Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

Current Contests:

Zenon Magazine:
https://comic-zenon.com/article/entry/2023/05/09/132801

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

Mangano:
https://manga-no.com/mangano_award_1st#rules
Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

Additional community added Resources:
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Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos

How (You) can help /mmg/:

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>>7158672
thanks for posting good resources. I'm slowly starting my first manga. Don't want post stuff till I'm a few chapters in. Feels very exciting to finally work on a project I've put thought into

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>>7158672
one page comic for a class zine project, hand inked on a nice big bristol board. it was fun but a little too time consuming if i ever wanna do this in a greater volume. can i get any tips or advice on gaining tempo without getting sloppy?

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>>7158672
I noticed Manga Plus wasn't on the OP list. was just looking at their page, it seems pretty decent.
here's one of their manga. (pic related)
I'm also trying something similar by making a musician character.
music is a potentially tricky subject to deal with, in a silent manga.
>>7158862
>can i get any tips or advice on gaining tempo without getting sloppy?
thats pretty easy to read , which is a plus.
you said you used a big bristol board. try a small one . thats what I do.

>>7158419
Thanks anon!
>>7158686
Yeah good luck to you to! well I have to draw 12 pages more in 2 months, and the next mont will be busy with the university final exams so yeah...it's going to be a fun ride. I hope I dont need to rush to achieve it.
>>7158437
Yeah probably will change a bit her face I'm not happy with how I drew it

Got back some of the reader survey results, some pretty encouraging feedback from the japanese readers. One guy even said he wanted to read a sequel!
Apparently there's still the web survey results to check, but I'd be happy just with these responses.

>>7158862
Do it a lot. I don't mean "50 more times", I mean "500 more times, and maybe you'll be getting somewhere".

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>>7158967
do you take feedback from japanese readers a bit more to heart, since we're all trying to replicate their culture in some way or another? Like getting these cute little emotes from pixiv? I remember when i was shitpositing on an /a/ thread, and one of my drawings got scraped and posted by a big fan account on twitter, and it got a ton of かわいいs and i rode that high for a while

>>7159002
>do you take feedback from japanese readers a bit more to heart
Not really. I mean, I guess I should since they're the target audience, but I'm just glad to get feedback from anybody at the moment. I haven't really gotten much feedback from the non-japanese who've seen it anyway, beyond "looks good"-type feedback.
Not surprising cos it only hit pirate sites a day or so ago and I'm a literal who.
>since we're all trying to replicate their culture in some way or another?
Not everyone is. I wasn't, for one. I only do right now because japan is my audience.

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Last thread i asked about importing settings, and i forgot to say that i also wanted to export in pdf, mostly to post it in 2 pages too and there's 4 options, and i don't wanna go testing because sometimes it crash when export or do the 3d preview binding or the autosaves too,
And that would be fine, but the thing is that i'm in borrowed time because i had to paid the csp subscription last month and i didn't had the money so i just haven't close the program yet

>>7159075
Y'know, questions like that are really better answered by just googling it.

>>7158862
As >>7158967 is saying, you just keep doing it. The only way to practice getting good at comic making is to make comics.

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Finished my third one shot almost a week ago and it's number 9 on MPC's May monthly awards!

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>>7154976
Sorry for the late response but every good creative is insane and a masochist

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Is this level of art 'good enough' to make an online comic that people will bother reading?

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>>7159670
>every good creative is insane and a masochist
I don't know about that . But maybe a bit autistic

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>>7159719
absolutely

>>7159626
Whats publishing on mangaplus like?

>>7159954
Pretty nice but they are censorship happy

>>7159954
as a manga centered platform its really nice, but the audience usually does not interact very much with you

Test

>>7159979
Is that the name of the manga you're making?

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>>7158967
Mail-in survey answers:
> “Girlfriend Until Satisfied!” is the first adult manga in history to receive an honorable mention submission from overseas. Mr. Dingle, the school youth erotic drama that unfolds in the school's literature club room has an interesting excitement. Not only the sexual desire of Mr. Okada and Mr. Fujimori, who have long straight black hair, but also the innocent schoolgirls of Mr. Matsui and Mr. Hanamura, the complex secret technique sex where everyone makes full use of titty fuck was a tremendous pleasure acme furniture.
> "Girlfriend until you're satisfied!" is interesting. The story of his love affair with four women is very interesting.
> The heroines were very attractive. I want you to draw a continuation.
> All the heroines are cute, the setting is good, and Ms. Hanamura, who seems the most plain, is unexpected. I thought there were people who were really looking forward to future works. It's also good to have sex with someone else's help. I enjoyed reading it.
> Mr. Dingle's "Girlfriend Until Satisfied!" was very good. The drawings have a lot of individuality, and I'm looking forward to your next work.
Web survey answers:
> I think it was very good.
> Mr. Dingle's work is at the level of immediate serial publication. If he can mass-produce this level of work, I think he can become an author who can carry the Dreamscape on his back. I am rooting for you and wish you the best of luck.
> It is a fascinating picture and the volume is very large, and the content is also full of scenes that stick in my habit and pull me out (such as a blowjob with a superior eye).... I was disappointed to see the white correction.... I also wanted to see the genital expression (especially penis).... I would love to see it published in book form...! Among the attractive heroines, I think Matsui Chiharu is my personal favorite.... I look forward to seeing more of your work...!

Seems like people liked it! Getting lots of good news this week.

>>7159626
Thats awesome!

>>7160012
really nice Congrats mate!!!

>>7159950
Are you going to finish this?

>>7160012
Glad you're getting some pretty high accolades, man. Good job. Looking forward to more as well, and hope this is the start of something big for you.

>>7160105
obviously

>>7160012
Congrats mate, glad to see the feedback. Keep it up.

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WIP of a panel on page 2 for chapter 4. Probably will tweak the lineart further.

>>7160442
Looks fine anon

how do you best post comics on twitter? is it better to post pages individually or make a thread? should you post all the page at once or over time?

>>7160012
Congratulations hentaisama!

>>7160695
Whenever I post, I just do it 4 pages at a time, each post done as a comment to the previous one. Its slow, but it gets the job done.

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>>7160695
I post one at a time. Seems better, because the creators who update frequently seem to do better.
That being said, I get about 4 likes if I'm really lucky.

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>>7160012
I'm so happy for you anon, god bless!

>>7160012
If you don't mind me asking, Mr. Dingle, sir, how did you find your jp editor and how much do you pay him? Does he do anything other than check that the japanese is normal and not too machine-y?

