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Opinion on the Seed Freedom english cast?
https://twitter.com/bnfw_en/status/1783934072877621382/photo/1

Amalee? Isn't she a youtuber or something?
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I miss the original dub cast.
>>22601089
>Spoiler text
she's known more as that but she actually has being doing dub for very damn long https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmaLee
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>>22601089
WHERE THE FUCK ARE ED AND DOUBLE D
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>>22601089
Where are the ed boys? Inb4 angry ass weeaboo
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>>22601102
>>22601108
No more Ocean cast for Gundam. Even Origins, Cucuruz Doan's Island, and Hathaway didn't bring back Brad Swaile as Amuro.
>>22601095
Yeah, she was Marin in My Dress Up Darling.
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>>22601095
>>22601102
>>22601108


Not English Gundam SEED without Hill, Chantel and Vincent
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>>22601124
It's so much better without them.

Those fucking Lacus' songs were HORRENDOUS
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I'm not surprised it's the NYAV cast. Though, Shinn has a different actor. It was Aaron Phillips in Destiny.
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>>22601122
>didnt bring back brad
Well shit, i really enjoyed him in that role.
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>>22601135
It was one line and absolutely idiotic to think they would. It doesn't hurt anything.
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>>22601122
>didn't bring back Brad Swaile
ONE FUCKING JOOOOOOOOOOOOB
Although I prefer the original, Silverstein doesn't do a bad Char
I get that it's simply how these things work here in Clapistan, but fuck me man, it'll never sound right otherwise.
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Gundam Seed was massively popular in my country. They went all out and brought back the entire original dub cast for the movie. I was shocked to see Cagalli's old VA returning considering she retired like 20 years ago. I didn't even realize she was still alive. That's just how much of an impact Gundam Seed had on my generation I guess
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>>22601129
think the VA for the songs was a different person
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>>22601151
What country are you from?
>>22601152
It was. Jillian Michaels (Shippo from Inuyasa) was Lacus' singing voice in the Ocean dub.
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>Shinn's recast already
That's amusing as fuck.

The fact its the remaster cast and we don't if we're getting the dub at all in Canada is funny as fuck too. It shows how bad this shitshow is, combined with Sheh's comments with ANN.

>>22601122
To be honest, I don't want any more early UC stuff with the original 0079 dub cast since Kopsa passed away but the fact that nobody was even approached about role reprisals, let alone voice cameos alone, will never not piss me off. Shit's just disrespectful IMO.

>>22601156
Michaels was also Canadian pre-Buu Gohan and Goten too.
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>>22601160
>we don't if we're getting the dub at all in Canada
It's a shitshow, they're only showing the movie in theatres for one day in Canada and two days in the US. A while back when early ticket sales opened up, I was more or less sure all of the theatre viewings around me said English sub only.

>Sheh's comments with ANN
I'm not familiar with that, got a link?
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>>22601156
>What country are you from
Not telling, but I'll give you a hint. It's in Southeast Asia
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>>22601160
I always forget that Ocean did their own Cell and Buu saga dubs for Canada, even after Funimation did their own in the US, and that it used music from the Ruby Spears Mega Man cartoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9UysXFMWmw
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>>22601166
https://archive.is/FDmOx

>It's so surreal for us because recording this series was like a fever dream. We did all 98 episodes in a few months, and it wasn't released right away,” said Sheh. “It was really hard to gauge how production was. Although I was told the show is really popular, I had no real sense of it.”

For context: The redub was announced in mid-2017 with the initial cast being announced that December with it being likely they had the cast already done at that point. The BDs didn't release until Dec 2020.
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>>22601089
Here's your new Shinn bros https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN_94PZSBqs
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>>22601182
>born in 1998
Christ he was not even 6 years old when Destiny aired
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>>22601129
Have you heard the way they pronounce Lacus in this version
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>>22601182
I think he sounds fine. I haven't heard Shinn's actor in NYAV Destiny. I liked Matthew Erickson in Dynasty Warriors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xid-z0aY-Y
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>>22601186
Feeling old? Or do you need a voice actor for a 16 year old kid to be at least 25?
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>>22601198
He was always great in Destiny and the games, helps he's a Mecha veteran as he was also in Zoids and Betterman. The Remaster guy was horrible, he had the type of deep voice where your throat feels itchy hearing him and his screams were awful, literally ruins Shinn's more iconic scenes.
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>>22601203
He was Amuro in Zeta and did a decent take, albeit radically different if you were expecting something similar to Swaile's Amuro.

