My party slew a wing of wyverns in the megadungeon. Have decided a few things:>pseudodragons are wyvern infants, they lose their psychic abilities as they age and their venom becomes more dangerous>with a steady food source a wyvern can grow to almost adult size in a month>no natural predators except adult wyverns>with the wyvern adults slain, the eggs will hatch and wreck havoc on the local ecosystem , within a few game sessions caverns once populated with weasels & owl bears become home to fledging wyvernsAll I gotta do now is come up with some small & medium wyverns
>>92548729>>no natural predators except adult wyvernsThis is where you're making a mistake. There's at least 3 creatures in entry-level folklore that are infamous for preying on draconics. I'll give you some hints of where to start looking: one is Greek, one is Japanese, and one is Indian.
Wyvern derives etymologically from viper.
>>92548729
>>92548729>pseudodragons are wyvern infants, they lose their psychic abilities as they age and their venom becomes more dangerousThis is the only good idea you had.
>>92551212Ok, this is a very vague clue.I'm going to try to guess and say you're talking about dragons.
>>92558456... no. I'm telling you there's at least 3 other mythical creatures that eat dragons/serpents. Very basic folklore/mythology, you should know this if you're really running any sort of fantasy game.
>>92558772Ok, I don't know what you're talking about. Could you say what those creatures are for the OP to use.
>>92559156No. I've told you where to start looking, I'm not spoon-feeding you basic stuff, fucking lazy ignorant zoomer.
>>92559234Anon, stop being a fucking cunt about this. This exact type of faggotry is what made the board the way it is. Your hints are so vague they're completely useless, and most people won't scour the worlds mythologies for obscure monsters.
>>92558772Oh, that's easy. My penis, my left nut, my right nut.
>>92551212Easy shit: The blackfoot gigaferret, the giant mongoost, and the endangered cave squeeb would all make mincemeat out of your common cave-variety wyvern.
>>92559506>>92559509>>92559601>>92560982>>92561072>>92561965>when being unable to do even the most simple of internet searches turns you into an assblasted samefagging turbo spaz
>>92561991
>>92561991>>92562004
>>92561990>reddit movieyou are pure cancer
>>92562224>everything is redditSounds like you might be projecting.
>>92561990At least I'm not an autist that's incapable of having a simple conversation on the internet.
>>92562541No, you're an autist that expects a "conversation" (read "being spoonfed") about something you both lack the intelligence to do simple online searches about, and have no basic knowledge on to begin with. Literally no benefit or reward for me to indulge you until you prove you have even the slightest of interest to put the effort in yourself first, you lazy, ADHD-riddled, ignorant, retarded zoomer.
>>92562565>imagine expecting a reward from every conversation you hold and thinking answering simple conversational questions is spoonfeeding
>>92562607Still incapable of looking it up, aren't you? See, what sort of conversation could you possibly expect to hold with anyone if you have nothing to offer.
>>92551212>>92558772>>92559234>>92561990>>92562565>>92562629Just say what they are.No-one has time for your innane guessing-game faggotry, nigger-gollum.
>>92551212>looked it up>nonexistentDumbass.
>>92548729>no natural predators except adult wyvernsI bet dragons eat wyverns or they screw them, because dragons are sluts
>>92562986Nothing inane about it. In fact, you'd have to be a complete and utter moron to still have not found really basic information with all the context and search terms you've already been given.>>92563127Exhibit A.
>>92563194I found 5 scholarly sources that explain in detail that dragons have no natural predators
>>92563219I found 5 scholarly sources that explain in detail that you're a fucking retard that can't use a search engine.
>>92563245Oh, I guess you can't search through proper academic papers and will spend the rest of this thread butthurt now. Yeah, sorry I didn't look for whatever AI generated SEO spam you're trying to use to look smart.
>>92563283>Oh, I guess you can't search through proper academic papers and will spend the rest of this thread butthurt now.Or, I can, I'm just not as fucking ignorant as you.>Yeah, sorry I didn't look for whatever AI generated SEO spam you're trying to use to look smart.Yep, you've got me, I'm trying to drum up SEO search on easily found folklore that even Wikipedia has immediately to hand. Makes me tons of money in your paranoid fantasies, I guess.Let me know when you've worked out how to actually look up what 3 mythical creatures hunt dragons.
>>92563339I just found another source that says you're wrong.
>>92563722Literally doesn't matter when I'm sitting here with all 3 of them open in tabs, just laughing at how bad you are at finding completely unhidden and open information online.
>>92563792This paper I'm reading goes into debunking all the top search results on the subject one by one, I'm glad I didn't post them because I would feel pretty damn stupid to have trusted obvious misinfo.
