A thread for Melty Blood and associated Type Moon properties, Under Night In-Birth and other French Bread games./melty/+/unibg/ #111: Pools editionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/VNxDxzDf0a8?si=NUSxUssOWhiRZH9V>News:Under Night In-Birth II Sys:Celes is out on PC! Port is good nowThe full remake fan translation is now available! (http://tsukihimates.com/)Mahoyo Movie Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGSJUm6Eq2M TsukiR english release date listed for June 30th!FSN remastered releases 2024!Uzuki DLC August 2024!>UNI ResourcesUNI-101:https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1zsoIPd6fasc20EHZKp0GMzN4Y_564h3Rhy5ZI2UiZ70https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Under_Night_In-Birth/UNI2Matches: https://replaytheater.app/?game=unib>Dengeki ResourcesDownload and Rollback: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13xEvawJrCIsXpXghNbNIeK455HsFP8w4kh7kzP23HZQhttps://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Dengeki_Bunko:_Fighting_Climax/DFCI>Melty Resources:Training/Beginner paste: https://pastebin.com/01eXYrVfDownload MBAACC community version, and set up:https://play.meltyblood.club/https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/MBAACChttps://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Melty_Blood/MBTLhttps://pastebin.com/3fkP1jTC (MBTL Character Guides, kinda old now)Matches: melty.gamesTranslated Manga: https://mangadex.org/title/b19fcbaf-f35e-4cb3-a38b-2c6e0dbfff96/melty-blood-type-lumina-piece-in-paradiseBrowser OG Tsuki: holofield.fr/tsukiweb>Upcoming Tournaments/EventsFind JP Events with: https://meltyblood.typelumina.com/event/EVO Japan: April 27-29CB: May 24-26CEO: Jun 28-30CoN 2024, certainly: uhhhCEOtaku: Dec 6-8previous bread: >>471485758
baking at work jumpscarehave a nice day
Daily reminder that Sion has canonically fat tits.
Mike Tyson fornicating with Miyako.
>>475117660>>475120279thanks, new to the game so i appreciate the info
The theoretical biggest Noel...
The Dead Noel Theory...
>>475140202RIP
twitter banned the climax of night event accountevent is cooked
>>475148631wut for
>>475148631weird but theyll be fine
>>475149110didn't say, just "multiple violations"honestly I blame the lunar fan club>>475149527unban attempt rejected but hopefully arcsys can help out with advertising since it's part of the official tour
Aoko about to get gacha'd...
IT'S TIME
>>475161880All according to keikaku.
>>475161880interestinghow do people feel like the current balance in TL anyway? I basically stopped paying attention before they were even done releasing DLC. I remember hearing Ushi and Dantes were kinda underwhelming?
>>475162185they were pretty awful on release but were brought up to being equal with the other lower strength characters in the final patch.People do not like the current balance, pciel and roa are standouts as being difficult to fight. The balance isn't bad, you could see any character(except neco) in a top 8 and not be overly surprised. The top tiers are just sort of not fun to fight against.Personally I feel the changes to meter game made the game worse, there's way too much access to ex knockdown and extenders which removed a lot of choices in the terms of how to end or structure combos, and made characters with better ex moves to use in blockstrings more annoying(roa is a big issue here).
>>475148631>twitterSubsidies blood diamond mine karen*
>>475162185What the other anon said. Meter felt too free which led to risk-free meter usage for all.
Imagine being catcalled by Noel…
The Noel dollar…
>>475161880vlov, pciel and roa will somehow dodge the nerfs again
>>475178085vlov and saber will be buffed for no reason
>>475162185Agree with the others (I kinda like how free meter is tbqh. It's probably not for the best though). Another issue I have is I think combos should scale more off of BC counters, and I also think moon skills could use some tweaking, but I'm too retarded to think of a good way to do so.
