Thread 413: "Bore Me" EditionBushi-Navi EN: https://www.en.bushi-navi.com/Deck Log:https://decklog.bushiroad.com/ (JP)https://decklog-en.bushiroad.com/ (EN)Beginner guide, decklists and other info: https://pastebin.com/QxKQRhrQUp to date fanmade PC online games, 3DS/Switch emulation and Mobile games: https://pastebin.com/7Fj8VqA2Cardfight and Buddyfight matchmaking server: https://discord.gg/6xVFD4rWeiss/Schwarz Resources: https://pastebin.com/sk2iSjW1Bushiroad Spring Fest 2024 Info: https://en.bushiroad.com/events/bsf2024/DivineZ S1 Episode 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdjPu8SOcx0Release Schedule (Vanguard):- DZ-BT01 Fated Clash: 5/3- D-TB04 Touken Ranbu ONLINE 2023: 5/24 (L E L)- DZ-BT02 Illusionless Strife: 6/28- DZ-SS01 Festival Booster 2024: 7/12- DZ-PS01~03 Premium Deckset Jewel Knight / Revenger / Musketeer: 7/12- DZ-BT03 Dimensional Transcendence: 8/30Release Schedule (Weiss):- Bang Dream! MyGO!!!!! TD+ and Girls Band Party! Countdown Collection: 5/17- Bocchi the Rock!: 6/14- RWBY Premium Booster: 6/28- Shakugan no Shana Premium Booster: 7/19- Love Live! School idol festival Series 10th Anniversary Premium Booster: 8/2- Hololive Weiss Schwarz Ambassadors Premium Set: 8/2- Ayakashi Triangle: 8/16- Hololive Summer Collection: 8/30- Oshi no Ko: 9/20- Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusaders and Stone Ocean Premium Booster: 10/4- Dengeki Bunko 30th Anniversary, and Love Live! School idol festival 2 Miracle Live!: TBDRelease Schedule (Shadowverse EVOLVE)- Omens Eternal: 6/21- Gloryfinder Bundle #1 “Guide to Glory” (4 Player Multiplayer Decks): 7/19- Paragons of the Colosseum: 8/16Release Schedule (Rebirth for You JP):- Pon no Michi: 6/21- Gridman Universe: 7/12- Hasu no Sora HS Idol Club: 8/2- Bang Bravern: 8/30- IM@S Shiny Colors and Blue Archive The Animation: TBDLast Thread: >>92464882
First for cute shota Ryuzu!
What legacy characters will be introduced in S2? Will Zakusa finally stop being a nothing burger?
>>92560565Hopefully none. This show is better the more it stays away from Dress.
>1. Pokemon - 133.7 billion yen - 37% up>2. YGO - 47.1 billion yen - 3% up>3. Duel Masters - 28.9 billion yen - 3% down>4. One Piece - 26.5 billion yen - 213% up>5. Weiss Schwarz - 13.9 billion yen - 47% up>6. MTG - 5.3 billion yen - 6% down>7. Battle Spirits - 3.8 billion yen - 9% down>8. Shadowverse Evolve - 3.7 billion yen - 50% down>9. Union Arena - 3.2 billion yen - 543% up>10. YGO Rush Duel - 3.1 billion yen - 14% up>11. Vanguard - 2.9 billion yen - 52% up>12. Digimon - 1.2 billion yen - 15% down>13. Wixoss - 1 billion yen - 4% up>14. Build Divide - 900 million yen - 51% up>15. Re-Birth for You - 870 million yen - 26% down>vanguard isn't even a top 10 game anymore>getting beat by fucking rush duelThis is embarrassing. At this rate they're gonna cancel the anime. What's the point of making one and investing so much money if the game is not even making that much?
>>92561226>>11. Vanguard - 2.9 billion yen - 52% up>52% up Come on, that's at least good. >14. Build Divide - 900 million yen - 51% upOh cool, it still exists
>>92561226I thought Weiss won was just a meme...
>>92561394Yeah the game isn't going to die anytime soon but are sales good enough to justify making an anime? Bushi can probably cancel the anime and they would be making a profit. Maybe they're making money off the anime merch or something but using the anime as an ad to boost card sales doesn't seem to be working that well. These sales are lower than sales in the V era.
>>92561226That's just MTG in Japan right? No way it's that low globally
>>92561226Union's numbers are "up" but the 2022 sales were based only on preorders, nothing actually released in 2022. So the 543% growth is misleading.The dates used do not include the most recent Hololive release in Rebirth (Feb 2023), would guess most of the 26% loss is from not having new Hololive in the last year.
