Monthly Whalehttps://mangadex.org/chapter/d39815cb-5fa1-452b-bc4b-d52c7b4eae24
>>46720003I'm surprised anything happened, but am happy about things happening and that it was a trap.I hope Miko puts Suika and Mamizou in their place.
>>46720003Huh it's out?
So...Tojiko's gonna show up to catch Aya in a trap too, right?R-Right?
The more I read these "canon" touhou mangas the more I see the characters in an obnoxious way and the more I believe the outside world should nuke gensokyo
>recent CoLA's chapter mentioned the schism between youkai faction about Outside World human>Mizuchi's grudge in CDS>The upcoming Hifuu teasing the Merry-Yukari connection>now thisEvery goddamn print works are now emphasizing youkai-human relationsWhat the fuck is that drunkard planning????
>>46720059Is this the most undressed boob we've seen in touhou?
>>46720070his wife is pushing him to make lewdsokyo real so this is all the build up to giving every youkai a human husband
>>46720070Oh man, the anti-Miko people in the "Kasen" thread are going to have a stroke.
>>46720067good news anon, unlike previous depictions which made us think all youkai are assholish toward outsiders, some youkai have enough braincells to prefer not fucking with outsiders, out of fear of retaliation from the Outside World, so they know they aren't as invincible as they think themselves as
I want to rape this retarded whore so much is unreal. I want to fuck Futo raw so hard so passes out.
>>46720059>>46720070So I guess we're in the whale's endgame now? Because it seems it's their equivalent of WaHH's Arm-chan arc and VFiS' Okina arc
>>46720070Touhou 20 plot will be youkai invading the Outside World
>>46720003ZUN really goes out of his way to not show any action huh?At least marisa and futo cute
>>46720122I love her SO MUCH. SO fricking MUCH!
How can Byakuren compete with this peak of human condition?
>>46720236Byakuren doesn't polish her sword on the daily
>>46720149Seems unlikely, a civil war between Youkai librals and conservatives however unlikely is probably more likely than that.Afterall, the only thing the two agree on is not wanting Gensokyo yo be the outside world and they all focus on gaining power inside of Gensokyo.
>>46720003Sure is a lot of people just talking about stuff that's happening instead of just showing it. Did Marisa really need to be in this chapter?
>>46720059Why does she laugh maniacally every time something goes her way?
>>46720155>>46720274CDS is the battle shonen manga you looking for, whaletits are pure SoL
>>46720274>Did Marisa really need to be in this chapter?Yes
>>46720275She always makes sure to just have fun.>>46720281You can have slice of life that isn't just a magician and a miko talking about much more exciting stuff happening to other people elsewhere.
>>46720292glad someone gets it
See, when I say that I want the action to be shown, not talked about, this is what I mean.
>>46720236The monk are able to keep up with the funny UN Owen girl, simple as
Oh boy, I can't wait for Suika to effortlessly beat the trap designed for her and nothing to change.
>>46720275She takes simple, honest joy in victory.
>>46720275She's a nobility, laughing manically is a part of the parcel
>>46720003MIKO IS SO FUCKING COOLMarisa's impersonations were pretty cute too
>>46720366I hope Miko and Co. kick the shit out of them
>>46720361I'm mad Miko didn't fight in the battle shonen manga. She's got the coolest set of powers and aesthetics bar none.
>>46720416anon, she's probably going to get reimu to team up with her for aya, it's no coincidence that she's completely unmentioned in this chapter despite being the other big player at geidontei
My wife better not job
>>46720441Sorry, man. Mamizou's getting taken down a peg.
>>46720451better than the alternative when it comes to Mamizou and pegs
>>46720441Don't worry anon it's not Satori's Jobbing Extravaganza manga
>>46720441This statement could apply to anyone in this situation
>>46720471It's actually Miko talking about the ambush on Suika.
I just realized that while her oni friends and sage coworker still get a lot of screentime, Kasen is pretty much forgotten...
>>46720496She's hard to write please understand
>>46720441I hope Suika jobs.She really needs to just totally eat shit for once.
And miyoi is sidelined once again
>>46720236*pours a combination of vinegar salt and hydrogen peroxide on the sword*
>>46720366I say it before, I say it againThis artist's depiction of Suika is so fucking cool it's unreal
>>46720496She had her own fucking Manga. In terms of screentike she shits all over her Oni friends and Okina combined.But you're right, I fo want to see more of Kasen
>>46720003Miko single handedly saving this manga.
>>46720122>>46720177
>>46720236>>46720323crown prince's naked body...hah... hah...
>>46720323>OFFICIAL implication of 2hus doing stripteaseAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>>46720323Lewd manga
suika getting a glimpse of miko-sama's bush
>>46720323I want Reimu to do one of those shrine maiden dances nude for me
>>46720323
>>46720323The extra notes at the end already explained it anon, that sword is the actual body of MikoShe's unsheathing it and waving it around is basically her dancing while naked
>>46722548Yeah and they also said that it was Eirin who suggested the First Stripping. But it's funnier taken out of context.
>>46722548Now I want more sword swinging action
Where's miyoi?
>>46724069Who?
>>46722548Miko brats people up with her naked body?!?How lewd!!!!
>>46724328This manga is too lewd
>>46720366Suika's had one fight before in this manga, it was an offscreen one vs Toutetsu that she lost
>>46724933Why are all Oni's such jobbers?
>>46720070>What is that drunkard planning????Nothing.>But what i-No.>I really think h-Not happening.He feeds on your hope. Accept it and move on.
>>46724933When did this happen??
Just remembering that Miko is the Donald Trump of Gensokyo
>>46726796FYI that was quite literally fake news.
>>46726700The same chapter where reimu jobs to yuugi
>>46724069She doesn't say anything
>>46727343the chapters that miyoi isn't in (or at least doesn't have a speaking role in) are the best ones
>>46720070Lately, everyone is calling out Reimu for allowing Youkai to roam freely in the village, damn.
>>46727470Miko also kind of does it in SoPM if I remember correctly, she doesn't want bloodshed, fighting, or any real discrimination despite the way she acts.She does the things she does because she believes she has to do it and doesn't want Youkai she considers evil to abuse the system, so Youkai coming to the village is fine to her as long as they have the bare minimum in disguise, heck she'd pribably personally prefer integration and the youkai treating the villagers nicer if she believed it was viable.
