Weeb Gun EditionDiscuss your overpriced guns that you would never dare shoot.Previous: >>61456425
I wish we could get milsurp from the last 40 years of automatic weapons. How much lower would the price be of every other weapon? Would we still have the same level of industry built around the AR-15?
>>61536689I want the open-bolt WWII SMGs so bad>would we still have the same level of industry built around the AR-15?Sort of but for the M16 instead, there would be no point in having an AR-15 when you can have select-fire
>>61536961Well I imagine that most of the companies wouldn't exist cause they couldn't price gouge with small production run AR's. Maybe it would be a wash with less gun manufacturers and more parts manufacturers though.
>>61536961>>61537017I should've said >Would we still have the same level of industry built around endlessly customizable configurations of the AR/M16?
>>61536415>overpriced gunsSpeaking of overpriced guns, what is the best way to own an STG-44 these days outside of owning the actual thing?The PTR-44s, while not as expensive are still extremely expensive (and rare.) I owned one of the GSG STG-44s in .22 for a little while, but it's missing the satisfying mechanical feel of the actual gun, especially having only half the bolt travel. Manually racking the bolt on a real one is pure sex and the .22 completely cucks you of that experience. Wish we could at least get the 9mm version that Germany has.Are there any good airsoft versions or replicas that feel pretty close to the original? Shoei Seisakusho makes really high quality airsoft recreations from what I hear, but they're spendy enough that I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable dropping that kind of money without getting a feel for one first. Anyone here own one?Also fuck the HMG/PSA remake. They're trying to adapt and modernize what started out as a historical recreation to the modern AR crowd, and I hate it.
>>61537138>Also fuck the HMG/PSA remake. They're trying to adapt and modernize what started out as a historical recreation to the modern AR crowd, and I hate it.That's largely thanks to morons who refuse to own a gun that isn't 556/308 or 9mm. PSA mentioned if it was only in 8mm kurtz, pretty much no one would buy it. Purists hate it because it's not 100% accurate, and plebs can't stomach old calibers.
>>61537302I think it may also be a product of what happened with the PTR-44s. Allegedly those were made on original tooling, about as faithful of a reproduction as you could get. They didn't function well because 1) it's a primitive assault rifle design that was rushed out during a world war and 2) import restrictions demanded the mags be made States-side, and whatever monkeys were tasked with that didn't do a great job of it. On top of that, it was in the original 7.92 kurz caliber. It didn't sell well because people expected too much of it, and didn't want to be arsed to get into a milsurp cartridge for it, so I think only around 200 PTR-44s got imported, with no additional orders. HMG/PSA probably look at that example and think 'the only way we'll get this to work is if we appeal to people who wouldn't normally want it.'I honestly wouldn't mind it in 7.62x39 since that's fairly close to the original caliber but much more available, and likely wouldn't warrant as drastic of a redesign as what they're doing. They've taken pre-orders for a version in every AR-fag caliber under the sun before they've even gotten a working prototype out.
>>61537394Meanwhile I'm sitting here waiting for the PSA SVD so I can buy one that isn't in tye $15,000 range. I can buy a full fun Maxim for less for fuck's sake.
>>61537539I'd like to see that as well. I think PSA should stay in their lane, drop the MP5, STG-44, MP7 shit and stick to refining their AKs until they can give us SVDs.
>>61536689Historical funs would probably be slightly cheaper as Grandpa's trophy won't have to be cutup over a lack of registration, but they would still be very expensive just by scarcity. What would really kill prices would be the import restrictions in the 1968 Gun Control Act being killed as well, so all those crates of MG34s in Russia and StG44s in Syria can come over.Of course absurdly rare stuff like FG42s and Stoner 63s would still cost you your house.
I want an Arisaka. Don't care which caliber. How much should I expect to pay for one I can shoot?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5r-AyTPN3M
>>61537539>>61537590If you americans ever get around to actually produce a domestic SVD I will need to hoard buy a lot of spare parts and accessories for mines or they would drain up overnight due to the sheer market size of you burgers like with some ak furnitures. Positive side would be a revitalization of aftermarket accessories.
>>61538074>How much should I expect to pay for one I can shoot?Hey guys, get a load of this! He wants to shoot his Arisaka... HAHAHAHA
>>61538407I can reload. Its a myth about them blowing up
>>61538714You can definitely reload, and for that I'd recommend a type 99. 7.7 jap uses a 311 or 312 bullet, which conveniently you'll have a ton of if you do any milsurp reloading because that's the same diameter for 303 brit and 54r, among other things. Do know though that getting 7.7 jap brass is a giant pain in the dick. You can make your own by taking 30.06 brass and cutting the neck down by 1mm or so and.forming the brass from there.
>>61538074>How much should I expect to pay for one I can shoot?There's nothing really to look out for with Arisakas, besides not getting a training rifle, as they are extremely strong and well built rifles.Prices can vary wildly based on the little accessories the Japs added like the monopod, dustcover, aircraft sights, and whether or not the Chrysanthemum crest (Mum) is defaced. Autists will pay a lot for a Mum'd rifle so I recommend just a normal defaced Mum Type 99 that's missing all its little accessories. Shouldn't run you more than $400-$600.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1044411062
>>61538727>>61539449arigato
>>61536415Anyone got one of those prints from C&Rsenal? I want to get something to hang above my reloading/cleaning bench. I got a T-shirt from them and it was quality.
>>61539449I have a couple T99's where the Mum has an X through it, not as good as untouched, but better than ground off, both cost me $250 each.
What army manuals should I try to look out forI wanna grow my collection so it isn't as immediately concerning when I show them to people
What's the significance of some of these letterings having been "whitened"?
>>61542054None. Some collectors just like to do that.
>>61542054Some collectors did it to increase visibility when photographing, especially when using B&W.
>>61542063>>61542107Best way to remove it?
>>61542111Depends on what it's done with.
>>61541335Probably tank or rifle manuals, or if you wanna be more edgy, flamethrower or chemical warfare manuals. Helps if you already own said rifles.
>>61541335soviet small arms manuals usually go for cheap.
>>61538074>>61539449You can easily get both Type 38s and 99s for between $300 and $400.Don't fall for the trap of mum intact = rare. There will always be at least 15 of them for sale at one time on gunbroker. There is also a ton of them that are "restored" turds.I'd also stay away from a rifle with a monopod unless you know what to look for. Lots of them are repro crap and retards can't tell the difference between a real one and a fake one for whatever reason. The originals are usually bent in some form.I have like 40 Arisakas right now. You can always ask my opinion of one you're looking at if you wish.
>>61543530>LGS now has 4 T99's for $999
>>61543530my LGS has one for $500. I think its missing the monopod and aircraft sights. I'll post pictures here if I manage to make it there after work. I know that GB has some available via money order for $400 but It makes me nervous not being able to look at the internals
>>61543591>tfw got a 99 in nice condition (ground mum tho) for $250>tfw it came with the original AA sight wings and an early quill bayonetIf it weren't for the ammo being a pain to find, I'd shoot it way more often.
>>61543591If it was for all 4 that would be a good price lol. They'll have them for another 10 years.>>61543621You can always be patient. There are a ton of Arisakas in the US.Also, not every Type 99 came from the factory with monopods, AA sights or a dust cover. There are a ton of variations in these.
>>61543879The majority of my bayonets I've gotten with rifles. I used to get so many free bayonets that way. Too bad the market has wised up to that lately. And for whatever reason Type 30 bayonets went from $100 on a good day just a couple of years ago to wanting $250 or $300 for them. They're the most common bayonet out there and most aren't rare.
