Vintage edition
1st for zakus
>>100109528>dildo lubed penuses>brain damageyou are trans btw?
>>100109528I don't see the point of overpriced zakus now that cheap zaku clones exists
Split gang summer, bo bo.
>>100110176What, the geon blacks? They're not that much cheaper than zakus last I checked.
>>100109581Dude, seek help, you really need it. You will never have sex with a real woman btw.
reminder that the HHKB studio costs $350 and comes with Kailh switches.
>>100110515>mechanical keyboard but... japan!
>>100110515But we can have our own customizable HHKB with qmk support from aliexpress.
>>100110585has anyone here tried the aliepress domes? how do they compare to authentic topres?
>>100110515
>>100110248tecsee bocchigeon blacks are also cheap if you are korean
What does /mkg/ thinks of chiclet keyboards?
Received my Model F Labs F77 reproduction just under a week ago. Was actually crazy pingy, much better now with floss mod.
Anyone ever try out the Fulcrum keyboard? wanted to build one last year.Speaking of cheap, though, are there any 104-key outemu blue boards out there for $20?
>>100112037Fellow F77 enjoyer
>>100112037>>100112327man he really needs to fix the recessed keys on the 104/122 model m style chassis already
>>100112037pings are nice i did the loom mod it made it sound like blue aps
>every recommendation requester is looking to spend $150 max if you're lucky, $100 more often, and sometimes as low as $50it's to the point where I almost want to say "no requests"
>>100113338The lower the budget the harder it is to recommend a really good keyboard, I understandHonestly, I kinda want literally everyone to buy F1-8X v2 for their personal keyboard maybe 1 extra PCB and just forget about it but people just want cheap shit
>>100112037idk how it sounds but it looks hot, love the skinny numpad that doubles as a normal-shaped nav cluster
>>100113487I don't need people to spend $400 but just upping their budget to 200 or 250 would open things up a lot
I am thoroughly convinced that splits are just a larp for sci-fi enjoyers. "just like in my favorite visionary 90s anime"
>>100114421splits what?
https://github.com/ThereminGoat/switch-scores so I found this neat thing. Now I want to buy some cheap switches that don't make as much noise as kalih V2 white but while this has a sound parameter it doesn't record how loud they are, any resources that might help me?
>>100114519>numerical scoreswhat a load of wasted effort (and money). this spreadsheet autism is almost completely meaningless.
>>100114715He has more info in other repos, the information is just laid out weirdly
>>100110965Dude, it is just a fucking rubber. Also they have different domes.
How do I get one of these sort of silicone/polyurethane covers for a Matias Tactile Pro version 4?Or for any other keyboard?
>>100115228just get a cloth? I got one Monokei cloth for free from the meetup
Is there anywhere you can swap keycaps? I have dozens of spares of everything but the ones I need. Surely there's someone out there that doesn't need these but wants an extra spacebar or whatever. I don't want to pay $115 fucking dollars for two keycaps.>OBLOTZKY SA OBLIVION V2
>>100116135Unfortunately you have to use reddit or discord for that
>>100116244Any subreddits or discords you recommend anon? I'm getting pretty desperate and my keyboard looks like shit in the meantime. Either I deal with big gaps or mismatched caps.
>>100116274mechmarket or something like that
>>100112037How scratchy is yours? I was awfully disappointed with the feeling of mine. My regular Model M is way smoother.
>>100108901what a beaut. one of the ones i never got for my collection. i assume theyre too expensive nowadays.
>>100116862They're not too expensive depending on condition. But most of the ones you'll find are yellowed pretty heavily. Nothing a bit of retrobrite can't fix.
>>100110515who buys with garbage lmao what is this layout
>>100119203That layout is older than you my dear zoomer
HHKB sucksTheir build quality sucks so bad
>>100119298Define good build quality
>>100108901Why is the enter big? This didn't look like iso to me
>>100119806It's a variant on the big ass enter, although it's not a full size big ass enter, and more like a medium ass enter since they made the right bracket key ] larger.
>>100119931ANSI is the best looking layout but god damn I love BIGass enter
>>100120053The only bad part about BAE is that it often was put on keyboards with a 1U backspace which is mega gay
>>100113487I'm not spending that much money on a board that's not full size nigga, mental illness.
>>100120224You're not spending that much because your finances are too tight for this sort of thing—that's ok, but don't lash out with envy and bitterness.Beautiful substantial tactile functional objects are a delight, to deny this is at best cope and at worst an inhuman dulness/insensibility. To pathologize the sensitive man's fine enjoyments as "mental illnesses" is peak normie boorishness.
Finally got taobao figured out, thought I was about to start getting everything I want for nickels. Turns out half the shit on here is the same price as aliexpress. Where are my fucking deals
>>100122550If you like beige, get some Leekbros caps
Does anyone here own a NIZ keyboard, if so how is it? I'm interested in Topre / Topre like boards but don't know if I want to pay the price for objectively feature lacking plastic keyboards that I may not like what so ever.
>>100122706I like beige but it doesn't fit any of my boards. Alas.
>>100123158I have. They're objectively pretty alright, but I found that the tactility they offered wasn't exactly as nice as Topre's. It's hard to explain, but Topre has a crisp "hard" feeling to the tactility, whereas Niz feels like typical rubberdomes. Niz does have some benfits, though, like MX compatible sliders for sticking custom caps. They use Costar stabs, though, which are a PITA to lube.This is a very good comparison between the two: https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=25640
My Model M was manufactured in 1985 and it's still going strong, all keys and lights still working. It's probably got more pubes under the keys than I have on my body at this point tho
>>100123745Make a keyboard out of your pubes
Does anyone make linear switches that actuate near the bottom out?
