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"Debutante" Edition
Archives & Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/wETipqYw
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>Thread Question: Do you remember your dreams?
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>Shit art
>2 much text
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>>92575538
THE MAGI CASE IS REAL
https://imgchest.com/p/ej7mn6lmayd
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hey tok do you have like a repository of all your CYOAs somewhere
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>>92575626
Based Snek cunny! Fordffags are just jobbers who craft items for their betters
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>>92575626
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER
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>>92575651
It's in the pastebin if you scroll all the way down you can find a link to my googledrive in the comments
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>>92575580
Could make a holy relic out of this
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>>92575670
aight, thanks mate
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SO HIGH
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It truly was The Magi Case: Fragmented Bloodlines ©.
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>Devil's state still can't escape definition of "magic" despite the fact that Nothingness has nothing, kek, in common with Creation.
>the only reason I can understand is incorrect, too direct method of reaching Nothingness

What if we do it indirectly, without trying to define Nothingness as "something beyond death that can be reached"? Let's "invite" Nothingness in a pseudo-comprehensible manner by using Runecraft-based language of negatives to define desirable effects as something that they are not. Magic is used to simply negate Reason in a specific way and be equally negated by it achieving literally nothing. And what comes when Creation and Reason neutralize each other definitely isn't "magic", but nothing, Nothing at all.
You can't become incarnation of Nothingness this way, but Devil's state is shit anyway.
Will this work against Drac? Will this work at all?
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>>92575646
I don't think I would side with either desu since I like both, I like monvoir but I couldn't justify picking him as a companion with all the others and only having 6 slots this time around
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>Named Drac
>Not a Dragon
>Not a Dracula
I'm upset.
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OC for you
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>>92576008
As a proud American I forgot 10 of these states existed and didn't know Maryland was MD.
-Texan
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>>92576008
Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida. Alaska I guess, I don't care about the power but I'm not changing any of my choices.
>Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNr9FnpZBk
>But you didn't take the Mason-Dixon Line!
Maryland sucks, you know it's true.
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>enter the cyoa thread
>they're still discussing magi case
well, see y'all next week
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good riddance
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>>92576008
From new home to old home
Texas -> Arkansas -> Missouri -> Iowa -> Minnesota

Gaining me the powers Indomitable Spirit, Leadership Aura, Dimensional Gateways (which actually just act as short range teleportation within our dimension, rather than a gateway between dimensions), Animal Form Shifting, and Fish Magic.

Seems I have gone for a commander build, with a built in escape option to retire into obscurity if I fail to conquer the world.
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>>92576142
OC and two comments about it literally immediately before your comment.
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>>92575626
More authors should put together a fake soundtrack for their CYOAs.

>>92576142
Nobody is discussing Magi Case anymore just shitposting by a certain authorfag. It's over.
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>>92576008
>MN just has fish
Come on, you could at least give us giant magic
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>>92576209
Paul bunyon was a curb con bitch
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>>92576239
But Slue Foot Sue could get it.
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>>92576008
NC > TN > AR > OK > CO

So that gives me Leadership, Stone Stare, Camouflage, Rope Trick, and Walking Horse. I'll go ahead and choose Hawaii to swap Colorado's Stone Stare for New York's Convalescing Dream so I can become the Man with no Name, travelling across America to reignite the American Dream and vanishing just as soon as I'm done with each task.
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>>92576008
Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Alaska.

Guess I am an Invincible mountain mover, so guess I'll go swimming and carving out a new river system that windes the continent, letting me instantly travel anywhere I want to go. while leaving behind statues and kids in my wake.
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>>92576008
New Hampshire -> Massachusetts -> New York -> Connecticut -> Rhode Island -> Alaska

New England chads stay winning. With powers like these I'll get to sail around the world and experience the good old days with my soulmate while truly living the American dream. Call me the admiral, fun OC anon.
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Alright, here’s some OC:

You’ve just finished your CYOA, but alas, Italics just came out with Magi Case last week, and everyone’s still shouting about it.
Do you:
a)Release it anyway, hoping it will stand on it’s own merit.
b)Try to integrate it into the skub, maybe posting about how your PC type could beat a Magi or Auctor or whatever.
c)Attempt to hype your OC by delaying it a year while posting it about it every week or so to build your own unstoppable hype momentum.
d)Don’t bother posting at all, because no one will notice.
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>>92576365
Release it anyway. Stop being a punk ass bitch.
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>>92576365
Release. Italics is gonna dangle Magi Redux for several years while releasing slop in between. It'll take a couple of months for anons to go back to ignoring him so you may as well release it now.
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>>92576365
E. Play Magi Case and join in with other anons. Release it when the hype has died down.
Exhibit A. >>92576008
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>>92576365
This anon >>92576008 didn't wait

Grow some balls and pull the trigger
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>>92576380
>It'll take a couple of months for anons to go back to ignoring him so you may as well release it now.

That's funny way of saying "spam pics of waiting skeletons, while asking the thread when Italics will release redux".
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>>92575626
Overlapping cyoa question: If (you) were a Prodigal from the Planeswalker Rising cyoa, and stumbled across the Magic Case setting, which clan(s) do you think would be most useful?

Initially I was thinking Aozdou, as their Auctor did something conceptually similar to hiding the Citadel. So she might useful insights.

However, reading through the clan profiles, the Atman clan might have some thoughts on how to subvert the soul curses the Scholars use to control their rookies.

Anyone else look promising?
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magi case discussion is already over, the only anon actively talking about it is evocoanon and nobody ever replies to him
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>>92576008
NV > AZ > UT > WY > NE

NV: Luck Embodiment
AZ: Archeological Intuition
UT: Bridging Portal
WY: Call For Peace
NE: Laconic Appeal

Hawaii: Air Drop - Change UT to MO (Dimensional Gateways)

My plan is to luckmaxx by finding artifacts and placing them in Nevada. When I think I have enough, I'll gateway into congress while it's in session and blow the peace horn, then gateway out again before I get shot to bits. That should stop a lot of war in the world.

After that I'll ask the Nebraska site for advice on happiness while stuffing the Texas site full of artifacts to make myself the luckiest guy in the world.
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>>92576441
I'll post my build tomorrow but I don't expect much engagement.
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>>92576008
Comfy Northwest, least amount of black people and mexicans without having to deal with faggy new englanders
>Montana
>Idaho
>Oregon
>Washington
>Alaska
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>>92576440
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>>92576441
FordGODS are no longer carrying discussion, Magi Case is finished. We're all waiting for the Redux now.
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>>92576441
An Italian grandmother weeps because of the lasagna took her 12 hours to make from scratch was devoured in 17 minutes.

The Italian italics weeps because the magic hates it took him 5 years to make by hand was consumed in only two weeks.
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>>92576380
>while releasing slop in between
Echoes PSY?
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>>92576449
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>>92576440
Galileo
Use Eldritch Truth to break into the Citadel.
Maybe be killed in the process though.
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>>92576440
Obviously Elemancy. It's literally reality warping, except most are too shit at it to use it at its full potential.
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>>92576447
You fucked up, you get five plus Alaska or Hawaii
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>>92576450
You mean those jobbers who are not even top 10?
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>>92576460
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>>92576468
But he's not in the bottom 10 eihter.
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>>92576483
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>>92576464
Ooops I choose Canada then, it should've been a state anyways, I don't care about the perks.
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>>92576482
the old tierlist is invalid, ford is now dead last as he should be
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>>92576468
Ford solos all of them with prep, like a Batman vs Superman situation.
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>>92576492
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Ultimately how does Italics mages stack up against Fate mages?
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>asks the same question again for the 12th time
What is his endgame?
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>>92576440
Talking with Karrylicht would be interesting given her backstory's goal was about crossing over into another world. She's able to enter Possible Worlds so discussing planes might make for fun discussions.
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>>92576454
We're still going to have Magic Case discussion pop up every once in a awhile.

You fucks act like Magic Case is already dead.
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>>92576517
To be annoying. In other news, tok is a closet troon and italics is a failed novelist
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>>92576446
ill respond to it anon, as long as it isnt a shopping list. Nobody responded to ours so we'll get you
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>>92576530
I can bring it back:

Why did Italic's attempt to make another controversial waifu like the Giratina girl from PPPP++ in Magi Case fail? Elspeth was a total flop.
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>>92576624
Elspeth was not a flop - she easily had one of the most interesting "hidden" cases and provided you with actual importance in the setting. A lot of people complained about feeling like an npc but she's one of the reasons you aren't.
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>>92576624
she's one of only two characters that has a following that bothered to make any oc for the cyoa, I wouldnt call that a flop
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>>92576659
>>92576660
Other than you everyone hates her, though.
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Elspeth is a stupid name that reminds me of that ditzy bitch from the cryosleep CYOA and everyone fapping to her (including Italics) is only attracted because she uses Rin's picture.
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>>92576660
>Time/Space fags spam Rin
>Summon/Mana fag spams Orochi
>None of the other popular combos spam their waifus
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>>92576667
>other than you (plural)
lmao
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>>92576511
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>>92576624
She is cute but i am not sure if i would be willing to help her
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>>92576678
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>>92576674
She's not actually Rin. It's an OC called "Elisia Valfelto" whose artist designed her as "the prettiest girl in the world."
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>>92576676
>none of the other combos have the creative capacity to make memes about their characters
i fixed it for you
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>>92576677
There's more than one of us but sure - regardless of your standing on her she generates discussion
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>THIS CHARACTER ITALICS MADE IS SUCCES...
>Its just Rin
Yes. Such great writing.
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>>92576710
>>92576703
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>>92576704
It'd be kinda hard to shove Ostane, Shangdi, Tian, and Liqiu all in one image.
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>>92576703
>>92576710
>>92576715
Ironic how a lot of her haters were complaining that she was unlikeable and not like Rin
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>>92576723
>point proven
dont let your dreams be memes anon, if I can fit 12 monster girls on one image you can fit 4 characters. I believe in you
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>>92576659
What if I don't want my importance to be "The Time Devourer has a crush on you"?
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>>92576736
That is the point. She just looks like her and that is all she has. That is literally the reason people like her. Everything else is headcanon, had she looked like a different character, they simply would have picked someone else.
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>>92576745
You're free to choose some other avenue of relevance but taking the timestream and spending eternity with the time devourer will be mine.
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>>92576753
She's got more going for her than that, especially when you consider the questions Italics answered.
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>>92576775
Such as?
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>>92576723
shit anon i'll even help you, maybe later if you want I can try to make something if you ask

i'm not some great photoshopper, i'm pretty shit all things considered, tools I use to get the transparent png cutouts are
https://www.adobe.com/express/feature/image/png
https://onlinepngtools.com/create-transparent-png
both of those can be used to make it easy for me to crop and adjust things on a picture. That's pretty much all I use to make these. I honestly wish more people put in the small amount of effort to make shitposts. Stuff like >>92575663 is done in photoshop, which i don't have. but if you did and know what you're doing, you could make stuff easier and better than what i'm doing
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>>92576624
>make another controversial waifu like the Giratina girl from PPPP++
You mean Pasille?
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>>92576008
Is it cringe to enjoy short cyoas like this?
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>>92576800
Pasille was controversial but in a different way. I don't remember Pasille wanting to kill anyone.
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There is nothing even wrong with Elspeth to hate. She's overall a good introduction character who you would think is the desiginated waifu on an adventure. But the further you look into her, the more you find out that she isn't completely good and has ambitions like any other person, you included. One ambition is to overthrow her Auctor for magical power but even ignoring that she is pretty nice.

