>> How do I deal with dating in my 30s?

Don't. You missed your window for anyone worth spending any time with. Just stay single.

>>31098392
Or just fuck sluts if you have money.

>>31098370
If nobody is good enough for you then be alone. Just never date anybody and, most importantly, stop whining about it online.

>>31098370
You are leftovers too bud. You don't have to pick anyone you can always stay alone if that's more enjoyable than the options you're being offered.

>>31098401
This entire forum is for whining. I think you took a wrong turn somewhere near Albuquerque.

I'm waiting till my 40's-50's to find a girl who's husband died and kids are older and moved out.

Who am I kidding, they won't want my worthless autistic ass either.

>>31098408
>You are leftovers too bud.

Not true. Men's qualities are their masculinity and a life of their own. Women's qualities are their looks and youth. Both sexes use both to their advantage, and men just have a longer shelf life.

>>31098428
Excellent demonstration of why you are leftovers thank you for your cooperation.

>>31098370
are you a man or woman?
Either way just date younger.
30s is perfect time to date younger.

>>31098370
Look outside the USA.

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>>31098439
Femanon ;p

>>31098392
You can't stay single, it causes severe health problems (both physical and mental).

>>31098418
>I'm waiting till my 40's-50's to find a girl who's husband died and kids are older and moved out.
Oh I see, you're talking about "age appropriate" women. Fuck that.

>>31098370
Date younger. Duh.

>>31098448
Jew.

>>31098461
Younger women aren't usually interested in older guys.

>>31098446
Uhhhh you should be my gf then I'm 22

>>31098472
You’ve fallen for the feminist propaganda.

>>31098472
god how fucking delusional... such bullshit could only be spewed by a teenage boy who doesn't know better, or a woman.
one of the two for sure.

>>31098370
>All the leftovers are fat as fuck or insane.
or single mothers.
You look abroad.
To be fair, fat can be fixed, but you have to be able to control their diet.

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>>31098463
>working together to get through life is a Jewish conspiracy
>having pleasant company is a Jewish conspiracy
>enjoying life is a Jewish conspiracy

>>31098472
As an older guy you are hilariously wrong. But that's OK, means more for me.

>>31098370
Talk to women at bars its literally so easy.

>>31098370
That's probably what they think about you too

35 here OP and I'm on the same boat and I don't know what to do.

>>31098399
Seeing sluts/escorts is not fulfilling, it's just using a body to masturbate with.

>>31098418
>Who am I kidding, they won't want my worthless autistic ass either.

I know that feel bro (officially have been diagnosed with mild autism here).

>>31098586
How do you meet them?

OP is a woman, retards

>>31098370
keep looking. I'm 35+ and am alone. I occasionally use dating apps. I'm a man, though, and not american, so...

>>31098586
t. millennial incel

>>31099209
>OP is a woman, retards
>getting baited this easily

lower your standards, I don't feel bad for guys that demand some girl that doesn't exist except in porno pics

>>31098370
currently struggling with the same thing. Desperately tried to get my ex back since she was 31, but thin and cute, no dice. I turn 30 in 4 months. I'm a bit skinnyfat, feels like I missed the boat on dating unfortunately. not sure what hope is left for me but I could use a bit of hopium

>>31099253
if he was a man, he'd have mentioned single moms.

>>31098428
your sperm is deteriorating by the year, soon you will only be able to impregnate a woman with a retard

>>31098408
It's impossible to stay alone because single people die earlier. You can't live an optimal life single.

>>31099584
I feel like if you supplement enough with friends and family and get enough physical touch from others you'd be okay. I might be speaking from a bit of a privileged position because I have 3 siblings though.

>>31099657
Friends and family are completely different from romantic relationships, and family doesn't even count in the first place

>>31099659
Yeah they're different but I don't buy that people who don't have romantic relationships are doomed to be miserable.

>>31099664
Romantic relationships come with sex, which is also good for health

>>31099995
You don't HAVE to have romantic relationships to have sex and you don't have to have sex.

You can cohabitate with a person that annoys you for the rest of your life if you so choose but I feel like that stress would be way worse for me than not having sex.

>>31098370
34 year old here.

Haven't had a gf since I was 20 nor had a social life or friends since I was like 23.

What I've realised is that if a girl is close to 30 or older and not at least in a long term relationship, she is probably crazy or has some other issues. Remember guys will fuck anything so the hotter she is despite being older. The more crazy she most likely would be

>>31100055
>You don't HAVE to have romantic relationships to have sex

Where the fuck else are you going to get it from

>you don't have to have sex.

Yes you do, it's one of the requirements for the body to function optimally. An active and good sex life is a necessity for optimal health

35 here. Fuck younger women. Duh. Most girls date guys older than them. I'm like a 6 on a good day, and the last girl I dated was 27.

>>31100111
>Where the fuck else are you going to get it from
Anon....
>An active and good sex life is a necessity for optimal health
Sex isn't the only way to get exercise and release endorphins weirdo

>>31100133
Exercise doesn't release endorphins for me at all, it just makes me exhausted and causes me pain

>>31100143
You can do those things separately dude.

Also you're not doing it enough if that's the case.

