Why would Satan make himself so obviously evil to the point where any negative traits about anything can be attributed to him? Isn't that missing the point? Shouldn't Satan be trying to make himself look good so that people are tricked into turning away from God, rather than making himself so unlikeable that following God just becomes a logical choice instead?
>>16543884Basically the devil deceives the world, according to what it says in the Bible. If you read the Bible, you can see the truth about this, but many people are blinded to that truth and they end up deceived."For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."- 2 Corinthians 11:13-15"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified."- Acts 20:28-32"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."- 1 Corinthians 11:19"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."- 2 Peter 2:1-3
>>16543884Aren't things like hedonism associated with the devil? Right now western culture has shifted very heavily to "do what makes you feel good" and views Christianity as oppressive and bad.
>>16543884satan being a villain is retarded fanfiction greeks inserted into the bible. jews don't even care about him
>>16545630Dumb bibleposter. The snake in the garden didn't lie to Eve, he told the truth and freed mankind from the golden birdcage we were cloistered in. The snake prompted us to use our gifts of discernment, intelligence and reason. We use these gifts to gather information about the world, make educated claims about its functioning and then put them to the test to deduce truth. Adam and Eve were deceived by their creator when he told them that they would die on that very day, which they did not, and the snake claimed that they would become privy to forbidden knowledge, which turned out to be the case. No amount of "hurr durr no he actually meant they'd die a thousand years later!!!!" is going to change that he lied to them.The message of Genesis can be distilled into two sentences:>Authority is always correct, even when it lies and misleads you. Follow the orders given to you and acquiesce all thought.It's pretty telling that Judaism and its offshoot heresies demand that you do not think for yourself and follow the whims of authority at all costs, even at the cost of your own humanity. But it is really hilarious to watch people basically claim unironically that scientific thinking (i.e. testing claims made about reality or the workings of the world) is the work of the devil lol.
>>16545665Couple things here.>It's pretty telling that Judaism and its offshoot heresies demand that you do not think for yourself and follow the whims of authority at all costsThis is not even wrong, because Judaism is a gnostic heresy of the middle ages.>people basically claim unironically that scientific thinking (i.e. testing claims made about reality or the workings of the world) is the work of the devil lol.The scientific method was originally developed out of Christian thought, particularly from the time Francis Bacon and the development of empiricism. The Bible isn't against this, but it does shut down superstition and larping as science very hard."Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."- Titus 1:14"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."- 1 Timothy 2:3-4"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."- Psalm 19:1-3"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened."- Romans 1:20-21Atheists are basically just mad that their imaginary explanations for things that presuppose metaphysical materialism are easily shown to be false and are bankrupt in every meaningful way.>The message of Genesis can be distilled into two sentences:When you say stuff like this it isn't something to be taken seriously.>Adam and Eve were deceived by their creatorAre you even trying, anon? Our Creator wouldn't deceive us.
The main plot Satan has going on right now is trying to convince the Israelites that the law of the convenant has been abolished so that they do not obey them and turn back to Yahweh, because when they do then the chosen king who has been prophesized to reestablish the crown of David will be born.
>>16545634Christianity is not inherenntly anti-hedonist, in fact it teaches that God is forgiving regardless of mans inherent sinfullnness. Modern Christians and tradLARPs have made it out to be this way, and that's why western culture sees Christianity as oppressive now. Christianity USED to appeal to the downtrodden and underclasses of society by providing them with kindness and food but that shit's been thrown out the window in the modern age
>>16543884Devil is a woman
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This shit is spooky>>xyou go
>>16543884I'm an atheist but a Christian friend who I think is pretty thoughtful told me that he didn't get "devilish" vibes from things really but that his conception was similar to The Devil's Advocate, like how Satan actually does his evil or what to watch out for, like this monologue here in particular:https://youtu.be/zmuYRlpNZCcIt's like thinking of yourself as a God.>Eddie Barzoon... take a good look, because he's the poster child for the next millennium. These people, it's no mystery where they come from. You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire. You build egos the size of cathedrals. Fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse. Grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green gold-plated fantasies until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own god. Where can you go from there? As we're scrambling from one deal to the next, who's got his eye on the planet? As the air thickens, the water sours, even bees' honey takes on the metallic taste of radioactivity... and it just keeps coming, faster and faster. There's no chance to think, to prepare; it's buy futures, sell futures... when there is no future. We got a runaway train, boy. We got a billion Eddie Barzoons all jogging into the future. Every one of them is getting ready to fistf*** God's ex-planet, lick their fingers clean, as they reach out toward their pristine, cybernetic keyboards to tote up their fucking billable hours. And then it hits home. You got to pay your own way, Eddie. It's a little late in the game to buy out now. Your belly's too full, your dick is sore, your eyes are bloodshot and you're screaming for someone to help. But guess what - there's no one there! You're all alone, Eddie. You're God's special little creature. Maybe it's true. Maybe God threw the dice once too often. Maybe He let us all down.
>>16545635It's not that we don't care. He doesn't exist, at least the Christian conception of it. It's a title, not an individual.Satan is just an early Hebrew word for "accuser", he's a prosecutor. Hence why in Job, God is clearly on friendly relations with a subordinate who holds the title of Satan and Satan is merely the man who tests Job's faith, rather than deceiving him.
>>16547846The satanists' habit of making things up on the spot really shows. This is probably the thousandth variation of totally made up, also mutually incompatible explanations for Satan I've seen that just completely ignores what the Bible itself says.>He doesn't exist, at least the Christian conception of it.That's the entire Bible from start to finish, though.