Objective PoV btw
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>>92576775
She literally has next to no personality and the only ones picking her are rinfags because she looks like her, which is insulting because Rin is a top tier waifu with an impeccable design (best Fate girl) and comparing her to some no personality bitch is insulting. If her appearance were different nobody would give a shit.
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>>92576819
>she isn't completely good
It's more like "she isn't completely evil because she has one positive trait."
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>Retards think they're getting Monster Girl Encyclopedia waifus
>Monsters like Homunculi posted by Italics look like Resident Evil bio-weapons and the Monsters you hunt in one of the cases are spooky as fuck pack roamers.

Evocotards really?
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>>92576827
>She has next to no personality.
Why do you shitpost? You learn about her a character and her personality from 3 other characters in the same fucking Clan. Ager talks about her selfishness and true goals, Sara discusses how kind she is and builds a cult like manner around her a savior-mentor figure something which she shares with you as her apprentices, and she is cunning by recruiting aspiring members of the Clan that don't care for the worship aspects of her and are the same predatory nature she is to achieve political success.

Just because you can't read and infer character personality, doesn't mean others cannot.
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>>92576849
>he doesnt know
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>>92576849
Every Magi power and build relies heavily on headcanon so don't be surprised when anons thinks they're getting monstergirl waifus instead of abominations.
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>>92576834
>"she isn't completely evil because she has one positive trait."

Delete this now.
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>>92576849
>Monsters like Homunculi posted by Italics look like Resident Evil bio-weapons
That's because those Alchemists are completely without artistry and talent, just bashing together materials until they get something that vaguely works. As a master Alchemist, my homunculi are going to end up looking more like this.
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>RE Bio-Weapons
You're going to make him cry, he's not that ugly.
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>>92575626
>Name
Akatsuki Hajimeru Aozdou
>Gender
Female
>Age
Young Adult
>Investigator Background
Life of the Mundane Magus
>Investigation Unit
The Magical Anomalies and Monster Activities Unit
>Investigation Rank
First Class
>Family Position
Upper Family
>Clans
Aozdou/Lionheart

>Skills
Bloody Fighter
Combat Veteran
Fragmented Bloodlines
Instinctual Survival
Magic Resistance
Mana Burst
Mana Reservists
Martial Weaponry

>Items
Investigation Team Contract
Katana x2
Sealing Collar
The Characteristic Examinations of Mystical Monsters and Their Natural Abilities
The Grimoire of Magical Spells and Anomalies

>Spellcasting
Projection
>Magic
Sealing/Defense

>Cases
The Academic Days of A Magi Investigator
The Soul of the Cyber Conspiracy
The Burial Under the Sea
The Life and Works of a Mad Alchemist

>Apparel
SAT
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>>92576865
Thats asking too much from them anon.
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>>92576849
The bio-weapons are easy. But you can make something cute if you are not skill issued.
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>>92576894
A noblewoman of the Aozdou Clan who takes great pride in being a warrior. Her youth was spent enjoying stories of loyal samurai and heroic ronin, as well as causing trouble by challenging her peers to duels. With that in mind, she naturally views the clan's Auctor as her lord while Yugure is viewed more as competition than anything. That isn't to say that she views the current Archmagus negatively or covets the responsibilities of her station. Rather, she simply desires to be the greatest at enacting Hirohashima's will and doesn't want to be bothered with the clan's politics. As she grew older she became more keen on the idea of being a wandering swordsman who turned up to deliver salvation to the downtrodden. This is what eventually led her to join the Bureau and rise to become a respected investigator. Despite her rank placing her in a more managerial role, she still prefers to be hands-on when handling cases and will usually have an unlucky subordinate handle the paper-pushing. Those who mistake her lust for adventure as a lack of care will quickly find out how effective she is at punishing those who break the Bureau's policies.

Her self-identification as a warrior is well-earned. With a naturally strong body and skill with the blade, Akatsuki is formidable in a fight even without relying on magic. However, her ability to use both Sealing and Defense magic makes her an even fiercer opponent. A blade that rejects all that resists it, including the distance that might prevent it from reaching its target, is powerful enough, but these abilities shine especially bright when dealing with the magically inclined and other odd entities. By applying the principles of both methods, Akatsuki is able to effectively disable and restrict nearly any foe that stands against her. It's no surprise that she was approached to put her talents to use in the Special Activities & Tactics Unit as they allow her to be quite flexible when dealing with sensitive matters.
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>>92576904
>Relationships
HiroHashima Aozdou - Her dedication to the clan's Auctor and her talent have afforded her some special favor. Having stumbled into her realm after accidentally piercing the seal, she caught HiroHashima's attention and has since been allowed more expected intrusions. Their time together has allowed Akatsuki to understand the Acutor and what troubles her, thus she's made it her goal to teach her "love." This goal is not free of personal motivation, however. She hopes that with understanding Hirohashima will be able to to better appreciate her dedication.
Yugure Owari Aozdou - Akatsuki's primary teacher, though she doesn't take after her much. Where Yugure revels in the power she holds and the fear it strikes into others, Akatsuki wishes to use her talents in service of others and to inspire adoration. Though besting others in combat is quite satisfying in its own right and only a poor student wouldn't to surpass their teacher. Despite their differences, they still get along and agree that it is best to not spark trouble with the other clans. She prefers to keep herself unfettered by the conspiracies of the faction vying for control of the clan's destiny.
Yomihana Hinode Aozdou - were naturally drawn to each other as a consequence of their mixed heritages and were further bound by the roles they enjoyed playing. While Yomihana enjoyed the part of the princess she believed herself to be, Akatsuki served as her retainer and satisfied her. Their friendship and this arrangement have continued into adulthood, with Yomi expecting to be pampered and have her honor defended should it somehow prove necessary.
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>>92576891
>>92576892
The CYOA make the human-human ones sound extremely rare/hard to make and the monsters the most common since they can be used.
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>>92576894
>>92576904
>>92576908
>Aozdou/lionheart
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>>92576908
>Relationships
Gwendolen Hagia Lionheart - With cousins in the Lionheart Clan, it's not unusual that Akatsuki might visit some of their holdings. Especially when she holds their history of great knights and dames in high regard and feels that she could learn much from them on her path as a warrior. When Hagia approached her during her travels she was caught entirely off guard and was nearly reduced to kowtowing. While she loves HiroHashima above all, Hagia is "the noblest of warriors" and something approaching her ideal. However, Akatsuki also reveres Hagia for her kindness. Somewhat shamefully, she enjoys receiving it in place of her Autcor's.
Berengaria Ethewulf Lionheart - It was through Yugure that the two met. Their relationship is somewhat less warm than the others Akatsuki maintains but is still plenty amicable. Working together on the Special Activities & Tactics Unit has forged the sort of bond that only comes with surviving such harrowing situations. Akatsuki often confides in Berengaria about things she feels she simply can't share with even those closest to her. Their work keeps them together often enough to raise suspicion, and it doesn't help that Akatsuki loathes the idea of not maintaining a healthy relationship outside of the time they're obligated to spend together.
Eleanor Herleva Lionheart - A kindred spirit met at the Bureau Academy. Their shared fondness for heroics drew them together instantly and they've preferred each other as hunting partners since. Akatsuki showers Eleanor with sisterly affection and enjoys regaling her with stories whenever they have to spend time apart. Unsurprisingly, Eleanor is her favored sparring partner. Where Yugure is a challenge to overcome, she hopes that they can both sharpen their skills until there is no doubt that they are the heroes they've aspired to be.
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>>92576911
My post literally says:
>>92576891
>As a master Alchemis
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>>92576865
All that tells me she is she's a generic opportunistic, conniving bitch. Literally nothing else. I still can't imagine any situations with her or her reaction to certain events. There's no depth to her character.
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>Hobbies? She likes playing fighting video games since they are so fast paced and if she fights a player who is too good against her, whether online or in-person she'll just chronomancy to figure out counters and read their inputs. She also likes to collect and play visual novels, especially those with multiple endings, but recently found the current generation to be lacking and having no balls for true bad endings. She also likes to collect old stuff from the early-2000s when she was in her teens for nostalgia..
They won't be playing Tekken with their wife - ngmi.
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>>92576911
Then don't have an skill issue. Get good at it.
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>>92576928
>She can play ALL fighting games like they were YOMI hustle because of her chronomancy.
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>>92576911
my plan was to make a deal with the ostane auctor to start a (bigger) homunculi body trade for monsters and their masters
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>>92576927
>I still can't imagine any situations with her or her reaction to certain events. There's no depth to her character.
Tell me you have no creativity without telling me you have no creativity. If you can't imagine eternity with her you don't deserve her.
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>>92576008
I don't know much about america, but I hear the central western states have some good fossil beds.
>Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming
Super luck, petrification power, teleportation and peace horn.
Nice. So I can luckily bump into cuties, petrify them, teleport them back to my homes to decorate them with fossilised cuties, and if anyone has problems with that I can blow my horn at them until they calm down and go away.
>Alaska
Forcefields over Peace horn is a possibility for dealing with angry mobs, but I don't think I really want to change it. So I guess I'll take Alaska.
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>>92576008
WI-IL-IA-NE-SD
Pick states near where I live and it was very comfy. Long term happiness with NE and become a real estate mogul with IL. SD is also very convenient and has many utilities. WI and IA are whatever but they are nice to have I guess
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>>92576891
>master Alchemist

This is another gripe I have with you idiots, why do you all assume you have already mastered your respective fields of magic to pull off all magical realmy and Archmagus and Auctor level stuff?
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>>92576964
1. I didn't say I 'already had'.
2. My character is 40 years old, I'm not playing some 18 year old newbie.
3. Making cute homunculi is not an Auctor level feat, as proven by this >>92576872 where they're made by regular Ostane alchemists to sell as a product.
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>>92576894
Build saved.
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>>92576972
>40 years old
So you're hag.