>>92561569These sales are from April 2023-March 2024. Forgot to include that.
Ikeda comments on Vanguard. Rough translation.No.11 VanguardAnnual sales 2.9 billion yen, 152% compared to last year. The turnaround has been a complete success. 152% compared to last year is an impressive figure. By the way, you may think that Vanguard has decreased the number of stores that carry its products.It is true that Vanguard has a "changeover" period, and some stores decide to stop selling Vanguard and start selling other new TCGs. While the number of stores that carry Vanguard seems to have been decreasing, conversely, stores that have been carrying Vanguard for a long time have been "consolidating their customers". In Akihabara's Card Kingdom, the sales of Vanguard are higher than those of Yu-Gi-Oh! This means that the stores that have stopped carrying Vanguard may start carrying Vanguard again at the next "changeover" period.
>>92560147*Shuffles your deck and ruins your stack* Nothing personnel kid>>92561566It is in Japan only (5.3 Billion Yen), but remember that MtG-only stores do exist over there (ie. Hareruya)
>>92561226weissGODS... I think they should start collating with even more gachas.
>>92561226Vanguard...lost...
>Makes over 4x the money of vanguard>Don't even have to pay artists since it's all screenshots, meaning the profits are even higher than thatWeissGODS...I KNEEL!!!
>>92562616>Don't even have to pay artists since it's all screenshots, meaning the profits are even higher than thatThey still have to pay licensing fees for whatever IPs they borrow.
>>92561226Well I guess we can see now why Bushi is making this baseball game and helping to produce the hololive game. Vanguard isn't pulling its weight and Evolve seems to be on the decline.
>>92561612DEAD GAMEEAD
>>92558395I started laughing when he was part of the cliffhanger. At this point, nothing will stop him from getting away with it. Even if they switch casts again after DivineZ wraps up, Masanori will somehow still be there
So the trial deck aces are all pretty shit. But the card pool in the first set is taken up by support for them, including a bunch of RR slots?
>>92566636Fated Clash has 1 RR Grade 3s for each of the Trial Decks (so 6 RRs total) and basically replaced most of the vanillas with units that have skills.
>>92568104Weiss did a Baccano! set?
>>92571133No, but that's in the Dengeki Bunko set which features works published under the label with Baccano! only getting one card out of it.Not exactly related but there is a set that features another light novel label that is out in English a while ago: https://en.ws-tcg.com/products/bp-fujimi-fantasia-bunko/
>>92560565I wonder what happened to Yuyu though
DivineZ final average ratings put it above Legion Mate and overDress and right next to Cont. HS arc/Shinemon. It's a little below VG 2018. And still well below all of the G arcs and Link Joker. But it's a good rebound from overDress which was abysmally low.
>>92573690Nice that the 10 people voting liked it.
I have my decks in the mail, but I do feel a little sorry for the people that didn't have any interest in the decks. Guess it'll be fun to see how crazy this can get.
>>92561226>What's the point of>Weiss SchwarzThe future is there. Really, how they do it?
Honestly, Baro is not that bad after the new support. I actually won against some pretty strong decks with it. It's just way too inconsistent though.
>>92573986JPchads can't stop winning. it's about 240 yen is about $1.5.
>>92573986Just buy a trial deck at that point jesus.
>>92575022hehe
>Make all the trial decks dogshit but still need them for the energy crest thingyWhat the hell is wrong with this company?
>>92575921This is how they’ve always been. They only pretend to care when people make noise otherwise they try to get away with whatever they can.
>>92574611Because those decks are so trash they're already going on discount due to being unsold
AUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC), if you have played an order card during this turn, you may SC2.
>>92576185I'm sure they made a decent profit off the Nao sleeve promo.
>all of Hikari's accessories are selling like hotcakesYeah, we haven't seen the last of her. Maybe they'll give some of future Hikari's characterization to the current one.
We like Hikari here?
>>92577412She's alright. Mirei is better. They did more with her in the same amount of episodes. Future Hikari is effectively a different character who shows up for 2 episodes and has a basic arc.
>>92576185the listed price, by bushi, for the decks in japan is 700 yen($4.5)
>>92575051I rather wait until reprint to hell and hand over like gift markers.
>>92561226>>92573986Vanguard deserve to be at -15 for the shit they put out there
>>92576185No, it's because for the English release they upped the price massively, for context, in the UK those decks are about £17, more than 4 times the Japanese price.
The worst part of this is that I don't think a deck of vanillas is so bad as a concept to onramp completely brand new players, but everything about the way the product has been handled is just embarrassing.