>>61543621USPS Money order is probably the safest way to do money transfers. Just be sure to keep your receipt and the stub. If anyone ever tries to give you trouble, you can call your post office and unleash the unholy wrath of the feds upon them. In case you don't know, any sort of fraud involving the mail is not only a federal crime, but they get REALLY pissed at people who try to steal from you using it. As for internals, just ask for pics.
>>61543953The early ones are really nice too. I love fancy stabby sticks.
>>61542111Cotton swabs and a simple cleaner/degreaser like Simple Green.
>>61543997Does enamel thinner fuck up bluing or park?
>>61544001I wouldn't use something that harsh to remove what's most likely chalk. Honestly you could even try water first and see if that gets it out.My rule of thumb is never use chemicals on/around the wood, unless your intent is to remove the finish, and as for cleaning the metal, use something you'd feel comfortable using on your kitchen counter/dining room table with your bare hands, doesn't leave a residue, and of course put a thin coating of oil over the area after you're done, and wipe with a dry cloth until the area doesn't look wet anymore.
With all this talk of bayonets, here's a question:What's your favorite bayonet that you own?And what's the one bayonet that you want to own?
400 out the door. Yay or nay
>>61543591Don't lose hope. I got my Nagoya Type 99 zero series last year, with AA sights, for $300, doesn't look like it was dragged behind a truck for five miles either. I still see them for 300-400 at shows all the time, and I'm on the US east coast where shit is typically more expensive. Very rare for it to come with the bayonet for that much anymore though
>>61544883Does the bolt match? Intact mum? Looks like a late 34th series or early 35th. If matching and intact it's average. Probably a little high otherwise but not insane. The stock isn't sanded so that's a huge plus.>>61544899The eastern US is where 80% of the Arisakas are as most of the navy vets where from the northeast.
>>61545020bolt matches. Mum is not intact, theres been a line ground down the middle
>>61544696>What's your favorite bayonet that you own?Rosalie the knitting needle. >And what's the one bayonet that you want to own?Bolo bayonet for the US M1903. Sadly 95% are fakes.
>>61544883That's a lot for a last ditch, these often don't have the chrome lined barrel, but if there is rifling it is shootable. I wouldn't pay more than $200 for that.
>>61545051If you want it, it's not a terrible price these days. Certainly be around the same price to get a similar one with shipping. I'd still try to get at least $50 off tho.>>61545126You're like 10 years out of date. Even bubba'd ones tend to reach that price now which is dumb but w/e.
>>61537138Very few of these kits have made it to the US. You'd be lucky to find a kit on GB at all. Rumored to be made on the original ww2 tooling.They are very high-quality kits. Worlds better than the assembled PTR44s of the past.
>>61545248>Even bubba'd ones tend to reach that price now which is dumbYeah. The sporterized last ditch rifles go for $299 whenever I've seen them the last 2-3 years. Not even worth saving them at that price
>>61545248>>61545316Yeah if you're looking on Boomer broker expect to pay out your asshole. I've bought all of mine on hibid, last year I got a type 38 carbine with mum for $350
>>61545316Look at every gunbusters auction. They go for more than complete rifles lol.>>61545337Eh. You sometimes get lucky even on gunbroker. I got this a couple weeks ago. Still waiting for it to arrive tho. I also lurk hibid from time to time and they usually go just as high as gunbroker.
>>61545427Damn. I'm assuming its still about 350 after transfers and shipping if you don't have C&RGB is so dissappointing that Its hard to bring myself to visit
>>61545506>2024>he doesn't have his C&R>he isn't working on his 07 SOT
>>61545506It was actually $332 shibbed. He had cheap shipping on it. I'm surprised it went so low. The bolt and floorplate matched. It appears to be a Nagoya arsenal rebuild. Kinda like these, but without the barrel being chopped.
>>61536415found a sks LNIB with some faint cosmoline still on it. I noticed that it sometimes gives light primer strikes, I re-use the same bullet and it goes bang. After shooting the sks, it heats up and I no longer get light primer strikes. I know it's most likely the cosmoline near the firing pin, just wondering if I could fire off all the cosmoline and not have to take apart the bolt and firing pin. any thoughts?
Is it possible to find a Hakim these days which doesn’t make my pocketbook cry, or should I give up hope for one?
>>61545803>take apart the bolt and firing pinSoak it in gasoline, the Govt doesn't want you to know this cheap simple trick
What are some ww2 semi automatic rifles that you like?
>>61544696My favorite is the German-captured Vz24 bayonet (has a green square over it in picrel) mounted in a Luftwaffe-marked frog. Has markings for a German motorized infantry replacement unit stamped into the pommel as well. Seller didn't notice and only wanted $40 for a "Czech Bayonet". Only two of my K98k bayonets are matching because I simply refuse to pay boomer prices for them.I'd love an original for my M39, but the Finns destroyed 90% of those post-war. Very few got out of the country, and thankfully the one run of repros made in the 90s are clearly marked as such on the blade so fakers can't easily mess with 'em, but even those are about $400. Originals are worth as much if not more than the rifle.
>>61545813When "2020 Summer of Love: The Sequel" happens and all the AR shit disappears overnight again, all the fudds who didn't get the message last time will be lining up to trade surp for cheap builds with shitty red dots and a couple of loaded mags. Probably your best bet for a deal. That, or find a shop owned by some God & Country type who thinks anything with thirdie markings on it is automatically trash.
>>61546198>Only two of my K98k bayonets are matching because I simply refuse to pay boomer prices for them.I don't get K98k bayonet pricing. Those bayonets are just as common as Japanese Type 30s lol.
>>61546336I KNOW WHAT I GOT SONNY $250 FIRM I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THE RUST IS NATZEE BLOOD
>>61546018I like the G/K43 and the G41 rifles as well as the Mauser M1916, I like 8x57 and I think flapper locking is a neat action that doesn't exist anymore. >>61544696My favorite is tied between one of my Type 30 bayonets and my S98/05. I like the long bois
>>61546438>"It was sharpened so Fritz could stick people easier with it."No, that was you and your retard brother on summer vacation in 5th grade fucking around with dad's war souvenirs in 1965. I wish boomers found the sense to understand they're not fooling anyone under 40 with these dumb stories about their overpriced bullshit
>>61545803The bolt and the firing pin are insanely easy to take apart though. I would just clean it.>>61546235What makes you think that's going to happen again, let alone any time soon? 90% of that had to do with the pandemic, and I really doubt anyone who lived through the first one will be willing to go back into hiding to let the economy shit the bed and people start rioting out of stir craziness again.
>>61546577God the Mauser Selbstlader are such good looking guns. A shame they cost like $50,000.
>>61536415I want am Arisaka with a monopod so fucking bad ahhhh
>>61546577Early experimental semi-autos are pure S E X OI saw a Mondragon in real life once. Was part of those dumb [DISPLAY ONLY] and I know I couldnt afford it. But thats as close as ive ever come to any.
>>61546018Has anyone made a list of them all?>M1 Garand>M1 Carbine>Johnson M1941>SVT-38>AVT/SVT-40>SKS (There is some record of them seeing limited field issue very late in the war.)>Gewehr 41(M)>Gewehr 41(W)>Gewehr 43>MAS-44>Ag/42 Ljungman>FN49 tangentially, considering its development had been in progress since the 30s and had to be moved to Enfield due to the Germans invading Belgium.Any I'm missing? I tried not to include ones that were already around during WW1 like the RSC or the M1916 Selbstlader since those are less considerable as having heritage during/around WW2.(Also to answer your original question, I'm partial to the Garand and SVT-40. Arguably the top two of the generation.)