You can't win this anon.
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>>92576942
Oh I can imagine a billion different scenarios with Rin/Ishtar. Not a single one with Elspeth since she's not a real character. Here why don't you write a SOL moment with her as your wife keeping in her character. Say while on a beach vacation. It'll be piss easy I'm sure.
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>>92576993
Bro did you forget what clan I'm in? Immortality is a fucking meme for us.
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>>92576927
>Noooo she has no personality.
>Okay, she has personality, but it's nothing else.
>I can't imagine how she would react to things
>Uhh there's not character depth
Okay, shitposter.
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>>92576928
>>92576933
>YOMI
You guys are alright. Don't come to the Ager Clan homeland tomorrow.
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>>92577037
Literally this, the best part is I'll probably still end up indulging his SOL request because it'll be fun.
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>>92577051
Don't worry I'll be there ready to cut down Chronos with my wife.
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>>92576008
>Arizona
>-New Mexico
>-Colorado

>Hawaii
>-Wisconsin (Colorado)
go nocturnal, gather artifacts, build a fortress of night blooming cereus
>>92575538
>A Stranger

>A Warehouse

>Connections

>Found a Circle
>Bind the Weak
>Deal with Men
>Deal with the Other

>Familiar
>Demesne
>Strong Sight

>A Rival x2
>Disfavored
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>>92575626
I am out of loops with Magi Case but why aren't immortality more widespread? Some methods are limited by stuff like Memetic Imprint should be easy to replicate if one knows how. I just want to live forever
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>>92577083
The general population is just skill issued.
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>>92577083
Because most magi are shitters, you can't swap magic and some magics have a much harder time with immortality, some clans go out of their way to prevent immortality from spreading (eg. Malivant.) There are clans where immortality is easier like Drac or Ostane but you gotta be born lucky and then still be actually good at your magic.
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>>92577083
Italics posted about it.

1. It takes formal training to master magic and lots of trial-and-error for original spells. Effort.
2. The modern Clan members are not very creative and majority only learn the free basics the Clan gives out.
3. Families keep several techniques for the Clan's magic to themselves and only for their members, limiting who can learn what.
4. Not everyone wants or cares about being immortal because they are not bitch made.
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>>92577095
There is also bathory that should be easy but it is gated (For now) by mircea. Devil is also good for immortality too.
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>>92577095
>but you gotta be born lucky
More like you just need to be good at your magic. Choma the fat fuck achieved immortality with pure effort and he was no one special because he was nobody slave like Drac was in the cult.
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>>92577112
Devil is a bit of an oddball in that their immortality method is well-known, but actually doing it is supposed to be extremely hard, so most people in their clan cope by doing an easier ritual to become a pseudo-lich instead which isn't as good.
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>>92577109
>Bitch made
>Yeah i will just let myself be swept away by time even if i can avoid it
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>>92577116
By 'born lucky' I meant 'lucky to be born into a Clan with magic that makes immortality more available.'
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>>92577119
>Just die horribly and conquer death, bro.
>If you fuck up, you die for real, but no sweat. There is only like 4 people who did this successfully
I mean, why would you not be concerned?
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>>92577008
>>92577083
what do we think are the ways the clans become immortal?
>Chronomancy: Obvious
>Sealing: Sealing your own death...?
>Soul: Soul restoration and immortality
>Blood: Vampirism and blood immortality
>Necromancy: Lichdom
>Elemental: Becoming an elemental or an elemental incarnation
>Hybridization: True Polymorph or just make yourself biologically immortal
>Summoning: Heteromorph (better win the duel) or pulling a necromancy and binding your soul to a homunculus body or something
>Mana: ???
>Materialization: Android Ascension
>Cosmic: Eldritch Merging
>Illusion: ???
>Spatial: ???
>Defensive: ???
>Music: Apparently become a mind virus
>Qi: TRAINING YOUR GOLDEN CORE
>Healing: Biological Immortality
>Alchemy: Alchemical Immortality
>Rune: Writing so hard you become immortal
>Curse: Cursing yourself with immortality
>Copy: Hope you can achieve one of the others
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>>92577141
The archmagus did it multiple times back to back. You can do it i believe in you!
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>all these horror stories from other clans meanwhile all you need to be immortal in Ford is enough money to pay for an android body
Always Winning
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>>92577146
>Alchemy: Alchemical Immortality
Alchemists probably have multiple, like immortality gear, immortality potions, transmuting death, transferring your soul to a homunculus body, that kind of stuff. There's a reason why immortality and alchemy is a meme.
>Defensive
Just parry death bro.
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>>92577153
>Giving the Ford Auctor and Archmagus ability to turn your immortal android body off if you miss your immortality subscription.
Yeah no thanks.
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>>92577146
Illusion: Become an Illusion like the Auctor.
Spatial: Schrodinger Cat
Defensive: Block out Death (It can do this)
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>>92577158
>Just parry death bro.
She is too OP.
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>>92577146
>Mana: Become some sort of sentient clump of mana? Like a crystalian from elden ring or just a crystal i dunno
>Illusion:See Auguste
>Defensive: You can ward concepts so i guess that at the very least you can sit in a room with a barrier that time/aging/death cannot reach There is probably better ways tho
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>>92576819
Sorry but who the fuck is this Elsepth? It sounds like you're talking about PPPP+ with Elsepth the morally ambiguous introduction character, but you're mentioning Magi Case Auctors now too? Please explain.
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>>92577192
Italics used the name in Magi Case for the archmage of the Ager clan. She's evil and wants to pull an Ultimecia/Monika type of time fuck with you.
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>>92577206
Sounds like a homage
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>>92577216
She's nothing at all like the kind, pushover nerd who tech'd herself into godhood and now doesn't know what to do because a bunch of autists bullied her into becoming deities.
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>>92577216
A kind way of saying a fucking ripoff. Italics is a hack and a fraud
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>>92577192
The Magi Case: Fragmented Bloodlines has a character by the name of Elspeth (A name reference to PPPP) who is in Ager Clan that controls Time Magic. However, she is a completely separate OC outside of sharing a few key themes, the most important part about her is that she is an Archmage within the Clan made out of Chronomancers who went through an experiment and saw the beauty of a timestream and what got her stuck in the body of a 14 year old girl.

She now desires to obtain the power and beauty of the timestream for herself, but the problem is that the timestream is already bound to the Ager Auctor (Founder) of the Clan and he has no desire to relinquish it. To fulfill her goal of becoming one with the timestream, Elspeth has taken a personal quest of bringing the Clan under her control and recruiting powerful allies to help her defeat the Auctor. One of the most important people in her plans is Us. Throughout her planning and using Time Magic, she saw different futures and possibilities that all involved Us becoming her most trusted Lieutenant + Apprentice so much that she talks about us to other people in an obsessive manner because we can help her kill the Auctor.

TL:DR She is a character in the Magi Case named Elspeth who is named after PPPP but is entirely different.
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>>92576380
>>92576392
'aight, I'll proofread it back to front, proof read it front to back, and then I'll release it.

>>92577146
Spatial magicos just push death to a place where they aren't. You just have to do it by pushing death away faster than it can come at you.
And if they have any dying bits, they just push those to someone else's not dying bits, and then take a not dying person and spatially link them to do living things for you as a space parasite. This helps retard the death so you can outrun it better.
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TMC and PPPP Elspeths are both stupid bitches.
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>>92577250
True, but PPPP Elsepth is a fun and interesting stupid bitch. I want to use her own powers she bestowed upon me to beat her up and rape her and tame her.
>>92577232
Italics really is awful at making interesting characters
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>>92577227
>bullied her
She woke up first, and convinced Nike to join her in the godhood shit!
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>Italics, Italics, Italics
>Italics this, Italics that, Italics bad.
God stop obsessing over everything he does you spergs.
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ong I just want another thing like outer reincarnation >>92577273
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>>92577273
this but with ford
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>>92577264
There's nothing wrong with being gods, mortals are retarded and need a guiding hand from a higher power. Humanity is doomed otherwise. Not even play acting, that's my legit opinion. That aside, what I meant by being bullied is how most of her pantheon is made up of autistic losers who took advantage of her pushover nature to get into the pods.
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>>92577278
didnt ask autist
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>>92577285
You replied to me homo.
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>>92577278
Oh okay I see what you mean.
I think you're probably right, humanity needs to be guided.
I also think she likes being worshipped a little bit tooooo much. But she's so cute that I can't bring myself to hate her
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>>92577263
For all its faults and despite the fact that it was overall a shit cyoa, entropiss at least proved you didn't need to waste time on backstory to make good waifus. Literal bitches made from the ether with no backstory having more personality than Italics lore dumps is crazy. Italics has to stop thinking about lore and backstory and more about making characters with personalities and depth, interesting enough that they don't get carried by their art.
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I'll always choose you Elspeth.
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>>92577317
hagspeth
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>>92577326
I'm curing her timestasis - unless she doesn't want to be cured.
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>>92577317
She looks nothing like Rin though?
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>>92577308
Holy shit. Will you shut the fuck up. Why the fuck are you obsessed with Italics?
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>>92577330
Close enough.
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>>92577329
it's free immortality desu
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>>92577345
We'll both be immortal anyway since we'll be sitting at the pinnacle of chronomancy.
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>>92577351
still kind of a hassle
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>>92577329
>curing
It's a side effect of exposure to the time stream. You're not going to "cure" her while helping her merge with it.
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I'm not even in clan Ager so it's weird that Elspeth thinks she can 'teach' me anything.
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>>92577333
Because I don't like it when cyoas monopolize the board and overstau their welcome like OR, Entropist, PR, etc. I want other OC around and fresh discussion. Italics squeezing a cyoa for a decade is fucking annoying and the thought that he will still do so for several more years is not something that should be tolerated. At least other cyoas had the dignity to die or fuck off. Magi shitposting has been around for so long any goodwill I had towards it has evaporated.
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>>92577308
It had
>cool powers
>cool concept (in the god scenario)
>cool characters (in the god scenario)
Literally need nothing else.
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>>92577370
She can use chronomancy to learn your clan magic, there is disciplines of mqgic outside the clan magics, and you can be a master-apprentice relationship on anything.
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>>92577368
She was unprepared for that exposure - the merging will be different. We don't see Chronos being a shota now do we, regardless if it's not possible or she doesn't want to that's fine by me.
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>>92577378
You're a newfag, this has happened ever since Conduit, the first multipage CYOA that really 'hit it off'.
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>>92577380
>She can use chronomancy to learn your clan magic
How's that work?
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I'm the end I choose anons builds as my wives.
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>>92577399
My build is a middle aged man and a chainsmoker.
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>>92577394
It doesn't. He made that shit up.
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>>92577378
You actively might have to kill yourself. Because your response is not worth diving into in the slighest to pick a part. You are shitposting and malding over a CYOA and people talking about a CYOA in CYOAG.

