Why do people pretend like this?
>>7159820You always want to talk to an audience, even if you don't have one. It's incredibly demoralizing
>>7159862How is it demoralizing when you haven't even worked hard to get one?Can you even justify being embarrassed if no one is there to witness?
>>7159785here's a drawing
>>7160598I SEE THAT MOAI
>>7160687mans has his priorities straight
Why don't anons talk about this more? Isn't it one of the best ways to "make it"?Less competition as only have your countrymen to compete with, or even just artists in your city. Actually able to charge a fair amount because third worlders can't come over to tattoo your clientsIs a scalable business as you can open studios and hire other artists, has an exit strategy so when you get older the business will be able to run itself kind of like a barbershop. Coomer on patreon will stop earning money the second he drops drawing and be irrelevant, plus no pension etcWon't be under threat from AI unlike digital or concept artist etc, so will always be a need for artists especially in countries where lots of people have tattoos like America and BritainIrl networking with other artists, clients and can maybe get tattooed gf, patreon artist is stuck inside house all day and can only network with other coomers.Can actually be proud of the work you do unlike those forced to draw coom to make a living. Before anons say you don't have to draw coom to make a living. all I see is coom artists making it on patreon or pro concept artists.Some of the points also apply to traditional gallery artists. I think it's come full circle to where trad is again the most viable way to make it as an artist, although you can still do tattoo designs in digital so your skills would carry over. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7159732>>Is a scalable business>No, most of the time not.How does it usually work? Is it like a salon where someone rents their space or are artists usually salaried employees? Is it commission based?
>>7160316(o_O) ...... That's a pretty crazy story anon, I wouldn't tattoo on or near someones vagina, penis, anus.... bewbs is about as far as I'd go, I hate piercings so I'd avoid that risk.Sounds like if I just wear gloves and don't tattoo where you tattoo I'll be ok>>7160286These are cool anon, do you buy clearance meat for practice or do butchers give you bits they would throw away for free?>>7160371from what I was reading the owner rents out the chairs. Depending on shop they charge like 50/50 on artist earnings or they charge a flat rate i.e $1000 per month. Seems like the shop owners earn more if they go 50/50 and if the artist is good and brings in lots of money they seem to negotiate up to 65/35
>>7159254Because most tattoo artists work and here we are a bunch of unemployed looses
>>7160581you're assuming you're going to have enough work to pick and choose. you won't
>>7159254I pursued this for a while. Realized after about 6months that most people who get tattoos are retarded weed smokers. There's some genuinely great tattoo artists out there and I have mad respect for the craft but there's no fucking way I can listen to druggies bitch and moan all day with the health dept breathing down my neck. Might have stuck it out if I lived in a state with less occupational licensing.
What's your preferred canvas size?
>>715969624inches by 18inches
>>7159696also 2000 x 2000, but that's just because I like the room for putting all my references on the canvas itself instead of using the reference tab
>>715969632x32 is the best
34in x 24in x 34in
I just use the default A4 on Krita.
How many anons here are actually "classically" or "fomally" trained in an academy or by a teacher who belongs to a noble lineage of art? I see so many insanely skilled painters here, who just drop their art in the draw thread and never give advice or reply to any other anons, and it makes me feel like they have access to knowledge that the rest of his don't have. The video courses, artbooks, and advice given in the various stickies of the generals here don't even seem to be able to help a day 0 beginner cross the bridge towards the high quality stuff I see those anons producing.I don't know. How important is it, in your view, to just go and subscribe to a school like Watts Atelier for 2 years and to just not come back to /ic/ until you're really skilled? For those of you who are really skilled, how did you get there?
>>7158625>brent evistonIs he really that good? I have an instinctive revulsion towards him because some anon kept shilling him for 2 years, but I'm open to changing my mind. If possible, could you post your work? (just a sketch is fine) What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
>>7158551I'm not sure an "art institute" counts as formal training because it's useless and I ended up teaching myself 99.9% of the time off books.I heard similar stories from others, including people that went to art college so it's not just bad luck.Nowadays they're more interested in making money than filtering or expelling bad artists so you end up with self-taught artists as graduates.
>>7158636>What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?>NTANo way in hell he's better than Loomis or Huston (or Vilppu-sama) Don't get me wrong, he's good, really good but not that good, those 3 are literal art Gods.
>>7158636>>7158680There's a pantheon of Art Gods that teach and Vilppu is the numba one by far, not a single other artist, not even Watts can come close to our lord and savior.
>>7158682Based
Join artists from all over the world in the Drawpile, the Premiere Cross-Board Collaborative Drawing Event. A 9500 x 9500 pixel shared canvas awaits!Drawpile Software: drawpile.net/downloadSession URL: sigmatelier.asperger.proServer is accessible 24/7A growing amount of sporadic activity can be found throughout most weekdays, official meetup starts Sundays at 5pm CST. Hope to see you there!Be conscious of the canvas size and considerate of others with the size of your own drawings, make note of your own monitor resolution and magnification. Try to stick to 100-200% magnification-or even higher depending on your native resolution and the relative complexity of your intended work. Read the room, let's try and get the most out of each theme!Canvas images posted to the thread are .jpg files at 70% scale and 40% quality to meet 4chan's resolution and file size requirements.For high quality raw .png canvas files, use the MEGA archive here: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNA
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The canvas has been cleared, the MEGA folder has been updated. Thanks for joining! See you again soon
New theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1sTF8Z5kUg
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pyw
>>7159593blog? really cool
>>7160275>>7160161thank youI recorded the first few hours of me drawing it, thought it'd be cool to post the sped up video but the file was too heavy for 4chinzhttps://files.catbox.moe/3hcj3w.mp4
>>7160161Thanks anon, very nice work on yours as well (great tits).>>7160456Thank you anon, it's https://www.twitter.com/kalidibus
feel like she should have a gun
>>7153674
long story short hire a artist for a commercial work told not upload anything online till the official release and the fucktard post shit on patreon and gets pissed when I chargeback.