Hello, I am looking for a new keyboard to build.The features I am looking for are the following:>QMK/VIA support>Wireless/bluetooth support>Aluminum base >Lots of color options for the base>Little to no gaps between the function keysJust throw some ideas. My budget can be flexible, so I will research the suggested options.
>>100124155cycle8 satisfies everything except the last bit
Why /g/ is so obsessed with troons?
>>100125229>people keep shitting on the street>"what the fuck, who shit on the street?">"WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH SHIT???"different troon, same old retardation
>>100125229This board has a history with faggy crossdressers who are more than likely trans monstrosities now. A lot of these fags within the hobby make videos while wearing girly oversized sweaters, too.Embarrassing "men"
>>100125229I don't know man, I went to the meetups and there are no troons, it's a peak sausage fest
>>100125229I have contempt for them because they're abominations. They're disgusting, physically and mentally, they're narcissistic wrecks whose very existence as a showcase of mental illness does much to undermine faith in the modern medical system. They are almost always politically oriented towards marxism which is the worst evil ever devised by man, though they are most often unwittingly used as tools by political agendas they understand very little. They have no personality or knowledge of anything beyond their personal identity crisis and worship a cult of self. Every single issue that exists in the world, to the trannie, is "how does this personally offend/disenfranchise/upset ME?" To them, sexual deviancy IS what they are as people, they have nothing else, just as how a low-accomplishment incel racist has nothing but his skin color- trannyism and inceldom are two sides of the same coin, two forks of the same path. Both are identity cults.Ultimately they are victims, but they are victims who have been coddled to the point of insufferability, and are permanently broken as a result. Past a certain point, one cannot blame early childhood experience for one's failures, and each person must take responsibility for the adult they've become.You use the word "obsessed" as if to paint a negative moral judgement by implication on those who would discuss and reveal the problems of transgenderism, but it's a weak effort. The more the terrible tragedy of trannyism, body mutilation, and mental butchery at the hands of a politically-oriented corrupt medical establishment have a light shone on them, the better.https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1713053347284408.webm
>he has things I don't like>he must be a troon!>I bet he has chopped off his dick!!!God, 4poojeetchan is the most pathetic imageboard in the whole world. Literally a mind virus like leftism.
>>100125387You have never had sex with a real woman and will never have. You are literally a chud.
>>100125410I'm married with two kids. I'm sorry you can't communicate seriously without resorting to meaningless shitpost tactics, which says a lot. You're incapable of stringing together any combination of words or memes that will "insult" me.
>>100125387Bro, you can't blame literally everything on troons, especially when seeing things you don't like
>>100125424Sure, buddy. Chuds can't have kids.
>>100125432>blame literally everythingI don't know to what you're referring. I blame trannies for their behavior, their political leanings, and the damage they do to societies and children. This does not imply they're responsible for "everything" wrong in the world. Although such a victimhood complex is another of the typical mental health issues of the common troon. The left emphatically sees itself as victims in every issue, and even assign moral virtue to being victimized. This is why they keep setting themselves on fire. The issue doesn't matter to them, what matters is the pain they feel, and the burning (no pun intended) need they have to make everyone else experience their suffering vicariously.
>>100125453Does it happen in the same world where we live or only in your twatter-world, chudjak?
go to another thread for this discussion, please. this has nothing to do with keyboards
>>100108901perfection...
>>100125508Dude, this is what I mean, you will see these chudjaks with mind virus in every thread on this board. They are sick and obsessed with troons and spoil everything.
>>100125505Ignoring reality doesn't make it go away, but I can see you've made your choice. I'm sorry that every day is pain for you, I'd say solutions for help exist but it is difficult to find them in the murk of this current healthcare crisis. Most of the people you're relying on to "help" you through gender dysphoria have been hurting you, but they tell you things that stroke your ego and let you ignore having to take responsibility for your life. It feels good so you go with it, but much like a morbidly obese food addict you're just doing yourself more harm than good by avoiding, and even glorifying, the problem.
>>100125534What's the colour of that keyboard? deep purple?
>>100125549It is an ordinary Topre Novatouch with shitty soft touch coating.
>>100125573>soft touch coatingOh I see, you can polish that shit off after some time
>>100124030I guess it's hall effect or nothing huh...
>>100125586I don't want even touch it lol, it is unpleasant feeling. Also it collects all fingerprints.
>>100125605They are just rubber coats. Dry them in direct sunlight and they will melt, after that, you can finish them up with tissue paper or cloth
recs for wasting 200$?
>>100125635No, it looks like matte paint, but IPA doesn't affect it at all.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KEYCAPS TO GET HOLY FUCK
>>100127406Beige
>>100127406I recommend keycaps made of PBT with cherry profile.
>>100113338Well, what are your recommendation(s) for someone new to the world of Actually Good Keyboards? Is there a functional-out-of-the-box option worth a damn, or should I go ahead and get comfortable with the idea of purchasing components separately?
>>100126647neo80 or the new neo split that's coming out
>>100127499there are some good out-of-the-box fully built boards, but there are also boards which are a great package but the switches they come with are a bit mid (e.g. Monokei Standard).
>>100125387>You use the word "obsessed" as if to paint a negative moral judgement by implication on those who would discuss and reveal the problems of transgenderism, but it's a weak effort.I can literally hear the tipping of the fedora as I read this
keyboards
kostom keybort
So is it just Unicomp & Model F Labs as available choices for buckling spring unless I want vintage tech?
>>100134038Yes, though personally I think the new Model F keyboards suck
>>100134123A couple in this thread look a little too much like inflated pool toys. I love the feel and sound of buckling spring, but maybe I want something a little more modern than the same model that has been made for the last 40+ years.
Are keychron brown switches different from cherry in any way?
How kino is this vintage keyboard?
I didn't consider that when I change layouts, the little nubs on F and J move with those keys. Do I file them off or can I order custom nuphy keycaps for individual letters? I also need to add nubs to T and N so I guess I should put some super glue or something down.