Make your own OC, leave, post other CYOAs, talk about other CYOAs in the thread or cope already faggot.
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>>92576849
>Monster Girl Encyclopedia waifus
Weak

>>92576849
>Resident Evil bio-weapons
Dick=Solid
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>>92577378
Where's your build for the OC in this thread? I made one, so hop to it faggot.
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>>92577394
She uses chronomancy to record how different vaeiants of yourself achieved the spells and bring the recordings to you. Or she shows you visions of past used spells for you to learn.
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>>92577378
We used to sequester big CYOAs to splinter generals when they dominated the thread for too long, I don't know why no one remembers that. /ocyoag/, /fcyoag/, /ncyoag/. It's around the time of PR that people got really mad about even the possibility of sending it to a splinter general as well, and then we had 2 months of multiplayerposting before people got pissed enough to make /mcyoag/.
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>>92577415
If you know your Resident Evil lore, you'll realize they're not always mutually exclusive.
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>>92577404
The wedding dress will need more shoulder space, but he'll wear it one way or another.
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>>92577431
Because that 'too long' was certainly longer than a fucking week. Those CYOAs all dominated discussion for over a month before getting exiled. Magi Case is also confirmed dead in the water with its update being pushed to years in the future, meaning a general is a total waste of time.
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>>92577431
All those were multiplayer dominated CYOAs and interactions. Pokemon Personified never got sequestered off nor did JRPG Traitor.
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>>92577399
you are marrying tok retard
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>>92577431
/cyoag/ has been a wasteland for like 2 years now. Only big cyoas reawaken this place, it's stupid to make a separate general for Magi so we can, what, go back to having dead threads? It's stupid to complain about Magi discussion when we spend months with dead threads. Anyone bitching can go and make their own OC.
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>>92577415
>Weak
How so anon?
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>>92577488
Some people have maladapted to the bad state of the place by treating dead threads or even shitstormy threads as their hugbox or 'comfy safe zones'. Like pigs in shit. I think that's where some of the tantruming is coming from, these people want silence or shitposting, they no longer can stand CYOA discussion.
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>>92576440
None because Magi is an anime setting which means it will be destroyed by the scholars due to it being related to Elder Gods.
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>>92577471
He's not anon. He's a namefag.
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>>92577505
I agree. I don't even like Magi much but I'm happy this place is active again. Some anons are having fun, not everything has to be about you. Any cyoa that can get this place going I'll welcome with open arms because otherwise we go back to the shithole that the general has been for the last 2 years now. We can't be picky with OC because we barely get any anymore. We won't see a cyoa of the size and scope of Magi for years, if ever again.
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>Reason has infiltrated Magi society in the form of the Equalists Society
>Reason has completely compromised the Nightingale Clan, it's Auctor and Archmagus are the only uncompromised people there
>Reason gimped magic once it became "reasonable" for the 21 Clans to be locked into their respective magics, nothing stops it from further gimping magics once it becomes "reasonable" to do so
>Reason is mind controlling Drac
>Reason's Anti-Magi and Orlindce are sitting in the background amassing advanced technology like exoskeletons, artificial intelligence networks, and nanomachines for unknown purposes (probably to kill all Magi)
Someone please tell me how we stop it
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>>92577531
develop a technique to seperate the holy relic incarnations from their relic, then bind reason and creation to stabilize everything
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>>92577527
>We won't see a cyoa of the size and scope of Magi for years, if ever again.
Luminary sisters
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>>92577527
honestly I hope more anons keep the conversation going. This place is boring until we get something interesting. Magi Case isn't my favorite cyoa ever, but there's enough content to keep conversation until we get the next thing
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>>92577415
>Monster Girl Encyclopedia waifus
>Weak
low t
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>>92575626
What do we think is the best allocation of each clans talent and resources? What should they be doing that they aren't already?
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>>92577540
>bind reason and creation
Have you learned nothing from Shangdi?
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>>92577578
Ford Clan is doing the best of course. Maybe Techne could be removed and the general living situation of the average Clan member improved. There shouldn't be slums or gangs or crime families at all, they should all be put to the task of advancing the Clan's interests and strengthening it.
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>>92577574
Dude, when I wanna jerk it to monsters I load up Teraurge, not MGE. LowT my dick.
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>>92577613
Holy fucking based, a REAL monster fucker unlike these posers
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>>92577613
>teraurge
HORRENDOUSLY low t and bad taste
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>>92577613
BASED monster fucker KING
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>>92577629
>>92577632
the duality of monster fuckers
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>>92577613
>so far down the spectrum he cant even jerk it to human proportions anymore, it has to be animals and body horror
yea your taste is horrible
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>>92577578
what do you mean, aren't most clans already doing what they do best?
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>>92577649
plenty of them have fuckups for the archmagus
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>>92577661
give some examples, what do you think could be done better?
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>>92577669
nightingale should cull all the reason loving tards asap
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>>92577737
>nightingale should destroy itself
It's too late anon, Reason's talons are in too deep. They'd have to completely start over.
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>>92577751
i'm sure some lobotomies and reeducation would do the job good enough.
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Why havent you taken the monster essence pill for your waifu anon?
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>>92577877
because im not tok
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Next year it's time for sequels.
>Dragonfall: 18+ Version
>Conduit REMASTERED
>Entropist 2: Ultimate Dating Simulator
>CRPG Traitor
>Magi Redux
>Inner Reincarnation
>Monster Hunter 2 Riseborne
>SDA full collection (post Tencent acquisition)
>Dawn of a Demon Lord TRPG
>Mythic Lands x Fulcrum
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>>92577946
kino
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>>92577946
reddit
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>>92577881
tok isn't even a real monster fucker, unless we consider his saggy tit bimbos as monsters
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You guys are not ready for my oc
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>>92577613
BASED, monsters are monsters, and I want to FUCK them!
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>>92578070
is that not what they are?
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>>92577946
I don't care about any of these, I just want quality interesting adventures
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>>92577946
CYOAG IS SAVED
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>>92578090
yes but a different kind
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>tennis match between two chronomancers
>spectators just see two people standing still
>suddenly someone scores
>no one saw how
time magic moment
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Is Elspeth the most forced /cyoag/ waifu since Zynthia?
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>>92578497
No because Elspeth actually fits into the setting and has excellent ties to you and others. Zynthia is always some isekai bullshit.
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>>92578497
Yes because the ones pushing her are rinfags that really don't give a shit beyond her looking vaguely like her. Change her hair colour and she would not be mentioned even once.
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>>92578526
I'm good with any hair color buckaroo - if you scroll up you'll see people talking about her qualities beyond a visual similarity with Rin but sure.
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>>92578512
Zynthia has more personality.
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>>92578546
i'm sure she cares a lot about you, tok
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>>92578546
Poor take, scroll up.
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>>92578539
Sure Italics. All I see is Rin pictures, lore powerfagging and how they're gonna fuck her. Since you're around maybe you can expand on her actual personality. How would she react to watching a Tom & Jerry cartoon with you? I can imagine Zynthia's entire array of emotions, but for Elspeth I can't imagine anything but a generic response.
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>>92578426
I realized the ears are fucked, up i'll try to fix it in the morning
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>>92578632
>italics is a rinfag
Damn he's based
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>>92578632
>Zynthia's entire array of emotions
She have a personality past being Tok's fleshdoll?
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>>92578726
Its tok, of course he knows what his headcanon for zynthia is
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>>92576454
That would never happen, the faster you eat the happyer the granmas are, because it means you were hungry and they can feed you more. You can never eat enough for an italian gandma, no matter how fat you are they will keep saying that you look too thin and that you are not eating well. Italics by comparison does not care about us at all.
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>>92578726
NTA, and I'd like to say she has one due to her multiple appearances, but not really. At best she has a crude embryo of one you need to headcanon to hell and back to make it viable.
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>>92578770
she had a whole cyoa to herself dude
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>>92578794
>why does the character tok obsesses over and put in literally everything have more personality than a character italics wrote for one cyoa
Nta but its a stupid argument to begin with and just tok shitposting as usual
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>>92578632
>Awkward stutter
>Awkward lewdness
That's the whole array.
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>>92578828
but enough about anon
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Rolled 42 (1d48)

>>92576008
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>>92577146
>Sealing : Seal away the concept of death or mortality or senescence or deterioration from yourself, which ever you like best (death might make you unable to directly deal death if the seal is strong enough).
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>>92577531
>every tech they make is getting stolen by Ford
>Drac is not fully mindcontrolled, just subdued. You could probably fix her by yourself or tell Ostane so she btfos the anti magic
>like the first one, the more technology advances, the better magic some clans will be able to perform (Ford, Ostanes, Nightingale?)
>Actually btfo Equalist niggers, convince the auctors that they are subversive and destroy them and their shitty ideology
>Use Magi influence to challenge their control over the non magi.Even though they have a world goverment, the Magi clans have a lot of influence and power, if things come to the worst outcome, just crash the global economy with Ostanes, make the currency useless, overflow the market with certain products or mantain a monopoly over them.
The main problem with Ordlince and the Antimagi isn't that they are too powerful, it's that almost nobody knows about them, and the ones who know don't really give a shit (Ostane)
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How do I submit this on knowyourmeme so that normies can get the magi case reference?
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>>92578983
>42 as ordinal number from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_date_of_admission_to_the_Union#List_of_U.S._states
Washington