>>475182383BC scaling hasn't been touched since release, and they've nerfed both shield itself and how strong the BC counter is(way less invuln) so I'm pretty fine with it at this point in time. I still habitually press it and it's rare that I win the RPS and get it to hit.My issue with moon skills is that as starters they are insane. Playing arc and doing 6BC into meterless 4K damage on a move that is 12f startup advancing, air unblockable, and safe on block just feels silly.MD MS clash is stupid and i hate it but it's sort of just a binary mechanic that is dumb. I try to not gamble with clash because of how easy strong players blow it up. You could make them more interesting to use/play around by giving moonskills during moon drive full on property invuln so people get like projectile invuln, low invuln(not just a hop that gets blown up by half the lows in the game anyway), or air invuln on specific moves but I wouldn't want that without adjusting the damage they do as starters.
>>475184067I'm not particularly good, but, I think I've had pretty decent success with it in the lobbies here (decent enough that it's not a very high priority on things I want to fix anyways). The risk-reward just seems pretty good to me. I think it makes more sense for BC counter be a relatively safer option that can get you a combo that leads to a hard knockdown if it lands, but also has a decent chance to get you out of the rps if it's shielded and your opponent doesn't also have/want to spend moon (similarly to how it's used after being shielded). I don't think you should be rewarded with a slightly scaled full combo (especially compared to a fatal B counter) because your opponent was too slow to react to the rps minigame (not to mention that it's one of the most abusable things that new players will probably get farmed by). I don't really have a comment about the MS stuff aside from agreeing about the damage. My monkey brain likes clashes, but I usually get shit on by people who actually know what they're doing and don't have the reaction time of a snail when they happen. Having specific properties on moves instead of just smothering everything in clash frames would be cool.
>>475184067>meterless 4K damage on a move that is 12f startup advancing, air unblockable, and safe on block just feels silly.You have described almost every special move in the game except they don't result in YOU taking 4k if someone presses D
Good morning.
Okay so now I'm really locking in
>>475190951The Takeuchi Claw™...
>>475161880The time has come and so have I
I hope the patch doesn't fix combo scaling and damage because I don't want to come back to this game.
>>475228701why not
>>475228701That's not happening so later
>Aoko's event in fgo is gagshitFirst Sion, now her...
>>475236786type moon fans are in a constant superposition of complaining about SoL/non-serious moments that the company has always been known for and complaining about revealing literally any meaningful plot beats in the gacha and both managed to happen
>>475236786Aren't most gacha collabs gagshit? I guess there's room to make a proper story when you're collabing with yourself but this is about what I expected still.
>>475237507Arcade collab was a serious story
>>475237507>>475237673The CCC one was serious too
mahoyo 2 when
>>475148631Len chads, we won!
>>475253578It's already back
>>475246579Soon evidently. FGO collab is happening for Mahoyo.apparently?
>>475198148noarc's best starter is counterhit 214B in the corner. She can get a good combo off of it midscreen but she has to use MDC to dash after them. 214A starter and 236A/B starters are only going to reach barely 3.8k or so without meter. The only big damage special moves she has are 623B which is 20 frames of startup and 236[A] which is 23 frames of startup.Most regular special starters will lead to around 3.6 or 3.7 meterless, and need an EX move to break 4k, unless they are a much slower move or a situational counterhit like ushi landing CH 623B near the corner.
mbtl?
>>475260043I'll play
>>475262649kw: /melty/
>shield A followup misses the punish against shield BCkuso
>>475268875Yeah the timing is pretty tricky
>>475259491I don't really care about the semantics of 400 damage this one special on one character when everyone spends a bar as a combo ender anyway.
>>475269432I usually don't have an issue timing it, the range of this character's followup looks so small I'm not even sure if it's possible to land the hit there in the first place.
>>475270982Wouldn't be surprised if you can't.
I can feel myself losing braincells fight the cat.
is the room messed up?
https://youtu.be/a3pt2XiG4LM?si=F4NoRwm5EbZPtg9_Tsukihime Remake on June 27th for PS4 and Switch. Nothing about a Steam release.Aoko's game is on sale on all platforms.
the double cat train otg...
it's been awhile...who's good/fun/decent/easy?
