Anybody who's genuinely religious as an adult is just willfully fucking stupid.Like these are the types of people who'd still believe Santa Claus is real if their parents never told you he wasn't.Just zero insight into anything, zero critical thinking, zero awareness.Are people still religious in your country?
hey buddy, I think you got the wrong doorreddit nu-atheism is two blocks down
I'm Catholic/agnostic.The far right definitely has given religion a bad name since they twist and warp it for evil.
Im atheistic but hating on religion is cringe. I think Christianity is only hated on because It prohibites some stuff like homosexuality. If Europe was some kind of greek paganism derived religion i think militant atheism wouldnt exist
Maybe God isn't real but you should realize it has bad effects on people when you don't set guidelines on behavior
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>>196442790I'm not theist, I'm Agnostic. I'm willing to accept there's things I don't understand, but after studying Christianity and where Judaism originates, I cannot with a good conscience claim Christianity is the real deal.>>196442917I agree. Dimwits need rules so they don't make life hell for every one around them. Religion does that perfectly
>>196443079I don't use pornhub, I only eat fish and brown rice with vegetables, I pirate, wouldn't use tik Tok on a bet, dont play handheld games and don't smoke weed.Your response?
>>196442663Nah you’re just stupid.
>>196443148t. scroooooler
>>196442663All that is still 100 times better than the nihilism trap.>>196443079dumb strawman, bet this originated in /pol/
>>196443148you still post here you ADHD cretin
>>196442663I've been on 12 dates this year and every single woman was religious or believed in astrology. You'd think living in the godless Sodom that is LA you'd run into fellow atheists but literally not one.I can understand believing in higher powers, buddhism, or even Shinto animist bullshit but I can't take seriously that the creator of the universe cares about my foreskin or what I do on Sundays. How can you take that seriously? It's mind boggling.
>>196442663I’m an atheist, but I’ve increasingly been coming to the conclusion that society needs religion to set values, create cohesion and unity, and to promote local community
>>196442663kill yourself dogfucking kike bitch
>>196443303>nihilism trapWhat is, is. The truth is the truth regardless of whether or not you want to hear it. If Nihilism is the truth, then better to accept it instead of living a lie>>196443235Welp that's it. The Estonian didn't have one single argument, he just said I'm stupid so he wins and I concede.
>>196442663Just let a nigga be happy
>>196443376This is called being a midwit, don't be angry just because people dumber or smarther than you are able to enjoy religion. I won't even question why you think it's comparable to astrology.
>>196443415Religious people are the ones who are trying to hurt and oppress others unfortunately.
>>196443358So what?4chan wasn't on your clever little picture>>196443382I'd agree but then it for me thinking; is it really good to have the cornerstone of your society based on a lie? Isn't that just asking for trouble further down the line?>>196443386You REALLY need to invest in some antipsychotics.
>>196443412>If Nihilism is the truth, then better to accept it instead of living a lieBetter how? Your life becomes worse in most ways. Peterson is a meme but this is one thing he got right, believe in something because there is nothing worse than living for nothing
>>196442663Atheism has been a farce for a long time, but Dawkins essentially put the last nail in its coffin by lamenting results of his own doing. It's time for atheists to rethink their life through or at least shut up.
>>196442663The moment I realize I won't be guaranteed a virgin wife and that even religious girls are whores nowadays, the moment I stopped taking it seriously.
>>196443531Society is built on believing in things that don’t really exist, humans are only able to cooperate with people beyond the numbers of a small hunter gatherer group because we create shared fictions. Nations exist because people believe they do, you can point to the land, or a flag, or a building but they only unite people because they believe they have meaning. Everything that unites us is based on shared fiction, and that’s not a bad thing, it’s an example of the unique human ability to conceive of things that don’t really exist or don’t exist yet. It’s why we’re the dominant species on the planet.
>>196443592I see what you mean, but what is there to believe in that's gonna take the emptiness away? Nothing mundane. You'd have to make up some shit and lie to yourself.
>>196443650See>>196443092I'm not atheist, I'm Agnostic.There might be something out there, there might not. But I'm pretty convinced what I was brought up to believe (Christianity) isn't it.
>>196443531it wasn't my picturethat wasn't my posti bet you're feeling pretty damn silly right now
>>196443702That's actually a good point, I see where you're coming from now.
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>>196443857I goofed. I will say good day and be on my way.
>>196443828If there is even a remote chance that a state of eternal damnation exists, then you bet I believe. Even though faith itself is of course not as simple as saying "I don't wanna go to Gehenna".
>Just zero insight into anything, zero critical thinking, zero awareness.
>>196442663truth nuke. Imagine literally believing in fantasy shit and getting mad at everybody who doesn't support your delusions.
>>196443967>If there is even a remote chanceIs there, though? And who is it telling me there is? Scribes from the desert thousands of years ago? What's their basis for this? "Divine Revelation"? What is that? And why doesn't it happen anymore? Where are all the miracles written Bout in the Bible in the modern age?This is the god you pray to in Christianity, btw. I mean like come on.The more you look into it, the less likely it all seems.
Americans can't go to heaven So it makes no difference for you.
>he thinks he can have a new beginning>he thinks he can turn it around>he thinks he will finally turn his life around>LMAO car crash loser
>>196443828Agnostic is just cope for atheists to revert to in defeat. If you oppose organized religion and laugh at theists for being stupid, you're an atheist by definition.
>>196444643what if he only laughs at abrahamics specifically?
100% real
>Gos knows everything future last and present because he's omnipotent>Yet he creates faulty creations and punishes them for that which he already knows will happen at the moment he began the chain of events that will lead to said faults.God is evil, and that's fine but you've got to admit it.
