Does anyone have any scans from vol 1-4 of this zine? (Or other obscure lolita zines in general?)
>>10892324Went to their instagram page and her tits are literally spilling out of that dress. No thanks
Two volumes of Sucre, an obscure Japanese zine from the early 2000s:https://imgur.io/a/3t3pt
>>10892356thank you anon, this is exactly the type of content i was looking for!!!! you are incredible.
>>10892356wow thank you anon it's beautiful
>>10892336Are you drunk anon ? >>10892324Vol.1 is free and online : https://issuu.com/dentellesdepapier/docs/dentelles_de_papier_001
>>10892585are you blind? no one wants to see butt crack length cleavage in lolita.https://www.instagram.com/p/CHA4GF_qmco/?hl=en
>>10892365>>10892434You're welcome! I've been sitting on this link for a while, no idea who uploaded it initially but huge props to themHere's Heavenly Creatures, an old school style digital zine:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cd9U2ELLHtHA06eQEU4M6RYn1ePfexAQ
>>10892597speak for yourself, you giant prude
>>10892657Excessive cleavage has always been ita. Get a dress that fits or cry about it retard.
>>10892597Are you another 12 yo karper who piss themselves at the bra section in walmart ?big ass prude
>>10892597If you think this is butt crack length, you're more telling on yourself than anything, tiny ass.
>>10892692Try replying in english next time retard>>10892693Cope full shirring warrior
>>10892731OK Hank Hill.
>>10892740OK lard tits. Maybe you'll get over it after your second lunch
>>10892741>everyone that replies to me must be fat!!
Stop shitting up the thread. Internet shit slinging isnt contributing anything of worth.
>>10892748i bet u r fat and ugly w smelly feet
I feel like there should be a more literal “lolibrary”. Like a site that just archives zones, GLB, interviews etc.
>>10892751this pretty much already exists at lolita historyhttps://www.lolitahistory.com/
>>10892755no, that site is shit. it's basically a cringe blog.
>>10892755This site is really limited in what it actually archives, I agree with >>10892751 . I don't have any clue how to make a website but Id love something like this. Would we want to make a google doc, maybe? Or a spreadsheet, with archived links & mirrors?
>>10892817sounds like you’re too retarded to navigate the website properly
does anyone have moonbow/gekko? There was a thread earlier but that only had the street snaps.
>>10892858>This site is really limited in what it actually archivesYou do know that they just host user submitted scans, right? If you want lolitahistory to have more content, scan whatever you have that isn't on there and submit it yourself
>>10892886i dont have any scans or lolita fashion zines myself yet. i only just found out about zines earlier this year, so ive missed most of them unfortunately
>>10892888>Wants to complain about the FREE resource other more experienced people have contributed over years of efforts >literally has nothing to contribute themselves Charming.
Sous l'Ombrelle - A french zine published sept 25, 2023. As of right now, there's no english translation.https://issuu.com/snow_priestess/docs/summerzine_fr_final_solopages
>>10892859>>10892904free projects should be done with MORE passion by the people who do them, otherwise it's just lazy and asking for attention. look at how lolibrary is. and it was done for free. if anon had anything to contribute she wouldn't need the site anyway. plus 99% of jmags were hosted illegally online for years on chinese sites without anyone archiving the double watermarked scans. blame them.
>>10892926>free projects should be done with MORE passion by the people who do them, otherwise it's just lazy and asking for attention. you have actual brain worms. free projects don’t owe you shit, you should expect more from a paid option if anything. the website compiles scans all in one place and isn’t looking for “attention” >look at how lolibrary is. and it was done for freeyou mean also free, incomplete and not perfect, but good enough given it’s ran by community contributions… consisting of the same people who run the website you’re complaining about? so the exact same thing? Again, what have you contributed to the community aside from being a spoiled brat and expecting everything to be spoonfed to you? make the changes you want to see through your own resource or get over yourself.
>>10892926if you're too entitled to use the free resource older lolitas worked hard to provide for you you're welcome to buy the magazines yourself like an adult
>>10892971Anon the girl who ran lolibrary died. I think anon's point is less entitlement and more that a project for a niche community is by and for the community so it should be more robust based on the presumed passion of the contributors. Look at fandom wikis and such, they're full of information and resources because contributors obsessions with the subject. Also attributing any criticism to entitlement is stupid at best, especially since anyone contributing materials illegally is entitled themselves.