I fucking hate how delusional this fucking website is sometimes. Guys in their 30s are dating. In fact, there are a lot of women in their late 20s who will be into you. This shit's delusional, go out and meet people and stop rationalizing while you'll be foreveralone, you fucking loser.

Cheat code: go to a country where they like white Americans. I'm not even talking about exploiting some third world girl who'll use you for a Visa. Go to a nice country, like Japan or the rich to middle class part of India, and girls will find you interesting almost automatically. It's easy mode in those places.

A lot of people are single in their 30s.Things aren't harder for you now. Were you some amazing dating guru in your 20s, and now you aren't anymore? Of course not. You were a loser then and you're rationalizing that you just missed your opportunity, and that's retarded. The problem is you never changed. You didn't learn to date in your 20s, so you need to learn to date now. There are still hot girls who will date you. I know, it isn't like being 21, when most girls were cute. But there are plenty of girls a couple years younger than you who are plenty hot and will date you.

>>31100129
So how do you meet them though..

You think that's bad, try being rural money

>>31100171
There's no fucking point if what you get will be inferior to what you could have had.

>go out and meet people

I already do. The issue is that I was never able to find anyone.

>>31100171
>The problem is you never changed. You didn't learn to date in your 20s, so you need to learn to date now.
Truth.
It's a different question though if particular individual is capable of doing that.

>>31100246
>There's no fucking point if what you get will be inferior to what you could have had.
This is fucking retarded. It's the same person, you just won't be fucking a girl quite as young. It's better than not fucking anything, and what's a lot more important than how young her skin is, is companionship. Stop being such a fucking incel

>>31100171
One of the biggest problems is when you're dating in your 30s, half the time it's because you had a very long relationship in your 20s and are out of practice with meeting new new people. This only applies to guys of course, women just spread their legs for the last guy that asked them out while they were still in a relationship.

>>31100281
Sex is a big part of relationships, and the sex being shittier than it would have been if you had started younger is a bit reason not to bother

>>31100171
I know HOW to date, the issue is finding anyone TO date.

I got bullied and called ugly for no reason in school. Every girl I was interested in already had a boyfriend. It's the same as an adult. Everyone I'd be interested in is already taken.

>>31100294
Jesus Christ no it fucking isn't. This is all shit you say when you're rationalizing why to be a lazy piece of shit. If you actually experienced it, it'd be a no brainer.

Your premise isn't even correct, btw. I've fucked girls in their 20s who were terrible, and I've fucked girls in their 30s who were amazing. You're just coming up with bullshit excuses.

>>31100314
I'm not gonna get the carefree early 20s dating life that I missed out on, so there's no point. I'm not ready for "mature" "adult" relationships, and those don't work anyway if they're the only relationships you've ever experienced. You need the memories of more carefree times to carry you through them, but I don't have those memories.

>>31100304
There are a few things to do. One, join social clubs or activities with girls in the target demographic. I know it can be an uncomfortable pain in the ass, but women in their 30s have friends, social activities, etc. You need to go where they are.

The other thing is, just as you're looking for a partner before you get too old, women are thinking the same thing but it's even worse for them because a lot of them feel like they're running out of time to start families. Once you date girls your age, you'll meet women who will basically be looking at you like are we good together? Great, let's have a family. Or whatever.

And don't fucking use the incel mentality of leftovers who are ready to settle down after fucking chad or whatever, because that's retarded bullshit.

>>31100319
You've given up on life because you're a pathetic loser. It's not about memories of carefree times, it's about enjoying life. Your perspective is delusional. Yeah, some people had a nice girlfriend in high school. A lot of people dated gross, weird, dramatic teenagers who acted like teenagers. You're pining for something that didn't happen, and that's stupid. Go meet somebody. Or don't, I don't fucking care, do whatever you want. But you not seeking somebody has nothing to do with you missing the boat, and everything to do with you being lazy and afraid of life.

>>31100337
I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO MEET PEOPLE. That is the problem.

I've tried everywhere.

>>31100323
But that's exactly what those women are doing. They're just settling and taking what they can get.

>>31100171
>Lol just go for smelly pajeets and slanted eye gooks white anon! It's what I would do

Not everyone buys into your passport white worship bullshit. Foreign women are just as retarded if not more so, but hey easy sex right?

>>31100323
I can't have children with a woman in her 30s. They're genetically inferior to children birthed by a woman in her 20s and have an increased risk of defects like autism.

I refuse to have children that are less than optimal.

>>31100323
You have to date for at least 3-4 years before you can even think about getting married or having children

>>31098370
My fiancee is 38 and neither fat nor insane. Where are you even looking?

>>31100436
Single
Sane
Good looking

Pick two.

>>31100323
I need a partner of the same mental age as me. Because I grew up lonely and socially isolated, I never really got to experience life and so my mind never developed beyond that of a child. I have the mental and emotional maturity of a child due to missing out on valuable experiences and life lessons. I never got a chance to fool around, make mistakes, and learn from them, resulting in me being extremely immature for my age.

>>31100323
>women in their 30s have friends, social activities, etc. You need to go where they are
where I live that activity is almost exclusively wine tasting tours at vinyards. I might as well be allergic to alcohol and I also despise the wino culture people pretending to be cultured as a plausible excuse to get plastered before mid day on a Thursday.

