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Tailwind edition.

>Free beginner resources to get started with HTML, CSS and JS
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn - MDN is your friend for web dev fundamentals (go to the "See also" section for other Mozilla approved tutorials, like The Odin Project)
https://web.dev/learn/ - Guides by Google, you can also learn concepts like Accessibility, Responsive Design etc.
https://eloquentjavascript.net/Eloquent_JavaScript.pdf - A modern introduction to JavaScript
https://javascript.info/ - Quite a good JS tutorial
https://flexboxfroggy.com/ and https://cssgridgarden.com/ - Learn flex and grid in CSS

>Resources for backend languages
https://www.phptutorial.net - A PHP tutorial
https://dev.java/learn/ - A Java tutorial
https://rentry.org/htbby - Links for Python and Go

>Resources for miscellaneous areas
https://github.com/bradtraversy/design-resources-for-developers - List of design resources
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials - Usually the best guides for everything server related

>Staying up to date
https://cooperpress.com/publications/ - Several weekly newsletters for different subjects you can subscribe to

>Need help? Create an example and post the link
https://jsfiddle.net - if you need help with HTML/CSS/JS
https://3v4l.org - if you need help with PHP/HackLang
https://codesandbox.io - if you need help with React/Angular/Vue

We have our own website: https://wdg-one.github.io
Submit your project progress updates using this format in your posts, the scraper will pick it up:

:: my-project-title ::
dev:: anon
tools:: PHP, MySQL, etc.
link:: https://my.website.com
repo:: https://github.com/user/repo
progress:: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet


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Got a React codemomkey job and I hate it. I wish I did accounting
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Laravel chads stay winning
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>>100069747
PHP is mogged hard by Kotlin.
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I'm doing a project right now, it's a jamstack project and will consist of a React frontend and node backend with a postgres db. I also want to use redis. Unlike previous projects I don't mind spending like $5 a month since this site might actually get used. What do you guys recommend using for a hosting provider?

I was looking into vercel, but their non-free tier is $20 a month. I can afford but I just don't want to if I don't have to, what's a better alternative, buying a VPS and domain and hosting it myself? Any other hosting services I should look into?
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>>100069726
import { goodJob } from 'jobs';
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>>100069960
TypeError: goodJob is undefined.
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>>100069996
npm install jobs
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>>100070169
imagine the errors, deprecateds and warnings
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>>100070258
>NaN packages are looking for funding
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>>100069747
What color is your Bugatti?
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>>100070280
k e k
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we are so back bros
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>>100069747
>huracan
poor people lambo
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>>100070395
Yours is better is it?
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>>100069747
who came up with this php lambo meme?
I keep seeing it but yall are retarded
PHP caps at like 135k. It has taken a LOT of work to get over that barrier and it's only like 1/20 jobs is 180k+ and that's not enough for a lambo and a family.
I mean technically I could get one but it wouldn't be comfortable, the family would be eating hotdogs and ramen forever.
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back in the day i used to dream about working for online lingerie stores a lot of times the open positions for software dev were for women only lol
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>>100071498
What's the point of a family when you have a Lambo? They can't fit in it.
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>>100072062
all you need is to have a hobbit family
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>>100071498
php is for sigma males only
>don't care about latest trends
>don't care about code quality
>only care about the grind
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>>100069956
Hetzner has a pretty good price to performance ratio
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>>100071498
agreed, i quit and accepted a go offer
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Who else /hobbydev/ here?
I don't care about a job anymore, I'm more than happy with just maintaining a neocities site.
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>>100072415
right here, i work from home but not in webdev and have been hobbydevving for about four years now. been working on a massive project during that time which will open up some doors for me but i'll probably just stick with my current job because part of me just wants to keep devving as a hobby. i'm not interested in getting involved with nigger office politics and what not over some code. i prefer to code in peace on my own stuff
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Is React really not popular? I had never hear of React until I took a class on it this semester. There were 6 React applications at capstone presentations today, 4 of which from my class who were also the professor’s capstone class.
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>>100073210
I meant is React really that popular
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>>100073224
Check out npmtrends

Install the react devtools and just see how many sites you frequent use it without you knowing
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>>100069747
>PHP
>Laravel
no thanks, I just use Go without frameworks
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>>100073210
>Is React really not popular?
It is the nost popular JS framework.
It is no longer hip or cool though, so university students might not be big fans of it, same here on /wdg/ people shill some less popular ones.
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hey unemployed fren here. As I study webdev I am wondering how is there a future for this industry? Just make the product, fire everyone and have a few maintainers. What else needs to be developed I don’t get it. For example Netflix just needs to import movies and titles and trialers etc. what’s so innovative that it requires 1000 engineers. To reiterate I’m unemployed and never held a job pls no bully
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>>100069664
Serious question, do web devs just hate themselves? I've had to fuck with a few of these frameworks like Spring and I can't understand why anyone would put up with that shit.
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>>100069664
After 1 year I finally understand why Tailwind exists.
But my opinion hasn't changed - it's still inferior to well-written BEM SCSS. Just don't be a complete retard, it's really not fucking hard.>>100069664
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spent a day trying to learn docker and got filtered T_T. i want to kms.

its easier to deploy on a droplet and install the database and nginx and whatever else one by one
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>>100074954
>do web devs just hate themselves
yes
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>>100075458
but docker is easy, even the pajeets can do it
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>>100075090
I just hate naming things and switching contexts and BEM is a time killer for that. If I really have to name things I'd just make new components. I also don't want to always check if I'm using styles or not.

Also, using scss in a lot of the shortcut ways is niggerlicious, such as combining class names through syntax like "&-active" where you now can't even search "button-active" in your codebase. Also, mixins are niggerlicious.

There's still a number of things you'd also need to manually set up in scss project, like font sizing, spacing, colors & media queries, which now forces you to use variables all over the place if you want an actual professionally designed site, but good luck about that autocompletion.
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>>100074954
webdev ecosystem is extremely shit. i only do it because it's the easiest, bottom of hte barrel, retard friendly type of dev to earn money in. i don't even fucking touch webdev outside of work hours, at home i do some gamedev for fun(which is also shit if you want to work in it, don't do it). there's absolutely nothing fun in webdev.
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>>100069664
Shopify's editor does this too
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Do you guys write unit tests for hobby projects? I wrote a piece somewhat simple blog software for personal use, but I really can't be bothered to write any tests. Maybe I should, but somehow I'd rather chew on glass.
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>>100077640
my brother in christ i don't have any tests at work
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>>100071498
>who came up with this php lambo meme?
I'm guessing Otwell owns that Lambo or at least leases it. Who knows though.