>>61549145Wikipedia usually just has straight up lists like this so probably a ww2 one out there or something i dunno im not looking to closelyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semi-automatic_rifles
>>61549145There's also these, off the top of my head.>AVS-36>Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr>ZH-29>Kbsp wz. 1938M>Japanese Pederson Trials Rifle
Am I missing something about this rifle? Swedish Mauser, 1917, seems to be matching serials, and I have the highest bid at $280 and has held it for days.
>>61549504Nah it looks good anon, I had two swede mausers at one point, they're cool and easy shooting. What does the disc say?
Just acquired a hakim
>>61549509There's no close-up pics of it.I'm just worried, usually quality milsurp at least has a couple of other bidders, but I'm the only one who's bid on it.
>>61549504The high bid doesn’t mean anything until the hammer falls.
This thread needs more M95. Czech out my new Czech-marked M95 carbine>>61546008>Soak it in gasolineUse gloves. I once soaked a bolt in gas and quickly picked it up to get it out of the pan. Found out then my skin really REALLY doesn't like gasoline. Felt like my hand was on fire, even a while after frantically washing it. Took ~7 years for my skin to fully heal.>>61547496>What makes you think that's going to happen againNTA but just the fact that it happened in the first place makes me certain something similar will happen in the not-too-distant future. "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes." And I think the evil-powers-that-be are already trying hard to think of rhymes.
>>61549512>sporterizedOof.
>>61549308>>Japanese Pederson Trials RifleI handled one of these at the huge Granby Colorado gun show last year. Pretty damn cool. Then I saw the price tag (100k+) and put it back on the table like it was my great-grandmother's finest porcelain.
>>61545713Why is the upper rifle's bolt in the white/chrome/polished/whatever? When I think rebuilds I usually think force matching parts by painting them but maybe thats cause I like slavshit >>61549512Why did boomers think sporterizing was worth the effort?
>>61550633It was a different time. Back then milsurp was sold out of barrels for pennies, and you were seen as a poorfag for having it (similar to PSA owners today). They would then chop and dress up the guns to compensate. Drilling and tapping for a scope was the same as slapping rails on everything.
>>61550633>Why did boomers think sporterizing was worth the effort? A sporting rifle does not have the same ideal features as a military rifle, and many of these military rifles were made in the same factories which produced high-quality sporting rifles during peacetime. To buy the purpose built sporter from the factory you are also paying the factory for the opportunity cost of making a sporting rifle for the civilian market when a government contract would be a more reliable source of income. But if you purchase the surplus military firearm at a steep discount compared to a new factory sporter you can invest your time and money directly into making a sporting arm with the ideal features for you personally.>pic related, the Winchester Model 70 we have at home
>>61550633Because you saved hundreds of dollars by doing so, even if you paid a smith to work on it. To give you an idea of how cheap this shit was, my grandpa's LGS stripped a bunch of G33/40 Gebirgsjäger carbines down to the barreled actions and tossed the stocks/handguards in the trash in 1950. German/Czech steel was seen as an excellent starting point for smiths, that's all that was valuable to them.My grandpa also bought his first shotgun at 15 years old and biked 5 miles home with it slung over his back and a box of shells in the handlebar basket. Nobody gave a shit, and this was in suburban Connecticut. Simpler times...
>>61550633I have no clue. Previous owner cut off a few inches of handguard like it will do anything
>>61536415I'm kicking myself for missing a north China type 30 on GunBroker about a year and a half back
>>61551757Years ago I saw a Chinese-captured Type 38 carbine in 7.62x39 for $200 at a gun show. Seller thought it was a home gunsmithing job, so did I. Someone bought it later. I looked 'em up when I got home. Still regret missing that one.
>find Type 44 Arisaka in a relatively decent shape>$4,800I hate the modern Euro surplus market so much it's unreal.Everyone is just trying to outjew everyone else.
>>61551757>>61551940I can do you one better.>out browsing at a LGS>old fellow is there>get to talking>turns out he has a treasure trove in his attic and offered to sell me a variety of things (5 different 1903s, a rack of k98s, even a g43)>said I'd think about it>a few days pass>contact him>he said he changed his mind and didn't want to part with the stuff due to sentimental value>tell him if he changes his mind, he can call me>he never callsI missed my chance to pick from like 15 different guns for $500 each.
Any of you guys notice the market is slowing?Prices seem to be going 20% less than they were a few months agoJust saw a colt 1917 sell for $700 after premium at a local auctionInterest rates finally caught up?
>>61551112Yeah, similar stories of the good old days consist of:>be 12 years old>drive dad's tractor into town>buy 500 round box of. 22 LR for $0.75>shoot all day without supervision
>>61551112>>61550633>>61552784People often fail to realize the sheer scope of the Mauser import after the war.There were FIFTEEN MILLION 98k rifles made, bolstered by millions of other Mauser variants, and a large portion of these rifles found their way into the US shortly after the war and in the decades afterwards.Those of you who were already into guns in the 1990-2000s and lived through the time when post Soviets were offloading entire warehouses worth of Mosins, well if you weren't 18 and working at McDonald's, you probably considered Mosins essentially firewood.Now take that stance and apply it to Mausers postwar.
>>61552429You dodged a bullet, at least he told you over the phone. Could've driven all the way to his place, seen him brag about his collection, and then only been offered a handful of beat up, shitty rifles to actually buy. Happened to a good friend last year.
What do Swedish mausers go for on average now?
>>61552429>owner's friend brings stuff into work to show him that he found in the attic of his father's house>tell him the para M1 is worth like $9k>tell him I'd be interested in the Type 14 that needs a total resto and the bayonet>call him later>oh I just consigned the stufftotal boomer death
>>61552467The market is slowing likely because people aren't panicking anymore, and the poor state of the economy is discouraging them from paying COVID pricing. What goes up must come down, to a certain extent. Now all we need is the social media and Youtube "influencers" to move on to some other hobby to fuck up and stop inspiring people to own surp as a status symbol.>>61554039What para M1 is worth $9K, are you bonkers?
>>61536415Any suggestions for tightening the front sight on a mosin? Shim + punch isn't working amazingly well. Maybe I need a bigger shim.
>>61554109https://www.centurionauctions.com/1943-us-inland-m1a1-30-caliber-1st-block-production-paratrooper-carbine-attracts-attentionI might have said $7 at the time, I forget. Prices were higher last year when I checked. It was non refurbished legitimate paratrooper carbine.
>>61554146For them to go that high is a rare occurrence of a particular low serial, great condition, non-updated rifle appealing to autists with lots of money. Highs don't dictate what most of them are worth. Most legit paratroopers are in the $3,000 - $4,000 range these days, up from about $2,000 - $2,500 pre COVID.
hello /msg/, I recently picked up this post-war P38 and I'm trying to make sense of the markings to learn more about when it was made and who likely carried it. do any of you guys know about p38/p1 markings and what dates they correspond to?the serial number is formatted 010xxxE. the right side of the frame, left side of the slide, and the barrel all have a proof mark(?) containing the number "165". the right side of the slide is marked "5/60". the frame, grip, and barrel all seem to be older versions (possibly from 1957?), while the slide seems to be a replacement made in 1960. anyone know if I'm correct or not?
>>61554022500-7/800 depending on condition
>1950 Tula SKS>looks late 50s refurb with grillmaster paint but otherwise in great shape>1200 rds of 3 96 headstamp 7.62x39 and 20 clips stamped "31">$800probably overpaid but cool rifle and a safe buddy for my WASR. has a moonrunes sling on it too.