Especially obvious in Zeta vs since you'll go from one to another.
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>>22601201
Suzumura was 30 years old when he voiced Shinn , Erickson was 26, Phillips was in his 30s
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>>22601178
Why are you posting an archive link? The ANN page is still there.
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Did Seed Destiny run back-to-back with Seed on Toonami?
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>>22601222
Never aired on North American tv, Seed was the last show until Gundam 00 aired on Scifi. Destiny aired in Canada though on Teletoon I think.
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>>22601227
I think it was YTV actually.
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>>22601227
>>22601234
It aired on YTV in the Bionix (?) block back in 2006~07.

>It was so many years ago that the dub can drive
God I feel ancient now
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>>22601237
>>22601234
Is there a list of anime that aired on YTV that I can check?

I know Toonami had Wing, '79, 08th MS, G, Stardust Memory, 0080, CCA, and Seed. And New Toonami has gotten IBO, Unicorn and The Origin.
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Speaking of old voice actors that we will never hear ever again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZjSxRCiqg
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>>22601240
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bionix_(TV_programming_block)
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>>22601243
Kirby Morrow died, so no Trowa anymore ever.
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>>22601243
Maybe for the best. Blue Water was an anti-union scab company. Dunno if any of their talent did VAing again after Ocean went bust.
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>>22601249
I didnt know that, he had a smooth as voice.
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>>22601250
Ocean still exists. They just do a shit tone more pre-lay stuff these days. Most Blue Water does these days is whatever Bushiroad sends them since they're basically Ocean/Chinook's budget studio.
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>>22601089
I don't recognize any of these names.

I thought "Stephanie Sheh" sounded familiar, but when I looked her up, nope, not familiar.
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>>22601266
Dude, she's Orihime AND Hinata.
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>>22601266
You're either ancient, or too young to be here. Sheh's a 90's-00's vet.
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>>22601269
I know her more as Eureka than those two.
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>>22601266
>Hinata from Naruto
>Orihime from Bleach
>Sailor Moon (Viz dub)
>Yui from K-On
>Mineva from Gundam Unicorn
>Mikuru from Haruhi Suzumiya
None of these sound familiar to you?
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>>22601124
>>22601102
Matt Hill is on Cameo, you could probably get him to dub all of Kira’s movie lines for spare change.
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>>22601276
I would expect the dude to respond "LOL you watch dubs you fucking anime rapist", but this is a dub thread so I got no idea why he'd post here.
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>>22601276
>Mikuru from Haruhi Suzumiya
Huh i never noticed it back then.
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>>22601281
Not like Mikuru has any room to show talent. The entire role was probably struggling to keep a moe-esque tone. At least Hinata and Eureka are able to show humanity, and Orihime was pretty diverse until she became "KUROSAKI-KUN" 24/7.
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>>22601283
She was also Tharja in Fire Emblem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppuErsh1Zg
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>>22601286
I don't really count FE13 and 14 as significant venues for VAs, since it's all voiceclips and not anything really significant like Persona or Coldsteel.
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>>22601291
Since you mentioned Persona. Here's Kira and Cagalli.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNEY8US8AAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fuhVUewQYQ
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I'm fairly neutral on dubs, but a big part of SEED's charm is it's big name, all-star voice cast. So, watching it dubbed just doesn't seem like a fun option to me.

