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>>143547963>The previous thread perished in silence.And that's a good thing!Unironically, fuck the shitposter
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>>143547963thanks, OP. I couldn't read the storytime earlier, but I saw it was a shitshow from the resident schizoid anyway, so I'm glad for the actual one
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>>143547978>>143548000>>143548014>>143548028Uh, OP, you're posting the m.jpg versions. This is what happens when you phonepost
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>>143548045Sorry. Image file information is new to me. Does that make them unreadable? >>143548034
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>>143548076nta, but you can read them just fine. Sizes are just a tad small, but I think we'll live
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>>143547963bumpin for non-schizo storytimer
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>>143548076It's not unreadable, but it means you're posting these auto-resized smaller versions instead of the full hi-res version of the pages. It's something 4chan does on the mobile version of the site, but it used to be restricted only to a few boards until recently. You can still access the full resolution version of the files if you just go into the address bar and remove the 'm' just before the .jpg. Sometimes you'll have to change the extension as well, depending on what the original file extension is (since the resize turns every image file into a jpg), but again it's as easy as just changing the address.I'll take your storytime anyways, since it's still readable and you're not the resident shitposter. Anything is better than that retard.
>>143548129Ah. I see. >>143548097 Sorry again everyone.
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>>143548262I love when a fight is too much of a stalemate, so the two sides basically decide to leave it for another time
>>143548262I I tried changing the extensions. Didn't work. I'll try experimenting later. >>143548134Sorry man thank you everyone for your patience.
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>>143548355Norman feet uwu
>>143548391Sorry once more people and I'll try to see if I can change the sizes on my own so this mistake doesn't happen again.
>>143548420no problem and thanks for the storytime
>>143548289>>143548420No worries anon, at the end of the day, you've delivered a non-shitpost storytime, which outweighs anything else
I didn’t know this thing is out already, gotta catch up now.>>143548045DEMATTEIS!!!!! STOP LEGITIMATING SLOTT SHIT!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEJust retcon *that* Emily to be a clone and be done with it, holy shit.
>>143548420Thanks for the effort OP, don't sweat it.
>>143548262>>143548289I like when they humanize his villains, it’s always good shit.It also humanizes Spidey, and shows that he isn’t a dumbass for letting people live. Flint Marko doesn’t deserve to die. He deserves a chance to fix his life.
>>143547963Bump
>>143548370>readheaded EmilyWoman just keeps changing hair colors buuuut I think this is officially my favorite shade for her.
>>143548129>TV has a headlinge about and naming the "proto-goblin"that dont make no sensehighly doubt a mistake that huge was in the script
>>143548560JMD is too nice. Slott would never do the same for him.
>>143549126>yeah, I'll make a good story out of your garbage retcons, DannyJMD, in his head
>>143548370>angry Emily scary.I wonder why she's kidnapped Harry after all these years and what she's after.
>>143549097Yeah, to have a proto, there's got to be others running around. I'm chalking it down to Peter forgetting what they were calling Nels at the time and his memory affecting the setting.
>>143549454he'd be more likely to be called Red Hulk, really
>>143549767Red blanka
>>143549767Or an ogre. Those can be red. Goblins are tiny skittering critters. I'd think of Ogres before Goblins if I saw him.
>>143549389Clearly has psychological issues.
>>143548370It'll turn out Harry's a rape baby, explaining Emily's conflicted relationship with him and making him a living reminder to Norman of the time he lost control and destroyed the only good thing that ever happened to him.
>>143550533JMD is edgy but I don't see him writing Harry as a rape baby. If it's anything similar, I can, at most, see.JMD writing the marriage as arranged but the sex was consensual.
>>143548028Is that symbolic or an actual pendant Norman had custom made?
>>143550587Who would arrange the hypothetical marriage.
>>143548076Either Emily's got one hell of a poker face or she's had more than an introductory to science basics in college.
>>143550587JMD's edgy but he ultimately is optimistic in his writing desu.
>>143551519Shitpost: Emily is Stromm's granddaughter.
>>143551550With a massive red fist clamped her throat, Emily is still bullying Nels. Either way, Lyman has a superb poker face.
>>143548420Danny please save us from Lowe's reign of terror.
>>143552537I have no doubt that Lowe will have to be dragged from his cushy ASM job kicking and screaming like a newborn baby.
>>143548262God, I've missed Spideykino
>>143552496I can see why Norman married the woman and mourned her for years. His old flame has a brassiere of steel.
>>143552496>>143553302How JMD wrote Emily Lyman-Osborn as a bad bitch without making it feel forced as fuck is beyond me.
>Goes on to Xwitter>reads complaints over the green goblin seeming at all sympathetic.>Closes XwitterYou know... For the record, while it can be overdone, it can occasionally be beneficial to allow a villain to have some gray areas rather than making them so unbelievably awful that they cease to feel like real people and instead become a concentrated container for ultra evil cliches.
>>143554352I understand the feeling coming from ASM fatigue, Wells' run really stretched the humanization of Norman thin.
>>143554352>>143555058My feeling is that Norman was never a good person, given that he still did things like screw over Stromm even before his serum drove him insane...But on the other hand, he still had humanizing things about him. His fondness for Harry was sincere, if warped. He's genuinely mentally ill, not just heinous. If it weren't for the Death of Gwen Stacy and then him puppeteering everything from Clone Saga onwards on his return, he'd just be a noteworthy villain rather than 'worse than Hitler.'
>>143548194Brutal.
>>143555241Our boy Peter is finally having fun playing with the other mutates and that's what matters.
>>143554352That is some nonsense. The kind of complexity we're seeing is not necessarily moral, at least not in the sense of being "morally right." Love is a complicated emotion that might be immoral or morally neutral. The complexities of a psychotic abuser's affection do not make them any less terrifying to the sane. Because of Norman's actions, his beloved son bears significant psychological scars, and at best, his humanity is so deeply buried in his psyche that his paternal love is a neutral attribute at best. It's not like the writer is praising Norman for giving a damn about Harry.
>>143553957Emily rn.
>>143555618Aww
>>143551973>Norman ratted out his ex's father-in-law for profit.Really living the dream.
>>143548332Considering proto-goblin survived point-blank gunshot wounds to the head, Osborn's serum would be rather impressive if it wasn't killing Adder.
>>143548289I just want Sandman to go back to his 90s status quo
>>143556318The Mackie run is the root of almost everything wrong with modern Spider-Man comics.
>>143548000>>143548014Bartender deserves it, listening to your customer's woes is an important part of your job.
>>143556412Expound, please
>>143556616nta but all I can think of is it being the first "real" attempt to regress Peter back to being a bachelor.The other issues happened either during BND or Slott's run
>>143556412True, and its a shame cause it came after a fun era of married spidey dealing with having a dead kid.
>>143556616I'm exaggerating a bit; there are other writers who shared a couple of his flaws, but it has everything I dislike about modern writing: Unable to form long cohesive plots, he gave hurried and unsatisfying explanations, never resolved cliffhangers, was not big on continuity, was overly reliant on cliches, had bad dialogue, was bad at characterization, tried to undo months, years, even decades of character development and regressed everyone it touched, obnoxious men named Paul, tried desperately to replace MJ with terrible love interests, nonsense magical plots that make no sense and are out of place in the Spider-Man mythos, asspull victories for our hero that just left the reader cold, villains suddenly becoming genocidal maniacs for contrived reasons, loser Peter, tried to write MJ out, a sudden OC addition to Gwen's backstory who was never mentioned in the original stories, needs support from better writers to tell a good story, hackneyed sequels to better stories that are an insult to the original, introduced a (bad) new Spider-Person, everything takes a backseat to mindless action, and disastrously tried to retcon Chapter One as the new continuity. I know I'm missing something. It's bad from the start, and it keeps falling apart as the plot moves along. To be honest, the guy reads like an inspiration to the BND crew.