>>61555272$800 for a ruskie sks and 1200 rounds of ammoThat's actually a good deal these days.
>>61555272Yea no in current year sub 1k for russian sks is a great deal + the ammo. Give yourself a pat on the back and maybe a fap, you did good.
>>61550134Czechmarks for you.
Might start hunting around for a Steyr-Hahn sometime. How often do you see 9mm Styer these days and how easy is it in terms of reloading. I reload plenty of other shit so not a big deal with whatever it might take.
>>61555752These Austrian dudes make a 9mm Luger barrels for those.https://www.igbaustria.com/product-169-170-212.html?language=en
>>61555272That's a very good deal these days
Grrr why are lebels so expensive
>>61557562Far fewer were imported and a great deal of them were sent to former colonies where they rusted into thin air instead of being sold as surplus on the market
>>61557562It is France embodied.
Finally got a Mosin, huzzah!
>>61558387Congratulations.
>>61558387welcome fren
>>61555737Czechmate.
>>61559031Fuggg.
Reminder that you don't hate Canada enough.
>>61560155unfathomably cringe, does Canada not have some kind of surplus program?
If you could go back in time and come back with ONE gun that would be considered surp these days, what would it be. Bare in mind it must conform to your local laws but if your local laws allow for NFA items than fine hopefully it and take ammo either available to you now (either purchased or reloading).
>>61561998Browning M1919I've wanted one ever since I got to shoot a belt at an MG shoot..30 cal nice and easy to find, good ole American parts, full fun allowed in my state. Whats not to like?
>>61561998Anyone who doesn't say MG42 has made the wrong choice.
>>61560155snowback genocide when?
>>61562447Day of the Rake can't come soon enough
>>61561998Probably one of the failed Pederson or Luger toggle lock rifles. Toggle lock is such a cool action but there's really only the Luger pistol as a widespread example of the action.
>>61562790Oh, I guess fantastically rare semi-auto prototypes wouldn't count as surp lol. Probably an SVT-38 since I love the cleaning rod running down the side of the stock and 54R is still commonplace.
>>61562430The MG-34 is honestly the nicer choice though.
>>61562430My state banned giggle funs and I don't have the disposable income to feed a 1200rpm 8mm Mauser MG.
>>61562790Isnt there only like one example of the Luger rifle in existence?
>>6156199840mm bofors AA gun.
>>61545306Found one on GB in 2022 for $5k, didn’t have the money to get it, I imagine they are much more now
>>61561998Belgian Model 1917 CSRG in 7.65x53mm Mauser, the one actually good Chauchat. I don't know if there are any surviving even in museums.
>>61562894Apparently, yea. Sold for 110k in the UK of all places in 1995 and disappeared. Can't imagine more than 10 ever being made. St. Petersburg Arsenal Artillery Museum apparently have Borchardt's toggle locking self loader.
Forgive my stupidity, but are USPS money orders safe? Like if some dude on gunbroker asks for payment using them and absconds with my money, will I be able to get a refund?
>>61564421>are USPS money orders safe?About as safe as it can get when you're not doing the exchange F2F.https://www.usps.com/shop/money-orders.htm
Is there a "cheap" place to get .577/450?I have this sneaking suspicion that this will be the caliber that gets me into reloading as it seems that 150 for 20 is about the going rate
>>61562430Nah, it's too expensive to shoot. Realistically I would be torn between a Suomi and an MP40 because you can still feed those relatively cheaply. If it came to whatever the average hobbyist can still get without a collector's permit I'd be boring and get one of those scoped G43 variants
>>61564421I've always heard that USPS money orders are practically guaranteed safe. The way it's described by other anons is like the post office will summon demons from Hell to go after whoever took your money. Never had to see it happen, so I don't know how true that is or not, but I typically do the exchange with confidence, and am very skeptical of sellers who don't accept USPS money order.
>>61564797>I typically do the exchange with confidence, and am very skeptical of sellers who don't accept USPS money order.>he doesn't exchange guns for Apple gift cards
>>61564797The post office doesn't give a shit about money order fraud.
>>61565091Have you had a bad experience with that? (Genuinely curious.)
>>61564797A friend of mine got scammed with one. guy never shipped the rifle and the USPS guys just shrugged and said too bad
>>61565091>The post office doesn't give a shit about money order fraud.Please avail yourself of the Justice.gov website. Type in USPS fraud.Many shits given....many
>>61565289Then why don't they do anything about it?
>>61565302Not him, but from what I understand they only care if it's a BIG sum of money or systemic. If it's just one money order for $1000 it's not worth the time/effort for them.
>>61543530I have a Type 38 carbine, it's a nice little gun. But it has a feeding problem, the rim of the cartridge won't slip into the extractor so it ends up jamming the tip of the bullet into the back face above the barrel. Any idea why this might be? Is it more likely to be a problem with the extractor or the ammo (I'm using Bannerman)?
>>61564532>Is there a "cheap" place to get .577/450?no, start reloading. You can form them with 24g brass shot shells
I don't get the soijacking over the Vis 35. It's a single stack with several redundant controls.Not even one of the best pistols with a German capture designation.
>>61565906It's niche and that appeals to a certain type of individual.
>>61564421Give it like 5 or 10 more years and all the boomers who cant handle anything beyond a check or money order will be gone and everyone will just be doing cards and zelle/paypal/venmo fuckign whatever.Conversely, for the time being, fuck the zooms who dont know how to write a fucking check and have a panic attack attempting to send things via physical mail.
>>61565685Could be the magazine, could be the bullet shape. Hard to really know without having the gun in question.
>>61565685Does this happen with every round you attempt to chamber or just the last one?
>>61536415I grew up in the early 2000s buying 70 dollar mosin and 50 dollar Nagant revolvers. Are there any similar deals now?
>>61567164nope not even rti sewer bore rifles are that cheap.
>>61567164No.
>>61567164Not even fucking close. Similar deals would be anything less than the current prices or mislabeled stuff marked way down. But nothing like a deal where you'd find a sub $100 Mosin or milsurp that isnt a "parts only" gun
What do you guys think of my 1912 Enfield No.1 Mk.III rescue? It was in an absolutely horrendous bubba'd stock, but otherwise fine. I thought about removing the DP paint, but I think it gives it character. And I kinna like the 'red, white, & blue' vibe with the sling. Say what you will about the DP furniture, at least it looks good now and it will be a fun shooter (bore looks great for 112 years old).With regard to the DP rifle I got the stock from- I put the DP rifle in the ugly Sporter stock, and now I plan on turning it into a floor lamp. It's a win-win scenario.
>>61567089Not the bullet, the problem is getting the rim into the extractor, probably not the magazine, as it takes a lot of force by hand to get it into the extractor.>>61567117Every round.
>>61567237Take the bolt out. Post pic of extractor in the bolt from the side then of the bolt face.
>>61567221>>61567203>>61567191I also fell out of collecting post coronoa, prices after i just checked are fucking insane. I cant take it
>>61567245claw facing toward camera in that first pic*
>>61567164Here in italy you can buy old beretta pistols or those armi jager AR things for 50-100€. You could use them only for plinking tho as they are often really beaten up. Or buy them for parts as sometimes it's cheaper than seeking out an individual part.
>>61567245From side. Can't see it very well since I left the extractor in the position it would be while picking up a round. Let me know if you want another pic with it rotated.
>>61567245And the bolt face.