>>100134267Honestly I just recommend looking around for an old one and screw/bolt modding it. It's easy. If you get an F, you don't need to mod it at all since they don't have plastic rivets.
>>100134361In my experience everyone does brown differently; most are Cherry-like but you can't assume they will be. Wuque Studio brown has almost nothing in common with Cherry MX Brown. Kailh brown feels pretty different as well. Keychron's switches are surprisingly cheap, which doesn't mean they're bad—just another difference. Gateron makes them, I think. Gateron does make good cheap switches, but they aren't all good. The upper housing is PC (yuck), whereas cherry browns are nylon top and bottom. Keychron says their brown is pre-lubed, although sometimes (e.g. Outemu Silent Lime) that claim can be kinda bogus. I am wary of pre-lubed tactiles because sometimes they do some lazy method for lubing up the whole stem and that's not appropriate for a tactile switch. I'd prefer them not lubed at all so I can do it carefully myself after break-in. Cherry's are of course not lubed, which is maybe a good thing, because their scratchiness requires a long break-in-period, and lubed switches break in far slower.Keychron's brown is pretty similar to Cherry's in terms of spring weight (50g vs Cherry's 55g spring) with slightly better spring consistency (+/- 10g vs Cherry's +/- 15g) but still badI have heard it said that Gateron's nylon is not quite the same as Cherry's, so Gateron nylon housing switches tend to have a slightly brighter sound than Cherry's, which are a bit deeper. With all that said, I can't find any force travel diagrams to compare the tactile bump, that more than anything else will make it feel similar or not-similar. So I don't know. Someone on one forum said they're almost the same as Gateron browns, which in my experience are comparable to Cherry browns. They should have a bit less stem wobble than Cherry.
>>100121007Nah that's not the issue, I'm just not spending that much money on an inherently gimped product is all.>"functional"Yeah I love ignoring the fact it's missing functionality too.>normielmfao dumbass
>>100136695>that much moneyWe are talking about the price of a pair of boots. You are talking about it like it's a big sum. Money is obviously an issue. That's fine as long as you're honest. You are not being honest.
I can't decide between Keychron V1 Max and K2 Pro, halpthey are about the same price for me
>>100136695As a full size enjoyer, I've never really felt a loss of functionality from a TKL myself.
>>100136820Nice bro. You owned him. Us richchads are the only ones who should enjoy keyboards.Since we are both 1%er with no money issues, post your latest keyboard get. I spent 1K on this custom board/case I imported from Norway. Its only the price of new tires, so its not >that much money...
>>100137163I can't afford something like that, because I don't make that kind of money. I recently bought a Neo80 for my brother and am keeping a look-out for a good ~$300-400 full size gb, which is what I can afford. I have a 10-year-old daskeyboard.You fundamentally misunderstand my posts if you think I am positioning myself as a rich guy laughing at the poors. I sympathize with them. I dislike the dishonesty/cope. If it hurts to buy a nice keyboard, that anon should say so. I don't respect people who say "that's pointless trash for mentally ill people" when they mean "it would be a waste for me to spend my limited funds on this." A nice keyboard isn't as important as nice boots, or quality food, or rent. But it's still nice.
>>100136820The price of a pair of boots that can't even do their job properly. That's what paying for anything less than full size is.Going>hurrr function layers hurrris like saying "well I can tape a piece of steel over the boots I spend $400 on". You just look like a retard is all.>>100136965If all you're doing is typing responses online all day then yeah, I guess.>>100137389>still going on with his RP autismlmfaoIt's an inherently gimped product and nothing changes that simple fact. This really just sounds more like projection to me and you're upset I made fun of you for paying that much for something with lacking functionality.The pissing contest you worked yourself into really seals the deal with it and you're seething I'm not joining in.
>>100137453>If all you're doing is typing responses online all day then yeah, I guess.I program. The only time I miss the numpad is when I'm doing shit in Excel, and it's not really that much slower to do my calculations on the num row. Are you a hunt and pecker by any chance? People get thoroughly butt-hurt about anything less than a full size tend to be pretty slow typists in my experience. Which is understandable, I guess.
>>100135705>If you get an F, you don't need to mod it at all since they don't have plastic rivets.You will, however, have to contend with a much more difficult/unintuitive reassembly process should you ever need to disassemble itAnd if the foam hasn't been replaced, it will need to be at some point since it's probably already disintegrated and foam is basically required for reliable operation (without foam, my F AT just randomly stopped working occasionally, with most keypresses no longer registering for several hours at a time)
>>100137481I've been touch typing ever since early middle school, wouldn't say I'm all that fast, but I'm competent enough. I used to use Excel regularly and now I'm just far better with a numpad. Entering numbers for anything but passwords or a couple words in a sentence is just better and more comfortable with the numpad. I also regularly do calculations with it throughout the day.Don't see the point of paying 400 bucks for gimped trash that looks, sounds and feels the same as nearly every other trend chasing board currently in production. Full size boards just look better, they're complete. I don't need to get a separate numpad that is going to look different than the the primary board or use inherently inefficient function layer autism, all the functionality is built in. It's a perfect mix of form and function."Trimming the fat" because you're a super low DPI autist gaymer or minimalist fag obsessed with saving desk space is just queer as hell to me. Needing a big ol' empty desk with shrunken down tools or you start freaking out definitely does reek of mental illness, and that's where this obsession with non-full size boards comes from.
