking for anything space age or fancy. Just a classic wood furniture and black metal AK.Convince me to shell out more cash for better furniture, manufacturer, optics etc.
>>61573982It really was. I hate this new normal so bad.
>>61574426Drill it outMore annoying yes but doable
>>61574170>>61574181I was looking at getting a WBP since Zastava's furniture aftermarket (Zastava wood feels exceptionally cheap and I hate the feel of Hogue) is much smaller compared to standard AKM. If I'm feeling cheap and adventurous maybe even a Pioneer if reports of their new "forged" series not being timebombs that beat themselves to death are true, but if I go that route should I even bother giving money to a smith to install a new gas block?
Is it worth selling my AR-15 and buying a WBP or Fabryka Broni?
>>61574170The M90 is mid: it's literally the heaviest AK you can buy without getting into RPK's and the groups are mediocre.The reddit piston is pretty easy to install as long as your gun wasn't touched by Century.
>>61574633The drilling part isn't hard: it's finding the fucking rivet because they weld over, sand it flush, then paint it. It's super cursed to undo.
You! Yeah, you! Post your fucking AK right now!
>>61575712I'm in bed
>>61566248Filed Chapter 11 today and an "investment company" owns them now
>>61575712Ok
>>61569603I wish theyd just do a hinged dust cover model.
>>61576263they did for the AK200 series which as far as I know is a really great and lightweight solution for putting a top rail on an AK, but Russia didnt adopt it and I think only India as far as I know has put in orders for any 200 series guns
>>61567354What's that front furniture? I kind of like it
>>61574559WBP Jack or Zastava M70 with corresponding AK Master Mount dovetail joint optics rail and your scope or red dot of choice. If you’re really low budget then buy a WASR.
>>61567354what magnifier is this
>>61576394Sir, do not redeem hinged dust cover bloody bitch bastard
>>61576394>Early 45° 74 gas blockNeat
>>61574435Yes
>>61573687>Need telegram to viewI'm good. Also if Ukraine was, en masse, selling their NATO n' Friends aid on the black market I think this war would have been over a long time ago. One more thing. Think about the logistics of trying to move the smuggled arms out of Ukraine. How the fuck are you getting it out of the country? Can't by sea. Most of Ukraine's land borders are either with a country they are at war with or are butt buddies with sea is not going to happen because Ukraine sure as hell is not going to let a few arms smugglers risk the grain corridor getting closed. So finally I want you to ask to whom and how are they moving all these ill gotten arms?
>>61575964God I hope this won't be another Cerberus debacle. At the very least whoever owns the show now needs to make sure all previous KUSA management is fired and not involved.
>>61576394I mean Sureshot. Why tf would you go to all the trouble of making the mk3 and not just go the extra step with a hinged cover and a tapered button?Id love an AK200 series rifle too, but sureshot has the greatest potential solution for everyone here.
>>61578998This is true. The limited edition rifles, shotguns and kp9's were a retarded idea.
>>61579130They need a "custom shop" that allows people to order their guns with Barwarus, Sureshot, pistol grips, triggers, reddit pistons, etc. that they would install anyway. A lot of people would pay for the convenience rather than doing the minor gunsmithing. Look at how most ARs are sold with freefloat mlok rails rather than with A2 clamshells over the counter nowadays. The AK industry needs to catch up in that regard.
>>61579037Facts... facts... as i matter of fact i reverted back to a B-33.
>>61579130All that shit stunk of "my kid says people love "skins" for their guns so we should do that!". I wonder how many of those fucking guns are just sitting in that warehouse. >>61579185Not a terrible idea, but then you get retards that will be shocked and appalled their fully kitted out AK suddenly has a 2k price tag.
>got another fraudulent charge on a cc used at AtlanticFFS I'm just going to instantly change cc numbers whenever I buy from these fags.
>>61579969I had the same issue with atlantic, they must have a rat in their ranks. My suggestion if you aren't already, use a virtual card if you need to buy from them.