>>61567222Anyone who undoes bubba's fuckery is a king in my book. It's a labor of love at this point with parts prices and scarcity. I am slowly restoring a Polish Mauser myself.
>>61567222Looks good, I rescued a no1 mk4 but it still has the fucking indian screw in the side. Yours seems t have the same.
>>61567164I had bought a nagant revolver for $70 with my C&R about 10 years ago, I sold it shortly thereafter, you'd be better armed with a slingshot and pocket full of ball bearings. Amazing they go for $400+ now.
>>61537590>MP5They already dropped it because they can't compete with Century/MKE>MP7 It's mostly already the 5.7 pistol they already developed so its not much work to make it.>STG44Already done mostly by HMG, they just bought them out. HMG is retarded for doing the whole multicaliber shit, should've just stuck to 7.62x39 as the single modern caliber.
>>61567350I agree haha, in double action the trigger pull on mine must be fucking 20lbs , unironically. Its a cool item to have though. I have a M44, M91/30 x3, and one of the matching PU Mosins that AIM sold over a decade ago. I somehow ended up a russianfag despite hating that cancerous hell of a nation.
>>61567329>>61567321hmmmmmmm. Nothing jumps out at me right away. As the other anon said without handling it and methodically testing all scenarios its tough to diagnose. Would be interested if you single load a round into the chamber then close the bolt on it does it extract?
>>61567401Yes it does, but I was under the impression that doing so isn't good for a controlled feed system.
>>61567089I had a similar issue with the tension on the extractor of a 1911. I would double check that. I know its an entirely different weapons platform btu it was the exact issue. I ended up polishing the face of the bolt and bending the extractor to loosen it and it fed fine ever since. >pic unrel
>>61567350>Amazing they go for $400+ now.I chalk that up to suppressed revolver memes, young commies who want to cosplay as the Cheka, or the most likely culprit, boomers doing what they do. Fired one years ago, wasn't impressed.
>>61567419Its not but to test whether the claw is seating on the rim correctly its fine. In some cases the follower may be pushing the round a little too high, its missing your feed ramp and hitting the barrel.Try other ammo than the bannerman, it might be the rims are too thick if we want to revisit "its the ammo" issue
>>61567460But ammo is so expensive :(Actually, after looking at it more carefully, it not the thickness of the rim, but the groove right above it that is making the extractor have to spring out in order to fit it.
>>61567345>a no1 mk4Do you mean a No.4 Mk1?
>>61567332>>61567345Thanks. Best of luck on the Polish Mauser.The screw doesn't really bother me that much, but if I'm ever bored I'll whittle a plug and glue it over.Coincidentally, it original came to me with the DP-painted mag. I guess it was just destined to end up in that stock. And also coincidentally >>61567345 I also have a no.4 mkI barreled action coming soon that I got for a great deal, mostly because I have a pretty nice stock set sitting around, albeit- also with an Indian screw.
>simply by placing my k98 in the back row of the safe I have made room for 2 more surpIts fuckin ON now.
>>61568255Gun safe Tetris is always fun.
>>61545813honestly with the prices of these things it might be worth it to save a few hundred and get a rasheed>>61544696i don’t collect a lot of bayonets my favorite three are Madden M47, Nork AK bayonet, and a Chasepot bayonet, which is more like a short sword.>>6154749620 century had plenty of race riots with torched cities, many of which were far worse than minneapolis during the summer of love. given how everyone has mostly moved on from George Floyd, BLM, and all the bullshitery affiliated with that it’s safe to assume people either have extremely short attention spans or nobody wants a repeat (yet).>>61551368i’ve always wanted a a 1903. finding a decent intact one is difficult and i can’t stomach sloppy sporterizations when there are till plenty of factory ones out there, even in calibers like .30-06.Your sporter looks nice. nothing beats the white spacers between the black end pieces on old hunting rifles.
>>61552429>>61554039>mom gets boomer client at work>his dad died in 1956>found some guns that weren’t sold over 60+ years ago>boomers find multiple winchester model 12s, 70s, and a couple S&W revolvers with holsters and a couple of other guns>all have been untouched since since the father died>boomer writes list and serials and shows it to mom, who sends me it>tell mom i’m VERY INTERESTED and to contact them>”okay okay geeze” >days pass by, ask mom what’s up>next time they call i’ll talk to him>more days pass>”turns out he and his siblings gave the guns to a local hunting club to auction off”>missed out a treasure trove of pre-64 winchesters and other old gunsstill hurts to this day
>>61567584yeah sorry>>61567663thats what i did, i took a part of the bubbad stock to replace it
>>61568741I should apologize because I am cursed with being both an autist and a pedant. It bothers me how often I hear the No. and Mk get mixed up with British rifles, as much as it pains me to hear people say "Swiss Mauser" or "Swedish straight pull."Easy way to remember is kind of to think of the Lee-Enfield like you would a videogame in a series. It has the number of its entry in the series (the No.) but then the software itself has an actual version number to denote where it is in its update history (the Mk.) So No.4 Mk1 would be like "RIFLE 4 (version 1.0)"
>>61568724entirely your moms fault. cant blame the boomers for moving ahead without knowing you were interested.The ones that suck the most are when they KNOW you are interested but disregard and do something dumb anyway. If you arent related or had any prior relationship with them than its somewhat understandable they might just do whatever. But when you've known them and formed even the thinnest of bond over their guns, that sucks.
>>61567553Upon further inspection, my spent cases all seem to have a very slight bulge on them about 1/4 to 1/3 inch from the base, should I be worried?
>>61568691>Your sporter looks nice.It's 51 years newer than the 03/14.
>>61569667how well do those 3d printed clips work?
>>61568255>>61568544No it fucking isn't, especially when you have both rifles with wood furniture and ones withoutScratching is inevitable
>>61569786They're a bit stiffer to operate but they're fine
>>61567222How accurate is it? Don't Enfields need some voodoo to fit the stock to a new rifle?
>>61570647Dunno it's accuracy, haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I did have to shave quite a bit of wood off the stock to get the magazine cut-off to fit, but otherwise no voodoo needed; it slipped right in.
>>61558387Congrats, mosins are hella fun. I like the iron sights on my k98 more but whenever I shoot it the barrel band comes loose
Should I get a $200 RTI nigger spaghetti rifle? I'm bored and need a dopamine hit
Had a dream last night with an Enfield of some variety in it. Don't remember most of the rest of it, but I think that this is a sign than an Enfield needs to be my next acquisition, even though I'd been looking for something more 8mm-y
>>61571014>nigger spaghetti
>>61571153Ethiopian Carcano or wherever they got them from
I’m at the WWII museum in New Orleans and chose the guided tour. The guide said that Japanese guns were poorly made. Didn’t go into much detail how but said they had a belief in bushido that the soldier was the weapon and the soldier was expected to learn to make the weapon work around him. I’d doesn’t make much sense to me that THE power in prewar Asia would make shoddy weapons, considering katanas were meticulously made when bushido mattered more. I’m sure later war had lower QA with wood, but was the metal work still up to par?
>>61571274Arisakas, even the super late "last ditch" ones, have amazingly strong actions. The finish took a massive hit and they stopped using chrome lining, but the mechanics never got skimped on. The whole "bad actions they go kaboom" thing is from fudds not understanding what a training rifle is and firing live ammo in them.
>>61571274Arisaka/Nambu Japanese rifles have perhaps the strongest receivers of any other rifle. That tour guide is sipping Fudd Koolaid.
>>61571274>>61571274Read picrel and learn, it's a fantastic book. Fuddlore is sadly par for the course at museums.