>>100137668It's fair enough if you don't want to pay money for that keyboard, it's all about what *you* want out of a keyboard, after all. I just disagree with the "loss of functionality" statement. You can program these keyboards to however you like. I think you can make an argument for a loss of efficiency -- which I personally don't have an issue with -- but that's another thing entirely. For me, I can go all the way down to a 60% and still be efficient. It's like anything else, you just learn to adapt. Statements like these: >Needing a big ol' empty desk with shrunken down tools or you start freaking out definitely does reek of mental illness, and that's where this obsession with non-full size boards comes from.Just come across as weirdly antagonistic. I don't know why you're being so hostile. Hobby's all about personal preference, if people like small keyboards and work best on that, then so be it.
>>100137730And that's the issue, I don't need to go out of my way to make a full size keyboard usable for me. And it's not really an argument, it's just a simple fact. It literally does "Just Work™" from the get go with no additional setup required, even if that setup is easy.I know TKLfags and everything below it always whinge about "not needing" a numpad, that's fine I guess, but acting like they're good boards to just recommend to anyone and everyone is a dumb idea. Also I don't really see the issue with me bringing up that stuff, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.The way I see it boards without numpads are kinda similar to multitools compared to a tool set . Like yeah, you CAN get (mostly) the same functionality out of it with more work put in fiddling with it, but I wouldn't recommend a multitool to someone over a tool set, ever, especially if it costs as much as said tool set.
Why did all of you mechanical keyboard faggots have to ruin retro computers for everyone? I just want a matching keyboard for my apple iigs but because it has some faggot alps key switches that I don't even care about I now have to pay retarded prices for it.
>>100138446Blame the boomers like chyros hyping up old ass alps switches.
it's been about 8 months since I went from 108-key qwerty to a 58-key split with canary layout.I had heard people getting used to it in like 2 months but only now I'm starting to get good enough to use it on a reasonable level of productivity (I couldnt cold turkey it, I have actual work to get done)It still has some rough edges still but overall it has been very fun.
Just tried out some MT3 caps, pretty fun to type with, and quite similar to KSA. The spacebar is ever so slightly less sharp on the bottom edge than KSA so it's not as immediately jarring to type on.
>>100138689I often feel like an odd man out because I actually quite enjoy typing on KSA. In your opinion how does MT3 compare in size and feel?
>>100138689MT3 is pretty great, only bad thing about it is being owned by drop.
>>100138929The size/height is about the same, it's definitely a taller profile. I'm using a set made of ABS and they're thick and so are the PBT ones, but unlike the ABS sets they are pretty much always dye-sub instead of double shot. The feel is quite similar as well since the keys also have that slight cup shape that makes it rather comfortable to type on when you are accurate.And don't get me wrong, I like KSA too, I just think that spacebar is a bit rough personally. I am DYEL though so I bet if I worked out my hands/forearms even a little bit on the regular it would be less straining over time. I imagine if someone is the type that slams the shit out of their keys when they type that KSA probably wouldn't bother you at all.>>100139078True, and IIRC isn't Drop owned by Corsair now? Bastards have been clawing their way into everything for the last several years it seems.
>>100137841>I don't need to go out of my way to make a full size keyboard usable for meFor me it wasn't much of an adjustment. I would like to get a full southpaw build, though. Best of both worlds in that case.
I have TKL leopold on cherry brown. I used it only once, when I bought it 5 years ago. It just sits in his box.
>>100139975you'll never break in those mx browns at this rate
>>100139991I just want to sell it, but I doubt someone will buy it.
>>100140004it's extremely easy to sell things, just don't ask for too much money
>>100140033I live among people which are worse than jews.
just spent another $70 on china junk. getting some gateron milky greens, some outemu silent lime, some 105g0 lube for springs (also in the mail), some stabsyes the switch choices are retarded but I didn't pay more than 20c per switch. I am optimistic...
>>100140375Didn't even know Milky Greens was a thing
>>100110176pls direct me to them
>>100135284>tenkeylessFuck off.
>>100139078Shouldn't these things be convex?
>>100140755No, that would only increase how much your finger has to move between rows.
>>100140746Fucking zoomers and their small tranny boards.
>>100140729https://unikeyboards.com/products/tecsee-bocchi-linear-switch-10pcshttps://geon.works/products/geon-switcheshttps://divinikey.com/products/geon-black-linear-switches
>>100140892Thanks.
>>100140796Fuck off, troon-obsessed chudjak. You will never procreate.
>>100140746retard zoomer
>>100141021Anon... I was being sarcastic.
>>100141068I am sorry.
>>100141279I can never unsee the 'FAG' in cyrillic sets.
>>100141279I'm glad the days of EnjoyPBT are behind us
>>100141350I have 2 sets of blanks and 2 with legends. And I can say, enjoyPBT is a crap, mix of pbt and some another shitty plastic. It became shiny so fucking fast, it is embarrassing.
>>100141372>mix of pbt and some another shitty plasticThat would be ABS. PBTfans do the same thing with their caps.
>>100141623No, they don't react with acetone. Abs turns into goo after contact with it.
>>100141634Leave it in acetone long enough and it will. The ratio of PBT to ABS is also unknown with these manufacturers.
>>100141644Dude, acetone instantly destroys abs plastic. You don't need to wait at all.
>>100141656You do if it's mixed with PBT.
Now I'm convinced that good, consistent springs really do have a huge impact on the build
>>100141740Yes, they really do. I have milky yellow gaterons and their springs are so inconsistent.
>>100141910I mean is it really any surprise with this listed?
>>100141033humorless cretin
>>100141922Yes, I am not so smart. Also these springs are so scratchy if you wobble the switch.
>>100141910I swapped to Geon 22mm single-stage 55g springs and now my alphas feel very consistent. give them a try, it might be TX Spring or Geon Spring but I think Geon ones are better in consistency (±0.3g)
Can anyone recommend a good 75% wireless kb? Ideally low profile, ideally with a dongle, don't care if it has Bluetooth, how costumizable it is, etc. I just want a solid keyboard. Budget is 200 euro.