Let's go from left to right.
>WA
Fairly meh, even if they are slightly more intelligent they are still dumb animals
>ID
Meh
>MT
If "form" is interpreted strictly, then I can't customize the weapons to be expensive, in which case ND overlaps with the usecase, and is superior since it allows any expensiveness
>ND
A moneymaking opportunity, I will create expensive kinds of tools in scale and sell them
>MN
I don't know much about fishing, but I might find a way to mass fish the 100 USD bills

Alaska bonus

Also you screwed up the states that Idaho is said to border
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>>92577531
>>92579031
whats wrong with the equalists
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>>92579305
You're going to get a "t. equalist" or "t. reason plant" just for asking.
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>>92579349
I just don't get it, how are they negatively affecting stuff (other than the radicals). Wanting to tear down the system isn't inherently serving reason as far as I can tell
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Elspethfaggots really here acting like they like the character because of what italics said when they all had picked her and acted autistic before that was said.
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>shitposter says blatantly false shit to bait (you)s
right on time
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>seethes about the truth
As expected
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>>92579370
Yggdrassil, who does want an equal society states that he doesn't trust the group because the extremists may play into the hands of Reason and eliminate magic entirely.
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>>92579486
right but thats the extremists, a small minority fringe group of the equalists. Why are the equalists themselves bad when its only a tiny part
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>>92579305
Shorts answer?
They want equality
Long answer?
There are many reasons why they are bad for the Magi clans.
First of all, their ideas would cause instability during a time of peril for magic. Even if it's just the moderate faction that push their ideas, many noble families would rebel against them, possibly causing an internal war that would weaken them, cause Magic techniques to be lost, give a opportunity to the Anti magi to strike, etc.
Another reason is that ir could very well cripple the potential of many Magi clans, did you know how the Athenians were able to make so many advances in such a a short time? Slavery is the answer.
Without such systems (the medieval intellectuals had serfs working for them, many periods have similar systems that make the elite not waste their time in trivial work, causing some of them to make great strides in the creation of knowledge) Magi clans has the upper class specialize in a certain type of Magic which pushes them to improve their respective field.
Related to the previous point, causing more people to know about each Magic technique would cripple Magic as there would be more observers, giving more leeway to Reason to cripple the Magic.
More people having access to Magic could also increase the dangers of the knowledge being stolen
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>>92579370
I am pretty sure the Progressives are seen as on reson's side because killing all the auctors would get rid of the most powerful mages and it would give reason the advantage as there would be no one left to stop it. It's arguably just an unforseen consequence rather than an actual plan but it is a possible outcome. Any complaints about the Moderates tho is just stuck up noble RP by upper and branch family anons that don't want privilege taken away from them, just like real nobles so congrats to them for being just as insufferable as the real thing.
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>>92579530
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>92579534
>>92579540
yea this is pretty much how I see it after that. Progressives are obviously bad (though some anons would give them a run for their money in the death to auctors department) the moderates are fine and would probably be better for the magi as a whole. Status by merit would drive competition which would drive progress in magic
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>>92579514
Small loud groups have an impact on how people view the whole group. Look at all the political communities today. Most of them have good intentions for society but the loud ones are heard more often and stir more shit.
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>imagine being an equalist jobber when the battlemageCHADS exist
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>>92579560
As far as I am concerned auctors should not exist, but killing them all as part of a rebellion would not be the right way to do it, it would make it much simpler to kill some of them tho. After all if the entirety of magi society rejects her Drac will have no reason to live and just kill herself, regardless of what other people say with complete control over magic she absolutely can do it, she just does not want to enough, yet.
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>>92579590
Ostane will just follow her, as she also will have no reason to live, Helios will become the undiscussed strongest auctor and will be content ceasing to exist by himself, it's the perfect plan. The more I think about it the more it sounds like I should actually make it happen.
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>>92578899
Looks interesting, I'll make a build later.
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>>92579305
>>92579530
Equality for non Magi would slow the development of clans like Galileo, Ford and Ostanes as human experimentation would be banned.
The long term effects could be terrible as well, if such ideology spreads, it could cause trouble down the line if a war between Magi and non Magi breaks out, many Magi could hesitate to do efficient war crines because "they are just like them" or even join the non magi out of some misplaced pity, social justice.
Another reason is that bloodlines could go to shit if the non Magi are allowed to marry, not only would special bloodlines would just lose their power by diluting their blood, the Magi birthrate could descend even more.
There are more reasons to hate equalists, if you want I can list them when I get home, so i'll end with a personal taste reason.
Magi bloodlines are cool, nobility systems and caste systems are way more interesting than some egalitarian model. I dislike equality and in a world where some groups of people are objectively better than others, it seems irrational to me to treat their lessers with the same respect and dignity.
I also disagree with the inherent value of human life and universal human dignity, so these types of ideologies are against my view of the world.
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>>92579636
>Equality for non Magi would slow the development of clans like Galileo, Ford and Ostanes as human experimentation would be banned.
stopped reading right there. If you didn't actually read the faction why are you commenting?
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>>92579590
I'll remember this if you ever try to make some new branch of magic.
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>>92579570
>Imagine being any of the two when you could be an Old Blood Patrician
Though I have to admit Battlemages are way better than Equalistkeks
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>>92579654
What? Why?
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>>92579683
What violations? Humans rights don't exist.
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>>92579648
?
There are varios cases of Galileo using humans to make pacts with their niggermen
Ford literally has cases where you go to their old facilities and discover their human rights violations
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What's the point of talking about lore that will likely be rewritten? Just wait for Redux. Trust the plan.
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>>92579687
Don't worry about it.
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>>92579708
>still has not read equalists
anon...
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>>92579710
8 more years for redux.
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>>92579715
I am honestly curios because none of that implies I want to make a new branch of magic, and I don't need to. Becoming an auctor is not necessary if all of them are dead.
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>>92579718
>Supports non Magi becoming involved in Magic affairs
What would you think that it would cause in the long term?
Non Magi getting into the goverment and principals of equality spreading
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>>92579730
You become an auctor if you make a new form of magic, retardo.
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>>92579636
>Galileo
>Ford
They have secure locations to continue ignoring the Suggestion of Geneve. It won't affect them too much.
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Anons needs to attach their awful plans to their builds so I know which pawns of reason to kill.
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>>92579654
I already did. I made two actually, but I will not talk about the second one because you guys are too biased to accept that it's a good idea.
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>>92579771
I already did but nobody read it
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>>92579775
Then you have to die, Mistah Awkath.
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>>92579750
Yes and? I already said I don't want to do that, it would be hypocritical of me anyway. Not everyone is a retard.
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>>92579768
Thing is that the Alpha Magus Ordo and their branches know that crimes are being commited, it's just that they turn a blind eye as long as it's not too obvious/shameful, that comes from the oldblood mentality that dominates over the Magi world, if Equalist mentality was spread over the Magi goverment, the crackdowns would be more severe and not just a slap on the wrist
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>>92579793
>creatively and innovation should be punished
You definitely aren't the exception.
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>>92579791
I am not the same guy. I just wanted to point out that I made two magics.
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>>92579636
> I also disagree with the inherent value of human life and universal human dignity, so these types of ideologies are against my view of the world.
Really burying the lede there.
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>>92579793
Nta but how would you stop others from making new magic?
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>>92579771
More builds are on the way.
Plan the trust.
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>>92579775
>>92579817
Anon, while you can innovate with magic and perhaps find ways to combine two magics with fragmented bloodlines, it's impossible to become an Auctor.
You can thank Reason for that, no more magics can be made
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>>92579840
we've entered a whole new realm of headcanon
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>>92579840
Italics said you could? It's just really hard.
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So all equalists really want is stagnation. They can't even pretend to no be pawns of reason for a moment.
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>>92579807
No, creativity and innovation should be spent on actually useful goals. We don't need more categorizations to make magic even more reasonable, we need freedom back, and as long as each magic has someone that embodies it that cannot happen. The more branches you make the easier it is to reason them, you take away the power of the others by fragmenting an already broken system, we need to take down the barrier of reasoning and fuse magic again, and only by killing all the sources we can do that, reset magic and obtain freedom again.
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>>92579779
I wasn't here. Do it again.
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>>92579825
I don't, because by the end there would not be "new magics" it would conceptually be all just magic.
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>>92579840
Reason does not prevent people from making new magic, it just applies laws and logic to everything. Take Ford who created a new magic that complies with the laws of Reason. Hell, you could potentially make Math into magic in a similar fashion.
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>>92579878
You can't stop people from attempting to climb a peak. The moment they succeed. They will inevitably embody whatever specialized use of magic they uses to achieve it.
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>>92579855
While I loathe Equalists, they aren't stagnation, the ones that embody it are the Old Bloods.
You could say that Equalists will cause decadence or self destruction to the Magi, but they are not stagnation by any means
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>>92579918
>they don't want to halt progress, they want regress it
So they're worse than I dared to imagine.
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>>92579869
https://pastebin.com/ajjQZVpU
my buddies asleep still, so its just me for now as I work on my shitposts. Speaking of which, here's the fixed version of >>92578426
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>>92579918
>You could say that Equalists will cause decadence or self destruction to the Magi
funny because a competitive and merit based society would actually do the exact opposite by fostering competition and thereby increasing productivity and perhaps making mages actually try to improve at their magic
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>>92579968
The Old Bloods?
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>>92579968
The Battlemages?
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>>92579968
The Equalists?
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I hate fatefags so much
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>>92580019
I'll bone your sword
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>>92580019
Yes, they are the worst. Also, they are cucks, but they admit to that themselves.
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>>92580022
I'll sword your bone
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For people who are not in Branch families but chooses Auctors outside of your own Clan to mingle with, how did you do it? How did you gain the Auctor's attention? Many of them barely interacted with their clans and are treated like gods so how did you worm your way into their line of sight?
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>>92579904
No, because clans will not exist anymore, there will be only magic, so if you become the best of something it will not preclude that option for someone else to surpass or equal you like it is now. The clan system is retarded and the source of all the magi problems, so taking it away, while traumatic and undoubtedly difficult, is the solutions they need, reason tried to categorize them, they need to break the mold. Like pokemon mystery dungeons explorers of sky, an apparently bad plan is necessary to save the world.
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>>92580062
Complete dumb luck.
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>>92580062
I had cases needing their testimonies.
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>>92580062
most of the auctors do almost nothing to manage their clans and have literally infinite free time, on top of the fact that people treat them like biohazards due to their status. Literally just walking up and starting a conversation with them is enough for them to instantly like you and nobody can do anything about it. The exception to this is auctors who stay couped up at all times like the cosmic one, who just says you have a way to make it to them if you were meant too
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>>92580062
Who could say no to this?
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>>92580065
I don't know how you will stop clans from not existing. Even in our reality without magic we have "clans". Will you make it illegal to group up? Forced diversity?
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>>92578828
That's a fun writing challenge. I shall give Zynthia a fully fledged personality based on the scraps we have now.
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>>92580088
Probably annoying if you don't want to interact with Galileo.
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>>92580065
If some guy does something then other guys are gonna want to know how to d it. You'd have to atomize magi society and encourage such extreme hoarding of knowledge the current shitty birthrates would look like a goal.
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>>92580097
I don't need to stop people to form clans, I just need to make it so they don't enforce it as a rule. The way things are now happened because you have to be part of a clan, you have to fit a definition, it being a possibility is not a problem as long as it's not a hard rule. By thinking like this you play into reason's hand, possibility is good, hard rules are bad, people need to be free.
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My only formal complaint to Magi Cass is that the CYOA is wide. It fishes with a wide net to introduce you to the world and characters, but it does not have a central conflict you would expect from an urban fantasy. You know in the style of Fate or Tsukihime that gives you a reason to care and become personally invested.