>>46727519>You claim to want to exterminate youkai, and to create a human-only world. But what you truly desire is a peace that doesn't require violence, don't you?people always go on and on about how reimu's completely under the youkai's control here as if she's perfectly fine with it when it's always been very clear that she would prefer everyone to be nice to each other
>>46727539reimu, pleaselast chapter the t*nuki plotted and stole right under your nose
>>46727539I think the Hakurei's, as a group, are totally under the control of Youkai. Reimu might be the only redeemable one of the bunch because she is genuinly too dumb to use her position for evil. Most actual criticism of her comes from people like me that think the status quo of Gensokyo is evil, not people that are genuinly pro-Youkai.
>>46727807>status quoit's not like Reimu can do much against it. though it's just annoying to see her getting outplayed by Youkai and she just rolls with it like it's another day in life
>>46727470I'm betting that the ultimate conclusion will just be that this is actually a good thing and that Reimu's laziness actually makes her perfect for Gensokyo.
>>46727841my crackpot theory is that the eventual endgame of this is working back to the PMiSS style village
>>46727822why does she get putplayed? many of the schemes of the greater youkai are really retard in retrospective.
>>46727807>she is genuinly too dumb to use her positionLazy not dumb, key difference. She is smart in the subjects she knows, like anyone else. The thing is that is blatantly ignores brewing incidents because she is a naive teenage girl who wants us all to just get along without fighting, and ignores that she knows its impossible.
>>46728729>Lazy not dumb, key differenceNah, she's dumb as well.>She is smart in the subjects she knows, like anyone elseWhich are? >>46727822How much she could do against it mostly depends on how replaceable she actually is. Canon generally seems to indicate she is, to her credit.
>>46728784shrines, religious days, rituals, how faith affects luck, knows practically every god aside from her own (likely because the shrine doesn't have any records) youkai extermination techniques, sealing techniques, and festivalsoff the top of my head
>>46728801Your forgetting she a Youkai nerd, she personally rated Nue a 10/10 just due to being a famous Youkai.
>>46727870I don't think it's that much of a crackpot theory. It seems reasonable if you put it in the perspective that the Gensokyo Chronicles is a finished document and ergo represents a future that hasn't happened in any other printwork or game yet. PMiSS and SoPM (with Symposium being more about the past and speculative future) are only small parts of the document we readers can see. Gensokyo becomes such a peaceful place where Akyuu speculates if her continued reincarnation is necessary as her reason for reincarnating—the war between Humans and Youkai—has all but ended in name and Youkai hunters aren't her audience anymore. If we assume that ZUN isn't a hack, the printworks and games are a medium to explore the trials and tribulations Gensokyo takes to get to the ideal future; the journey is far more interesting than the destination. Maybe he was playing 4D chess with us the whole time as he's stated "Gensokyo is idyllic and pastoral, and is a 'peace-addled' kind of a world," or the alcohol made him forget. We'll only know for certain once we get there.
So apparently there are youkai exterminators within the human village but we don't know anything about them or what they do.
The Hakurei miko have been groomed for generations to just let the youkai do as they please and only occasionally interfering to keep up appearances.Don't blame Reimu, blame the system that created her.
>>46728840Buddhism and Taoism in Gensokyo are also a scam, Byakuren preaches about peace but let her youkai run rampant and doesn't bat an eye about what they do, while Miko doesn't actually give a frick about her disciples and just use them as couriers to do her bidding.
>>46728823I don't think it's some 4d chess maneuver, with how he's talked about it before, I get the feeling "grimsokyo" just came about naturally, while PMiSS is something he's had in mind of working towards now.>>46728830Source?
>>46727870Given how casually weirdos like Hecatia and Clownpiece can move about the village, I'm not convinced that the villagers can even recognize any youkai.The series is kind of inconsistent in how the human village is approached, since sometimes the youkai keep their distance (such as the kappa in FS), and other times they'll casually sell stuff there without a worry (CDS).
>>46728840Wait a minute. Who...?
>>46728864It's just the way ZUN about things so casually. "Kisume eats people lol it's not even her real head"
>>46728900The way I headcanon it is you're either well known or powerful and don't bother with a disguise, or your some small fry youkai and put in some bare minimum of effort. The villagers know there's youkai in the village, but it's faux paus to bring it up because technically they're really not supposed to be there and pointing it out just causes problems. Either you cause a scene and then someone has to go shoo them out, or you let the three kappa in an overcoat go along with their business and pretend their disguise is foolproof. Yes, everyone can clearly see the goddess of several hells is sitting and chatting with her pet fairy, what are you going to do about it? Nothing, that's what.
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>>46729041I really like this Futon, usually she looks to young when she's supposed to be a granny, a short granny but a granny none the less.
>>46720361Byakuren is so badass!
>>46720361>keep up with the funny UN Owen girlThey were very explicitly play-fighting there, though.
>>46728900A group of villagers chat around thinking how odd a unknown human with cat ears and a tail just examining a dead body by the river is, and only when they think really hard that a unknown human picking up dead bodies is suspicious do they think that maybe Rin is a youkai.They must think youkai all look like that found in that Edo period book where they are all ugly abominations or something.
>>46729463They aren't terribly smart Anon, please understandKiene can't cure retardation.
>>46729564Keine probably participated in the centuries of selective breeding required to create the perfect, easily controllable morons that make up the human village these days.
>>46729463I feel like the funnier part of that is just like...Why were the villagers even there? that's way off in the mountains, since that stream looks like the one from stage 3 of MoF and reimu had to travel a fair distance to get to it. Why were all these humans wandering off into the mountain just to watch a cat load a body into a cart? How did they even find out about it? Aya shows up after that
>>46729577They literally just went their to shit on Orin.
>>46729346sure it's not the actual death battle, but ran ran ru is there to overwhelm her opponent so that they used their signature abilities, and yet the violet milk truck shown to have the upper hands for the entire fight
>>46729577The Kappas had a really great garage sale, please understand
>>46729591>Sneak attack her twice>two on one when they went outside>upper handnot even a Flan fan but come on now
>>46729681>but come on nowyes
>>46729717Trust Byakuren to go overboard in a play fight.
>>46729913Flandre deserve it, for being a FightaFag and charging headstrong to 2 youkai exterminators, the brat
>>46730471It's just a very Byakuren thing to do, is what I'm saying.
