What went wrong?
>>10906746I mean at least play it firstAlso I've been told it's more of a multimedia device than a game console. Plus it has the best version of Tetris I've seen
It looks like a VCR with a repainted Gravis joypad taped to it.
>>10906746It tried to answer a question literally nobody wanted answered: >What if Zelda, but Smurf?
>>10906746Making the system require a functional clock battery to operate and then encasing that battery inside a ceramic sarcophagus. Repairing those fuckers decades later requires full surgery just to connect a regular battery.
>>10906746it was created
>>10906746Cost and no/poor development backing with a heavy emphasis on FMV titles which aren't generally good and have limited replay value or playtime. It literally cost more than the neo geo which people actually wanted. Every system over 200 bucks did poorly. Supposedly they sold as much as the SegaCD at 400,000 units.SegaCD basically did the same - let you play FMV games but actually had genesis dev support behind it.I think I read it also lacked hardware support for sprite scaling/rotation as well - so basically, it's got poor support for built in sprite handling. They weren't leaning on it at all.That being said - it actually looks good for a system released in 1990 - nothing was gonna break that budget though.
>>10906926I think the CDi doesn't do sprites, everything is bitmapped images.
>>10906934It has no dedicated graphics hardware at all. All graphics are rendered in "software mode" by Motorola 68000.
>>10906871They still manufacture them, you can just replace the whole thing.
>>10906787The CD-i version of Tetris is the worst version of Tetris because the game suffers from game breaking issues like only being able to rotate to single direction, and input lag which makes level 8 or 9 completely unplayable
>>10906746>let's make a console that can't function as a console!
>>10906746they were right about everything>modern tv: music, music videos, movies, tv shows, cartoons, information, news, all at the whim of a click of a remote>encarta era: same but you needed a faggy disci spent many hours as a kid clicking on shit but we used a PC not an overpriced mediaplayer
>>10906746Lured into a trap by Nintendo to force them to waste billions so Nintendo could prevent Sony from entering the console business.
>>10906746>be philips>license the shittiest possible gamepad from gravisWhat did they mean by this?
>>10906829Considering the concentration of Dutch and French stuff on the system, I'm thinking a handful of people in the user base did ask that question
>>10906746the price
>>10906746The brain of the person that devised it
Basically>create interactive cd thing for your tv>can't make it cheap, only yuppies can afford it>make a bunch of interactive encyclopedia and museum shit, and about one game>the game sells>only games sell>"welp, it's a game machine now">it's actually a shit one>gets mogged by other failed cd consoles>is a joke and remembered only for memesThere
$799 US Dollars.
>>10907039>input lag which makes level 8 or 9 completely unplayableOn real hardware, or emulated?
>>10906871Is that like the Dallas batteries old PCs sometimes have?
>>10907719Both.
>>10907612On the one hand, while it's fine for those FMV adventure type games, they were overly ambitious with trying to make those Zelda and Mario games. On the other, if not for those games, it would've been forgotten almost entirely.
>>10906746The only time I ever heard of one of these was in about the late 90's when it was promoted as a cool new way to play your movies but now on cd. Not a single mention of its game playing abilities and it was being pushed as a high end luxury product. Only many years later did I realize this was CDI.
It was supposed to be launched at some point in the late-80s, but it kept getting delayed. When it eventually launched, it was obsolete.
>>10906746It was American.
>>10906746Overpriced multimedia player that released too late when its standard had little advantage to CD-ROM by a Dutch company for the American market. It was pointless as real high-end stuff was laserdisc (which was almost dead outside of Japan anyway) and multimedia PCs were popping-up at the higher end of the market with standalone CD players on the above average end. It is the king of its niche, but its niche just consists out of the Commodore CDTV (lol) and maybe the Pioneer Laseractive (unaffordable and a piecemeal machine relying on other systems), but its niche was retarded so obviously no one followed them up and decided to just make game consoles with a CD drive or computers with a CD drive rather than CD player that sort of runs software. It's 1+ million sold is underwhelming and not worth following up on due to obsolesence (though they did mull it over), but for an overpriced CD player that's fine in the very early 90s. Should've started rolling out at the intended 1989 though, price might've been justifiable and CD-ROM kinda sucked still.The 3DO is a more focused idea, actually settling on something rather than a do-all machine and even that, with a far more extensive advertising campaign and larger manufacturing capabilities, managed just 2 million shipped. Most Japanese people likely bought it for porn too as it wasn't covered by regulations, I guess a sale is a sale. Not like they'd ever have a chance against Sony anyway.