Another framework creator who seems to have the money for an interest in cars is DHH, pic related, who made Ruby on Rails. He's driven in the Le Mans 24 hours race a few times (it's a pretty famous race).
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>>100077640
For any domain classes which contain encapsulated business logic, 100% coverage there.

In addition I might write some http endpoint testing but only if I feel like it.
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>>100077640
no. i'm the only person who works on it so i know the ins and outs
tests are good when you have multiple people working on the same project, where a change in one domain might break something else in another domain
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>>100077714
>where a change in one domain might break something else in another domain
Sounds like you need to decouple more.
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>>100052457
I think I'm done with this. Pure canvas, no CSS.

Yes it looks like ass when resized.
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>>100070383
>we are so back bros
not seeing it on my end
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>>100077640
For backend, it sometimes can help you develop complex enough features that you don't feel like manually testing for because it takes too long.

Writing tests for backend is also quite straightforward -- act as a specific kind of user, perform a request, assert what you should get back as a response.

For front end it's pretty homosexual in my opinion.
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I have been coding Minecraft plugins in PHP for 10 years, where's my lambo?
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>>100077750
I rate it a solid 8.5/10, the neon effect is not the best, but the level of aesthetics is peak performance
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>>100078275
>Minecraft plugins in PHP
my brain is full of fuck, how would that work?
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>>100078475
One gigachad decided to write an entire server hosting software for the mobile version of Minecraft in PHP. Plugin API copied from Bukkit, but it also lets you do stuff like intercepting packets much more easily.
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>>100078640
>$this->getServer()->getPluginManger()->registerEvents(new EventListener($this, $this);
wtf is this shite
whore an object and transfer it from one method to another that returns an object
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>>100057934(me)
Turns out I couldn't do it, the best I could do was have the developer environment set up and connected to the Shopify store that I created to the cloned theme in my local machine.

https://shopify.dev/docs/api/shopify-cli
https://shopify.dev/docs/themes/getting-started/create

Got stuck with customizing the elements using CSS since I don't know which files should I modify and the respective element names.

Also what the fuck are these
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>>100078693
getServer returns an instance, not a new object. It's just chaining API calls
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>>100078738
can you explain it, anon
so $this, the current object calls all those methods
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>>100075458
>Filtered by Docker
How? Sure some of the config to mount a volume can be a little confusing, or ssh into an existing container vs running the shell inside a newly created container can be confusing but it is mostly pretty straight forward. You can make complex Dockerfiles, but most of the time it is just copy everything, expose port X and run the shit.
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>>100078775
nta but its just classes with instance methods that return instances of other classes

>>100078640
how is the performance of a php server compared to java? kinda wondering how a js server running on bun would perform now
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>>100078898
>its just classes with instance methods that return instances of other classes
thanks anon
also, aren't instances same like object, it's just specific for each class
where do I read about OOP PHP? I've been writing php code like a bash script till now.
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>>100078775
The huge Server object is only constructed once, everything that needs to call some API then gets passed the same instance in the constructor. Plugin::getServer just returns the instance $this->server. It's like passing a pointer around.
https://github.com/pmmp/PocketMine-MP/blob/50e2c469a547a16a23b2dc691e70a51d34e29395/src/Server.php#L214

>>100078898
>how is the performance of a php server compared to java
Something like Spigot blows it out of the water in general. But it it's actually more performant and stable than its Java competitor for mobile (Nukkit) in my experience. Startup time is 1 second.
The guy who wrote PocketMine has written some PHP extensions to help with performance (with world compression mainly) but basically if you want performance you have to make a fork.
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>>100078459
Thanks anon. Cool challenge. I want to see what other anons can come up with.
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>>100079084
>it's like passing a pointer method
this makes more sense to me now
thank you, anon!
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>>100079170
/s/method/around
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Do people write stuff in PHP because it happens to be what they know?

Or are there some actual technical advantages of PHP?
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>>100079534
>language is well supported on every server and toaster alike
>no compilation needed
>language gets frequent updates
>good enough performance for 98% of cases
>great frameworks (symfony, laravel)
>great package manager (composer)
>great package ecosystem (esp for laravel)
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>>100079534
it's because historically there have been a lot of free tools that allow you to host PHP without knowing anything about how servers work
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>>100077761
me neither, i was just trying to offer encouragement.

working on leetcode and nextjs side project before my ass gets laid off probably in 1-3 months
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>>100079156
> I want to see what other anons can come up with.
same, I might give it a try myself too, I love vfx
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>>100079624
Fair enough, although arguably those same things could be said about the other popular interpreted languages: JS/TS, Ruby, Python. So maybe it just comes down to taste.

>>100079639
True.
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>>100080199
>So maybe it just comes down to taste.
Yep I'm inclined to agree with you.

Use whatever you're comfortable and productive with. For me, that's Laravel.
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>working full time as a react monkey
>want to learn spring boot/kotlin
>don't want to spend my free time coding

What should I do?
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>>100080601
clone yourself for extra time
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Anyone ever design a page and think, Yeah this looks good. But then you wake up the next morning and you realize that it's not that good?
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>>100077750
Repostan!
/!\/!\/!\ Official /wdg/ challenge alert /!\/!\/!\
Make the tightest neon light typography composition.
Anything goes, except a fucking .png. Bonus for:
. ultra-realism
. animated light
. actual typography, well rendered
. pure CSS solution
. pure canvas solution
. pure webgl solution (or similar web3D solution like for example webgpu)

