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>>18091278
The Fragrance Groups 101 chart

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>>18091278
The Fragance Flowchart for Beginners

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shit, someone beat me to a Nicolai OP
(one of the worst frag pics on her website btw)

>>18091279
>>18091280
based as always

>SOTD: Rogue Derviche (I)

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>tried multiple different designer's private lines (armani privè, gucci alchemist's garden, chanel les exclusifs)
>nothing discernibly higher quality than normal designer frags
Why do so many people fall for the price tag meme?

There seems to be a direct correlation up until about $1/ml (because there's a lot of ultra shitters if you go below that) but beyond that range there's basically no correlation.
Btw I feel the same about niche or masstige frags, but I just chose designer private lines because they literally offer their own cheaper lines with the same "level" of perfumery.

>>18091293
>Why do so many people fall for the price tag meme?
because people are retarded same with everything else

>>18091293
because marketing is everything when it comes to, well, everything, and nothing says prestige like a higher price tag.

>>18091293
Nobody wants to be known as the guy who wears a $10 fragrance, simple as.

>>18091295
>>18091303
>>18091305
Fair nuff, but at least with other luxury items there is a very obvious and immediate "show off" element. A Gucci shirt says "Gucci" in big gaudy bold letters, signalling to poorfags around you "HEY I BOUGHT A $500 SHIRT". A Mercedes S Class has a very obvious Mercedes Benz badge on the front and back, signalling to poordrivers around you "HEY I BOUGHT A 6-FIGURE CAR!!"
But with fragrances, unless you carry the bottle around with you (and even then, most people won't recognize it), nobody knows "waow, that guy's wearing a $450 fragrance!!!"

>>18091311
you don’t get it. the price tag isn’t necessarily about showing off to other people, it’s a form of self-assurance that you have the right/best thing. it’s like buying the name brand of soap/deodorant/ice cream at walmart instead of the generic equivalent that’s cheaper (which is, by the way, not an endorsement of arab clones).

>>18091293
>nothing discernibly higher quality than normal designer frags
because you're a noselet

>>18091311
>But with fragrances, unless you carry the bottle around with you (and even then, most people won't recognize it), nobody knows "waow, that guy's wearing a $450 fragrance!!!"
most people don't recognize most luxury items anyway. cars and maaaaybe big logo shit are the exception, not the rule. most people aren't going to to recognize your Cartier watch or whatever
but I agree perfumes are especially egregious. though Aventus and BR540 exist for the ones who want recognizability for maximum flex potential

>>18091311
Most people know what high end designer fragrances smell like, anon. I think anyone who is even remotely conscious of fragrances can recognize Creed or Tom Ford and if they can't then they'll be hearing plenty about it soon enough.

Any recs for a smoky rose? Something that isn't too rose forward, but is flanked by incense or heavy woods?

I smelled a lot of CDG blackpepper on the trains in tokyo.
Maybe 4 sprays of Fuel for life was a turn off when I was drunkenly hitting on girls in Hub wwww

>>18091319
you’re crazy if you think most people are “conscious of fragrance”. most people don’t even wear fragrance.

After seeing the shilling on here, I got a habit rouge decant to try again after not sampling it for a year or so and I really can't get down with it. I love old school masculines from vetiver to chanel pour monsieur to kouros, but HR just smells like a so dandified and like my grandmas divorced brother, Super dusty lemon, candied sweetness, and vanilla. Its not disgusting or anything, but I can't get down with it. It reminds me a lot of egoiste, which I like slighter more. Maybe its the rosewood? Or maybe I just smelled both on an older person in my youth
>>18091321
The Bulgari The Noir frag for sure. Smells like a rounder GGA with a slight tea/smoke and rose. The leather can become nauseating though

>>18091319
Aventus or certain Tom Fords yeah probably, since those are commonly sampled in malls. But the lines I listed, or something from MDCI, Initio, Guerlain, etc definitely not unless they're intro fragrances.
>>18091314
This is b8.

>>18091313
how will Israel getting their shit pushed in by sandniggers affect the
lone market?

>>18091333
probably not at all, arab clones aren’t exactly made by palestine or syria or whatever country is currently at ware with israel (are the rich countries like the saudis/UAE/kuwait involved? idk).

>>18091333
Free palestine: https://youtu.be/eWws1VM7iW0?si=P2sfL8Mxlqh7rVTx

>>18091342
am yisrael chai

All I own right now is Acqua Di Gio Profondo, which I like. I'm looking for a nice woodsy scent for the Spring/Summer. Tried Terre D'Hermes EDT which I liked, but was probably a bit too mature for me. Any reasonably priced reccs?

>>18091347
Eau Sauvage

>>18091347
mancere cedrat boise, but its kinda divisive so do sample it

Does Chanel have any worthwhile fragrances?

sotd ted lapiuds pour homme 18 sprays

>>18091430
Yes, Bleu de Chanel is very popular and a safe blind buy for anyone. I've also heard very good things about Sycomore. Chanel No. 5 is a classic fragrance for women.

>>18091440
fuck off, chatgpt

>>18091430
>Pour Monsieur
>Antaeus
>Egoiste

>>18091430
Egoiste, Antaeus, Pour Monsieur, Platinum Egoiste. I honestly like Bleu too for what it is
current Chanel prices suck though and I probably wouldn't buy anything from them right now.

>>18091430
not really, they just have:
no.5
cuir de russie
bois des iles
no. 22
pour monsieur
no. 19
cristalle
antaeus
egoiste

pretty small repertoire of masterpieces if you ask me.

>>18091311
First of all, the price of an expensive fragrance is cheap per the amount of fragrance you get. Since they're strong and concentrated. A bottle of axe body spray or whatever you poors wear runs out after a week so you're really spending $450/year on it anyway.
Second of all, cheap fragrances are flat and don't have the complexity and depth that you get with more expensive ingredients. The price is really paying for something. I have smelled a lot of Turkish clones and they are never the same.
And third, for me, I don't want to smell like a lot of other people. I will never wear a fragrance that most people can afford and most women can recognize. If you wear even a relatively common niche fragrance like Oud Satin Mood, that will be "smells like Joe" to 99% of your peers because they won't ever have smelled it before.

>>18091293
Why does the existence of slightly more expensive stuff makes spergs seethe and kvetch so hard ?

>>18091449
>>18091451
these posts are either very good satire or very sad.