>>475270593ex adds 300-400 damage min. 4.5k after the meter is a lot more than 4.2k after the meter. because hp regen exists in this game you can't just say "everyone has 11k hp so it 3 touches either way."
>>475262987closed. ggs. >>475278082I don't know about fun, but I think pretty much all of the cast is pretty decent/easy.
GGs
>>475280737are not-underwayromano girl and not-danganronpa guy any decent/fun/not overly complicated for a shitter?
>>475285278NTA but not-underwayromano girl has abit of nuance to her playstyle (not too crazy hard just alittle different from the rest of the cast) and not-danganronpa guy seemed easy enough to pick up and play but was held back by his slower moveset compared to the rest of the cast from what I remember playing last.
>>475278082anyone who isn't mario, neco, DA noel, and aoko aren't too hard. only neco in particular is bad
Noel!
Guess I'll go to bed and try to wake up for Uni top 16. Kinda sad it doesn't even make it to day 2.
Noel butt
>Aoko's super form is no longer a rummage sale from the 90'sWhose wardrobe am I supposed to make fun now?
>>475306264she still looks like a dork, just a better dressed one
So what if you can see… Noel’s fat belly…
>>475313496it's visible from orbit
Noel love handles…
vatsisters...
No announcement or did I miss it?
Noel blubber…
>>475342392I'm not seeing anything online. Uzuki isn't supposed to be out until August so I wouldn't expect anything before EVO.
people hate me for playing gord now even though i'm just a newshitter
>>475342392what would they announce
>>475362836multi-cabinet lobbies
>>475354525How do you know they hate you? Do they only let you one-and-done instead of playing best of 3?
>>475373415it was a joke i haven't even gone online yet
Imagine if they gave Noel a low-profile with her 214X moves...
>>475389585imagine if noel fucking DIED that would be really fucking AWESOME
>>475396829That's not nice.
>>475396829take that back
Nocturnal Noel...
the top 2 uni characters are gord and gordit is just factually correct
MBAACC?
>>475420460sure
>>4754208823909
https://www.twitch.tv/fpgamenightblood
This 5A is driving me crazy
GGsI'm still not sure how that Nanaya Arc Drive hit you
>>475431613GGsThat one round where I was really high up in the air right? After it hit me I assumed it was a full screen super, I have no idea how that move works
>>475432219I just looked it up and the hitbox is both him and the clone and it's unblockable in blood heat. My head must have barely clipped your foot.
Noel at night...
>>475116439tidds
Noel, too damn big...
Good night bros
>https://www.twitch.tv/fpgamenightlumina on the telly
It's crazy, innit, Noel on the telly...
The marketable Noel pillow…
Good life with the Noel wife…
good morning bros
;ove
a shell...
gato
>>475527328gato...
egyptian
Kohaker
Noel getting the key to the food pantry...
>>475571402I see the tsuki, but where's the hime?
>>475571769
>>475574206bet she spent all week rehearsing that
>>475116439>can't tell if the new balance changes are going to be nerfs or buffs lmao for melty
>>475577247please kill yourself already
>>475582938fucking rude
Grilled Noel cheese…
Kohaku buffs incoming
Noel butt, I’m coming
>>475574206This reminds me of Bleach where Shinji stands in the same place as Rukia did for her introduction for his own introduction at the beginning of the Vaizard Arc.
Early Morning Sion
Noel clap…
just a few more days...
>>475574206I’d let Noel stand on my pole if you get what I’m laying down
I know it's hard, but some of you simply need to accept that Sion is in fact the stinkiest.
>>475664120*the most fragrant
Dead by Sion's smell
aokobros...
>>475664120Spoken like someone who’s never had a whiff of Noel’s butt
the ciel officevery powerful aura
Anyone up for AACC?
>>475681256Me when she gets nerfed in the patch>>475697696I'll play if you are still around
>>475701980Yeah just give me a moment to finish my meal
>>4757019807250
Completely forgot about spot dodges, are they even worth using?
That's a funny way to end it so let's stop there. GGs
>>475712509GGsHisui is kind of a menace. It's over if Kamone gives her j.6B back in the upcoming patch.>>475708395It lets you do this sick mixup!I think it pretty much sucks. Don't use it unless you are in a pinch.
