>have to draw more to get better at drawingThere's really no other way, is there?
>>7159912I did not manage to achieve that in 6 months. I can copy things accurately, and I can paint from life, but I'm completely helpless when I attempt to draw from life because the real world has no lines to copy. Nothing really suggests the appearance of lines to me, and I consistently attempt to invent them out of the wrong features. All the resources I've used teach copying drawings and drawing from life as the same skill even though to me it seems like they are completely unrelated, so I'm not sure what I should really even be trying to do.
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>>7159895yes, however a lot of people don’t know about the different study techniques to actually improve1) draw a study2) draw it from memory3) compare to reference4) repeatthe memory part is actually the most important
>>7159912Good post.A few things:>this is the way art was taught for 500 yearsAnon the history of teaching in art is not nearly so neat and tidy.You're overgeneralizing with this "until modern art schools" phrasing.>"people are "learning..."People are "learning" for their entire lives. I don't doubt there's people who don't learn their anatomy.I do doubt that you actually have a story about someone who hasn't learned anatomy after 10 years of trying.You can point me to a /beg/ thread and that would be a "cop-out." If you don't have a complete case study or at least a personal anecdote.I'd turn this one back around on you: >your thoughts about reality are not reality, anon.I think it's unwise for you to go around supposing that you know people that, in reality, you actually don't know. You don't have a personal friend who's been struggling to learn anatomy for 10 years.>there's a chance that was youComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7160557I feel weirdly violated by this post. Is this what it's like having a therapist?You're spot on, btw. Nailed me. The inner workings of my unconscious are all clear to me now
>What's a webtoon?Webtoon is the ancient Korean art of scrolling comics. Instead of traditional manga/comic pages, panels are spread out individually for easier reading on cell phones.>So they're just spliced manga/comic pages?You can do that if you want, but they're fundamentally different for a few reasons. For example, panels tend to be drawn longer to fit phone screens, and traditional 2-page spreads are not possible to fit in scrolling format.>Are there standard page sizes?Technically yes, but it depends on which platform you post in. Naver Webtoons uses800x1280px, but the site automatically splices & resizes images anyway.>Do I have to make it in color?If you want subscribers, yes.>Why would I make one?To be rich & famous, of course. All jokes aside, the pay is low if you're lucky enough to get hired in the first place, the deadlines are more brutal than the manga industry, and the average reader age floats around 11. But as a novel medium with a growing industry, it may still be worthwhile enough for you to experiment.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7157928>>7160499lmao I pray to God you post this on webtoons
>>7160544My goal is to release them into the wild with page numbers and my x/ig Addy in the bottom tight hand corner, though if anyone knows a good place let me know. I feel like there will be too much extreme sex and violence for webtoon
>>7160677Global Comix and comicfury will let you post whatever you want, or so they claim
new updatehttps://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/goodnight-dana/list?title_no=839366:)
>>7160725If anyone wants to collaborate on comics or workshop ideas I started a discord https://discord.com/invite/6jrebQux
Thread to study the male body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute boys and handsome men.Some resources:>English Youtube channel with tutorials about ikemen/anime boys:https://www.youtube.com/user/SirKite92/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/c/Dospordos/videosRules:>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different male body types, ikemen/twink/bara. Nobody cares.>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.>No shota. Go to /lsg/ or /ssg/ for that.>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.>Females are welcome so long as the image remains male focused.>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7155865I get some dork vibes from this guy, what a cutie
>>7155865i like the composition (overall) anon. like i feel the doodles complete it
>>7150908My submission for the Host Club event!!I can't imagine my OCs taking a fancy setting too seriously so I let them run the local tiki bar instead lol https://youtu.be/0ePLy7Ddcp4?si=DhbuvKuwHiuFQOgW
>>7160239I've watched this several times already, and I cannot stop bopping along with the characters >:{}I can tell you poured your heart into this, and it shows!!!Extremely good work!!!
>>7160239Great work anon this is sick.
I've been trying to look for some good art servers but all of them are weird. Does anyone know any good ones?
>>7159703For the abillionth time it's violet clovers.
>>7159668Steven Zapata posts here, as does Sycra, Dave Rapoza and Daniel Warren.I am one of the above, trust me you, you're in good company.
>>7159778>violet cloversThe Pole was kind to me, please send my regards.
>>7159941>Pole, you say?Prosze, zapraszaj mi do Violet Clovers!!!