>>92580747Unless its a deck centered around vanillas then its fucking retarded to have the whole trial deck be a bunch of vanillas and then force you to get the real versions in set 1.
>>92580747I completely agree. When you introduce someone to the game you don't use abilities most of the time so it's actually a nice concept. Anyone that says otherwise has cardgame brainrot. It should.be cheap like the japanese ones, though.
>>92575921>>92575981Bushi only listens when the JP market complains and the Japanese don't complain too often so they don't need to worry that much. I feel like if they'd sold the decks at the US price in Japan people would've been pissed and maybe Bushi would've changed something. But they barely care about the EN side so we are stuck with this shit.
Vanguard is an easy enough game to understand with skills. For years they made starter decks with effects and even little kids played with those decks once upon a time. There’s no need to make a vanilla deck to appeal to beginners in the first place. Just make a good product.
>>92561394Yeah I enjoyed the anime. Hope they make another season again someday. I would play it if it came into English.
>>92575921It's honestly genius from a product design standpoint.They sold basically a pile of nothing but EVERYONE has to buy it because of a single mandatory card. To not have it is to make your deck worse.They then resold that pile of nothing but added their effects so people who actually give a shit have to buy a second time.They then, when importing overseas, randomly made the pile of nothing even MORE expensive by shoving shitty sleeves in them, and it will still sell because EVERYONE has to buy it.It's completely villainous and they have us by the balls and know it. It's remarkable in its own way
>>92561226Still making more moneyI think it’s fine
>>92583991I mean the japanese version is literally less than $5 and comes with with the promos and energy generators. Shops are literally selling just the effect draws promo from those for more than the deck itself, so depending on what you get it can be a pretty good value purchase. I wouldn't call that really "villainous"
The worst part is that the trial deck bosses are eugene/baro levels of undersupported mediocre archetypes.
>>92585863In a way, that gives people an excuse to just jam the decks full of generic stuff, which not a lot of decks can do because they need their support to even work. The start deck bosses feel so self-sustaining, and I've been having a really good time thinking of ideas. My favorite so far has been an order based Oselargest build that has a really good early game rush and mid to late game draw power thanks to Oriens. The big thing though is I just sat down and went "THis is like $300"
>>92585863>eugene/baro levelsHold on now, you don't know what you're saying. They're genuinely better than Eugene and Baro just off of the fact they're workable with whatever and their support actually does something all the decks want (an additional attack or be big beaters and draw, recycling persona rides) while Eugene and Baro have had multiple sets of support since the start of Overdress and Bushi still has no idea on how to make them playable.On a base level, searching for a persona ride and having an additional attack will always be better than whatever Eugene and Baro can do.
well shit, no v series products announced, BCS probably wont have V series events... is it over V bros?
AUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC) or put on (GC), COST[EB3] this unit gets PWR +5000 / SLD +10000 until end of turn.
>>92587033shit
>>92586735>is it over V bros?yes, yes it is
>>92587033Someday there is gonna be a deck that is gonna use her, but that won't happen for a long time.
>>92587172not even a final set to round out the missing cards (blaster joker, zenith, alfred exiv etc...)
>>92585863>Eugene/Baro levels of undersupported mediocre archetypesTheyre nowhere in the same ball park as Eugene and Baro. The only one id throw shade at is Triumph but the rest work fantastic with their nations generic support so they barely need any to begin with.The overpriving is bullshit though but still theyre way better than those two
>>92560565I genuinely don't think I've ever seen another franchise where the 12 episode seasons feel so disconnected from one another. Characters get randomly introduced and replaced at the drop of a hat, Megmi's brother gets hyped up only to get 4 seconds of screen time. Urara goes full psycho? Back to normal in 2 episodes. And what ever happened with Mirei's fiance? They made such a big deal about it considering Danji tried to kill the guy to never talk about the subject again. it's really hard to get invested without how many plot points just end up ignore minutes after they're dropped.
>>92575921Game might unironcally keel over at this rate, it's already on it's last legs in the west but then they pull shit like this.
>>92588856People complained. Kidani knee jerked and the staff decided to rewrite oD s2. They scrapped whatever plans they had for that season and whatever followed it and we got WillDress.
>>92589796>it's already on it's last legsSource: trust me bro
Seems lyrical will be excluded from the dual nation cards again. Bushiroad are a bunch of cowards.
>>92590608We can't have a potato riding on some idol
>He doesn't use an aesthetic starter with his decks
Re+ is guaranteed one per box
AUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC), if your vanguard's grade is less or equal than your opponent's vanguard, discard up to one card from the top of your deck, and this unit gets PWR +2000 until end of turn.AUTO [(RC)/Drop]: When your other card is discarded from hand during your turn, COST[EB3, and remove this card] choose one of your discarded cards, and add that card to your hand.
AUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC), if your vanguard's grade is less or equal than your opponent's vanguard, this unit gets PWR +2000 until end of turn, then, if you have played an order card during this turn, SC1 or EC1.AUTO [(RC)/Drop]: When your other card is discarded from hand during your turn, COST[EB3, and remove this card] choose one of your discarded cards, and add that card to your hand.
AUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC) from hand outside of battle phase, look at the number of cards from the top of your deck equal to the number of set order cards in your order zone +1, choose a card from among them and put it into your soul. Then, COST[CB1] and perform one of the following.- Choose a Grade 2 or greater unit card in your soul and put it into your hand.- Choose a set order card in your soul and put it into your hand.
Next week will finally cap off Festival Booster 2024 with the new Overtriggers>Still no art preview for themBruh
>>92591062Will they be cray elementals or 1 or each nation? Hopefully not just more fucking dragons.
>>92591484It's Cray Elemental since there are only two Overtriggers in this set just like last year's Festival Booster, we will know what the two Orders do this Thursday.
>>92590938>cute dragonWish LM was more like that because anime girls are cringe
>>92592047>Lyrical Monasterio now has a Tear Dragon in addition to the Forest Dragon in D-LBT04Granted that those two types would make sense in LM, it'd be over if they manage to make a cute Dragon out of other Dragon species.
>>92590938Huff... Huff... Lay an egg for me, right now...!
>>92590767>he doesn't try to match his triggers' color palettes or aesthetic with his main boss
>>92590929This card could have helped my dragontree deck a lot. Shame about the grade restriction.
>>92593682>Watch a brandt gate deck profile>They use the fucking orfist triggers for Heroes
>>92590979Forgot that you have to shuffle your deck if you check two or more cards from the top of your deck.>>92594861The problem for Brandt Gate is that the generic triggers are either Cardinals (D-BT01), Blitz (DZ Start Deck), Cybers (Festival Booster 2023), and Aurora Battle Princess (original Start Deck) so what could he really use besides maybe the Blitz triggers?
>>92590979DS doesn't even have set orders atm, so for now it's a SC1. Cool art though.
>>92595101Well, there is the new boost set order.
AUTO: When this unit attacks, discard the top card of your deck, if the discarded card is a trigger unit, choose a blitz order or set order in your drop and add it to your hand. If you did not add a card, this unit gets PWR +5000 until end of that battle.>>92595345The issue is that do you really want to dedicate your free slots for the set order?
>Go to a locals>Playing MLB (Max rarity because I like paladins)> Yuh shur do liek paladins huh>I have played them since bt01 og set man love royals>anon we dont think you should play with us if you play paladinsWhat is with these niggers?
>>92597015They know they're not cool enough for you.
>>92597247such bullshit it was also the only locals in my area too. Like what the hell man.... I could understand if I was being an ass or something but I only said I had played royal paladins since set 1 then basically got outed from the group based on that. Its discrimination
>>92597015>Max raritycringe
Hypothetical situation: if bushi released an overtrigger with no additional effect when triggered but that let you add an Olbaria to the deck in addition to it, do you guys think most people would run it? Would you run it?
>>92598042i've been out of the game and tracking deck building philosophy or w/e but i think any deck that isn't from brandt, DS, or lyrical would definitely at least consider it. the other OT's effects are nice and handy but frequently the 100m+draw and the 50k shield is the main dish, and getting a second helping of that is too tasty to pass up on for many.
>>92597855why exactly?
Weiss won. HAHAHAHA!
>>92597015lmao faggot
>>92599288True men play in the lowest rarity possible OR try to have as many different types of rarities as possible in a single deck. Max rarity is gay.
press S to spit on vanguard's grave
I finally downloaded Vangpro and this thing is nowhere near as automated as I hoped it would be
>>92605691gonna cry?
>>92605876That AND shit my pants.
>>92605691I downloaded it but as soon as I saw they wanted my email so I could play I immediately removed it feom my pc. Is it any good? How does it compare to CFA in terms of quality?
CONT (RC/GC): If your vanguard's grade is lower than your opponent's vanguard, and you have four or more cards in your damage zone, this unit gets PWR +5000 / SLD +5000. (Active in opponent's turn too.)
See you in three months
>>92607167Are grade 2 decks finally gonna become a thing with all these "if your grade is less" cards? The only kind of good grade 2s I can think of are Alestiel and Virgila
>>92607669If such a deck appears and starts threatening top meta decks, its key pieces will get hit, errata'd, and/or made irrelevant with a base-level rules change. Bushi would never let another deck like the Seven Seas rush deck exist for long.