>>7160885
I submitted work to the magazine, and my current editor contacted me through the magazine's twitter.
I don't pay anybody, the publisher pays me (a page rate/royalties) and the editor (a salary). We're coworkers, neither one of us is the boss.
He's an editor, he does everyone a manga editor does. We strategize what genre we're gonna focus on, he critiques the work (mostly the writing though he'll point out things in art he thinks could be added/changed for the better) and also, since I'm not there to do it, represents me to his boss (the editor-in-chief). On top of that manga editors also make the title logos for the works, does the final typesetting (which is where he corrects my dialogue) and various magazine-related stuff.
I don't necessarily have to follow his advice, though I'd be stupid not to.

>>7160012
I love this! CONGRATULATIONS Pornanon!

I have a silly question which is the "correct" size to draw ero-manga for a company using clip studio: A4, B4...or other???

>>7160909
This magazine uses A4 with custom print dimensions. You can just apply with work drawn on a4 or b4, it's fine. They'll send you a template when you work with them.

>>7160914
Thanks man! Can´t wait to see more success to you man!

Cheers! :)

Been working on a zine with a group over the last few months and it's finally 99% ready.
My excitement is so high, we already made the second one in advance.

>>7160897
Ah, I should have figured the publisher would have editors, idk why that idea didn't cross my mind. Thanks for the in-depth answer, it's really helpful. Also congratulations!

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>>7160943
>zine
what is that? is it like a manga?

>>7158672
is the perspective wrong on purpose?

>>7160987
It's a case of "good enough to get the point across."

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TIL about a self-improvement movement in Japan called "Short sleepers" where people practice actively reducing their sleep, until they get used to only sleeping 5 hours a night.

恐ろしい社会ですね。。。

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I would like to start a small comic with my oc‘s that I‘d just post on my socials. This is my first idea, so I wonder do you understand what’s going on? Do you have some tips to start such a gag short comic?

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Work in progress

>>7161080
there's some good panels here. is this a pure horror story?
>>7161173
>do you understand what’s going on?
I don't know, she is acting like a cat? It's got a nice feel to it. as for gag comics they are usually reliant on a setup, leading to a punchline gag ending. but they don't have to be.
>>7161198
this is interesting.

>>7158862
Interesting how you added gamification to the comic with the build and stats graph. The rest of the work needs more work.

>>7161005
The less hour you sleep the more likely you die from heart disease.

>>7161227
>this a pure horror story?
It's adventure story with horror themes

>>7161232
thanks, the whole focus of this zine was a video game-y 'choose your character' idea so i'm glad that part is obvious
>the rest of the work needs more work
yeah, i'm no /int/ but as long as i keep drawing and have an open mind about what i should improve, i'll get there eventually. what sort of things in particular do you notice, that i can improve relatively quickly with effort?

>>7160970
Small print and self-published work.
In this case, we're trying to release a small one every two weeks with some self-published works, it's been fun!

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>>7160021
thank you! it's number 8 now!

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Do anybody knows how to make good cloudy skies? I haven't found a good screentone in csp assets, and neither a good reference for drawing it in black and white, so if anybody has some good reference, or some manga guide on backgrounds it will much appreciated

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>>7162380
I don't know if there's really any wrong way to draw clouds. It's more an opportunity to be creative.

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What do I need to know to make stories like Jiro Taniguchi and Makoto Shinkai? I'm not interested in fantasy or battle shonen stories, but I find it very difficult to write about everyday stories and romance, as I have no experience IRL, all my reference is for movies and slice of life manga. I want to write mature, almost cinematic stories, something that can easily be adapted into a movie like Jiro Taniguchi's stories. As much as I have a large repertoire of references, I can't write

>>7162380
A lot of artists will use a cloud texture brush tool and spam it as often or as little as needed, and then do some subtle screentones to denote volume/shading. It's as shrimple as that. Like how for dense foilage they might just use a leaf/tree brush tool and spam that in the background.

>>7162537
>very difficult to write about everyday stories and romance, as I have no experience IRL
>very difficult to write about everyday stories

Anon, what? Every single day you exist and live your life is its own self contained "everyday story." How are you defining that term that it's drastically different from slice-of-life? The whole point is that you're portraying people going about their daily lives.

>>7162537
If you have to ask then you're not qualified.

>>7162540
How can I write about romance credibly if I've never had a romance experience IRL?

>>7162550
write it anyway / watch romcoms

>>7162550
Romance isn't the only part of slice of life, anon, there's literally everything else. But if you're super adamant regarding the romance angle, then the next-best substitute (not that it's super great, mind you, but it's what's there) is to simply watch or read famous media that deal with romance (both as the major point and as a subplot). Literally read and watch as much as you're willing to. You will see what the characters do or feel at certain points and you'll at least be able to mimic those points.

Again, this substitute ain't great, but it's what you're left with at this specific point in time.

>>7162550
>>7162537
Why are you asking this on/mmg/? Ask it on stupid questions or /lit/.

>>7162524
I meant more like darker clouds, like stormy clouds, those are like harder to get them right

>>7162539
I get the idea, but that's why i asked for some reference, what i want is be able to differentiate several clouds shapes without making a dark blot

miscalculated the page count on my draft and the two-page spread was on a page flip. I guess that's what rough drafts and names are for

>>7162631
Can you add a filler page?

>>7162658
Yeah, I just added a filler page before the two-page and it seems to work. It was under the page limit so there's no problem

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>>7162570
you sound like the baka here, honestly.
anyway this is some good advice here >>7162552

>>7162550
Ignore what others have said here and just take inspiration from romcoms. They're speaking as if romance slice of life fiction is even remotely similar to real life.
Either that or just make it up. Most people aren't going to care as long as it goes the direction they want it to and is satisfying to read.

Does anyone have advice for creating and redrawing interiors of rooms that are going to be used multiple times?

>>7162777
What is specifically the problem?

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>>7162777
you can try drawing backgrounds on a bigger highres canvas, and then choosing different zoomed in dections as backgrounds so it's not obvious that it's copy and pasted
if you don't have enough this to do, you can learn blender. it's fairly easy to block things out like a bedroom with simple objects in blender, do a quick render in perspective, and just add details manually
or best advice is you can just copy paste backgrounds. it's not that big of a deal. stuff like sayonara eri works because all the panels are the same aspect ratio since it's supposed to be filmed / cinematic and the back is supposed to be stationary, but if you're doing normal dynamic panels, mix up panels with rendered backgrounds with just plain gradients, dot patterns for stuff like closeups or actions scenes. if you mix it up, it's not as obvious.

>>7163148
Wow this looks like shit
What a waste of a page

>>7163148
While I agree with the concept of what you're saying, I also have to agree with >>7163402 somewhat - that page feels like what the mangaka was trying to do didnt quite translate. The man's facial expressions are a bit too subtle and if a reader were to look at the panels at the usual pace an average reader does, the four panels blend into the same pic. There is no intrinsically "wrong" way to depict a series of events provided that the reader gets what happened, but there sometimes are certainly much better ways.

