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>complaining
edition

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/

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>>7160035
This one needs to be put down.
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>>7160273
Wut a qt
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>>7160273
cute drawing
if you dont mind me asking, are you using for the linework a brush with blending?
ive seen several artists draw with similar looking brushes and i cant tell if its just a normal opecity brush or its a blending/painting brush by how it seems to blend its strokes into the canvas
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>>7156718
Anon, can you draw a full model sheet of him?
It's for mine researches
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>>7160697
I've been meaning to for a while lol. Research is important though, I suppose

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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>dA /ic/ group :
http://4chan-ic.deviantart.com

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>General resources :
http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/
http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
http://characterdesigns.com/

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A couple of hours more thrown at this. Now I am stuffing it with cameos from all my works. Just to do it. Up close eyes and far away eyes:how to render them both succinctly and suggest depth, an ongoing challenge. I might try planning out the next one,but I wasn't having any luck with following my own advice, so I plunged in.
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Five days remaining to know if I made it or i'm done for good
I'm sincerely terrified at the thought of having to go back wageslaving
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>>7160192
>self imposed deadlines
>thinking this is healthy at all
brother, you have already made yourself a wageslave via imposing wageslave work ethics into your own self vision of self worth.
just draw mate.
do it for you before you can do it for others.
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>>7160163
Whoa this is nuts. Really cool!
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>>7156096
nice

Fantasy artwork was best when being made by coomers like Royo or Caldwell.

Now what fantasy art are you making anon?
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Keeping it alive!
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>>7155508
"innovating"

"create same face animu over and over again with different hairstyle"

OK
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>>7155184
Looks so good anon
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>>7154516
Why is slav folklore so much cooler than angloshit?
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>>7160696
Suffering and darkness. Suffering and darkness makes everything better.

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1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: For SFW content please go to the OC redraw threads.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

6: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.

7: Leave all the chit-chat out unless to thank drawfrens. Draw more and talk less.

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>>7159616
our knight friend learns that a wager for leggings or equine comes at a cost when she has neither to offer herself
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>>7159678
perfect for my interest
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>>7160005
Fuck you are great, that's really hot.
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name Lacy Lan
she sells ecchi custom figmas of her online as well as do onlyfans requests like cosplay dancing
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>>7157887
Gonna be honest, I don't know what machbanding or colour veining is so you're probably already a better artist than I am. My process is pretty simple though. I set up individuals layers for every aspect of the piece, e.g. hair, top, sclera, iris, lips etc., lay down some flat colours, and then I clip layers on top of them and paint on top, merging them once I become satisfied. I try to keep directional lighting in mind, and colour correct as I go.

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Why do people pretend like this?
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>>7159820
You always want to talk to an audience, even if you don't have one. It's incredibly demoralizing
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>>7159862
How is it demoralizing when you haven't even worked hard to get one?

Can you even justify being embarrassed if no one is there to witness?
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>>7159785
here's a drawing
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>>7160598
I SEE THAT MOAI
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>>7160687
mans has his priorities straight

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>Artist has posts having as high as 1k likes, while others are as low as 20 despite them all being the same in technical quality
How does this happen?
Pic unrel
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Some communities are hyper autistic and will like whatever you post as long as the right tag is on it. 90% of my engagment comes from accidentally pandering to said degenerates.
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>>7160233
As someone who does variety content, people are more likely to stick around if you cater to their niche. Whether it be a fetish or a franchise focus. It's less about ability and skill, but moreso about who you're appealing to. Algorithm aside.
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>>7160292
>why would anyone follow for some generic Makima pulling collar done a million times ?
>>7160247
That anon is right, you have to make something worth following.
I'm a Makima simp, and recently I followed an artist on Instagram because of her.
His version is not only well drawn but sexy since she's wearing a lingerie.
I'm not sure I'd follow your "friend" tho, his Makima is kinda meh.
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>>7160430
>THIS
People generally like consistency so you're better off niching down instead of trying to appeal to everyone.
I know a /beg/ that pull 1k+ likes every time they post because they're always drawing the same thing (RWBY lesbians)
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>>7160233
>TFW recent drawings of my OC perform just as well, if not better than my fotm fanart
It's both great and kinda weird.