>>92590979I guess the DS rideline from Set 3 might be set order focused? Or at least they might print another
CONT: Sentinel (You may only have up to four cards with "[CONT]:Sentinel" in a deck.)CONT: You may only have one "Elementaria Sanctitude" in a deck.Play this with COST [discard a card from hand] if your have no cards in your Crest Zone other than "Energy Generator"!If your opponent's has any cards other than "Energy Generator" in their Crest Zone, this ability can be played without paying the cost.Choose one of your units, and it cannot be hit until end of that battle. Remove this card.
Regalis PiecePerform one of the following:- Draw two cards.- Put this card into your soul, and CC1.
>>92611150>still works against Stride decks>loses the ability to work against regular G4s>gains the ability to fight against crossover decksReally weird sidegrade. I think I'd still rather play the original because I don't face many crossover decks
*Suddenly realizes that there will be no LM Dual Nation card in this set*OOF
Next week will feature the Daiyusha Ride Line plus its supports for a total of eight cards.
One good thing about Weiss is that it's hard to learn how to play. Therefore, the game itself filters smooth brain retards. That's why the weiss community will never be shit. It has the perfect gatekeeping tool, the game itseld.
>>92611421It was kind of obvious if you looked at the set number of the cards.
Can you choose not to heal when you get a heal trigger?
>>92611612Trigger effects are mandatory as long as conditions are met
>>92611421They still like to not include LM in things and they still get their own boosters to themselves.
LM does not need 10 billion ridelines where most are completely garbage.
>>92611421>patterned so that each nation connects to the other and loops around againcute
>>92611761>Stop having options!!!Least netdecking Vanguard player
>>92611835Kek
>>92611816It would have been cute if the loop actually worked with the map of the vanguard world. Fucking Keter ruubed it.
>>92611835>Options when most of them are undersupported and useless
>Tfw have a deck for every nation except lyricalI am having choice paralysis from all these ridelines. Don't know what to go for.
>>92611761They're all fun and worth trying and building for, have a lot of variety, and with some support can go from niche to meta (look at my girl Wilista nobody believed in her)
>>92612544go for the one that seems cutest to you, there's only a handful of them that are unplayably bad. My favourite ones are Michu due to her set order shenanigans and tag team, Charmout since it reaches insane numbers easily, Siana since she's the "defensive" vanguard i've always wanted and dabs on rushing, Wilista since she was vindicated and her card advantage's insane, Loronerol due to nostalgia back when i dominated with her, even if her new support is a bit akward, and other ones i forget.Lyrical is such a good nation it's insane
It's been 2 weeks and CFA still doesn't allow you to include 16 copies of the megacolony battler promo...
>>92559910Is the new stride deck rule also applied on the english format?
>>92612572>WilistaCan you really use her as an example when she was basically rebuilt from the ground up?>>92612973If you are referring to the rule about the ride deck composition then I don't think it got updated yet in English because the specific rules for the Stride Decksets still omitted the Ride Line Grade 2s.
>>92613096Exactly, wilista is possibly the worst example as they don't even use the old grade 3 anymore. Something like Alestiel would be better.
>Rez vs Amorta, Amorta shows Rezael his future memories of death to try and dissuade him>He breaks her mechanical wings and puts her in a coma since gear wings kept her alive>has a good cry while Liael is just glad she got to say goodbye this time>Fated Ones plan how to approach Blangdmire>Welstra and Krysrain math out *why* Rezael got shredded and vored by Blangdmire's black hole; it isn't a true blackhole, but something something Schwarzchild radius means the only way to approach it is my dropping in from above>Rezael does that, gets ambushed by Blangdmire>Liael=Amorta somehow momentarily manifests to block the hit ala G guardian>Blangdmire was straight up born from Rezael's sorrow and grief at Liael's death 2000 years ago that accumulated in a DS swamp touching some Fated One power when Vartex died>wants to devour Rezael because maybe it'll feel whole>After Liael=Amorta blocks the ambush attack, Rez manages to talk it down and tardwrangle it by reaching out and offering to show him the world>celebration>>>>In a Lyrical Monasterio tower, Krysrain watches in horror as the comatose Amorta disappears from existence, does NOT take it well>lore ends on Amorta's death and how she was still Keter's smiling angel and Flower of the SanctuaryWell. That was depressing.Also.>Rez gets Blangdmire pardoned for his crimes and to return all the things its void "ate" on the condition that Rezael is his caretaker now
>>92613423Nobody cares about vanguard lore.