>>7163148
>>7163402
Fujimoto is such a fag

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>>7161005
How do they do it?
I'd like to reduce my sleep hours too.
I tried to sleep for only 3-4 hours a day last March.
Unfortunately, it didn't work out for me.
My current fulltime job makes me only able to draw during weekends.

>>7163478
Fulltime as in what?
I have a fulltime job and have time to draw afterward every day.

>>7163478
>How do they do it?
Its called they die earlier.

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Oneshot script: done
thumbnail draft: done

>>7162777
install the sims 4, build the place, and take some screenshots

>>7159724
Yes they can be autistic but hone that autism
You need to basically hone your art form to an insane level so that everyone thinks you're a madman, where everyone is telling you to give up or slow down for your health but you don't

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Asking for cloudy skies again, now posting a picture of what i mean here>>7162380

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>>7163549
>Fulltime as in what?
As in maximum wage-slavery.
>0600 wake up
>0630 go to office
>2030 get out of office
>2100 get out of gym
>2130 home
>2200 finished housechores & sleep
Back in March, I forced myself to wake up on 0230 to draw.
But I could only keep up with this lifestyle for nearly 2 months before I collapsed.
And no, I don't have the time to draw at the office.
As I said it's a maximum wage-slavery job.
I'm under constant "strangle" until at least most of people has gone home from work at 1730, that's when things start to ease up quite a bit.
Still, there are a lot of shits left to do because I spend my entire morning and afternoon dealing with all their bullshits.

>>7162380
>>7162580
You seem to be talking about cumulonimbus and nimbostratus clouds, which may be harder to stylize. They tend to clump up more than other types of clouds which gives them higher contrast and harder edges. Layering is your best friend in this case to give the sky a sense of volume, as well as give the clouds some depth in their height (cumulonimbus in particular are extremely tall).

>>7163801
You see the picture right there
Just draw that

>>7163871
Get a better job

>>7163871
Stop going to the gym and doing chores. Start slobmaxxing and use that time to draw

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>>7163878
>>7163879
I'm mean more like how to make the clouds more darker, get that kind of texture on the sky, but in a monocrome setting, i have tried with screentones and i couldn't get it right, i do not have problems with drawing or making that kind of stuff in color or grayscale, but for some reason i don't like the results i had in monocrome
I hope i explain myself well now

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Is this white void acceptable, or should I at least draw a stylized forest in the background?

Drawing backgrounds feels like washing the dishes after cooking. I just want to get back to drawing people...

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>>7164035
You're not going to get a straight answer. There's no "correct" way to draw something, everyone has different methods for shit, developed through trial and error. Go find some artist you like and try and find examples of them drawing what you're trying to draw and study that.

>>7163148
>>7163420
it's pretty hard to translate the movement of video over to a medium where the average reader is done with a page after 3 seconds, but most people would go "oh, it's the same panel 4 times" "that's dumb and lazy" and then go "there's no way he's that lazy, why?" "well i have to double check now" "oh yeah, his face is slightly different there". he had the choice into tricking the reader into playing spot the difference and risk it being glossed over by page flippers, or ruin the tone and composition with a zoomed in shot. btb, this is in context of an 8 page scene with the exact same background. This is not the worst example. there's another 8 page scene with a shot of a IV bag infront of a window - no movement at all, minimal dialogue. and of course theres 4 or 5 pages that's compeltely black i think

I'f be more interested to see how other authors convey time passing. there's this, and there's the extreme of the Houseki no Kuni author taking a 2 year hiatus during the plot-timeskip

don't want to turn this off topic, but sayonara eri is probably the reason why the cm anime was the way it was. i didn't watch it, but it was funny seeing people react to it the way they did. they shouldn't have be too surprised when fans of the source aren't going to get on board with your ozu / tarkovsky homage

>>7164054
I would say you definitely need something. Looks pretty bland, as-is. Maybe some indication of environment on the larger full-page panel, and the little panels can just be straight-up black, or have some toning/hatching/something in them to make them stand out a bit.

>>7164108
Drawing backgrounds is boring when your setting is boring. Consider.

>>7162742
Where is this from?

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>>7164441
what about now?

>>7164709
Better, but your linework is pretty jarring against it and I haven't seen any improvement there in a while

One of the problems with learning as you work is that an artist tends to get too comfortable drawing the same things and people in the same way and never try to improve beyond that because they want to get it done quickly.

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>>7164727
I think the first three pages turned out good
>>7161080
I am working in my other comic that has more gentle lines btw

is there an easier way to do gradients traditionally without screentones or am i doomed to master hatching or die

>>7165041
Traditionally? Tones and hatching ARE the easy options.

>>7165043
what's the hard trad option?

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https://imgur.com/a/TcdHLYs

Finally done with this shit for now. I still need to comb through it for errors and I have an additional intro page to draw but I need to reset my brain before I do that. Anyways, what do you think?

>>7165046
Ink wash or markers. If you think controlling value with hatching is hard you're going to have a lot of "fun" with washes.

>>7165047
This is very well crafted anon, good job! The general level of this general is scary

>>7165059
It's a huge leap to go from not drawing at all to drawing something, anything. Most people won't even do this first step. From there, you have to be even more insane or autistic to want to basically do multiple drawings again and again and again, page after page. Possibly dozens of pages. For some anons on /mmg/, you're at hundreds of pages. For an average of 2-6 panels per page, that's a whole lot of drawing. No surprise that the average anon on /mmg/ would be able to grind themselves to a relatively higher level.

>>7165047
looks good. are all these parallel lines used in shading drawn by hand or are they some kind of brush? how long does it take you to finish a page?

>>7165047
I'm impressed by your line/hatchwork, anon. Good stuff, respect.

>>7165047
What's up with the nigger lips and nose

>>7165047
Ooh it's you! I recognize your manga from the leeches page. It was quite a while back that you posted that page, if I recall, so it's good to see your work finally come this far!
That aside, it's always nice to see a hidden gem emerge from this board, as slow as it may be and as long as it takes, it is worth it for truly passionate and wonderful craftsmanship such as this. Every page is given equal care and attention to detail that I can only imagine how long it took to hatch them all by hand. The exposition is set up nicely, and I love the world that you have displayed so far. The art greatly aids in its immersion and makes the whole thing very enjoyable to read and imagine. The dialogue is another noteworthy part, as it is written extremely formally, which fits the setting, while not being overbearing or annoying to read.
Overall, this is a very solid start to a comic that you can just tell by looking at it that a lot of care was put into it. Well done.