>>46727519>>46727539>>46727807>>46727822>>46727841I feel like you guys are giving her a bit too much credit. The simple answer is that Reimu doesn’t really care that deeply about anyone or anything else, she’s a detached weirdo at best and doesn’t really even have any deep relationships if we go by what ZUN describes her as. It’s why she so easy to forgive so many incident starters, she’s not that attached enough to home that much of a grudge. The only exception (and the only time she ever actually slayed a youkai on screen) was the fortuneteller, and that was because he dared to go against the rules of Gensokyo and threatened her way of life and status. Reimu likes Gensokyo the way it is, it’s why bringing up the youkai are in charge mildly annoys her. She likes the way things are because they benefit her, anyone that threatens that get shown her true colors
>>46730471I mean she's still not the one who destroyed the temple.
>>46730561>I feel like you guys are giving her a bit too much credit. The simple answer is that Reimu doesn’t really care that deeply about anyone or anything else, she’s a detached weirdo at best and doesn’t really even have any deep relationships retard
>>46730605Don't call her that! She's mostly just sheltered.
>>46729913Nigga Marisa could've easily die when Flan doing a "play fight" with her, Byak's getting overboard is just an excuse by Flan getting her ass kicked from here to Saturday
>>46730605Her detachment as a character goes so deep her literal super power is just her running away from the whole world and being completely untouchable. It’s not exactly subtle what her true personality is.
>>46730497>>46730568she still was an insuferable brat this was much needed, now what strikes me is that flandre, even with a "nordic" magic weapon (wand/sword), could not even tear or land a hit on byakuren. this shows that flandre is not that proficient in swordmanship. (which makes sense, as it requires martial discipline ,practice and patience, 3 things that the Scarlet sisters don't usually have) youmu could have given flandre a run for her money
>>46730996Flan's ability is the equivalent of Killer Queen (minus the need to touch targets), pris understando
>>46726700Chapter where Reimu lost to YuugiToutetsu is never mentioned directly but Suika retells her fight to Miyoi at the end
>>46731465>toutetsu is never mentioned directlyshe is mentioned directly, shown directly, and suika 'retells' her fight using a spork and a sake bottle and yelling WHAM BAM
>>46729577Youkai Mountain really had no attractions for humans before MoF... but in that very game the Moriya folk move there, and they're always trying to get more visitors. I don't think it's all that hard to justify a couple humans turning up to rubberneck an apparent dead body and some weirdo inspecting it.
>>46733052yeah but at the same time we're told repeatedly that the moriya shrine ISN'T getting any visitors and faith from humans and they were reliant on the tengu and kappa for faith when they showed up, and it wasn't until the ropeway was constructed in WaHH that they started getting human visitorsthe mountain was always off limit to humans because the tengu were too territorial and people like hina would drive off any humans who wound up there because it was too dangerous
>>46733116Humans are known to leave offerings at the shrine near the Giant Toad's pond, which grants them protection from the mountain youkai on their way back, at least.Youkai Mountain should be getting at least some human visitors even before Kanako set up shop.
Youkai walking around is fine and all. I just hate how these two act liky they own the village.
>>46733224I want to bribe the giant toad into voring more fairies.
>>46733371They're friends now.
>>46730561So Reimu has Antisocial Personality Disorder?
>>46736826She's autistic Anon, the fact if to have her be an actual psycho you need to ignore alot of other stuff Reimu does or only bring attention to her negative aspects.Although she has trouble understanding or connecting with people she's not incapable of feeling bad for other people and does what she believes is right.
>>46733681frog rider
>>46736937Honestly how often does Reimu feel legitimately bad for someone? Even with Marisa she’s often pretty comical if something bad happens to her, hell she’s willing to literally kick the ass of everyone that even remotely annoys her, even if said person did nothing wrong.
>>46737071Anon, it has literally been stated the reason she acts the way she does is to avoid people fighting and killing each other, she's just bad at showing it.
>>46737102>Avoid people fighting and killing each otherBuddy she literally states she doesn’t care about mind unnecessary killing and she’s literally been told my the Yama she’s too violent >>46730561
>>46737399exterminate doesn't mean kill in a youkai context, it's a situation where there's never been a great word to convey the meaning
>>46737399The literal mind reader says she avoid violence so much, that she allow Youkai to roam free in the village.
>>46737405Eiki clearly means she’s too violent and making excuses to hurt people in full context, also the extra bit where she talks about exterminating things that aren’t even youkai. Even if it just means beating people up that’s still not “avoid fighting” >>46737411Her being lenient to some youkai and not others is spelled out in FS, if they got power and work within the system she’s hands off, random youkai or people that go against the system? Insta-death at worst, ass beating at best.
>>46738207The Fortune Teller?The narration tells us why she killed him, she considers what he did an abomination that can't be tolerated.Something that'd disrupt the balance or whatever.Also Eiki isn't saying she's making excuses to hurt people, she's saying Not to mention PoFV is super old and is way outdated with things like a more introspective Cirno, no mention of Tewi and her schemes against the loonies, a harsher Reimu when in cannon it's said by smart characters like Eirin that's she actually kind hearted.Heck Marisa performs a more merciless action by killing a relatively harmless minor baby youkai.
>>46738341>Heck Marisa performs a more merciless action by killing a relatively harmless minor baby youkai.[citation needed]
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>>46738341She killed him because he threatened the stability of the slave driven Gensokyo by showing you can escape from the villages power. It’s even directly mentioned that Reimu has no problem with other youkai (even humans turned youkai) existing in Gensokyo… only villagers aren’t allowed to become youkai because she’s the equivalent of prison guard. If the Fortune Teller was exactly the same but he was from the outside world she wouldn’t bat an eye at him.> it's said by smart characters like Eirin that's she actually kind hearted.Erin’s a psychopath who not only regularly abuses her pets but was part of a race that things being pure includes fantasizing about genociding the entire human race for the hell of it, not a great judge of character.
>>46739006>Erin’s a psychopath who not only regularly abuses her petsYou do realize the gag manga and shitty fanfiction isn't cannon right.
>Byakuren beating the shit out of Flandre and bloking a fucking sword strike with her arm>Miko finally using her sword/herselfHow long until those 2 finally fight?
>>46739121In 2 weeks.
>>46739121Never. ZUN is a hack who robbed us from seeing Suika vs Toutetsu, what is stopping him from doing the same with Byak vs Miko?