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I'm not going to tell you to ignore the teenagers and guys in their twenties since you already know to do that. But you do it literally the same way as everyone else: You either keep going until you find someone suitable, or you give up and accept that you'll be that way forever. It doesn't magically change that much as you get older.
t. 37 year old

>>31098483
>>31098518
>>31098586
Stats show the average age gap in relationships is 2-3 years, and big gaps (10+) are extremely rare. Seriously why don't you guys ever just look things up

>>31098370
>All the leftovers are fat as fuck or insane.
And which are you?

>>31098370
I wanted to nail this chick so fucking bad

>>31100960
Those include boomer and gen x marriages where age gaps were far less common.

>>31100418
>dates and fucks around with 25+ women

I almost feel bad when they don't get the clue right off the bat that this won't last simply due to their aging uterus. My gf right now is 28 and has a history of retards in her family. I'll be damned if I create a fucked up kid by a woman whose still "finding" herself. This is why I want to go back to uni and maybe find a younger woman who isn't totally stupid.

>>31100550
>live in a major city
>the best I can do is finding retarded thot trash at raves or other likewise cesspool

The problem is bitches are at the extreme ends of opposite. You'll either luck up and run into a neet anti social bitch or you'll have to swim the wave of muck of attention seeking whores. I haven't met a "normal" woman in a VERY long time, probably my last year of high school and I'm 33 now.

>>31100962
Men dont become leftovers like women, cope all you want. A guy can get back in the game with a swift kick up his ass, a woman cannot by mere aging alone. Blame the creator for making sperm viable till your 60's, but the wall comes at 25. If a guy truly becomes leftovers then it's because of his own lack of action. Even volcel fags who died old in history have some form of respect behind them, what woman is respected in history by having loads of dicks and not bearing any heirs?

>>31101011
Break up with her now bro

>>31098463
kek

>>31101024
Yeah im getting around to it. I'm already damn near fully tapped out mentally.

>>31100143
Then you're woefully out of shape. The real blackpill here for you is that if you actually had sex, that would leave you exhausted and out of breath too.

>>31100294
Pretty picky for a guy who isn't fucking anything anytime soon. And sex doesn't magically become "shittier" when people are slightly older. It might be harder for you to larp and pretend a woman in her 30s is straight out of your loli anime but that's very much a you problem, one that normal people will never encounter.

If you meet someone who fits with you, great. if not, dont spend your days preoccupied by that vaccuum. its possible to have a rewarding life without a sexual relationship. Frankly its mostly hormones that torment young people so much.

>>31101493
Hormones only torment you if they're not released.

>>31100535
That's not going to happen unless you get a much younger woman...which is also not going to happen.
I'm being as nice as possible here when I say this: you need to grow up. I get that growing up lonely and isolated leaves its mark on a person, but at the same time you seem to be actively leaning into it rather than rising up and overcoming it. If you really want those valuable experiences and life lessons, you'll snap out of this childish cope and start living your life now. You might have a steep learning curve, and you will make mistakes along the way. But guess what? So does everyone else.

>>31101023
>If a guy truly becomes leftovers then it's because of his own lack of action.
And what do you know? That's exactly what I see on this board in every incel/tfwnogf thread, every single day.
And stop the cope about sperm. This was never about sperm. You may have viable sperm for a longer time as a man than women do with their eggs, but that doesn't matter if no woman wants anything to do with the source of that sperm. If you are "leftovers" it means no one wants YOU, whether you are a man or woman. Anything else is cope.

Quit your job and go to university again.

Right now you're just limited to your friends but in university you're free to speak to whoever you like all the time.

I'm 31 and while I wasn't the most confident in my 20s, my confidence has absolutely plummeted in the last 3 years. Here's an outline of my regression

2019
>Go see a former coworker
>She just had a breakup, we walk around downtown and go down by the riverside park
>Walk back to her apartment
>She's like "OK thanks for coming to see me, I needed that"
>Ask if I can go see her apartment
>She's surprised but says sure
>An hour later we're fucking
>turns into a 6 month relationship before I move to finish my degree

2023
>Get text from my her saying she found some gifts I gave her and that she thought of me again, no hard feelings
>we start to get flirty again, ends in phone sex
>I invite her to come visit me in my new city 3.5 hours away, she agrees
>secretly buy cum load supplements, some other sex stuff we talked about, start eating tons of pineapple and celery
>Suddenly can't seem to get the conversation to sex stuff
>Get stuck on lame topics like "It's probably colder where you are right?" or "I just watched Oldboy, super good. Great recommendation"
>Realize what I'm doing but can't pull out of my balless-beta tailspin and get back to telling her I want to fill her like a Boston cream pie
>Convo dries up, she never comes to visit
>she finally texts back last night after several weeks of silence
>I immediately betamode out again and give lame responses, she replies once and then goes silent again

It's weird, I felt so swagless and unconfident in my 20s but I was fucking Cassanova compared to what I'm capable of now.

>>31101522
I don't know where to start. I cannot find people to interact with anywhere.