Everyone invited!
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>>100078883
i got it working now, im just a retard
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>Github Codespaces are a cloud based alternative to VS Code
>look inside
>it's VS Code
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>>100083315
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>>100080601
React ain't that bad
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>>100084893
It's boring and I want to broaden my skillset
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How should I use SQLite with SvelteKit? Sync or async? Should I split a table that may be accessed concurrently into many smaller ones that won't, or even into separate database files?
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>>100085580
For example, I have table Posts with composite primary key: User, PostIndex. Many users may write to Posts concurrently, so should I split it into many smaller UserXXXX_Posts tables (or even separate files) where the primary key is simply PostIndex?
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>>100085698
Cache your writes
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>unemployed web dev
>cant get a job
>friends and family keep telling me i should make video games
>"everyone loves games"
>"people buy them all the time"
>"you're not working anyway"
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>>100085855
Great ide-
*sees all the layoffs in the game industry*
Huh.
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>>100081072
Does this count as neon typography?
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>>100081058
No, everything I do is amazing
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>>100086453
yeah, not bad
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>>100085834
Isn't that what WAL mode does?
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Is SvelteKit even multi threaded?
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>year of our lord 2024
>the ONLY css rule available for carets is
caret-color
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whats the point of GETs if POST does everything a GET can do + more without creating ugly fucking query parameters?
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>>100085855
time to hit the bootcamps
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>>100087774
Is multithreading relevant for normal webservers that don't do much computation? Like is the network so much slower than the CPU that there is no benefit from multiple threads for something like a static website? Is it correct to assume that only one thread can send data to the network at a time because it's like writing to a file?
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>>100077513
lol, I think you get out of it what you put in. There's good jobs out there anon!

>>100087907
Browsers love GET. everything in the URL is great for copy+paste link w/ state to your friends! also in your access logs on a webserver, you can bucket data by "intention" GETs are like "normal read-only" traffic. You can make certain assumptions based on the HTTP verb, but ofc, conventions are only good until people stop following them. I can make an API where GETs aren't idempotent & have side-effects. Maybe I can even make it so that if you send 2 rapid GETs in succession, it deletes a resource. or maybe GET resource?delete=true, that's pretty baller actually.
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Just now getting into the d3 part of my data visualization project. wish me luck
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can someone (simply. not retard-tier but not far above it either) explain why the printout for pic related should be:
1,7,3,5,2,6,4
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>>100089007
*wishing you luck*
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>>100089060
weird shit about call stack versus the task queue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aGhZQkoFbQ
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>>100089060
read about microtasks
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>>100089060
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38752620/promise-vs-settimeout
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>>100089060
Print 1.
Create task 2.
Create promise 3.
Create promise 4.
Create promise 5.
Create task 6.
Print 7.
We are done with the script.
Check promises solved.
Promise 3 solved, print 3.
Promise 4 solved, create task 4.
Promise 5 solved, print 5.
Check time tasks.
Time for 2, print 2.
Time for 6, print 7.
No other scripts, next tick.
Check promises, nothing solved.
Check time tasks.
Time for 4, print 4.
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>webdev
>more like CRUD devs
How are u mfs not yet replaced by LLM?
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>>100089457
a person who doesnt know web development isnt going to be able to make a modern web application with an llm
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having to go through one million hops to be able to use my application css in web components is the most absolutely fucking retarded thing I've ever seen.
I cant even begin to express how amazed I am about this, holy crap
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>>100089347
THANKS, exactly as ordered:
>not retard-tier but not far above it either
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>>100089060
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>>100089693
post of the year
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>>100089457
>CRUD devs
yeah, with a messy and overused MVC too
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>>100089693
To remember which wolf is which. Should make it pretty easy to memorize for the next job interview ;)
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>feel bad for myself
>feel really terrible
>remember that there are people in this thread and on this board and in this ip range and this country who have it much worse than i do
>and then i experience a moment of comfort
how is your personal project coming anon?
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I've been asked to write up a "website overview" of my company's website. Our marketing department is looking to overhaul the website in the future and wants an overview of it.

I don't really know what they're asking, I'm assuming they want to know the limitations our website has, as it is a static site generator so there are limitations to what we can do. We don't have a CMS integrated into it so we have no backend for a marketer to log in and make changes to the website's copy or change images.

Has anyone ever had to write up a website overview before or a tech stack overview for an app that your company is building and using? I'm just not sure what to include..

Speaking of site tech stacks, is there any reason to NOT use an SSG for a normal marketing website that will probably post blog posts about 2x a week and have the odd copy change here and there? SSG seems perfect for this but I do think about just going to a normal CMS like WordPress which people are used to but that can open a huge can of worms.. or maybe building the site in Next.js but this all may just be overkill for a marketing website.
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>>100090279
>marketing department
Stop making assumptions, ask for specifics.
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>decide to use SSE because it looks like it fits my use case perfectly.
>Stops working if I have multiple tabs
>See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906896

I have web browsers so much it's unreal. These same retards gave us http/2 which is worse than 1.1 at almost everything sans very niche cases.
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do you guys thing a personal site that emulates a unix desktop environment (barebones windowing system, mock terminal, faux applications that open in new "windows" for each page/image, etc) would make a good impression with recruiters or hiring people?

nothing nearly as complex as puter.com, but just kind of a toy frontend for interacting with stuff in the sites static directory as if it were in a simple desktop environment.
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>>100090636
sse is dogshit, just use ws
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forgive my stupid question: is there really no way to have the browser itself send an e-mail through a contact form without relying on an external service or mailto? (for a host like neocities which disallows using php)
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>>100092221
You could make a request to a server that echos requests as emails, but that's a terrible idea.
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>>100092221
Imagine you visited a random web page and on it was a script that got any visitor to send thousands of spam emails to an email list
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Will the job market ever recovery? Laid off after 1YOE. Unemployed for 6 months, 200+ applications sent, only 1 interview.
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never touched mobile development
first goal is a glorified todo app that stores data locally
have worked with vue (quasar framework) for web development, mostly go for backend
heard react native and flutter are the big ones, leaning torwards the later

how different is mobile development for someone that only ever worked developing erp spa?
is it best to dive straight into flutter or are they all similar enough that I could just use quasar?
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>>100089693
>job queue wolf shitting the timeout into the task queue wolf's mouth
brilliant
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>>100092468
Absolute tech market state of Murica. I'd say come to Europe but we're already full with niggers and mudslimes.