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>>7164035
try guptil, rendering in pen and ink
there's nothing on clouds specifically but the whole book is full of great rendering advice and references

>>7165047
Really nice overall, though I think your commitment to rendering only in black and white lead to some compositional problems that made it a little tough to tell what's going on at first glance. Particularly the underwater scenes, and certain design choices like never drawing the river dragon's eyes.
Also the scene in the barracks/hospital thing was a little... I dunno, weird? It felt like too much happened too quickly with too little to orient the reader. Gawain somehow knew there was a boy still underwater, one of the leeches suddenly turned into a toddler (which surprised nobody?), said toddler then walked off to get dressed without saying a word, a cute girl suddenly appears then leaves just as quick and we're done.
The intro and the scene fighting the dragon were quite good, but that scene in the building was pretty confusing.

Anyway very nice artwork overall. I've autistically hatched enough pages like that to know how much of a pain it is.

>>7165082
All of it is done with the default csp pen. Sometimes I use a ruler if I'm feeling lazy. If everything goes to plan then I can manage a page and a half a day but usually it's a page a day. This chapter took a lot longer cause I'd never drawn rapids like this and kept changing my mind on how to draw it. The next chapter is in a more familiar setting and should hopefully take a lot less time.

>>7165103
She's an alien, she's supposed to look a little "off" + big lips are hot, you homo.

>>7165104
>>7165191
TY for the story crit. I might change some of the dialogue to make things more clear.

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>>7165047
Like said, the hatching and art is nice but the moment to moment story makes no sense. Things happen at random with no build-up, and no elaboration, and it's not like they're gags or anything.

Perhaps you're just trying to do the whole 'in media red' thing and think that the mystery of wtf all this is will keep people reading, but I find it has the opposite effect on me. If I don't have a foothold in the setting, the tone and the rules of the world from the start, then I'm not invested in reading.

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>>7165047
you need to work on everything that happens after the intro anon. especially after the fight scene with the dragon. its too confusing and seemingly tensionless. a baby appears and then it leaves. a pretty barmaid appears and then leaves. the guy underneath the tavern sulks and then the story ends. its a setup to a subplot cut short before you even have any idea what the subplot could possibly be about, while also seemingly lacking any connection with the alien-meteor overarching plot you opened the chapter with. The only thing i can divine is that the girl might have some sort of connection with the aliens. because big lips = alien?? but then again she is the only female character we see. maybe thats just how you draw women in general?

the art in the intro was cool. the fight scene with the crocodile was cool, but at times it was a little hard to parse. you put too much black in the design of the crocodile-dragon imo. It looked alittle too much like a black blob at times, especially because you chose to have it be an eyeless creature. without the eyes it was hard to interpret it as menacing beast rather than an obscure aggressive black entity.

>>7165047
>https://imgur.com/a/TcdHLYs
I'm not overly concerned about leaving information unexplained (such as the leeches), the main issue I see with this chapter is that it... doesn't go anywhere... as a reader, I have no clue where the story is heading, I don't know if it's a mystery, adventure, comedy, etc...
Your art is very good so not a problem with that.

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>>7158672
Weebs, please recommend me some mangaka known for his composition. Even if his drawings aren't Murata-tier, as long as his composition is solid, it'll do. Someone that draws in unconventional angles and often has three or more characters interacting at the same time. Preferably something that isn't action, but thriller/romance/drama.

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>>7165791
Death Note consistently had large rooms full of the investigators going over plans and plots and stuff like that.

>>7165791
Urasawa Naoki comes to mind immediately, though unconventional angles is a bit vague (12 angry men was kino though)

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Chapter 4 panel for AECAST. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't rename it from "The Citadel Part III" to "Naomi's Fucking PISSED."

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>>7158672
Is there anything AI can help with in the process comic-making?
I mean, it can't even generate the same interior design twice, let alone to depict the interior from different angles.

>>7166160
Nah it's pretty worthless for anything except getting easy (you)s on 4chan

>>7166160
it is really bad at being consistent with designs of things or characters, so not useful in that way. You can use language models like GPT to help with some brainstorming during early outlining though.

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>>7166160
>Is there anything AI can help with in the process comic-making?
you can use AI to make your characters. Then trace the character, and put it in the panels. Bang, Then you have a manga. you can also use AI to make the background, and write the script.

>>7166160
In its current iteration, across the different AI products currently available? Not really, no. As others have said, its ability to stay on target and consistent is really bad.

>>7166279
The time it would take for AI to randomly shit out anything halfway acceptable and anywhere near what you wanted it to be, you could have just learned to fucking draw

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>>7165047
I can't read it, the imgur page just shows me a grey background, it happens the same that when it tried to upload my draft
Do anybody has a solution, or knows what's the problem

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>>7166369
Forget what i said anons, i had downloaded another browser since that happened, and now i tried the link there, and worked fine

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Today, maybe in a few hours i will try to post the fully final draft now with the polished text (not the lineart part since i scketched the background on the same layer like a fucking retard so i will have to do the cleaning)
I will post it so i can get some revision on my english since i'm a esl so that would help a lot, also knowing if the story is any good and if it has a chance of succeeding
So i would be really thankfull if anons can give me their thoughts of that too

>>7166160
well there is this webtoon that clearly uses ai.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/romance/quantum-entanglement/list?title_no=5775
the author denies it but it's pretty obviously not fully her own art. she probably had to feed the model a lot of specific art styles to get something that worked somewhat believably, but even then it still has its flaws so hopefully by the time ai gets good enough to help with that there'd be some kind of regulation stopping it from taking over the human comic artists.
in the short term though i could see ai generated floor plans or maybe even basic 3d environments being able to be used to speed up the process.

>>7166712
Anon use this https://quillbot.com/grammar-check

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>>7166762
I tried to use it last night, and it didn't convince me in some stuff, i rather trust in some randoms in the internet

>>7166745
I wish for once someone who clearly is trying to skate by with AI would just admit to it. I don't like AI but if you're going to use it, just say you did it, jesus. Stop pussyfooting around.

I fucking hate imgur, i have tried the last 2 hours to upload and i can't get it right, it not possible, fuck that shit, learn to cout numbers

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>>7166909
Fuck that fucking shit site, do anybody knows where else i can post, or post a fucking pdf

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I won't retract what i said, but i finally got a good upload, so anons please do your worse

Also, before to start i just wanted to say that the limit for upload is 50 pages, and since i had 51, i just skipped the first pages

And also i need the most feedback on
-how is this for a first chapter
-english and grammatical errors
-paneling
And your thoughts overall

Well, so here it is https://imgur.com/a/AV9T1Y5
I'm going to take a nap

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What inking brush do you guys use?

>>7166970
Depends on what I'm drawing. If it's your average comic page, then I use a small narrow brush that mimics a smooth ink pen. If it's something like an actual cover, I use it a little less and use more hard round brush. And just in case anyone asks, I'm on PS so I'm using manga brushes in the Kyle's Manga set which is free for all PS users.

