This thread is for male milking machine images especially with stationary restraints, but also any cool self-bondage scenarios anyone has come up with- especially those involving some kind of milker or stroker. Apologies for starting the thread with this crummy image I threw together in koikatsu studio, but I wanted to pitch my idea here and get some feedback. (I will follow this image with some proper ones so I'm not just being a faggot)Basically pic related will give you the main idea of what I'd like to have made, rough as it is, but a few details elaborated on here/how I'd like to really flesh it out.Essentially it's just an overdesigned chair or chaise lounge, function will come over form but if it can look nice and sci-fi by the addition of a nice white plexiglass 'shell' of some kind or something I'm going to spend the money to do it. The idea comes from some other machine bondage images I've seen with these kind of inflatable 'sleeve' cuffs where the limbs can be placed in, then the interior soft lining inflates to 'trap' the limb. I was thinking latex for mine, but I'm open to suggestions, just needs to be a material thats fairly tough, stretchy so it can be inflated, and comfy. Latex is sexy but it doesn't breath very well... So maybe something more like the sort of fabric used by those blood pressure sleeves from a doctor. It seems pretty comfortable while also being really restrictive, kind of like a full latex vacbed but just for the limbs with straps to supplement and add restriction.The idea is with this you could easily self-gag, attach the harness at the top to stop head movement, buckle up your waist/chest, place your limbs into the sleeves, then a (analogue/non digital of course) timer would begin after a short delay that inflates the sleeves for however long you wanted to be restrained. Obviously this is also accompanied by something like the serious kit milker or even something 'simpler' like the Venus 2000 for men.
>>10989541Other toys/accessories are easily incorporated as well of course- butt plugs, nipple teasers, e-stim pads, whatever. Anyway my primary concern with the setup is would this type of restraint system work at all? Is there a safe balance between something inflatable that can restrict movement/prevent limbs from being pulled out of their sleeves but that also doesn’t restrict blood flow to the limbs to a dangerous level for up to 90 minutes or so? I honestly don’t know, maybe you guys do. I would assume its doable as long as the material is soft enough that it still allows just a bit of wiggle but not enough to fully pull a limb out? Obviously this plan is super early on the drawing board but honestly I think at some point I’ll proceed with it by just hiring an engineer to draw the plans and instructions for me on building it properly. I have no shame about my fetishes so I’d just find someone on fiverr willing to design it for me, send me the plans/instructions and then build it myself.
>>10989542This is also just the base element- I really wanna have something properly scifi and have a machine dominatrix- So after I confirmed the proof of concept the next step would be figuring out a system to hook up to it where I connect a LLM to a machine monitoring my vitals. The idea would be something where I have like a little monitor I could see while strapped in with a simple animated avatar/kind of a v-tuber type character and the LLM hooked up to text to speech- it would comment and potentially taunt or cheer me on as Im milked, making comments every so often- the personality could be modular thanks to the nature of stronger LLMs where I could have anything from a cute peppy nurse encouraging me to cum to a sterile and clinical machine heartlessly confirming my behavior and responses. Ideally the vitals monitor would be something that could be sensitive enough or calibrated correctly that it could identify each time I climax so that the LLM could comment on orgasms specifically.By the way, anybody is of course welcome to steal this idea if they find it as hot as me. Not that you need permission. But I just thought it was awesome tech has potentially evolved to a point where this is all possible as long as you’re willing to throw the money at it and not too embarrassed to higher the engineer and coder you’d need to make it work. [spoiler] (I myself check these boxes but at the moment I don’t have the space for such a device, and I don’t think my wife will be very happy with the idea… lol) [/spoiler]
>>10989545Ahhh damnit spoiler tags don't work on this board. Oh well.
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This image kind of looks like it has the sleeve thing Im talking about.
>>10989551Also as someone whose experienced it holy shit the lubed-up stockings/pantyhose/soft gauze being rubbed over the head of your cock is super intense. Can't imagine what it would feel like here if it was really like this with a machine doing it at some crazy speed. Would brain fry me for sure. That would definitely be another long term goal is something that could replicate that as an alternative to a 'vanilla' milker.
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>>10989556I'm spent. Sadly everything else I have in this genre is either western, furry, or too shota-looking.