>>31101638
Is this the same anon who always makes threads about wandering aimlessly outside and never finding people to talk to?
This is cope of the highest order. You didn't go to high school or college by yourself. You don't work all alone by yourself. You have no doubt had COUNTLESS opportunities over the course of your life to meet people, make friends, meet women, etc. You have simply squandered them all.

>>31098439
>30s is perfect time to date younger.

^ this

>>31098370
33 here. Divorced 2 years ago. Fucked a couple of whores in the meantime and had a one night stand. I cant believe the time, effort and money my friends are spending on bumble/tinder meat market to get dates and fuck, interestingly they also get scared when the girl wants to become a serious couple lol. I don't see the point anymore.

>>31101653
>You didn't go to high school or college by yourself

I may as well have since I got bullied all the time, and even the few people I got along with didn't live nearby, so I had no way to see them outside of school. And the kids that did live in my neighborhood never went outside.

>You don't work all alone by yourself.

Nobody I work with has anything in common with me, nor do I want my work life and my social life to overlap.

>>31101536
The sperm viability wasn't my point stupid ass, my whole argument is that men have an overall greater shelf life compared to women and that aging is just one facet of it and that viability into your 60's is one example. And let's be honest, who gives a fuck about old leftover women? This is exactly why you see motherfuckers like Larry David or Sean Connery being able to get prime pussy in his 70's, but a billionaire like Oprah has been with the same shmuck since the 90's with no other guy trying to fuck her dusty ass pussy despite her billions. Women and men operate on completely different sources of attraction and as a man you actually NEED to not try to become a leftover, with women its just a matter of when not if. You're delusional as hell if you think the current set of late 20's and early 30's women arent priming themselves to be a complete factories worth of leftovers. A /r9k/ loser on 4chan has more of a shot of not being a leftover male than an OF "model" if he gives a true fuck.

>>31101792
Plus my shift is often barren. Most of the time it's just me and a bunch of older married women. I don't really work with anyone my own age.

The internet has made it a lot harder to meet people. A lot of people that you'd meet in the past simply by going out and doing things are now at home on the internet due to how expensive going out has gotten. Most people can only afford a social activity once a month.

I can't waste money going out because if I do, I starve and my bills don't get paid. Plus I have to put $100 in savings each month

>>31099995
Unfortunately romantic relationships don't necessarily come with sex as a given. Even when you are in one you have to work for it. And even then there is no guarantee.

>>31101659
That's what happens to most men from what I've heard. I had a tough time finishing my master's degree and it really undermined my confidence and self-image. That might have been why I took an aberrant path instead of becoming a secure, collected 30s daddy for zoomettes. Ah well.

>>31100998
Post a source showing that it's common with millennial/gen z. It isn't.

>>31100418
The #1 cause of autism is advanced paternal age (male being 35+). Look it up. So you would be the one causing retardation in your kid no matter how old the woman is.

>>31101802
Kek middle aged men kill themselves in droves because of how sad and lonely they are. Male loneliness epidemic is a serious thing. Women will never even understand this, much less feel it themselves. They can pull plenty of dudes even when they're 45 and have 3 kids, because they are always valued more than men. Society sees men as disposable and worthless, not prizes. You're delusional bro

>>31098370
dont be shallow

>>31098428
you're clearly talking to a roastie who's seething that her looks faded as she got older and couldn't get a man to commit

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>>31098370
if you haven't figured out that men in their 30s date women in their early 20s you're ngmi

you can still do this in your 40s too
only thing is you have to have your life sorted, in your 20s you can be unemployed or a bartender living with his parents and still slay but once you hit your 30s you should have a career, house, etc. then it's ez mode
so I'm told.

you leave the single moms and whales to the guys who also have kids or are complete deadbeats, all those people deserve each other

don't date women your own age, date younger, they haven't made 18 year olds illegal (yet)

>>31098392
I AM BEING CRUSHED BY LONILINESS.

You can just date 20 year old Asian girls from poor countries like Philippines or Palestine. The government is Jewish so they support any dilution of Europeans from the U.S., just make sure you go through an immigration lawyer.

>>31100171
>>31100288
Thats my situation, I dated a girl from 26-31 and we broke up for a variety of reasons, now Im 33 and its tough going back into the dating world, especially post-covid

>>31105243
that doesn't work really. it used to be like that back when we still lived under patriachy. if you're in your 30s, still handsome, full head of hair, tall, then yes you could fuck girls in their early 20s/teens. I know a guy like that, lives like a bum too. in terms of sexual attraction young girls couldn't give a flying fuck about your resources, they want thrills. some young girls will use men they're not attracted to for material comfort but that's more a sugarbaby thing not real passion

>>31106626
Pino women will fuck your brains out, but are extremely jealous and you can’t divorce in Philippines. Congratulations also on marrying her whole family because you all will live together.

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>>31098370
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.
Boomers and gen-x are throwing money at young pussy like never before, we are talking boat trips, exotic trips, paying their rent and bills, buying them gifts, trips to beauty salons, etc. Many of them have net worths in the millions. Just look at all those modelling agencies and realize how many pretty girls are being baited to fuck the rich and upper class.
Then there are chad millennials and chad zoomers who get their first pick at all the young pussy.
Then at the end of the line there is you anon, the average nobody with no money, no charisma, no looks, no social circle, no experiences and no toys.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

man this pasta must be 5 years old now

>>31100960
Because the older I get, the bigger the age gaps become. Why would I look up stats when my own experience has shown me otherwise? I'm not saying it invalidates the averages but I seem to have no problem dating younger.