>>143556414His attitude is really not the best one to have if you want to de-escalate a problematic situation. A very dangerous way to run a business where you sell alcohol to guests who could have super powers and you wouldn't know it.
>>143556318Reminder that Byrne made Sandman a villain again because he wanted him to be related to Norman Osborn.
>>143557435Only truly fucked up supervillains still sport the Chester.
>>143557488The hair always knows.
>>143549088Someone should give that woman some freckles.
>>143548028>Norman creeping in the doorwayHomie couldn't be normal if he tried.
>>143548105Both of them are really going through it.
>>143548129>>143548156>He knew that future would never come.Geez. The Stacys are freaking cursed. All three of the people in that room will be dead in less than five years.
>>143548218Hope some nice homeless people found all that cash.
>>143548237I hope protogoblin doesn't accidentally kill anyone.
>>143548289Normally I'd be annoyed but Peter's a brand new superhero so I'll let it slide since he'll make this mistake with a worse villain later.
>>143548303Speaking of, Norman, that green and purple do not go well together.
>>143557786SCIENCE FACT: The average life expectancy for pancreatic cancer is six months. Gwen's mom will die in excruciating discomfort!
>>143548355It's kind of ironic to see Norman beg someone not to hurt his son when he's the type who goes after loved ones to make a point.
>>143548420Thanks op! I don't usually notice but is it unusual to get no letters? There's a bigger call here than in the last issue.
>>143548370All Emily needs is a mallet to break Harry's knees and to gain a few more pounds and she'd be perfect for the part of Annie Wilkes.
>>143554352They're just ignoring the part about Norman experimenting on Nels huh? Or last issue Norman was bullying Harry for almost getting kidnapped.
>>143548391If Spider-Man wasn't already saving people who disliked him as Peter Parker, this would make the College hazing period a little awkward. No good deed goes unpunished.>violating curfewAunt May's gonna be pissed.
>>143557864SCIENCE FACT: Gwen's mom isn't in the hospital to be cured or even just to live longer, but so she can receive round the clock intravenous pain medication to die a bit more comfortably.
>>143557911That's just how it is with these people: there's no ability to look at the work as a whole. To even be a little bit generous and believe the author is trying to make a point. That the complexity might be test the moral frame work, not dismiss or undermine it. It's just a checklist of purity tests. Did the villain have a moment where they didn't come off as the most pure evil piece of shit ever? How dare the writer try to white wash them!
>>143557823He already killed people in his original story.
>>143558028>#3>The biggest mistake of NORMAN OSBORN's life is back to haunt him…and it ain't who you think! >#4>Witness the birth of the GREEN GOBLIN as there is no coming back from the choice NORMAN OSBORN makes in this issue.Reads like they need a little more patience. He'll be committing violent crimes in no time. Then again, I was surprised fans were bored with the conversation that went on in Ultimate so I guess I should lower my expectations.
>>143558121I meant his family. Protogoblin destroyed the mannequins last issue and desu that could be foreshadowing. It be tragic if he accidentally kills his wife or something when it's obvious how much he misses them.
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>>143557864>>143557972PERSONAL OPINION: What's sumatra with you? Y'all need to reach down deep and order a latte happiness instead of a depresso espresso.
>>143557863He's rich enough to dress up like Barney the dinosaur and nobody will ever say anything about it to his face.
>>143558282Spider-Man will say it. Spider-Man will not shut up about it.
>>143558282And yet, it's still not enough to save him from people dissing his hair.
>>143558300>Norman doesn't carey'know, for all the shit he gets for it, I don't really remember a time when he got upset by people making a joke abiut his hair. My boy is confident enough about that to not care.
>>143558298Peter Parker is the hero we need and deserve.>>143558300They fear the power of his 360° waves and patented durag technology.
>>143558342He knows he looks good and respects the power of a trademark appearance. It's fashionable and practical.
>>143557911Harry should have torn off his shirt and shown Proto who's boss.
>>143558028Love and abusive parents are a hard limit for some fans. I can see the reasoning for it. People who abuse children are worse than scum. Still, some parents who abuse their children do so not because they don't love them. Rather, it's because they have baggage and were harmed as well and haven't healed from past traumas. Some parents are unable to raise their children in a healthy, nonthreatening manner for a range of reasons. Using the "no true Scotsman" fallacy blinds fans to the connection between personal trauma history and child abuse. It would be too simple to say that a parent doesn't love their child. It raises no concerns. The fact that so many individuals still justify certain forms of abuse despite research against certain disciplinary tactics "because mom and/or dad not like those evil caricatures I've heard about, they loved me" as a decent parenting approach shows how trauma is passed down through generations, mentally imprisoning us and enabling widespread abuse by defending parental misconduct on the basis that "abusers don't love".It doesn't immediately follow that an abusive parent isn't a right bastard just because you can demonstrate how their suffering and life lessons affected their parenting. It is merely a statement regarding the complicated nature of people..that
>>143557515Fit from that one NormanEmily pic.
>>143558744I've also seen it brought up there's a reflexive rejection of the portrayal of people who do "bad" things also doing things that the viewer thinks should be done. Because it messes up their internal view of morality: as a checklist where you do and say all the right things and thus are a good person. And, importantly, never need to worry about further self reflection. Why would you? After all, you've done the good things. A bad person never does those things, that's why they're bad.The "revelation" that even the worst people can do things you recognize as good causes an existential crisis. Cause that's not supposed to happen. After all, if a person who does X good thing can still do Y bad thing, and thus be bad, what does that say about YOU, who does X good thing? Sure you, and the people you think are good, could never be bad, right?
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I think Norman should have several ex-wives he accidentally married after his most recent mental health crisis. So like Emily is after he knocks her up and freaks out over having a baby out of wedlock (Catholic guilt hitting him hard). Gwen after the whole Harry drug use drama and he resolves that issue with a bridge yeet. Kolina after yet another "muh Peter muh Goblin" rant and he runs away from that only to have her turn stalker/cult leader on him.
>>143547963looks like read hulk.
>>143558744Every time Norman's mistreatment is mentioned, I'm reminded of how Norman effectively endorsed Amberson's handling of him. That, in my eyes, is crucial to any conversation about how he is presented as a parent. Norman has never felt that Amberson is weak or incompetent due to Amberson's unacceptable conduct toward him and his mother. Instead, Norman's father was not a man since he never achieved that cherished financial security. He's given himself something emotionally "safe" to be upset about in relation to his father. That point of reasoning is consistent with the rationalization that Amberson previously employed. Like many children who experience abuse, Norman internalized the message sent by his abuser—including the implicit belief that he deserved to be mistreated. In his scenario, it was "because he was weak." Tragically, for poor Harry, he took his father's lessons in cruelty and applied them to his own child when he eventually became a parent. Norman's backstory is obviously not an excuse for the abuse. Norman was wealthy and had the option to break the cycle and choose to use therapy to unlearn those damaging lessons he was taught as a child. However, I think it's an intriguing perspective that is more nuanced than abuse typically receives.>>143559078I blame Disney. Some people need villains to be black and white at all times and if you give them a little complexity they either think the villain was secretly right the whole time or accuse the author of supporting the villain over his victims. Both groups can be utterly insufferable in their moral grandstanding.
>>143558888I am always shocked how good Harry's features look on a woman.
>>143558342There was that Cable story in Dark Reign that shows he used to get bullied and beaten up for it.
>>143558744A bit of a blogpost:I hated my father, but I'm not gonna pretend there weren't times he wasn't completely awful. I would think twatterites of all people, being emotionally damaged sociopathic failures at life like myself, would be able to recognize and relate to that kind of experience.
>>143561401I don't know you, anon, but even if you were gwenshizo, I would say you're not a sociopathic failure at life; you're a person who's doing what you're able to do to deal with this mess we call life as best as you can. You're still alive and kicking, so you haven't lost anything, and that's something to be proud of.