I'm trying to start one. This is my art, there are shared resources on there like vid courses and books https://discord.com/invite/6jrebQux
Thread to study the female body. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute girls and beautiful women. No NSFW, to differentiate from /sex/ /asg/ /other generals.Rules:>All art styles welcome so long as the focus is cutesy girls/ beautiful women. Nobody cares about east vs west debates.>Males are welcome so long as the image remains female focus.>For male focused thread post in /cgsg/.>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.>Don't fight about different women vs girls, Nobody cares.>No trans/lolicon/futa/. Go to /sex/ or /lsg/ for that.Previous thread >>6916963
>>7158829Oh it's @DerekLeStrange>>7158832Had to screen shot this to lower image file size. I literally have a small story and their significance to me for each piece but for this one specifically I want you to look at the lil orbs and big ones. They are to represent thought and memory. The big ones are the staples in life like having a cherished friend or loved one. As for the small ones they could be the lil stones that make up who you are as a person. Looking to the fire on the right and seeing how it fades like all things, well, it's only a matter of time, no?
Mermay day 4/5… I think I messed up the torso on the rightmost figure a bit. Wanted to do this in pen/marker, but I ran out of time. >>7158822>>7158824>>7158825>>7158826>>7158828>>7158830>>7158832Are these all trad?! They look wonderful!!!
>>7158822>>7158824>>7158825>>7158826>>7158828>>7158830>>7158832Maybe ive speng too much time on this site, but the faces remind me of wojak and now i cant unsee it
>>7159000They are, thank you ;)>>7159010It's time to stop
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It's because you intend to do it professionally and have attached your sense of self-worth to it.
>>7160714No, it's actually because I was repeatedly raped as a child and drawing is just a compulsive escape from trauma that I can never fully face without going insane.I hate drawing but it's better than the alternative. You wouldn't understand because you never had your butthole reamed. It's just that simple.
>>7160715Take up an instrument
>>7160715im sorry for you
>>7160714> the-most-disgusting-image-on-the-internet.jpg
>>7160715>You wouldn't understand because you never had your butthole reamed.Bold of you to assume that OP isn't a faggot.>>7160714>how to love drawingThe drawing process is tedious, boring, etc and only mega autists enjoy this shit.>INB4>"I love drawing" faggots reply to meIt's easy to say that when you draw for 1 hour every other day instead of 10+ hours every fucking day for decades. Just like anything else in life you'll burnout and hate drawing.
What is the key to using asymmetry in character design tastefully?
>>7160151You petulant little cunt, I grew up on 4chan. I was bullying kokujins to suicide before you jerked off to your first pair of asymmetrical anime girl boots.I've experienced enough to recognize certain trends in design and to understand their origins and destinations. Each generation of weeb following the original weebs has shittier taste than the last. The explosion of shitty taste (over designed gaudy monstrosities, ultra generic copy pasted faces, no color coordination, asymmetrical noise, bad shape design, meaningless accessories, frills and other visual vomit) happened after the second wave of weebs grew up exclusively on the internet. The more time each weeb generation spends online, the worse it gets.Anime is a drug. It's over exaggerated, loud, emotionally juvenile, and meant to rile up the high strung senses of autistic teenagers to keep them placated and distracted from their sexless lives. Long term exposure to anime and other gook products fries the dopamine receptors so that over time, one needs more and more and more nonsense to feel satiated. Genshin crap is near the end stage, a sort of metastasis of bad design that appeals exclusively to addicts, gamblers and porn addled zoomers who discovered hentai when they were nine.Literally just draw random shit in random places. It's not that complicated.
>>7160448anime is pushing boundaries of what's possible and you're complaining? why do you want it to look like real life so much? we've got movies... we've got a shitty real life right now. you said it yourself, literally just draw random shit. don't be afraid of assymetry, don't shy away from meaningless accessories. what are you, a businessman? if you think this is bad, then your growth is stunted, you're getting old and afraid of change. i'm pretty sure that i'm older than you, btw. you can't use the age card in your pointless argument.
>>7160455Older than 47? Doubtful. My very existence is a reminder of the grim reality of this morbid universe.Who said anything about real life? These designs are visually noisy. If you think that's pushing the boundaries of possibilities, yeah, it is, in the same sense that bananas taped to canvas or piss in a tub is pushing the boundaries of modern art in museums.
