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>Just Another proof Boxing(SUCKER PUNCH) is the best fighting technique
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>>189184
that's not a sucker punch though
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>>189184
There is not a single sucker punch in that webm.
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>>189184
all of those guys had knives if you pay attention btw
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>>189184
Not a sucker bro, get it right. Dude was squared up with him, full eye contact.
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>>189466
This dude's a cunt. The other guys are deescalated as fuck, and he literally turns his back on them, and then proceeds to make a 180 turn just to elevate a regular sucker punch into a SUPER sucker punch.

I mean, if he had simply punched them while he was yelling in their face, that would have been bad enough, but he turned his back just to make it even LESS telegraphed? What kind of sociopathic shit is that lmao

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Did Dagestanis debunk striking?
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>>187963
>Khabib was going toe to toe with Connor on the feet for example
I think it debunked advanced striking. I believe Conor practiced striking more than Khabib and he looks like a better striker on paper but a haymaker to his face hurts him just like it hurts a mere mortal. Same with Adesanya vs Strickland. Izzy was a kickboxing champion and lost to a guy who ordinarily punched his face and kicked his belly. On the other hand, Jones' advanced striking always worked, even against Gustafsson who was a good boxer.
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>>188049
I don't think it really debunked anything. I think fighting has a rock-paper-scissors-ish aspect to it, where some people can give you a lot of trouble because they're simply a bad matchup for you. The power scaling isn't linear, to put it one way
The Dagestanis are dangerous because they're all well-rounded and dangerous both as strikers and as wrestlers, meaning they can give the "bad matchup" to anyone
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>>187961
Most dagestanis fighters are "bred aristocracy" for wrestling style fighting, they are born and raised in an environment where you wrestle your whole youth with an effective military combat system while being in a high altitude environment the whole time.
That being said, that is the perfect match for strikers that are weaker at wrestling, prime example is khabib vs connor, they just wear them out and close the distance while not engaging fully to avoid getting ko'd.
That being said, a competent matchup like khabib vs gsp would result in GSP smoking khabib
Also account that most of those dagestanis with good winrates were usually paired up against strikers that get shat on when brought down
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>>187961
Not at all. They are on average, very hard men, their skill floor is higher than the average man from pretty much any other country. But their skill ceiling is the same, they aren't superhuman. Khabib and Islam are great because they are exceptionally gifted. Who else is as dominant as them, no one. The more the Caucasians fight, the more we see they're more or less on level with fighters from anywhere else.
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>>187961

If anything, they debunked BJJ. There was a time when BJJ was king in the cage but with the Dagestanis it's become clear that fence wrestling and folkstyle leg and wrist rides are far more effective. The smothering, hold-down style is really demoralizing and exhausting for anyone to contend with. High level fighters can't just rely on knowing some good submissions anymore.

Is this legit?
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>>192520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7cGii5mf-8
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>>190810
You're wrong about LINE. It's far removed from the MMA 101 shit they teach now and was much better suited for its intended purpose
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>>192945
The only people who think line is good are boomers who learned it in the 80s but never actually had to test it against people who do actual combat sports
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>>192946
Weird that you would attack a position that I didn't claim while knowing nothing about LINE and have doubtly ever competed in combat sports
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>>191207
>H2H in the AF SERE program is surprisingly serious for so short a course. But their instructors are not D.I. like army & marines. Their whole job is SERE. Fucking forest ninjas basically.
Can you tell me more about the SERE H2H instruction? I've never heard anybody talk about that part of the course before.

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Old thread: >>189605
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>>194460
it's 92A 55mm on ceramicish sideroad, i think i got used to shitty bearing so when the new one installed it just became too slippery to me, rn i changed it to the old bearing and it's better
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>>194365
>>194324

hell yeah, just bought a deck, wheel and bearings. Good looking out fellas
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>>194325
It's Jessup, says it right on there
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>>194606
Someone order some and tell me if its as good as normal jessup
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>>191222
new thread >>194733

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what does this mean here
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>>190027
The boxes would probably fall apart I bet
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>>190001
He was a dan-holding Kyo black belt before he ever startes wrestle.
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>>190025
KOTS doesn't "prove" anything
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>>188505
How do you mean boxing is unfavored when they use gloves and handwraps?
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>>188222
>karate
>no Bas Rutten
>no GSP
>no Lyoto
>no Iceman
Whoever made this chart hasn’t watched a fight before 2019.

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What do you think of Chael Sonnen?
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>>189715
The reflection of perfection
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ANDERSON SILVA, YOU ABSOLUTELY SUCK
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>>189727
Decisions are bullshit. Should go into overtime
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Tito tapped
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>>189727
>>192949
If you spend 24 minutes sitting on top of a dude raining down punches with impunity, and don’t somehow find a way to get subbed in the last minute, then as far as I’m concerned you won.