>>61561948Looking at getting a 5.56 AK, what are good options that arent too expensive? Was looking at the PSA ak101 but they cheapest they have are $1k
>>61580266>what are good options that arent too expensiveNone
>>61580266>ak>cheapThere are no good, cheap, 556 AKs anon.
>>61580337>>61580304How are PSA? I have one PSA AR and never had issues with it. I see some pinoeer arms aks for under $800 but not familiar with that brand.
>>61580348WBP 5.56 Jack SC or FB Radom Beryl
>>61580266You take the red pill and buy a Beryl because everything else has some inexcusable drawback.>jack 556: nitrided barrel, 45 degree block, commercial factory>m90: heavy as fuck for what it is, finish susceptible to corrosion >sam5: beats itself to death, milled furniture aftermarket is hopeless, Vartan tax>PSA101: no dimpled receiver, no swell neck rivets, weird bolt peening issue that causes popped primers and broken firing pins, commercial factory>WASR3: terrible mag compatability, (now) nitrided barrels, per-usual terrible finish>Pioneer 556: fucked up firing pin channel geometry: it will break firing pins like a motherfucker unless you replace the bolt wit ha beryl one. Nitrided barrel, 45 degree gas block.
>>61580811Only good thing about the Jack is that AoA in theory allows a lot of easy customization at this point. With KUSA's future up in the air I am considering a 5.56 Beryl cut to 16 inches as the last hope.
>>61580266Zastava M90 is the best 5.56 ak on the market without much competition. PSA and Pioneer aren't really worth talking about, WBP makes a weird akm abortion with a nitrided barrel, and both the SAM5 and Beryl are absurdly overpriced for what they are.
>>61580878How the hell is the Beryl overpriced? It's a semi-auto version of the actual 5.56 Beryl made for the US market. An actual NATO spec AK. The price is fair for what it is imoAnything Arsenal is overpriced, that's a given.
>>61580878The M90 is mid. Once you throw some surp and a cleaning rod on it, it's almost 9 pounds dry. It also puts down mediocre groups which suck considering it has a 18" bull barrel.
>>61580878>>61580908Y'all are forgetting how the SAM5s are designed to kill themselves. Unless you buy directly from KVAR (i.e. the most expensive place), you almost for certain have to send the gun back to have a gas restricter put in place. And the post 2021 receiver design will always be fucked up. The fact it's a commercial design really shows...
>>61580811Beryl is full of proprietary bullshit. It's cool, but I think I'd rather go with the M90 and save a few hundred bucks if I had to pick. The Beryl is also 1:9 twist vs the M90 that is 1:7 if that matters to you one way or the other.
>>61580908$1500 + tip for a stock rifle, add another 150-200 so you can use the goofy proprietary optics rail bc standard side rails made too much sense - and for that effort, you get a height over bore that's way worse than normal. Its main claim to fame is its pedigree - and you pay for it.>>61580910Have you actually shot one? My M90 is the most accurate AK I've ever shot and easily gets 3 MOA with the most dogshit ammo I give it.
>>61580964Going from 1:9 to 1:7 isn't going to make much of a difference. If anything, you are optimizing for ammo that costs more and you won't shoot as often.>>61580977I have. Outside of the Beryl shooting Wolf like dildos, the Beryl outperformed the M90 in almost all loadings I could throw at it. Even gave the AR a run for its money in a couple loadings.
>>61580348AKs are not ARs. PSA is building rifles to a price point, AKs are even more susceptible to poor(cheap) materials effecting the rifles longevity than the AR15.
>>61581394>AKs are even more susceptible to poor(cheap) materials effecting the rifles longevity than the AR15.Interesting, i always had the perception that AK design was robust because the materials werent as important, just slap on any piece that fits and youre good to go.
>>61581404AK will go boom with cheap shit but wont last as long
>>61581404No, thats why PSA has been through 5 generations of AKs and still cant get it right. The design is sound, but the economy of scale for cheap good trunions, carriers and bolts doesnt exist in the USA for AKs like it does for ARs. Even a peice of shit draco is still made of better materials than PSA, even if the PSA has better fit and finish.