>>196444643No I'm not because I'm open to the idea of a higher power or prime mover of some sort. It's just that I don't really see the organized religions that we have as representative of that.Thats like saying if Coke isn't your favorite soda then you don't believe soda exists. That's just asinine.
>>196442663Religion just means knowing you're not the most important thing in the universe. You failed
I'm an agnostic, debate me. pls, debate, I'll prove I'm smarter than you.
>>196443932This nigga is based though
>>196444878Not really. I do t think I'm the most important thing. Not by a longshot. I think we're all the same decaying genetic material as everyone else
I hate you self obsessed monkeys so much it's unreal, wish an asteroid hits Earth right now to end your loathesome parasitice race.
>>196445001And what're you, a donkey?
>>196444968I wouldn't call being crippled both mentally and physically very based
>>196442663Honestly the older I get the more religion appeals to me. It's a shame every religion is so up it's own ass with cultural influence that they can't focus on just the broad universal ideas.
>>196443494Literally typical spiritual virtue signaling labeling, oh you don't understand muh religion muh spirituality you are automatically midwit , or this or that , look at me I'm such a illuminated one. >yet I did not created life or know anything about it besides the human perspective Typical humans..
>>196445029>barely evolved ape thinks he can talk down to his masters.Know your place, monkey.
>>196445029He's the alien towing the asteroid into orbit
>>196444981>I do think I'm the most important thingYeah I know you do, that's the problem.
>>196445171LOL>>196445169You fool. I'm no monkey. You couldn't conceive of what I am. I'm older than even the concept of time. Sit down. Be humble.
>>196443702>humans are only able to cooperate with people beyond the numbers of a small hunter gatherer group because we create shared fictions.This is straight up pathetic .Living in the fantasy world does not equal living the physical reality , if another human chops your hands there is no fiction that stops your suffering.There is the fiction as you mention, but the real deal is the physical condition that includes the mind . It's like you are position yourself above the creation , when in fact the creation has it's on design with or without humans in the map.Remove humans and their silly messages like yours , and see how life keeps going.Oh and you pity dominance in this planet is temporary , you dominate till your end comes for good.. For not respecting the balance.With great capacity comes great responsibility.
>>196445237ꖌꖎꖎ ||J∷ᓭᒷꖎ, be glad I can speak your disgusting tongue, you abomination of genetic material.
>>196444788That's a pretty far hill to backtrack to after calling religious people stupid and unable to critically think outright. I will add that this notion of yours that you came to this conclusion by "critical thinking" is entirely false. Atheism was planted into your head by the mass media just like the church planted christianity in people's heads before the enlightenment.
>>196445101It's called God complex, people will invade the mind with their perceptions not matter if right or wrong.This is a problem with the human species , a very invasive species even at spiritual level.
>>196445445>Atheism was planted into your head by the mass mediaNo it wasn't because I'm not atheist you retard. You're unable to think critically and can only conceive of things in terms of black and white which is why you are, it would seem, constitutionally incapable of accepting the grey that is Agnosticism. Something higher may exist. Something higher may not exist. I'm just a little hairless ape and I don't know. But from everything I've seen, it almost certainly is not christianity
>>196445398What are you talking about you stupid nut? What do you disagree with?
>>196445646These are complex concepts. He's an ESL. Cut him some slack if you can't understand him. Hell, I speak Italian and couldn't say half the shit in this thread in Italian.
>>196445646He's giving you advice, you air sucking gamete.
>>196442663https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/reincarnation-overview#Research_on_Reincarnation
>>196445646What I'm talking about?That you are no creator, that you did not created life itself, but for some odd reason you think your words have any meaning at the scale of existence . For some odd reason you think you speak in name of others, when there is no bound between us .This is all temporary and that's good, hopefully to not be repeated ever again, this is my wish I ask the creation
If the Abrahamic God is to be believed, then creating h*mans was a colossal mistake, a failed experiment.
>>196445398>if another human chops your hands there is no fiction that stops your suffering.Of course there is. If you're in very deep hypnosis you wouldn't feel anything.Actually we know very little about the capabilities of the mind and nature of matter. Unironically, that's a great post. Finally some atheist in true Nitsche's spirit, not entry-level fedora.
>>196446130>Of course there is. If you're in very deep hypnosis you wouldn't feel anything.Well you know what I'm trying to say, obvious in such state you would not feel the pain, but pain is not the only human condition, the aftermath would be living without hands for the rest of the journey , and that carries a heavy weigh in the mind. Because you have the notion but no control . Unless the human species was advanced technologically in the medical field and we could actually repair our body parts to it's original state. Sure in the future the human mind can unlock more futuristic features , like genetic therapy , DNA regeneration, body cells regeneration , even mimic other species in our planet that can biologically regrow body parts like the frogs that can regrow their legs .What is was trying to say to the other anon is that fiction is a extension of the mind, like in the mathematical perfection of the universe our brain can calculate any sort of unimaginable fictions, does not mean that all are compatible with the physical world or resilient, but merely wrong calculations.
>>196446130Another thing I wanted to say.I have truly troubles in dealing with human condition, I think most of things in the human system are futile, I think that we work hard and never smart , like humanity causes it's own struggle when in reality it could be way more simple , objective and sophisticated.I think humans complicate life a lot , so in my misanthrope perspective about the human system is that this human system is primitive.
>>196445934Be that as it may, humemes must have yielded at least some divine keks, so it wasn't all for nothing
>>196442663Jesus loves you, anon.
>>196447258You're the only human with some self-awareness that I have ever come across.