>>7160151art isn't really 'subjective', if it were we wouldn't study fundies. things like good color scheme, shapes, etc. none of these are subjective, they are universally recognized as good -- if done right. >you'd recognize that all design is subjectivenot at all. if this is true why are there character design classes? >what makes you think that you are good enough to distinguish good design?i'm not a drooling npc. anyway see picrel for a good design. simple and iconic. she is a princess. everyone, regardless of their background and mental state and [x] will recognize her as that. shapes are clean, colors meld well, and she's cute. it's not endless shit tossed all over a generic deviantart tier "oc base" or whatever
onmyoji is a gacha game with, actually, good and creative designs. genshit slop could never ever
Post your favorite / least favorite painting resources, your reviews of them.Not line drawing, but anything about values and color.Things I know about:>Richard Schmid>Harold Speed>Andrew Loomis>various schoolism lectures>Med's MapWhat resources were most helpful for you? Which ones did you not like? Post some studies that you did, following those courses too, if you'd like.
>>7159923thank you so so much again. I search for these things over and over again on youtube, but the algorithm keeps spitting out the same videos for me, and it's hard to find obscure gems such as these things. Thank you
>>7159776>James Gurney wasn't mentionedShame on everybody here
>>7160747How do you study his books? I've read them, but he doesn't tell you how to practice or apply that knowledge.
which of these do you need to sell paintings?
>>7159923damn that lecture series seems great so far. makes me want to learn to paint and study art history lectures (I tried looking for some on youtube last week but couldn't find any of this quality).can anyone source the painting on the left? I want to see it in more detail.
>go to the /dtg/ - Drawing Tablet GeneralI think everyone in that thread is a schizo or same fagging.Is it a good tablet to start drawing with? The reviews look good, and it's cheap right now. For those of you who have it, how is it?
>>7160407that is the tablet i'm currently using
>>7160407I'm the anon above you. Been using xppen for a few years and think it's good quality/price. Only had some issues with the drivers (pen accuracy worsens over time and need to recalibrate every couple months or so).
>>7159994Dunno if that's the H640P or the H950P, But I have the H950P and it's great.Good pressure sensitivity and the buttons felt nice and snappy. I still use it from time to time when I'm not using my screen tablet, so if it's a good price I'd say go for it.
>>7160536Says 950P in the filename. So that's good for the OP I guess.
>>7159994originally had the NEW 1060 PLUS, was nice and wide but it started malfunctioning after ~6 years of abuse (hover issues)i use the H320M now, has a neat thing on the back to jot down notes and sketches on when i'm carrying it in my bagbut really, anything huion that uses pentech 2.0 should be good enough, the rest are just bells and whistles
1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.3: For SFW content please go to the OC redraw threads.4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)6: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.7: Leave all the chit-chat out unless to thank drawfrens. Draw more and talk less.Previous thread:>>6998868
>>7159616our knight friend learns that a wager for leggings or equine comes at a cost when she has neither to offer herself
>>7159678perfect for my interest
>>7160005Fuck you are great, that's really hot.
name Lacy Lanshe sells ecchi custom figmas of her online as well as do onlyfans requests like cosplay dancing
>>7157887Gonna be honest, I don't know what machbanding or colour veining is so you're probably already a better artist than I am. My process is pretty simple though. I set up individuals layers for every aspect of the piece, e.g. hair, top, sclera, iris, lips etc., lay down some flat colours, and then I clip layers on top of them and paint on top, merging them once I become satisfied. I try to keep directional lighting in mind, and colour correct as I go.
Why do people pretend like this?
>>7159820You always want to talk to an audience, even if you don't have one. It's incredibly demoralizing
>>7159862How is it demoralizing when you haven't even worked hard to get one?Can you even justify being embarrassed if no one is there to witness?
>>7159785here's a drawing
>>7160598I SEE THAT MOAI
>>7160687mans has his priorities straight
Why don't anons talk about this more? Isn't it one of the best ways to "make it"?Less competition as only have your countrymen to compete with, or even just artists in your city. Actually able to charge a fair amount because third worlders can't come over to tattoo your clientsIs a scalable business as you can open studios and hire other artists, has an exit strategy so when you get older the business will be able to run itself kind of like a barbershop. Coomer on patreon will stop earning money the second he drops drawing and be irrelevant, plus no pension etcWon't be under threat from AI unlike digital or concept artist etc, so will always be a need for artists especially in countries where lots of people have tattoos like America and BritainIrl networking with other artists, clients and can maybe get tattooed gf, patreon artist is stuck inside house all day and can only network with other coomers.Can actually be proud of the work you do unlike those forced to draw coom to make a living. Before anons say you don't have to draw coom to make a living. all I see is coom artists making it on patreon or pro concept artists.Some of the points also apply to traditional gallery artists. I think it's come full circle to where trad is again the most viable way to make it as an artist, although you can still do tattoo designs in digital so your skills would carry over. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7159732>>Is a scalable business>No, most of the time not.How does it usually work? Is it like a salon where someone rents their space or are artists usually salaried employees? Is it commission based?