>>143558888Cool art! I don't know if you're taking requests, could you draw Gabe or Sarah or hamsters? If not, sorry for bugging you.
>>143561844>even if you were gwenshizoI may have some issues, but I don't hate myself nearly enough to even entertain that thought.
>>143561882Lmao.
>>143561882But what if you WERE the Gwenschizo and you didn't even know it?
>>143561152>think the villain was secretly right the whole timeThank the gods Normanfags will never be Thanosfags or Lokifags.
>>143561951That's what the Tumblr Harryfags are for.
>>143556928>nta but all I can think of is it being the first "real" attempt to regress Peter back to being a bachelor.When was this? What storyline? I was a 90s kid and all I remember is Peter and MJ being happily married and dealing with normal issues like paying the mortgage or trying to quit smoking. (Along with all the issues that come with being a superhero or the wife of one.)
>>143557248>>143556928When was his run? They were trying to break up Peter and MJ before BND?
>>143562213Yeah, the latter stages of the Clone Saga saw some try to break up Peter and MJ and then during the Mackie/Byrne run they killed her off by blowing up a plane only to walk it back and reveal she had been kidnapped by some nobody.
>>143562113>LokifagsNorman can only take so much blame for his adult son; in the end, the acts Harold committed to harm Peter were his own. I find it a little annoying when people occasionally bend over backwards to excuse Harry's transgressions, but The Harry fans are not that bad yet.
>>143561308I remember that one, but it is funny that it's Norman (or rather, his Goblin side) bringing it up and even then it's in relation to what his hair was like when he was in his youth. Unruly and untamed, perhaps, not under his control.
>>143562431>sensitive skinHarry: Dad, why do we never visit the beach? Everyone at school goes!Norman: *a proper red head who burns up like a lobster at the slightest touch of the summer sun* The sun knows what it did.
>>143547970>>The previous thread perished in silence.>And that's a good thing!>Unironically, fuck the shitposterwhat the are are you complaing for it was in Storytimed was it not? oh and by the way I frown very much on dupllicate threads especially since this has now been Storytimed TWICE in the same day.>>143543257STOP FLOODING THE BOARD WITH DUPLICATE THREADS RETARD.
>>143562431Raven looks so perturbed.
>>143562589PISS OFF
oh dear, the piss baby woke up
>>143562589A psycho with DID has bombs planted inside of her and can blow her up at any moment. I would be a little worried after meeting his other "major shareholder" too.
>>143548004that was the actual one did you even bother to read the title of that thread?
>>143562627Why are are you complaing? does it not matter that it was Storytimed before?
>>143562627I suppose this means you will start spamming/ flooding this thread with pretty pictures featuring Gwen stacy's death now right? start doing such a stupid thing then enjoy getting reported for being off-topic and spamming.
>pretty pictures featuring Gwen stacy's death>prettyhey, your words, not mine
>>143562576I mean... OP politely waited until your thread died. That's the opposite of spamming.
>>143562733I know you all to well anon I am sure you will now start posting your favourite pictures of Gwen's death.
>>143548262This that good shit.
>>143562761doesn't change the fact that this was Storytimed the same day thus that makes it flooding a board.
>>143562776wrong
>>143562761By making this thread the same day you made a fool of the previous person he did waste his storytiming it did he not?
I am real glad Peter and mj are no longer a thing in 616 since I never cared for MJ. Many others wanted the marraige to be gone long before OMD happened.
really baiting there for a (You), aren't ya?
>>143562861Am I really? do you have any idea how many people wanted the marriage to be gone? I will clue you on in they were LOTS and they wanted it gone for two reasons for one thing MJ was not the right girl for peter and secondly spider-man was not really spider-man anymore.
>>143562589>Norman: Tries to avoid touching her because he has a healthy wariness and respect for her abilities. As a result, she feels a measure of control over a bad situation since the villain she's working with is making an effort to play nice with her and seems to want her assistance for the long haul.>Gobby: He's immediately hostile, makes no bones about wanting her and her party dead, and walks all over her boundaries.It's reassessment time.
>>143563096fuck off
>>143562861>really baiting there for a (You), aren't ya?OMD is still canon dude as is MJ/Paul being a couple and so is norman selling harry's soul to mephisto.
not even commfag bothers to show up, /co/ is so dead
>>143563357I was wondering about him as well. I wonder if that one fag shitting on him for also posting the pics on reddit drove him away
>>143562810Not the op and I don't see how anyone was 'humiliated'.
>>143563544Some posters just don't like it when threads are completely spoilered. There's nothing personal about ignoring threads that have chosen to go with something unpopular.>>143563357The Spider-Fanbase is really struggling right now.
>check what Spidey comics are out next week>Miles>Carnage>Venom but the other one>What if? Venom>ASM Blood Huntweak showing. Week after that will be more meaty tho.
>>143563710>The Spider-Fanbase is really struggling right now.Please let the next writer be decent
>>143563710>The Spider-Fanbase is really struggling right now.X-fags win big time just look at how many threads we have on /co/ it's time to give up spider-fags
I just realized who Gwenschizo reminds me of. You know how you'll have all those east vs west threads with some guy going "manga sells a bazillion copies and is not woke the west has fallen millions must die" and so on? And then if you'd ask any /a/utist what they think of this dude they'd say he was cringe and a faggot and /co/ can enjoy western comics as much as they want?Gwenschizo is a version of that. He'll come here and say "X-men has a bazillion threads up and has a bazillion series the Spidey has fallen millions must goon". Meanwhile any X-men fan who knows of him will say he's a retarded, spamming faggot who should kill himself and leave both threads alone. Really makes me think.
>>143564469>Really makes me think.Tha osborn fags should kill themselves by all means do so.
>>143564547It doesn't matter how many times you post this page. Nothing fans might do with it will stop it from being kino.
>>143565263I love whenever he posts that page, because it's like>look at this silent character moment that tells so much about Norman's mental state!and he expects us to start screaming and sneeding instead of thinking it's based and yet another reason why Norman is the GOAT (of ignoring his mental health issues, among other things)
>>143565723Peter isn't strong because he can completely disregard her anxiety and exhibit no weakness; rather, he is strong because he battles his own fears and demons in a sympathetic manner and develops as a person by revealing vulnerable moments to others. In combat, if he is afraid, he fights inside himself to overcome that fear and continue fighting. Pete battles valiantly to face his inner fears and convinces himself that he is strong enough, even when he's weak. This conveys significantly more strength and potential as a person to the rea and is infinitely more appealing to them than the character fighting with a perpetual air of grim, stoic badassery and having nothing intriguing to say or reflect on in the process. Because he can overcome vulnerability, Spider-Man is a capable person. In this scene, the green goblin embodies a similar idea. Rather than being a strike against the character, it's intriguing character writing to see the self-assured and narcissistic Norman Osborn susceptible to human weaknesses like grief.
>>143564203The writer of asm blood hunt any good?
>>143548129It seems a bit much to have even the TV calling him “proto goblin”
>>143562194>When was this? What storyline?It was in the 2000s when they killed off MJ. Again, we're talking Byrne/Mackie, not the 90s Mackie run
>>143561951No, we know he's a bastard, but he's OUR bastard, and we enjoy seeing him be a villain for our entertainment. And sometimes pretending to be a hero, or even actually being one occasionally. He's not a good boy who did nothing wrong, he's a complicated man and no-one understands him but the mothers of his children.
>>143566326It alsted 1/2 year to be fair.
>>143566326As bad as that era of Spider-Man was, I think too many people are blaming Mackie for things that came more from Byrne or editorial, his earlier Spider-Man work was never worse than perfectly cromulent Spidey stories.