If you have even a little bit of experience, or a paper, or hell just the mindset to learn, employers are lining up and fighting over you because everyone wants to hire you.
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>>100092468
I'm surprised you found 200 suitable jobs to apply for. When I search "junior web developer" for my country's capital city, I don't think 200 junior jobs appear. A few junior jobs appear, then a bunch of mid and senior jobs appear too.
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>>100088887
>Like is the network so much slower than the CPU
Yes. Unless you're doing absolute insane shit on either the client or the server.
>no benefit from multiple threads for something like a static website? Is it correct to assume that only one thread can send data to the network at a time because it's like writing to a file?
Yeah, kinda, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thttpd which is insanely fast for static pages eventhough that thing is simple in concept and code.
But I do not think that is what >>100087774 is talking about. I guess anon means the dev process, not the actual runtime.
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>>100074954
>Spring
Not just web dev. Also a lot of people love their @@@Annotations@@@
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>>100094933
>Annotations
Real OGs prefer passing functions to functions
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>>100092468
jobs are easy to get if you're not retarded.
I'll give you a hint. These job sites are like online dating. All of them. Do not use a job site.
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I need to start a new project using React. I'm familiar with the library, but what libraries, tools, whatever should I be aware if I want to work the bare minimum?
I just need shit that literally just works.
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>>100074362
I've used Go a bit and it's cool, but it's annoying how much you have to do manually, it just takes more time

At the moment I'm using TS for back-ends but if I need more performance at some point then I'll probably use Go
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Flutter is a game engine
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>>100097287
The problem with Flutter for me is that i don't want to learn a new language
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>>100074849
companies rarely do waterfall development anymore so products are often in constant states and cycles of development to keep up with market trends. if they didn't do this their products would quickly fall out of date.

>>100074954
webdev is a solved problem and the ecosystem is extremely shit.

>>100075090
good luck maintaining BEM on a team. if it's a solo project sure, but tailwind is retard friendly enough that i don't have to reject PRs because the css is sloppy.

> Just don't be a complete retard
unfortunately retards are common, and many newgrad fullstackcels don't want to spend the time to learn BEM because they think it's a waste of time.

>>100085855
game industry is in even worse shape right now.

>>100092468
>>100093507
idk why the market is so bad in america but decent in europe rn. lots of jobs, our company is hiring juniors and new grads. only downside is pay is lower but it's still pretty comfy, and you can always hop back to america with the experience when the market recovers.
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BEM? Tailwind? SCSS?

I just write CSS, simple as
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Damn, this thread is deader than a Dodo on the weekends
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is dart (flutter) a dying meme?
I want to make a website + app with the least amount of work possible
so I think it's either flutter or capacitorjs
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Is there such a thing as a log database? I would use append-only log files, but I need them to be searchable (indexed)
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What are the best node packages for data visualization?

I need to wow some normies.
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>java + react has the best job prospects
why are we allowing cancer to take hold?
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I have a problem. I need to find the element(s) in an array of ids causing a script to break. The script breaks without errors simply by freezing itself. I can unfreeze it by feeding it an array that doesn't contain the faulty element(s).
Here's my idea: I will keep splitting the array list in half over and over till I find each of the possible faulty elements. This approach should be faster than checking each one of them considering it takes 200ms to figure out if the script is frozen or not. Here is a simplified version of what I was considering doing. Is there an approach better than dividing lists by half and recursively running the same script on the smaller chunks?

  const list = [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9];
const errors = [2, 7];
console.info("Faulty entries are", errors);

return findEl(list);

function findEl(array) {
console.info("Analyzing:", array);

const a = array.slice(0, Math.floor(array.length / 2));
const b = array.slice(Math.floor(array.length / 2));

for (const c of [a, b]) {
if (c.some(el => errors.indexOf(el) > -1)) {
if (c.length > 1) {
// Keep splitting chunks in half
findEl(c)
} else {
console.log("Found", c[0]);
}
}
}
}
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I love angular now. Wtf, I thought angular was bad but it's honestly not. I honestly feel more productive with angular.
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>>100077513
>i only do it because it's the easiest, bottom of hte barrel, retard friendly type of dev to earn money in
same here, I'm earning decent I do learn some other stuff like gamedev or low level programming at home
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>>100089693
holy fuck, my nigga just explained it in images better than some guy with a 40 min youtube video
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>>100100025
because we're not the ones hiring I guess
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>>100100025
>he thinks java and react are bad
Okay they have some downsides but they're relatively easy to use
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>>100069664
I am writing my robots.txt currently
I have my index.html in my root directory and all the rest of my html documents in an /html/ directory.
i only want my html pages indexed and nothing else.
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
Allow: /$
Allow: /html/

Is this a proper robots file for that? Anything I need to add (other than my sitemap of course)? Are the two allows redundant?
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>>100100016
>Typescript
>Svelte
>WASM
These are not memes, albeithough.
Everything else can go in the shitter.
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>>100089693
11/10
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amogus
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>>100101071
I don't know much about WASM but I haven't heard of much being done with it, except Blazor, but apparently Blazor is pretty slow
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thinking of moving on from vue after it shat the bed with nuxt 3
how is nextjs doing? got my eyes on it as I'll be getting into mobile starting with react native anyway
could also check out svelte I guess
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>>100095927
They look for 2 candidates (excluding nepotism)
>intern who has already built something that benefits from some 3rd party funding program to finance the internship (state or academic)
>senior dev willing to work for peanuts

Anyone who falls outside said categories is usually fucked and your portfolio is irrelevant.
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>>100094321
I'm still applying to positions if I know about 60%-70% of the job description, and I'm willing to relocate. Feels like businesses are leaving LA left and right. And California is getting shitter and shittier by the day

>>100095927
what sites can I use? I agree, all positions on Linkedin are filled with 100+ Indians before the job posting has been up for even an hour

>>100093507
>>100097768
How much is the difference in pay? First position was making a small six-figures already.
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>>100102681
*also college fags/HR love artificial gatekeeping.
>what... you dont have a degree of institution X. You are over 29? You dont have a social media account? No travelling? You are poor?
>lol... we will be in touch.
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>>100089693
some dogs like to eat shit actually, maybe they are TaskQueue's brothers and sisters.
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>>100093507
>to Europe
Exactly where? And what is the expected salary for a Mid Web Shitter?
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>>100102703
>How much is the difference in pay?
A lot lower, since cost of living is a lot lower.