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>>7166970
Traditional ink for me. Sakura Microns, mostly .03, .05, and .08. Also some brush pens for filling in larger areas and some feathering and such.

>>7166961
I looked through it. I see you posting pages here from time to time, and I've never really commented on them, so I suppose I will now.

First, for things I like, I think the art is the strongest thing, but it still does need some work. You have some fun character gesture, body language, and character expressions. Though, I think you tend to go a bit overboard with the "nonchalant, bored head tilt". Your characters all seem to have pretty similar hairstyles too, so once we get into the thick of things, it can be a bit hard to tell them apart. I would try to give some of the characters more distinct hairstyles or outfits, or something so we can more easily tell them apart.

I'm also still baffled by how you construct your pages. Do you draw all the panels individually, and then take pictures of them then assemble them into pages? There's got to be a better way...can't you get a cheap scanner, or something?

As for the writing and story...I won't lie, its borderline incomprehensible as it is. You desperately need a proofreader or someone who knows the nuances of English a bit better. For one, it took me looking over the first 5 pages for about 10 minutes to figure out what direction I was supposed to read in, and even now, I'm still not sure (Is it supposed to be left to right?) I thought it was supposed to be left or right, but sometimes you seem to reverse to right to left.

Your lack of really understanding English also makes it seem sometimes like there are a dozen different people talking on any given page. The dialogue just seems like random non-sequiturs than coherent thoughts. This might be solved by actual word balloons connecting the dialogue and anchoring it to a character. As of right now, it just reads as random streams of thought. I gave up after 10 or 12 pages. I'd randomly read a page or two here or there, and there are some areas where it is easy enough to follow and coherent, but then you just lose it a panel or two, or a page later.

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Not sure if this is right thread to post this, maybe you find it amusing

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>>7167098
I don't browse /ic/ that much anymore after I moved away from manga drawing. I still do enjoy making parodies sometimes. See ya around

>>7167095
good food

Can contrivance-driven storytelling made right on the spot without thinking twice be carried by good panelling and action scenes as long as the whole thing is entertaining?

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>>7167005
Well, almost all the character on the chapter are wearing uniform except the nurse and the antagonist, and the rest are wearing uniforms (at least outside the flashbacks)

I did the name on trad, and i did thinking like mangas are made, two pages that are meant to be seen at the same time (wich thanks to the binding preview, i can tell it looks better that way), and it means to be read it from right to left


>I gave up after 10 or 12 pages
So, you didn't read it whole?
>and there are some areas where it is easy enough to follow and coherent, but then you just lose it a panel or two, or a page later.

Could you tell where, i would like to see what i could do

>>7167228
The answer depends on whether or not you like Dragon Ball

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>>7166203
>>7166259
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>>7166283
Shoot.
I was thinking about using AI to help me to draw backgrounds since that, seriously, it's such a waste of efficiency having to spend 8 hours drawing something that average readers wouldn't even look at for more than 8 seconds.

Do any of you practice doing "complete" copies of manga pages? Or do you prefer to copy fragments (say, a face here, and arm there, etc.) What are the pros and cos of either approaches?

>>7167305
You know, backgrounds aren't that hard once you learn composition. You can get away with a lot of negative space when you know what you're doing.

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>>7167331
Not him but to get to the point where you can pull it off efficiently you're inevitably going to go through many many hours of backgrounds. At least I did. I hated drawing backgrounds, but I also made it hard on myself by doing shit like pic related. It's only because I went through many pages like this that I realized I didn't need to. It's a journey, y'know? A lesson isn't learnt until you learn it first hand.

>>7161005
Sleep helps you improve, this is stupid. Your brain like all of your body needs time to rest and reorient in order to become more efficient at whatever its being trained to do

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>>7167305
was a bit curious, since it's been a while since i explored the "using photographs as manga backgrounds" concept that gets floated around here occasionally. prompt was "japanese classroom with 2point perspective, facign the windows and back of the classroom, chairs placed unevenly.
It didn't follow any of the additional descriptors, and just gave me generic classroom shots. This took around half an hour of cleanup, as the entire left side was bathed with shadow when posterised, so basically had to redraw it entirely. also have to note that theres a lot of noise, as copilot / dalle isn't super hidef, especially when you're used to working with 300 or 600dpi with comics.
The overall process is no different to tracing a photograph, but with the added problem of objects not making sense, like chair legs melting and overlapping.
A tip / observation -- backgrounds made with photos/3d renders like unreal are super obvious if they don't have a lot of fixup done to it, as the forms are heavity defined by light and shadow rather than lines. There's a lot of great painterly comics out there, but most comic makers live and die by the line. They define all the objects by lines first, then add shadows and highlights
I want to stress how useless AI still is for anything outside of generating the most generic settings, but if that's all you need, it's a cheaper and copyright free alternative to photographs. Still absolutely not recommended for anything other than wide shots to establish settings, but if you fine with the Asano-style look, go for it. Me personally, I love backgrounds, especially tree trucks. there's no perspective rulers, it's just me bonding with some squiggly curves. absolute peace

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Manos

>>7167095
cool I like your depiction of women

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Have you taken the plagiarism pill?

>>7166970
Is this entirely done with brush? I used to use a #2 brush. Now I use microns
>this volume was great btw

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50% complete, almost time to sketch the next scene.

>>7167396
onde vou poder ler?

Do anybody knows how to make that text notes with all the the text, they show up when i exported in csp, but i can't find them anymore

>>7165047
I dont know what the other anons are talking about, I was able to follow everything just fine. Love the art style, the scenes, the action, the hatching, etc.
My only complaint is that page 33 is a bit compressed.
And that I didn't quite understand the numbers were the pages till about page 15. But that's more on me than you.

>>7167558
br too?

Is the new clip studio client opening like 14 process to anybody as well?

>>7165047
artwork is excellent. dialogue too. pacing could use work. felt tough to get grounded in the setting

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>>7167256
>So, you didn't read it whole?
I jumped around a bit, but the writing is really jarring. There are some bits here and there that just don't make ANY sense at all.

I get the feeling too that you're sort of aping a lot of manga and anime that you really like, without actually understanding what they're saying and why. You also have a lot of dialogue that's just superfluous, and sometimes a character will say the same thing in three or four different ways in the same panel.

>Could you tell where, i would like to see what i could do
Pic related is probably one of your most readable pages, at least out of the first few. I mean, I get the gist of what's going on, but the there are some little dialogue bits that I just don't understand. This page, however, despite some minor errors, is pretty easy to follow. Its actually kinda funny too. Probably one of your most well written pages.

However, on the page prior to this, in the bottom row of three panels, you have the dialogue:

>"I know that if you were smart, you'd be scared too."
>"You know I can hear you, right?"
>"Yeah, but what does work for!!!"