>>143567719Wasn't Mackie also struggling with cancer at the time? Either way I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and blame Byrne
>>143567719His writing had it's faults that cannot be laid entirely at the feet of Byrne but the cancer makes it easier for me not to outright dislike him as a writer.
Dan Slott is starting to panic.I wonder what'll happen he finds out these companies kill Golden Geese in the hopes of making room for Platinum Ones all the fucking time.>MFW Dario Agger rolls in and demands that Mayday be brought into 616, and kills Dan Slott to make an example.
>>143568261Blaming the cancer patient is pretty hard for me too. The guy was on pain meds. Editorial should have stopped shit instead of encouraged it.
>>143568413>Erm, ASM being shit is actually okay because chartsSlott, lay down the burger
>>143568440It's funny because USM is HIGHER in the charts and that is all the suits up top are supposed to give a fuck about.It doesn't matter if a profit is made when MORE POTENTIAL PROFIT can be reaped! That's the Dario Agger way! That's the DISNEY way!
>>143567784>>143568261>>143568429I'm assuming the guy who posted here about Mackie having cancer back then may have been an actual Marvel insider to have known all that, IIRC he claimed a lot of the books back then that were credited to Mackie were actually ghostwritten by other people, which makes it even harder to blame him for any of it. And things like Sandman becoming a villain again are entirely on Byrne.
>>143568440I don't know why people keep buying. Editorial literally mocks their consumer base's loyalty.
>>143568413Personally, I think ASM's fate has already been sealed by USM's sales. Marvel's higher ups aren't going to be content with it "selling well" when they could be making even more off of it.
>>143569327That's what's got people like Dan so upset. The rubes prefer the better brand, and eventually the money people are going to ask 'hey, what if ASM sells better if we make it more like USM?'And it pisses off people like Dan Slott or CB Cebulski or everyone else from Quesada's old cult off because for all that they pretend they're sober and gray-suited businessmen making the hard choices to ensure profit, the real truth is that they're even worse than the 'toxic fans' they constantly decry and are really willing to sacrifice any amount of money to get to feel superior while promoting their preferred headcanons.They'll probably never forgive USM for doing so well, and they'll probably never forgive the fans for preferring it. Their masks are slipping, which is why Dan Slott went from 'savvy business insider' to 'put upon salaryman' in the span of a single post. No serious corporate ghoul would ever say 'it's doing WELL ENOUGH so it doesn't need to do even better, guys!' but that's seriously Dan Slott's argument with this one.
>>143569428I don't think that they're going to be cancelling ASM. But they're scared shitless that the suits up top will start to ask 'Hey, could we sell more ASM books by undoing One More Day? Let's try that!'
>>143569522Oops. Meant to say OMD's fate.
I'm nowhere near as confident that Marvel will bring back the marriage but undoing the deal with Mephisto would be a nice start.
>>143569729Undoing the deal with Mephisto would bring the marriage back.
>>143569759The powers that be would invent some bs legal Marvel universe loophole to make the marriage no longer legally binding and Peter and MJ would, for whatever reason, decide not to be remarried.
>>143569816There are no powers that be. Slott made up that term so he could pretend that some mystical cosmic force is keeping OMD from being undone. Besides, the deal was the marriage for Aunt May's life. It can't get more clear cut than that.
>>143569816I can totally buy the weasels doing that. They'd sell it as a huge event and get everyone excited then pull a shocking swerve at the last second.
>>143569848The 'powers that be' are the real life uber lords that run Marvel.
>>143569893I don't think any writer is going to be willing to take a hit akin to Tom King screwing up the BatCat wedding to their reputation.
>>143569927Nah. It's a made up term that Slott uses when things don't go his way.
>>143569929It's a big business. They'll find someone. Even if they have to pull some random sycophant off the street.
>>143569947I used it to refer to the big bosses. >In idiomatic English, "the powers that be" (sometimes initialized as TPTB) is a phrase used to refer to those individuals or groups who collectively hold authority over a particular domain.
>>143569967I don't think they will. OMD being undone is the most anticipated story of all time and they know it. If they screw it up then ASM is never going to see those coveted long-term USM-esque sales.
>>143570011You mean like Dan Buckley? From what I have heard he was against OMD and Quesada had to go over his head, to Ike Perlmutter, in order to make it happen.
>>143569848There are, its just breevort.
>>143568413>Meanwhile usm is outselling asm more than 2:1 and gets constant reprints.
>>143568706He had cancer as early as his ghost rider stuff, it inspired most of his writing there iirc.
>>143570071Brevoort no longer has any say in what happens to the Spider-Man books. Why do you think Buckley shipped him to the X-Books? It wasn't because Brevoort is a good salesman who gets results.
>>143570093He still claims credit so i believe him. He's the closest to a power that be that is at marvel now.
>>143562431>Norman just wanted all of those big strong tough manly macho men to want himWhat did the Green Goblin mean by this.
>>143570159Buckley is the only one who matches that description and Brevoort can't go against him. It's as simple as that.
>>143570316He dresses in tight purple...
>>143570316He realized that the true peak is to be respected and desired by the GigaChads who are already there.
>>143570316Typical introvert behavior.
>>143571243Is norman an introvert?
>>143547963Bulp
>>143570316Norman longs to connect with respected peers, yet he won't engage in social interactions or make the effort to build friendships with people in his social group. Norman finds it painful to be by himself, yet he becomes envious when he is with other people. He would much rather avoid emotional pitfalls and try to numb himself than deal with them. Gobby presents a classic example of the hedgehog's dilemma: while Norman craves intimacy and connection, his real fear is vulnerability, and creating those ties and exposing himself to weakness is an agonizing process. Rather than engaging in activities that would actually make him happy, Norman finds himself locked up with his unhelpful coping mechanisms.
>>143571538https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog%27s_dilemma
>>143571374Introvert by choice. Learned to be an extrovert by necessity.
>>143569327>I don't know why people keep buying.Low standards and/or wanting to keep their collection complete regardless of the quality.
no one bothers to post news?
Joy Mercado. Remind me, why did they stop using her
>>143571538There's also the issue of Norman having rebuilt the family fortune after his dad lost it all, which makes him "new money", meaning he's looked down on by a lot of people in the social circle he'd want to be part of.
>>143555058I like Norman being purged of his evilness and then trying so hard to be a good guy. It’s a very good change of pace after years of him being a giant evil bastard doing shit out of sheer spite for Peter.
misty is such a weird character to insert in spider-man franchise
>>143572941IT'S MORBIN' TIME!
end of preview. Only took them 2 years to pick up the lizard's plotline and that only happened cause woman writer needed her self-inserts. Grim
jackpot black cat 4 var
>>143572929Because they stopped using the Bugle cast as a whole
>>143573003>another pointless Gwen coverone day we will be free of her
>>143573015One day all this Spiderverse nonsense will be in the past and gone, and she'll be back in her correct role as the mother of Norman's twins again.
>>143573019We can only be so lucky. Maybe for #1000.
ultimate spider-man 5 var>>143573013I just checked the wiki and she didn't appear in the mackie's run, kinda surprising, not even a brief mention. While BND and pulse killed all the chances of her appearance in the modern era
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>>143572973Gonna sell a morbillon comics.
>>143571538Wow, he's LITERALLY me!Maybe I should go find a cool halloween costume too
>>143572904Because you post news the best, that's all>>143573094I like how this is just a blatantly traced screencap from the Playstation game. The artist didn't even bother to change the shape of the eyes, for crying out loud.
>>143573019The pairing only happened the once because Quesada ships it. I doubt anyone is going to resurrect a plot disliked by everyone except the shizos.
>>143571538>unhelpful coping mechanisms.Norman: sings 'let it go' while carpet bombing an orphanages.
>>143572904That's a good cover
>>143548355Harry's role as the part-time damsel in distress will always be hilarious.
>>143573593When he's caught between the hero and the archenemy, his life was always going to be more dramatic than he'd likw.