>>46737411Eiki can see all your past via her mirror so who do I believe?A explanation for these inconsistencies might also be because Reimu too Eiki's word to heart and change her ways
>>46739055Eirin abusing Reisen happens outside of that comic and the lunarian shit is literally super canon. Either way, still not a better judge than the literal Yama. >>46739907>Took Eikis message to heart Yeah
>>46741308Eirin was just one example, literally every character who has a good understanding of Reimu since then has called her surprisingly kind hearted.Besides, being formerly evil doesn't make you suddenly unable of making moral judgements or determining someone else's character.Also adding processed sugar to mochi isn't abuse.
>>46741466>Also adding processed sugar to mochi isn't abuse.You monster.
>>46741466But thats the thing, nobody really knows Reimu all that well at all, its one of the big things about her character is that her true intentions are kept secret from pretty much everybody except the audience and some key characters. Even the entire deal with the fortune teller was kept pretty much secret by everybody including her close friend Marisa, who even she admits doesn't always get what Reimu is trying to do. Eiki however can truly see into a persons past and what actions they took and the person she presented (assault/killing youkai and non youkai alike) isn't all that out of left field from little miss "I don't care about mindless killing" we've seen in recent works. And in a world where the default personality for all the main characters is at best despicable con artist who would steal candy from a bay to super murderers who kill hundreds of people for shits and giggles, "suprisingly kind hearted" doesn't mean much.
>>46744715Your weighing a single quote from 19 years ago, very literally every mastermind type character since then judging Reimu as being surprisingly kind hearted.Including a literal mind reader who says she does what she does to avoid needless killing.
>>46746280Except thats literally disputed by her own words and actions against the Fortune Teller, who even said wasn't going to do jack shit and just live in the forest without any contact with humans, and Reimu straight up tells him shes doesn't mind mindless killing. Her own words, plus the Yama having a direct link to the soul saying she's too fuckin violent. All the other mastermind characters could also just manipulating her or saying complete bullshit, especially since all of them are scummy con artists who lie about literally everything.
>>46739006>>46739055>>46741308>>46741466Eirin murdered Kaguya's foster parents without the latter's awareness so she could have Kaguya for herself.
>>46751577Yes, but Reimu's mind has literally been read and we know she avoids unnecessary violence.She also considers Humans becoming Youkai something she'c can't tolerate since it will disrupt the balance in her mind.There's clear logic there, if Humans are allowed to become Youkai Gensokyo will be destabilized thus she must stop Humans from becoming Youkai and kills the ones that do no matter what.Because in her mind, destabilizing Gensokyo will lead to greater conflict, which she want's to avoid.
>>46741308>>46739006Also Eirin was really close to murdering teh Patcho in cold blood.
>>46751722Except we know thats bullshit, even the fortune teller pointed out that plenty of the people Reimu hangs out with are youkai, some of them human turned youkai, and she has no problem with them existing or causing problems for humans. Reimu killed the Fortune Teller because he threatens the balance of Gensokyo and her position. She doesn't actually care about humans becoming youkai, only if the villagers do, because if the villagers figure out a way to leave the village then the youkai run out of food. She does the bidding of the youkai because they are the ones in power and shes basically their bitch, even Marisa blantantly points this out. It has nothing to do with the idea that she cares about the village or the people in it, she does whatever the wims of the powerful tell her to do, consciously or not.
>>46753648Yes, Reimu killed the fortune teller because she thought his existence threatened the balance of Gensokyo, that's exactly what I'm saying.And she thinks the balance is important because keeping it prevents what in her mind is unnecessary killing, the balance she protects is the current spellcard era of Gensokyo.Before the current era things were more dangerous, this much is clear, so Reimu protects the current order as it's better than the alternative to her, also if she didn't care about humans she wouldn't save outsiders or go out her way to stick her nose in their business, the entire reason Yukari did what she did in FS, not to mention in ULiL during her and Sumi's route when ZUN says we're seeing the real Reimu, she's down right heroic and just wants to save everyone and prevent Sumi frim dying.
We're just a few posts away from ontologically being said.I hope you enjoyed your thread while it lasted.
>>46757731Grimsokyo always wins.
>>46730561Eh, the average villager isn't exactly the kind of person you could really care for; the kind of rat-racing blue collar hick who is proud to be ignorant, xenophobic, and used by their betters so long as there exists someone even lower on the rung for them to take their frustrations on. Fortune Teller was special not because he was a yook, but because she finally had an excuse to drop him.
>>46759480The fuck are you talking about?Every villager is shown as being abnormally pleasant, decent, and friendly. The worst crimes they committed was "Eating a horse". Compared to Youkai, they are fucking saints.
>>46759684He's talking about fairies, he'd mad about the villagers not liking fairies.
>>46759699Human villagers are apparently supposed to be kind of mean towards fairies but we literally never see them and nothing actually seems to imply they would threat Cirno or the Fairy of light as anything more than spoiled children. I doubt they would get a worse punishment than a spanking and this is despite the fact their pranks can and most likely have killed people by the very same sources that claim villagers sometimes mistreat them.
>>46759749Cirno's probably more likely to be a threat to Wakasagahime than any villager anyways, since she eats mermaids.
>>46759684They'd certainly put on a big smile while watching their overseers eat you on the spot if it means a fancy new privilege or bobbin. Consider for all their bluster of fearing youkai, they accepted the zashiki-warashi with open arms while the ten honest men were becoming ten honest meals to fuel the system. Fortune Teller is a symptom of the problematic relationship the village has with yook-kind where youkai are seen more as a social status than monsters to be hated and feared; the damiyo has wings and magic powers now, but at least their youkai hunter ancestors were willing to engage the damiyo as warriors and not peasants.Though we hear that the Human Village is allegedly open to whatever outsider manages to find themselves there after a night of being hunted like game, we never actually see anyone from the outside chose to live there. Thus, to blame the Hakurei for being too lenient on Youkai when the village has openly intertwined them with their politics is little more than a hypocritical smoke screen for their system of modest luxury running on practical human sacrifice.>>46759699Between you and me, I personally think the fairies brought their situation on themselves. They and their proprietors may winge at mistreatment by the hands of humans, but the three fairies show if you're willing to play by the rules, you're allowed inside. The fairies could had taken the zashiki-warashi's place as the household spirits of the village, but instead they chose to serve under a foreign vampire broad. Fairy/Human conflict is another distraction that keeps the driving forces of Gensokyo distracted from the bitches getting fat on top from the blood of outsiders.