>>7155846Learn to prompt. Don't waste time with artists.
What you need to do is let people use their imaginations.Just draw a simple outline your subject, and one's imagination will fill in the rest.This is an example of the NYC Skyline. If you squint, you can see the Statue of Liberty.
>>7155846That's prob more to do with people with no work ethic/everything is "fair use" crowd being employed>>7155861promptards are honestly are gonna do that more T B H. I swear I wouldn't trust a person who only experience was prompting before anything prior to not fuck up in some wayThough you prob need to am in group/studio who can be trusted more so than relying on randoms
>>7155861Learn to kill yourself. Don't waste our time.
I'd guess he thought Patreon wasn't public enough to count. You'd be surprised how quickly people think "Ehhh, I know I've been warned but THIS platform doesn't count" when handling sensitive content.I used to work for the aerospace industry , there was at least a data breach a week just because people thought "double ended encryption" meant you could just share classified shit on Whatsapp when the dedicated server didn't work fast enough.
Draw a clock in your art.Draw a clock with your character.Draw a clock with cocks. Draw a clock with art and I review you.
>>7158257thank you
>>7156547
>>7156656how is rightmost clock a conceptual deficit? it’s just a clock in perspective
>>7158184never say that word again. your age is showing
Does the quality of the watercolor paper and the quality of the paints matter that much if you're not one of those youtube moms that want to paint flowers?If you look at the youtube hobbyists they all talk about how important it is to use the best paper, the best paint, etc, but then you look at actual good artists like Huston or Frazetta and they're painting on scrapbook paper with mickey mouse watercolor paints.
>>7156569man i really hate watercolor. few people can make it look good, but it's so unforgiving and looks like crap most of the time. and you'll be spending $$$ on paper, just to practice. most of all i hate how you can't layer it.
>>7159532>how you can't layer it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tXxBOKORpkThere are limits, depending on the material and the technique, but layering washes is a common thing.
>>7159532>you can't layer itsee, that's you using the wrong paper
>>7159532>man i really hate watercolor. few people can make it look good, but it's so unforgivingthat's why it's goated. Get gud.PS:>picrel was probably the greatest advice I've ever got, and it's insane he condensed everything into one single page.
>>7156569>Does the quality of the watercolor paper Yes if you want to paint a lot of layers rather than working in a more sketchy style. Also if you use a lot of water, denser paper will buckle less. I would compromise on brushes and paints before paper. Also you at least need acid-free paper if you want your work to survive for a long period of time. >the quality of the paintsMatters less, but will make a difference for bright and strong hues. Don't use bottom-of-the-barrel ones, but decent mid-range ones will do quite well. Personally, I'd just get fewer colours of high quality, but I'm not broke. Again, if you want your wok to survive you at least want relatively lightfast pigments.
How do i draw juice thick women?
>>7159419feel the form
>>7159419All the knowledge i know so far
>>7159419Tummy + BOOBA + Thighs, Apply necessary thiccness to other limbs, feel the FORM
>>7159419Really would like to draw meaty bodys like him or Kunaboto. Would be nice to have a proportion guide / full body turn around to reference.
find pics you like, analyze what you like about them and copy that.
uhm I need criticizm. :p Ive been learning how to draw in the moe artstyle and this is my first artwork TELL WHAT I NEED 2 DO !!
>>7158991>watches oney plays>pretends to be zach hadel online>>7158876SWEET SOUL BROTHER
>>7158876You're GMI but you talk and draw like an underageThe hair flow on the right (her left) looks weird, it warps too much. Remember that hair flows from the scalp downwards, something like this.
>>7158876She needs a haircut.
>>7158876>this has more appeal than all of my workit’s over
why not posting on /beg? anyways its looking pretty good, one criticism would be that id like to be able to see her eyes. love the scene vibe though
HOW THE FUCK DO I DRAW HORSES
>>7153749Spider horse?
rider
>>7115287I like it a lot. Nice work anon.
looking in the distance
>>7115263Draw from life.
>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Recommended Resources:https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewLast Thread:>>7062670
For whatever reason, yellow-orange colours seem to me to be much more complex than others.At most I don't like the amount of extra strokes I make, books say do as little as possible, and here I'm moving the brush up and down thousands of times.
>>7146444Hey this is great, cheers anon.
Hola AmigosBeautiful work, everyone
https://youtube.com/shorts/CdkPkR_UxOY?si=IrI-eOt9-QDnRHbpI began working with multiple image generators, text to 3d, and image to 3d generators and just started playing around with blender. Before that I did AI short stories and was so inspired by the project I get into digital collage work. Check out my videos and tell me what yall think!
I suggest posting on another board lmao
>>7160506You have a lot of talent and potential, and should definitely experiment with physical media, there's lots of untapped mediums. Rope, for example.
https://www.deviantart.com/kozinaruchi/art/Lost-Brother-novel-coverart-1040299838
I hate anime
>>7159610coool
>>7159610OP anon, I will advise you to simply quit /ic/ for the next week. You're going to get shat on by every single crab, justified or not. A veritable deluge of pincers and snippity snap.