>>143573473Some people blow up orphanages... to cope.
>>143573473Antisocial and narcissistic personality disorders are forms of persistent maladaptive personality styles that interfere with a person's functioning. Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a disregard for the rights of others often exemplified by criminal behavior and a lack of remorse. Trauma, parental rejection, neglect and lack of support during childhood can all contribute to developing antisocial and narcissistic traits.
>>143568413>Well's actually Lowe's ASM is a top seller stillYou know what? Spider-fags deserve all the disgraceful shit Marvel throws their way.t. stopped reading ASM after Lowe's confession in the end of SM Beyond
>>143571538*Evangelion score gently playing in distance*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXk7HvYPtzg
>>143571621You can't be introvert by choice. The difference between introvert and extrovert is that the former gets his energy drained by being around people while the later gets energized by it.That means you can be introvert and still be a social butterfly and a center of attention but you'll need to go somewhere quiet and rest afterwards.
>>143573925Sometimes the way people cope is ugly as hell
>>143574216You're right but I'm a simple shitposter and twist facts to make snappy responses.
>>143573998Lowe needs to be fired.
>>143562558Man I feel like every other recognizable villain gets an Origins mini series, but never Norman.I want to see Norman's life from his eyes. I want to see Norman juggling or failing to juggle being a supervillain and a single dad.
>>143570316Norman is the person he becomes to gain acceptance and entrance into the most powerful rungs of society, Goblin is the persona that rejects their judgement, takes their power and soars above them.And he's a high maintenance broad.
>>143572929>>143572931Between Flash and Liz, it does feel like Venom has been taking in Peter's neglected side cast recently.
>>143576108Yep
>>143573998Usm is still beating it and eating its lunch
>>143568413It hardely matters since USM ends after twelve issues since hickman's contract for the series was for that much. Then it will be you spider-fags who panic and you will panic take my word for it, since I happen to know a few things you don't.
>>143576655only untill the end of the year after that it will be gone just like a dream.
>>143575863I want child, teenage, college, etc stories for him too. More likely than not, it'd be bad but I don't care.
>>143576821Oh do shut up will you.
>>143576705>>143576733Hi Slott
>>143576872I am not slott you moron.
>>143576890Sure, Slott. Sure.
>>143576904No really I am not slott honest anon.
>>143576705First you coped by saying "USM won't outsell ASM". Then you coped by saying "it's issue 1, of course issue 1 is going to outsell ASM, but it won't do it again you can be sure of that". Now its "USM will end after 12 issues". I know your face is red and steam is coming out of your ears at this point lmaoo
>>143576733Why would it it's gonna keep busting blocks.
>>143577089What do you care if USM ends after twelve issues or not? even if it does not then that won't change the fact in 616 MJ/Paul are a couple or that OMD has still not been undone. Yeah Peter/MJ are a couple in USM but you just enjoy that while it lasts since either way USM will not be around forever and secondly that's the closest you will get to seeing Peter/MJ as a married couple. You people truly are pathetic you act like a alternative universes means something but in reality they mean shit since none of them really last for long. It will be no different with USM oh yeah sure right now it's a hot book but that means nothing since it won't be around forever idiots like you seem to forget that.
>>143576821That we don't even know Norman's mother's name is disheartening. I can tell you Otto's mother's first and middle name. Marvel, what is the name of Norman's mother?
>>143577406They can't even decide if his poor, violent drunk of a dad is named Amberson or Ambrose. S-M-H desu sempai
>>143577225Because series set in alternative universes simply don't last in marvel that's why. Sure they are fun for a while to keep around if they are selling well but in they are not 616 which is they get inevitably get canceled sooner or later. You can't just replace ASM with USM since USM has been around for half a year while the ASM has been around for 61 years. That simply does not work it's the same thing when it comes X-Men and FF no matter how well USM does that does not change the fact it is not ASM or set in 616 and that's what matters.
>>1435774891610 ultimate lasted for a decade are you high or something nigga
>>143577565Anon 1610 happened twenty years the comic industry has changed a lot since then. Comics don't have that much of a impact as they used to with people. Besides even 1610 ultimate did not last forever.
>>143577406I like to think her name was Martha just because of the Batman vs Superman meme
>>143577344Sure Slott
>>143577729That would be hilarious.
>>143577722Your arguments are pretty retarded. There’s no reason to stop USM while it sells so well, and it’s selling very well.You should be scared about Marvel thinking they can get ASM to sell well by making it more like USM too. Dan Slott certainly is.
>>143577344Ohhh boy you're so angry right now lol. Breathe man, take a breath. Its okay! Wipe the tears that are staining your keyboard right and relax.
>>143577468At least with Ambrose I can pretend it's a nickname for Amberson instead of a mistake. That poor woman carried Norman Osborn in her womb for nine whole months and has nothing to show for it!
>>143578046Slott is losing his mind. The very thought that OMD will be undone by the end of the year is causing him to quake.
>>143578046Are you fucking stupid or just pretending to be? it does not matter how well USM sells what matters is you can't just replace with it ASM since it has been around for the last several decades. Right Now DC and Marvel are in deep shit since most of their books do not sell well. The only thing which keeps marvel aflot is X-Men and this USM if anything X-Men fans have more going for them Spider-Man right now t since X- Men '97 is such a hot show.DC is even in a worse position heck even the batman books are starting underperform as result bat fags are now angrily chewing out DC editoral. Not to mention lots of bat fans are now frowning in disgust at the things going on the batman books bats fags are VERY unhappy right now.
>>143579281
>>143578628lol slott can lose his mind for all I care it hardly matters they still won't undo OMD.
>>143548000It was already retconned that he let the vacuum thing happen.
>>143579332Anon I really don't a shit about how many pictures of gwen stacy's death you post. What was said stands you can't replace USM with ASM since it has been around for the last several decades. That simply does not work now if you want to post more pics of gwen's death then go ahead and do so because quite frankely I really don't give a shit if you do or do not. So go choke on that.
>>143572929Her last appearance was giving an infodump on the first page of Ellis's Moon Knight after a twenty year absence.
>>143579436leave the thread alone dumbass.
>>143578046>. There’s no reason to stop USM while it sells so well, and it’s selling very well.It does not matter series set in the alternative universes do not last in the longer run sooner or later they get cancelled since they are not 616.
>>143571773>Low standards and/or wanting to keep their collection complete regardless of the quality.No they buy them to have all the pretty variant covers in their collection fuxking idiots.
>>143579344OMD will be undone, of that you can be sure.
>>143579626why are you so desperately intent on keeping this thread alive? Hardly anybody cares to participate in them anymore just leave it alone.
>>143579675I'll do whatever I want.
Since we're posting dead gwens now, I'd like to share this one.
>>143579734Oh shit, she got Gobbed in half!
>>143579696enjoy talking to yourself all in that case.
>>143579734>bares her tummy to Normanpoor woman can't help herself
>>143579734>>143579743can't you think of anything to do?
>>143579782Like, post more dead gwens?How many dead gwen OCs were made in these threads specifically, guys? Post them if you have them.
>>143569327speculators had a huge comeback for some reason, so they buy like 50 issues along with varient covers
>>143579890this one's very artsy.
>>143579734You don't mind if i post this do you I know I don't death of 1610 peter parker. And of course USM will no doubt feature the death of Peter/MJ in issue 12 feel free to spam this thread with pics of Gwen's death now
>>143579971Very cool! Who is the author?
>>143580071oh never mind that here is another cool death of peter parker
>>143580071I was trying to find him on twitter (I think I remember seeing him there), but he's not popping up, unfortunately. Maybe someone else will remember, sorry.
No funny remarks regarding peter's death? well fancy that it's easy for you to mock Gwen is it not? but you are not so funny upon seeing peter's death are you. Now I suggest you leave this thread alone othrewise I may just be tempted to post many pic featuring peter parker's death your choice now.
