Where did the Samic substrate come from? Was it SHGs in the north? If so this would be the only proof of SHG language.A lot of words for seal which SHG were famous for hunting.Saami English kut’t’k heartvuntas sandpoav’n hummockk’ed’d’k geađgi stonepiŋŋk biegga windket’t’k’ geatki wolverineáidni bearded sealákču harbor sealbuovjja belugahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Finno-Ugric_substrate
Probably from EHG since they are 20% EHG.Only other European HG ancestry they have is Baltic HG which came through Indo-European Balts so probably not a very good source for pre-IE loanwords.
>>16544434It doesn’t resemble IE so EHGs probably didnt invent IE
>>16544448Those EHGs would be seperated 1000s of years from PIE related EHGs
>>16544448Amerindian languages are with almost 100% certainty related but linguists can't see it through normal comparative linguistics because the connection is so distantSame thing with IE and EHG languagesAlso the oldest IE-related samples like Progress aren't that EHG they are ANE/EHG/CHG mix.
>>16544472True>>16544480It might be provable through genetics.PIE originated west of the Dnieper. Progress probably spoke Anatolian
>>16544503All Indo-European populations zero-drop Ukrainian HG admix. They don't zero-drop Don HG but that's only a moderate sized component of some 20% while the Progress component is 70%.
>>16544522Study claimed Yamnaya core formed from mostly "intermediate" CLV and a Dnipro-Don population of either UNHG or mixed UNHG and Volga/EHG with EK2 being used as a source.
>>16544628Remontnoye fits as this intermediate CLV and EK2 fits as the dnipro-don HG candidate.
>>16544628It's a fake model. Brute-forcing Iran_N into Yamnaya makes it wildly inaccurate and allows for WHG-shifted noise since it's at the other end of the board. Accurate models bypass this CLV bullshit entirely.
>>16544639Yeah this is only a preprint but do you have any G25 models that you prefer?
>>16544647Progress, Don Sredny Stog(EHG), Trypillian farmer is all Yamnaya and original Corded Ware need. It's a mystery as to how pure Trypillian made it to PIE but it likely has something to do with Crimea. We don't know who lived there in Neolithic times. If they were like Usatovo that works.
>>16544639Why,?
>>16544660>>16544660Yamna and CT cultures cooexisted and engaged in trade for centuries with each other before the CT culture collapsed and due to deforestation and climate change related crop failures.Because the steppe pastoralists weren't totally reliant on agriculture, they survived the famine and expandedDumb