>>10892991>Anon the girl who ran lolibrary died. which is why it's currently running on contributions made by volunteers and has been for years now. bringing up how it used to be literally makes no difference to what i said.>attributing any criticism to entitlement is stupid at bestcalling resources "shit" when you can easily contribute to them, link a better one, or make a better one yourself isn't "criticism" the original posts of the anon you're defending>no, that site is shit. it's basically a cringe blog.>free projects should be done with MORE passion by the people who do themthis is entitlement and bitching with no action being taken. learn what criticism is.
>>10892926Literally no one who runs or contributes on either of those sites has ever gone looking for attention. They have gained literally nothing for building and Maintaining the single most referenced site in lolita fashion. Lolibrary is even referenced in Japanese and Chinese second hand sales. I hope you’re not in a comm jeez you sound awful.
>>10892924the art in this is really nice. some of the coordinates are iffy. is there another volume?
>>10892993I'm not that anon and pointed that out in my post. I'm not defending her either I just think you're too invested in what is all illegal activity anyway.
>>10893118>illegal activityLol, lmao even
>>10893118>I'm not that anon and pointed that out in my post. >the anon you're defendingare you retarded or something?
>>10893118Honey. Do not go to meets until you grow up. You will eviscerate your reputation dear lord are you dumb.
>>10893121>she thinks scanning magazines is legalok
>>10892993are you the same bitch who shat up the aesthetic furniture thread whining about entitlement. >>10892888 lamenting the lack of submissions isn't being entitled. she's not demanding more, she's sad she can't access the things she's missed out on. none of her posts seem entitled at all.
>>10893127>she thinks scanning rare magazines that have been out of print and unavailable for purchase for over a decade to share with a small community of enthusiasts is immoralok
not the anon anyone is replying to, bur lolibrary's creator passed away? thats so sad. is that why i see a lot of the posts made by the same person?
>>10893133I thought it was the other database that was created was the owner that died. As it stopped updating and it tools years before the site was closed down fully. I really liked that ones layout. So what happen to that owner of lolita wardrobe I think it was call?
>>10893130there’s more than one person on the internet retard. multiple people ITT called her out for a reason. cry about it.
Less arguing, more zines!Parfait, only 5 volumes of which were released between 1999-2003:https://web.archive.org/web/20050828194406/http://home.att.ne.jp/blue/DGT-Follower/Parfait.html
>>10892877You can still buy it from the source, uploading the full thing would be extremely rude when it's still in print...
>>10893173the anon that >>10893130 quoted.I dont have an issue with the lolita history site, i just felt like there wasnt a lot on it based on whats floating around out there. i didnt know it was now community submission based, and i didnt know that the original ownder had died. this was my only response, im not the other entitled anon shitting up the thread.
>>10893241it isnt in print in english anymore / isnt available in english at the moment.
>>10893249https://bikeidaisuki.booth.pm/items/5051332You can message her in DMs and buy it.
>>10893174Can you read those? I could only see the titles and the "sold out" sign
>>10893386Unfortunately no, but you get a glimpse of the contents in one of the CD-ROM previews
>>10892324JBTK - English lolita zine available on Ko-Fi. The first volume is free, but you can get all 4 for $5https://ko-fi.com/s/b1fe66cf1e
What do you gulls like to see in lolita zines / what do you appreciate? What do you not like seeing?
>>10894236I don't like the relatable content that Western zines focus on. I prefer the idealized, aspirational content from Asian zines. I like it when zines have a few core staff (writers, artists, photographers, designers, etc) and occasionally feature guests, rather than totally submission-based content. The latter is too chaotic. I really love event reports. I would prefer it in a website, blog format that accompanies the website with a short feature in the zine. I appreciate an active social media presence.My dream lolita zine is a mix of Nylon x GLB x Moonbow. Highly stylized, specific content with an DIY vibe. It would be nice if they lasted longer than a year.
>>10894244>I would prefer it in a website, blog format that accompanies the websiteWaste of dubs. I meant I would prefer an article in blog format thats hosted on a website with a short feature in the zine. But that's assuming the zine is in print and not just a webzine, PDF format to begin with.
>>10894236Agreeing with the first two points of >>10894244Other than that, I don't like seeing those ugly western animation kind of art styles
>>10892356>it's been 20 years and only the intro is translatedbottom kek
>>10894244Nayrt but I don't like lolita magazines to have "everyone can be lolita" content. I mean the type of content where they get a size 20 person and put her in a DollBe dress, do a piss poor job at styling it, and then act like some sort of great transformation has taken place. Same thing when they get an obvious sissy (complete with beard stubble and manly man chin) and do the same things to him. I don't want to see any "get ready with me " type content, I don't want to see what people's routines are.I want to see the finished thing, all polished to perfection (even if it's actually frumpy old school). Gorgeous photoshoots that remind you of old fairytale illustrations, I want to read interviews (of people who are really good at something we care about), also event reports, a list of upcoming large events worldwide, upcoming (indie) brand collections, actually good art, I'll even put up with poetry. DIY content is a must.