>>61571274Hatcher's Notebook covers the Arisaka action's resilience extensively through testing. It's an excellent book. Fuddlore is sadly all too common at museums.
>>61537138get one of the PSA remakes
>>61555272>20 clips stamped "31"run and run far far away unless the 31 has a circle around it
>>61570081Bro your gunsocks?
>>61566716fuck u too bud
>>61571562>gunsocksThe patrician choice.
>>61571560I just got a '57 dated Chinese Type 56 plus chest rig filled with ammo in picrel, all of it has "31" on the headstamp. What's bad about it?
>>61571727can you show a pic of how you attached the leather end of your sling? I'm trying to attach mine and it feels too stiff.
>>61571766I didn't put it on, came attached to the rifle, but sure. Leather is very soft someone took care of it.
>>61571727circle 31 are good stripper clips just 31 are cheap chinese knock offs that tend to be more frustrating than just simply hand loading ammo
>>61572019>>61571560my bad i mixed these up circle 31 is BAD chinese knock offplain 31 is good chinese surplus
>>61571941thanks, At least I know the proper folding. I'll try to soften it a bit
>>61570631Thanks for the info and demonstration.
>>61571274Arisaka rifles and carbines were great guns. Nambus and other pistols were ok.Some other small arms weren’t the greatest but if they were horrible japan wouldn’t have been able to much of what it did against the Chinese, British, ANZAC, Dutch, Americans, and more.Like what other anons have stated, FUDD LORE.
>>61571274Arisakas were the only service rifle of the war that had a chrome lined barrel.
>>61571274assuming anything anyone over the age of 60 tells you about Arisakas is complete bullshit fuddlore
>>61573242>Them Uh-riskas will explode if you try to shoot 'em because they're made of Chinese pot metal.>Wash yer hands after ya touch one because the Japs laced 'em with a poisonous finish so our Joes bringing them home would get sick and die.>They had aircraft sights because these silly Nips thought they'd be able to snipe down our planes.>Them dust covers rattled and gave off their positions, so the Japs just threw em away.
>>61573351>>61573242My local gun show has a pretty cool boomer that frequently sells Arisakas, and told me he's sick of all the boomer hate for Carcanos.>gechurself a Carcano, load it up with pervy partuhsan, and ah guarantee she'll shoot *plumb*
I took my p38 to the range for the first time today and I've noticed a problem. sometimes when firing the takedown lever somehow swings itself open and causes the gun to jam and lock up. does anyone know what might be causing this or what I should be looking at while trying to diagnose what exactly is wrong with it? I think the lever might be loose but I'm not sure which specific part might be worn down/broken in order to make it loose
>>61573435You'd think Boomers would hype up the Carcano as ""de JFK killur" instead of hating them.
>>61571274this reminds me, I went to the Virginia War Museum a couple months ago. It's pretty much just all milsurp. It's pretty much all American stuff until you get to WWI, then there are items from other nations. I highly recommend it.
>>61573435There's one guy who shows up at every big gun show in Pennsylvania, always has an easily recognizable blue table cloth over his table. He only ever sells Arisakas and they're usually fairly priced.
>>61574585If he also puts out a fuck load of M1 carbines, then it could be the same guy.
>see a good condition Mosin for sale on a forum for a decent price>claim it within 5 minutes of the post>some scumbag tried to buy it out from under me by offering more even though he was second>based boomer still took my offer since I was firstI'm just happy to finally have one, I've put it off for far too long.I still remember seeing ads at my nearest Gander Mtn. years ago when they were selling them for $99.
>>61574840Boomers are goofy, but they don't back out on deals. Unlike the current zoom zoom shitters, they were taught to act honorably.
>>61574880Yeah, I've only had one time where someone backed out on a deal with me when they offered me an old Pre-Ban AR pistolThey didn't really know what they had and threw a price at me that was much lower than the current going rate.I sent them the money and then I get a message a day later saying they now want $3000 instead of $1300, I told them to fuck right off.Jokes on them since I found one for even cheaper than that anyways.
>>61574880>Boomers>HonorableLol. I've seen plenty of boomers do some pretty snakey things/dodge out on deals. You can't paint with such a wide brush. >Used to rent tables with a boomer at gunshows.>We both spot a nice wartime P38 for $500, and he buys it, promising that when he's bored of it, he'll sell it to me.>Would bring it up every now and then, ask if he shot it, etc. and would joke "Just remember me when you're ready to let it go." >Had to go out of town one time and missed a show.>Other friend of mine tells me later that he put it out on the table and sold it for $1,000.>When I confronted him, he said "Oops, I forgot you wanted it."Here's another story if you want, in reply to >>61574920>Go to a gun show with a buddy.>A boomer walks in carrying an Inland M1 carbine and a "for sale" sign poking out of it.>Buddy asks the guy if he can look it over, likes it, asks how much he wants for it.>"I was thinking $700.">Buddy says he can do it, but he needs to go to an ATM to grab more cash (already spent a bit at the show.)>Boomer says he'll stick around and wait.>I go use the restroom and buddy hits the ATM, we reconvene about 10 mins later.>Boomer says "I talked to some of the the fellas here and they told me this is worth about $1,500. Can you do $1,300?>Buddy looks visibly irritated and says "You told me what you wanted and we already agreed on it.">Boomer says "Well yeah, but that was before I knew more about it. I bought the thing 20 years ago and didn't know what they're going for these days.">Buddy says "Look, I get it, but don't go throwing out a price, make me walk to the ATM, and then switch things up on me. A man doesn't do that to another man.">Boomer "I'm sorry, but I want what it's worth.">Buddy looks like he's done with the interaction and just before he walks away, boomer says "I can give you $50 for wasting your time.">Buddy looks at him in disgust and says "Are you serious?" and then just walks.
>>61574880>they were taught to act honorably.Try collecting militaria some time. You'll see boomers stoop to sickening new lows immediately. Half of them would sell you an expertly faked and aged Waffen-SS helmet made a decade ago for $15k, or a "MAC-V SOG attributed Randal knife" with completely doctored paperwork without a second thought. We just don't see it as often in gun world 'cause fakes are easier to detect and a lot more work goes into making it look truly convincing.
>>61575190something like that happened to me>buy STG-51 bayonet from militaria boomer at his shop>he brags on and on about owning Eva Brown’s panties, rare militaria, a statue from Mussolini’s work desk, how he has a Remove before flight ribbon from Paul Tibbet’s B-29, had sold a bunch of Nazi memorabilia to the holocaust museum, etc>see sign in his shop about returns >want to later return bayonet and get some uniforms i didn’t see in the back room until after i bought the standby bit that goes at the end of the gun>on the phone with boomer the next day>hmmmm let me call my son>he says we can’t do returns Oh, he also told me a story about how he had a WWII bring black japanese battle flags with names of jap soldiers all over it>he had an old man come into his shop a few days in a row just staring at it>didn’t talk to the old jap man >someone comes in a buys the flag when jap man isn’t there>old jap man returns with son>wants to buy flag>this is the unit flag that my father served with in WWII, his name is on that flag along with his former comrades> sorry I already sold it to someone elseOld cunt never bother to even chit chat with the elderly jap. You’d think he would figure out that if an old japanese guy repeatedly goes into your store to look at the same item, you would try and start a conversation? funny thing is, he’s a never served that never went to vietnam because he couldn’t hear high pitched noises. collecting militaria was a cope he did since the 1960s that turned into a job.
>>61575276>he’s a never served that never went to vietnam because he couldn’t hear high pitched noises. collecting militaria was a cope he did since the 1960s that turned into a job.If by chance said individual used to have a shop in south-central Pennsylvania and also has a beard, I know exactly who you're talking about and can't stand him.