I have NO idea what is being said in that third line, or how that is even a reaction to what was said in the previous panel. Weird, jarring dialogue like this is spread throughout. Your reader doesn't want to fight to try to understand what you're saying, or they're just going to move on.

>>7158672
Why the hell do the Japanese like to put pickled plum on rice?

>>7166961
I would proof read this if you actually wrote a script because I have not idea who's saying what

>>7167791
East asians in general have a lot of pickled foods that they eat with rice that people who don't care to dive into their relative cuisines don't know about. It's an acquired taste, not going to lie though. I can see why people don't like it.

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>>7166961
I've been the anon who has been reading and commenting over the past threads, I took a break from 4chan for a while but I'll give your thing a re-read this week

>>7167776
Yeah I told him before he needs a translator. For ESL he gets a decent portion of it, but poor grammar/spelling is very noticeable and off putting for many adults.

>>7167947
I feel he'd have an easier time simply typing in his native language into Google Translate or DeepL and letting it do the heavy lifting. Some of the sentences would probably be better served, in my honest opinion.

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>>7167947
>>7167955
I would have done that earlier, but the thing is that i wanted to be sure of what i wanted to say first, also i like to write in english since it's more easy for me, i have selective mutism, and trying to write my mother language is actually way harder that it seems

>>7168002
I don't want you to be discouraged, but you definitely need help with the writing and dialogue. The art, there's potential there, I'd like to see it more polished and put the characters into some environments and backgrounds.

>>7168002
>trying to write my mother language is actually way harder that it seems
Interesting, what is your mother language if you dont mind me asking?

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>>7168027
Oh, it's not because the language itself it's hard, is just that i went through a lot of bullshit that i can't really feel comfortable speaking or writing on it, is like i stutter in the keyboard

Should I post on mangadex? Dog Nigga got popular on there.

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I will miss drawing her face

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tried making a comic to promote my website

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If I was to start making doujinshi where could I even sell them now that Patreon blocks lewds (or at least, has made it way harder)
>>7168043
Wasn't Dog Nigga made for the Shounen Jump contest?

>>7168043
Why are you asking? Just fucking do it, it's not like you have anything to lose.

>>7168409
DLsite.
>Wasn't Dog Nigga made for the Shounen Jump contest?
No, it's just some guy's webcomic.

>>7167503
>plagiarism pill
More like, "being aware of how creativity actually works" pill.
Retards still delude themselves about creativity being this "magic talent" that only few possess when in reality is just authors copying their favorite things and modifying them into a neat little package.

Even retards like Tarantino figured this out long time ago.

>>7168405
>https:ovel
>python
>no flake
doa
cute comic though

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>>7164709
didnt like this page so I'm remaking it

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Any tips on getting an afternoon kick to get some art done WITHOUT coffee/caffeine? It messes with my sleep late into the night...

A lot of the times, I'm so tired I genuinely can't draw and it's barely 8PM. Too early to sleep, but too late for coffee

>>7168679
have your wife/girlfriend motivate you to draw by cheering you on

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>>7168705
if this doesn't work, try your anime waifu. she may be more supportive.

>>7168612
nicely done althoguht I will work a little bit more on the shoulder parts, her trapezius are massive.
Also what is that manga texture? It's an clip studio asset?I have always wanted to use it but I can't find it anywhere.

Dialogue protip to ESLs. Use Bing's Copilot ai to fix your grammar mistakes. It can even suggest similar sentences which have same meaning and might sound more nstural

Can I post here if I make western art? /co/ webcomic threads are constantly being shat up by everyone orbiting this one guy

>>7168822
sure if it's a comic you can post it here, and if anyone tells you otherwise tell them to go kill themselves

>>7168822
>The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.
>everyone is welcome here

Post away, if I have time I'll give it a good faith read. I would say at least 40-60% of the anons here don't draw in an anime style, so don't sweat it.

>>7168822
did u guys finally pull the plug? just checked /co/ and nothing damn
also like anons said, everyone is welcome just please don't bring ur schizos here PLEASE

>>7168822
I'm out of the loop sorry what happen with that thread?

>>7168815
>her trapezius are massive
I guess I exaggerated a bit
>Also what is that manga texture?
Medibang texture hatchingC-4

>>7168922
/co/ always has a lot of drama and shitposters. Currently there's been a lot more than the usual weather forecast.

>>7168822
Do what you want but just know I will never not be smug about /co/ sloppers talking endless shit about /ic/ being a shithole only to come crawling here because there native threads is doo doo dogshit.

What is everyone's current status with their project? How far along are you in your current chapter/episode?

>>7169003
Working on Chapter 5 of Altarusia. It will mark 60 pages done

>>7169003
Still planning... so many years...

>>7168922
some of them lurk here so just know that if anyone randomly namedrops a person in an insulting way, that poster is probably a perpetrator themselves.
as far as i'm aware there are at least, and more likely only, three people, and my guess is mods don't do anything about it because they don't care about /co/ making any original content.

>>7169021
>plan a thing for years
Dude, just get started already. We're making comics here, not Lord of the Rings.

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>>7169037
I'm making Lord of the Rings...

>>7169037
Speak for yourself

>>7168913
>did u guys finally pull the plug?
Anyone can make the thread. I made the last one. But I didn't make it again because why bother. Some no life will just troll it up. He might be a mod at /co/or something because he's reluctant to troll here

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>>7169000
My art got better since I started posting on /ic instead of /co. The hyw thread used to be good some years ago but it has become a shitposter fest now.

I've been spending the past few months doing commissions. Finally i have some time to do comics again and I'm going to spend the next month focusing on finishing the first chapter of my sci fi rom-com.

>>7169093
Would be nice to see something from Cosmic Crush at this quality.

>>7169093
>Finally i have some time to do comics again and I'm going to spend the next month focusing on finishing the first chapter of my sci fi rom-com.
how is that project going? I've only seen two pages of it

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>>7169113
I'm drawing it A3 size instead of each page A4 like I did with Oi so it should be better, but I can't do that quality for every panel without good reference and taking a really long time.
>>7169124
I only got 5 pages penciled, the rest only storyboarded. I got a new baby and hardly did any art the past few months, only pinup commissions. He's sleeping longer so I got time to focus on drawing comics again. I'm going to release the first chapter in black and white and try to make a full color version for webtoon.

>>7168927
Nice thanks anon!
>>7169003
I just finish page 8 of my SMA entry, 9 more to go...

>>7169198
do you draw all your comics until now only by hand?

>>7169264
Yes, I draw and ink everything by hand, I don't own a drawing tablet. I used to ink with brush but now I just use microns.