>>143580176so you admit you're gonna start spamming?
>>143580229Have you not done so first by posting pics of gwen stacy's death? last chance anon leave this thread alone if you post more pics of gwen's death then I will post more pics of peter's death in return turnabout is fair play.
>>143580313I'm gonna post hamsters instead :)
>>143576821I think we've seen a bit of his childhood years, but teenhood to Goblinhood would be nice. Between meeting Emily and getting undermined by a class mate in college it sounds like a lot went down.Not to mention his entire relationship with Mendell Stromm, what was that like?
>>143579281>you can't just replace with it ASMYou can rewrite ASM to make it more like USM. >Right Now DC and Marvel are in deep shit since most of their books do not sell well. The only thing which keeps marvel aflot is X-Men and this USMWhich is why they should make ASM more like USM, in order to make it sell more too. See, simple!
>>143580664Put it like that and, man, Norman has a ton of unexplored years in his life.
>>143562255Oh, no wonder, the Clone Saga was when I dropped out of reading comics for a long while.Then I came back and it wasn't long before OMD and I dropped out again until /co/ brought me back.
>>143580920Peter had better not grow that ratty ass beard.
>>143579436Jed seems to like using neglected characters.
dan parent (archie artist)Shouldn't marvel be concerned that Paul and the fact that spider-man is cucked is the common knowledge among everyone now? Nahother slop next week:what if venomhttps://aiptcomics.com/2024/05/10/marvel-preview-what-if-venom-4/mileyhttps://aiptcomics.com/2024/05/10/marvel-preview-miles-morales-spider-man-20-2/carnagehttps://aiptcomics.com/2024/05/10/marvel-preview-carnage-7-2/
Frenz: Burn,Spider, BURN!#Catskillcomics.comAnother un-used cover sketch(for The Amazing SPIDER-MAN Vol.1 #269,1985)becomes a 2015 commission!
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>>143583123They're weirdly proud of Paul for some ungodly reason. Better to be notorious than ignored I guess.
>>143583123Cute art anyways
>>143583163Nice
>>143583864Well, yeah, Nick Lowe clearly supports genocide given how many times he's pulled the Nuremberg Defense out for Paul.
>>143582316The one major blemish in an otherwise cool character.
>>143583123The most based snap there is.
>>143582316Come on why?
>>143585165Indeed
>>143579734kek
Bump
>>143583202Inlike how desperately this guy wants to draw a Miguel comic, and honestly, he should get the chance. Far too many mid to bad artists get their opportunity with him.
>>143583123>Shouldn't marvel be concerned that Paul and the fact that spider-man is cucked is the common knowledge among everyone now? NahI do wonder if at least Wells is slowly realizing how bad this really is. We joke about that one issue that had Paul get cucked by his dialogue seemingly being cut, but since no one is going to confirm otherwise, it would be easy to claim Wells is attempting to pull back from having Paul around so much. Lowe is another issue, he doesn't give a shit. Maybe Paul is his new husbando.
bump
>>143579436Brain Wood used her for a page in his Moon Knight after this
>>143572972well she's one of Marvel's more proinant Black women so they have to keep using her even if they don't have any stories for her otherwise there would be considered racist
>>143558888Great Emily design. I love the freckles and fluffy hair.
>>143587244I like Misty (and Danny) but they really shouldn't try to force her into anything.
>>143587292Pity that misty and danny broke up. It was a good development for them both.
>>143587820>have an interracial couple fans love>don't take advantage of it because "muh Iron Fist racist" when he isn't at allabsurd, honestly
>>143588341Danny is that white guy that doesn't have any white friends.
>>143580159azoinab on xitter alternative art/blogging website can't come soon enough, fuck that shithole
>>143589278thanks, bro. I recall liking one of his posts at some point, but it was buried under a million pics of cats
>>143588341>Me: Dislikes LukeJessica>Me: Likes DannyMisty>Marvel: Guess which one we're letting you keep!It's easier on my wallet but wherever brain trust came up with that decision hasn't got two brain cells to rub together.
>>143580920>Which is why they should make ASM more like USM, in order to make it sell more too. See, simple!That would be a extremely unwise thing to do on marvel's half. If they were to do that fans would come to the conclusion that the ASM is copycatting USM. Hickman would then most likely sue lowe and Buckley down to the very last penny for such a thing. The scandal would then lead to hickman angrly breaking ties with marvel for good and the ASM possibly getting canceled for good.
>>143590318That wouldn't happen. The most logical thing for Marvel to do is undo OMD and make tons of money.
>>143590318This sounds like bullshit that Slott or his sockpuppets would claim
>>143590346You had better hope it doesn't happen otherwise the public may start to view marvel in a very dim light most likely they would be seen as a fraudulent company. As for for OMD yes it would be logical to undo it but the thing is they don't want to undo it. I guess marvel hates making money.
>>143590385I take it you you do know what a copyright infringement lawsuit is right anon? Unless lowe and Buckley are complete idiots and do not wish to receive such a lawsuit from Hickman, then they won't make ASM like USM.
>>143587820well Captain Falcon had to date somebody and couldn't be a white character
>>143590570Hey, you're completely retarded.
>>143590625Enjoy being sued for copycatting by Hickman then make sure you have the money ready.When he is finished with you won't be able to get a job anywhere I hope you like being a beggar.
>>143590727That's the most retarded argument you've made in a while. You're getting way too retarded right now.
>because Marvel has two Spider-Books that sell well they'll make one like the other and then the creators will sue over thatagain i am asking what is wrong with spider-fans
>>143590740Wanna get sued for copycatting? then by all means make ASM like USM and watch what happens I am going to really enjoy seeing you as a a beggar for life lowe.
>>143590775Nothing. It's just one retarded X-Men stan who keeps slithering in to Spider-Man threads.
>>143590790You're just spamming the same argument over and over now. It doesn't make it any less retarded.You're just way too retarded right now, and you need to try to be less retarded.
>>143590775>>because Marvel has two Spider-Books that sell well they'll make one like the other and then the creators will sue over thatunironically I really do think Hickman would sue if they were to do it.
>it's a "Gwenschizo coming up with yet another retarded """rumor""" to spam in the Spider-Man threads" issue
>>143590835I know you really think that.But you only think that because your brain is retarded.
>>143590817Thanks for visting /co/lowe see you soon as a beggar on the streets.
>If one Spider-Man comic is like another Spider-Man comic, it's copyright infringement even though both comics are published by the IP's owner.I think Gwenschizo's retardation is hitting critical mass, and he's in genuine need of help right now.>>143590835That's really only because you're retarded.
>>143590897like just be 10% less retarded
>>143590890>a copyright infringement lawsuitTrying to ingore copycatting are we? boy you are dumb.
>>143590927We know it's you lowe soon you will be a beggar.
>>143590931>Marvel will sue itself for plagiarizing itself!!!Ok. Haha. Wow.I'm just going to start retyping your posts with a funny lisp again, that's less retarded than whatever you've got going on right now.
>>143590944We know ith you wowe thoon you wiw be a beggawIt's really kind of tricky to accurately copy Gwenschizo's posts because his grammar is so bad. I don't think the jannies appreciate the amount of effort that goes into this.
>>143590908>I think Gwenschizo's retardation is hitting critical mass, and he's in genuine need of help right now.Ready you wallet dude I hope like you being sued for copycatting.
>>143590977Weady you wawweth dude I hope wike you bein sued fow copycatthing.Are you going to sue me for copying your posts btw
>>143590949>>Marvel will sue itself for plagiarizing itself!!!People have been know to do a number of stupid things you don't watch the news much do you?
>>143591007Peepow haw been know to do a numba of thtupid thingth you don'th wath the newth muth do you?