>>61575337southern ohio, but he does have a beard
>>61574880Yea no. for every honorable boomer there is exactly one other who isnt. As described in posts below yours.Ive also had an equal amount of shit to excellent experiences with the zoomoids. If you interact enough with people in a wide enough spectrum you'll always run into an equal amount of shitters to nice ones
>all these youngins' that don't have a firm handshakeThis is why the boomers scam you.
>>61575669>he squeezed my hand hard i like himold people are really this gay
Since we are talking about it. What do you guys all think we'll be telling those little shits when WE become the boomers and are all old n shit selling our basic bitch Mosins to the young folks for $90,000?
since we're talkin about boomers being scummy>me and small group of friends go to small militaria show>table has a few sets of vintage commercial binocs>one of my friends is interested, looks at them a bit>asks the guy selling them (old but maybe young for a boomer)>he says something like $10-$15 for any of them>my friend is looking at them to decide which one he wants, testing them out, asking me for my opinion>meanwhile big boomer mcboomerson, king of all boomers (official title) was within earshot>shuffles over to the table starts looking at the binocs>my friend can't make up his mind and I tell him with the boomer right next to us "well you better think fast because this guy is gonna snake one out from under you">my friend takes too long and the boomer pays for the one my friend was gonna buy>while he was paying the seller said "what're you gonna do with those, look at naked girls through the window?">and the boomer simply replies in the most fat guy boomer voice you can imagine "bird watching"the show was a cool idea, its a club in my state that collects military stuff and its kind of like a little club swap meet every month. But everyone there was old as shit and exhibited typical boomer behavior. Nicest guy there was the vice president of the club who was one of the youngest there by at least 20 years, we got along because we had the same last name.
>>61575869I would hope at the very least that we wont be perpetuating fuddlore. I hope it dies out with the Boomers and Gen xers
>>61575882>shuffles over to the tableClearly too old to snatch those binos out of your friend's hand with his diabeetus fingers if he wanted to. I'd have done your bro a solid and just sacrificed an additional $15 to the dealer as proof you actually "bought" the pair your friend claimed first then walked the fuck away with them. Your buddy could've bought you a six pack of cheap beer later as a thank you, and both geezers would've forgotten what happened by next month. What a shit way to learn that lesson, I feel bad for y'all. George Carlin was right about these fucks: "Gimme that it's mine!!!!"
>>61574840Same. I was getting into guns when they were around 100 bucks. Wish i had bought then but I assumed they were always going to be cheap and available. Really want one now but for the money you can get a lot nicer guns, they're in the price range of most mausers I see. Still, being around /k/ in the peak of the nugget days and missing my chance then makes me want to get one now lol.
>>61575963>Be me>Be unfortunate NJ gun owner in 2011>Be poor as balls high school senior>At least I can afford get into surp.>Go to a shop in the hilly part of the state where all the vets live>Owner is cool and stays open an extra 30 mins while I shop.>"I got about 50 Mosins in the back, looking for anything in particular?">"A pre-war one would be nice">Here's a 1937 Tula hex receiver. $105 on the nose after tax">Do paperwork, NICS faggotry, pay, leave>Bolt absolutely will not close on a casing or live round, at all, for whatever reason>Bring gun back to shop next day>Show him what's wrong>Good guy owner heads to the back and reveals a brand new Mosin bolt head out of a parts box>Installs it, checks headspace, and throws the old one directly into the trash can across the shop.>"What do I owe you Sir?">"Just a photo from your first day at the range with it next time you drop by for a spam can of ammo. I'll call you when I get 'em back in stock. Go have fun kid."I still have the receipt from that Mosin in my sock drawer. I want to go back.
>>61575882Last time I ever bought a gun from a gun show turned out to be junk.>be me >go to a gun show>find a boomer selling a couple rifles and shotguns>Handle a Model 11 and after asking some questions decide to buy it for 275 off the guy >randomly drops the price as I'm handing the money>think he being nice and leave>go to gun range and try it out>works fine despite the super light trigger and accidental bump fires>Take it apart home and find the bolt cracked>cryBeen stuck with it since and I have no clue what to do with it since Model 11 bolts are expensive and I just don't really care for it anymore.
>>61576083>>61576222I think this is the thingBoomers are black or white, they're either wicked nice and want to see younger guys get into guns from their youth, or they're crooked nose penny pinchers that get high off of scamming people that don't know everything but still want to get into the hobby.Seems not many in between, at least that we can remember.
>>61576083Me too man. I miss the mosin threads and all it innawoods infographics. Should have saved more of them. Atleast I got my cheap sks.
>>61575869>i remember when we could get those Chinese SKSs for $500>6.7 Chink Destroyer is a meme round, all you need is 556
>>61576269>crooked nose penny pinchers...The funny thing about this is the good guy boomers regularly talk piles of shit about the scrooge types, and will gladly tell you who to run like the plague from at shows. And yet, the known fraudsters never actually get banned from setting up a table because the show owners like money and are terrified of the slightest bit of conflict, as if one widely known shitbag dealer ranting about getting permabanned from a show on some obscure collector forum will cut their show attendance in half lmao.
>>61575869>If it's German there's an 80% chance its been fucked with at some point by someone trying to scam you out of five figures or more.I swear there are more fake M38 FJ helmets out there than actual Fallschirmjäger who served in the goddamn war.
>>61575869>61575869▶>>61575890 >>61576318 >>61576406>Since we are talking about it. What do you guysLook here themmy. I dont know what virtual robo-Ian said on about this gun but its 1 of a kind. 345,000 RMB firm I know what I got
>>61575869given current demographic trends, my outlook on the military surplus and the overall collectors market for firearms is a combination of pessimism and uncertainty. Can I send my guns to Europe and ease my sorrows?
>>61576347I think gun shows are just dying so organizers don't want to turn people away. i.e. beef jerky, flags, other random non gun related bs
>>61576562this
>>61576562>345,000 RMB firmlol
>>61576626>beef jerkyI always buy a bag at every show I attend, so I never truly leave unhappy. Can''t wait to weep over what gun show tables look like going forward, now that the ATF has basically declared they can bust whoever they want for trying to sell one receiver without a FFL.
>>61562962I got mine w/ barrel for $3600 about 2 years ago.Still sitting in pieces, of course.
>>61576700What’s the holdup? No jig? No viable builders? Ammo availability? seems like a neat gun to have once competed
>>61576787Wait, i just now noticed the jig
>>61575869Look here kid. Back in the day some guy on the old internet website called the 4chan told me that this " moist nugget" is worth at least $500. So ill let you have it for $5,000 and ill thrown in some of this here space jerky for free.
>>61576838>space jerkyw-whats it made out of?
>>61571274If anyone ever gets the chance go to the Cody Firearms Museum in Wyoming do it. They've got some neat shit there. I'll drop a few pictures.
literal racks of guns on shelves
>>61576787Back burner project.
>>61575869>just become a boomer broI'm not jewing the next generation out of being able to buy guns for a tolerable price.
>>61578473Funny how the Japs even copied the single slot gas plug design of early Garands.
Anybody here speaks chinese?
>>61579441I'm a bit rusty and can't make it out very well, but I'll give you what I can.八五式 - type 85, then I cant make out the next 2 charsnext row I can make out 枪 which is gun then the last character 衣 which is clothingfirst row of digits looks like a factory number and year is 91
>>61579441>>61579630Type 85 Sniper Rifle Cover.