>>18091449
>First of all, the price of an expensive fragrance is cheap per the amount of fragrance you get. Since they're strong and concentrated.
except fragrances like Oud Wood and Aventus are notoriously much weaker than their cheap arab clones
>Second of all, cheap fragrances are flat and don't have the complexity and depth that you get with more expensive ingredients
most expensive fragrances aren't using expensive ingredients in the first place. I don't think you understand how huge the mark-up on luxury perfume is
the average modern niche perfume will actually be less complex than your average 1980s cheapie simply because of how fragrance composition has changed
>And third, for me, I don't want to smell like a lot of other people
you can achieve that with less popular cheap fragrances too, much more so than by wearing popular luxury fragrances that have large numbers of clones and users

I'm new into this topic and something is really weird to me. As a teen I was buying some affordable stuff like Davidoff Echo or Benetton Verde Man to use all year long. Shit was staying distinctly on me for whole day long and was 1/2 or even 1/4 price of what I buy now. Current stuff projects badly, leaves no tail and stays longer only on clothing (noticeable only from really close)
And I mean both fragnances released in past ~4 years and those which are on the market for years now. My mother who collects frag also sees the difference, also people on fragnantica... what's the gist?
t. eurozone nibba if that matters

>>18091460
>most expensive fragrances aren't using expensive ingredients in the first place. I don't think you understand how huge the mark-up on luxury perfume is

Yeah. With all the restrictions on what can go into a fragrance, that basically leaves only synthetics and analogs of what was at one time grown, harvested, and processed. Now every ingredient is made in a lab. You can't even use real lemons anymore for fucks sake. Supposedly a Tom Ford 50ml($300 in some places) costs ~$2 to make. Now that's a markup. It really is a joke of an industry. If you think your niche costs more to produce than a nautica you are sorely mistaken. Why do you think it was so easy for the arabs to jump on board.

>>18091430
Best Chanel male fragrance is Chanel Allure

>>18091466
IFRA restrictions, everything even remotely allergenic is banned.

>>18091466
Blame Danish dermatologists and Switzerland.

>>18091440
>>18091446
>>18091447
>>18091448
>>18091470
Everything Chanel does is horribly overpriced and DIor does it better anyway.

This is the guy who called your fragrance embarrassing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS8UDykNnGY

>>18091471
Unironically a good thing

>>18091466
regulations banning ingredients play a role but a bigger one is player by the fact that companies try to squeeze out every last cent by using cheaper ingredients and less od them than in the past

>>18091478
I don’t mind Gay Dragon, even though he can go on autistic tirades sometimes, because at least he can sometimes admit that his prejudices against some fragrance were wrong and give rare positive reviews to fragrances from brands he doesn’t usually like. Good luck seeing that from Guerlain Mowgli.

https://youtu.be/5Og6Q5eEJpI?si=dRO50Iom22euirT_
opinions on black jeremy?

>>18091470
roflmao
>>18091477
LOL
>>18091484
Thank you, Florida schizo.

>>18091490
I thought that hot nigga with the ugly white wife was the black jeremy. I forget the name

>>18091470
love allure

>>18091497
Nothing better than some blonde chubby nordics, totally would
https://youtu.be/q5rC_YM7BhM?si=AxKQDi4bPqJ3H-3c

>>18091471
>>18091476
so just like I expected. normally I wouldn't even mind that because chemists could find a way to produce safe and quality ingredients but I know fucking dermojews will try to abuse it for their profit with stupid ass safewashing
just like >>18091481 said. average joe will work around it with buying rossmann or turkish fragnance (much worse but intense) but retards will fuel this sick situation by buying overpriced fragslop

>>18091514
same anon here, forgot to ask: is there any way to deal with it? I can think of buying fragnances exclusively from years pre 2020 but that's limiting of course. how about orderding from murican shops?

>>18091490
>black Jeremy
kek. I just assumed he was going to be a black guy fragbro, but he's literally a pallet swap like the ninjas in Mortal Kombat. He needs to complete the picture by getting himself an upside-down cross and describing himself as "the number 1 fragrance icon that follows the teachings of Satan"

>>18091478
I'll allow it. He's an honest fragrance reviewer

>>18091501
Those are his sisters? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Looking for more cowboy frag suggestions.

Thank you to those who recommended Fahrenheit and Lonestar Memories in the last thread. I find the former too heavy for my liking; never heard of the latter but it sounds interesting so I’m looking for a sample.

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>>18091534
>Wear cow
>have penis
Cow boy fragrance

>>18091538
fun fact: this is actually a good frag

>>18091540
Never smelled it. Is it milky?

>>18091543
There's milk there, but it's a lot of green notes and white florals as well. Very snice

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Prove you're not a poorfag

>>18091551
needing to prove that you’re rich with LV products is a time honored poorfag tradition.

What’s that one smell that’s in hallways, towels, etc. (you know the one)? I want a cologne that smells like that

>>18091534
I've never sampled anything from Tru Western, but that's their whole gimmick

>>18091493
Dior is 100% better than Chanel, especially considering their prices and availability. Best designer along with Guerlain (if Guerlain counts as a designer brand).

>>18091566
LMFAO, dior has taken a big fat shit on basically their entire legacy pre-80s. diorama, miss dior, dioressence are all unrecognizable in their current iterations, while diorella, eau sauvage and diorissimo are shadows of their former selves, to say nothing of eau fraiche and dior-dior no longer existing. only their post-roudnitska catalog is maintained with any sort of decency, which is like an orchestra only playing music after beethoven competently (ie. absurd and sacrilegious). dior can go to hell for the mess they’ve made out of their back catalog, and for being the reason patou no longer exists.

Let's be honest /b/, Maison Francis Kurkdjian mogs every other perfumer nowadays. I can't wait for his next creation for Dior which presumably will be even stronger than Dior Sauvage Elixir

>>18091575
very funny

Honestly from the big designer brands, Prada makes the best perfumes

>>18091559
>Comes back with the most common poorfag trope
Keep flipping those burgers

>>18091571
Anon, Dior Sauvage is the most popular current Men's fragrance. It is fine if you don't like it, but don't pretend that literally millions and millions of people think it is the best fragrance. Don't fall into the hipster trap where you reflexively hate things because they are popular. A hobby like this can encourage that sort of mindset.

>>18091581
No one likes sauvage. No one buys sauvage. No one has ever worn sauvage

>>18091571
I currently own Fahrenheit, DHO, DHC, and Eau Sauvage and they're all fine. Chanel prices make me want to avoid all their fragrances.