I am sorta nostalgic for the old Ocean Group SEED dub. Surfer dude-sounding Kira and surprisingly awesome Rau always stick out to me.
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Do not reply to the tripfag.
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>>22601346
Im just grateful /m/ has a small community so it is a small list of tripfags to filter.
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>>22601089
>No Ed or Double D again
As I said with the SEED remaster. Pass
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Are SEED's old actors even around anymore? Matt Hill isn't active in dubbing anymore and Murrue's isn't either.
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>>22601405
The only Ocean talent I see anymore is Brian Drummond.
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>>22601405
Trevor Devall (Mu's Ocean actor) still does voice acting in LA. Don't know if he still does anime though.
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>>22601089
Well people take issue on this. What about the rest of the cast? Sure, the NYAV Post cast is now just 98% of it because people did not like Remaster Shinn's dub voice, but it doesn't change the fact that English dubs are insistent on using "fresh talent" every time, leaving little to no opportunities for older talent to return, even if cast as someone else. For one matter, Michael Adamthwaite, now known under his new stage name Mark P. Whitten, is still highly active to this day and keeping up with these new talent, but people would still want him as Yzak, which may not happen here.
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>>22601442
Wasn't he only Yzak in SEED, and Swaile did it and Dearka in Destiny?
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>>22601442
>English dubs are insistent on using "fresh talent" every time, leaving little to no opportunities for older talent to return
I wouldn't call Sheh, Rachael Lillis, Tara Platt, Keith Silverstein, and Liam O'Brien "new talent". And that's just the ones I can remember as being veterans casted for Unicorn and The Origin.
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>>22601519
*fresh talent. Fuck.
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>>22601201
No just feeling old. I don't like being reminded that there are now grown adults that were kids or not even born yet when I was a teenager.
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>>22601291
She was also Estelle in Trails, which originally was just battle voice clips, but she did actually return when Estelle came back at the end of Cold Steel in a major voiced capacity.
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>>22601405
>>22601413
You don't hear much from them anymore because there's nothing for them to work on anymore. Since the 00s recession, all anime dubs moving south, Bandai US shutting down, Canadian cartoons not getting made anymore and MLP over, what are they suppose to voice?
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>>22601660
What's been airing on YTV these days?
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>>22601683
Nick and Nelvana shit
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Not Seed related, but still a dub matter: Just found out that Guel in G-Witch isn't Matt Mercer. It's some relative new blood called Bradley Gareth who's doing a good impression of Matt Mercer.
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>>22602296
Why would anyone think it was Mercer when it's been known for almost a year that the guy wasn't voicing the character? Are you just that stupid?
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>>22601321
Surfer Kira was always funny to me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HX5SIEXIOo
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>>22602506
Take your meds.
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>>22602318
Gundaminfo doesn't dub the credits. How was I supposed to figure out the dub cast?
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>>22601089
Max Mittleman? For real?
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>>22603187
Do you have an issue with him?
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>>22603261
They were making a joke. Max Mittelman also voiced Ryuji in Persona 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZmsy1k1_t0
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>>22603265
I've never played Persona. I hate emulating non-Nintendo and I can't find any Youtube playthroughs for Persona 3.
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>>22603453
Persona 5 Royal is on Switch.
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>>22603474
I can't play Persona 5. Not until I've played all of Persona 3 and 4.
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>>22603490
You don't have to. They're each their own story with very little continuity with each other. That's like saying you can't watch Gundam 00 without watching MS Team first.
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>>22603505
A lot of the word of mouth I've heard about Gundam IBO is that you won't be able to understand it unless you've seen Gundam 00. Generally a lot of the reason I enjoyed Gundam Wing was because it didn't do any of the stupid shit that Zeta and Victory took way too much joy in.
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>>22603574
What morons told you that? And why did you believe them?
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>>22603574
You're listening to some very stupid people.
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>>22601089
>dubshit
Go back
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>>22603802
Wow. It only took 83 replies.
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>>22602296
Mercer started doing an impression of Baker and now this guy is doing impressions of Mercer. We've gone full circle.
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>>22603157
Check any news site? You act like it's a chore to find out simple information
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>>22603860
Motherfucker's here don't even want to link to ANN. There's no hope for these people.
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>>22601089
not diverse enough
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>>22601266
I dont even watch dubs but I know her
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>>22603851
More like the circle is still going. Remember that Baker exists to do Nolan North impressions.
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Gonna start watching Seed. Hope Aniwave still has the old dub saved.
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Watched episode 1. The dub I'm watching sounds too good in terms of audio quality for what I expect. Are there any sure tells for which dub I'd be watching?
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>>22601089
I know Max Mittlemen from World of Warcraft can make a really inspiring heroic performance. I'm thinking of Prince Farondis from the Aszuna questline. I don't recall anything memorable the other VAs have done.
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>>22609799
Ocean Group Rau sounds vaguely British. Ocean Group Arthur is aggressively British.
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>>22609806
I mentioned some of Stephanie Sheh's characters here. >>22601276 but, for the rest:
>Chris Hackney: Basara from Testament of Sister New Devil, Ghiaccio from Jojo Part 5, Dimitri from Fire Emblem: Three Houses
>Cherami Leigh: Lucy from Fairy Tail, Asuna from Sword Art Online, Makoto from Persona 5, Sailor Venus (Viz Dub), Red Blood Cell from Cells at Work
>Kieran Regan: Shikanoin Heizou from Genshin Impact, Twnety Fifth Bam and Jue Viole Grace from Tower of God: New World, Yusei from AMAIM
>Alyson Leigh Rosenfield: Bonnie from Pokémon X and Y, Fraw from Gundam: The Origin, Sayaka from Mazinger Z Infinity
>Kelly Baskin: Amber from Genshin Impact, Kirin from Gunvolt
>Ben Balmaceda: Neku from The World Ends with You: The Animation
>Lizzie Freeman: Chizuru from Rent-A-Girlfriend
>Alejandro Saab: Yukimura from Science Fell in Love (Replacing Billy Kametz), Akihiko from Persona 3: Reload, Shadiq from Witch from Mercury
>Zeno Robinson: Hawks from My Hero Academia, Junpei from Persona 3: Reload
>Amanda Lee: Marin from My Dress Up Darling
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are the compilation movies okay for a recap? i don't think i'll be able to watch all 100 episodes of gundam before it shows up in my country on tuesday
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>>22609887
Lizzie Freeman: Chizuru from Rent-A-Girlfriend
That's probably the least notable role you could've mentioned she has with her last five years of lightning progress.
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>>22609888
OH MY GOD, you already made a thread about this over a week ago. Just watch the show already and stop asking other people what to do.
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>>22609900
I can't believe I forgot she was Trish in Jojo Part 5, despite remembering Hackney's character.
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>>22601089
They don't look anything like their characters. This is some Netflix tier garbage
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>>22609926
This isn't a live action movie.
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>>22601089
why would we give a fuck about trash