>>475712816Bad Sion! Noooo!
>>475712816I'm not expecting too much but it would be great if characters got more moves like that one patch Aoko was returned 6[C] and Miyako 6B.
>>475116439Kaguya’s got me actin up. Got me thinkin about playing her.
Midnight Sion
>>475652884I'm honestly more impress that vlov was blocking
>>475739083Noel is just getting dumber because the world is getting smarter.
is kaguya hard to learn?
>>475752240Her combos are a bit weird to get used to, but one thing to know is that your aerial command dash move into grenades is a staple in most of them, and since the dash passes through them, you can use the same input as your dash to get the grenades.
Under Noel in-bed…
Noel spotted, tickling commenced.
Good morning
Good morning. I think I'd like to play some MBTL at some point today.
Do you think Sion has to make her long-ass braid every morning?
>>475747273Noel is getting dumber AND the world gets smarter, which means Noel is twice as dumb!
Yeah, I'd lsiten to Kaguyas advice...
Noel maid...
UNI FT20?
>>475850498sure
>>475852197kw noel
>>475852645ggs, I keep thinking I can run under the fireballs and it keeps not working.
>>475852197gg
A buffet of Noels…
gn
>>475912674me on the right
Why is this game so fun?
Noel as the ruler of the world…
I would marry Len
They say that the Noel will save us…
>>475276750ofc fucking tsukihime releases just as i start finally getting round to start fsnffs this always fucking happens
What should I get out of UNI2 and Lumina if I'm only going to get one to play local with a IRL friend?I don't play a lot of fighting games.
>>475977154Lumina is 50% off right now while UNI2 won't be on sale for a while, and the DLC will not be free. Other than that, just go with whichever looks cooler to you and your friend, I guess?
>>475978540i'm pirating lol. it's more about playing the better game in the limited time we have each week.seeing as UNI2 came out more recently, should I just go with that hoping the mechanics will be better?i have played both of them a bit, just not enough to make a good call on what's better
>>475978806Lumina's mechanics have a bit of a mixed reception. The shield, combo damage, clashing, and rapid beat are commonly complained about. UNI is probably a safer bet unless you have a big issue with the GRD meter or difficulty
meltyded
The Noel belly bump…
It's over.
Melty's fate was bound to Sion after all. No more Sion, no more melty...
I'm just trying to chill out until the stream, relax
>>476023030When is the stream?
>>4760235073:00am PDT, just under 7 hours from this post
soon
Sion blast!
Noel fluff...
>>476040248>>476023507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpxOW5W-K0o now
is everyone ready for FGO announcement?
CROSSPLAY?! CROSSPLAY?!
More stages to use Noel on
>>476059436
Boy they nerfed the shield counters that much
>Added a new move
Is kohaku good now?
Noel is back
>>476063076
ROA'S NEEDLE FINALLY NERFED LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>476063249Honestly too much of a nerf
>open stream>whole page of vlov buffsyeah okay
kamone is inside my walls
what the fuck Saber heals herself
>saber buffs
>>476063076Being able to jump cancel keys seems kind of nutty
>>476064227That’s one of her most important abilities she can regenerate
I wonder if Kohaku has a real DP now
Are they reworking shield at all?
>6 slides of aoko changes
These changes are pretty questionable so far
tl;dr for the lumina changes?
>>476067458Everyone getting buffed except Roa
>>476067458all character got buff, we Strive damage now
>>476067653>>476067683that was last year's balance patch, now what were the lumina changes?
>>476067734If you’re curious it’s all written on official twitter account
>Nerf Roa because high execution characters aren’t allowed to be good in modern games>Buff everyone else
>>476069048>roa>high executiontime to get a real job, tranny. or go back to vlov/tohno, whichever one lets you pretend you're good at fighting games
>>476069048Roa is not THAT high execution. Definitely not enough to justify his insanely oppressive neutralP. Ciel should have gotten nerfed too. This all buffs BS is tiring
>>476069048Roa isn't high execution
c... c.... crossplay?