>>46759848>They'd certainly put on a big smile while watching their overseers eat you on the spot if it means a fancy new privilege or bobbin.Zero evidence for that. By all accounts they treasure outsiders and would protect them as much as they could.>Consider for all their bluster of fearing youkai, they accepted the zashiki-warashi with open arms while the ten honest men were becoming ten honest meals to fuel the system.Technically we don't know if that was happening at the same time.>Though we hear that the Human Village is allegedly open to whatever outsider manages to find themselves there after a night of being hunted like game, we never actually see anyone from the outside chose to live there.Mostly because most outsiders aren't that dumb. Sanea is threated well though, partially because she is a are outsiders.
>>46759848Villagers have never been shown to be anything more than hopeless idiots blissfully unaware at worst, to kind and helpful people at best. It’s what makes the tragedy of them being constantly screwed over so bad. And yeah no shit no outsider wants to live in the village permanently. It’s a 1860’s era Japanese village with no plumbing or electricity that’s like an internment camp, a fucking bombed to shit Palestinian child wouldn’t choose to live there
>GrimsokyoKill yourself nigger.
Why do people keep assuming that "every" nonhuman character in touhou need human belief to exist? I always thought that it's limited only to youkai and shinto gods
>>46761640Well, simply because there are no fairies around in the outside world anymore.
>>46761640I suppose, that beings like the Yama, Celestials, Hermits, Lunarians, and Spirits would still be able to have their existence intact if they were to be in the outside world, but their abilities might change due to the differences in how the laws of the world work here (there is no mana or magic)
>>46761675and also it's unclear whether afterlife realms in general rely on human belief to exist or if they operate independently, Hecatia's wording that there is a hell for the Earth (outside world) suggests that they don't, but it's unsure.
>>46761690It's made more complicated by the fact that most major religions WOULD still provide enough faith for a outside world hell to exist.
>>46761640even if they do, we have no idea how human belief works with their existence. Like, do they need 20 human belief points to survive the months? what's 1 human belief point and how much does a human have to believe in you to get one? for all we know, if every human disappeared, the youkai might still have an unspecified amount of time before they disappeared too
>>46761640It does seem that Gensokyo slapped down in the middle of what could be considered a highway connected to multiple metaphysical realms allow a lot of these people to interact with the mortal plane.Someone like Tenshi or Komachi don't need belief, but they are not going to talking to living beings and partying without Gensokyo.
>>46761724Gensokyo is just a playground that Tenshi occasionally comes down to, and Komachi just happens to have ties with Gensokyo because she works for the Yama that is assigned to that specific realm>>46761675I support this, they would still be able to do supernatural shit but their powers would be entirely different than being powers that come from belief
>>46761675my interpretation is that those wouldn't cease to exist but their nature would change according to our world, for example tenshi would probably get some sort of transformation that would better fit our definition of what an "angel" is, eiki would transform into something that fit what our world's definition of an afterlife judge is, and so on.
even the lotus eaters threads are idiots arguing over canon now
>>46761847go back to your coomer thread if this thread is bothering you too much, nobody's forcing you to stay
>coomer
>>46761179Anon the village has electric lighting and running water.
>>46762887Where did they show that? Hell, we don't even know how Gensokyans even take a bath.
>>46761640That's quite literally not the case because shit like the SDM exists or mamizou.
>>46763047Anon... do you even read Lotus Eaters?
>>46764548Not him, but why should anyone read it, or CDS, or anything at this point? What's the point of it anymore?
>>46765738because it answers that question you dumb fucking retard
>>46765782Rude. Not going to read it then.
>>46764548I don't remember them having any of that.
>>46768631Anon... how do you think the bar Runs, does Suika have a dozen miniature her's running it's water. Did she build it's sink as well?
>>46768644Do you think they had no bars before they had running water?
>>46770926Did they have stainless steel sinks as well?
Not saying that they do but I wouldn't be surprised if there is plumbing in the village, just so the kappas have easy access to water source whenever they're doing something there.
>>46770932They sometimes had iron sinks, yes. You don't need indoor plumbing to understand the principle of a sink.
>>46768644I mean they’re magic demons who have access to bottles with infinite alcohol, i didn’t think indoor plumbing was guaranteed.
Wasn't fallout 1 full of references too?
>>46775479Wrong thread and wrong board... A new low....
>>46775479Bro how do you fuck up that bad?
>>46772556Unless I start seeing a toilet and a Touhou shitting in it, I’m not believing it.
>>46772556More likely they have regular late edo toilets with containers for collection. An agrarian community would put a lot of value on night soil for fertilizer.
>>46784911Oopsie doodles, meant to quote >>46784777
>>46761708>even if they do, we have no idea how human belief works with their existence. Like, do they need 20 human belief points to survive the months? what's 1 human belief point and how much does a human have to believe in you to get oneWith reference to kami, there was an incident in the fairy manga where Reimu venerated a dead tree which then became a kami, then forgot about it a couple days later and it poofed just like that. Yukari then lectures her saying that kami start existing when something believes in it and poof when no one does. >>46761640>I always thought that it's limited only to youkai and shinto godsPeople need to start bringing citations to even claim that for youkai. Print stuff tends to say it's a lack of purpose/reason for existence that kills youkai off. It's why youkai try to find new jobs and why the zashiki warashi thought they could go back to the outside world and then came back when they weren't actually wanted. You could argue that people not believing the youkai is the source of an phenomenon causes the youkai to lose its purpose but what kills them seems to be an internal existential crisis rather than just not believing in it anymore like kami.
>>46787565That would explain Kyoko.
how would you rank the various realms in term of power? personally i think it goes like thisThe Hells > Lunarian Civilization > Makai > Outside World >> Gensokyo
>>46793991Seeing how the moonfags literally pissed and shit themselves about humanity sending three dudes and had to back off so hard we sent like 17 more over a decade I think we still prevail.
>>46794180It just happen to be the autistic-level of fear toward kegare they have, but it is noted that their technology and weaponry is above the outside world, either way.
>>46794249Weapons being beyond humanity don’t mean shit if a bunch of fairies just floating around makes your entire race run into the dream world out of fear. Humanity could dump a graveyard on the lunar surface and they all just drop dead instantly
>>46794482Calm down, Junko.
>>46793991Makai is just another part of Hell, a dead and barren wasteland.The magic civilization of PC98 doesn't exist anymore.
>>46795130Well, we see the area where Byakuren was sealed in, and a burning city.But I wouldn't say nothing exists there, that's like going to the barren frozen wasteland of the north pole and saying earth is uninhabited due that one area.Unless ZUN says there isn't a civilization there I don't see any reason to assume so.