>Amalee? Isn't she a youtuber or something?
same bitch who makes a shitton of covers and was dub Kitagawa
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>>22603574
Gundam 00 and IBO are literal opposites. 00 is about humans coming together and beamspam, IBO is about humans being tools and physical weapons/ammo.
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>>22610143
I heard Mikazuki was a remix of Setsuna.
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>>22609752
speaking of sites anyone remember the one that one anon said that had the OG versions of SEED and Destiny?
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Downloaded a Tri-audio from Nyaa. I probably need to listen to the redub regularly to stay sane hearing the female voice performances, especially when NYAV managed to hook some of my favorites for Ramius, Badgiruel and Miriallia.
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>>22610155
Aside from being quiet, they're nothing alike. Setsuna is a boy who lost faith in God and replaced it with Gundam due to O Gundam saving his life. He wants to change the world due to how he grew up. Mikazuki is a boy who follows whatever Orga says to a T to the point that Orga sometimes seems afraid of him. He isn't about changing the world or the bigger picture. Just changing his current life and circumstances. 00 and IBO are two completely separate stories with little in common.
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>NYAV pronounced Lacus as "La-koose"
Oh for Kira's sake...
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>>22611479
How did the Ocean dub pronounce her name?
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>>22611482
"Lah-kis". Like a human would.
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AmaLee is fine as fuck tho ngl
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>>22601089
I just booked a ticket for me and my dad, but after how embarassing it was to bring him to Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel part 1's English dub, I'm not doing that again so I bought two subbed tickets. Hope there isn't anything visually embarrassing. I typically bring him to see Ghibli and Shinkai movies.
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tadoritsuku basho sae mo wakaranai
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Watching Seed is the weirdest experience I've ever had. I keep rotating it between Ocean and NYAV and occasionally turning on subtitels for spelling clarity, and just going full JP anytime Lacus starts singing.
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"CGUE" is not a word, Gundam. No wonder Ocean just spells it "Sci-goo".
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>>22601421
He mainly does anime now because he records from his home studio now.
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>>22609747
North-Baker-Mercer-Jonah Scott/Bradley Garreth
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Going to see the movie this Tuesday.
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The Toonzone recaps are amazing.
>"Dearka, Yzak, and Nichol, (aka the 'other guys' with Gundams) still have no idea how to combine their GundamZords together, so they attack Kira to force the info out of him. Athrun, meanwhile, prepares to welcome [Lacus's] new baby by making hundreds of Haros that take over the ZAFT vessel. Murrue, who's starting to wish she were a giant floating head right about now, has a decision to make, as Flay snaps and goes on a maniacal killing spree, starting with a little kid named Justin..."
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>>22601442
A big chunk of the ocean actors do work in America.
Matt Hill,Trevor Devall, Brian Drummond, Mark Oliver, Micheal Adamthwaite, Brad Swaile, Michael Daingerfield, Saffron Henderson , Andrew Francis, Scott Mcneil, Venus Terzo, Brenna O'Brien, and to top it off Lisa Ann Beley lives 4 hours from NYC.
>>22601519
Unicorn was over a decade ago.
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>>22601089
Jesus American voice actors are so unappealing to look at, I would only fuck Cherami and Lizzie out of this whole lot.
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>>22616078
>Unicorn was over a decade ago.
Does this change my point?
Also I forgot to mention Steve Staley, who played Shiro in 08th MS back in 2001.
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>>22613565
Have fun!
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>>22610511
The site is animegg, if i'm right.
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Aniwave and my Nyaa torrent are missing the recap episodes. Where can I find them?
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>>22616180
>Does this change my point?
It does, alot of the unicorn era dub VA's are no longer frequently in anime or being phased out over race.
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>>22616180
He was also Banagher, Seabook, and McGillis.
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>>22601089
I wish I was rich enough to recast the entire old original dub. Everyone was great. Kira, Athrun, Mu, Murrue, Cagali, and especially Lacus were perfect.
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I keep swapping back between Ocean and NYAV anytime there's a scene between Patrick Zala and Siegel Clyne. Goddammit Sabat I don't need to hear you everywhere.
Ironically, Zala's NYAV VA was 4kids Zoro.
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>>22616722
I brought up Staley specifically because he voices Banagher.