>>92563861That's okay, now you can get to doing some actual research on the topic to find the 3 most obvious examples. I'll even give you another hint because I'm feeling generous: one's mammalian, one's avian, and the other is a myriapod.
>>92563924I found them all, thanks for the helpful hints, I'll be sure to use them in my world design.
>>92564491Finally, I can rest easy now knowing at least one other person has learnt the value of autonomous research.
>>92564537truly, you are a bastion of the spirit of tg, dispensing knowledge in a clear and respecatable manner, thank you!! I only wish I could sit at your table and play alongside you, oh how entertaining it would be...
>>92548729>a wing of wyvernDid your party run out of budget to kill the rest of the wyver?
Based schizoposter bumping sovlfvl worldbuilding thread
>>92564757>>92564634>>92564537>>92564491>>92563924You can stop replying to yourself now
>>92564889Why are you replying to yourself?
>>92551212>>92563924Alright, I think I had found at least two of them for anyone who cares.>the Roc the gigantic mythological bird from the Middle East>the Omukade is a giant centipede and obviously JapaneseThe last one has me stumped though since Greek dragons are killed by a mix of gods, demigods, and I believe a few humans.
>>92564939I got omukade and the garuda. There is no greek monster that hunts dragons and the biggest slayer of serpent beasts is Heracles.I'm sure that niggerfaggot will keep gloating (and won't provide an actual answer for the greek beast since it doesn't exist)
>>92564977I just found this thread but to keep in spirit here's a clue; the third one eats dragons from the inside out.
>>92565006I have honestly never heard of such a creature! This one is tough. A Greek mammal that eats dragons from the inside…
>>92551212>one is GreekSapient Cheiroballistra.>one is JapaneseHungry Chinese Immigrant kaiju.>and one is IndianPollution/Cholera elemental.
>>92565006The only thing I can find that fits the deception of a mammalian dragon-eater is the Ichneumon, but none of the source I’ve say it’s Greek.
>just look it up, its basic information >takes a thread of anons to figure out what the fuck he is talking aboutClassic
>>92564939>>92564977The original Anon is a faggot, none of those monsters killed a dragon.>>92565006no, he does not do it.
>>92566101The best thing is that he was wrong, none of those monsters eat dragons.
>>92558456>>92566863>>92566874I remembered that the tiger had the same power as the dragon, but that doesn't make it a predator.In the end I was right, the original anon is a redditor.
>>92562229
>japanese myriapod>definitely Omukade, known for tormenting and eating DRAGONS>greek mammal, "eats dragons from the inside out">likely Hydrus, which eats CROCODILES from the inside out. though often described as a serpent, it was described by Pliny the Elder (a greek) as likely an otter or mongoose (hence the mammal hint)>indian avian>likely Garuda, said to be the enemy of every serpent. This is probably the closest thing to being a "predator to wyverns">none of these prey on what can be described explicitly as "wyverns"It seems like this knowledge is "basic" because It took a skimming through three wikipedia pages. However, it's not "very basic mythology" because not only are these simply side-notes about not very popular creatures, this retard got his facts wrong and was busy jacking off to the smell of his own farts to notice. I solved your fucking riddle, now please go fuck off to receive your updoots you insolent trilobite.
>>92551212>>92558772So after some googling I got this>Greek - Ichneumon, basically a giant ferret/mongoose that covers itself in mud and hunts dragons, crocodiles and snakes>Japanese - Ōmukade, giant centipedes with invulnerable exoskeletons that could only be damaged by human salivaI can't figure out the Indian one though, but I did find two other dragon-slaying beings - Chinese Denglong and medieval Oliphant/Barrus (which was basically what medieval people thought an elephant was)
>>92567028To be fair, the original post said he knows about 3 creatures that prey on "draconics", not specifically on wyverns.Also I'm not sure Garuda even counts because it's an actual deity, not just a generic animal.I think the Greek one was supposed to be Ichneumon because it was first described by Greeks, but it also apparently was something that preyed on crocodiles and asps, not exactly dragons (unless people back then conflated all three together).
>>92564939Roc is actually a good shout, but that wasn't the one I was thinking of.>>92564977You've got 2/3 right, well done!>>92565168This is the one. The Ichneumon is supposedly from Africa, but is technically Greek myth, though I will acknowledge that was a tricky one.>>92567028Still made you educate yourself, though.>>92567423Brilliant work on the Denglong and the Elephas. The Indian one was the Garuda, depends on whether you follow the belief it was a single entity or a whole species.Come on, you guys have got to admit that was more rewarding than someone just handing you the information, not only did you find a lot of it yourself, you found even more beyond it and broadened your own knowledge. This is what /tg/ used to be before the bots came to scrape all the reply-less answers. I'm proud of you!
Anyone know of any pictures of a cyborg wyvern? I need it for something.
>>92568526This is the kind of thing AI slop is perfect for.