>>476070047lol
if you're mad at the lumina balance patch buffing everyone, remember: it's your fault for still playing lumina and thinking kamone wouldn't make a retarded patch (again)
So nothing changed right
>>476071354Shield got nerfed, a couple things got nerfed, rest were buffs
>>476072289>shield got nerfedIs it an actual nerf, or is it the jap style nerf where they said they nerfed it but it's really a nothingburger?
>>476072379huge damage nerf, can't reshield after shield B is shielded
Do you think roas bad now?
>>476073417No
They should have nerfed P ciel but honestly good patch apart from that
Where were her buffs?!
most of the buffs seem like pretty minor quality of life things, aside from hehe funny changes like avalon healing. The nerfs are good. I'm not sure what the extent of the universal jab nerf is and how much it will affect but it seems targeted at jab OSes so I'm glad because fuck that shit.Some characters didn't need what they got but I guess these little bumps are cool anyway.I'm unsure what all the stuff about moon skills at the start meant. Less cost when used in combos but also you gain more moon gauge in general? "Abandoned the mechanic that slows down the generation of moon drive when it is not activated" so you can just throw them out more now?
Shield counter damage is whatever, but not being able to reshield out of the B counter is gay.
Also the new stages are cool (even if none of them are technically new), but I wish they added more classic melty music with them.
she got her presents already
Oh thank goodness, the patch was nothingburger
Arc's j.C really needed a buff, thank you Kamone (unironically).
>>476089684not really
Most known TL players are really that pissed with PCiel buffs it soured the mood towards the patch despite notable "good" changes. As her main, it's not that I'm going to stop playing PCiel, yet her being heavily perceived as "cheap" has put me into a bit of doubt whether I can enjoy maining her or not. I am aware of such cheapness and I know nobody likes being insta-shot by 236A, but I really do like her, her playstyle, and her stupid powerful normals.I will see if the patch will rack some chaos into the meta again but thanks to that stream, she is one hell of an enemy of the state right now, and possibly, the one who may kill the playerbase for good even before the Red Garden update. I'm feeling a little discouraged by that sentiment ngl.
>kamone's pet character goes an entire version untouchedhuh i wonder where i've seen this before
>>476096231can't not gonna take the opinions of na players that seriously sorry
>>476096231Weak. If you like her, play her.
>>476064605This is the best I can do.
>>476096231Dude don't let people stop you from playing shit. That's letting them win
>>476096231Learn to enjoy choosing to play a very strong character. It’s honestly such a great feeling once you embrace it
>>476078404I look like this
>>476118637Where do you live?
PCiel is the only character I've played since she was released.She still feels like the most 'new' thing that Lumina has to offer.
Patch notes?
Kamone is a hack>>476121959https://x.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1785975539876209031
>>476118637london?
time to lab shit
>buffed the meme 623[c]Based
>>476145724I didn't even know that had a charged version what the fuck
For me, it's playing my favourite character.
>>476154410as always
so the patch note about "slowing down the generation of move drive when not activated" is actually something about moon skills being faster in moon drive. This was a mechanic and they have removed it.
roa
Noel is diseased... rotten to the core.
>>475116439Yeah, I’d get hit by Kaguyas TOD combo.
Noel in the morning dew…
Noel gut
blood! in a weekit got here so fast
ciel
Games tonight?
i very often feel like akatsuki is a low tier character even if he doesnt suck, he requires a lot of patience to play and you gotta respect a lot of shit that you dont with other charactershe is my main since my first undernight game (unist) and i really like him, but i think i might go back to my roots of playing like a bitch and find me a zoner or a trap character i am thinking of learning either carmine or vatista
>>476279204i had a public lobby for uni2 up earlier had a few ppl join but never at the same time
>>476307531SOVL..
tired Good morning
just a couple more
>og melty literally the biggest AFG there is at some point>sequel releases>80% of the old fanbase despises it>still kills old meltyhow
>>476335234good riddance
Noel spooning…
Cool Riesbyfe Fact's: If you see this tiny image from the manga, you can see another member of Ries' order wearing her same outfit, which means Ries' clothes are actually a uniform! And Ciel calling her a crossdresser was just Ciel being a nigger as usual
>>476335234"80%" of the fans of any popular fighting game don't actually play or care that much beyond it being the popular thing
>>476335234If they made the steam version have rollback it would live again
Look at how cool she is!