>>7169270
Holy based. I used too but the table has spoiled me. Sometimes I do one page and two

>>7169003
Haven't dont a freaking thing in over a month now, maybe longer. I need to get back into it. Just gotta plug in my tablet

>>7169003
Halfway through, looking like it'll be done in late july/early august at this rate. Later than I wanted but oh well.

>>7169198
What's with the blue line art? I've seen this before . Is there some easy way to erase the blue?

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>7169003 #
I'm doing several manga projects simultaneously. That makes it more interesting and fun

>>7169270
The trad pen is better anyway imo. The PC is great for certain things though. I stopped using a tablet though. A mouse is better for anything. For me at least

>>7169368
Non-photocopy blue. Scans don't pick it up as clearly as graphite, so it's easy to remove it from a scanned page without needing to risk smudging your inks erasing it. I dunno if that specifically is non-photocopy blue but that's the reason you see that shade of blue in animation/comics production.

>>7165047
>>7169003
I want to say ty to all the anons who gave feedback. I've got some ideas on how to make things clearer but I'm still waiting to hear back from certain irl people before I make any sweeping changes. That being said, I'm so fucking bored, I've got nothing to draw. I've already done all my design work. What do you guys draw when you're not drawing manga?

>>7169394
I might doodle for an hour or so but I get bored of that quickly so honestly if I'm not drawing comics then I'm just not drawing, I'll be playing video games or reading manga or something. The disciplined thing to do would be to do studies, but I get bored of those faster than doodling.

>>7169394
>What do you guys draw when you're not drawing manga?
That's the neat part, I'm always doing it. If I want a mental break I just play a videogame.

>>7169003
Frens talked me into doing the SMA this year so I'm working on getting it down at the moment. Fun times ahead.

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I liked this page. Sometimes I think I am spoiling the work hehe

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>>7169383
>>7169271
I feel like tablet would be way faster and save time and I wouldn't need materials, I just never got a tablet or learned to draw with one and am a luddite.
>>7169368
Basically what this anon said
>>7169388
It could be red, it could be yellow, it just makes the black inks easier to separate on photoshop then if I penciled with black. I just use a 5mm mechanical pencil filled with blue graphite.

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Jot down ideas.

>>7169616
Yo, you got any socials this is pretty good

>>7169502
That looks great. I love it

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giving a comic a go again left->right

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>>7167854
I will edit the text of what i exported, but the things is that the only named character would be the protagonist, i hope that doesn't matter too much, i kinda suck with names

>>7168015
I was a bit let down, but it was mostly because i went through a rabbit hole not knowing what to do next, if i had to change sometime or what

But i also use that time to play arround with the screentones and organizing materials i'm gonna need

>>7169593
Damn man, this might be one of your best looking pieces yet.

Your waifu-fu is definitely getting stronger.

>>7169502
you should have the moon behind her head in the first panel, it would look pretty cool

>>7169078
yea thats what i meant. the thread makers and even participants just fizzling out. well, welcome!

>>7169078
>He might be a mod at /co/or something because he's reluctant to troll here
Do they let anyone become a mod?

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>>7169870
Thanks, it came out pretty good in color
>>7169922
This, moonshots in animes are always kino.

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>>7169997
>moonshots in animes are always kino.
I know right

>>7169728
Wow something finally not in a white void!

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oneshot name: complete

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>>7169922
this one?
>>7169997
your skill to draw hot chicks improved a lot!

>>7170113
for a second I thought it was ben 10

>>7170124
You made me realize the premise has some similarities. It wasn't meant that way but there may have been some subconscious inspiration. There's magic watches and fantasy creatures and a wise adult character whose main job in the story is to drive the car

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>>7170114
Thanks, it all came from spending more time on things and drawing on A3 instead of A4 sized paper. I haven't been grinding particularly hard.

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>>7170225
this is simple but its nice

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I... forgot how that site to paste text is called

>>7170382
thank you :)

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>>7170713
Forget about it, i remember the name, but it says that it has some offensive words so i can post it

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Do anybody has any other site of trust where i could copypaste the script so this anon>>7167854 can read it?
I spend the whole day yesterday organizing that

>>7170812
>Do anybody has any other site of trust where i could copypaste the script
you mean like pastebin?

>>7170821
It said that there's offensive words so i can't post, and it might be the swearing, but i don't wanna edit all the text just to look which words are the ones i have to take out

>>7170812
hashb.in?

God the Araki book is so so good. I'm learning Japanese, and reading the book in the original language is making me see so much more in it. Part of it is because I'm reading a lot more carefully, because of my slow reading speed. The other part is that the english translation is poor and misleading at times

>>7160012
Cool bro but where can I read it?

>>7161005
Train hard
Eat a lot
Sleep well
Literally goku said this and they can’t even follow their own advice.

>>7163918
>going to the gym
>slop
Sigh… you should renaissance-maxx instead of imitating gooks, buddy.

>>7166745
Soulless. It just feels uncanny

>>7170911
examples?

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>>7170951
Renaissancemax ? What's that? This is /mmg/ you know...

>>7170974
I entirely overlooked the rule of rising and falling when I read Araki's book in English, thinking it was just a Shonen manga trait. When I read it in Japanese, he made it make total sense. I can see how it applies to literally every genre of story out there now

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>>7171046
Well that's exactly what I got out of the English version, but then that's just a very basic tenet of writing anyway. Is this perhaps the only book on writing you've read? Because it's quite surface level.

I would recommend you read some more, if you're interesting in more than just regurgitating shonen tropes

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>>7167305
You need to think of the world of your story as another character.
It needs proper care and attention. It doesn't need to be in every panel, in every page, it can be very simply done, but your viewers will notice it. Even if they (or (you)) think they don't. Look at how your favorite manga artist does it.
I'd recommend to not even think about AI in general, it is pure brain rot.
>>7168679
Fixing my diet and having fixed sleep hours helps.
I still get groggy so I just drink a ton of tea and wash my face in cold water. It helps...
>>7170225
I liked it.

>>7161005

I agree with fellow anons, sleep helps with memory retention of whatever you learned during the day.

>>7158672
Does anyone have an English copy of Akira Yoriyama's - Manga School? I can only find the one in Italian.

>>7171025
As in be a Renaissance Man. Philosophers in the general Italian/Greek region have long since emphasized that it's not enough to be smart or to be fit, a true scholar develops their mind and body simultaneously. Nothing should be left lacking.

>>7171107
to my understanding no such thing exists
the best I can offer is Mangadex has the first part of the book translated followed by the first three sections of part 2

>>7171076
no there's so much more anon

>>7171116
The Greeks are dead and old. I'd rather draw.

>>7170933
https://e-hentai.org/s/a3ec15320b/2909455-461

>>7171287
Went through it (as best as I could since I'm not Japanese obviously) - congrats again mate.