>>10989545hire* derp.Found one more pic.part 2 of >>10989548
>>10989541Have you experimented with e-stim?It's rather ideal for this sort of thing.
For safety, I would go with simple wide straps design for bdsm play and attach an electric magnetic door lock system to it it can hold the door from a human it can hold your hand.Then use MULTIPLE analog and digital clocks in a line to cut out the electricity. In this case if one of them failing or two you are safe. (I would use 6) if the breaker turns off you are safe. Whatever you build be sure when it has bo power it is not blocking you any way to free yourself. And you need to add emergency stop mechanism I saw sone images have fuck machines on them if anything goes wrong (you start bleeding as an example) you need to able to stop it. But the safest way if you have a playmate who monitoring you while you are having fun. (Talk to your wife if she loves you she will do it for you)
>>10990515Yeah, I have one of those fox estim unit things, desu the penile ones did very little for me compared to pretty much any other masturbator, I was pretty disappointed cause I had heard those orgasms are super intense but no such luck, I've heard there are tricks to getting it right though so maybe I was doing something wrong?The buttplug on the other hand hooollly shit. I wasn't really into prostate stuff until I got that thing and I figured well fuck I paid for the damn thing with the set I may as well try it- good lord, it's hard to compare anything to having your prostate getting estim, especially when you let it do the "AI" mode where it randomly jumps a significant voltage for a few seconds, I was literally squealing like bitch and oozing pre from that shit. I wish I wasn't scared of getting rectal cancer from the damn thing otherwise I'd probably have that fucker plugged in my ass every time I jerked off. Ive only used it two or three times cause of the risks.>>10990933Yeah sadly you're the voice of reason here, I really love the idea of the inflatable sleeves for bondage cause its so much more unique of a sensation but at the end of the day electronic magnets with your typical straps are gonna be cheaper, easier to build with, and probably more logical.My wife would agree to it if we had the space but man, its literally the only fantasy I have that I'm embarrassed to talk to her about. She's incredibly submissive by nature and it's the only drawback to our otherwise solid sex life, so I was just thinking of ways to appeal to my submissive side that don't force her into taking a role she's not interested in/can't pull off.
>>10990938Great she is already have an idea about non vanilla relation ship. You can express her you are still dominant 90% of the time but in the 10% would be a nice feeling to give up control. The name for this is "switch" it is common. Than you can start with something like she straps you to a char or if you have a bondage set for a bed already you can switch time to time. Than get the "Hot Octopuss Jett Guybrator" (stupid name) and try it if it works than put it on ask her to restrict you and turn it of she can even left the room is he wants to.But going back to the automated milking machines, with restriction. I am playing with the idea for a while and did some research (that's why I suggested the magnetic locks). There is an edging machine for man called: "The Edge-o-Matic" I would try to combine that with the restricting system. Unfortunately I am living in a busy city so renting an extra space to develop it is impossible. I was thinking to learn a little bit about micro controllers just because of that.
>>10990938* You can attach inflatable sleeves to the magnet no problem.
>>10990938>I have one of those fox estim unit thingsWhat product are you talking about specifically?>I've heard there are tricks to getting it right though so maybe I was doing something wrong?Absolutely. If done right the stimulation is FAR more intense than any masturbator. You could have had a shitty e-stim unit, you could have had shitty electrodes, your electrode placement could have been shitty. Lots of possibilities here. There's a learning curve to it but when you get it right... think panic-inducingly intense edging. For fucking hours. Or absolutely mind-meltingly intense orgasms. The pleasurable penile sensation can be so intense that you're pretty much gonna need self-bondage.
>>10991706Sorry, wrong canine, the DG labs coyote is the one I have.https://www.dungeon-lab.com/e-stim-unit3.0.php(Though I have the 2.0 version, not 3)They seem to be pretty highly reviewed but idk if it can do what you're talking about of course. Are there any good tutorials I can read somewhere to achieve what you're talking about?>>10990962Yeah don't worry I've known what a switch is and have known I was one for more than a decade anon, haha. It's just that my wife as I already stated is extremely submissive. I've suggested her topping in the past and she has little to no interest in it, that being said it was pretty long ago and might be worth asking about again, and I do think she would be okay with just being a supervisor/safety net for self bondage actually, I just feel like she would feel left out/like I don't desire her :( I guess the best way to handle that would be to ask her if shes still not interested in trying topping and then using that as a segway to express my unmet needs and see how she feels about helping me get there in at least a passive sense.