>>18091580
no one is impressed with your basic bitch ass LV monogram tote rofl, come back to me when you get allocated a birkin bitchboy.
>>18091581
has no relevance to my post whatsoever.

Fragrances for the man who has a hardass punk exterior but is actually just a normal if not pussyish guy beneath the facade?

>>18091586
>fahrenheit
at this point, even the reformulation queens don’t know if this one is supposed to be any good or bad anymore. basenotes would have you believe that it gets annual reformulations that make it more floral or more leathery or more gasoline depending on how solid demachy’s shit was that morning.
>DHO, DHC
no one cares about these ones.
>eau sauvage
reduced from the most influential eau de cologne reorchestration since 4711 to a glorified lemongrass air freshener. absolutely miserable.
>chanel prices
no one cares if you can afford them dude, the difference with chanel is that a bottle of no.5 from today still smells more or less the same as how it did 100 years ago. miss dior isnt even the same perfume anymore.

Best Chanel: Chanel Allure Homme
Best Dior: Dior Homme Intense
Best Prada: Prada L'homme Intense
Best YSL: La Nuit De L'Homme
Best Versace: Dylan Blue

>>18091593
if i wanted to read this sort of shit i’d just go on tiktok and search “best men’s cologne”.

Alright /fa/, shill me the strongest male colognes that actually smell good.

Hard mode: No Dior Sauvage Elixir

>>18091579
rank their top 5 pls

>>18091735
1. Prada L'Homme Intense
2. Prada L'homme
3. Prada Carbon
4. Prada Ocean EDP
5. Prada Black

I haven't tried the older ones

>>18091737
literal pure shit.

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I exchanged it for YSL Y EDP and its slowly becoming my favorite perfume. Political implications?

Sold my bottle of CDNIM limited edition, any other Aventus alternatives that are worth it?

>>18091734
Carlisle
Viking
Habdan
Oajan
Layton
Carlisle again

>>18091757
Joop Homme beats these, easily

>>18091758
Joop Homme is the most based fragrance ever

>>18091758
Not Carlisle. I sprayed it no my neck at the start of the pandemic and I can still smell it.

>>18091758
>>18091759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4dNQgBeATQ

>>18091760
Anything from the designer realm that is strong as fuck?

>>18091757
>>18091758
>>18091760
>>18091765
all bow before amarige
>b-but it’s a femini-
lol what is it, scared of the most powerful perfume of all time? sissy.

>>18091765
Mancera isn't technically designer, but now that Dior is putting out Sauvage flankers that cost nearly $200 for 50ml, they're cheaper than designers on fragrancenet/fragrancex, Red Tobacco is the strongest fragrance on the market. By a lot. It's really bad, but you asked for strong, not good.

>>18091771
I picked up my bottle of red tobacco by the neck once and didn't realize the atomizer came lose and I spilled some on a basket of laundry I was about to wash, and I couldn't get the scent out. I bet if I go smell some of those socks, they still smell like Red Tobacco. It's a preposterous fragrance. It should be illegal.

>>18091765
eros
erosflame
ultramale

>>18091765
Invictus, Eros, 1 Million, Spice Bomb, Dunhill Desire, pretty much all the Le Males

>>18091771
>>18091774
I’ve heard that Kerosene’s Followed might be even worse. It’s design is almost a meme, an overdose of sotolon, an aromachemical that smells like maple syrup. In fact, it is used in artificial maple syrup.

Apparently it’s not a bad smelling fragrance, quite the opposite, but it’s a scent you have a hard time getting rid of even if you wanted.

>>18091792
Ehh, nevermind, I now saw the original question and it was about designer frags. This one certainly isn’t one, so on that front Red Tobacco still wins.

So I just got samples of
Guerlain Heritage EDT
Guerlain Vetiver EDT
Guerlain Habit Rouge EDT and
Tom Ford Ombre Leather Parfum

I'm currently trying the vetiver and the Heritage, one on the back of each of my hands. They smell somewhat similar to me, are they supposed to?

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yes i am simple man
please tell me which frag to use to attract girls and have sex 100%

>>18091805
ultra male

>>18091807
for spring and summer

>>18091809
h24 edp or edt

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why is this suddenly shilled everywhere

>>18091803
no, they don’t smell similar at all. you have either mixed the 2 up or cannot tell them apart because the scents are blending together.
>>18091807
he said attract girls, not guys.

>>18091805
Fragrances will not get you bitches, they are less than 1% of the equation. It's not the cherry on top to your overall attractiveness, it's the top half of the stem of the cherry on top. Don't buy in to the Axe ad campaign of the 2000s.

>>18091850
chill, you are taking this too seriously

>>18091866
>ask question
>get real answer
>wtf bro you're taking it too seriously
Why are zoombrains like this

Yo bros, my birthday is coming up and I'm getting a nice chunky gift card to buy some fragrances from my pops.

I've been thinking about:
Y Le Parfum Yves Saint Laurent
Bleu de Chanel Chanel

I'm 28, young, fit. Want something for going out. Opinions ?

>>18091872
Habit Rouge?

>>18091805
Just wear what you like. Eau Sauvage and Guerlain Vetiver are the GOAT S/S fragrances.

>>18091517
idk about american market but got older Loewe 7 from facebook group and there is a difference

>>18091873
Ooh, never heard of that one, I'm a total noob when it comes to fragrances. If they have it will check it out.
Looking for something fresh/sexy.

>>18091874
got it

>>18091874
isnt sauvage elixir superior?

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Ambroxan smells good.

>>18091897
We need a Habit Rouge flanker with powdery citrus and ambroxan.

>>18091901
Isn't that what HR L'Instinct was supposed to be? I don't know anything about that one other than it's a fresher aquatic take on the DNA

>>18091897
ambroxan absolute smells like rubbing alcohol, so no, not really.

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Why not just make your own fragrances? You can buy all the oils relatively easily.

>>18091897
yeah, it improves pretty much every aspect about any scent

>>18091910
>why not just shoot your own movies?
>why not just compose and record your own music?
>why not just paint your own paintings?
simply really foolish.

>>18091914
Why not do all those things? You can still enjoy other people's work, but it sounds like a fun hobby.

>>18091803
Heritage got that chocolaty patchouli and creamy sandalwood, vetiver is more earthy, dry and tobaccoish

>>18091917
simple answer: you suck at all 4, and the amount of time and effort it would take to become good at any of them is not just a hobby, it’s a full time career that starts with years of schooling and then grinding for several more years as a journeyman before achieving some level of mastery.