>>61580853Unless you NEED Chome lining I'd just customize a Jack>>61580266BerylM90Jack 556 In that order
>>61580910>using the buzzword midConsider dying.
kinda want a WBP not gonna lie not gonna lie bros that shit been on my mind for a while now, i want a throwaway but decent enough rifle to do some stupid shit with
>>61580977>Its main claim to fame is its pedigree - and you pay for it.Yeah no shit retard. It's literally the semiautomatic version of the Polish service rifle. Of course you're paying for a pedigree - it's designed to not fuck up on the battlefield.
>>61581692I'll allow it
>>61581692it do be like that doe
>>61581057weird that the 1/7 m90 didn't like the 75 grain but the 1/9 did. nice graph btw.>>61580811My Beryl 556 broke a firing pin (under warranty). When looking for a replacement, I discovered all Beryl firing pins are out of stock. Not only are wbp parts more likely to be in stock, they are also cheaper.
>>61581057I need to start being this autistic. Good to know we have our very own Molon abe
>>61581404the AK isn't what people think it is. It is a cheap and robust gun from a MANUFACTURING standpoint, meaning that if you need a million billion rifles made, the AK's inherent design is both very good in the field but most importantly, very optimized for a lot being made for cheap. If you try to make AKs for cheap without a city sized production facility shipping 100k a day for some war effort, quality slips dramatically and it's becomes a less good rifle that isn't nearly as robust. Everything you think about the AK is really honestly more applicable to ARs these days, assuming you are using in spec parts which are honestly becoming harder and harder to find nowadays
>>61582377This. The best AKs come from state arsenals for this reason. They have the deep pockets needed for good AKs.
>>61563136its a cash grab https://www.wate.com/news/russia-ukraine-conflict/owner-of-florida-gun-manufacturer-sends-200g-worth-of-rifles-to-ukraine/
>>61581057Interesting results especially if the M90 got a fair shake. Did both Beryl and M90 have traditional furniture? My Beryl, despite a high round count (2K) gets better groups than most AKs. 62gr SS109 was originally designed by FN for the Army LMG trial with the specificity of penetrating soviet helmets at a certain range and nothing else. You should definitely try PPU 55gr and 62gr and report back
>>61582480The M90 had all surplus furniture. The Beryl had all the furniture that comes on it from AoA, but with a TWS dogleg. I will say that the M90 did have the cleaning rod on, so that could affect results: if the Beryl could accept one, I would have thrown it on (big sad).To be honest, I will probably never test it with PPU loadings because the standard deviations in their 7.62x51 gave me a super hard time The Bery did seem to really like the Federal LE 62g softpoints (under 1.5 MOA), so 62g with a non steel core might be the ticket. For now, I like GGG: it's really fast for 223 and groups well for range ammo.
>>61581404Russia is very rich in resources and had access to high quality materials. The metallurgy had to be just right in order to produce rifles that lasted long enough without cracking or deforming. Also, the important components were hammer forged which just in itself shows that they were concerned with a rifles longetivity. The AK wasn’t at all a crudely and cheaply assembled rifle. Yes the tolerances are wider than, say, an AR. But that doesn’t mean it can just be produced and assembled halfassed. Just look at century arms and the RAS-47
It happened again. My card which I only used to buy from Atlantic Firearms had a fraudulent charge on it. G damn it.
>>61582774Hope you guys are using virtual cards for these guys that lock down if they're used anywhere but these sites. So far Atlantic and TNVC both tried to steal my cards.
>>61580811>>61580878>>61580910>>61580927>>61580964>everyone bitching about how their preferred AK is too expensive, prone to breaking, or uses proprietary parts they can't get>me over here laughing in M92You guys will never experience or even know what true quality and versatility really is.
>>61582826ayyo he got da choppa!!!