>>46795130>Makai>just another part of HellSay you've not paid attention to the story without saying you've not paid attention to the story
>>46795130>Makai is just another part of HellNo. It's like in Yu Yu Hakusho. Hell = where the dead bad guys go to get punished. Makai = an entirely separate world full of powerful youkai with it's own societies.
>>46799358>Hell = where the dead bad guys go to get punished.Well and unborn babies, children who die of disease, and women who can’t give birth, and women who menstruate, and women who disrespect their husbands, and women who don’t have husbands, and women.
>>46795130>Makai is just another part of HellHell is a realm for spiritual punishment; Makai is the home for demonic entities.
>>46799600I mean is basically a vacation home/day job for demons anyway. They basically run the joint and get to do whatever they want.
>>46793991People often forget Heaven in discussions like these, which is understandable because we barely know anything about it, but it's useful to realize that both Hermits and Lunarians are basically just people larping to be more like celestials. Tenshi is a nobody, a literal child who was kicked out of heaven and she's one of the upper echelons in Gensokyo. In the CDs, the most ridiculous existence in all of Touhou was mentioned to live in Heaven (Amitabha). I would put Heaven and Hell in equal terms.Granted, we barely know anything about Makai as well, at least in Windows canon.
>>46801163Lunarians are mostly gods, I don't think we have an actual confirmed human lunarian except for maybe Kaguya
>>46801163The heaven we see is so irrelevant that you might aswell consider it part of GensokyoThe same can be said for former hell, it's very closely linked to Gensokyo
>>46720122Futo will probably job to Mamizou. From the Taoist team Seiga would be a better choice
>>46809406I still believe miko and reimu are going to go after aya and tojiko or seiga will go after suika
>>46799432No shit Byakugan sold her race out, she didnt want to go to Super Hell just for existing.
>>46809855Shit, no wonder ZUN is so anti-theist through all the games and print works, why would you even want to believe in any of this shit. Like Christianity sucks but at least it’s a pretty decent coping mechanism, JP Buddhism/Shintoism feels like sadism and nihilism mixed with all the bad shit about religion and none of the good.
>>46799432What the actual fuck? I have a problem with Christianity because you'll be doomed to Hell even if you're a good person if you don't believe in God/do it the right way but this? Why would anyone believe in this?
>>46810199Different cultural values, women were thought of similarly poor in the western world before christ came.A vast majority of society for all of history has been patriarchal and male-dominated so they tend to not think highly of women.
>>46799432I find very funny that so many women are into bhudism where shit like this exists.
No wonder canon Touhou is hot garbage.It's literally japanese fedora-tiper's ramblings.
>>46810199Like at least in Christianity as long as you repent for your sins before the lord you’re basically guaranteed to get into Heaven and live in eternal bliss, and like children and victims of oppression are also implied to be instantly forgiven and given access to heaven anyway… Japanese Buddhism is literally just “you thought you could exist you fucking idiot, you’re gonna regret that shithead. Also not existing is bad too so get ready to get your cock smashed in the cock smashing dimension for 10 quadrillion eons dumbass”>>46810240Funnily enough even the misogynistic champions of the world (Muslims) believe that women have a place in paradise if they’re good lil girls. How are you more misogynistic than ISLAM.
>>46810542I say the same for people and religion in general.
>>46817709Like on a fundamental level i get that its just a coping mechanism for people who fear death or just want to belong to something more... but then theres stuff like this where you gotta ask why even bother when it just adds more stress to your already kinda shitty life. Oblivion sounds nice in comparison.
>>46818014Yeah, I get that death and losing loved ones suck and all, but it's still gonna happen to all of us. I personally like Marcus Aurelius' take on death:>“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
>>46818235Yeah that’s cool and all, but in a world where absolute monsters can live long and happy lives after destroying so much, but people you care about die needlessly or in absolute pain… you sometimes wish there’s just something a bit more even if logic says it can’t be. We are irrational beings after all.
>>46818014Well that's always an option in Christianity, depending on your beliefs choosing oblivion is an option.
>>46818451Is it? I didnt know that?
>>46818547Some interpretations of Hell go into the idea that if God is omnipresent, rejecting God cause you to hit non-existence.
>>46818666Assuming of course, Hell is more of a state of existence than a plane a reality of sorts.Which is a debate in it's own right.
>>46818666I dont know Satan, you rejected God and you are explicitly told to be in the "lake of fire burning for all eternity".
>>46818790I think Humans are the ones that burn away into nothingness, demons suck cock in hell forever for trying to take on the boss and missing.
>>46818666Pretty sure it’s called Annihilationism, basically there’s a few passages in the Bible about how you only achieve eternal existence through Jesus, and a lot of the talks about eternal darkness in the pits can be seen as a metaphor for just permadeath. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilationism>>46818790Funnily enough there’s the idea that since humans are just lower beings we don’t deserve eternal punishment, but demons are eternal angels who have fallen from the highest of creation, so therefore they are allowed to suffer for their blasphemy. Hells not made for man, only for the truly unholy. Kinda metal
>>46818996Id like to see a big story taking christian aspects and making them cool, the potential is there.
Once again, the Judeo-Christian faggots are derailing the thread with their delusional view of the world.
>its okay when bhudism shintoism or taoism does it
>>46818408Agreed, I still enjoy reading about paranormal stuff because of how it makes me go "what if?"
>y-you must worship a jew on a stick just because, or you are a sinner!1!1!1!1!
You came to a wrong conclusion.It's not "Buddhism sucks because women are treated unfairly."It's "Buddhism rocks because women by default ruin everything and deserve hell."
>>46819963>>46819332Who are you quoting.
>>46819277Touhou is about religion and its effects on people so i don't see how talking about Christianity, which has appeared in and been talked about IN Touhou, is off limits.
>>46820361Listen man, I get misogyny as much as the next guy, but even I think it’s a bit harsh to send a woman to hell for something she literally can’t biologically stop.
>>46824697Are you seriously trying to form a sane argument with a fucking weeb, ON /jp/??? Get outta here.
>>46824769My hatred of religion unfortunately outstrips my hatred of women
>>46824697Incorrect.
What do the villagers even believe in? A mix of shintoism, buddhism and taoism? How can they reconcile the different beliefs together?
>>46825153They believe in whatever they want, some go to the Moriya, some go to the Myoren, wouldnt be surprised if there were others who believe in something else, knowing that outsiders may choose to stay.