>>18091920
yeah the difference became more apparent to me the longer after spray. I think they both just had Citrusy top notes so those were strong in the beginning. I like both, but the longer I wear them I like the creaminess of heritage more than vetiver.

>>18091914
Exactly, life is about creating, not consuming.

>>18091944
the last thing we need is more subpar creations of anything by amateurs, we already have plenty of those floating around.

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Has anyone here tried Acqua di Parma Colonia C.L.U.B? Notes seem to be exactly what I'm looking for, something citrusy and spicy.

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Viking smells great

>>18091952
incorrect

>>18091952
It does, let tastecels seethe

>>18091955
extremely moronic

>>18091964
foul opinion

>>18091965
totally retarded

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trying to slopmaxx, post most popular masstige that lasts forever, thank you
bonus points for no vanilla/tonka bean

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>>18091970
I find I can't get this stuff off of me even after bathing.

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>>18091970
Amouage Interlude

So I find that I at least like, every fragrance I smell. I like some more than others but I have not encountered a fragrance that I would rank at neutral or below.

>>18092023
You need Montale in your life.

>>18092023
Same. The only ones I haven't liked have been petrifyingly sweet

is he /ourguy/? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQfkKvE6XgI

>>18092049
No. /ourguy/ is RXL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZM0CmdVpbE&t=4s

>>18092033
Yeah the sweetest one I have is Le Beau, which I do really like, but is probably near the limit for what I would like in sweetness.

>>18092052
Based for giving /ourgirl/ curly a fair hearing.

>>18092023
I can find something redeeming about every fragrance for the most part. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that I was like, HOLY SHIT, WHY DO THEY MAKE SOMETHING SO HIDEOUS was one of the older PDM releases. I don't remember what it was called, but I was at the PDM boutique in NYC and the guy was taking me through all the fragrances and when he got to this one he was like "yeah, this one is terrible and I have never sold a bottle in the three years I've worked here". It was one of the ones in the clear bottle, but it straight up smelled like nail polish remover. I have no clue what the fuck they were going for, but they missed the mark. By a lot.

Can someone compare the benefits and drawbacks of Solid Frangrances vs Liquid

>>18092181
The primary benefit of liquid fragrance is that you can spray it on yourself without anyone seeing it. The primary benefit of solid fragrance doesn't exist and that's why no one knows what that even is.

>>18092201
No, I refuse to believe that solid fragrances are that niche. Solid Colognes/Perfumes just smell better to me and are less powerful, I don't understand why they haven't gained more traction.

So just trying Habit Rouge EDT and Tom Ford Ombre Leather Parfum. Habit Rouge's floral notes are fairly prominent. It reminds of Grey Flannel with several extra notes added. Tom Ford Ombre Leather iParfum is pretty nice. It had a nice soft and warm leather scent but then with a lot of extra complexity in the beginning. However I will say even after just 15 minutes after spray a lot of the complexity is fading. If it is just left with the leather note, which is nice, after an hour or so I'm not sure it is worth the hefty price tag.

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Never really cared about fragrances but I have some airline points to spend. Problem is their offerings are very limited so there were only two high profile ones I can cop for nothing - pic related.
Do these have good enough staying power and decent reception?

>>18092220
>solid
>less powerful than perfume
Soap. It sounds like you are describing soap.

When I say I want to smell like vanilla I mean I want to smell like vanilla ice cream tastes, not like spicy nonsense, understand?

>>18092226
Also something about Habit Rouge reminds me a little of a Mexican restaurant. Like the background scent of maize either corn tortillas or that sweet corn thing.

>>18092226
>However I will say even after just 15 minutes after spray a lot of the complexity is fading. If it is just left with the leather note, which is nice, after an hour or so I'm not sure it is worth the hefty price tag.
I feel this way about a lot of Tom Fords. Habit Rouge is nice for the price, if a bit dated. Although it seems to be harder and harder to find for under a hundred dollars these days. I would go with HR Rouge Prive over that one. It's a bit more modern but retains the HR DNA much more than HR L'Instinct, which may as well be a new release. Honestly, if you're new to fragrance and just looking for something that smells nice and is easy to wear, I would look into the L'Homme Ideal line sooner than the more legacy Guerlain fragrances. Not knocking them, but they're a bit hard to pull off in my opinion. Ideal is much less complex, but it's a DNA that most people will enjoy. And they are about 50/50 warm weather, cool weather, so there will be something in the line that's suitable for any occasion.

>>18092250
I'm sure there is a Demeter fragrance for that. I've also heard Vanilla Vibes from Juliette Has a Gun is vaguely ice-creamy, but I don't know. That's for girls, anon. Girls. I'm a man.

>>18091534
Both Fahrenheit and Lonestar Memories are good suggestions, unfortunately if you think Fahrenheit is too heavy Lonestar is probably gonna come off the same. To me it’s even heavier than Fahrenheit, but I don’t consider either of the two “heavy”.

Another you could look into is Iron Duke, fantastic leather fragrance that fits the cowboy description pretty well. Similar in the vein of Lonestar.

>>18092254
Well of the samples I got, I also got Vetiver EDT and Heritage. Of all 4 I think I like the Heritage the most. It also seems the most versatile too me. I think what I like about it is the creaminess underneath it all.

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TF Tobacco Oud Intense decants are really expensive, are any clones of it like Dua Tobac Aoud Attar good?

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>>18092254
>I'm sure there is a Demeter fragrance for that
There sure is!

>>18092250
In addition to the aforementioned Demeter, A Whiff of Waffle Cone by Imaginary Authors, Changing Constance by Phenalgin's, and Incubi by Andromeda's Curse fit the bill. Anon mentioned Vanilla Vibes, but I think that one kind of smells like suntan lotion. It's very salty. Also, so you're not surprised, most fragrances that smell like this are women's fragrances. Parfums de Marly is probably the house that's most associated with masculine vanilla fragrances, I'm not familiar with anything from that house that smells like vanilla ice cream. Pegasus might work, but there's a lot going on in that one other than the vanilla.

Vanilla by itself is not traditionally thought of as an overly masculine note, and so when used in men's fragrances it's pretty much always blended with something that makes it a bit darker or spicier. Don't get me wrong, a lot of aggressively masculine fragrances feature vanilla quite prominently, Aventus and Sauvage EDP both have heavy doses of vanilla and those are both very masculine, but no one would ever describe them as smelling like ice cream.

PDM Althair might work. I haven't smelled that one yet, but it sounds very, very sweet.