>>31100425
Sorry, I know this is coming from the right intention, but this is a bad take. Let's say you found a few people and dated for a couple years each time, let's say it wasn't even your full 3-4, let's say you did about 1-2 years a partner. Hopefully you find someone worth it in the next five or so relationships or you're SOL with starting a healthy family, and we all know there will be some refractory time in there. People who say you need to date someone for years and get married are deluded on how time works. Ideally you would start very young, but statistically people aren't stable enough to really do that these days until mid to late 20s or even later. So you're really pressed for time at that point.

>>31099256
date a younger girl

I'm 29, I got back into the dating market after being a NEET loser for most of my 20s. I can't help but feel all the girls I am getting now are leftovers, literally. It is near impossible to find the shutin girl because she never is out. I've had more single mothers contact me than ever before, I'm not taking care of your because you're irresponsible and let a deadbeat cum inside you and didn't abort the thing. I do have a minimum of have many people she has slept with and that is no more than three, thanks to the science and pair-bonding this is still the most "level-headed" take.
I'm not even trying to go for a drop-dead gorgeous girl, I am looking for my plain jane, but even plain jane is a unicorn amongst the sea of woman in the dating market. Not to mention dating young is actively being constricted because woman who didn't get a ring on her finger are actively taking to social media to brainwash these young girls to not date older men and it is "creepy" but doing OF and posting nudes of herself all over the internet is "empowering."
I'm not fully demoralized yet as I'm not ready to go to another country to find a girl, but I'm starting to formulate trips and ideas to make it happen so I'm not far off. The worst part is most woman like my hobbies now because they're "cool" and "normal" now but I still remember my hobbies were once their break-grounds for bullying because it was "weird' and "cringe" back then.

>>31098370
Don't date 30+ hags?

>>31109380
Similar story here. I'm a successful guy and consider myself good looking and decent at dating. But the biggest issue as you pointed out has been the body count thing. It has been literally impossible to find a girl with less than 10. I kid you not. These women are pretty and fun to be around but as soon as I find that out I'll slowly cut contact and keep looking. I envy those who found a virgin or a low body count women in their early 20s

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>>31098448
>You should stay single, it saves you from severe health problems (both physical and mental).
FTFY. But seriously, post-wall roasties are a MUCH worse alternative. It’s easier to just figure out how to learn to live alone. Get a couple of dogs, an outdoor hobby like fishing, an indoor hobby like art or music, and you’ll have a better life than most married cucks.

>>31100171
> "Just move countries bro!!111"
What an incredible display of loser behaviour anon. How this is taken as serious advice by some people is beyond me.

>>31109380
I'm 30 and my gf is 20. granted I'm tall and handsome. not bragging, that's just the way it is. if you look good, everything is possible

>>31100171
>>31111040
I’m a white guy traveling in India and I haven’t met many of those docile trad women that are rumored to be here in large numbers. Well, the pajeets tell me they’re in rural areas and tend to be relatively ‘uncivilized’.. not the kind of people you’d want to marry. Anyway, the city girls who I have met are absolutely vile. There was this obese 18 year old who has to be one of the ugliest roasties I’ve ever laid my eyes upon. Initially she feigned innocence and modesty.. lmao turns out that she would have sex with lines of strangers in her house whenever her parents were out.

>>31098370
Reproduction isn't really something where beggars are choosers I think you might just be gay

>>31110588
Yeah and then you can't tell your life stories to anyone when you get old because you have no grandchildren. That's if you even live past 65. Loneliness is unhealthy and expensive.

>>31111297
What life stories? No one can do shit anymore my nigger. My grandfather was a legitimate adventurer who ate with cheetahs in the savannah. wtf are we supposed to tell our grandchildren?

>>31111297
Do you actually believe everyone "passes on stories"? No, most people die alone and afraid in nursing homes or in a cold empty hospital. Also, how is "loneliness" expensive? It may be for women, since they statistically spend more than they earn but for men? Staying single is the most sound financial decision a man could ever make in his entire life. Maybe when/if they finally start pushing harder for taxing singles I could see that being a potential possibility but they would sooner import more immigrants in to replace all the whites that wouldn't have sex anyway.

>>31098439
Women don't date much older men. Max 4 years older.

>>31100281
>It's the same person
She didn't want me when I was sowing, she won't get me when I'm reaping. (She will get pump and dumped though)

>>31113621
once again, it depends on the man in question. the issue is that most men are 100% deluded when it comes to their own aging, because they've been lulled into a false sense of security by redpill boomer tier advice that age makes a man more attractive, or at least doesn't diminish his value. this doesn't work anymore really. most of my mates ( early 30s) look noticeably past their prime. thinning, lifeless hair, deep lines, eyebags and bad sking in general from stress, overweight. no young woman is looking for that. but if you keep your looks, your hair, are tall/handsome, you should have 0 issue pulling girls 10 years younger

>>31098418
they're out there, anon.
>be mid 20s two years ago
>meet 50s something online
I know if I string the right actions and words we'll end up together but I'm not for reasons.