>>22616720
>being phased out over race.
It's been proven that's not happening. Otherwise we wouldn't have had that giant shitstorm with Wendee Lee.
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>>22616955
NTA, but weren't some people upset about Suletta's dub actress not matching her skin tone too?
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>>22616957
That's on them for thinking tanukis are a race rather than an anime design.
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>>22616953
4kids zorro is best zorro, he also voiced guts from berserk btw.
>>22616955
>It's been proven that's not happening
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/22/21326824/white-voice-actors-black-characters-cartoons-whitewashing
and thats just one example, American voice over industry has been encouraging white voice actors to step down over race.
The Wendee Lee situation was literally an example of that, only difference being she stood up for herself and got her role back. Ironically same replacement was the main one bitching about sulletta. https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/02/03/western-voice-actors-accuse-crunchyroll-of-bigotry-for-casting-white-actress-as-suletta-in-english-dub-of-mobile-suit-gundam-the-witch-from-mercury/
Genuinely curious how you think we it isn't happening.
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>>22617337
Ah, yes, boundingintocomics, such a reputable site. Hah!
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>>22601222
Nope, Gundam pretty much died in the US after SEED and we never got Destiny unless you wanted to buy some expensive DVDs. It wasn't necessarily because of the quality of the show though, it was more because of Bandai's retarded decisions and the show being pushed to a dead timeslot when most kids would be asleep.
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>>22601660
>You don't hear much from them anymore because there's nothing for them to work on anymore. Since the 00s recession, all anime dubs moving south, Bandai US shutting down, Canadian cartoons not getting made anymore and MLP over, what are they suppose to voice?
That's a bit ironic, since anime has never been more popular than it is now. I'm sure he could find some work if he really wanted to. Or maybe they would rather do western cartoons.
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>>22616492
yeah I found it eventually but thank you anyways
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>>22609879
Mark Oliver is British
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>>22617548
Wasn't 00 on Sci Fi?
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>>22618016
yeah
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>>22618016
Yup. Monday late nights. I used to stay up despite knowing that i'll feel like shit for the next day classes.
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>>22617348
if you want to be a smug retard, then have the archived tweets. http://web.archive.org/web/20230202004228/https://www.twitter.com/anairis_q/status/1620841928668643328
http://web.archive.org/web/20230202004228/https://www.twitter.com/anairis_q/status/1620841928668643328
https://archive.is/yKTut
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>>22617555
The only anime getting dubbed by ocean right now is world Trigger and Dragon Quest. Most big ocean VAs now do work in America alongside Vancouver work. >>22616078
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>>22618168
To be fair Bandai/Sunrise may've just done the Remaster dub because of rights issues with SEED's original dub, since it's only in the hyper expensive Collector's Edition