>>18091951
I was gonna say yes until I realized there's a Colonia Club and a Colonia C.L.U.B
Fuck these retards and their retarded naming

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>>18092232
Google exists, brainlet anon

>>18092310
wth i love aventus now?

>>18092310
is that an FTM?

>>18092329
No, it's an ADP and a Creed

Has anyone smelled the new Guerlain Vetiver Parfum compared to the EDT?

>>18092310
If you don't look like this, don't talk to me

Aight boys, my Tauer “Superstar Discovery Set” just arrived along with my bottle of ACDD.

Already sampled and enjoyed the “Best II” and “Marvels II” discovery sets, what am I in for with Golestan, Le Maroc pour elle, and PHI?

>>18092370
golestan was very unappealing to me. supremely powerful white floral that didn’t seem particularly pleasant.

any alternatives to body shop white musk for men?

SOTD for three days in a row: Chanel Allure Homme

>>18092412
I think I will have to buy another bottle of this

>>18091977
i'd consider myself lucky

>>18092358
yes, it's a pointless release imo
just stick to the EDT

word from /ourguy/ Luca Turin:
>Vetiver Parfum is a sub-par rehash and adds nothing

>>18091872
>28
>young

>>18092370
Sundowner and Golestan are both based
need to revisit the others

>>18092442
>yes, it's a pointless release imo
Incorrect. The point is to exploit stupid people by tricking them into buying a new bottle of a perfume they already own. Making lots of money with minimal effort is a ferociously pointed endeavor and extremely based.

I want some compliments today so scent of the day is CDNIM LE

>>18092463
You'll get comments not compliments

>>18092474
It's my most complimented fragrance brother. Drydown is heavenly

I want a copycat of the Lush Cardamom and Coffee scent, please help me find one anons.

>SOTD Acqua di Parma Colonia Essenza
Sinus clearing neroli.

>>18092442
>Turin
Nobody cares, it's not 2009 anymore.

>>18092310
very based

>>18092515
>Nobody cares
that's just like, your opinion, man

>>18092358
I did a couple of days ago. The DNA is the same, the perfume is darker and sweeter (not actually sweet, though) compared to the brighter EDT. Really depends on your preferences. I don't love either but would go for the perfume if I had to choose.

>>18091517
stop giving a fuck and spray more

SOTD: Nishane hacivat

Can anyone rec me something new for spring/summer here in the uk. Frags I have liked:
TF Neroli portofino
Dior sauvage elixir
Chanel bleu
Armani absolutely for you
TF beau du jour
Creed aventus
Creed himalaya

Yes I know I’m basic

>>18092442
>word from /ourguy/ Luca Turin:
>Luca Turin
Luca Turin
https://youtu.be/QT13kk8HDDo?si=E8SCpDzntqoLZzEW

>>18092573
Platinum Egoiste
Terre d'Hermes
Grey Vetiver
ADP Colonia

>>18092573
Aromatics Elixir
Yatagan
Kouros
Quorum
Avestan

These are your baseline spring summer scents.

>>18092580
based list but wasted on replying to a basic bitch pussy noselet

>>18092584
He might learn, there is still time.

i have dior homme sport and le labo bergamote for summer scents
is versace eau fraiche redundant in my case?

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I'm not very experienced with fragrances so I decided to order a set of samples of more popular scents. For now I'm looking for an everyday scent for summer, something not overtly powerful.
I've tested pour homme versace and I liked it (especially the subtle rosy note) but I'm looking for something with better longevity maybe? I've seen someone recommending pic rel, but I see people mention it's too much and it smells like air freshener. Any advice?

>>18092442
funny, because that senile retard complained about the current vetiver edt lacking the liquorice note which he liked about the vintage edt and the new perfume features exactly that, a prominent liquorice note. he's clearly losing his mind.

also, turintard once more confirmed as someone who doesn't actually sample the frags he namedrops here, he just parrots his e-idol.
a typical forum expert; reads all the reviews, watches all the youtube videos but never goes out and experiences the actual thing.

>>18092623
Based and Elder-abuse-pilled. As an aside, I worry about about our resident, young fragrance hipster. In many ways he reminds me of the character Will Hunting, from the movie Good Will Hunting. I would recommend he watch it but I'm worried that flaws and inherent tragicness of Will's character would be lost on him and instead his take away would be that he is some kind of genius. The way he comes into each thread and shits on everything based on something he's read or heard is right in line with the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZib8gXSsnE

>>18092632
Post your collection immediately

So I got to try Tom Ford's Ombre Leather Parfum again this morning. It smells so good in the beginning. It is rich and complex, and has notes that just reach the top without going over. It is one of the best things I've smelled. But then like 15 minutes later so much of that goes away. It still has a very a nice, soft leathery smell afterwards but it loses so much so quickly I feel like it isn't worth the price tag. Plus the foreknowledge of knowing the wonderfulness of the scent is going to go away so quickly makes the fragrance feel tragic.

However, my other samples of Guerlain Vetiver EDT and Heritage I really like. I will probably wind up ordering the Heritage. I do like that one more but I feel the Vetiver is a better spring and summer fragrance. Plus I think the Vetiver would better fill a hole in my collection. But I want to try the new Vetiver Parfum before I decided between the EDT and the Parfum.

>>18092635
We warned you: Tom Ford's perfume is Fundamentally Incomplete

>>18092633
Find a girlfriend and spend an evening in bed with her while she rests her head on your chest and gently plays with your chest hair then breathes in deeply and murmurs, "mmm... you smell good."

>>18092639
No thank you I find sex an insane waste of my genius level intellect, as opposed to discussing perfume.

>>18092575
>>18092623
>>18092632
>>18092639
the florida schizo is losing his mind again at the mention of his 2 least favorite words

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>le florida schizo narrative
meds

>>18092707
thank you, florida schizo in incognito mode

Do you guys remember when that guy was trying to convince everyone iris was an integral note in chypres?

>>18092719
his behavior was very florida schizo like desu, would not be surprised if it was the same guy

>>18092719
yes, those were the times
>t. oldfag

>>18092632
>As an aside, I worry about about our resident, young fragrance hipster.
That sounds a lot nicer than Guerlain Mowgli.

>>18092781
so true, florida schizo

whats a good frag for a level 5 Kenku druid?