>>31099570
>Not producing the next generation of /adv/ posters to burden society with
Ngmi

>>31113792
now THIS is burdenmaxxing

>>31098370
>How do I deal with dating in my 30s? All the leftovers are fat as fuck or insane.
Leftovers? You're doing it wrong.
You date hot as fuck 20 - 29 year olds om your 30s anon.

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>>31098370
By understanding that dating young isn't all that great either, dating sucks at all ages.

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>>31111802
>Also, how is "loneliness" expensive?

All the money you have to spend on medication and therapy for the physical and mental problems it causes?

- Less pleasure from social stimulation
- Shrinks the hippocampus, leading to impaired stress regulation, learning capability, memory, spatial awareness, and attention span
- Increased inflammatory response, resulting in physical pain and increased risk of inflammatory diseases
- Sleep deprivation
- Decreases life expectancy by a massive 15 years

>>31111802
He didn't say anything about being single, he said being lonely is expensive. Those are two entirely different things.

>>31101573
I dont understand at all. Just because you turned 31 you cant talk to her about sex anymore? Or you need her to set you up to get there and she wont? Sounds like you had a good time though. Better than I ever did. Oh well everything must end eventually.

>>31098370
Date younger women. why would you date women your age?

>>31098472
>>31113621
>>31100960
you are a zoomer coping. Just wait a few years and date gen alpha women when they're 18.

>>31100171
>Guys in their 30s are dating. In fact, there are a lot of women in their late 20s who will be into you.
>There are still hot girls who will date you. I know, it isn't like being 21, when most girls were cute. But there are plenty of girls a couple years younger than you who are plenty hot and will date you.
You don't have to date women your age. I'm 31 and my gf is 20. It's not a huge deal as long as you don't look middle aged

I'm 39 so I know how painful it is to get to know girls, let alone decent ones.

>>31118250
34yo that dated a 18yo for 2 years here (18-20)
that image is pretty fucking spot on.

Is there the image its quoting so I can have a read of it too?

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>>31122743
pic related

>>31118250
>>31122743
you can train an 18 year old to be your perfect partner. you can't do that with a 28 year old. also zoomers have less friends so no one will try to break you apart

>>31109380
>It is near impossible to find the shutin girl
trust me bro, they arent great either.
The one i had couldnt communicate worth a shit. Ended up being one of the main reasons we broke up.

>>31124805
You can possibly train them, but not all of them. That one I was bored as shit with in the end. Its honestly not worth it unless they are smoking hot, but then there is zero chance they will go for you anyway.

"zoomies have less friends"
top kek bro.

>>31124805
bro 18 year old is not a child, they already have somewhat develoiped habits and worldviews they will stand on. Maybe more malleable in general, but there will be a lot of areas in which they wont budge already. Especially considering that modern 18 yolds are bombarded with politics since eraly on thanks to internet. There is a reason why fucking 18 years old is not as aggravating as fucking 13 years old.

>>31118250
most helpful post ive seen in adv this year

>>31101493
>just ignore biologically programmed human instinct bro

>>31098370
You could try batting for the same team.

>>31124805
If your definition of perfect partner is very tightly scoped to
>sex partner
maybe, but for basically anything else, it's a mixed bag at best

>>31113621
lol what. I was 30 and got a 17 year old gf. It only lasted a year because she went to school but still. My last GF was 7 years younger than me. When I was in college my female friend was 18 and she was dating a 32 year old.

Girls always prefer older men.

>>31098448
>You can't stay single, it causes severe health problems
i am example that it doesn't
hiring a hooker and/or jerking off supplies the most needed thing you need from relationship without the headache of the burden that comes with the rest of it

>>31100425
except for the cases where people dated for less and ended up having life-long marriage
if we ignore those, then your statement is correct

>>31100835
but what if someone gives up too early? or if someone keeps going until they die? what if they finally find someone and, initally seeming to be a perfect match, it reality ends up fucking your life down the line beyond anything a single life ever could?

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Was going to start my own thread but this seems like a good place to ask this:

Are most people just settling when they get married?
As in, if you have already had that "big falling in love" person in your life and didn't marry them, are you just left with choosing someone to marry the same way you would choose a reliable secondhand car?

Is it all a farce or is being in love still a main motivator for marriage?
It couldn't be right? Since falling in love is so rare.

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>>31110588
>Get a couple of dogs,

This is the true epidemic.
Sad people subsisting off of the love of a dog or a cat.
That is not a life.
It is a hostage situation.

>>31125038
then why do americans think that adult women under 25 are literal childrens who can be "groomed"?

>>31124915
>"zoomies have less friends"
>top kek bro.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7em9x/friendship-applications-gen-z-loneliness

>>31124915
>but then there is zero chance they will go for you anyway.
why?

>>31098370
Don’t date leftovers. Fuck anything you can and go for younger girls who haven’t been tainted yet. They are out there. It will require you to put yourself around younger people obviously so you will have to go out to bars and what not.

>>31128825
>go for younger girls who haven’t been tainted yet.
Where?
>bars
Seriously?