>>92613472You've been trying this for months, faggot. Back to /ygo/.
>>92613423Is this really the lore? I thought amorta wasn't the real Liael, at least that's what someone posted before.
>>92613846Also>mourns Liael for centuries>kills herlmao
Kurheol realm should be a real deck.
How do I get into Vanguard?Are there any products that make it easy for new people to just start playing? Anything you guys would recommend?
>>92614147The newest batch of starter decks just came out recently and there's an accompanying video that teaches the basics. Keep in note that for some reason this group of starter decks are mostly "vanilla" units with the exception of the main Grade 3 unit and perfect guard.https://en.cf-vanguard.com/products/dztd01-06/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ0mFLydgVQ
>>92614194Oh, cool. Thanks anon.Are there any cards I should buy in addition to the decks, or are they playable out of tbe box?
>>92561226how will vanguard cucks ever recover from this?
>>92614236They are mainly meant to be used as a learning tool per se, but the next set coming out in early May will contain non-vanilla version of the cards included in those Starter Decks and cards to upgrade those decks.
Its dumb they made the starter decks a bunch of vanillas when their actual effects are not even complex.
>>92614281Not sure if I like having to rebuy the deck in a few weeks, but I'll pick one up to see if the game sticks. Thanks again
Just found out about G Format. Is it fun? I never played back then, but I generally like older formats in card games (like Goat Format for YGO or 93/94 for MtG).
>>92614361Fuck it, I guess I'll buy a deck. Anything to avoid powercreep.
>>92614357It really sucks, but at least the non-vanilla versions are all rares and commons, so at worst you spend maybe an extra two or three dollars total when replacing them.
>>92615413It's cool, I'll just think of it as a more streamlined way of upgrading a starter deck for any other game. At least it will be easy to know which cards to grab this way around.
FINAL TURN.
Now, imagine it... Our spirits are caressing our erect cocks on a planet similar to ours, called Cray...
>>92616007Still hilarious they had 2 episodes of G next where its just Shiranui dicking down most of the cast turning them to a jobfest.
>>92608257A Seven seas deck wouldnt even make Bushiroad or the playerbase sneeze right now. It only worked in the past because Bushiroad made BARELY any lightly conditioned G3s that raised the average power and how many attacks could be done which 7Seas preyed on.Decks now dont give a shit about that and overrun each other with intense amounts of pressure soon as they hit G3. Crit,triple drive,restands/battle superior calls,adding cards to hand,draw. At least 2 or more of those is available from their G3 for most decks and if not theres a support card that does on top of the often 10,000 power increase somewhere. Plus theres the shield increase as well. Outside of the odd basedface critical/overtrigger moment for a 7seaslike it would get rubber banded and shat on.
I just realized that Lyrical still doesn't have the "grade less than" heal triggers. I wonder why.
>>92616007>The gayest duo in a card game and it was up to vanguard.
Inliven MagicianACT (RC) 1/Turn: When you put three or more cards into your soul at the same time by your card or your card's ability during this turn, COST[CB1] draw a card, and this unit gets PWR +5000 until end of turn.Shady InstigatorAUTO: When this unit is placed on (RC) from hand, COST[SB3] draw a card, and this unit gets PWR +2000 until end of turn.
build alfred yes or no
>>92617495Inliven Magician's effect is not bad but I'm struggling to find any deck that can run her in a pretty good way. She is a grade 2 so Kheios is a no. She uses CB so Baro is a no. Her skill is auto so any VG that puts cards into the soul when attacking also can't use her. Maybe a future deck will be able to use her better.
>>92616861I would like to see Bushiroad to actually unrestrict those two cards and see how hard would Seven Seas get raked.>>92617102That's because no one would run it when it gives you less Shield compared to the RR ones even if it procs.
>>92613096you're right she was completely remade, but the other L-BT01 girls keep their identity and still use their OG G3s for the most part, like Alestiel as the other anon said or Claris or Loro, or they're still the same deck, like FeltyNeed to play Hermi and Fortia more but i like their re-trains too, it's their same gimmick but stronger, and they still use most of their old cards
>>92611421lyrical will get dual nation sidegrades of various previous bosses/popular RGs soon (who are all part of a lyrical deck), trust me broimagine gravidia, bav, hexaorb, etc. as a cutesy idol
>>92614361If you mean pure G-BT14 then yeah it's fantastic, there's tons of decks and they all feel really unique and flavorful.