>>18092800
encre noire

sampled some frags at the mall yesterday
>kiehl's original musk
very nice clean musk that turns sweeter and animalic, will be picking up a bottle the next time I'm there

>La Fille Tour De Fer Serge Lutens
nice violet with some rose sweetnes but way too overpriced seeing that grey flannel exists

>Un Bois Vanille Serge Lutens
smells like actual vanilla instead of vanilla slop drowned in sugar, opens a bit smoky but then turns into one of the best vanillas I've smelled
try if you can

>Chergui Serge Lutens
fantastic stuff, a bit smoky a bit green a bunch of amber with a caramelly and honey sweetness very well executed hay note
definitely try it if you haven't

>SOTD: Masculin Pluriel
Getting a raspberry note in this one that I haven’t seen anyone else mention

>>18092849
amazing, someone who actually remembers serge lutens in the year 2024.

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givin these a shot.

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>>18092849
Why Kiehl and not Jovan Musk?

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>>18091872
HAVE SOME GOD DAMNED SELF RESPECT BOY

>>18092857
Mousse Illuminee is pretty great, curious to hear how you like it.

>>18091872
Which BDC? There are three. Assuming this is a choice between Y Parfum and any of the three, my vote is for BDC Parfum. But given that those fragrances both cost nearly $200, there are infinitely better choices at that price range. What kind of gift card is this? Is it the kind that can be spent anywhere or is it for a specific store?

>>18092863
I already have sex appeal and the kiehl might get discontinued

>>18091874
>Eau Sauvage and Guerlain Vetiver are the GOAT S/S fragrances.
Weird. I've never heard of either of those described as straight shota fragrances. In fact, it makes little sense. Those are both old man fragrances. If the lady is into little boys you'd think she would want him to smell like anything other than an old guy. Also, you have to be 18 to post here, what makes you think anon is 12?

>>18092872
I would've just gone with the other two, I've been looking for a summer cologne. But I saw someone in one of the previous threads talking about rogue, and they have them on the sample website. Figured I'd give it a try.

>>18092880
porn addict moment

whats a normal scent to wear to a family gathering

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>Oh, you have a smoky batch? That's cute, but it's not the hyper-rare Hulk Batch from 2018

>>18092025
Kek

>>18092894
something lighter and inoffensive

>>18092229
Lol you joking? I don’t think you could’ve found two frags with less longevity if you tried

>>18092894
Muscs Koublai Khan

>>18092894
anything montale really

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>>18092880
Kek based

Is there anything similr to Creed VIW but with better performance? Fucking love how it smells but I'm lucky if I get 2 hours out of it.

>>18092935
malibu party in the bay

>>18092935
le beau

>>18092935
>>18092943
>>18092948
horrifying stuff

Takes on frags with a cannabis note? Been thinking about snatching one just to venture on the niche side.

Can anyone compare Eau Sauvage and AdP Colonia? Redundant if you have one of them?

hmm... anyone here ever order directly from Guerlain? It says 3 free samples with order, but the samples seem restricted to just a few select ones. Anyone know if there is a way to get different samples?

>>18093004
Never have, but it’s doubtful. You have to keep in mind, they’re giving you samples because they want you to try something and eventually purchase it.
There are specific things they want you to purchase, and they don’t care what you actually want to try.

Where do you guys fall on clones? It seems like there are three camps:

>1. Never purchasing a clone on pure principle
>2. Most clones are garbage but there are a few scenarios where it makes sense
>3. Clones are awesome and round out a budget collection

I used to be more of a 1 man but I am leaning towards 2 recently

Just bought the full Zoologist sample set. Should keep me busy for a while, anyone here fond of anything in particular by them?
Looking forward to trying Bee, Squid, Camel, and of course T-Rex.

>>18093027
I'm more of a 2. Clones have their place, but I think a lot of noses lie to themselves about how close they are to the original.

I'd rather a clone that also does its own thing rather than trying to purely dupe.

>>18093027
>4. buy inspired clones for 4$ each

>>18093027
2

>>18093027
2. especially if the original has shit performance but a high price tag

>>18093034
I was interested in how Cow is. I'm always looking for good milky scents

>>18093034
I want to try Penguin, I hear that one is really nice with the icy accord. What I have tried: fun concepts but nothing too special.

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Well I ordered a bottle of Heritage from Guerlain. I really liked the sample I tested. I was mildly disappointed that I couldn't choose 3 samples of any fragrance I wished. I wanted to try the Vetiver Parfum, Jicky, and Mitsouko. I wound up getting samples of L'Homme Ideal Parfum, Habit Rouge Parfum, and Floralbloom Forte EDP. I'm somewhat interested in the first two, and the third I just picked up for my niece to see if she likes it. I chose the least expensive feminine fragrance they had listed in case my niece really likes it she will only be begging her parents to spend a bit over $100 rather than $300 or $400.

>>18093027
Absolutely 2. I think that shunning clones completely is dumb, because some of them genuinely have a great price/performance ratio, but let’s be honest, most of them go into the ”tries to capture the vibe but fumbles hard on execution” category. And I personally keep paying enough attention to details that I don’t wanna deal with fragrances that are like
>yeah man the drydown is like 80% same if you survive the first hour of synthetic chemical smell

I’d generally rather have your average unambitious but OK designer fragrance than anything that has an actively abrasive notes on any part of its existence. Doesn’t matter if it almost captures the idea of some expensive fragrance with its sillage, if there is any unpleasantness I have to survive, it’s off my list.

>>18093057
why from the source?

>>18093027
2. While few, there are some fantastic clones that I honestly prefer over the original. I can't bring myself to spend $200+ on certain frags that lasts half as long as a $40 clone when the smell is barely distinguishable.

>>18093055
Probably a pretty safe (read: correct) take. It’s probably gonna be ELDO 2: Animal Edition.

A couple good ones, several meh ‘not bad’s, and a few real flops that somehow stick around.

>>18093027
>2. Most clones are garbage but there are a few scenarios where it makes sense
this one

>>18092997
more or less unrelated aside from both being eau de cologne variations.

>>18093027
1

>>18093057
Yeah, see, Jicky and Mitsouko are waaaay too old for them to be giving out samples. They already know they’re established hit perfumes, they don’t need to “sell” the fragrance for them to catch on (aka give out samples).

Vetiver not being on there is a bit surprising since it’s a 2024 release, but all 3 of the ones you did get are new releases.

>>18092997
not redundant IMO. Colonia is closer to the usual 4711 neroli cologne profile, just a bit more hefty than most. Eau Sauvage is more unique

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>>18092897
Impressive. For me it's Gutteridge edp, more creamy musk plus vanilla.

no matter how much time I waste in this I will NEVER become a batch autist

>>18093103
feet

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Well /fa/? Which house are you buying?