>>61582826I keep forgetting these things exist. Honestly probably the best krink if you're hurting for a 22 cal choppa.
>>61582855*Or 30 cal
>Everyone saying how PSA's steelcase line is going to save shooting into trash as a hobby>Nodody talking about their 77g 556Their 55 cpr BTHPs are going to save the long range hobby from dying with the boomers
i just got this chinese abortion in canada and im looking for some njce quality mag pouches rather than literal 70s chicom slop. Is savotta good? are the zigger pouches with buckles captured in ukraine nice? whats the consensus for gear?
>>61569445Why don't you fags think this is the coolest fucking rifle ever?
>>61582826>laughing in M92
>>61582993Valgear has done a few videos on chest rigs. He's in the shit and I'd trust what he has to say. Personally I just like using g-code pouches as they don't snag the mags easily.
>>61569445I agree. I hope Barwarus' next release is a short quad rail set.>>61583184You get ree'd on in /arg/ and expect shelter here? But deep down I do think it be breddy cool. Get a rds somewhere on there and a light and it's pretty much gtg.
>>61569445Why is there a galil trigger guard on it, anon
>>61583184I prefer my longer handguard.
>>61582979their 77gr 556 is going to change the standard for the industry. There is no reason to shoot any other round for serious use, and it makes shorter barrels more viable. 77gr BTHPs are really good rounds, especially at the price they have them at
>>61582774>>61582779This level of CC fraud after purchases only from them I'm surprised a lot of the major credit card companies haven't bailed, or started a witch hunt. I'm sure someone in a federal position would love to buttfuck an arms importer.
>>61582779>>61582774Happened to me three times with three different cards. It is 100% someone from within their company doing this too as some purchases are from inside Maryland where they’re based at. Other people have had purchases to baseball games in Maryland too. Has to be a high level guy in the company too because this has been going on for a fucking YEAR and they have done nothing to fix it.
>>61568471Modify it to select fire cartel style to get its intended use out of it. Generally that's illegal, but during a hypothetical SHTF scenario even fewer people are going to give a liquid shit about the law.
>>61579194God I want that furniture for my AKM so badly
>>61580910>>61580977>>61581057>>61580878I owned an M90 after lusting after one for a while. pros:>beautiful rifle brand new out of the box>accurate>slick action and controls>factory steel functioned nicely cons:>heavy as SHIT for what it is>yugo side rails>mounting an optic resulted in a high height over bore as others have said>18" barrel on an AK + muzzle break made it feel way to long for an AKI ended up selling mine. It was a very nice rifle but didn't click for me. If PSA wasn't shit I'd really like pic related with an ultimak and a red dot
>>61582774Now that you mention it I had a fraudulent purchase on my card back in 2018 when I got my PTR-91 from them. Stings even more conaidering my particular rifle turned out to be a piece of shit.
>>61585694>when I got my PTR-91 from them. Stings even more conaidering my particular rifle turned out to be a piece of shit.did it jam all the time and mangle brass without firing? mine did
>>61585694mine don't cycle no more
>>61583891I've recently had my card stolen after buying from PSA and many years ago from AIM Surplus (although AIM actually owned up to being compromised and mailed all their customers a letter telling them to cancel their cards, so that was my fault for not doing it right away). Like another anon said, always use a virtual card when buying from these sites since the online firearm retail market seems to be full of scam sites now, and the legit websites don't seem to pay for good payment processor encryption.
>>61584389>yugo side rails>mounting an optic resulted in a high height over bore as others have saidDid you use the mount sold by Zastava USA? I think it's just rebranded UTG. A lot of people have said it's shit, and that Midwest Industries and Master Mount are better and lower.>heavy as SHIT for what it is>18" barrel on an AK + muzzle break made it feel way to long for an AKIt fills the niche left by the sporter Vepr 223 that were sold with 16" as well as retardedly long barrels. A heavy gun is not necessarily a bad thing if you're a compfag.