Instead. Magi gives you the role of Investigator which treats everything as an episodic adventure and job.
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>>92580088
From the way they are described, auctors a political figures, gods, and celebrities. Even if they take an interest in you, they would be heavily guarded, no? Walking down the street to a coffee shop will be met with paparazzi and fans or certain areas closed off when they are around. The only ways I can think of getting to them is being able to attend large clan events where they show up and sit on a balcony. Getting into said events when you are not part of their clan would likely be a task in itself.

Not saying it's impossible but I'd like to know the details of how others will go about getting to that point. I'm looking for creativity as investigators, which are mostly disliked by the Magi community, to mingle their way up to the top.
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>>92580132
See this.>>92580145
People can learn and form groups, it's when you are forced to join one that the problems start. This way creation also does not win, because the diversity of people will make sure that there is always a balance, it may be more chaotic than now but chaos is good, you need to embrace it or you will never be free.
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>>92580159
>Heavily guarded
Drac got stabbed in the throat by her "guards"
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>>92580159
Auctors are usually a million times more powerful than the combined might of the rest of their clan, they don’t need guards. Not to say they don’t have any, so I agree with you, but they don’t need them.
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>>92580209
Point is there ARE guards. How would (you) get past them? Will you offer to be a guard yourself? Be part of the assassination plot? Win a golden ticket VIP to spend a day with an auctor?
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>>92580242
honestly, i'm not sure. I think it would be safe to say that they would only have guards with them part of the time and that some auctors moreso than others are more likely to sneak out or just leave without them. Really, without italics input into it we can only speculate, I tend to veer on the side of "a lot of the auctors either go out in public regularly, hold events or other gatherings regularly, and/or just go without an entourage to be relatively 'alone' sometimes"
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MAGIC AND AUCTORS AND WHATEVER THE FUCK ELSE DISCUSSION SUCKS

REAL MAGIGODS WEAR MAGI RESEARCHER APPAREL AND ALL OTHER APPAREL WEARERS ARE JOBBERS
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>>92579624
>Powers: Resummoning+, Numbers+, Might+, Magic++, Form++, Self++
>Reduced Powers: Summoning Requirements-, Knowledge & Tech-, Loyalty-
I tend to focus on potential power over coom, though with 150 customized waifus I suppose I can get plenty of both. The summoning itself takes a lot more investment than by default, especially on the mental side since they basically start as empty canvas.

>The World: High Fantasy, The Megadungeon
I love cliche fantasy worlds with dungeons, what else can I say?

>Combination Powers: Cloning, Duplicate Overwriting, Healing Factor, Necromancy, Assisted Reincarnation, Proportional Powers, Transmutation, Be The Beast, Evocation, Super-Strength Summoner, Wizardry
Combo powers are good in CYOAs, though I seem to have gotten quite few even going in blind. With these I'm an immortal wizard on my own right, which is good since starting building the waifu army is somewhat slow process. I think it could have been interesting if combos included some of the drawbacks as well, though I suppose there was already quite enough of them.
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>>92580278
I can go with those last bits. The reason I'm asking is because I'm searching for ideas for how my own build will go about it. An upper family member getting an audience with the most powerful people in the world out of nowhere. It's becoming a bit too Mary Sue/Gary Stu from my writing perspective so I'm trying to make it at least a little believable.
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>>92580365
>cucked by Reason
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>>92580395
For mine I never specified how they met, instead on what happened when they did and afterwards
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>>92580419
That's fair, thanks for the insight.
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>>92580365
Shut up nerd.
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>>92580468
This nigga probably wears battlemage apparel or something to larp as being tough
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>>92580486
Not even. Standard BISA is plenty.
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>>92580395
For mine, I was imagining they got through family and friends in the clan, then did *anything* to stand out a little. Hagia's already clingy and her text says that she basically looks at you decides to keep you, so I didn't too much about it.
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>>92580159
Meirin needs someone to watch movies with her. It is safe to say she does not have guards. Drac also talks about getting visitors.
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>>92580395
The fact is that you are an investigator. Even if that makes you a pariah (just like the auctors lmao), you can tell the clan to fuck off and demand an audience pursuant to your investigation and they will clear the room. They'll be mad about it but as loyal "upper class" Magi, they'll bow down and apologize if their Auctor takes a liking to you.
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>>92580592
Clan do not have to do shit for Investigators.
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>>92579514
>>92579534
Moderates give a platform and a structure for extremists to work within. Moderates are the footsoldiers for extremists. You also forgot that the slippery slope is a very real thing. Making some concessions to give muggles rights means that next year they'll be begging for MORE, and the 'moderates' of next year are now closer to the extremists of yesterday (the extremists of today being even worse, but not relevant.)
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>>92580634
>Making some concessions to give muggles rights
Have none of you actually read equalists
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>>92580643
I did qnd I never mentioned muggles. I don't care about them, all I care about is the death of the authors.
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>>92580643
No, because if they do they can't strawmen them as whatever IRL political faction they don't like. The reality is everyone in this thread would be some degree of equalist, if they aren't outright criminals.
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>>92580643
non-magi becoming involved will inevitably lead to them bitching about rights and softies selling magi society down the river
magi shouldn't involve muggles at all
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>>92580682
>i didnt mention muggles
>quote directly mentions muggles
>>92580716
>didnt read
>>92580694
Yea it be like that apparently
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>>92580739
it literally says that they support non-magi being a part of magic affairs
this is the worst mark against them as it will lead to nothing good
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>>92580643
>>92580694
What do you think giving muggles a say in society leads to? In fact, what do you think fucking DEMOCRACY leads to? Always glorifying, promoting, and catering to the lowest common denominator, dragging everyone else down to their level.
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>>92577613
Half the shit in Teraurge isn't even sapient, you're masturbating to alien animals. You're a zoophile.
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>>92580752
I understand you have severe brainrot, but if you take someone from a civilized country, forcibly induct them into a cult, severely hamper their choices and ability to live their life on threat of death or violence, and tell them they are now property of some old chick just because you both have the ability to do the same thing, you're going to have problems.
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>>92577877
I don't have a wife but I'm open to it only for the physical and magical benefits it provides, but I'm not clan Evoco so it's not something readily available to me.
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Italics please let Lamentations 3 be good. Don't waste the settting. Also include more fantasy elements and technology elements that match each other. Remove dumb options like having a portable radio and include more original items.

Also include more wife options meant for us. All the companions have their own stuff but none feel like they were meant for us.
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>>92578763
I didn't say anything to him when I saw that post, but you're exactly right, whose fucking grandma is upset you cleaned your plate? Grandma has enough food to make you pop, that lasagna is just a warmup.
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>>92580772
You know how you avoid thay? Don't involve them at all so they don't complain about how you run your cult.
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>>92580772
>If you tell a muggle about magi-society they're not going to like it!
Wow genius, thanks for laying out why the Equalists are bad for me.
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>>92579530
>Without such systems (the medieval intellectuals had serfs working for them, many periods have similar systems that make the elite not waste their time in trivial work, causing some of them to make great strides in the creation of knowledge)
Britain actually had its massive cultural awakening and ascent into the greatest power on Earth when serfdom had almost died out entirely and everyone owned their own land and means of production. This only changed when industrialization changed the game entirely and people started getting crammed into factories.
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>>92580772
>Use the magic of said old chick proving you are her apprentuce by bloodright
>Noooooooo you can't do this
Should never be born a mage or use their magic, cuck
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>>92580818
Magi are not wholly divorced from muggle society. There was an example provided of a foundling forcibly recruited because one of her high school classmates reported her to the Clans. Magi do live in muggle society. If they had a secret island nation where the two never intersected, you might have an argument here, but you don't.
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>>92580822
Are you arguing that an evil and inefficient society is actually good if everyone in that society is deliberately deprived of any means of recognizing its faults or how to improve them?
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>>92580806
Bro your created comrade(s)?
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>>92580879
The argument is that they shouldn't be any more involved with each other than they already are. There is zero benefit to magi. What could happen is restructuring to better accommodate non-magi in some cases, but it should be magi lead and managed.
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>>92577531
Grow the pie. Pursue exotic new possibilities - like entirely types of magic - that Reason hasn't ruled in or out yet as "reasonable". Exploit loopholes in the current rules system to render current limitations pointless, or better yet, in such a way that it negates parts of the current paradigm.