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How dangerous is head squish by a very strong man? Would it work in a real fight?
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>>188283
>lol, maybe if you're playing with the KO'd body
What if someone is mostly immobile due to being on the bottom?
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>>188275
If a man strong enough to crush your head like that gets his hands on your in a fight, he has many options that are much simpler than squeezing your skull until it pops. I'm sure it's possible, it just isn't very practical.
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>>188278
How are you so bad? Ass
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>>188288
> I'm sure it's possible
Why?
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>>188275
surprising this womans man hands werent' the ones that did him in

Terrified of heights but I'm going to force myself to go skydiving next year. Convince me I won't die.
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>>180291
What's swooping? Is that birds flying into you? Do skydivers ever die from birdstrikes?
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>>180477
Whatever tickles your pickle, ya meathead.
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>>191834
swooping is basically initiating a turn low to the ground to gain as much speed as possible before pulling up. If you do it right you can go 40-105mph across the ground

If you do it wrong you can do 40-95mph into the ground

video here:https://youtu.be/zJf_ZL5nPuc?t=44
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Any fun jumpers in here? Any good boogies coming up?
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>>188148
lmao the dude who crashed the hot air balloon high as fuck on ketamine

Did we jump timelines again? How the fuck is this actually happening? Am I being fucking bamboozled?
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>>190538
>>>/vt/
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>>191098
Yes...and no decision either. KO or go home...
Just as an aside, tyson fought with 18oz gloves for most of his professional career. So 16s ain't shit.
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>>190538
they will dance around each other like a couple of fuckin fairies for 10 rounds then collect their fat checks. No one will get knocked out. Jake Paul will continue to be a twat. the end.
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>>190538
>Jake Paul
This guy is low IQ and has a hair lip right?
I'm not the only one that notices this, right?
Guy seems like a righteous retard, although not as half as bad of a scammer as his brother.
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>>191451
You say this like I’m gone going to pirate it like every other fight lol

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Was thinking about Strickland’s remarks about Road House being accurate in that 90% of fighters wind up as bouncers after their career has finished. What /xs/ sport career has the best base for post retirement
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This thread has also been made in mind that it seems most MMA fighters have a shitty afterthought of a career post-retirement. That Jake Shields has to resort to posting Holocaust denial for Twitter engagement for money just tells me how desperate things must be after it’s over. Francis was right to go for the bag
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Colbozo btfo
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>>192953
He's very wise to go for the bag. He was elderly and aging. Should have just retired after that fury fight and left boxing fans buttflustered for years to come. But hindsight is a bitch

>>192952


Coaching?
Open you own gym?

I've noticed a lot of nobodies get picked up to coach specifics like striking or grappling. As long as they had one or two ammy fights they will be in demand. don't know what the pay is like though, I imagine not much.
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>>192990
>going after the bag
Ultimately, though there’s some joy in seeing Dana getting btfo and asshurt over it, Francis was completely right as an independent fighter to chase after fights with more money and those so happened to be outside of MMA.
You’ll look back on his career and wonder what the fuss was about (he really didn’t have that many at UFC level) but he made the right decision for himself in the long run.
>should have retired after Fury
I disagree with this and desu I thought pursuing AJ was a very smart move. Especially the £20m payday he got from it. He could’ve fought a comatose bum like Hellenius for an easier fight. The way AJ exposed him will be interesting to see who he matches up against next
>coaching etc
This seems to be it but the pay must actually suck unless you’re training with elite talent. Though even that is an unknown in terms of what they pay these people to spar. MMA just seems more depressing after retirement. Plus most retire younger than most boxers (who seem to go on for longer despite the damage done)

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No Flow Edition:
Discuss the times you slowed down to scope out a line, then realized you needed a lot of speed to hit anything.

FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway:
> What good bike can I get for under $500?
>a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.
> What good bike can I get for under $1000
Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $2000?
New Hardtail, decent used full suspension
> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/
Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.
> What are the excellent value brands?
Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike

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>>192910
>He fell for the warranty Jew
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>>192910
>I guess this is what I get for oopgrading
No, this is what happens when you don't ask for shit here before swiping the card.
>>fork still broken
Probably its csu creak, you could've asked and locktite would've been the solution given
>>new MTX pads vibrating like crazy after bedding in
You can ask here and you'd have been told to put mastic tape on the calliper, or just stick to shimano pads. If sram, changing brakes to something that brakes helps
>>$40 replacement hanger doesn't even fit correctly
You could've made a greentext post about the bent hanger and we probably would've told you to use hammer or a wrench to bend it back, fixing your problem
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>>180616
Bumping dead thread by saying you most certainly can buy a good, used mountain bike for under 500. I bought a cube analog 2012 ltd for £180 a few years ago. Probably just before covid.
https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/mountain-bikes/cube-analog-29-review
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>>192924
>csu creak
That comes later. It was brand new with a massive air leak into the lowers. Warrantied it in case it was the chamber/shaft itself and turns out it must be since they just did an air spring service and didn't bother to test it right
>bend it back
Indexing still feels off, I'll take a file to the new one next
>mastic tape on the caliper
Where? There are no fins rattling around, instead it feels like the rotor is super warped. maybe it is, haven't looked into this one yet
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>>193041
New mtb season, new thread