>>61586125>Did you use the mount sold by Zastava USA? I think it's just rebranded UTG. A lot of people have said it's shit, and that Midwest Industries and Master Mount are better and lower.I did. I ordered the rifle, mount, 4 steel mags, and a muzzle break all in one go, and after shooting it a while I didn't feel like spending more money on it at that point so I sold it and bought something different. >It fills the niche left by the sporter Vepr 223 that were sold with 16" as well as retardedly long barrels. A heavy gun is not necessarily a bad thing if you're a compfag.Eh just wasn't for me. Not knocking the M90. Mine had the red wood furniture and was a beautiful rifle it just didn't click with me after taking it out shooting a few times
>>61586179Those steel M85 mags are heavy as shit too. As for height over bore, the wood buttstocks Zastava USA puts on their M70 and M90 have a low comb, because they're mimicking the AKM stock. The wooden buttstocks they use for the M77 have a higher comb because they're mimicking the old M76 stock. I wish they would just repro the M70 furniture in pic related, but fags complained too much about cheek slap back when Century was importing them.
>>61586125This anon is right on mounts for yugos: RS makes a nice low pro mount as well. TWS Bitty mounts are also a thing. Although compfags wouldn't like M90's: while weight and more velocity isn't always a bad thing, having it all out front like the M90 has it IS bad because it makes transitions harder.>>61586179I was basically in the same boat. Took one to a comp and it was so heavy it broke the rifle stand we had to use for one of the stages kek. After seeing the groups in >>61581057, I decided it wasn't worth sinking any more money into. I think they are cool as an RPK larp though. I would be interested to see what an M72 FSB + Bipod would look like on one.
>>61586303Those surp M70 stocks are also heavy AF lol. They have like a 3/4 foot long lag bolt running through the whole thing and the wood is very dense. It's quality, but shit man it's heavy like everything Zastava makes. There isn't much recoil on M90's to worry about cheekslap, but those stocks fucking suck on M77's: it will absolutely put a goose egg on your jaw after a couple mags.
>>61586347>>61586303I will say though, shooting the M90 was a joy. Not that 5.56 has much recoil, but all that weight made it feel like a .22. I didn't measure groupings on it but was able to nail bowling pins at about 100 yard with zero recoil. The main reason I got mine was a cope because I couldn't find pic related desu
>>615865505.56 in an AK is fantastic. One of my favorite shooting rifles and I take mine out at every night shoot. I have had thoughts about trying to convert mine to STANAG for compatibility with AR mags but I said fuck it.
>>61586607>I have had thoughts about trying to convert mine to STANAG for compatibility with AR mags but I said fuck it.Hell yeah brother. I've looked into that myself and it's a clusterfuck. There was a company back around like 2010 or so that made aluminum mag adaptors that had to be machined into your receiver, but I think they're out of business now. I'm really interested in PSA's AK-556 but I've never owned a PSA AK and they've got that reputation
>>61586637it's still listed on their website. So I have no idea if they are still offering it. Definitive arms. I wanted to buy it at one point just to have in the off chance I ever wanted to make an AK that accepts AR mags but they don't respond to emails and I'm too lazy to call them.
>>61586637>There was a company back around like 2010 or so that made aluminum mag adaptors that had to be machined into your receiver, but I think they're out of business now.Definitive Arms? They're still around, but I don't know if they still do the magwell conversions since the demand for them kind of dropped off after the Saiga and Vepr bans. I also remember the owner saying he didn't really want to do the conversions anymore on preban guns since it ruins the collector value of them.
How much of a sin would it be to put wood furniture on a saiga 100 series?
>>61586993Depends on what caliber it’s in. If 5.45, you could make a near clone of an AK74. If 7.62 or 5.56, then it’s an abomination.
>Zenitco handguard>can't mount anything closer to receiver because shit under the handguard blocks the basis system
>>61585797I’m debating on picking up this Portuguese kit build, and I’m wondering if it will have the same problems as the PTR rifles with feeding and jamming or if it will be good to go. https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-arms-ca3-rifle
>>61587575>can’t mount his foregrip navy style
>>61587911That would be too close anyway and cause issues with inserting or removing magazines.