>>46825182For some reason I don't think monotheism would be appreciated in Gensokyo, considering that many of the inhabitants think there are many gods, a single omnipotent one would be a foreign concept to them and draw the ire of several gods
>>46825201Maybe. Knowing that japan is the only source of people from the outside, and knowing how that place works and how the people are, I wouldnt be surprised if all (the very very very few) christians that survive the first few hours simply decided to decline and ask Reimu to go back, knowing how the christians work, that would leave only the atheists, agnostics and japanese religion followers, in which case they would adapt and wouldnt cause problems.That would explain why there are only 3 religions that we know of.
>>46825182They believe in all gods, it's just that different shrines and so different gods have different capabilities and blessings.I don't think they can "choose" to believe any specific religion when all the gods are confirmed, 100% undeniably real, you can literally see and even talk to some or for a specific buddhist god, meet their real 100% undeniable disciple (shou). They probably don't care about the deeper implication as a result, just what they offer.While gods do need "faith" to subsist, I don't think it's faith like we know what faith is, faith they even exist.The faith there is probably just going to pray at whatever shrine/temple the associated god reside and have "faith" they'll help on whatever request you have.
>>46825233Thats another way to see it, yeah, I never think about it for too long.
>>46825153They worship what is hip at the time like what was happening in HM, but most just get bored and move on when said religion is hard work. Then there is whatever Reimu or Sanae elevated to godhood at the time, like that mouse and old tree. These gods tend to die often because Reimu is a irresponsible idiot who just gets bored, and worship for these new kami dry up.
>>46825201>>46825216>>46825233Honestly, with comments of Crucifix's not working on Remilia/Flandre and with how the only mention of any sort of Judeo-Christian belief being Sariel from ALLLL the way back in the first game... i'm just gonna assume that none of the modern monotheistic religions are true in the Touhouverse. Taoism, Buddhism, Greek Mythology, and Shintoism coexisting works ok since their specific gods of specific things and you can have seperate Pagan gods occupy the same idea, but its hard to consolidate an omnipotent God into Shintoism or Buddhism seeing how Islam/Christianity outright contradict the fuck out of both of them.
>>46825446>Crucifix's not working on Remilia/FlandreWasnt that because they, along all things in TH, are powered by faith? Its like guns, a guns without bullets its worthless, and Kasen outrights makes a mention of Jesus, although dont quote me on that, I dont know if that is part of WaHH or just another Zounose work, Im outdated with the printworks.>but its hard to consolidate an omnipotent God into Shintoism or Buddhism seeing how Islam/Christianity outright contradict the fuck out of both of them.That can easily be explained as just another "Yukari moment", but I get your point.
>>46825403>mousewut??
>>46761179>Villagers have never been shown to be anything more than hopeless idiots blissfully unaware at worstRemember the villager towards the start of Lotus Eaters that speculated as to whether the village was a farm? The villagers aren't all as black-and-white retarded as you may think, even if that speculation wasn't quite the right conclusion.
>>46825201I like the idea that Gensokyo is home to a group of hidden Christians who hid there when the Tokugawa purges started.On that note, I find it interesting to see just how a world of the forgotten and abandoned would do with the big G. He might be the most worshipped being in the world, but this current form is far removed from his original roots as a Midianite mountain god who became part of the Canaanite pantheon is all, which the Abramiac religions went to great lengths to be forgotten.
>>46825446>i'm just gonna assume that none of the modern monotheistic religions are true in the TouhouverseKanako blatantly disproves your point in SoPM. We seem to just not have the full lore on why Remilia and Flandre are unaffected by such things.
>>46825514I think it was in W&HH, where a tree was struck by lightening, and the villagers found a sleeping mouse in it. Because the villagers are super spiritual, said mouse was getting worshipped as a protector of the village, because hoe else did a mouse survive a lighting bolt?At the end of the arc, Reimu makes a shrine for it, but she is a stupid shrine maiden who forgets things easily, so said mouse kami was at risk of disappearing if Sanae didn't step in to keep the shrine tidy and in the village's focus.
>>46825491Kasen mentions Jesus, but only in relation to him dying as a saint, and that was from the same story where they weren't even 100% sure if Buddha actually ascended to nirvana so i don't think thats definitive proof. Jesus was a real dude after all, how he died and everything, its possible that inverse he wasn't even the son of god but just a dude. There being faith in a Crucifix to hurt vampires wouldn't automatically prove Jesus either, just that a person had faith in a crucifix to hurt vampires, which would arguably fall more into Shinto Belief thatn actual Christianity. >>46825539I forgot what part of SoPM mentions God or whether or not theres a chance of an omnipotent god within the verse. Might have to reread it.
So we know humans can turn into youkai, but can the opposite also happen?I'm not speaking of youkai disguising as humans, but actually becoming one, is it possible?
>>46825847Maybe? What would happen if humans start to believe that a youkai stopped being a youkai and became a human?
>>46825847it's fundamentally impossible, an egregore cannot become the same as its creatorsand even for humans-turned-youkai, they might be different than typical youkai since we don't even know if human belief would affect their existence in the same way
>>46825847Humans unfortunately are given the shit end of the stick for pretty much all of Mythological lore, so i guess no God or Youkai would ever want to become human anyway. Why be a human when you can literally live forever with no consequence and moral obligation, while also having supernatural powers that are so vague you can do whatever the fuck you want and are only held back by other youkai. Even the shittiest youkai still are better off in Gensokyo than 99% of the human cast.
>>46825916I guess the only benefit that they would get from becoming human is that they know how it feels like to be one and turn more empathetic maybe?
>>46825991>youkai>empatheticLmfao.Unless your name is Keine, of course.
>>46826000One of the major reasons why youkai don't feel empathy toward humans is because they themselves don't know what it's like to be human so if they were to get turned into weaklings like them you wouldn't bet they'd at the very least feel a tiny sense of understanding?
>>46826017Id bet theyd feel even more disgust and contempt, we are talking about youkai here, hell, even Mokou, a "human", lacks empathy for people.
>>46826061Mokou is a good listener.
I haven't read any of the manga, how long would it take me to catch up to where you guys are?
>>46826087Yeah, but she doesnt do it "out of empathy", she just got bored of killing everyone she met.
>>46753648>>46755171wtf reimu killed someone?
>>46826139Reimu killed about three youkai(one was a former human), and Marisa killed one too.
>>46825991>>46826017Eh… I mean a lot of Youkai actually used to be human (Yukari, Byakuren, Alice, Patchouli, most of the myouren temple, Kasen possibly) and they’re some of the meanest and more remorseless characters in the series. If anything, them understanding humans makes them even more monstrous.