It's a classic Order-vs-Chaos setup. Sitting around complaining about how great things used to be only fuels Reason. Got to embrace change and the new.
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>>92580933
The equalist argument is about equality between mages. Every mage should be his own man capable of advancing on his own accomplishments, instead of pyramid scheme that benefits only the oldest and most well connected mages. The fact that they are less opposed to affiliation with muggles is, honestly, just a straight up lie, seeing as the battlemages' openly argue in favor of removing the masquerade and enslaving muggles.
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>>92580806
>Remove dumb options like having a portable radio
He won't. He did it again on Magi Case. He just does not care for any section that is not the companions section. Everything else will be shit.
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>>92580925
Greqt concept and sub-system for the CYOA. But it lacks certain options to make the customs come to life and be a character/yours. A deep mix-match system for backgrounds and their future goal/ot would go well.

But until then, companions are better for characterization/interaction.
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>>92580969
Don't respond to me shitposter.
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Holy shit, you faggots actually think you can argue philosophy and politics in the world established by a certified dujong like italics? Go back to jacking off to your shitty monster waifus and arguing about which OC donut steel self-insert is best. This general is a fucking embarrassment.
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>>92580989
>All criticism is shitposting
Sure, faggot. Go and enjoy your shitty update with terrible items. Since you will never bother to lift your head.
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>>92580618
Sure they do. They are empowered by the rules of the system they created, and thus are at least somewhat bound by those same rules.

The catch is whether they use their social clout to get (you) recalled by (your) bosses. The rules limit (you), too. Or - if (you) really piss them off - whether they just disappear (you) some dark night when no one is watching.
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>>92581013
Lots of idiots think they can argue politics and philosophy in the real world. It's god given right and I'd like to see you try to take it from me.
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>>92581013
Leave them to waste their time arguing with other retards.
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>>92580906
>Evil and inefficient
>Keeps magic and the clans alive
>Helps magic progress and improve
>Keeps Reason out
>All the Reason infiltration into magi society (like Nightingale's problem) arise from magi putting too much stock into what muggles are doing and rejecting magic
Yeah bro society is going to be so improved if we give Reason everything it wants.
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All Italics is good at is making lolibaba for marrying
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>>92581053
Basically. Then again, every other author can do that too.
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Shitposters get angry when you call them out.
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>>92580879
>Magi are not wholly divorced from muggle society
This is one of the problems. Magi should NOT be living in muggle cities or going to muggle schools, getting their heads filled with Reasonable muggle nonsense.
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I enjoyed Beri's OC more than magi case.
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I enjoyed magi case more than beri's OC
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>>92580967
You don't need more equality than you already have. If a Lower Family members distinguishes himself, the Archmage is supposed to promote him to Upper Family, real talents already get rewarded.
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>>92581075
This. Muggles need to be expelled from Magi homelands.
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Where are people getting Reason in Nightingale? All they did was use modern medicine and combine it with healing magic instead if not knowing what the fuck AIDS is or what the kdiney does.
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>>92580395
Some of the auctors are clearly bored, and would probably like a change of pace - like an outside Magi requesting an audience.

Or maybe the two of you have a hobby in common. Be honest - how many of us would recognize the prime minister of Canada at an anime convention? Particularly if he's in a costume that obscures his face?

(There are real world actors who go to cons in full costume, for just that reason.)

Or maybe (you) were working on a case that the auctor had an interest in, and they decided to remember (your) name as someone who might be useful in the future.

(You) could also go throw channels, and have (your) clan request the meeting on (your) behalf.
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>>92581064
To me it seems more like everyone is super defensive about everything. You say something bad about any OC and you get called a shitposter. It really makes them come out as insecure. Except for that one anon's OC which everyone insulted him for, I still feel bad for him. It was his first cyoa.
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>>92581013
>Go back to jacking off to your shitty monster waifus
I never stopped
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>>92581093
Modern medicine = Reason
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>>92581100
>that one anon's OC which everyone insulted him for, I still feel bad for him. It was his first cyoa.
Yeah, poor Entropist-anon, he deserved better
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>>92581093
And in doing so they create the requirement know. They get further from miracle workers and closer to any old surgeon by limiting themselves.
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>>92581100
To be fair, we have legit shitposters who spam the same thing a lot and pretend their stuff is fresh and new criticism. Then we have people who care and have actual complaints that want to see things improved.
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>>92580967
>seeing as the battlemages' openly argue in favor of removing the masquerade and enslaving muggles.
The battlemage position is different because if magi rule then obviously mingling with muggles won't be allowed because they're a lesser underclass, and obviously muggle society would run under magi rules and not Reasonable ones. It's increasing the influence of Creation on the world in general.
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>Arguing about politics of a world you know nothing about
LOL, LMAO EVEN
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>>92581093
The (comparitive) lack of respect for their auctor, the living embodiment of healing magic. Anons see it as Reason corrupting the clan, trying to limit what healing magic can do by insisting it follow the rules of modern medicine.
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>>92581079
I liked Beri's CYOA but there's no big dick lore to talk about like with Royal Revival so it couldn't turn into a thread eater.
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>>92581125
See >>92581032
Most politicians are barely aware of the reality their world. Knowledge has never been a requirement.
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>>92581097
>(There are real world actors who go to cons in full costume, for just that reason.)
There's multiple cases of actors going to look-alike competitions and told off for not 'looking right'.
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>>92581114
More like it helped them get better. No one can compete with the Auctor or learn the way she does healing because the skill gap is too large. The last apprentice of hers killed an archmage using poison she taught him.

So what do shitter mages do? They learn to specialize healing magic into different forms and use mosern medicine as a lauching base and increasinf their overall skill quality as healers, especially since they can tackle a specific problem at the source or use gained knowledge to manipulate a part of the body.
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>>92581154
>The last apprentice of hers killed an archmage using poison she taught him.
Which proves that the magic she teaches > being a regular doctor.
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>>92581138
I think the problem is it had anons that were angry about the perceived cucking they saw in it. Strange, but it did ended up being the thing that kept it from fully devouring the thread.
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>>92581154
>Sorry bro it's not Reasonable to delete your cancer so I can't do it, enjoy your chemo
What great magi.
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>>92581100
>>92581112
He got what he deserved after giving me a bullshit blessing. 100% deserved!
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>>92581133
They may not respect her as a doctor, but may respect her as a mage. Remember their auctor is a 14 year old girl who lacks any form of formal education outside of a cult and doesn't know anything about treating people or what might cause diseases. She is unskilled by a formal manner and no doctor would not respect a person like her IRL. You also forget the fact that ahe keeps all her healing arts to herself including making people immortal and Jesus Christ tier resurrection of the dead.
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>>92581184
At least you didn't cheat on magi case this time... I think, nobody actually read your build to know
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>>92581176
Oh I wasn't talking about THAT OC, I didn't like that one. I was talking about Fairy Queen, the second new one he made.
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>>92581184
Come on, Tok. He was a newfaggot. Could not even handle a little bit of heat. As his senpai, you should have encouraged him to persevere despite the haters.
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>>92581172
But its a huge filter only 1 person can learn.
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>>92581154
They're reaping rewards for themselves while sowing destruction of the whole. They are defining what their magic can and cannot do and how it must be done - there's no other way to interpret this than as reason causing decay.
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>>92581186
The Auctor is almost 600.
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>>92581198
The fact that it can be taught to regular magi means more than one person can learn it, they're just too lazy.
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>>92581193
Fairy Queen was nice. Not my style but still something good. The problem of that one was not even a real problem, since you could be a man. Though I guess I can see why some anons saw it as a "fake option" to appease them.
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>Help guys I'm sick
>Ostane Clan: Here you go, a potion to instantly cure your illness.
>Nightingale Clan: Uhh, take this antibiotic and come back in a month and we'll see what else we can do.
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>>92581154
But then they go a step farther, and start insisting that's the "better" way to do it. Or worse, that it's the "only" way.

Hippocrates never studied medicine or anatomy because she never needed to. Why learn the names of the bones when you can just snap your fingers and presto! They're back in perfect health and alignment.

Her Clan isn't as powerful as their auctor is, so they use modern medicine to amplify their powers - like you mentioned.

Reason is creeping in because some of the Nightingale mages are saying that's the way it HAS to be. That healing magic can't just be laying-on-hands or telling a dead guy to wake up. That the Rules of Reaon governing how the body works must be obeyed!
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>>92581222
Regardless, it was a good CYOA but it doesn't have the lore chops to eat threads, so it was a sort of 1-2 threads and done experience.
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>>92581232
>Uhh, take this antibiotic and come back in a month and we'll see what else we can do.
Real life moment...
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>>92581234
I'm pretty aure Healing Magic states they can't revive someone who died a natural death. Their Auctor is basically cheating.
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>>92581248
That's Reason talk, Anon!
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>>92581239
I think more than lore chops, it needs to have material for arguing. Be it a "vs type" of stuff or just simply how anons see life. Entropist barely had any lore, but anons kept arguing about their imaginary 1v1. It sounds bad, but in reality it is what keeps the cyoa alive. To argue about why X character did nothing wrong or why you would beat anon's wife cheeks in front of him with your powers.
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The fact the Nightingale's archmagus can't make himself look younger already is baffling.
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>>92579901
Huh, you could probably recreate Toaru's espers(without the only 1 power thing) or Idol Theory
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100% sure nobody respect Nightingale because she literally grooms 10 year olds boys she randomly finds.

The Predator.
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>>92581186
What's the better option for healing?

Option 1: Getting a spell from a magic girl who can instantly fix all your problems?

Or

Option 2: Get treatment from a muggle who spent years learning ways to manipulate the body with drugs and surgery, in such a way that it will heal faster than on it's own.

Caution: there may be side effects to the drugs, and further treatment may be necessary for years.
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>>92581262
Well the quintessential thread eater from Beri was Royal Revival, and the arguments there were:
>Which sibling was best
>Which skills were best
>Which waifus/husbandos were best
>How to win the war
>How to beat the quests
>If Teresa was evil or good
>Anons wanting to waifu Teresa and not being able to thanks to marriage obligations
>Anons talking about becoming pretty pretty princesses
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>>92581243
Which is the core issue with the Nightingale clan, they limit themselves to what real doctors do.
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Now that the dust has settled, which builds have the best marriage prospects? Ignoring actually being married obviously. This about who would have their family try to breed or suitors swooning.
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>>92581324
The little girl doesn't want to heal you and will let you die because she doesn't want to be a Messiah.
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>>92581341
THEN I WILL HEAL YOU INSTEAD! What now injuredfaggot?
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>>92581350
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>>92581338
Having all the Mana related skills I imagine and Sterilized eyes.
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God, I hate you retards. Learning real life medicine just makes Healing Magic strongesr because now you know how the body operates and you can manipulate it better.