>>61587511>7,62>abominationmeh, I'll live with the sin. I'm unashamed since the days I used to be a chubbychaser
>>61586993I’ve seen that done before. I put a 74 stock set on my KR103 and it looked great.
Who would you say is the best manufacturer?
>>61589335IWI
>>61589335I personally like fram oil filters
Riley Defense…lmao
>>61586550Eh I have one these . Only like 1500 or less imported. It is a factory installed magwell but then dremeled out by the Vermont Monkeys so mag changes suck compared to traditional r&l>>61589335All import AKs have QC issues these days. FB Radom is probably the best still not to be confused with Pioneer
>>61568471Does anyone know if a regular AK binary trigger would work in these? I’ve heard Zastava doesn’t recommend it but does it actually cause any dysfunction in the rifle?
>>61569140That’s the enhanced ammo, the regular Soviet bloc style stuff is 10 cents less
>>61567880Desperately hoping they pull strings after the war and the war profiteers can sell us a bunch of surplus BS back
>>61568382I doubt they’re that bad however I’d avoid the standard AKs just because there’s still enough decent stuff out there. I’ve seen some of the century models with chrome battles for like $750 not long ago. Zastavas go for like $975. Until I see otherwise I would treat the PSA ones as fun hobby rifles. But I imagine in the near future they’re probably be pretty decent.
>>61589576*avoid their standard AKs, as in the GF3s. Sometimes you can see them for as low as $650, there’s a blem with green furniture for $630 right now, which is a good price. But typically they’re like $750. However there’s no way I’d suggest a GF4 or GF5 over a Zastava. But either way, if you can save $750 for a GF3 you can save $200 more for an M70
Anyone get their PSA ammo yet? I shot an AK for the first time. I like 7.62x39.
>>61589717fucked up the metadata on pic
>>61589735I’m interested to see how to performs. I imagine it’ll perform mediocre at first then in a year or so be a decent mid tier option, like all other PSA products
Don’t panic buy K-USA. They’re not going anywhere. Some like investment from will buy them for sure and continue to pump out nigger made goyslop rifles for you. Don’t worry.
>>61590185>kikelantic firearms>who just sent out a panic buy email a week ago
>>61590185KUSA is peak mutt manufacturing, shitty, sloppy, and overpriced.
>>61589735>Brooo noooo don't shoot that!>Its a hekkin modern day collecterino!!!!!!!
why didnt kusa clone the stock. made two other useless "premium" stocks. fucking idiots deserve to bankrupt
>>61589717Mine shipped today. It's a UPS Standard Parcel tracking and I'm in a 2 day point so I should see it Friday.
>>61590242Clone what stock?
>>61590249any of the zenitco pts. theyre already stealing other IP dont stop halfway
>>61590185I got my kr103sfs for $1250 on fuddbroker. $1000 seems ok for a kp9 or a ks-12. I would like to see more kp104s. Not that I’m buying anytime soon.
>>61590294>zenitshitoh, ok
>>61583306Based fellow M92 Chad.
>>61590234Someone shooting their guns? The audacity.>>61590247Nice. More to look forward at the end of the week.
>>61590303lmao are you the kpyk reddit fag?
>>61590407Nah I like plain jane AK's. As far as I've gone is ak9 hg's and vertical grips.
>>61561948Technically not an AK, but does anyone have a recommendation for a folding stock for a VZ58?
>>61568382I recently bought a brand new PSA GF3 Ak103 and it came pre-rusted in several spots..
>>61590490All PSA’s are blem. Don’t you know that?I think Columbia South Carolina is very humid, where their factory is. They should do a better job of coating their guns in grease before shipping out.
>>61590757>bought psa blem>All PSA’s are blem. Don’t you know that?I don’t understand this meme. If you bought the blem rifle for less than msrp, why comment all their rifles are blems? So, you’re getting what the rifle is actually worth. How is that a loss?