>>100142305https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboardhttps://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard
>>100142400cheers, anon
>>100108901Best 50€ mechanical keyboard?
>>100142639Don't cheap out on your keyboard
>>100142639If that's your budget, you're better off sticking with rubber dome or chiclet boards. Or try to get lucky with finding a used Model M I guess
>>100125387Poor old boomerMetaphysical evil truly exists in this universe
>>100111008rubber dome with springs*
>>100119931it always bedazzled me that the ISO Enter/Return key doesn't mimick the shape of the return symbol and is, instead, flipped around.BIGass is definitely the gentleman's choice.
>>100108901I wish grey and beige came back in fashion. Computer cases and peripherals look so soulful in such colors.
>>100142305https://store.monokei.co/products/monokei-systemsnever tried one but monokei is a good brand as far as I know.Low profile, dongle, solid, 75%.BUT it's a preorder.
>>100143495You can buy plenty of new keyboards in these colors. Probably cases too
KB- 7953 or KB - 892630€ each used which one is worth it
>>100144980Both rubber nvm
my tx springs just arrived but I'm going on vacation tomorrow so no time to inspect them or do anything with themoh well. back to workwill let you all know in a few weeks whether they are kino or not
im kinda thinking i need a tenkeyless keyboard for more mouse room... i use a leopold with blue switches that's over 10 years old now, what would be a smooth transition that isn't too expensive?
>>100145594Define 'too expensive'If you want the absolute best there's some extra f1-8x v2 units left on keebforall
>>100146068lol wtf even is this thing? it has no keysalso too expensive is like >$150
best low profile keyboards?
>>100138446how much do you think my monterey blue swapped one is worth lol
>>100145452There are only 2 things that will make or break a build1 is stabilizer tuning2 is consistency2.1 lubing consistency2.2 spring weight consistencyPeople usually skip 2.2 and keep asking why their build is not as good as someone else build
>>100143495>>100144173Yes. A NCR and beige caps is awfully cheap, too.
>>100125387Saved.
are there any good front legend shinethrough keycaps?
>>100149559post programming socks
>>100143599Looks great but the pre-order part is a deal breaker as I need one for work asap. The Keychron k3 max the other anon linked is likely the one I'll go for.
i JUST got my keychron and the absolute first thing i tried to do after plugging it in was turn the backlight off per their quickstart instructions and it didn't work. i tried to program a key in VIA to "BL off" and that didn't do anything. then i programmed it to "RBG toggle" and that seemed to work. what's the difference between BL off and RBG toggle?
>>100150468RGB toggle is probably the proper command, and it toggles it on & off. Where as BL off would not be able to turn it back on.
Are Boba U4Ts still the king?
>>100151038For tactiles, yea pretty much.
>>100151051Thanks, then I will order them.Heard about some MMD princess cheap chink shit or whatever but then I guess they are just FOTM garbage?
>>100151074I remember reading good things about 'em, but never tried them myself. I'm typing on some 68g boobas right now for what it's worth.
>>100148365>they come pre-yellowedYou can't make this shit up.
>>100151190That's just a little thing called lighting, anon. Yellowing plastics in the way that you're talking about takes quite a long time.
so I'm interested in buying this shit https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CCP8KYGG but from videos this seems a bit too loud for my environment so I want to ask for switch recs to reduce noise, I'm fine with linears
>>100151792hape lucy & gateron gecko are both great silent linears.
>>100151792Ewww it's so ugly though
>>100151943go ahead, show me what you think is pretty>>100151805thank you anon, ill take a look
>>100152042>go ahead, show me what you think is prettymy gf
>>100152054>shows nothing
trying out my first set of Cherry caps. shenpo quality rocks, can't believe these are this nice for this price
Cherry caps are overrated. OEM is unironically nicer. Normie layout is also goated. Wtf are enthusiasts talking about?
>my keychron died after 3 monthswell this brand sucks
>>100152636lmfao seriously?
>>100152636how come :(
>>100152764yeah>>100152783I dunno I didn't even modify it or anything. It was completely stock. Just randomly stopped working.
>>100152944>I dunno I didn't even modify it or anything. It was completely stock. Just randomly stopped working.Return it
>>100108901>decide i want to finally upgrade from my ~15-20yr old dell keyboard to a fancy backlit one>i bet /g/ has a good keyboard thread!>acronyms out the ass>flame wars over what color keys you use as if blue and silent green(?) are crips vs bloods>half keyboard half... mountainscape? monstrosities like >>100109528What the fuck. As a fa/tg/uy im equally apalled as i am impressed, I feel like a fucking boomer finding the internet for the first time. I want a keyboard with a numberpad, USB wired, backlit with just solid (non-flashing or color changing) soft white light and the ability to swap keys. Halp plz. As tribute in the typical internet custom of yore, have some tits
>GroupbuysLOLHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>100153058I don't really feel qualified to give you advice or guidance because I literally just got my first mechanical keyboard today, but I think a lot of it is bullshit. There are soooo many switches and so much worry about tuning the sound just right. Like if you want to have certain colors and lights and fun keycaps, that's fine. Not my cup of tea, but it's all good fun. When people get all serious about different switches that are barely any different, it's just ridiculous.
>>100153058>fancy backlitYou came to the wrong place
>>100153058Epomaker RT100 is good for your needs.
>>100153058>pretending to think "silent green" refers to a keycap"playing the fool" for (you)s is fine, but please be more subtle
>>100153462Brilliant, thanks anon. But what the fuck is a miniTV
after ten years of break in my cherry mx browns are starting to feel pretty good. finally ready to lube and spring swap?
>>100153894>after ten years of break in my cherry mx browns are starting to feel pretty goodStockholm syndrome.
who makes the best quality OEM profile caps? I actually like OEM I just want ones that are thick and consistent and so on
What's a good and easy way to get the grease out of the keys? I've been using this keyboard for over 6 years now and I miss that fresh feel that it used to have when I pressed any key. Now every time I type something, each key immediately gets greasy to the point where you can see the fingerprint. I hate this.