Approx 25% of my salary goes to rent, 25% to utility and groceries, and I can save about 50%.
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>>100100079
Did you figure out that infinite loops are bad yet?
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>>100102832
What part of Europe are you in? I'm sure places like the UK is still really expensive
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>>100095939
bumpin this
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c# retard here

which css framework should i use?
i want it to be the most non-retarddy as possible
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>>100104194
imo, scss at most, and realistically, just vanilla css
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>>100104225
but with some nice default theme/fonts and the 12 column columns stuff?
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am I right in understanding expo as the mobile development equivalent to nextjs?
I don't know any react at all and am wondering if it's feasible to get started straight from using it
also how is nextjs doing? it looked like good stuff from the little I dug into
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>>100104395
just write media queries
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>>100100155
yea its kino, you can shit stuff out quick as fuck
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I want to add a search bar to my website. It will just search all my blog entries. I should use a POST request for the search bar, correct?

This is how I plan on implementing it: the [user search term] is the content of the POST request and then I return JSON that contains the blog entries that match the [user search term] and their urls, which are then presented on the "search page" and the user can click on the blog entry he is interested in.

Is this best practice? Seems like I have to use a POST request since I can't send anything with a GET request but it feels wrong somehow....
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>>100105986
troll post.
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>>100106076
Honestly not a troll post. I just want to make sure that it's best practice. My knowledge about web dev is very limited.
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>>100105986
If you need to send json from client to server for absolutely everything everywhere then yes, it's POST spam galore.
But you don't need it, just do GET me.org/blog/post?terms=first,second,third,fourth
The information is encoded in the url as query params.
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>>100106200
Nice, thanks.
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>>100106200
Btw, would you use POST if you had a lot of different categories in addition to the search term?

So you might have:
>cities (Seattle, LA, NYC, London)
>year (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)
as the categories and then the user search term can be any text.

Wouldn't it be easier to use POST for this?

Or I guess you could do something like this if you wanted to use GET?
/blog/post?terms=sushi%20restaurant&city=LA&year=2022
If you want to search for "sushi restaurant" and only want to see entries that are tagged with "LA" and "2022".

Seems a bit messy but I guess it works. What is best practice here?
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>>100106511
I just realised that YouTube uses GET like this:
/results?search_query=hello++joy

and if I add a under 4 min filter we have:
/results?search_query=hello++joy&sp=EgIYAQ%253D%253D
So using GET must be the way to go.
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>>100106511
you can do
>?cities=Seattle&cities=London
and you get an array with every city

you can also do
>?cities=Seattle,London
but then to get an array you'd have to do cities.split(",")
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>>100091582
Why?
You can implement SSE with a basic coroutine without a lot of effort. Websockets is bullshit and unnecessary if you don't even care about a duplex channel.
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>>100106658
For general reference: GET should generally be used for retrieving data, POST should generally be used for creating data.

GET is much more favorable in this case because you can share the same URL with others and have them see the same thing you're seeing while with POST you wouldn't be able to do that.
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>>100106658
yes, also if you want to make something way more complex you can write a custom syntax with a parser and plug a query builder behind that
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>>100106721
nta but please just use the first one
an api i'm interacting with uses the second one which isn't actually compliant with URLSearchParams, meaning i need to parse and map params instead of just passing the URLSearchParams object straight through
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XAMPP is now depreciated, Herd is my new best friend
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>>100070313
mine is blue why do you ask
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>>100072206
> Do care about getting shit done which is the only thing that matters
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Is there any way to get API access to 4chains archives other than 4plebs, like desuarchive or b4k? do I just have to download dumps and add posts manually to my db?
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Does anyone here understand Ruby?
I have a strange and esoteric request that chat GPT doesn't comprehend
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>>100102725
which is nepotism with extra steps
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>>100110762
5.times do |i|
really = Array.new(i).fill('really').join(', ')
really += ' ' unless really.empty?
puts "No, I #{really}don't"
end
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>>100104194
Vanilla
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>>100110930
>>100110762
??
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>>100112120
As I said, I don't understand Ruby. At least not very much.
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bros I'm writing java again using all the new bells and whistles
what's the modern way to interface with a database nowadays? I used jdbi in the past, is this still the way to go? I don't want to use JPA
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You have no idea ho bad I want to no progroom on my free time and just wander the internet
I hate being employed, not more than I hated being unemployed though
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>>100105986
>Is this best practice?
no
>since I can't send anything with a GET request
query parameters
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>>100110930
By using join you're turning the array into a string. This goes for any language I've ever used. So you're making an array just to turn it into a string. It's Ruby, so just do:
  really = "really, "*5
puts "No, I #{really}don't"

Also checking to see if it's blank is retarded since you're using a .times iteration with a hard coded number, it will never be blank.
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>>100105986
sql practice my man, download a big sql database and start querying it for fun.
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>>100113653
>checking to see if it's blank is retarded
No, it's retarded to not check for blank. The first index is 0, so the string will be blank. I guess you could check for the index being 0 but it's not much different really.
>really = "really, "*5
I want the number of "really"s to increase for each iteration, and I don't want a trailing comma, so I thought my way made sense.
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How do I declare an array of arrays like this in TS?
>[ [ number, "string" ], .. ]
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Should I make an app for my website?
Looks difficult.
I only know JS
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>>100113768
>The first index is 0, so the string will be blank.
Yeah, because you're using a new array on each iteration with the length of the current iteration, which makes no sense.
>I want the number of "really"s to increase for each iteration
And you're iterating 5 times via a static number. Nothing about your code is dynamic.