>>61579630>>61579856Thanks!
>>61576700>tfw no kits for STG44, MG34, MG42, and MP40Just kill me now.
>>61580101I've heard rumors that everyone's favorite supplier of clapped out guns from Africa is about to list a bunch of parts kits, ammo, and other stuff this summer. Anyone have an update?
>>61580373>import kits>picture shows a pretty good looking kit>box arrives>it's a pile of red dust that smells faintly of goat piss
>>61580648>he didn't pay the hand-select for pungent goat piss
>>61580648lmao yeah that's about what I'm expecting too
>>61580648You almost forgot Readiness Reviews makes another hundred videos trying desperately to convince us buying from RTI is anything but playing Russian Roulette with your fucking wallet, in his typical squeaky voice.
>>61581152In all my years of buying milsurp, I have NEVER bought from one of these sites where you don't see the exact item you're getting. I'd be OK with it if hand select meant you actually got to pick.
>>61576673I don't have a huge problem with it but people say you shouldn't buy from them because the more money you give them takes away from the gun show and eventually it will turn it into a flea market that sells some guns
>>61582429How does that make sense? It's not like people who go to gun shows are blowing their gun budget on like $10 of jerky, nor are the jerky vendors buying out tables that would have gone to gun vendors instead. Most gun shows aren't competitive for table spaces at all, and you'll never hear "Darn, I would buy that gun, but I spent all my money on jerky!"I've heard these complaints, and all I can attribute it to is grumpy boomers wanting it to be thousands of tables of nonstop guns like there were in the 60s, and blaming the jerky guy or the taser woman is easier than looking inward and blaming themselves for doing a shit job of passing the gun hobby torch down to younger generations whose interest could have been keeping gun shows more alive.
>>61582337I prefer buying in person because you can catch something wrong the seller may have honest to God missed or purposely omitted in their shitty photos. Hunting for this stuff in person is also just way more fun.
>>61582429>you shouldn't buy from them because the more money you give them takes away from the gun showI've literally never heard such utter trash in 15 years of collecting, but I also don't socialize with AARP members who make a habit of spouting bullshit. Grabbers and the ATF want to ruin your gun show, not the fucking exotic jerky vendor.
>>61581152>Readiness ReviewsI was wondering how long it'd be until I saw him mentioned in /msg/. I swear his angle has got to be "make RTI videos until they notice me and only send me the good ones."I'm only slightly jealous I didn't think of it first.
>>61583256>>61581152To be fair, most of his RTI reviews are "not worth it unless its on deep discount"
>>61576861Space cow, space turkey, space deer, space alligator. You know, typical space creatures you find here and there
I have a MIGHT NEED for a .303 that isnt a Lee Enfield
How much are SKS's selling for. Is $800 good for a Tula
>>61583770So a p14?
>>61583770R O S SOSS
>>61542054>>61542063>>61542107what do they use
>>61583865just the usual stuff. White paint, nail polish, cum, that sorta thing.
>>61583790$800 seems like a decent price for a Tula SKS judging by Gunbroker.
>>61583770Lee Metford.
>>61583770
Anyone know any good books for Siamese/Thai small arms?I've recently come into possession of a Type 38/88 Siamese Short rifle. It's a Jap type 38 in 6.5 Jap that has been arsenal refurbed into a short rifle in 30-06 by the Siamese. I want to find out was kind of load they were using so I can recreate it. I assume it is either M1 or M2 Ball. But I'd like to read up on it.
>>61583770Be a worthless contrarian hipster like me and get an Indonesian .303 conversion of the Dutch M95. Bonus points if you get a carbine that tries to model itself with either a rubber recoil pad or a muzzle brake.But on a serious note, P14. >>61541335Important stuff on logistics, rations, leadership, and operator guides on cool vehicles and equipment
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>>61583770What's gotten you so hot and bothered over 303, Anon?
>>61586710>he doesn't want to huff the fumes of burnt cordite
Shooting the old collectible
>>61587951Swiss?
>>61587987Ja
>>61588024You guys have such nice ranges.
>>61588042It's a blessing
>>61587951How do you like the diopter sights btw? How substantial an improvement do they provide to your marksmanship over the traditional irons?I love my K31 and have been thinking about getting a set of diopters. Not sure if I should go with the old original ones, or get the newer made ones from Swiss Products USA.
>>61562790>>61562839The Beijing Military Museum actually has a couple of these Pedersen Rifles on display. I think they may have been sent to China by the US during the Civil War Post-1945.
>>61588111It's especially good because of the ease to adjust on the fly in elevation and derivation, wouldn't go back to irons now for target shooting
>>61588067>can onky shoot at paper targets while proneSounds boring as fuck
>>61588930NTA but there are tibet ranges in switzerland that don’t cater to the targets shooting crowd. Target shooting is the company’s national sport so they’re the most popular of ranges.
>>61588930I like it
how much should I pay for a Chinese SKS
Is there a pastebin or something with the best sites to buy from?
>>61589063Compliment the seller until his opinion of you is over 90. Then offer him $20.
>>61589247theres an $800 Tula near me and just wondering how much of a premium Id be paying over a Norinco
>>61589063>>61589342I haven't kept up the best on SKS pricing, but from what I've glanced at on auction sites and at gun shows, Norincos are like $500, Yugos $600, Russians $800 - $900?This is coming from someone who got all those rifles for about half that back some years ago, so take it for what it's worth, because I haven't been the most hawk-eyed about it since then.Also I'd say Russians are generally the prettiest and highest quality, Chinese are built pretty well too and make the best shooters, and Yugos are kinda mediocre all things considered, but you can't beat the uniqueness of that grenade launcher.
>>61589342and $800 Tula is a pretty good price these days. I'd go with that. Chinks are $500
>>61589478>Yugos are kinda mediocreI have handled/fired six in my lifetime, five of them had shitty triggers. Two had this weird extra "step" idk what else to call it in the middle of the second stage that really tripped me up. Maybe I just had bad luck.
>>61589596They generally have the worst triggers of any SKS, and the wood on them is a bit chunkier, which is less comfy to me. (Seems like Yugoslavians liked the chunky wood because it's the same when comparing an M48 with a K98.) They also don't feel quite as solid in construction, and the grenade launcher makes it balance weird. Not a bad gun per se, just not as good as its Chinese and Russian counterparts.
boomers are fucking insane
>>61590402I wonder what goes on in the mind of these people?
>>61586710I already have a no1, my friend has a long lee and another has a no4. I want something different.>>61587468I have my Martini Henry for that
>>61590557>I wonder what goes on in the mind of these people?hmmmmmm, lemme spend about 5 minutes seeing what I should charge....<checks RIA Auction closing bid price> Yup, thatll be good.
>>61590737Doesn't help when shit like picrel happens, one of these was scrubbed too. I have a sportered Wz29 on the way, made it my mission to restore. Already bought a replacement stock, handguard, and hardware. I will still be well under half this RIA auction's hammer price when all is said and done. Utter fucking insanity.
>>61590743A comment section for listings I feel would solve ALOT of issues. also maybe create a few more but would be worth it.
>>61590929There was a fantastic and genuinely funny thread months ago about how to fix gunbroker if you redesigned it. Forcing sellers to accept comments on listings was one of the most commonly proposed ideas.
>>61590671>>61583770Anything that is not a sporterized enfield is going to be expensive.P-14Winchester 1895RossNo.5 Jungle carbine (Still a Lee Enfield, but it's different enough IMO and it's a beaut of a carbine)
new bread >>61591532>>61591532>>61591532