Do you guys just start drawing or do you type up an outline first?

>>7171365
damn we need a better sticky

>>7171366
I'm asking what each of you specifically do, not resources

>>7171365
When you say outline, do you mean storyboarding or script writing? For your sake I hope you do both.

>>7171365
Generally I have to start with at least an outline these days so I have something to pitch, then I'll storyboard. In the past I'd generally already have an idea of what I'm gonna do in my head so I'd just jump straight into storyboarding.

>>7170909
I just tried after seeing your post, the share link is way too long to be able to post it

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Welp, i end up using the first result that pop up in google, and that seems seemingly fine, so i wanted to use this opportunity to also compare betweeen the first page i ever made in digital

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>>7171530
With the first page of that i have finish now
(I know that seems bit unfinished, but i don't know what to use with the sidewalk and the streets)

Anyways here is the whole text
>>7167854

just
paste.
it slash
etv65

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>>7170225

>>7171532
Much better with backgrounds, at least there is no empty space like the ones you posted before.

>>7171025
Retard what do you think it’s obviously about drawing and working out at the same time to work both on your body and on your creativity

>>7171530
>kakimoji
based

>>7171544
this is one of my fave comics posted lately. Although not many people post their mangas in these threads.

>>7171287
Damn this looks Japanese as fuck you definitely deserved that honorable mention, are you Japanese?

>>7172119
Also I like how the characters seem at first a bit more like “normal” girls instead of hentai caricatures, it makes it a lot more interesting to read.

>>7172120
Yeah, I can't really get into any NSFW doujin if the characters look like insane hentai caricatures from the get-go. Like I get it, we're all here for one reason, but c'mon man.

>>7171530
lmao he looks like slash and paul dano's butt baby in this one
good improvement

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>>7171532
You desperately need an editor. I'll finish this later. cz5g5

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>>7172179
I really, i really appreciate the effort anon, but i thought that you mean that you would help me with the grammar, the spelling or the euphemisms, but i think that you changed too much
I mean no offense, but when i draw the panels and write the dialogue, i wanted that they feel... like co-related with what they said and what they did on the panel... or i that dialogue that you did doesn't show the personalities that i had thought for the characters

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>>7172223
No offense taken. I overhauled some lines because I couldn't understand what the characters were saying or what you intended for them to say. Anyways, I recommend working closely with an editor so they can translate your intentions as coherently and concisely as possible. Also, wouldn't it be better for you to write in your mother tongue, then pay a translator? I can't imagine writing a full fledged story in a language I'm nowhere near fluent in.

>>7172260
>Also, wouldn't it be better for you to write in your mother tongue
That anon has said that for some reason its harder for him to try to express things in his language than in English. I have no idea why, but whatever. I can speak/read two other languages with varying degrees of proficiency but you ain't gonna see me trying to write a comic in those languages.

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>>7172260
Like that anon said, it really hard to me express myself in my language, and i don't meant to blogpost to explain myself about it

But i came up with a plan

i will use the quillbot for the grammatics, and the i will compare the text side to side, to see if i like it, then i will mark all the marked sentences (that need to be premium to change them) and i will ask anons here or in /a/ to see if they can help me

that's the best that i got, and i hope that works

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After editing this for a while, it's necessary to correct all the grammar?
I mean i know i have to change some sentences where the order of words is fuck up, but some other things like caps (that can't really be noticed depending on the font), and punctuation (that can be shown in the bubbles speech) can be left alone isn't?

I thank God every day for making English my first language.

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>>7172368
I'm really sorry, i know it must be a bother having to bear me

But i also like to think that i'm doing just fine considering that it has been like 8 years since the last time i went to a class and learn anything new about english and that my only contact using the language has been shitpost on /a/ for the last five years

>>7172361
One of the major problems I had was simply that it was very confusing. It would be one thing if it was simple spelling, grammar, or punctuation errors, but the major problems are that it is difficult to tell who is talking sometimes, and sometimes what order the text is to be read in.

You have to realize that even minor errors tend to stick out. People can over look them sometimes, sure, but not even being able to make sense of the general idea that you're trying to get across, is just going to make people move on.

A person can understand the general framework of a language, but the problem becomes when you don't have the grasp of somewhat abstract concepts often found in these types of stories, and being able to properly convey them to the reader.

>>7172387
This is why I wouldn't want to use MTL to translate my shit to Japanese. It might be fine for something not really plot or dialogue heavy or with any technical terminology like a porn comic, but for a story with more substance I doubt it would be up to the task.

I think if I got to a point where I thought it had a shot in Japan, I would hire a real native translator

>>7172119
Not japanese (or any kind of asian), no.

>>7172120
>>7172137
Thanks, I try to make the situations/characters believable. Not realistic, but hopefully with enough reality that a reader could buy it. I know that when I read porn, a bit of reality enhances the fantasy, so that's what I'm aiming for when I write the characters/scenarios. Actually not even just in porn, I think the juxtaposition between realistic elements and fantastical elements is just an effective tool for drawing a reader in and making the setting and characters compelling. Like, for example, when the characters of a heroic tale make decisions that make you, the reader think "oh, that's not far off from what I would do in that situation" it suddenly makes the work a lot more engaging as the work has made it clear that it's working on a logic that you can relate to and understand. So when a porn situation develops in a way that the reader could see themselves in, it enhances the believability (and thus hopefully eroticism) of the work. As long as it's done well, lol.

>>7172388
>where I thought it had a shot in Japan, I would hire a real native translator

It's what I'm planning on doing for mine once I get to a point where I think I have enough material to justify the initial upfront cost. Although I'm not doing it so much for trying to make it in Japan, I'm doing it so I get to see fanart.

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>>7172514
>I'm doing it so I get to see fanart.
based

>>7172526
I'm like vanripper for that game Helltaker. I don't care if I ever make money from my manga. I just want dem drawings, lol.

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>>7172387
>but the major problems are that it is difficult to tell who is talking sometimes, and sometimes what order the text is to be read in.
I'm 85% sure that i can fix that with the speech bubbles and relocating the text better
The thing is that i don't know if everything just feel off and is wrong or if are just some parts, being in this loop of either rewriting everything or just correct some parts (which reading more slowly and with patience while editing i have been able to spot more and more mistakes)

For know, now with the grammar checked by the quillbot, i will focus on the text that was highlighted for suggestions

>>7168612
Help. Should I put the Madalena panel here like>>7164709 or keep the banshee only? I think it would mess with the aesthetic if I try to put more panels.

>>7172745
I think the original page 7 you have here >>7164709 is just fine, lol.

>>7172789
Really? Anyway I got two page 7 now kek

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By the way, before the thread ends, do anybody knows a good way of sharing a pdf? I refuse use imgur ever again to share something