>>46826488>Patchouli
>>46826488>Alice
>>46826488Yukari used to be human?
>>46826488>myouren temple>kaseneither bait or tourist
>>46826685Not him, but she's probably Meribel, and a relative of Reimu as well. But it's all implied and nothing is stated clearly.
>>46826774>a relative of Reimu as wellNTA but when was that stated? I thought it was just a meme.
>>46826800Her being a relative of Reimu if the bigger maybe of the two, but she has a weaker version of Yukari's control of gaps and boundaries which isn't connected to her Fantasy nature ability or her ability to channel gods. Maribel also mentions her ability to control gaps and boundaries id genetic, but she has it the strongest.So Reimu could be an ancestor of Maribel, but that has less evidence that Yukari being Merry.
>>46826111It depends on how fast you read and how busy you are. I'd say by the next chapter you should be caught up
>>46826488>YukariWe don't know if the "Merry=Yukari" is correct yet >ByakurenShe's a hypocrite that preaches something but does another, still she isn't one of the worst. She's apathetic towards humans>AliceDispite being an complete weirdo, Alice is one of the safest people to encounter in Gensokyo.>PatchouliShe's a naturally born as a magician and never was human in the first place. Plus she has never hurt anyone who didn't invade her library. >most of the myouren templeMost of them were never human in the first place. They are a bunch of assholes though>KasenShe never was a Human and now is one of the kinder people you can find in Gensokyo. She IS larping as a human though
>>46827056> never was human in the first place. [citation needed]
>>46827056>Dispite being an complete weirdoHow is Alice a weirdo? She's friendly to humans and just lives in the woods. Nobody calls Reimu a weirdo even though she lives alone.Alice deserves more respect...
>>46827907Because she does shit like this >>46766046
>>46827915That's Parsee.
>>46827124>>46827056While there's no physical difference between a magician and a human, Patchouli was stated to have always been a magician as opposed to a human who learned magic and made themselves ageless like Alice and Byakuren. This just means she could use magic naturally and it was easier for her to become ageless. You could probably argue natural born magicians should be considered at least half-humans if werepeople and youmu are generally considered half-humans.
>>46828000when that cross review was written, ZUN still wrote parsee as being bound to the bridge, so it couldn't have been her behind the shrine. However, we have another blonde-haired autist who is already known to pound nails into things behind the shrine, and we have reimu who is notoriously bad at remembering faces
>>46826737Ok maybe not most, but a lot of the Myouren temple were Youkai that used to be human. Murasa used to girl who drowned and became a youkai Ichirin was a human that became a youkai Byakuren was also a monk that became a youkai Kasen being a former human is based on her printed works as Ibaraki-douji, where she was born a human and became a youkai according to legend. Kasen IS Ibaraki-douji so there’s no reason to assume her backstory is different.
>>46828000When that Article was written, Parsee didn't even exist.And no, you can't say that Aya made it up since she interviewed Alice herself, who admitted to the act, and Reimu herself mentioned it in IaMP when she defeats Alice.
>>46828191>>46828309Alice didn't do it.
>>46828164
>>46828845Couldn't natural-born here just mean very naturally talented at magic? Like saying "he's a natural born fighter" or similar.
>>46827056>We don't know if the "Merry=Yukari" is correct yetIt’s pretty clearly implied and obvious that she is, the new CD is like a hair away from outright confirmation >She's a hypocrite that preaches something but does another, still she isn't one of the worst.She actively wants to suppress all her subjects from obeying her, hires assassins, won’t let humans become monks, and lets people get attacked by youkai on the way to her temple. She’s pretty bad>Dispite being a complete weirdo, Alice is one of the safest people to encounter in Gensokyo.There’s the whole implication of her murdering her gang in DiPP>Most of them were never human in the first place. They are a bunch of assholes thoughAt least half of the original cast were human, like Ichirin, Murasa, and Byakuren>She never was a HumanIbaraki was always canonically a human, either with disfigurement before she/he became a full fledged oni after shedding blood, or by indulging in evil once they got older. >now is one of the kinder people you can find in Gensokyo.Unless you’re a spirit and then she’ll instakill you with a smile on her face, and her backstory still has her killing thousands of innocent people for shits and giggles.
>>46828845Yes, it could, I was just providing the screenshot.>>46829357It says something that Byakuren improved the situation between humans and Youkai, making the Yokai less hostile to humans.
>>46829472>>46828947fuck
Total youkai death
>>46829554Via sexual exhaustion!
>>46829560Due to rape!
>>46828947>There are two types of magicians: those who were born as magicians and humans who became magicians.No.
>>46828191I'm sure she had her reasons.
>>46829570*Reverse rape followed by domination loss!
>>46829472I wouldn’t say “improved” seeing how the youkai blatantly go against her rules and still attack humans
>>46827056>She's a hypocrite that preaches something but does another, still she isn't one of the worst. She's apathetic towards humansJust checked this thread randomly and this is what I find. lmaoKeep fueling your headcanons of a character who solely exists in your mind.>Sanae: Help them? Are you a friend of the youkai?>Byakuren: A friend ... yes, I suppose I am, but I'm also a friend to humans.
>>46829573Oh right I forgot.
>>46829696Yes, but she'd also decreased the amount of damage Youkai cause so you can't say she is totally ineffectual.For all of her rottenness she does get results, even if they aren't the ideal results.
>>46829706Anon, Byakuren also says her subordinates don't party or drink alcohol.
>>46829759Byakuren professing her values isn't the same as Byakuren giving orders to others who disobey while she isn't looking.
Fellow grimchads, is this accurate?https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/love_and_peace
>>46829706Oh well she said it, that must mean its true. Never been a Touhou character who mixes their words to sound better than they actually are, only to be revealed to be much worse than anyone could imagine.
>>46833662Oh well anon said otherwise, that must mean it's false, amrite.
>>46833662>>46829739
>>46833662Anon, if you cannot trust a literal race traitor who violently attacks shrine maidens who are working to keep the peace by subduing violent youkai that were causing trouble, all the while professing that she wants to restore the status of youkai, who can you trust?Obviously you can take every statement from the woman who learnt evil demon magic that runs contrary to her religion out of fear of death and vanity, power that she never gives up, at face value.Can you imagine ever distrusting such an honest and earnest woman?
>>46835496Cool story, "bro".
>>46841210>Cool story, "bro."ftfy