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Why don't anons talk about this more? Isn't it one of the best ways to "make it"?

Less competition as only have your countrymen to compete with, or even just artists in your city.

Actually able to charge a fair amount because third worlders can't come over to tattoo your clients

Is a scalable business as you can open studios and hire other artists, has an exit strategy so when you get older the business will be able to run itself kind of like a barbershop. Coomer on patreon will stop earning money the second he drops drawing and be irrelevant, plus no pension etc

Won't be under threat from AI unlike digital or concept artist etc, so will always be a need for artists especially in countries where lots of people have tattoos like America and Britain

Irl networking with other artists, clients and can maybe get tattooed gf, patreon artist is stuck inside house all day and can only network with other coomers.

Can actually be proud of the work you do unlike those forced to draw coom to make a living. Before anons say you don't have to draw coom to make a living. all I see is coom artists making it on patreon or pro concept artists.

Some of the points also apply to traditional gallery artists. I think it's come full circle to where trad is again the most viable way to make it as an artist, although you can still do tattoo designs in digital so your skills would carry over.

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>>7159732
>>Is a scalable business
>No, most of the time not.
How does it usually work? Is it like a salon where someone rents their space or are artists usually salaried employees? Is it commission based?
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>>7160316
(o_O) ...... That's a pretty crazy story anon, I wouldn't tattoo on or near someones vagina, penis, anus.... bewbs is about as far as I'd go, I hate piercings so I'd avoid that risk.

Sounds like if I just wear gloves and don't tattoo where you tattoo I'll be ok

>>7160286
These are cool anon, do you buy clearance meat for practice or do butchers give you bits they would throw away for free?

>>7160371
from what I was reading the owner rents out the chairs. Depending on shop they charge like 50/50 on artist earnings or they charge a flat rate i.e $1000 per month. Seems like the shop owners earn more if they go 50/50 and if the artist is good and brings in lots of money they seem to negotiate up to 65/35
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>>7159254
Because most tattoo artists work and here we are a bunch of unemployed looses
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>>7160581
you're assuming you're going to have enough work to pick and choose. you won't
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>>7159254
I pursued this for a while. Realized after about 6months that most people who get tattoos are retarded weed smokers. There's some genuinely great tattoo artists out there and I have mad respect for the craft but there's no fucking way I can listen to druggies bitch and moan all day with the health dept breathing down my neck. Might have stuck it out if I lived in a state with less occupational licensing.

What's your preferred canvas size?
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>>7159696
24inches by 18inches
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>>7159696
also 2000 x 2000, but that's just because I like the room for putting all my references on the canvas itself instead of using the reference tab
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>>7159696
32x32 is the best
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34in x 24in x 34in
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I just use the default A4 on Krita.

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How many anons here are actually "classically" or "fomally" trained in an academy or by a teacher who belongs to a noble lineage of art? I see so many insanely skilled painters here, who just drop their art in the draw thread and never give advice or reply to any other anons, and it makes me feel like they have access to knowledge that the rest of his don't have. The video courses, artbooks, and advice given in the various stickies of the generals here don't even seem to be able to help a day 0 beginner cross the bridge towards the high quality stuff I see those anons producing.