Not that it matters, going to SEED Freedom's dub screening, you'd be going more for the villains than the heroes
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>>22618168
And Vanguard. Vanguard's really the only thing Ocean has had consistently for the last decade. Mind you, it's done at Blue Water (ie the budget studio.) and is largely unknowns (which may or may not be a good thing depending on who you ask) but you'll get an odd case where somebody has a long VA history.

Hell, Masanori's English VA is George's from G Gundam.
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>>22601089
>dub trash
no one cares
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>LAKOOSE
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>>22618192
>ie the budget studio
More like the scab studio given Zeta.
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22 episodes in. Flay's Ocean VA being so awkward in her performance is so weird. Reminds me of how much Crispy Free sucked playing Zelgadis in Slayers.
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>>22618241
Meanwhile, in Ocean:
>Di-Arr-Kuh
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>>22618241
I never watched seed dub, but did they not pronounce the names like its real life counterpart without the retarded exotic spelling? (for example, aslan for athrun, kagari for cagalli)
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>>22618289
Both dubs use "Athrun" and "Cagalli" as the pronounciation.
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>>22618268
>Crispy Free sucked playing Zelgadis in Slayers.
It was his first VA role right? But yeah it was also weird for me too when I first heard him and I wasnt told that it was him till years later.
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>>22618268
Flay's Ocean VA is an industry-veteran but it was obvious she was too old to pull off a high-pitched teen girl voice.
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>>22618311
It's a different guy playing Zelgadis for the first half of Season 1. But the rest of the time it's Crispy.
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>>22618318
Fllay’s Ocean VA is Rarity in MLP.
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>>22618311
I thought his first role was Captain Tylor.
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YOU CAN'T MENTION GR15.
WHY DO YOU THINK I NEVER SAID HER NAME DESPITE HOW I OBVIOUSLY KNEW IT
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>>22618325
I know her more for Naomi in Death Note and Roberta in Black Lagoon, St. Germaine is a very talented actress held back by vancouver only work, but man she could not pull off a good voice for flay.
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>>22618362
She was also Nazz in Ed, Edd n Eddy, but only for Season 1. Then Erin Fitzgerald took over.
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>>22618325
>>22618362
You forgot Shana.
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>>22609879
Ocean Group Rau is kind of a modernized Mid-Atlantic Accent. He has that calm authority in his voice but when he goes unhinged it's incredibly satisfying. Probably one of the best English dub performances in Gundam.
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Is it true both the US subs and dub were bad?
We only had sub here in France but they were done by a big fan of the franchise, so they turned out top notch (with even a sneaky "Kira Jesus" joke reference being added : When Athrun yells at Kira he says "You think you're a messiah?")
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>>22618466
They seemed kind of stiffly-worded. And used "Dullindal" instead of Durandal. Which I guess isn't wrong? But the official Destiny subs went with Durandal.
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>>22618473
Could be that the dude translating had no context or knowledge and so, did a pisspoor job
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>>22618466
There was one point where Shinn calls Kira "Kira-san" that's translated as "Mr. Kira". Felt very odd.
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>>22618477
Honorifics are always a bit odd to localise. "Mr Kira" works as a literal translation, but doesn't feel right. I guess Shinn referring to Kira as "sir" might be better, but then could cause issues in other parts of the script if you're not consistent. Or you could just do what Persona does and leave the honorifics as is, because most of your target audience are probably weebs anyway.
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>>22618466
I know the Del Rey manga translations were notorious for being pretty shit back in the day and not consistent, often jumping back and forth between the names seen on Japanese merch or the names for the English dub, sometimes even on the same page.

