is there a point in switching from arch to debian? people say that theyre both the S tier distros but debian has slower package manager with smaller official repo and doesnt have any unofficial one like arch has, also its heavier than arch and dont say anything about stablility because I literally never had any problems with arch that couldnt be solved in a couple of minutes since Ive switched to it like a year ago
does S stand for shit?
>>100195425I preferred Debian but if you have no problem with Arch then just stick with Arch.
>>100195425I sat on windows 7 for a very long time, you really don't need to switch OS that much.Just sit on something that works.Arch is for hipsters, where they have to have the newest of the new.Debian is for people who are older and just need change less often.Once AI tools start getting integrated offline, it's going to blur the distros.If you need or want something new, the AI will simply just make it for you.
Arch for desktops. Debian for servers. Simple as.
>>100195425Fedora for laptopsDebian for servers/turnkeyArch for distrobox
>>100195425I don't see why you would, arch is better in pretty much every way. maybe if you're too lazy for system maintenance then Debian's stability is worth switching for but otherwise there's no reason
>>100195425I've been using Debian for two days after years of using Xubuntu. It's the second distro that I've ever used, so I don't know about Arch, and since I've been only using it for just a couple of days, I cannot say much about Debian either.Debian works and I was able to set it up the way I like it. That's all I can say.
Made the switch to debian from (((Ngubuntu))), everything works and it isn't complete fucking shit.>>100195791Pretty excited for that. Wasn't urbit going to do something similar? I forgor.
>>100195425one doesn't simply switch "to debian" without knowing the point. debian is the only distro you should use. forget every other distro. move on, be happy with life. the more time you tweak your os and switch back and forth, the less time you actually fucking do something. install debian, do something, don't stop doing somethings until you die. live happy. good life. goodnight.
>>100195425Smaller official repo? Debian's repo has over 80k programs. It's more than 10 times the size of Arch's repo. You should try to be less of a tard anon.
>>100195425For daily driver desktop use, Debian creates far more problems than it solves
>>100199817Yup... Debian has the largest repos of any distro. Truly a retarded and baffling thing to criticize.
>>100195425>is there a point in switching from arch to debian?Without more context, no. Both are solid distros. Debian doesn't seem generally superior, so the specific circumstances are what make the difference: whether you need packages that are only designed for Debian, whether you or your coworkers are already more familiar with Debian, whether your company already has tools and processes designed for Debian, etc.
Even if Debian works on your current hardware, you will always be living in fear of your current system dying and you needing to switch to a new system on short notice. Debian does poorly at hardware enablement.>just run unstableIf you can get away with running unstable as your daily, then you are either lucky, or skilled enough that this question becomes irrelevant. Sid is designed for Debian developers for the purpose of making the next Debian>just use a backports kernelOr just use a distro that supports you in its official release, instead of having to use such hacks
>>100199817>>100199889Debian's is larger, but AUR will get you more exotic/rare software. The red tape a package has to go through to make it into Debian is astounding. They mean well, but Debian policy does not lend itself to the heterogenous nature of the Internet
didn't want to create a new thread just for this. anybody know how to properly set perms for shared directory? have to set this up for small office. everybody needs their own personal folder and then one monolithic Shared directory that everybody can use for swapping info around.GPT gives me trash. I've gone in CIRCLES because it has a one-line fucking memory and it warns you that calling it retarded is a "violation" of the user agreement
>>100195425stay out>>100199994what the fuck are you talking about, are you on non-x86?
>>100200069ask claudealso lmao there's nothing in the user agreement about not insulting gpt for being a dipshit, funny how it hallucinated thatwhat did it say exactly?i've just had LLMs say they don't feel comfortable after i call them a fucking retard
>>100200154are YOU on non-x86? take a look at kernel changelogs sometime
>>100200185i run amd cpus and nvidia gpus (sorry, amd sucks at ML/AI) like a normal humansome saps run intelwhat possible hardware issues are you running into?
>>100200169It wasn't in the response. it was a red interactive banner that said "your response may violate our safety guidelines" blah blah. Fucking pussy bot.anyway, I'm having trouble with a specific requirement on this server The general folder layout is like /Root/Shared and /Root/User1 and /Root/User 2.ONly issue I have is that if user1 adds a directory to Shared, then when User2 drags it to their User2 folder, it copies rather than moves. You can apply permissions recursively to fix them even with an ACL but it won't apply to anything added afterward so it's not a perpetual fix.
i wish debian would get rid of the wifi drivers so the fuckin losers on /g/ on their dad's wifi couldn't install it
>>100199836I made this up btw
>>100195425Which Debian? Unstable is very similar to Arch. Stable is a different thing, good for servers.
>is there a point in switching from arch to debian?Yeah, it's for when you want/need a more stable and predictable fixed release environment, where you don't have to worry about unnecessary/unwanted updates, or some core library updating and breaking something else.
>>100202641Pretty much this. I recently made the change to Debian stable after not being able to keep up with arch updates. Which I feel is important for security reasons. I can't afford the possibility of something breaking after an update, either. At least with debian I know the only time shit can break is when it's time for a full upgrade every 1-2 years Debian is great. apt is great.(controversial take becaise it trades robustness for simplicity)The only bad thing I noted was how bloated athe default "task-kde-desktop" install package is. I found the perfect command to install a minimal KDE plasma with apt. It's a little complex though because you have to not choose any DE when doing an install then run it from TTY. I can post it if you want.
>>100202716Please post
>>100202716>security reasonsAnother good point. From a security standpoint, it's arguably better to leave something like CentOS 7 without any updates for 2 years, than Arch for 2 months.
>>100195425just use what ever suits you
It's just the old stable/rolling dichotomy. For my personal and hobby pc Artix. For my pro workstation, Devuan, and for my servers, Devuan. Simple as
>>100195425Arch:pacstrap (incredible for fixing faulty partitions bs)pacman -R (pacman logs things and can uninstall packages neatly)Debian:none of the abovemaintainer got cucked by his wife and killed himselfYou know what to choose.>but arch is trannies>>>artix
>>100195425If you want latest versions of sw, arch can do that. Debian too if you want to run sid.. I prefer debian stable for main workstation, been with debian for around 2 decades now I think.Have been playing around with alpine lately, it's fun and certainly has a use case
>>100195425Gentoo cures distrohopping
>>100200246>>100201025basically the only issue I have is that is User1 adds something to the Collaboration folder, User2 can't delete it. Everybody is all about restricting delete privs but I specifically WANT to allow anybody is the Office Group to delete whatever they want in the Collaboration folder