>>18093124
All of them. They're limited edition. Pop them in a dresser, wait a couple years and sell them for $1,000 a pop to nerds. It's the whole reason they exist in the first place.

>>18093124
Gryffindor is the only one that smells right. It's a bold ambery scent profile. Hufflepuff is a light tropical thing, Slytherin is warm and cozy, and Ravenclaw sounds like a generic blue scent. It's like the perfumer just looked at the colors and went with the first thing that came to mind. They didn't even bother to take two minutes to read the wikipedia.

Hufflepuff should be a sweet, cozy gourmand. Slytherin should be dark, damp and earthy like Encre Noire. Ravenclaw should be something sexless and academic along the lines of Green Irish Tweed. Something a tenured college professor might wear. Gryffindor is fine I guess.

>>18093124
Funnily enough I’ve never seen anyone discuss that company on positive sense in fragrance community, nobody ever recommends anything from them or talks about the practical matters about notes or anything, it’s always just strongly negative condemnation of the entire company.

And from what I’ve seen, they probably deserve it with their pricing, riding on brand cooperations, kitschy bottles, limited edition dumbassery etc., but still - what keeps them afloat if you never see anyone in fragrance community discussing them? Do they live solely on non-enthusiast sales and/or popular culture brand X fanboys/girls gobbling up fragrances solely because the brand association?

>>18093124
so gryffindor is for courageous heroic leader types, ravenclaw is for nerds, hufflepuff is for pussies, and slytherin is for assholes?

>>18093133
I've been moderately into fragrances for like a decade, and the only thing I really know about this brand is that they have bottles that look like cupcakes and Redolessence has a bunch of them on his shelf. Never read or watched a single review until twenty minutes ago when I found out they made expensive Harry Potter fragrances for some reason.

>>18093135
That is correct

>>18093061
I wasn't really worried about authenticity but I figured if I get it straight from Guerlain then there might be less risk for quality control, as in a discounter may have the bottle but there is a chance it has sit in a 120 degree shipping container for a month or two. Also I wanted to sample more Guerlain fragrances. I didn't get the ones I wanted but I was still ok to try out 2 of them and the 3rd I can give as a small gift to my niece.

>>18093138
damn imagine the sorting wizard hat doesn’t put you in the main character house… that sucks

>>18093132
I think the idea is that they want them to be different enough that you can buy all four without any major redundancies. Which is stupid. No one who cares about fragrances enough to avoid redundancy is going to buy one, let alone all, of these.

>>18093081
>Yeah, see, Jicky and Mitsouko are waaaay too old for them to be giving out samples.
are they worth blind buys? Also I see they are listed under women's fragrances but I assume that is because when they were released fragrances were less unisex friendly.

>>18093124
They also made a Batman scent at one point.

>>18093144
you are definitely better off sampling them

>>18093145
Yeah, it's a $400 women's fragrance. I don't understand who is running this company

https://houseofsillage.com/products/batman-core-womens-fragrance-limited-edition

>>18093146
alright, perhaps I will put together a list for next month. I don't really want to rush buy a bunch of fragrances anyway, And I did want to try out the Vetiver Parfum and decide between that and the EDT.

>>18093147
They made a men's fragrance, too. But I guess they don't sell it anymore. The boy bottles are square. The cupcake bottles are all women's if I'm not mistaken.

>>18093147
women always buy gaudy shit like that it is why lady gaga and ariana grande can sell out at sephora in an hour… batman is for the “goth chicks” who are usually just your average tasteless hoe

not saying men will never buy a celeb frag but it is way less common

>>18093151
>not saying men will never buy a celeb frag but it is way less common
I would never buy a celebrity fragrance, even if I liked the celebrity. Even just having a famous face of a fragrance is enough to give me pause. Nick Jonas by John Varvatos could be the best fragrance of all time, I don't care. Not buying that shit.

>>18093151
Yes, this is also basically the target demographic for the Harry Potter line. They also make an expenisve Wednesday fragrance, so that should tell you all you need to know about that.

>>18093144
I pretty much always recommend sampling, even with mass appealing stuff.

And yes, hit the nail on the head, they were “feminine” when they were released, but with the changing of time and preferences a guy could easily wear them, just don’t be surprised if you get weird looks if sampling them in public.

Asking a woman what frag she wears and hearing “Batman” is kinda cute and endearing. Asking a man and hearing “Batman” is kinda pathetic.

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>>18093159
>Ah I’m glad you asked. This is Batman Returns Pour Homme

>>18093159
On the surface, yes, but it’s really just perception.

If the chick is fat and nerdy (unattractive) it’s still gonna come off as weird. If the guy is 6’3 with a 6 pack, he’s “genuine” “doesn’t care what others think” and has “is his own person”.

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>>18093159
It would only be cute and endearing if the woman looked sheepish and embarrassed when she answered. Otherwise it would come off a bit too autistic to be cute. I agree that it would sound pathetic on most guys unless they are a certain eccentric flair already. For example I could see it working on this guy.

Question for the thread:
My entire life I have associated the word “musky” with sweat and body odor, basically “unclean”. But I’m slowly beginning to learn that when it comes to perfume musk means lightly sweet, powdery, and possibly even clean.

Is this correct, and am I the only one who had this perception?

>>18093144
jicky was and always has been a unisex perfume, guerlain lists it as a feminine mostly out of laziness and convenience.
the real redpill is that all of guerlain’s creations have really always been unisex regardless of how they were marketed. plenty of women have worn vetiver and habit rouge, and plenty of men have worn mitsouko and l’heure bleue. marketing shouldn’t stop you from wearing any of them.

>>18093160
I look like this and wear this and say this

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I fucking hate "fragcom" so much. It used to be a fun hobby and people were easy to talk to. Now everybody is a huge cunt. I hope they all die.

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>>18093207
She unironically seems non-judgmental and a true enthusiast. I think it is because she has a touch of the tism.

>>18093172
I've usually heard "musty" interchangeably with "musky", but usually there is a more negative connotation on the former. But it's not incorrect. Musk is a innately animalic scent, and serves the same function in animals as BO does in humans. There was a time when everyone smelled like BO all the time and presumably people didn't care all that much. But now we bathe and find that smell gross.