>>10990962Oh wow I just checked out that edge-o-matic you mentioned and it's pretty much exactly what I need for the big setup Im dreaming of in the OP- would be perfect for both the straight forward aspect of it edging but also really useful for integration with the LLM- it could make the 'AI' aware every time I was close to cumming and such/might even be able to let the AI control the milking device better and such.
>>10991938OK, so your e-stim unit isn't the issue. I have it too and it's good. My guess is more likely your electrode placement/type was not ideal and less likely your stim settings weren't ideal.What was your electrode placement/type?What stim settings did you use? Did you use the xtoys app to play back audio? Because that's the ideal way to use the Coyote.
>>10992029>What was your electrode placement/type?I tried the silicone rings with the steel 'beads' placed around the base of my glans/the frenulum, and a plain silicone ring near the base. They were on one channel if that's important.>What stim settings did you use? Did you use the xtoys app to play back audio? No, I just used the default app and some random patterns I had enjoyed using with the butt plug previously. It didn't hurt or anything but I just found the sensations kinda underwhelming, jumping the voltage or whatever up didn't really help/if I went to overly high it was just painful. Any tips/advice? Do I really have to use some other app and use audio files or whatever for a proper experience? That's kind of a bummer to hear if so since the default app delivers such a good experience with the butt plug.
>>10992814For a quick wank:8mm conductive rubber/silicone tubing+cord locks (so DIY loops). No beads - those beads are a bad idea and potential hotspots/burn risks. The 8mm is best for this - more surface area so a smoother sensation and less burn risk. One around shaft at base of glans, one around shaft+balls. For the one around shaft+balls, wrap electrical tape around the tubing so only the middle of it is exposed, so the only conductive part touching you is at the base of your balls. This forces the current to stimulate two nerves at once - without this tape you'll only be stimulating a single nerve. For e-stim setting here, a constant waveform oscillating back and forth between 50 Hz and 100 Hz will work well.Alternately, one 8mm loop around shaft at base of cock and one anal electrode. This will run current through your shaft and prostate and can produce orgasm in 10-30 seconds. This is an incredible sensation - it basically fills up your entire fucking middle pelvis with sensation. Again, a constant waveform oscillating back and forth between 50 Hz and 100 Hz will work well.For long-term edging:You'll want a setup that can stimulate only your glans for this. This is VERY intense but glans-only stim generally won't produce orgasm, so this is perfect for edging. There's two ways to do this:1. Electrode pads held in place by a solid (not bar design) design resin (not metal) chastity cage. You need tiny pads for this, like 16mm round pads, and there's a higher burn risk with pads than with conductive rubber/silicone. One pad on each side of glans, and a third pad on top of glans you can connect to a fourth pad at base of balls or inside anus. Not recommended due to burn risk.2. Conductive tubing+cord locks (6mm here instead of 8) run through the bars of a bar design resin (not metal) chastity cage. You basically rig this so the tubing runs through the bars of the cage's bars.
>>10992814>>10992915(Cont.) Two of the loops contact the sides of your glans and you run current from one of these to the other. One loop runs through the middle/front of the cage and contacts the tip/urethra of your glans (does not penetrate). Then you connect that loop to either a loop at the base of your balls/cock or an anal electrode. This is obviously a two channel setup - I find alternating between short bursts of 100 Hz and 10 Hz current here works well for edging - experiment. This setup has never burned me - in general I've never been burned by loops, just pads. Avoid pads.>why chastity cages?They hold the electrodes in place very well. This prevents burns.For all of these setups, one key is using plenty of conductive lube. For pads you want conductive adhesive and for loops you want conductive gel. For gel you can either buy Spectra 360 or you can just mix some baking soda into some cheap water-based lube. Either way, use lots of it - if you weren't doing this, this may be one reason your experience was sub-par.For estim settings, you're going to want to learn how to use Audacity to craft audio files to play back with Xtoys app. There's no way around this - this is the best/most powerful way to use the Coyote. Once you experiment with this and learn what works and doesn't, you will be on your way to earth-shattering orgasms and torturous long-term edging.