>>100154402buy new caps, your stock abs caps have become slick with wear.go on aliexpress, spend between $20 and $40 on some caps you like the look of. go for pbt (dye sub or double shot) if you want them not to get 'greasy' again in 5 years.
>>100153894This is just shitposting, right?
>>100154438>buy new capsWell, fuck.
>>100154770Dude, just spend some welfare money not on drugs.
How is this? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NYB1CGY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>100153058That's nearly anything. https://keyboards.justbuythisthing.com/?form-factor=100%25&wired=true&backlit=trueI personally like the mountainscape monstrosities. I owned one briefly.
>>100156571Shine is good actually
>>100156612I have the G915 and I like using it. Custom mechanical keyboards aren't things you buy for cost efficiency, it's a tinkering hobby.
>>100154603it's a shitpost but it's also mostly true, my mx browns are about 8 years old now and I only recently learned what spring swapping and lubing is about so I could give that a goon the other hand the switches are getting near to 'end of life', I've had to replace a couple that weren't actuating when pressed (e key and shift key). so investing effort in them might be a bad idea.
>>100156571How to polish keycaps?
Anyone got experience with the predator aethon 300?I got it on a sale a year ago but now my space bar feels soggy i.e. doesn't jump back immediately like other keys. I tried taking it apart without proper tools but the switches don't seem to come off. Do I just need the proper tools or is it just not possible to take this keyboard apart?
>>100159086> the switches don't seem to come offdid you desolder them from the pcb?also you'll want to use a switch puller if there is a plate
>be three/four (thumb sometimes) typist for most of my life, able to handle ~120 WPM just fine>get into vim>decide to learn touch typing>noticeable strain in my left arm and wrist when going at a high speedNever even experienced fatigue or pain when typing before. I don't think touch typing is for me if it leads to shit like this. Is this why so many people are getting RSI?
>>100154390bumping for this. Really want to know if there's some OEM equivalent to e.g. Keebox Shenpo caps (have I mentioned I love my new Shenpo caps? should I say it again? they're so fucking good bros, got the BoB and Terminal sets and am really impressed with both)I like OEM as a profile but all the ones I've seen are a bit mid
>>100161033I had this exact same experience. Started to learn touch typing and as soon as my speed was getting up into normal range I started feeling strains I had never felt before. I don't think hands are meant to move like that
>>100161033sometimes it can be one particular motion or key combo that is doing this. When I played a lot of Call of Duty Zombies recently I was frequently reaching with my left hand to hit M for the map while also pressing W/etc, began to get worrying pains in my left wrist. I worked out that this particular keypress was likely causing it and switched to using a more comfortable key for the map, pain went away.I'd recommend thinking carefully while you type about which motions feel a bit unnatural and adjust your style to eliminate them
>>100161033you have a wrist rest?
>>100161389Yeah.>>100161105There's definitely some specific problem presses, especially when the word is mostly based around the left hand. I may try something like colemak in the future if I have the time to see if that's a better experience.
are akko keyboards good?
My mechanical shitboard just got rekt recently. I found a keychron V10 going for $90. Should I get em bros? I feel like I'd love the alice layout
Springs are here, it's time to fuck around and find out
has anyone tried both the akko penguin and one of gk silent tactile switches? I wouldn't mind a comparison from someone who tried them
Does anyone have any experience with the new Ducky One 3 models? I'm considering purchasing a TKL one but from what I've read, Ducky's overall quality has fallen off a bit compared to what it used to be.Do you figure it's as good as the Ducky One 2 model was, or is it worse?
>>100158644look up "acetone smoothing*" on jewtube
>>100153044>>100152764>>100152783>>100152636It ended up having a reset button under the spacebar. Holding that down rebooted it and it works again...I had unplugged it and also flipped the switch to off, so not sure why that fixed it.
so, where should I be getting switches from? what are some reputable sites
>>100164063So in the end you were just a retard who blamed the product?
>>100164128I enjoyed sampling loads of meme switches from Milktooth, but if you're buying 70+ of the more popular e.g. Cherry or Gateron switches you should go to Taobao. There are some good deals on Aliexpress too.
>>100164128Depends on where are you in the world
>>100161984This man knows the length he wants. What switch are they going in?My springs came the other day too but I got hauled away to go for a vacation, I won't be able to try them out for another two weeks. Agony.
>>100164715They are going in some mx2a I ordered from taobao and yeah I prefer longer springs because I like faster recoil and slower curve
>>100164461I don't want to deal with agents>>100164476im in a third world country, but in practice, I'll have shit shipped to usa and then a reshipper will send it home. For that reason I'll also need to have tracking and invoice (which I assume most site should have who you never know).
>>100164141No, the product is retarded because>turning on and off doesnt actually turn it off and on to reboot it>holding the reboot key sequence doesnt work when it's in whatever state it was inand the documentation is terrible because >it doesn't detail that reset button, nor does their faq
>>100165513I literally got a keychron yesterday and their documentation outlines the process in great detail.
>>100165513don't @ me retard. It was your fault
>>100165866It's not in mine or the online resources.>>100166110no
>>100166147this is /g/ not your twitter hugbox for mentally stunted people
>>100166147what model?
>>100114868Damn, is this compatible with NiZ-type builds? So cheap, and I love that there are 25g options.
>>100165513thanks for outing yourself as a whiny retard
Recommend me a red keyboard that's aluminum and 65% that I can actually buy right NOW instead of waiting half a year.