Male dating prospects are supposed to get better with age, unlike women that age like milk.
If you're not getting good women in your 30s, just wait until you're in your 40s

>>31128854
>seriously?
Yes. You’re in your 30s where else are you going to meet them? Would you rather I told you to hang out at the local college? Lol. Go for younger chicks. Meet them irl at bars and events or meet them on dating apps. Plenty of younger chicks like older guys. I would say most of them do. Meet them at work local coffee shop or something. Put yourself out there.

Also, how would you meet girls your age? Bar? Dating app? Yeah obviously. What’s the difference with age

>>31128871
Bars are where they go to get fucked by random guys.

>>31128870
do they actually get better? or are your prospects women in their 30s and 40s? That's not better

>>31128854
If you’re a native English speaker volunteer at the local college ESL program. They usually have a program or class where they pair up ESLs with native speakers for conversation practice, as well as cultural norms or idiom explanations. I met loads of girls there, and you get all age groups and all backgrounds/personalities because they’re forced to take the program/class, which means you pretty frequently meet those girls who would otherwise be shut tins. Best pet is beginning of the school year because you get access to all the FOB Muslim girls before Chad has had a chance to ruin them.

>>31128871
>Meet them irl at bars
the drinking age is 21. what about 18 year olds?

>>31128882
That's actually good advice lol. I find Arab girls hot so...

>>31128880
Yes, you'll have more money and time for self-improvement

>>31128882
That should be shut ins and best part, Jesus.

>>31128870
>>31128880
do people still actually believe this redpill cope? the balance of power shifts somewhat in your favour as you age, within your OWN age group. no prime girl is looking for a 40 y/o man unless it's a sugarbaby thing or he was handsome in his youth and aged like a god. most my friends are early 30s and they ain't pulling shit, they have difficulties with women in their own age group let alone college girls. I know one dude who's 30 and his girl is a decade younger but he legit looks like a model. different rules. for 99% of men it's a different story

>>31128878
No it’s not. Bars are where everyone meets up. Some girls go to get fucked but you can tell who they are because they look like trashy whores. Plenty of normal non whore women go to bars to do what most other normal people go to bars for… to have fun with their friends.

This whole retard notion that circulates on here that bars are only for whores is a retarded circle jerk perpetuated by incels who have never experienced the simple act of going to a bar

>>31128885
Bars still apply because many especially in college towns will let them in with a fake id. Or you can go to concerts and shit like that if you’re into that. Concert is probably next best place.

I’m not saying it’s easy and that you can do it from the comfort of your room lol it requires you to leave your comfort zone a bit. If you’re 30s and single then you have missed your best opportunities to find a gf or wife. Now you are playing on hard mode so get creative and bold

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>>31128882
Do you have to be enrolled in order to do this? I have three degrees I don't want a fourth.

>>31098370
First off, you are dead wrong. Half of all women are divorced. You just have childish requirements bc you are a child.
>She has children
You are supposed to too at 30. Here is the problem. You fucked up already. But you cant get any of the smoking hot single moms because they want a real man, who has had children before, not a boy who will never grasp any aspect of their life.
That leaves you with never married crazies and 600lbers.
Also I bet you see 170lbs as fat instead of sexy. Lots of men here are actually pedophiles in denial who want women with the skinny bodies of little boys. So real women are off limits to you too, if you are that guy.

>>31113621
This is the OPPOSITE of true. The men's loneliness epidemic is bc women in their 20's want men in their 30's or even 40's. Women in their 30's also want men in their 30's and 40's.

No one wants men in their 20's except as fucks, like milfs and horny women looking for one night stands, and only if theyre very hot.

>>31129170
>you should want "smoking hot" single moms
>you should wan 170lb pound women or your a pedo
Why do americans think like this?

>>31128904
>>31128891
>>31128870
>within your age range
so dating prospects aren't better as you get older

>>31128733
>https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7em9x/friendship-applications-gen-z-loneliness
IRL freinds sure.
Have you seen their friends lists on Insta/Facebook? Its like 600 - 800 every time.

I am talking from experience here, i had a 16year age gap with an 18yo for 2 years. I know what I'm talking about

>>31128736
In the context of what I said is if they are smoking hot.
No one here is rich enough to sugar daddy for them
You'll probably pull a 5 at best and then have all the issues in that image I quoted further up.

>>31129341
>I am talking from experience here, i had a 16year age gap with an 18yo for 2 years. I know what I'm talking about
but you still with her for 2 years

>>31129362

So you only want to fuck them not have a LTR with them?
if so go hard mate.
But when you're older you will realise there is more to life than just slamming a teenager.

>>31128997
A couple of volunteers weren’t enrolled at my program, but I would assume it varies by program/school. I would suspect if the teacher thought you were only there to pick up chicks they might bar you though, you’ve got to at least make an effort to do what they ask you.

>>31098392
This man gets it

>>31129170
Women are not supposed to weigh 170lbs.

>>31129499
So what's the other option? date women over 28 that want to settle down? Most relationships end within 2 years regardless of age. If you date enough 18 year olds you might get one that wants a long term relationship

>>31130202
because people change significantly from 20~ to 30 years of age.
There is a stupidly low chance that an 18yo you hook up with will still want to be with you 10-12 years later, nor will they be the same person.