>>476355506yep
>>476335234You could say the same for under night. Nothing like any of the old melty bloods but still killed and surpassed it.
>>476358683kw: noel
>>476335234>literally the biggest AFG there is at some pointPretty sure that's just GG and then BB and then DBFZ and now GGST. Melty to me will always be niche fighter that you had to use IRC to find people to play with.
>>476361435there was possibly a time when MBAA would have beaten BBCT in japanese arcades but it wouldn't have lasted very long.
Noel-sensei…
I'm coming up with the smartest plays here
>>476358683gg
>>476372694GGs
Smol
Deader than Noel
need a French girl doing flips on my shit this instant
>>476403667
Is it true that DAN will have easier combo routes with the new balance update? It appeared to be the case according to what Kamone was saying but I'm a dekinai so I didn't get everything he was saying.
Noel hag pussy…
I got first in DFCI at my local!
>>476418813Congrats anon, good to hear
Sion Sunday...
Dumb and dumber,Dumbest Noel!
>>476411839Looks like it
>>476443714Noel getting robbed by nice old ladies...
i can finally run MBAACC on my desktop again, just required me to reinstall windows and get a new GPU
Noel...
>>476466150Make sure you download the new training mode mod toohttps://x.com/downloadmelty/status/1786907802536992870
>>476488589that was what reminded me to try it actually
>>476488589Does this work with Concerto?
>>476492294it hooks into training mode
Noel stank…
Is it true that you get banned from competing if you play Noel
>>476506498only if you play in PSN tournaments
>>476506498Only Hat Noel is banned
>>476506498Only if you smell and are fat
I need the dumbest Noel you have... No, that's too dumb.
Paperwork with Noel…
Is Noel the most popular TM girl here?
Does anyone have a 3240x1080 wallpaper of Aoko or just mahoyo in general?
>>476539858I don't have/can't find anything that fits without cropping
>>476536106Noelposting is fun at the very least
The Sion will return...
The Sion hasn't returned...
>>476548671Its ok I'm going to try my luck with stable diffusion...
when's the patch
>>476594273tomorrow i think
>>476595294dang
sooner
Longer time to whiff punish Noel... oh yeah.
>>476594273
How do you guys want him to look like in Remake?
>>476630170It's probably going to be this.
>>476564501Who??
CB2024 entrants:TK8 1,620SF6 1,432GGST 863GBVSR 674UNI2 606MYST 512SSBU 405MK1 274XRD 2383S 221SSBM 194KOFXV 187SG 167UMVC3 164BBCF 159DBFZ 146KI 139VSAV 117MBTL 103SS7 73DNF 61TFH 60MOTW 60NASB2 48
>>476656935Pretty decent numbers for UNI2
>>476656935Luminabros what happened?
>>476667313only 150 people ever liked melty blood to begin with. back in 2012 this was a big number.
>>476667313It's a bad game
>>476677226That shouldn't get in the way of its success.
Is there anyone in uni2 who doesn’t use dash attacks in their combos? They’re fucking me up.
>>476686481Have you tried doing buffers for them? Makes it much easier to do them in combo. Also some characters like Enkidu, Gordeau and Mika see limited usage of dash attacks in their combos outside of particular routes IIRC.
>>476689950Maybe I’m doing it too early or late or something. I’ve tried Merkava mostly but just in general I’m inconsistent with dash attacks.
Patch is out now
>mechanic wants you to use moonskills in combos to do more damage>my character can't use moonskills in combos without doing less damagegreat time to play like nothing has changed
So let me guess, nothing changed with the top tiers ?
2024 and Noel’s butt is still a one-hit kill…
>>476702982they fucked roa, kouma, and aoko