>>10992814>>10992915>>10992918For long-term audio files: you'll want to ramp up the sensation long sessions because you gradually get accustomed to the current and if you just leave the current at the same level, it gradually becomes less intense over time. So, you craft your audio file to get steadily louder over time to counteract this.
>>10992861moar?
>>10989541good thread
>>10991941I have an older version of the edge-o-matic, when it was just a little disc with flashy lights instead of fancy numbers and shit. It does pretty great. Takes a few sessions to get it dialed in right; if you have it too low, the edges aren't satisfying, and too high, it just ruins your orgasm. But once you hit that sweet spot, you can get a handful of edges out of it. I can get about 10-15 really good ones before it ruins one. I can only imagine the newer ones really do it. I also got a magnetic lock off etsy. magbound i believe is the name. put some cuffs on it. As long as it's plugged in, it stays locked. I use a wemo, which is a wifi controlled plug to control it. set a timer for 30 mins on it. get everything set up, put the controller for the edge o matic within reach. use my phone to activate the lock, throw phone. activate edgeomatic, throw it. have fun!
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Wish society would hurry up and become horny enough for you to just buy stuff like this or rent them. Japan made the right call with love hotels, they just haven't gone far enough.
>>10989551what is even being done to his cock? I dont understand
>>10998149It's a soft thin piece of fabric, and the pools are alternating in length causing the fabric to drag side to side or possibly rub in circles. Meanwhile he's getting drenched in lube I think.
>>10998163Oh that's hot actually
>>10998134The closest you can get to that is hiring a dominatrix to bind you securely and use a Venus for Men on you, maybe with something extra on it like a Serious Kit or an Edge o Matic.
>>10989541>>10989542>>10989545>>10989555>>10990933>>10990938>>10990962>many moreJesus fucking christ, you need a hobby that isn't porn
>>11001345>two holes, balls and a dick?????
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>>11001651>What is a hermaphrodite?
>>11002851>cruelty free*>*cruelty is subjectiveI am going to steal that for a scene at a club.
>>11001651That's what futa was supposed to be
>>11004473It also looks weird because the balls are where the vagina should be, the vagina is where the anus should be and the anus is where the tailbone should be.I guess it's a poorly-drawn hermaphrodite?
>>11004857With a gaping asshole, stretched pussy, massive balls and a huge cock to fit onto a petite frame, some shifting around needs to happen. Honestly, I don't come to /d/ for realism, just try to enjoy the sexy pictures.
>>10992918Thanks a lot for the info dump anon, sorry it's taken me so long to reply, hope you're still around or another anon knows-For the first one with a butt plug and one at the base and glans do they all need to be on the same channel or is just syncing them okay? All my connecter wires only have two outputs, do I need to buy ones that have 3 outputs?
>>11005478For penis+plug I would recommend just starting out with a two electrode setup: one loop around your shaft at the base of your glans, and one anal electrode. Thus, you will only need one channel and you'll only need to connect two outputs to electrodes. This will simply run current back and forth between the penile electrode and the anal electrode.Tri-phase cables are absolutely a thing but just start out with a two electrode setup and if you like that then maybe experiment more after that.
>>11005540Thanks for the reply and explanation, but also fug, this means I'll still have to buy some more cables regardless cause my anal plug is on its own cable/cant be connected along with anything else on the same channel :(Is it bad to use two channels? What's the drawback? Less sensation? The coyote app can sync them, so shouldn't it work? I got some audio files that are highly praised and wanted to try tonight, but the only way I'm going to be able to pair the loops with the anal plug is if they're on two channels.
>>11005592>Is it bad to use two channels? What's the drawback?If you have one channel stimming just the penis and one channel stimming just the anus, it's gonna feel nice, but it's not gonna be anywhere near as intense as current running back and forth between the penis and the anus. You may struggle to orgasm at all from this.Conversely, using a single channel, with one output connected to a cock loop and the other output connected to the plug, will fill your entire central pelvis with intense sensation which can deliver intense orgasm in under 30 seconds with the right setting. Its incomparable. Completely different sensation - way more intense.To be clear: does your plug have a cable attached to it which can't be detached from it? Or does it simply have two inputs? Because if it's the latter, you can use only one of the inputs and connect the other output which would normally go to plug with a cock loop instead.If it's the former you'll just need a different plug. The Moaner is a commonly recommended one.
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