Now you know cancer is caused by excess growth of cells ans can induce it. You now know cells commit suicide, so you can force fhem to commit suicide in someone. You can figure out how to make bones harder or clone people. It is endless possibilities you would never learn from a retard 14 year old with no education outside of a cult.
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would drac be upset if i cheated on her
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>>92581192
I have NEVER cheated on any CYOA all of my CYOA builds are legal because RAW IS LAW! Like I said 1 billion times already. If I cheated on the walk blessing I would have a fake walk blessing for maximum 1 thread before the author found out about it and exposed me. So if I cheated I would get a fake blessing for 1 thread or If I don't cheat and just play the CYOA like everyone elese I would get a custom made power made by the author himself which was thematically related to my build. Now of the 2 options available which one do you think I would want? Yeah, it's a no brainer but I got shitposted at by a troll and then punished because anons thought it would be funny to rob me of my walk blessing by accusing me of samefagging myself a fake walk blessing and the author was too retarded to understand that. Retards get what they deserve and in the end I got a perfectly fine walk blessing from an AI and got to roleplay out my build with it.

>>92581196
I would have done that, if he didn't give me a troll blessing and broke his own word on the spirit of the description of Walk Blessed. If he fucks with me, then I whenever shitposters are fucking with him I'm gonna laugh and point at him.
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>>92581377
Discipline
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>>92581398
Echoes of the Universe
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>>92581338

>>92576797
>>92579946
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>>92581407
More builds than MTG
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>reason cucks coping this hard
embarrassing
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>>92581407
>i didn't cheat
>cheats
lmao
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>>92581323
And yet you can't marry her unless you're a grandpa, curious.
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>>92581411
>evocucks
nah
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>>92581437
until we see you make shitty memes that are better Evoking retains his crown
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>>92581371
The mana skills (aside from mana resistance) are all framed as learned skills though, not genetics.
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>>92581341
The point is, the Nightingale clan is choosing to chase an inferior Reason-limited possibility, rather than try to reach the same heights as their auctor.

At one point, they were. That's part of what got them interested in modern medicine. The problem is they now see it as a better path than the one their auctor is on.

The auctor definitely got her powers the "easy" way . . . but she's proof that such powers ARE possible. But rather than reach for such powers for themselves, her clan is accepting the more limited (although still impressive) powers that Reason is willing to tolerate.

Modern medicine - which was supposed to be a ladder to reach the same heights as the auctor - has become a weight around the clan's ankle, instead.
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>>92581372
>so you can force fhem to commit suicide in someone
Um, that's not Reasonable, that's not how medicine works. You need to take these pills and get nuked with radiation, I should know, I'm a doctor. Stupid Auctor.
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>>92581450
Unfortunately, that has no impact on his marriage prospects.
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>>92581435
Based as fuck. Grooming young boys just to cuck them with her older husband.
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>>92581477
you asked, not my fault you didn't like the result. Plus he's posted it enough times he's the only build I remember aside from agerlicker
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>study medicine for years to maybe being able to cure some diseases
>A random lionheart walks in and parries the disease of your entire fucking clinic away
the absolute state of nightingale
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>>92581521
If the only thing he has going is edits then he has nothing. Only exception is if he's showing them to possible wives.
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>>92581597
I dont read builds so I dont know
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>>92581618
based service to self chad
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I have decided to go on a diet. I'll start off by starving 3 days. No food for me, only cyoas, to nourish my mind while the body starves.
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Do we even have a list of magi builds? Obviously its not multiplayer but it would be nice to have a list to read through for inspiration
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The whole Reason and Creation backstory is an active detriment. It's a backstory element that has no actual impact on the player, but people are basing their stances solely and entirely on the fear of Reason psy-ops.
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>>92581656
>its not multiplayer
It is. I took the option.
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>>92581669
I don't.
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>>92581669
Just ignore it then. You're not forced to entertain thread headcanons.
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>>92581669
I would belive this if the lore of the pdf and many of the auctors profiles didn't portray Reason as a threat. Both Creation and Reason are needed but they are at constant war with each other, Reason being the reason magic has become limited which in turn, is a threat to Magi society.

It does not affect those that want to live normal lives as investigators but for those builds looking to become auctors, create new magic or change magic society it is a factor to consider and discuss.
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>People whining about nightingale cucking themselves out of their magic
>When the archmagus is fixing their nonsense
The clan will be fine
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>>92581674
Who are you gonna choose to join your team?
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>>92581656
Someone posted one a few days ago but it obviously didn't include the ones made since.
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>>92581720
The are a threat in the same way global warming is a threat to us IRL. No one actually cares and you will be long dead by the time it is actually the end.
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>55 years old and married to Nightingale.

Sorry, Albucasis don't you just love my wife's smile?
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>>92581917
Cucking is wrong anon...
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>>92578899
I love summoning magic
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>>92581669
Except the Anti-Mages are the one enemy in the CYOA most likely to just show up and try to kill you out of nowhere for no reason.
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>>92581984
>For Reason*
Fixed that for you
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>>92581984
Me using music to beam homosexual thoughts into the anti-mages head so he cant focus on counterspelling me
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>>92582026
>Need to use reasoning to hamper the magi
>Can't reason
It's over for them.
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>>92582026
I like to sic alchemically enhanced pitbulls on them. There's no Reason there wouldn't be pitbulls littering any American neighborhood and there's no Reason they wouldn't just randomly attack some glowies either, that's natural pitbull behavior. There's also no Reason they wouldn't be roided to fuck and have solid steel teeth, because it can be Reasonably assumed a hoodrat would do this to his pitbulls.
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>>92582048
Real Worm shit
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>>92582048
>solid steel teeth
Make it solid gold, then its believable
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>>92582072
Gold is a soft metal. No, Demetritus isn't that dumb, his IQ is 82. His pitty would have gold PLATED steel teeth.
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>>92582026
I have to wonder how this works against lovecrafts and monsters. Can anti-mages just not believe in them and thereby weaken them? Wouldn't most monsters, and especially kin, still be capable of murdering them?
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>>92576008
MN-SD-WY-ID-OR
Hawaii to change ID to CT

Time stop money fishing.
Alternate forms for fun.
Peace horn to ward off pirates and the IRS
Free Yacht that is my new fishing boat home.
Longevity for just moving 5 miles each day. Particularly strong with time stop fishing.

Yep, American dream here. Fish all day for fat stacks and a long life.
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>>92582112
Enigmas exist outside of creation, antimages just won't go schizo from seeing them,
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>>92582152
Anti-Magi are given Sterilized Eyes by default so they can kill enigmatic creatures. Killing the Enigmas themselves would be difficult as Italics says their true bodies lie in some extra dimensional space, but anything below the 12 Enigma gods is fair game.
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>Creation creates monsters specifically to murder magi in revenge for the Aryans betraying it
>A not insignificant portion of them decides they'd rather be slaves and lovers to magi instead
>One of your most powerful monsters manages to hijack a magi clan, he could now destroy them from the inside
>He just spends his time partying, teaches humans how to better enslave monsters, convinces a bunch of your other most powerful monsters to join him in partying instead of eradicating humans, comes up with a plan to block more powerful monsters from coming into reality so only ones easily enslaved by magi exist, and THEN turns himself into a loli so she can attract a human mate
Creation really got btfo here, huh?
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>>92581724
Only if someone doesn't assassinate him.
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>>92581724
>>92582229
Doesn't one of the Nightingale clan members literally give you a mission to murder an archmagus? Who could she be talking about but her own? Reason is literally telling the Nightingale to kill their archmagus because he isn't compromised
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>>92582219
Creation is the metaphysical representation of a cuck
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>>92581894
I dunno. The Ayrans making contact with Creation was only 550+ years ago. Yggdrassil is 150+ and created Universal because of the impact Reason was actively having on Magi by limiting them to 1 magic type. There are multiple ways to achieve a long lasting life with the magic used in this world, not many achieve it but as special snowflake MCs we are playing as, we can have the power to do so.

Reason and Creation could very well make another impact on this world within these lifetimes. Who knows if Reason's influence causes anymore effects on magic.
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>>92582219
Reason is laughing.
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>>92582286
Actually the Aryans made contact with Creation more than 550 years ago. The lore pdf states that Creation showed itself to the Aryans back when they were a tribe. Later on, it states the Aryans murdered Aryans who said that Creation was sus. Those who survived the murder and exile then founded the anti-Mages before also disappearing with the rest of the Aryans.

Mages and Anti-Mages have the same founders.
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>>92582444
Brothers shouldn't fight against their kin...
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>>92582444
>>92582489
One brother wants reality to completely calcify to where nothing is ever happening or changing, and the other had the good sense to realize Creation WAS a problem and backstab it to instead fuck over both it and Reason and become gods in the middle. One is obviously better.
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>>92582219
Are lolis the ultimate life form?
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>>92582585
ye
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>>92581464
And Sterilized eyes doesn't say how you got them, you could have just train to get them.
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>>92582655
You CAN 'train' to get Sterilized Eyes, but some people are also born with them. It's just that the 'training' is incredibly dangerous and risky, so it's much safer to just buy them instead of trying to figure out just how much shoggoth pussy you can look at and for how long before you get the eyes. Only Sterilized Eyes and Mana Resistance are specified as genetics-based in the skill section (technically Charming Appearance probably is too) and of all those only Mana Resistance is genetics ONLY, meaning it's the most valuable purchase, but Sterilized Eyes is easily the second most valuable thanks to what I said.
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>>92582545
>delusions of beating god
Actual retardation
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>>92582675
Coward.
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>>92582674
That's the thing i meant to point out, the "sterilized eyes" skill option in the cyoa isn't specific about how your build got them, could be innate, could be by safe exposure or by becoming in-human, it just say you that you got them. So having that skill doesn't necessary mean that you are a more valuable mate (assuming that innate eyes are inheritable and not a random occurence).
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why no new thread?
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go hog wild
>>92582907
>>92582907
>>92582907
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Every auctor but mine should die.
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Only my auctor should die, so that I can eat him and gain his power.
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>>92582980
Shut up Elspeth.
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>>92581732
Tristan Holway Faber
Etrius Sanguine Bathory
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