>>100166692get a keychron q2 max and put some red keycaps on it
>>100165513I'm sort of on your side just because I don't think a keyboard should fail in this way ever, even if the docs clearly outline what to do to get it working againI will never buy a wireless keyboard for this reason
>>100166692https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/yunzii-al71?_pos=46&_sid=b09b858d2&_ss=r no opinion on its quality, dont know anything. but there you go
>>100167146nvm that site always baits me, it's out of stock
>>100166110nobody @'d you because this isn't twitter you fucking nigger
>>100166147what model is it? i'll find the info in 3 fucking minutes, i guarantee.
>>100166692tofu65 in red:https://dangkeebs.com/products/kbdfans-tofu65-2-0?variant=43821151224029https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/products/tofu65-2-0?variant=41382679281803chimera65 in "berserker"https://cannonkeys.com/products/chimera65?variant=41721833357423matrix navi in china red:https://swagkeys.com/collections/keyboard/products/matrix-navi?variant=44984909922557that's all I could find, sorry if some of these are actually pre orders I can't fucking tell half the time. keyboard vendor websites are a major pain in the ass
>>100168004>>100167146Thanks lads. Something to start with.
>>100162768I own a handful of Duckys. Hotswap is nice to have. You get your standard fare braided cable, switch puller, and keycap puller. The foam between the plate and PCB is a nice upgrade, and foam in the bottom of the case. Stabs are plate-mounted, and with a touch of lube. I personally have not run into the key chatter complaints I've seen online. RGB programming and macro recording is the same. I think all the macros are the same between the One 2 TKLs and the One 3 TKLs. Sounds nicer, but is slightly more annoying to get into with the plastic love-handles they have (but at least you don't feel like you're going to break the clips as much as the One 2s). You're only getting stock Cherry switches in the One 3s, and it's still an aluminum plate. It definitely feels like a glow-up from the One 2s, though I'm not keen on some of the color options. The majority of the One 3s come with OEM profile keycaps, except for the Gossamer Pink, Mist Grey and Cosmic which have Cherry profile keycaps. The recent One 2 Pros are not hotswap, but add a lot of the acoustic improvements the One 3s have. If you don't need hotswap I think those are floating around $100. Those are mostly Cherry switches with a couple Kailh BOX switches thrown in as options. It's hard to say if either of the above versus the standard One 2 is worth it for you, but I hope this helps. Compared to some of my other boards, they aren't seeing as much use as they used to. Still fun to use from time to time when I just want to use a plastic board. I stuck a One 3 Mini in a Tofu Redux case recently and it's been nice to revisit and dress up.
Does this hobby have the same retards as the audio game where they think their gear are GPU and they can upgrade linearly?
>>100168684it has trannies and redditors if that's what you're askinganyone willing to give up frequently used keys (they justify this by claiming layers are just as good) is a trannyanyone who signs up for a swap or group buy is a redditor
>>100151792>switch recs to reduce noise, I'm fine with linearsI use haimu heartbeats and really like them. other experience has been tealios and I like the haimu better
>>100168440Huge thanks for this, man.Much appreciated.Really thinking of getting a One 3 TKL Matcha, since it doesn't have RGB's and it seems pretty nice.Your input definitely helped.
Which Aliexpress vendor makes the best GMK clones?
>>100168856Depends on what colorway/material you want.
>>100151051>>100151038>Are Boba U4Ts still the king?Where do I buy?
Guys, do you use sound-absorbing materials like flexible polyurethane foam (FPF) to kill an echo inside your keyboard's aluminum case?
cherry clears opeom
>>100168748Hello, tranny-redditor.
>>100169899No? we buy alu case for alu sound, why would you put foam in alu case and make it sound like and abs/pc keyboard?
>>100168748Reddit zoomers hate group buyOGs love group buy because it is the only way to get things done
>>100170217I don't like an echo and sound of springs.
>>100170740Just lube your springs then?
>>100170791No, I am not going to do it, too much hassle.
>>100170805Just donut dip those niggas, or bag lube them.
>>100170805Then get the fuck out
>>100170866Make me, you little son of a bimbo. I barely found some strength to lube stabs on my 6 y.o. keyboards.
>>100169899Foam makes all keyboard sound same. If you want a more bass dead sound then just get a plastic keyboard. Much cheaper
slightly unrelated, but im looking at buying a unicomp soon. if anyone has used one, are they any good?
>>100169532Aliexpress. Also check out MMD Princess switches or kailh box royal (louder but tactile af)
>>100169899I'm new to this and my aluminum board is still in the mail but if there's one thing I've learned from watching Taehatypes and Blacksimon and being brainwashed by this thread it's that "foam bad"
>>100170805y-you can't just say stuff like that around here
>>100171914they still have 2 key rollover, right?
Any recommendation for ISO 100% 105 keys available in Europe?candykeys are all out of stock for ISO ones, keychron only processes with paypal even if they look like the best option.
>>100173413>ISO 100% 105 keyhttps://www.wasdkeyboards.com/wasd-v3-105-key-iso-custom-mechanical-keyboard.html>available in EuropeEverything is available in Europe.
>>100173089Foam isn't bad if you want to make your plastic keyboard to sound fuller, its bad when you trying to make your overpriced metal keyboard sound like plastic keyboardAt this point one should just buy plastic keyboard
>>100173974even then that's only if you have a small plastic board like a 60% or the plastic is especially thin and sad-sounding. A big plastic TKL or full-size will probably sound better without.
except for clicky keyboards (which you should never use), anyone who cares about the sound of their keyboard is objectively a retard. it's a typing instrument you fucking loser.
realistically, how long should I expect switches to last
>>10017463550m presses or more
>>100112037what the expensive ass shit is that. 400 dollars plus insane shipping costs to europe. nah man while I would love one, the prices are insane. are they even worth it?