>>143590969>WoweLiterally ten times more amusing than Gwenschizo's actual posts.
>>143590992>Are you going to sue me for copying your posts btwNo I will wait for you to begin spamming this thread and well we all know what happens next don't we.
>>143591035you are not however.
>>143591038>thpammingHeehee
>>143591022This is becoming spam retard.
>>143591052Do NOT spam the thread moron.
>>143590875Fucking idiot.
>>143591051>Gwenschizo>Unfunny, tedious>Has no new gimmicks>Literally just resorts to retyping the same post over and over in order to get the thread to a bump limit>Coddled by the jannies, cowardly>Has a small dick, literally a pedophile.>>143590969>Gwenschizoschizo>Extremely amusing, referencing great films like the Princess Bride and Life of Brian>Reposts Gwenschizo's spam with a funny lisp in extremely ironic metacommentary>Gives us funny words like GWEEM GWOBWIM>Despised by the jannies for his cleverness and wit>Like Batman, he's hunted, but he can take it.
>>143591068>THITH ITH BECOMING THPAM>WETAAAAWED!>>143591087>>143591108Losing it, heehee
>>143590908>That's really only because you're retarded.I think you should consider lucky that we have never meet face-to face in real life. If we did you would quickly discover to your great displeasure that I am not person to fuck with.
>>143591141and this is on the other hand is spam.
>>143591156I think you thould conthidew WUCKY thath we haw newew meet FATH-THO FATH in WEAW WIFE.If we did you wouwd QUICKWEE DITHCOVOW to yo GWEAT DISPWETHOW that I am not pewthon to fuck with!
>>143591117>GWEEM GWOBWIMI'm just imagining a universe where Peter had a lisp and whenever he fights Norman, the latter has to take a moment at the start to get his giggles out because of the way Peter says his villain name (he naturally fights him like normal since it's still Spider-Man)
>>143591193>QUICKWEEI chortled.
>>143591193>>143591213Stop spamming the thread moron.
>>143591193>wucky>quickweeMan, no wonder the Jannies hate this, it's actually kind of funny sometimes.
>>143591242it's still spam however.
>>143591254Yeah, your posts are too. But imagining them read out loud by Peter Cook is great.>HOWEBBAWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bY0fdgpISc
>>143591208Peter knows exactly what he's doing. He just pretends he doesn't because it's funnier.That's tactics.
>>143591289>Yeah, your posts are too. But imagining them read out loud by Peter Cook is great.are you a fucking idiot cut the spam.
>>143591304I'm not the one doing it. But it's cool how it makes you mad while also making your actual posts shorter and way more brief.By all means post something more detailed. Preferably a post were you say you wish to be taken *seriously* or feel that posting on /co/ is not a right but a *privilege* therefore it's wrong to spam. I'd be extremely greatful if you used those words specifically or just typed out 'he sells seashells by the seashore' or something.
>>143591304Copying what your enemies say with a funny lisp to mock them is absolutely a very Spider-Man move.>>143591208Norman has to somehow counter with an even funnier lisp of his own.
>>143548182>i didnt take on a new persona when i became Spider-Man>i just acted less awkward and cooler than when i wasnt Spider-ManLmao who writes this shit
>>143591447>Norman has to somehow counter with an even funnier lisp of his own.Ben Reilly and Kaine in the background wondering what the fuck is going on.What I'm saying is that it's a shame we never got a Parker Triplets book, and it'd be fresher than Zeb Wells retreading things like "Peter screwed up a date because he was busy being a superhero" for the millionth time like in the FCBD issue.Maybe if we're good, Hickman will give us a Clone Saga arc. Or maybe a better Superior Spider-Man arc given 6160 Ock's already terrifying resemblance to Ditko era Peter Parker.
>>143591650It honestly feels very deliberate.
>>143591632It's nothing new, and it's been around for ages. Kraven's Last Hunt practically revolved around the idea.
>>143591687>>143591650I honestly would like an arc where Octavius doesn't hijack 6160 Peter's body, but does finagle a way to give himself Spider Powers while copying the costume.
>>143591741I don't think Hickman is going to do his own take on Superior, supposedly he wasn't very happy with Slott when he did that because it meant not being able to write Peter during his Avengers run.
>>143590875Jannies take note, lisp-posting works. Trust the system.>>143591715Tbh Peter doesn't change into some other guy when he puts the mask on. He just looses his inhibitions and talks and acts much more freely.
>>143591980There have been little dicks at mainline 616 here and there. It honestly sounds like Hickman's biggest issue wasn't the fact that Ock became Spider-Man, so much as Ock hijacked Peter to do it.Letting not-Ditko-Peter Ock be Spider-Man *at the same time* as Peter will sidestep the thing people most disliked about the original Superior run.
>>143592025I still want my 616 Ock as asshole Spider-Hero book
>>143592034He's got so many clones already, Ock should just bully Jackal into making him one.
>>143561873Disclaimer: I neither like nor ship the Norman and Gwen couple. Clones still matter and I like them.
>>143592034It's why I think Ock's resemblance to Ditko Peter is so deliberate.Hell, the Ditko era really was Peter at his most flawed and petty too, and it was really great. Everyone was an asshole during that era, so it made Peter lashing back at them feel entirely reasonable and understandable.
>>143591289You are the idiot who began the spam with posting pics of gwen's death not me.
>>143591372>I'm not the one doing it. But it's cool how it makes you mad while also making your actual posts shorter and way more brief.The only thing this does is kills the thread fast you idiot.
>>143592407We can always make another thread, uh DUH.
>>143592378No, not me. But lots and lots of people here hate you. The people in the X-Men threads also hate you.>>143592407>THE OWNWEE THINGTeehee
>>143592059>Clones still matter and I like them.no they don't heck just look at how Ben Reilly turned out he became a fucking villain for crying out load.
>>143592059Hell yeah, Clones rule!
>>143592441>We can always make another thread, uh DUH.What good would it do nobody wants to particapate in them and there is nothing to discuss. Heck these days there is far more discussion in X-Men threads lol
>>143592458>BED WEIWWY>WIWWINOh my god.
>>143592497Only a idiot would supoort a character like ben reilly given that he became chasm later you apparentely one of them.
>>143592512They mostly seem to be talking about Tom Brevoort and Krakoa over and over.
>>143592518Ben Reilly being a fucking villain is a fact deal with it anon,
>>143592541I love Bed Weiwwy AND Cathum
>>143592546X Men '97 was widely discussed thought no wonder really given how good of a show it is.
>>143592541Quiet retard, the only idiot on this board is you.
>>143592557No you love your butt.
>>143592554>Bed Weiwwy being a fucking wiwwin ith a fagth deaw with ith anon,Nah, it was all Madelyne Pryor's fault anyways.>>143592575Yeah, I can't wait for Spider-Man '98.
>>143592581You enjoy shitty clones like this then?
>>143592608>Pryor molests Nate Grey>Pryor molests Ben ReillyThere's a reason Cable never talks to her.
>>143592608>Yeah, I can't wait for Spider-Man '98.lol it's not being made.
>>143592575You know who wouldn't cheat on his hot redheaded wife with a hot redheaded clone? That's right, Peter Parker!What's YOUR excuse, Cyclops!?!?AND YOU KNOW WHO, upon finding out she had a clone, would use it as an excuse for a threesome rather than angst about who he likes better? That's right, MJ Watson!What's YOUR excuse, Jean Grey!?!?
>>143592635It totally is.
>>143592635They're absolutely trying to make it a prequel for a larger animated universe.
>>143592608>Nah, it was all Madelyne Pryor's fault anyways.Ben's actions are his owns he could have said no Madelyne he could tried to find a different way to get his memories back, he has nobody but himself to blame for what he did.
>>143592678>MAWDEWYDYOU GUYS I TRICKED GWENSCHIZO INTO SAYING MADELYNE.