As far as musk in perfumery goes, like oud, rose, ambergris, civet, and castoreum, when you smell all of these things in nature (with the exception of rose, which doesn't smell bad until you start to concentrate it) all of theme can smell good when used in small quantities, but fucking revolting and gross when you smell a lot of it at once. Fresh ambergris smells like salty feces. But dry it out and get it in the right quantity and it smells like musky tobacco kind of smell. It's sweet. Musks and deeper animalic scents all serve as fixatives because they are long lasting and can help enhances other oils/aromachemicals.

>>18093215
>scents also serve as fixatives*

>>18093213
I mostly meant the people in the community more so than the youtubers. If anything, the influencers seem nicer and less judgmental than they used to be because now they've all got product to move. Just look at Aaron Terrance Hughes on his channel and compared to his guest appearances on Frag-Mental. It's fucking hilarious.

https://youtu.be/T18jySXP16E?si=0AZ_DRzef7o0yBuX&t=910

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xcap75SxZ4

>>18093222
I'll be nice to you anon. I'm too new to fragrances to have any basis to be a snooty cunt about anything. Unfortunately that limits how engaging my conversations can be.

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Bros, I just got a sample of this and it smells so good. Anything like it?

>>18093222
There's a lot of insecurity in fragcom. Always has been, but people are also just shittier across the board these days. But, as far as fragrcom specifically is concerned, it usually goes something like this
>Person wears whatever their parents wore/bought them, maybe something they found a drugstore
>Person decides to branch out and splurge on something nicer
>Maybe walks into Sephora or Macy's and smells a Bleu de Sauvage thing and buys it on the spot because they are appealing to 95% of the entire human race
>Goes home and is happy with their purchase
>Wants to see if other people also like the same thing
>Finds out that everyone in fragcom says Bleu de Sauvage is disgusting and wouldn't spray it on their worst enemy's abortion
>Gets really self conscious and orders a bunch of other samples that are fragcom approved
>Finds something they kind of like, but they also kind of like five other samples
>Can only afford one
>Make a selection and feel a bit of buyer's remorse, wondering what could have been
>Tries to stamp out this cognitive dissonance by convincing themself that only their choice is good, and all the other choices smell like butt cheese
>Goes online and fiercely defends their own decision as intensely as if they were the creative director of whatever house they bought from

>>18093226
Thanks, anon. I will be nice to you, too

>>18093233
>Anything like it?
hopefully not

>>18093241
See I don't have this problem because I like most things I smell. I have yet to be disappointed by a purchase I've made and I just ordered my 7th fragrance.

>>18093233
Roses Vanille by Mancera is kind of like it

>>18092588
How you like Dior Homme Sport? I'm back and forth between this and Dior Homme 2020.

>>18093215
Appreciate the response, and the depth of it at that, but it only partially answers my question. I understand scent perception changes depending on concentration, but it’s just so odd that in general conversation if you describe something as “musky” it is a given it smells bad, but in perfume reference it smells ‘light powder sweet’.

I guess I’m looking to confirm that description is correct? That describing a fragrance as musky means (roughly) light powdery sweet, where as describing a homeless person as musky would be a humorously polite way of saying they smell bad (body odor).

Also, in my experience musty and musky are not at all interchangeable, but this may be a regional thing. Musky is strictly applied to animals / humans. Musty applies to the scent of mold or mildew, things that are slightly damp, like a basement.

>>18093276
The way you were using the word is wrong. Musk: from the musk deer smells like sweet sweat. Must: smells damp or like old wet towels on the bathroom floor. When someone said a homeless person was musky they probably meant musty. North America, btw

>>18093276
>>18093297
Also, check out a musk deer's teeth, pretty interesting

>>18093297
Yeah I associate musty with mildew. I kind did assume musk was more sweaty smell sort of thing. I was aware there was actual musk and musk glands on some animals but I still though sweat.

>>18093308
>but I still though sweat
Then you were correct, but the sweet and pleasant variety. Think of how a lover smells. That is what it is attempting to emulate

>>18093276
>I understand scent perception changes depending on concentration, but it’s just so odd that in general conversation if you describe something as “musky” it is a given it smells bad, but in perfume reference it smells ‘light powder sweet’.
Technically "musk" only actually refers to the substance secreted by the male musk deer. Humans don't secrete "musk", and neither does any other animal apart from the musk deer. My guess would be that people started using it euphemistically as a polite way to refer to body odor, given that sweat is secreted from glands in human beans much in the same way musk is secreted from the musk deer.

People were pretty squeamish about bodily functions, historically speaking. It was probably easier to tell someone they smelled a bit musky than to just directly tell them they had BO and should go take a bath.

>>18093338
There's a musk duck as well

>>18093338
what was coming from Civet's glands then?

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>>18093276
fun fact: particularly musk heavy fragrances can smell like BO under a variety of circumstances. The actual scent profile is not far off, although when used correctly , you'd never notice. If left to mature long enough, musky fragrances can take on this quality as the base notes become stronger due to oxidation. But you can also artificially induce this property by smelling a musk-heavy scent after smelling fragrances with similar notes to the musky fragrance, but do not contain musk (or sometimes contain a different kind of musk).

This actually happens if you smell Aventus after wearing clones of Aventus like CDNI. OG Aventus is built around a specific captive musk compound that Olivier Creed obtained from another company, and that only Creed can use. It's the most powerful ingredient in the composition by far, and none of the clones contain it. The Aventus DNA (and this would include the clones) is also notorious for triggering olfactory fatigue extremely quickly, so if you spray a bunch of CDNI, sniff it until you can't smell anything, then immediately smell Aventus, the only thing you can smell is that powerful musk note and it smells very sweaty. Not full on B.O. smell, but very close.

>>18093347
It's been called "civet musk" but it's not the same thing. It's usually referred to as civet oil in perfumery. It's a matter of semantics though, they're the same concept. Same with Castoreum

>>18093354
That's pretty interesting. Thanks for the post

>>18093360
NP. homie

There’s clearly a bit of confirmation bias here, me just looking for someone to tell me I’m right, but as the one that started this whole conversation (>>18093172) >>18093338 this
>It was probably easier to tell someone they smelled a bit musky than to just directly tell them they had BO and should go take a bath.
Is basically what I was looking for.

I do appreciate learning some of these more interesting side notes tho, eg >>18093299
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>>18093271
its okay but have no comparison do DH2020

>>18092566
well I do but the final smell of any given amount is finally affected by time. and I want it to start fading when I'm about to leave job or when I'm back home, not when I actually GET TO the office
plus I get we use perfumes for own satisfaction but be honest, we all want to smell good for gf, friends, colleagues etc