>muh clicky badreddit tranny opinion discarded, you don't even deserve a (You)
>>100174635More than 10 years of usage
>>100159086Is your board hot swappable? If not your going to need to get a soldering gun
>>100171914I own both a New model M and a Mini M. Both are good to go. The Mini m has the added benefit of having 8-key rollover
>>100175072Clickies are pretty fun. The only ones I've used before were the MX blues but they were A-Okay for what they were with the only real downside being everyone and their grandmother could hear you type if you weren't in a well insulated room. Granted I also enjoyed typing on MX Brown so I may not have the most refined taste.
>>100176843>can enjoy mx blue>can enjoy mx brownNo, you're a good gentleman with refined taste
>>100168760Hell yeah. Matcha looks excellent in person too. I would recommend redistributing the lube on the stabs since the factory lubing isn't perfect. Unsandwiching the plate, foam and PCB is easy though.
People hate on clicky switches because they still live under mom's roof and she doesn't like it when you're ERP-ing it up with some boymeat online on the BOX Jades at 1:30 AM.
>>100177080That seems idiot specific, anon
>>100174635Even the old alps switches rated for 20m presses will last decades. Nowadays switches are rated for 50m or 100m presses which basically means they'll outlive you. Anything hall effect would last many billions of presses which might as well be invincible.
>>100174539this. it seems like most keyboard "hobbyists" just care about gay lights and keycaps and how the keyboard sounds.
I love all switches. Scratchy or smooth, ultra-tactile or linear, nylon or polycarbonate, light or heavy, long springs or short, clicky or silent. Never met a switch I didn't like, unless it was broken
>>100178979I don't "care about the sounds", I just use the sounds to judge what the keyboard is. The sounds tell me about the materials, the fit and finish, etc. It is not for the sake of the sounds that I obsess over the sound, it is because they are a sure indicator of the things that really matter.
>>100178979Only 3 things that matter are>how it looks>how it feels>how it soundsJust like any hobby in the worldIf you don't care you can just buy cheap $7 keyboard and be done with it lol
>>100179254firstly, function over form, alwayssecondly, form still matters, but excessive customization is fucking gay - in any hobby. the least gay thing to do with a keyboard with regards to the sound is to make it as quiet as possible, because that's practical. modding it to make it sound cool is gay. i guess i shouldn't be surprised by you people. after all, half the pics that get posted here have anime desk mats and other childish/gay accessories.
>>100179610Stay mad
>>100179619i shall
I bought alpacas and they are TOO LIGHT
>>100170805Guess you better get used to that sound then
>>100179875Swap in heavier springs.
>>100179610>excessive customization is fucking gayWhat does excessive customization even mean? I agree that trying to get your keyboard to "thock" is for fags, but I don't get people who are drawn to this hobby and then have this attitude of hating anything that isn't a full-size keychron or some shit.
>>100180121>What does excessive customization even mean?In this specific case:-any visual customization beyond different colored keycaps. if the keycaps have anything on them besides their normal characters, e.g. cute little symbols or design themes, they're fucking gay.-functional customization by way of ultra-specific switches. there are too many fucking switches and the more exclusive and obscure they are, the more retarded their names get. there should be like 20 different switches at most.-and lastly, customizing the sound beyond making it quieter. like the feel of your switches, but they're too loud and annoying to you or those around you? do your little case modding tricks to quiet it down. other than that, there's no practical reason to make them sound louder or any different.
>>100179610>function over formGo get some cheap rubberdome with RGB then?>form still mattersThen get tkl rubberdome with RGB>but excessive customization is fucking gayNigger at this point just get one rubberdomeGet the fuck out of 'custom' keyboard sphere if you don't value customization, you ape
>>100180306That's retarded anon
>>100179052You're gay
I thought I'd like good tactiles and my problem was just with cherry browns, but MAN I really hate the feeling of these gateron jupiter bananas
>>100180810>gateron jupiter bananasyou made this up didn't you?
>>100180355>waahhh, get out of my secret club because you don't like all the gay unnecessary shit that I like.
>>100180306>>100179610Some good and some bad in here. I think you have some good instincts but your application of them is confused, and ends up being wrong.Fine-tuning the sound of a keyboard is fundamentally different from installing "artisan keycaps" and other such evils. And keycaps—well, we'll get to that, but for now, the sound—Let's first consider why artisan caps, one kind of extreme, are bad. They are aesthetically repulsive and jarring in a keyboard, and their appeal is that they are collectibles which the user buys to express him/herself and make their keyboard 'unique'/'fun'. It's narcissism at odds with aesthetics. Just like many other sorts of ugly plastic junk, e.g. funko pops. Ok, this is bad, we can agree.But sound is all aesthetics. And in fact it's not easy to escape the necessity of tinkering with this, since the board and switch are not usually designed for each other; making choices about foam, plate material, mounting style etc is usually about creating harmony between switch (chosen for feel) and board. Some tinkering to get this just right aesthetically is a joy—maybe you think it is faggotry to polish your silverware, wax your wooden furniture, etc. I think that view is childish. Cap enthusiasm I think lands somewhere between. I don't think choosing beautiful caps is wrong; and I think placing an arbitrary restraint that they must be conventional is against reason also, since it assumes keyboard design is a finished science. But then we have thousands of people who fancy themselves designers because they buy limited edition $200 gmk caps that fit the cool cyberpunk idea in their minds (what if it was green and had cool symbols on it...) and the result is more like deviantart OC than a nice keyboard. This is obviously getting into faggot territory—but I think the objection has to be an aesthetic one. That the simple functional mass-produced board is aesthetically superior to this.
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>>100181608>maybe you think it is faggotry to polish your silverware, wax your wooden furniture, etc. I think that view is childish.That's quite a leap. Especially because those specific examples are care and maintenance of those items. Altering a keyboardist sound (other than to make it quieter) serves no practical purpose. As you said, it's all aesthetics.
