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Anonymous

why do i have to buy google ha(...) 04/27/24(Sat)01:08:03 No.100199569

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why do i have to buy google hardware in order to remove google software?? Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:08:03 No.100199569 Archived

WTF?? IT MAKES ZERO SENSE

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)01:09:12 No.100199582

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:09:12 No.100199582

>>100199569
Because they are the only mainstream phones with unlockable bootloaders

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)01:11:52 No.100199603

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:11:52 No.100199603

>>100199569
Satan doesnt like you removing his spyware

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)01:12:50 No.100199614

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:12:50 No.100199614

>>100199582
https://developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)01:18:37 No.100199663

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:18:37 No.100199663

>>100199569
Because Android needs a development platform phone, and that's pretty much the Pixel line. AOSP best supports the Pixel because that was what it was made for. But also, ironically Google also invested a lot of money into hardware security features that actually work, and made it so alternative OSs could actually use those features. (Like a proper verified boot that's validated by the phone's secure element, thus GrapheneOS is the *only* alternative OS that actually uses verified boot. The rest are hacks in comparsion.)

I think people here misunderstand that Google is a fairly large company with many branches, some of them with different interests.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)01:20:57 No.100199684

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)01:20:57 No.100199684

>>100199603
Google actually dosen't care if you install alternative OSs on the Pixel line, they literally made them for developers. It won't even void the warranty.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)02:25:41 No.100200259

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)02:25:41 No.100200259

idk

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)02:27:41 No.100200276

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)02:27:41 No.100200276

Because you give Google money regardless. If you really think about you're more or less paying a premium to not use Google software.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)02:33:29 No.100200325

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)02:33:29 No.100200325

>>100199614
>if Sony performs a warranty repair, Sony will likely charge you a significant service fee
>the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:12:43 No.100200688

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:12:43 No.100200688

>>100199569
are you talking about GrapheneOS? it's not their fault that Google is the only company that gives you an option to easily unlock and relock (with custom roms) bootloader, has great hardware security features and has proper updates (for firmware too) instead of just giving you one OS update and telling you to fuck off like any other company.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:33:21 No.100200892

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:33:21 No.100200892

>>100199569
You don't. You can install LOS without gapps on a vast majority of devices.
>>100199582
Not true. Again there are numerous phones where you can unlock the bootloader.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:35:09 No.100200909

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:35:09 No.100200909

>>100200892
Moto phones?

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:37:40 No.100200933

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:37:40 No.100200933

>>100200909
What, to install LOS or unlock the bootloader?

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:38:21 No.100200939

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:38:21 No.100200939

>>100200325
>the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality

Based. Not an influensoor. I'd even gut that shit out.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:41:26 No.100200970

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:41:26 No.100200970

>>100200939
"Advanced camera functionality" is Sony-speak for "works after 6PM".

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)03:43:05 No.100200985

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)03:43:05 No.100200985

>>100200933
Bootloader

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:05:10 No.100201170

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:05:10 No.100201170

>>100200939
It's been a few years since I owned a Sony phone but from recollections you could back up your DRM keys and put the phone back to stock.
>>100200985
Yes, but there is a caveat. You can unlock the bootloader on Motorola phones and their dev support is probably the best of any Android phone right now. The hardware is cheap and the high end flagship are a good spec for a decent price. But, bootloader unlock also is dependent on where you got the phone and where you live. For instance, I had a Fold 4 which I unlocked a year back but because I live in the UK, there was some doubt whether I'd be able to do this because of Brexit and without EU law coverage, Samsung were going to lock the bootloader. Luckily the option was still available but I know there's issues if you live in the US, locked to carriers, etc.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:11:58 No.100201227

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:11:58 No.100201227

>>100199569
You don't.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/
>>100199582
They aren't and unlocked BL is not the only requirement. If you're just gonna install a custom android ROM, even without gapps, you're still running google software.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:13:14 No.100201238

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:13:14 No.100201238

>>100199569
YOU make zero sense. why would you drop vanilla android on a pixel?

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:17:03 No.100201262

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:17:03 No.100201262

>>100201238
>pixel
>vanilla android
Who's gonna tell him.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:24:01 No.100201309

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:24:01 No.100201309

>>100199569
just buy a xiaomi. most of them support boot unlocking and custom roms

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:24:05 No.100201310

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:24:05 No.100201310

>>100201262
who's gonna tell me what
how is the pixel android not the most vanilla you can get?
are you retarded?

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:27:14 No.100201336

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:27:14 No.100201336

>>100201310
I think what the OP is asking is why GrapheneOS is only available on the Pixel line of phones and tablets. Yes, Pixels have vanilla Android as Google intended but to remove Google telemetry, you need to install Graphene or other custom firmware.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:34:22 No.100201387

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:34:22 No.100201387

>>100201310
AOSP is "vanilla", not Google's "Pixel Experience" aka "Numerous Good Morning Sirs OS"

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:41:13 No.100201427

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:41:13 No.100201427

>>100201310
You have never seen raw android. What google ships with pixels is not it.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:54:00 No.100201535

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:54:00 No.100201535

>>100201387
>>100201427
maybe I'm retarded or drunk or both but how is the pixel android not vanilla if android is literally google's baby?
>>100201336
i see

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)04:56:17 No.100201557

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:56:17 No.100201557

>>100201535
There is android and there's google brand android. It's like chromium and chrome. Both made by google but one is blatantly more spyware infested.

Anonymous
04/27/24(Sat)05:06:41 No.100201642

Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)05:06:41 No.100201642

>>100201557
damn, I am truly drunk AND retarded, this chromium chrome comparison made it. thanks anon.