>I missed out on xyz
>i just want to travel now

Its a complete shit show, i get it.

Again, just my experience (as an old fag).
I wouldn't date that young again, mid 20's and up for me desu.

mom

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>>31129184
>No one wants men in their 20's except as fucks, like milfs and horny women looking for one night stands, a
I'm a 20s dude and that has been my experience

>>31128906
>>31128917
these

>>31113621
Hahaha! 18 yo sluts date 40 you guys because they have nice cars all the time retard.

>>31100171
>where they like (white) Americans
N/A, you suck (your niggs too) and everyone knows it.

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>>31098370
I ended up with a divorced mom 10 years younger than me.
The women in their 30s never married with no kids were politically insane and all about being the girl boss. The never been married with kids were great in bed, but were lousy moms and couldn't be trusted with money.
The young divorced mom had great kids and really just wanted to be a great wife and mom. She knew that having sex and keeping herself beautiful was important.
It's been a great fit.

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>>31102187
>Unfortunately romantic relationships don't necessarily come with sex as a given
If you're a teenager that's fine. In our 30s then yes it's a given or I have no time for you.

I've got lots of guy friends that I go motorcycling, fishing, or watching the game with. I don't need "friends". I was also married once, so I don't need a sexless "romance" that's really just me trying to cater to a woman that has no idea what she wants.

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>>31101802
>men have an overall greater shelf life compared to women
>>31103320
>Society sees men as disposable and worthless, not prizes.
different anon here

You are both correct depending on what the man has accomplished. Women's status is based on looks and fertility. Men's is based on accomplishments, which is mostly but not totally wealth and income. Fertility inevitably goes down with age, looks usually does. Wealth, income, and social status can go either way.

I had a way easier time finding a wife in my 30's. I actually had women stop me to chat me up. I'm in my 50s now and my mid 40s wife drunkenly admitted that if she left me I could easily replace her with a younger woman. Did I get better looking or more socially adept?
Hello no, I got my professional degree and a great income.

>>31128373
>choosing someone to marry the same way you would choose a reliable secondhand car?
In a way yes, but if you pick well and have a good mindset, true love does come later. It's rather similar to how arranged marriages used to work.
You work hard to support her and keep her happy, she works hard to support you and keep you happy. You keep staring into that face as you come.
the emotions follow.

>>31128888
I just met one at work. She's actually Armenian and my parents are Turkish but she seems cool with it.

>>31098428
If he wasn't leftovers he wouldn't be dating in his 30s

>>31098370
If you're a man you can just date women in their 20s its no problem.

>>31128904
A lot of coping going on here. None of my friends in their 30s are slaying young pussy and they all have good careers too. Maybe shit was different back then but young women aren't looking for a provider, they're looking for a good fuck, for fun ( looks, not money)

>>31099995
All the health benefits of sex can easily be replicated with regular cardio

>>31100404
You've been given a lot of advice. Here's a tip. Go outside where people are. That's how you meet them.

>>31100171
Nah. A as t this point celibacy is my only option

>>31133586
I'm considering going back to college to finish my engineering degree. I'd be late 30s by the time I finish. I have almost no work history aside from shitty minimum wage jobs. Do you think someone would hire me as an engineer?

>>31129170
170 lbs is fucking fat

>>31129170
Real women take care of themselves and that means under 150 if she's average height lmao

>>31129170
Great bait

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Talk to younger females. Take what you want. Steal someone's gf. Grab their hands and tell them you want them and talk sexual things. Talk sexual stories. That's the main thing. Talk sexual stories and then after you've fucked they get addicted to your dick. Tell them necropedophile stories/jokes if you dare.

>>31098370
>>31101653
We all know what these guys really need but every one here is too much of a pussy retard to say it. Without proper therapy and/or counseling these people won’t land partners let alone friends. They NEED a professional who will brainwash them into normie culture. Women are normies by nature, ie they don’t think along the same lines as your average autist here. If you aren’t of that mindset, completely and utterly programmed into the matrix, then your odds of mating here are slim to none. It is what it is but you retards would rather sit here and ponder trivial shit rather than learn to play the game. It’s either that or become part of the LGBTQBLAblabla

As for me? The life of a happy chad-lite voluntary celibate who will be pumping and dumping well into his 80s while you tards are still on here whining about trivial bs. Thanks!

>>31130213
but how do you know a 25 year old will be the same when she's 30? get a wholesome introverted submissive 18 year old and she'll stay the same

>>31098370
>deal with dating
That should be the least of your concern right now.
I hate to break it to you, but we don't live in a world where common interests/values exist anymore.
We live in a world of limited resources and opportunities, and that applies to dating as well.
You seek self-interest only, keeping in mind that dating has become more or less a zero-sum game. Someone always wins at the cost of the loser. Some games are longer, some games are shorter, some games have higher stakes (marriage), some games have lower stakes (no strings attached, no buy-ins).
All the fat as fuck or insane leftovers you speak of? They are no different to the losers with a gambling problem.
I really hate to put it in those terms, but they are based on my observations as well as that of countless others.
If you want to test my hypothesis, do it at your own peril.
I am only telling this, because I don't want you to be a loser like me who lost everything gambling.