Ultimately it comes down to what in the fuck are you actually trying to accomplish? It looks like you want a dynamic amount of "really"s based on an input, but there's no input, and the rest of it is too spaghettied to tell me what you actually want to do. So what are you trying to actually DO?
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>>100114459
Make retards like you seethe
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>tfw 403
is this it? nothing to do there?
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>No inputs were found in config file 'c:/path/to/project/tsconfig.json'. Specified 'include' paths were '["**/*"]' and 'exclude' paths were '["./"]'.
TS once again gets in my way. How do I fix this? I do have a src dir in my project and there's a .ts file inside
{
"compilerOptions": {
"target": "es2020",
"module": "commonjs",
"rootDir": "./src",
"outDir": "./",
"noEmitOnError": true,
"esModuleInterop": true,
"forceConsistentCasingInFileNames": true,
"strict": true,
"skipLibCheck": true
}
}
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>>100115204
It's impossible. Have you tried reinstalling xubuntu?
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>>100115282
Ok apparently it's the outDir causing the error
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>>100116024
Or rather I had to add an empty exclude so that I could output files correctly in the project directory
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>page 8
The board is trying to claim the thread
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>building a fairly complicated backend project alongside working as a frontend dev so I can lie about being a full stack developer when I eventually job hop

Good idea or nah
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>>100116694
Good idea.
I'm working on a parallel project at work with some coworkers and I plan to use it as a playground to learn a bunch of shit then say I have 2-3 years of experience using them and find another job.
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What's a good way to make an enum in Javascript?
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>>100116835
use typescript
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>>100116835
https://jsdoc.app/tags-enum
>>100117009
Take a look at what a TS enum compiles to.
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>>100117189
Use an array with as const then.
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>backend is so much more noble
Yah bro serving data you got from mongojeetb is much harder than implementing front end logic
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>>100117654
Who are you quoting?
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>>100117654
>from mongojeetb
skill issue
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>>100117666
the hivemind
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>>100117654
>MongoloidDB
Nobody use it now.

>Yah bro serving data you got from mongojeetb is much harder than implementing front end logic
Business logic happens on the backend. If you do it on the frontend, you and your colleagues are some special kind of retards.
Frontend is supposed to only show the data provided by the backend in a nice and intuitive interface.
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>>100073210
The new hip JS framework to love is Astro and it's actually pretty gud. I just use it for static sites since dynamic sites are a meme.
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>>100089693
Are you a teacher?
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Nuki-chan is a cute code reviewer!
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How likely is it that a highly unique domain name used by a person ends up redirecting to a site that looks in the same vain and style of it but those 2 sites having no connection to each other? How can I verify that the first owner didn't simply let the domain expire and get stolen (for whatever fucking reason) and that the same person owned the domain throughout the entire time?
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>>100120291
Review the whois record
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>>100120344
Okay and on the same vein how common is the email server naming scheme of

me@domain.com

If 2 people were to both have that as their primary contact emails with linked websites that would be a link right?
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>>100120367
1. Email addresses have theoretically almost no rules
2. People can lie about their email address
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>>100120407
Not really considered about lying but moreso about coincidences.

TLDR is some site is owned by a schizoid troon doxxer who has a public github. Their github own as a domain and has a private email address not found or mentioned anywhere else on the internet from years back in one of their non updated repos. It's a really weird domain too, not popular at all. But this domain always redirects to ANOTHER site that looks nearly identical to the troons site in terms of style. That site leads to owners site who has the same scheme of mailing servers. I'm just trying to make sure this isn't something that commonly happens before I say something for sure.
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>>100120464
why don't you link those sites here so we can be sure
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>>100120488
Because the guy in question that is associated with this would have his life ruined if I'm wrong
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>>100120464
>But this domain always redirects to ANOTHER site
Redirects, or points to?
If it redirects, the server could have been hacked.
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>>100120514
Even going back and using internet archive from like over a year ago it says "redirecting to" some . site or whatever .com
Looking more closely at it makes me think that it never even had a website and was always made for redirecting for some weird reason
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>>100120188
Disgusting. Where I can I add this to my github?
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>>100113870
Array<Array<number | string>>
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>>100120705
Here's my code: https://github.com/NuclearPlayer/nuki-code-review-action

warning: github actions are retarded, e.g. you have to commit node modules and built code. You have been warned
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>>100120724
Ty, based anon.
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>their entire post-<table> "profession" is built around insanely autistic fakeprecision (you would think CSS could rival atmoic clocks with its sheer amount of data, but it's actually zero or negative added mutual information and it's literally impossible for the fraudulent architecture to center something) in roder to make predetemrined and fixed content of a single type which barely changes and is mostly rigid stunted SEOslop
>the field always desperate to keep their artificial difficulty congame going by jumping to new meme hipster faggotry stuff (during the era where FAGMAN at Facebook was all about le epic cool kid designer and zuck wanted to own the market, but now the language doesn't matter becuase he's focused on owning the Gekapselte Turing Machines and their Type-4 Panuniversal Grammar)

you had a good run lads
but all frauds get exposed at some point

>b-but that time i tried it, bad!
>T-that instantiation of a single, not-even-unskilled, informationtheory-oblivios request i made to a shit SaaS goymodel that also had been align'd taxed to fuck
>heh.. i'm safe he says
>he says unaware of the concept of meta-languages, unaware of even what glyphs mean, and unware of the concept that he's two levels of abstraction behind the meta
unaware that an entirely new type of computational device was invented