I think the breaking point was Durandal's name actually since their Volume 1 of Destiny's manga used Dullindal but come Volume 2, they had a huge multi-page write up about the terminology they used and would be using going forward, Dullindal/Durandal being the big one.
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>>22601089
Orphee's VA is also a vtuber.
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I miss the old dub. Someone in the theater shouted "what" when they first pronounced Lacus. Same with Orphee, it just sounded odd when it was first said.
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>>22618752
The theatre that I went to basically laughed at LAKUZ CLYNE for the first few times it happened.
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>>22618773
Caught me completely off guard, I though it was a sub going in, didnt realize it was dubbed.

Its so jarring hearing everyone with a new english va after growing up watching the old 2000's dub.

Any idea why they chose to pronounce Lacus as Lakooz now?
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>>22618803
We (the ones who went to the 7pm screening) basically got fucking jebaited by Cineplex aka our local theatre chain, I will just copy and paste what happened from the other thread:

>Bought ticket around a month ago expecting JP audio with EN sub only since there was only one screening available during that time
>Arrived at the theatre today and suddenly there is another screening available a few hours after that mentions JP audio w/ EN subs
>Checked the sales terminal and saw that EN dub supposed to be for tomorrow so I thought I would be safe
>Still got the EN dub in the first screening anyway

While most of the viewers were like "eh whatever" at getting the EN dub but LAKUZ CLYNE is what did us in.
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"Lakooz" sounds like something I'd hear from a 90's dub.
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Apparently, it's (more or less) the correct pronunciation for the Latin word "lacus". It still sounds stupid.
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>>22618810
>Idiots were so quick to buy their tickets a month early, they didn't bother to check
They have themselves to blame
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More random pulls: Cagalli's dad in NYAV was another 4kids veteran. He voiced Odion in Yugioh.
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>>22617548
It’s pretty funny. In my country seed and seed destiny were extremely popular. And I’m in the west too
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>>22618016
>>22618128
What year? I remember Monster and Gurren Lagann being on there in 2008.
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>>22619269
The Philippines aren't a western country. They're an ASEAN country.
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>>22618752
They're pronouncing it right now though. You were used to the wrong version.
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>>22619276
Anon I’m French. SEED and Destiny are the most popular Gundam here by far
In fact we got the movie here two weeks before the US.
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>>22618473
>>22618476
This was know before, Bandai decided that going forward they don't want to change names that appeared in English in the series OP sequences so the some names in the official subs are outdated now. Dullindal, Jule, Elthman, Amalfi, Stellar will be the official international spellings now.
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>>22618810
man i fucking love canada. home of the brilliant smart people
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Any chances we will get an ocean dub version for a Canadian release of the movie? It really just isn't the same without Ed as Kira and double D as Athrun
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>>22619006
The name is stupid in the first place. If we follow jp pronounciation, then it would be "Lux"
What was bandai thinking in the first place
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>>22619380
>If we follow jp pronounciation, then it would be "Lux"
No.
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>>22619299
Except they are not, the french sub directly says Durandal and not Dulindal.
In fact, the french translator, who is an huge gundam fan for more than 20 years, did a little interview about it, and he really wanted to avoid doing errors like that.
Hell, the sub even kept Athrun french name from the old english dub. Here, he's named "Asran" (Originally it was a mistranslation of his name in the original french dub, but they kept it since it became iconic here)