>>61590895nta but reread the messages
>>61590965Oh
After all, why shouldnt i?
>>61590429everything is fine and well, until you start shooting seriously, and then you find that every piece of furniture on the gun has to be replacedgoes for pretty much all rifles desu
>>61590975If you're capable it'd be sick. Godspeed.
>>61590975If you can pull it off, go for it.
>>61590975Commie Sig Rattler
>>61591187since the VAL came first wouldnt that make the Rattler a gay VAL?
>>61591192>>61591187>>61591164>>61591130I changed my mind, I thought Dracos were dirt cheap nigger guns but they cost 1000 dollars for some reason
>>61591201>Draco's cost 1000 dollars for some reasonBecause they are really popular and they have never really had any problems because they are imported as unmolested pistols instead of 922r U.S. modified rifles.
>you need zenitshit to shoot static steel target as quickly as possible
>>61591201Damn, I remember when they were $500.
>>61590185I'll keep dropping by there to see if there's activity. One of my customers in Lighthouse Point that I visit all the time.
>>61591290We need to go back.
>>61591290its the micro and mini that are so pricey
>>61591336K... KEEP ME POSTED
>>61591379
>>61589518Why the fuck doesn't no one make an ak binary trigger with a regular ak safety selector?
>>61585797>>61585843>Didn't cycleYuuuuup. I knew it was something with the bolt because I had one of the üb training bolts and some blue ammo and it ran like a charm. Sold mine during the pandemic and actually came out on top.
Imagine gentle missionary with handholding and eye contact with an /akg/ user...
>>61577787Ukraine to Moldova or Romania has for years (even before the war) been a way which arms dealers use to smuggle weapons out.
>>61589335old molot
>>61591201You can buy the kits they use for dracos for 300$ on aoa
>>61593251typical akg poster is too retarded to assemble one, gonna have more into it then just buying a draco
>>61591413The micro is what I would need, anything longer has too long of a gas system to make room for the suppressor. It’s a retarded idea anyway lol
>>61592124that would still be an awesome deal lmao
>>61590429where'd you get the lower handguard furniture for the two rifles on top?
>>61594444akfiles before I was banned
>>61591413I'm doing something like this to my wasr.. but the esthetic is just such a vibe.. Need recommendations on rail.
>>61594675How the fuck do you even get banned?
>>61594684*because, not but
>>61594692I logged on one day and it just showed a message that I was banned for being a scammer in the marketplace. I had probably 50 positive feedback, never saw any kind of message about trying to resolve anything, I hadn't even bought or sold anything on the marketplace for a month or more. Nails probably hadn't had a can of beans that day and I got banned while he was pissed off.
>>61594799Funny, I still have my falfiles account with the same name. I messaged Jen and asked about my akfiles account but I never got a reply. I only used it for the marketplace and deals are few and far between anymore so oh well.
>>61593283You're right, everything is impossible and we should all just give up, thanks doc.
>>61594692I changed my signature to "btw I'm trans if that matters" and the bigots just banned me. I guess it matters.
>>61595353>kits made by nova modulYeah, you should give it up you dumb nigger. Buy a Cugir Draco and be done with it.
>>61595417This. Only buy guns if it involves filling out a form 4473 through an FFL. Never buy private sale or build ghost guns. If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear!
>>61595522>If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear!Your dog on the other hand....
>>61595391kek this actually sounds within the realm of possibility.imagine the salt you could farm with something like "Black Lives Matter, Love is Love, and Trans Fucking Rights"
>>61595713Fill your dog house with tannerite and steel bearing. If he's going down let him take an atf agent with him
>>61596361this your dog?
>>61593527Literally what: the normal draco is a 12" barrel: that's completely fine.
>>61595522>he'd rather build a gun from inferior parts than buy a used one in a face to face salepathetic
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>>61590236do you have any more of these pictures? i only have this one