unaware that everything is effectively back to the pre-Knuthian era

you might have lasted a bit longer if you didn't all play follow the faggot leader and make south america tier abortions of websites for the last decade
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>>100074954
Younger webdevs are cucks lefties and also love drama for some strange reason. Even during my Flash days and shit posting on Flashkit, there was never real drama that made people want to quit tech.
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>>100080601
>Boss we need an App for X
>I will make a prototype when I have some downtime and show you in 2-3 weeks
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>>100118999
Why do you mislead saar
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>>100090636
ChatGPT uses SSE, so it should work well.
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>>100112634
please respond
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>>100112634
>>100123190
sqlite
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Started learning HTML today, having fun so far.
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>>100124865
html and javascript is easy, javascript is pretty hard, react is really hard and typescript is kinda hard. You will give up before you become hireable. Go stack boxes and save yourself the hassle, young nigga.
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>>100125039
html and css is easy** im drunk but yeah still give up lil nigga leave the development to me $$
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>>100125050
I'm only 21, don't have any skills, and I don't have anything else to direct my attention toward. Plus, I strongly dislike people and coding is the easiest way to get a WFH job.
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>>100125095
Well, maybe not the easiest, that would probably be a shitty customer support job, but this is the easiest way to get a WFH job that pays the big bucks.
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>>100125095
dont fall for any bull shit about getting good enough in 3-6 months and dont pay for a bootcamp they are all scams. you won't be able to do it on your own though so look for some kind mentorship program you can pay for. just not a bootcamp they will steal your money and rape your anus.
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Feel free to roast my database design. I need more sleep today than finishing this database today, because I am going to put this in my django application for this week.
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>>100124865
Take the opportunity to learn Git and also use github to as a free static site host for whatever you decide to publish
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>>100125117
What's a mentorship gonna do for me that I won't be able to figure out on my own?
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>>100125145
review your code on the countless shit small projects that you need to make in order to learn the basics, and correct the 5,000 retarded mistakes. and do the same thing with a bigger project when you are ready. which is what you need for your portfolio. Unless you are 160 IQ and can figure out everything on your own. If so congrats (that's not you bitch boy)
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>>100125138
Oh, boy
>students.student_id
Why not just id?
>students.sex
Either make it bigger or smaller, why 5?
>students.graduated_at
Could be a foreign key.
>login_tbl.password
Plaintext password? Really?

In general, I would've maid single user table without assumption that they might not be able to log in. Also don't user plurals for table names, it doesn't look nice.
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>>100125138
>students.age
you don't need that, just store the birthday as a date and calculate the age every time you retrieve it
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>>100125138
Why do you have so many 1 to 1 tables
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>>100125328
>Why not just id?
I get to confuse sometimes when design the database but I get you.
Either make it bigger or smaller, why 5?
I'll change it to 6, unless you want other genders to be included. I added that anyways because some scholarships required to be male whatever reason.
>Could be a foreign key
Challenging to execute because I need to add new table for schools and I have short time to demonstrate the project.
>Plaintext password? Really?
Django has built-in password hashing. I don't know yet how to customize the model before implementing it.
>In general, I would've maid single user table without assumption that they might not be able to log in.
that is my idea initially but I am so confuse how to do it in one table using django.
> Also don't user plurals for table names, it doesn't look nice.
I will. Thanks for the advice anon.
>>100125377
>you don't need that, just store the birthday as a date and calculate the age every time you retrieve it
Will do.
>>100125560
>Why do you have so many 1 to 1 tables
I just need them as a choices. Like valid_tbl for example, I need 3 choices like pending, accepted and rejected.
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>>100125643
sex can be a 1-bit boolean instead of a variable length string
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>>100125643
Do you expect to ever handle more than 3 choices?
If not, drop that table and key for an enum type
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>>100122991
where are all these mongodb projects?? my initial assumption is that those numbers are from people learning node.js.

also, you aren't including mysql2 here
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>>100125643
>Students
You should not presume that every student will have exactly one first and one last name. International students may have multiple given names, lack a surname, and so on.
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Front-facing strings like names should be nvarchar to support unicode
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>>100122991
Why are you showing a Postgres package which nobody uses
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>>100113870
(number | string)[][]
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>>100125138
Why are the table names so inconsistent?
>name_tbl
>Name
>name
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>>100125138
>applicants_tbl
>document1
>document2
>document3
>document4
>storing files in a database
my brother in christ, read up on basic database design like pivot tables and such. this is atrocious
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>>100113870
Type sternum = [str: string, num: number];
Type arrstrnum = sternum[];
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I hope you faggots can help me, I'm writing an Electron + Typescript app and I need help importing glMatrix into it. I can't get it to work. I tried installing it from npm and bundling it directly but it isn't working. Any tips are appreciated.
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>>100127411
Why should we help you when you insulted us in your first few words?
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>>100127411
Damn that's crazy. Good luck with it.
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>>100122911
>Younger webdevs are cucks lefties
Definitely not all of them, based on ones I've met
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>>100074954
>why anyone would put up with that shit
well, I don't
t. Javalin chad
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In Quasar can I not add the Tailwind CSS equivalent of md:some-selector? I wanna change the flex direction (or disable flex) when on mobile device
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>>100127560
Kek