>>143592638YOU KNOW WHO would never try to have sex with their double's kid? That's right, Ben Reilly!What's YOUR excuse, Madelyne!?!?
>>143592707Based but it would have been even better if he said the full name, giving us Mawdewyd Pwyow
>>143592638expect Cyclops didn't really cheat on Jean he and maddie shared a Psionic Link they did not have sex. Peter Parker on the other hand internationally sold his marraiage to mephisto despite knowing he could have rejected the deal. What's YOUR excuse, Peter.!?!?
>>143592640No it is not lol.
Behold, an OC
>>143592754Oh do fuck off right now X-Men are way better then spider-man they really are
>>143592780don't care retard
>>143592762>CYCWOPTH>THIODITH>THECTH>INTWENATHOWY>MEPHITTHO>WEJECTEDand of course>MAWWIAGEThat was truly a great post, Gwenschizo. Someone who is good at Peter Cook impressions please voice his posts and record them we are sitting on a GOLDMINE.
>>143592780We're never getting rid of Gwenschizo, so we might as well take what we can get out of him.
>>143592836Trans life expectancy disagrees with you, hehehe
>>143592762No answer to this question? I am not suprised really you see scott's, jean and maddie actions can be excused since they were manipulated by sinster. Peter actions on the hand cannot since he did have a choice in his matter.
>>143592059Thanks anon, really cute pic>>143592780Holy based
>>143592816nice try retard.
>>143592896>Thanks anon, really cute picpiss off.
>>143592638>AND YOU KNOW WHO, upon finding out she had a clone, would use it as an excuse for a threesome rather than angst about who he likes better? That's right, MJ Watson!no she would not lol.
I FUCKING LOVEBED WIDEWEE
>>143593122just fuck off will you.
>>143593122I don't and I don't care for shitty clones.
>>143592877>since they were manipulated by sinsterIt's pronounced THINTHEW thank you very much. MITHEW THINTHEW.
>>143593134>>143593147>Exactly sixty seconds apartHe's now getting so mad that he has to respond to the same post twice. Sad!
>>143593164very funny not.
>>143593149You didn't answer the question dumbass
Running out of things to post are oh what a shame.
Yes nothing to post left by the looks of things poor spider fags.
>>143593203Sorry, I was thinking about Peter's other great clone, CAVE PAWKO
>>143593149Desu Sinister being the one responsible for Clone Saga in Spider-Man '98 would be really good and have good crossover potential, especially since there's no Gwen or Jackal in that continuity.
>>143593149If I were I would be more worried about this. You do realize of course thst there is a high possiablity possibility that mysterio could have fucked MJ while she was place under hypnosis. He could have made himself appear as peter to MJ without her knowing the difference. now imagine the shock and horror of fans if they made that canon.
>>143593315That still doesn't answer the question.
>>143593334Miles Warren literally was the one who made clones of Hydroman and hydroMJ there. And Ben Reilly in Spider-Carnage's dimension. He exists, just isn't a furry.
>>143593334You didn' watch the orginal series did you they did clone MJ you know.
>>143593363I wonder if warren fucked the hydroMJ when he cloned MJ I bet he did.
>>143593384It’s been years, so sue me.>>143593315PEETHOW PAWKOCAVE PAWKOBED WIDEWEE.The Thpido Bwothow!
>>143593411Sick. Does Sinister also molest all his creations?
>>143593363It was always weird to me that Warren, a college professor, is on par with people like Sinister and the High Evolutionary.
rescue spider-who? Marvel is truly dead
>>143579734its funny because it was Spider-Man's shitty webs that killed Gwen
>>143593896Hush Warren. It’s time for your meds.
>>143593861Just some Spider-Verse Dan Slott garbage.
>>143593363I think what happened was that while I remembered hydro-MJ as a kid, I didn’t remember random McScientist was Warren because I didn’t know about Clone Saga the first time around.
ultimate spider-man 5 var
reign 2 1 var
>>143594132Cute but sad>>143594119Homage to 1610 issue 2 but I never really liked the plain black prototype suit. Could use more white like the original Black Suit.
steven butler. homage to that scarlet spider pose
Alas, Ben Reilly- what is this strange path they’ve put you on? I’ve drawn hundreds of Ben Reilly as Scarlet Spider commissions, and even Ben Reilly as Spider-Man, but this right here is the first commission I’ve ever done of Ben Reilly as the new villain Chasm. The thing is, I actually really enjoyed doing it, even though I’m not completely sold on the idea of Ben as a villainous bad guy- maybe Marvel is playing the long game with him and will give him a redemption arc in the future- and then again—- maybe not. Anyway, here’s my version of Chasm-
>>143594185Tbh I’m fine with BED WIDEWEE keeping Chasm, just being a good guy.His think could be dealing with supernatural fuckery now. His atonement for his brief villain phase is having to tard-wrangle Rek-Rap now and then.
>>143594214nooooo get him out of that ugly thing and give him his bike back
>>143594440He could get Ghost Rider’s bike and fight demons from hell!
The funniest part of lisp-posting at the schizo, aside from the fact that it made him angry enough to leave, is that his mastery of English is so sub-par that he can’t even do it back it back to people no matter how much it annoys him.
>>143594453Ghost Rider Spider-man? Where did I hear this one before?>>143594493You're the hero we need but don't deserve, gwenschizoschizo.
>>143590800He doesn't even like X-Men that much. He shitposts and trolls in their threads as well. Nobody on this board likes him, which I presume is just the way he wants it
>>143594185It's a cool costume. A bit on the edgy side for Ben, but still cool.The name Chasm is dogshit though
>>143587820>Pity that misty and danny broke up.Again? What's wrong with Marvel?
>>143592059>Disclaimer: I neither like nor ship the Norman and Gwen couple.>YetGive us time, we'll make you one of us.Thanks for the new art of their true and honest biological children.
>>143592458>for crying out load.You're the only load here Gwenschizo.
>>143595509Gwen is for Harry actually
>>14359278011/10 classic, I'm losing it here.
>>143596105So you've finally accepted that she's meant to be with an Osborn?
>>143594766Yeah, he's loathed pretty much everywhere.
Gwenflash represented.
>>143592780Doing God's work
>>143592780kek
>>143593122I'd be with Kaine. I refuse to high five any man congratulating me on the ownership of any hogs on principle.
>>143598845Cringe
>>143594132>reign 2
>>143597481he looks either happy, or too tired too care
>>143592780Ridiculously based The troll is absolutely BTFO by this one simple meme
>>143598845I'd suspect they were gay desu.
I really don't get what's impressive or funny about babytalk.
>>143601824I don't either. No doubt there's some samefagging going but being perpetually online rots your brain.
>>143592780>>143602032>>143601824isn't he that ultimate shill? Not even one of original goblin posters
>>143602161I don't mind ultimate shills. It's got its flaws but not a bad book either.
>>143596105Gwen is for HarryLiz is for HarryLilly is for HarryPeter is for Harry when he's feeling fruityHarry is a harem protagonist, actually.
>>143601824It drove off Gwenschizo and that’s enough for me.
>>143602386That does explain why he keeps getting kidnapped...
>>143602412The troll probably just got bored desu. Everyone knows he's fake.
>>143602440>he got boredHe’s had years to “get bored,” by now it’s clear he has no life outside of this. He genuinely doesn’t like being picked on or messed with because he’s not just lame, he’s also a surprisingly arrogant and with a bloated ego.
>>143602440He’s going to be here either way but if other anons annoy him or wind him up a little, we can at least say that some people here benefit from the schizo’s presence for once and get to have a bit more fun.It’s not like the Jannies will do fuck all about him.
create the next thread before schizo has a chance to
>Realization: I know more about Gwens mom than Normans mom.That's kinda funny
>>143603391I think the only thing we really know is that she got smacked around. And that's really it, isn't it?