>>92613255Alestial isnt a good example either. She has fans but it wasnt Meta. Loronerol, Willista V2,Luticia,Kairi Charmout and Prism is the meta stuff.>>92611761>Most are completly garbageTheres only one LM rideline that is garbage and thats Clarissa. Her G1 and G2 cannot search out her most vital card which is the Order,the Order itself requires a specific field and her G3+Order+rear combo runs a pretty high chance of getting gimped because people will just intercept to remove targets OR passively retire that field she needs for the order. Underperforming stuff like Kyouka,Mediel and Haseritt really just have power issues made by their G3s and theyre getting upgrades in the new set. The rest are all pretty good. If theres an issue with LM its that they get way too many bosses that are built around having an attack with 1 drive check>Charmout>Michu>Herminia>Fortia>Luticia>Petralka>Easter Alestial>FlammeGAnd most of them dont go beyond 4 attacks and a few share the cookie cutter ability to just ride up to the G3 with no discard.
>>92620494You forgot about best girl Lilfa though.
i'm gonna triple-sleeve and you can't do anything about it
>>92620494You forget that alestiel was pretty good and actually played in the format after festival 2023. Sure, was she a top tier deck like Wilista, Chonojet or Gandeeva? No. But very few decks reach that level, she was an actual viable and strong deck.
>>92620494>Petralka>1 attack with 1 driveSkill issue
I always forget lyrical exists
>>92621349so does bushiroad
>>92618136Maybe its for that new clown rideline in set 3
being a bushiroad fan in canada is a living fucking nightmare i want out please let me out of this god-forsaken country please just let me go
How many energy generators do I need?Is the one from the new structure deck enough?Newbie here, I'm fumbling around trying to learn while I wait on the deck to arrive.
>>92622707>How many energy generators do I need?1>Is the one from the new structure deck enough?yes
>>92622593At least Canada doesn't have a 2 week delay for DZ-BT01, the UK is getting it mid May at the earliest.
>>92622893Awesome, thanks
>>92622593>Imagine not living in the metro areas in Canada where stores that sell/run Bushiroad stuff actually existsSHIGGY DIGGY
Brainwash Swirlers will never get cheap, will they?
I still think the trial decks were made because they had a bunch of leftover artwork lying around but didn't know what to do with them.
>>92614361If you like playing Vanguard then yeah itll be fun. The question though is for how long. There is not much real deck vareity across clans because strides homogenize how decks win or operate(Royal/Shadow Paladin will for example never let go of their full turn 3-to-guard GB3 stride that copies the hearts abilities) and power gaps between what each deck can do is so large that not even triggers matter.
>>92626078fact is with the new effects and now energy generators bushiroad has locked themselves into another zeroth dragon style of power creep. If V series isnt at BCS im out for real.
i netdeck :)
>>92626894Net decking isnt bad anon-kun. Dont let the h8rs say other wise. I like building ground up myself I didnt feel qualified enough at first but net decking then rebuilding is just part of it.
>>92626927i cheat :)
>>92626936Then dont cheat lol
>>92626960i lied :)
>>92626966wut
Netdecking is barely even a thing in Vanguard. Cards are literally designed around working with specific Vanguards so you cant really experiment with anything.
>>92627060Vintage vanguard pre-clan is a huge open field of exploration within a clan my guy (Source: Been playing since release date)
>>92627087And then sub-clans basically ruined that and turned deck building into basically copypasta until G-Era is in full swing>Pre-clanDon't you mean Pre-Nation?
>>92627185meant pre sub-clan but fucked it up my bad lol
>win a world championship by cheating and not getting punished for itSeems worth it
>>92627271Apprently said person might get punished and we will know on May 1sthttps://en.bushiroad.com/news/updates-on-bushiroad-championship-series-2023-world-finals/
>>92626894>>92626936>i cheat :)don't care>i netdeck :)wtf is wrong with you.
is there a discord desu?
>>92626371Most Zeroths were ass with only Drachma and Dust mattering. The rest needed set up,the overtrigger, or just plain luck on their side to function. Save for Blangdimire who is practically a Dust expy the new cards we get are pretty controllable. And Blangdimire himself theyll probably hard counter with some Cray Elemental promo shit when they get tired of seeing people lose at 3 on their opponents second turn because of all the critical it puts on board. Its probably why they are printing out Daiyusha next set.V Series is dead btw. How have you not utterly forgotten it exists yet by now. The Nightrose/Ghostie and Luard support absolutely solved that format. All decks from it should be remembered as nothing but what you DONT do with Vanguard.
>>92628136I play vintage thats how I havent forgotten V and I hate strides. I like slower formats and card games.
>>92628119fuck off
>>92611232>Really weirdThe original sanctitude was unusable by regular G4 decks since you needed a G3 Vanguard. Its so they can have a Blitz Order PG to deal with those odd Loronerol and Dragstrider moments.