>>10906950So it's like they're fresh out of the oven, sounds soulful
An already expensive console requires an add-on to play video cd's and certain titles.
Saw this as a kid in Sears at mall. It had Golf in it because the salespeeson was old. Watched him futz around with a weird remote that didn't work well and be bored because it looked like a VHS "game" where you weren't really playing. Saw the price.and laughed out loud.Last time I ever thought about until years later for goofy Zelda and emulated it..Played golf and said "yep, that's what I remember.". Never played again.
>>10910159The Xbox?
>>10908527>likely bought it for porn too as it wasn't covered by regulations, I guess a sale is a sale. Porn was quite literally the only viable (niche) application for the assorted video CD formats of the time. Unlike VHS, which was good enough for regular films (eventually going mainstream after it won the consumer format war with BetaMax), CD-based videos have really bad image quality. While this isn't an issue for porn (the end result of porn is white goo on a tissue/sock/carpet, not cinematographic appreciation), it made any other type of movie (outside shitty Asian pirated bootlegs) an exceedingly hard sell.
>>10906746It was almost all Eurojank and multimedia shit like VISIT THE LOUVRE and FLOWERS OF ROBERT MAPLETHORPEThe Tetris port on it is ludo. Do recommend.
>>10906746Phillips sounds more like a brand for screwdrivers than a brand for videogames
>>10910159The megadrive with a 32x on top of it?
>>10911298>>10913032The Saturn had a Video CD card that enhanced FMV sequences in some games.
>>10906746exposed screw hole on the dpad really killed it for me
Only 2 action buttons.
>>10913092It's for a joystick. That controller is a licensed Gravis Gamepad.
>>10906950It gets so, SO much worseThe CPU in it isn't even a true 68k, Philips went ahead and made a "68070" that not only had to be clocked just shy of its MHz limit to get any performance out of it but still performs worse than a 68k because they somehow decided not having an address generator or standardized MMU was a great idea, but the sound hardware was so faulty that they had to scrap hundreds of thousands of assembled units before release to fix a major timing problem that fucked over game devs even harder
>>10913060yeah and it was used in such great titles as Chisato Moritaka: Watarasebashi/Lala Sunshine or Nightruth Voice Selection: Radio Drama Hen.
>>10906746It wasn't a dedicated gaming console, designing games for it was an afterthought. It was mainly a multimedia player that was cheaper than a multimedia-enabled personal computer. The CD-i reminds me of amateur VHS productions and public access television. It's shitty but has some goofy charm.
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>>10906871I feel like someone can come up with a DIY solution to this, with a microcontroller and a button cell.>>10907723Looks like it.
>>10906746What's the best way to emulate this shit?
>>10918647https://www.theworldofcdi.com/tag/tinycdi/
>>10906871looks replaceable to me bro
needed more mario
>>10906871I've bought my CDi 450 from an old man that made internal layout changes to the board so that replacing the timekeeper chip becomes really easy. Bless his heart, that knowledge will probably die with him.
>>10906958Yes, but "retail" prices have traditionally been insane, so a lot of hobbyists resorted to insanity such as >>10906871>>10918563My "DIY solution" is to buy a new one. You'll find no shortage or tards claiming they aren't made anymore or that they cost a lot. Yet I keep getting them for a fraction of what they claim they cost.If you're obsessed with making your own you could buy the model that doesn't have the battery and crystal and add them yourself. Or just buy that and the snap on cap that has those and then put them together. Don't even have to add two eggs to delude yourself into believing your actually making something.
>What went wrong?It's basically just a glorified DVD special features menu that tried way too hard to have actual games.
>>10908374retard