>>7160316(o_O) ...... That's a pretty crazy story anon, I wouldn't tattoo on or near someones vagina, penis, anus.... bewbs is about as far as I'd go, I hate piercings so I'd avoid that risk.Sounds like if I just wear gloves and don't tattoo where you tattoo I'll be ok>>7160286These are cool anon, do you buy clearance meat for practice or do butchers give you bits they would throw away for free?>>7160371from what I was reading the owner rents out the chairs. Depending on shop they charge like 50/50 on artist earnings or they charge a flat rate i.e $1000 per month. Seems like the shop owners earn more if they go 50/50 and if the artist is good and brings in lots of money they seem to negotiate up to 65/35
>>7159254Because most tattoo artists work and here we are a bunch of unemployed looses
>>7160581you're assuming you're going to have enough work to pick and choose. you won't
>>7159254I pursued this for a while. Realized after about 6months that most people who get tattoos are retarded weed smokers. There's some genuinely great tattoo artists out there and I have mad respect for the craft but there's no fucking way I can listen to druggies bitch and moan all day with the health dept breathing down my neck. Might have stuck it out if I lived in a state with less occupational licensing.
What's your preferred canvas size?
>>715969624inches by 18inches
>>7159696also 2000 x 2000, but that's just because I like the room for putting all my references on the canvas itself instead of using the reference tab
>>715969632x32 is the best
34in x 24in x 34in
I just use the default A4 on Krita.
How many anons here are actually "classically" or "fomally" trained in an academy or by a teacher who belongs to a noble lineage of art? I see so many insanely skilled painters here, who just drop their art in the draw thread and never give advice or reply to any other anons, and it makes me feel like they have access to knowledge that the rest of his don't have. The video courses, artbooks, and advice given in the various stickies of the generals here don't even seem to be able to help a day 0 beginner cross the bridge towards the high quality stuff I see those anons producing.I don't know. How important is it, in your view, to just go and subscribe to a school like Watts Atelier for 2 years and to just not come back to /ic/ until you're really skilled? For those of you who are really skilled, how did you get there?
>>7158625>brent evistonIs he really that good? I have an instinctive revulsion towards him because some anon kept shilling him for 2 years, but I'm open to changing my mind. If possible, could you post your work? (just a sketch is fine) What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
>>7158551I'm not sure an "art institute" counts as formal training because it's useless and I ended up teaching myself 99.9% of the time off books.I heard similar stories from others, including people that went to art college so it's not just bad luck.Nowadays they're more interested in making money than filtering or expelling bad artists so you end up with self-taught artists as graduates.
>>7158636>What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?>NTANo way in hell he's better than Loomis or Huston (or Vilppu-sama) Don't get me wrong, he's good, really good but not that good, those 3 are literal art Gods.
>>7158636>>7158680There's a pantheon of Art Gods that teach and Vilppu is the numba one by far, not a single other artist, not even Watts can come close to our lord and savior.
>>7158682Based
Join artists from all over the world in the Drawpile, the Premiere Cross-Board Collaborative Drawing Event. A 9500 x 9500 pixel shared canvas awaits!Drawpile Software: drawpile.net/downloadSession URL: sigmatelier.asperger.proServer is accessible 24/7A growing amount of sporadic activity can be found throughout most weekdays, official meetup starts Sundays at 5pm CST. Hope to see you there!Be conscious of the canvas size and considerate of others with the size of your own drawings, make note of your own monitor resolution and magnification. Try to stick to 100-200% magnification-or even higher depending on your native resolution and the relative complexity of your intended work. Read the room, let's try and get the most out of each theme!Canvas images posted to the thread are .jpg files at 70% scale and 40% quality to meet 4chan's resolution and file size requirements.For high quality raw .png canvas files, use the MEGA archive here: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNA
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