>>100127446
It's faggot with love
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>>100127411
pm'd you the fix
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>>100129269
>using $obscureThingWithAStupidName can I do the ***same*** as in this other $slightlyLessObscureThingWithAStupidName? some anon here must know the answer because anon is always posting about how they use $slightlyLessObscureThingWithAStupidName IRL eventhough basically everything is react and bootstrap even in freakin 2024
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>>100129427
>this unemployed brainlet again
There was nothing "obscure" about any of that
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>>100089693
insanely good post
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>>100129412
thx based
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>>100127411
I can't tell if you're trolling or you're really unaware of package.json
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>>100129653
He would know what that is if he tried installing it with npm. The answers are so fucking retarded in these threads lmfao.
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>>100129679
>You people aren't giving me free advice! You're supposed to be my slaves!
Lmao.
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>>100129826
He's asking a simple question and you think answering is the same as being a slave. Sounds like severe mental illness and incompetence on your part.
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>>100125138
this looks niggerlicious as fuck
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>>100129946
What is this
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>>100074954
I know at least 4 guys who quit suddendly without drama and became farmers or business owner in some remote places of Earth.
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>>100129970
A brainfart of a non-native English speaker. Is it relevant to how shitty you are at coding and how you think answering is the same as being a slave?
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>>100129991
Oh, you're a pajeet. Well, happy seething to you, saar.
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>>100130017
Yeah, they call Nordic people pajeets these days. How is answering the same thing as being a slave, retard?
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>>100129946
>>100129991
>you're shit at coding if you can't give me advice for free!
LMAO. You really think that's going to convince people to help you?
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>>100130159
>>100130017
>>100129826
Samefag.
He's asking about glMatrix which is a front-end library. I'm a senior back-end dev so I don't need to know about it and my knowledge on it would be google search deep and I doubt he hasn't googled already. You're a moron who thinks him asking about it is wanting slaves to answer to him. You still haven't answered why anyone answering him is the same thing as being a slave.
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>>100130195
At first, I thought you were trolling, now I'm convinced that you're using LLM to write responses for you. Dead internet is real.
>samefag
Wrong. There's multiple people in this thread laughing at your malding ass.
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>>100130245
>I'm not gonna be a SLAVE and answer you!!!!
Not a malding boomer type answer.
>me saying that's a fucking retarded thing to say
Obviously malding.
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>>100122991
Mysql2 is half of mongodb
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>>100130195
>I'm a senior back-end dev
You're a senior toilet cleaner and a samefagging retard. Kill yourself shitskin.
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>>100130317
So you can't explain why is answering someone the same thing as being a slave and you have a mental illness? Got it.
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>>100130330
>everyone that insults me is the same person
Retarded ESLnigger
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>>100130346
You can explain the rationale any time you're capable (you're not)
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>>100130357
The rationale of you being a dumb ESL shitskin who can't code?
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>>100130367
The mentally ill rationale of you equating answering a question with being a slave or defending a person who thinks this way lol
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>>100130387
See >>100130346
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>>100130195
No, the moron is you. Fuck off.
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>>100130390
If you knew how to read you'd see the "or" you know
There's no way you even belong in this thread, there's other /g/ threads for non-programmers
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>>100130417
>says the braindead shitskin asking a basic frontend question
Lmfao, dumb nocoder ESL
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Guys, behave.
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>>100129451
>Quasar
>>enterprise-ready cross-platform VueJs framework
>a framework framework which also seems to have capabilities similar to the tailwind css preprocessor which gets used by th
>used by nobody except for hapag lloyd
yeah, that's not obscure at all, but considering that
>tailwind
is used by openai, that is even less not obscure at all.
>no, you cannot suggest using the most popular tools
>only unemployed brainlet does this
your ad hominem sounds a lot like "I am butthurt" to me
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>>100130438
Moreover if you knew how to read, I don't need to know anything about glMatrix because I work in back-end and you're unemployed
Let's say it's so "basic" that you knew how to give him a good answer. Why can't you? Would that make you a slave? LOL
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>>100130495
>I don't need to know anything about glMatrix
Why did you ask then, you dumb toilet cleaner?
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Real talk though, if you have a problem, should you fucking google it, or should you ask here?

My view is that you should fucking google it, and maybe only ask here as an absolute last resort.
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>itt
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>>100130572
>still no argument
>still wasting time in a thread where everyone can see he's retarded and defending the "not a slave" guy
kek
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>>100130646
>everyone can see he's retarded
Why are you talking about yourself?
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>>100125138
I don't think the `_tbl` suffix is needed
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>>100130619
I doubt anyone comes in here having not googled enough
For example on page 1 in google results there's "How do I include gl-matrix?", some of the answers are over a decade old. Maybe he tried all the solutions offered.
I want the original glMatrix guy to chime in though. He probably found the answer anyway without having to enslave some poor poor basement fuck.
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>>100130748
>Nooo you must give me free advice or else you're a "poor basement fuck"!
Lmao.
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New thread
>>100130829
>>100130829
>>100130829
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>>100130822
Is the advice not free elsewhere? What types of replies do you mostly see in these threads? Not questions and answers? Do they complain about being slaves?
I hope you don't lower everyone's IQ in the next thread
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>>100130882
Imagine being so thick like you are that you seethe over a single post

No, I am not helping you for free, lmao. Pathetic freak.
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>>100130748
Why do you keep on referring to yourself in third person?
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>>100131506
I'm not the one with a mental illness and victimhood like you
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>>100131660
You're the one with the biggest mental illness in this thread, and victimhood.
>OH NO WHY WON'T EVERYONE HELP ME FOR FREE I'M SUCH A FUCKING VICTIM
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>>100131692
No because for the fifth time I didn't ask any questions related to web dev and secondly I don't think I'm being enslaved if I answer someone's question. I suggest you buy rope and hang yourself because it's kinda pointless being as stupid as you for as long as you have lived.
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>>100131729
You're so thick that you can't do anything for yourself. You can't even google your problems. You're thicker than anybody else who has ever posted in this thread. Kill yourself, literally. It would improve the IQ of the world by a lot.
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>>100119442
Kinda like a wannabe teacher (so not really a teacher at all! Just a happy frontend dev who likes to doodle stuff sometimes)
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>>100131740
I'll give you a heart attack in the next thread too. It'll stop when you stop playing the same old record wishing I'm someone else kek
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>>100131784
You're genuinely pathetic.
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>>100131807
I don't have a victimhood complex about being a slave and get annoyed at questions but yeah sure
I've tutored two juniors and most of their questions were basic like one would expect, some gave me new perspectives. You will never experience any of this, because you do stupid projects in your home that no employer will look at without laughing and because you get riled up by others' questions
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>>100098038
if you understand BEM, and can implement it properly (and neatly), then Tailwind is redundant bloated garbage for ESL retards who can’t into CSS. If you can’t even make dynamic drop-down menus within menus using only CSS/SCSS, you’re a legitimate fucking clown of a web dev (even though web dev is already a circus show).
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>>100131870
>Blah blah blah I'm the thickest, dumbest moron to ever post in this thread
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>>100102681
i spent my 20s qualifying in two seperate trades (plumbing/electrical), and spent the last 2 years learning to code whilst doing my own trade jobs to keep money coming in. I’ve been filtered by HR roasties solely on the basis of being an over-qualified tradie because i DIDN’T waste my time going into debt or sport-fucking my way through Europe (aka travelling aka finding myself). Tech industry is so fucked, and you faggots have no one to blame but yourselves for allowing WOMEN to have literally any fucking say in who gets hired and who doesn’t (based on “””merit”””). How fucking infuriating it was to be spoken down the nose to by two office-autists who pay people like me thousands of $$$ to replace your fan and/or toilet, and then still question the work i’ve done as if I’ve “faked it” the entire time. What the actual fuck, women, and their faggot simp enablers, deserve to be fucking shot. For all that tech is lauded to be, the industry really is in one huge race to the bottom. Jfc, idk how you tech guys can stomach the regular humiliation rituals, and just to sit in an office all day whilst you slowly go bald under the fluorescent lights listening to Sally from HR recount her weekend stories from the pub and how she isn’t a whore for sucking a dick in the bathroom during the sports break on cougar’s night.



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