I don't know. How important is it, in your view, to just go and subscribe to a school like Watts Atelier for 2 years and to just not come back to /ic/ until you're really skilled? For those of you who are really skilled, how did you get there?
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>>7158625
>brent eviston
Is he really that good? I have an instinctive revulsion towards him because some anon kept shilling him for 2 years, but I'm open to changing my mind. If possible, could you post your work? (just a sketch is fine) What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
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>>7158551
I'm not sure an "art institute" counts as formal training because it's useless and I ended up teaching myself 99.9% of the time off books.
I heard similar stories from others, including people that went to art college so it's not just bad luck.
Nowadays they're more interested in making money than filtering or expelling bad artists so you end up with self-taught artists as graduates.
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>>7158636
>What makes him so much better than other people like Loomis and Steve Huston?
>NTA
No way in hell he's better than Loomis or Huston (or Vilppu-sama)
Don't get me wrong, he's good, really good but not that good, those 3 are literal art Gods.
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>>7158680
There's a pantheon of Art Gods that teach and Vilppu is the numba one by far, not a single other artist, not even Watts can come close to our lord and savior.
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>>7158682
Based

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Am i doing any good progress?
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>>7160569
No

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Join artists from all over the world in the Drawpile, the Premiere Cross-Board Collaborative Drawing Event. A 9500 x 9500 pixel shared canvas awaits!

Drawpile Software: drawpile.net/download
Session URL: sigmatelier.asperger.pro

Server is accessible 24/7

A growing amount of sporadic activity can be found throughout most weekdays, official meetup starts Sundays at 5pm CST. Hope to see you there!

Be conscious of the canvas size and considerate of others with the size of your own drawings, make note of your own monitor resolution and magnification. Try to stick to 100-200% magnification-or even higher depending on your native resolution and the relative complexity of your intended work. Read the room, let's try and get the most out of each theme!

Canvas images posted to the thread are .jpg files at 70% scale and 40% quality to meet 4chan's resolution and file size requirements.

For high quality raw .png canvas files, use the MEGA archive here: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNA
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The canvas has been cleared, the MEGA folder has been updated. Thanks for joining! See you again soon
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New theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1sTF8Z5kUg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg8xmBgO208
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz1mXdMvaNk

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>>7159593
blog? really cool
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>>7160275
>>7160161
thank you
I recorded the first few hours of me drawing it, thought it'd be cool to post the sped up video but the file was too heavy for 4chinz
https://files.catbox.moe/3hcj3w.mp4
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>>7160161
Thanks anon, very nice work on yours as well (great tits).

>>7160456
Thank you anon, it's https://www.twitter.com/kalidibus
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feel like she should have a gun
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long story short hire a artist for a commercial work told not upload anything online till the official release and the fucktard post shit on patreon and gets pissed when I chargeback.
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>>7155846
Learn to prompt. Don't waste time with artists.
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What you need to do is let people use their imaginations.
Just draw a simple outline your subject, and one's imagination will fill in the rest.
This is an example of the NYC Skyline. If you squint, you can see the Statue of Liberty.
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>>7155846
That's prob more to do with people with no work ethic/everything is "fair use" crowd being employed
>>7155861
promptards are honestly are gonna do that more T B H. I swear I wouldn't trust a person who only experience was prompting before anything prior to not fuck up in some way
Though you prob need to am in group/studio who can be trusted more so than relying on randoms
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>>7155861
Learn to kill yourself. Don't waste our time.
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I'd guess he thought Patreon wasn't public enough to count. You'd be surprised how quickly people think "Ehhh, I know I've been warned but THIS platform doesn't count" when handling sensitive content.
I used to work for the aerospace industry , there was at least a data breach a week just because people thought "double ended encryption" meant you could just share classified shit on Whatsapp when the dedicated server didn't work fast enough.

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check archives and active /ic/ threads for references.

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>>7159556
can you explain your questions? Not sure I get what you're asking
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figure drawing class cancelled because the model is on the rag again
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>>7159600
They should just tell people to bring a red pencil, no need to cancel.
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>>7159028
I can't live with this kind of shame, I'm off to complete sudoku.
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Why do I be sucking so much shit?

Draw a clock in your art.
Draw a clock with your character.
Draw a clock with cocks.

Draw a clock with art and I review you.
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>>7158257
thank you
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>>7156656
how is rightmost clock a conceptual deficit? it’s just a clock in perspective
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>>7158184
never say that word again. your age is showing


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