(Japanese Kickboxing)
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>>192677
Sometimes you just have to bang,I don't remember but there's a dutch kickboxing drill where you go head to head and spar in just that range without clinching. Also work your borxing bro
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>>192421
You’ve put me down a rabbit hole thanks for these, I’m starting to get these videos from Rizin and Breaking Down which are pure kino
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>>192718

i mean the range where I can see what my opponent is doing so I can guard, slip, parry, is much more comfortable for me. And how do they just let each other into range like that?
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>>192744
meant for>>192680
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>>192718
If you want to keep delving, I can also recommend KNOCK OUT
https://youtube.com/@KNOCKOUT_KB

They have some absolutely kino fights as well. One of their more popular guys is Ryusei who is very fun if you like cool technique combined with just being a little retarded sometimes.

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In terms of knock out power and versatility in a fight, which one is superior? A palm strike or a punch?
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>>192537
And looks like he hasn't trained or worked out a day in his life.
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>>192456
>if you kick with your shin you will break your leg
Somebody tell Thailand
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>>192433
Depends on if you have gloves or not. I could teach you to effectively palm strike in a few days. It would take a year for you to be an effective puncher. Punches easily are more versatile. Knock outs require precision which also favors the punch.
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>knock out power and versatility
punches by far
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>>192868
This. If palms were actually stronger than punches everyone would use them all the time. The only advantage a palm strike has is that it’s less likely to break your hand.

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Even taekwondo is better than sambo, catch wrestling, glima, sanda and lethwei

If there's no gym that teaches a martial art anywhere near you, it's not a good martial art for you. There's much higher chance your town has karate, taekwondo, bjj, judo, aikido, boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, krav maga or even slightly obscure things like freestyle or Greco Roman wrestling, kung fu or Filipino martial arts than some local stuff nobody knows outside of the country of origin. A wimpy art you can train is better than a good art you can't train.
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>>190164
>watch almost any MMA match and see BJJ techniques
Yeah, the absolute simplest shit that children can recreate through basic mimicry. For any BJJ submission there is pretty much always an analog pathway to it via wrestling.
>gloves make subs way harder
Outing yourself as a larper dude. MMA gloves are open palm & there are ways to wrap hands that don't hinder grip at all. Anyone who uses this line 100% has never had their hands wrapped for MMA & has never used MMA gloves. This is total bullshit.
>>190199
Not that headbutts have anything really to do with grappling or are unique to wrestling, but yes, there have been many changes since the beginning that have served to artificially make submission grappling safer.
>>190196
>>190152
Theres a lot that would fuck up grappling, but that doesn't negate the need to have a grapple game. If you're gonna get into some hypothetical self-defense debate, let me cut you off, because wrestling would still be great for moments when grappling is appropriate. But in self defense situations, Judo might be king. No one is pulling guard on concrete or asphault so BJJ is totally useless at this point.
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>>190213
Larping. Remove gloves and you would see even more RNC. Any retard can tell it's harder to snake your hand around someone's chin with a glove on. Try it yourself. Fucking retard.

You also ignored getting reset by rounds. A grappler can fight to a dominant position and sub for an entire round and then have it reset, completely bailing out the striker.
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Keep your doing your gay "brazilian jizz juggling"with your fellow plebs.

I exclusively train in Wallachian toe-grappling.

Elite martial art.

Can't find it? Not my problem.

Few.
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*slams u on the ground*
*puts u to sleep*
*snaps ur arm in half (twice)*
heh, nothing personnell, bjj-bro...
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>>189193
Senegalese wrestling is rarer than every martial art you mentioned, yet a Senegalese wrestler beat a BJJ hall-of-famer.

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after analisys of over 300hours of video it was found that 96% of fights are only punching in the face/head

learning boxing is the most important skill for self defense

do not let anyone get close to you either, if you lose control of the distance atack first.
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>>190835
>be bigger, stronger, fitter
Unironically invites trouble from people that want to proce something, specially with alcohol inbolved.
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>>190829
I didn't think anyone takes "self defence styles" seriously
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>>190827
>96% of fights are only punching in the face/head
You could have asked us instead of wasting 300 fucking hours. Everybody know that.
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>>190829
Just STFU retarded macaco.
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>>190832
The only real martial art is getting a gun license or other means of real self defence, everything else, from boxing to judo to mma is a sport that has about as much carryover to self defence as bodybuilding or rowing or tennis.
Actually even less carryover because it teaches you tunnel vision in a fight.


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