>>10894313Hard agree with everything
Western zines will never, ever, be good, because they are all written by political retards who fill them with nigger and tranny bullshit and little to no actual fashion content. /thread
>>10894371Post eastern zines then
>>10892612ugh i hate how they used that film name
>>10892817>>10892926it's got hundreds of old magazines scanned, it's a great resource whether you acknowledge it or not. Many of these magazines would be lost media within another few years without lolitahistory. You're willing to do nothing, you contribute nothing. When you leave no one will miss you. >>10893247oh, you're a literal child
Back with another defunct Japanese zine! This time it's a 4 volume project named MARIA, Project Maria or beatae Mariae Virginis, which targeted beginners in the fashion, as well as those dissatisfied with commercial magazines. Each volume of the zine had its own theme - Christmas, Alice in Wonderland, sweets and "a prayer" respectively. A fifth volume was planned, but didn't end up getting released. The zines consisted of original content produced by the staff, as well as content created in collaboration with organizations, events and artists - photoshoots, artworks, writings, event reports, various location reviews and introductions. The staff frequently participated in EGL events, such as Alamode Night and Alamode Market, selling the zines themselves, as well as unpublished photographs and physical copies of artworks featured in them. The project was active between 2002 and 2006, after which I couldn't find any recorded activity.
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>>10894313>>10894292>>10894244So who’s going to start a new zine based on this feedback? My two cents is that I would love a zine targeting gothic lolita’s who are also involved in goth culture.
>>10895863No one. Starting a zine is a lot of fucking work, a decent investment even just for a digital one, be an absolutely thankless effort. Everybody that’s ever tried has been criticized and torn apart before they even have the chance to learn or improve their skills, and there’s no real incentive to make one, so I doubt anyone would try.
Dekopon has some lolita street snaps, does anyone have the scans to those?
Has this been scanned or preserved anywhere? All of the copies are $90+ which is insane
>>10905060this looks fucking terrible, anon.
>>10905062its actually very cute, but if you knew anything about how cmyk printing works in the first place you'd understand that the color isnt as garish in person. Anyways, does anyone have a scan?
>>10905062It's a good book
>>10905072lmao i meant the content, it looks cringe af. how embarrassing for you.
>>10905060there are no scans currently. lolita history won't host it
I don't understand the popularity of zines. I used to think they were cool until I realized they're all written by bottom barrel retards. There's a store near me with "indie zines" and every single one is terrible and written by some talentless gender blob. People are really out there collecting pamphlets that are worse than the average middle schoolers notebook scribbles.
>>10905149i didnt know it was possible for a take to be ita, but here we are. please go take a shower, its been weeks.
>>10905174That's precisely the point. Zines are supposed to be accessible enough that anyone can make one about anything they want. Publishers won't buy stories and art about niche subcultures because it isn't worth it to them. Of course, that means a lot of them won't appeal to most people or will be straight-up bad, but the same goes for any art form with similar low barriers to entry like YouTube videos and fanfiction.
>>10905174i like seeing people make content for things that i enjoy & there can be a lot of creativity put into them
>>10905174Before internet they were a big deal, alt subcultures got their info from zines. I get you, I wish we have more quality zines but we don't even blog anymore.
>>10905175Just take the L and go. No one has a scan of your mediocre zine. Ugly quilt, bad taste.
>>10905176NTA but no, they shouldn't be really low quality, they're supposed to be passion projects. Low budget is different than low effort and low effort tends to be ita. I feel like it's one of those things where the people who chose to attempt it are the exact people who shouldn't. They don't have to be amazing or anything, but many I've seen especially in the western comm are narcissistic circle jerks. They tend to act like very personal opinions or experiences are universal and treat them like fact which is weird. >>10905060>>10905072This isn't really a zine and the page looks cringe in the personal ways I was talking about. Whoever drew that is really freakish. Also it appears to be written by 2 people.
>>10905239sorry let me just make an entirely new thread next time to look for a specific book instead of posting it in the already existing book-adjacent thread. youre so right. theres more to the book. it was a collaborative effort. There are multiple different comics, testimonials, etc. I want to read it first to form an opinion on it.
bumping this thread before it dies. would posting cgl-adjacent zines like idol zines be okay?