Will we see more divine skills in season 2? I have a feeling we will get a new divine skill Stoicheia rideline.
>>92614361Belive me anon, is the most based format.
>G format is basedDepends on which sets to go up to. GZ sets are cancer incarnate.
>>92626078If he is talking about G Format and not Premium as we know of, I think that anything after the last G set are not legal and consider any updates to be non-existent so it is considered another "Time Capsule" Format.
A friend recommended this deck to start with. Are there any purchases I should make to upgrade this deck, or is it okay as is?
>>92631748Definitely want to get the G4 unit Seraph Purelight and other Aurora Battle Princesses like Makarite Blue and Cuff Spring.If you money to burn or a locals that gives out promos you'll want Security Upgraders.Otherwise check out decklog and can pretty much filter for what you'll use.Also the deck is short four cards with the rule update earlier this year.
>>92631748>Imagine being Leah and con'd by Nova into playing PrisonJokes aside, you will probably need the following at a minimum:- 4x Seraph Purelight (Grade 4 "upgrade" of Seraph Snow)- 4x Security Upgrader (Helps you superior ride into the Grade 4, if you can wait until Festival Booster 2024 and Fated Clash for the reprint to come out since it is stupidly expensive at the moment)- 4x Violate Dragon / Planet Wall Dragon (Better Perfect Guards than the one included in the start decks and they all have the same effect, Fated Clash will include another version so you can just wait for that too if you don't want SPACE DRAGONS to ruin the aesthetics or something)- 4x Critical Triggers- 3x Ameliorate Connector (Better Draw Trigger that gives you 10k Shield if your opponent's vanguard is Grade 3 or greater)- 1x Star Dragon Deity of Infinitude, Eldobreath (Brandt Gate's Overtrigger, will be reprinted in Fated Clash so wait for price to dip a bit first)I'm sure there are other cards that you'd probably want but those are the main ones I could think of.
>>92631865Accuse Makarite I mean. I can't keep track of all their odd names.
>>92631748If you wanna get into the game I say you should just drop 130~ something on some Ebay deck rather than a starter. Seraph in particular youd be replacing practically everything but the OT,PGs and the rideline and doing that will cost hella more than just buying someone elses deck. Purelights alone will probably run you 80 bucks. If you want a recommendation are ok playing girl VGs then get one of the Lyrical bosses that are about to be supported. The ones you can get their cores at a good price are Lilfa(Blonde ponytail),Mediell(Green panda),Kyouka(blonde with naruto marks)and Haseritt(bunny)Michu(Pink with 6 fingers)and Luticia(Brown elf)youll get bled if you go for them.
>>92631130Almost certainly, but they might do an Overturn/Overkill thing where they have a different keyword for the "evil" 1/game skill
Is Premium Leuhan a shit idea?
>>92633911How does stride even work with D cards? They dont have a clan.
>>92633930You basically pick one specific Clan under the Nation and build around it, so using Leuhan as an example you can use either Royal Paladin, Shadow Paladin, Gold Paladin, Oracle Think Tank, Angel Feather, or Genesis. This also apply to your G-Zone as well:https://en.cf-vanguard.com/howto/vgd_premium_faq/
What rideline works best for the dinodragon promo g3 boss?
>>92613846>>92613860Amorta ISN'T the real Liael, she's Rezael's memories incarnated into Liael's bodyShe herself is aware of this existential nightmare but still loves Rezael like the real one and chooses to risk her existence to save him
Why are set 3 reveals taking so long?
>>92635554We get 8 of them next week and besides that shit is 3 months away with the Lyrical booster coming before it.
Dear days on sale? Finally?https://twitter.com/cfvanguard_PR/status/1784417263287689341
>>92637609>Inb4 its just 2 dollars less
>>92637672It better be good, and I'm hoping the dlc also goes on sale
>>92559910One thing that always impresses me is how Iron Anchor Resentment Dragon despite being probably either the best or second best common boss never got any support. I mean, even musashid got support.
>>92631130Got my fingers crossed for a new Lyrical one. Krysrain is a Divine embarassment.Speaking of Divine embarassments they really did Amorta fucking dirty. She can barely set up a bind zone and for a DIVINE SKILL the VG going -1 drive is retarded. I pray they give her an unfucked upgrade and some bind support in S2.
>>9263782410% off, no dlc on sale. Just let the game rest. They never wanted it to succeed.
New Thread: >>92639074>>92637609>>92637824>Imagine thinking the discount will be significant enough when it will just be another "10% Off" nothingburgerL E L