So it's not something Bandai asked, it's just the translator being shit.
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>>22619413
>>22619299
french name from the old french dub*, sorry I got a brainfart when writing*
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>>22619413
For the English release, it was a Bandai decision. I don't know about how the languages in other countries work, good for the French that they kept the names they are used to.
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>>22601089
I have zero opinion on dubs
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>>22601089
>ein dalton
>masahiro altland
>KUDELIA AINA BERNSTEIN!
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>>22619436
Oh my god we're regressing back to 2002
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>>22619380

>If we follow jp pronounciation, then it would be "Lux"

Adding to what >>22619405 said, the katakana is "ラクス", which is pronounced as "Rakusu". As for me, I just assumed the pronunciation to be "Lah-cus".

With why "La-coos" is insisted for the NYAV dubs, see it as a consequence of Bandai Namco Filmworks supervising the dubs, as Stephanie Sheh explained in this Tweet chain:

https://twitter.com/Sumirewars/status/1779836082059714609

Adding in >>22619006 said, it's clear BNF insisted "Lacus" be pronounced "La-coos" to NYAV Post to make it more authentic.
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>>22619436
Thank god I'm not american/british
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You guys making such a big deal over Lacus when you heard her name in Japanese all these years and Google Translate is out there to speak for you how it's pronounced in Latin. The new dub is correct.
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>>22619464
I know this is Gundam Seed, but I still prefer when people talk like human beings instead of anime charaters. And that means pronouncing Lacus like it's spelled and not how it's dictated.
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>>22619497
Anglospeaking is the dumb one. Lacus is Lacus in most other languages.
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Surprisingly, Mu VA was the one from the Ocean dub
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>>22620135
Why couldn't NYAV get back any of the other VAs people liked? Was it just cheaper to get the usual pack of Funi VAs than to bring back any of the Ocean talent?
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>>22620138
I think it's because Dewall moved to LA, so yeah, I assume cost, they probably recorded everything quickly with everyone at the same place
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>>22620135
Christine Cabanos is Meyrin?
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>>22620135
Wish they recasted Sheh because her Lacus is awful but she's basically buddy-buddy with Sinterniklaas so that was unlikely to happen.

>>22620138
Duval's in LA and has been for a while. Probably easier to get in touch with him than anybody because we know they never approached any of the Canadian older cast in the first place for the redub according to Hill himself back in 2018. Plus the dub was probably made rather quickly. Never intended to see the dub but my theater fucked up the showings. At least we got free tickets for the proper subbed showing.
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>>22620142
I wonder how much it cost for Yashahime, since that brought back the Canadian actors for the old cast. There was also the Gintama Final Movie but that was only for the main trio.
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>>22620151
Where the heck has Chantal Strand been?
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>>22620146

Since NYAV's SEED Destiny dub.
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>>22620135
Any other pics from the credits?
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>>22620154
Its funny, Viz went out of their way to get 90% of the cast back for that dub, but when it came to bleach, a bigger franchise, half of the cast from the dub was replaced or forced into retirement.
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>>22620402
But wasn't InuYasha a bit more popular than Bleach in North America?
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>>22620402
Blame half of them having some weird white person guilt thing, looking at Chad's VA.
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>>22620424
I thought it for most of them it was Studiopolis being cheap and not wanting to use union actors like Laura Bailey and Travis Willingham, and of course Vic for obvious reasons.
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>>22619474
Conversely, "Lah-cus" just works.
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>>22620453
People die when they are killed.
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>>22620142
According to Luna's VA at the NY premiere she recorded all her lines in one sitting in late February, and most of the dub was done by then so I assume most characters were the same since a lot of the dialogue is just Kira and Lacus. I guess Sunrise gave them a short time to pull off this dub considering the premiere would be a month later.
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>>22620138
Some might have been salty. One of the NYAV guys said something along the lines of "the old dub sucked" when the new dubs were announced.
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>>22620424
Chad's VA has always been on a swivel. A bunch of Bleach characters had their dub VAs swap mid-show, possibly because they weren't willing to keep up with Cartoon Network's weekly schedule without demanding higher pay. Don't make it about race.
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>>22620453
Lux.
Wish I remembered the rest of the weird translated-by-ear names from the early subs.



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