>>92566874I figured he was either wrong, referencing obscure mythology, or both a few posts in when a basic google search didn't help any. Honestly can't understand how people like that even function.
>>92568214Nigga this wasn't rewarding at all. You took a shit on poor OPs thread and then told us to figure it out.
>>92569543>struggles at using search engines properly>wonders how other people can even function
>>92548729>>92472319
>>92569069I tried that, but you get stuff with a lot of greeble rather than the flat plated shapes look.
>>92569702you are a faggot
>>92577921You're a projecting moron.
I hope everyone posting in this thread including myself is killed violently in the next week
>>92578568I'd try to encourage you to research help with your mental health, but fuck...
>>92561072My party fought a blackfoot gigaferret once. The wizard was instantly decapitated when it pounced, and the rogue and cleric were both torn to shreds in 2 rounds.
>>92561072>>92565043First one was a good attempt at creativity, but second one was more varied.
>>92578538>no uredditor
>>92587240I'll have to take your word on what reddit is like, poser.
>>92577754AI is still such trash.
>>92564939>>92567423I'm a gigaweeb so I knew Ōmukade beforehand and was gonna write it until I saw you guys had already brought it up. But I did not know that Greek one (despite having some familiarity with Greek mythology), nor do I know what the Indian one is.
>>92558772are you counting Garuda for eating Nagas?
>>92566863Garuda is said to eat Nagas which is a type of dragon
>>92603861Yes.
>>92600227>But I did not know that Greek one (despite having some familiarity with Greek mythology)That's because Ichneumon isn't a mythological creature, but something that was mentioned in old bestiaries and nature books as a supposedly real creature. Most probably it was just an attempt to describe a real life mongoose by someone who had never seen an actual mongoose.
>>92603906>Nagas which is a type of dragonFalse
>>92595147>no u againonly faggots say poser
>>92612970Still projecting this hard. Sad.
>>92612952True.
>>92612952True again.
>>92612952And again.
>>92613491>>92613475>>92613464That doesn't prove anything, the naga are not dragons.>>92613445>no u again
>Ichneumon>Ōmukade>creatures in entry-level folklore you are a poser
>>92548729I feel bad for OP, her thread was ruined by a radiditor in the first thread.
>>92613566>literal definitions>"nuh uh!!!"It's fine, you don't have to pretend like you know anything about this topic.>no u againYour projection is blatant.
>>92613610>samefagging out of sheer ignoranceSee >>92613710
>>92613723You don't even know what samefagging means, newfag.
>>92613710>literal definitions>Google translatorMidwit
>>92613816>newfagCute, more projection from you, samefagger.>>92613830So far, I've actually posted definitions. You've not. All you do is project how ignorant you are about this.
>>92614220>muh projectionIs it the only argument to know how to use?faggot redditor
>>92614321Argument against what, you getting mad and projecting? You've said fuck all else so far. Why don't you go back to your precious reddit if being this ignorant upsets you so much?
>>92612952They kinda are.
>>92614400Exactly. I'm willing to bet the fuckwit doesn't even know what the etymology behind "dragon" is, either.
>>92614364
>>92614400>>92614581no, they are not.It doesn't matter that in the original myth they were snakes, nagas are not dragons. And while we're at it, Wyverns are not dragons either.
>>92614591So is this your sad attempt at acknowledging you were wrong this whole time?
>>92614607Still waiting on you to actually provide any evidence, because so far I've posted multiple translations and links that show you're wrong.>they were snakes, nagas are not dragonsConfirmed for not knowing the etymology behind dragons.Look, why don't you come back when you've bothered to actually look up what you're vaguely angry about?
>>92614615You literally ruined the thread, nigger.Besides, nagas are not dragons, it doesn't matter what your stupid language says.
>>92614642>You literally ruined the thread, nigger.I couldn't give a fuck if you think it's ruined, all I did was dragged you ignorant fucks to knowledge, no matter how unwilling you were.>Besides, nagas are not dragons, it doesn't matter what your stupid language says.I'm English, and my language says otherwise. Shame you have fuck all knowledge about this, and yet are so invested in being wrong.
>>92614637>evidenceyou didn't give any redditor.>muh translationsDragon meant snake in Greek, that's why the machine gives you that answer.>Confirmed for not knowing the etymology behind dragons.It was what the Greeks called snakes. precisely δέρκομαι means a penetrating look or looking directly
>>92614667You are a pretentious redditor.
This thread confirms that redditors use /tv/ gifs to look cool
>>92614686>you didn't give any redditor.I literally gave you multiple screenshots. Does that not count as evidence back on reddit for you, projecto-kun?>Dragon meant snake in Greek, that's why the machine gives you that answer.You're so close to the truth, it's fucking hilarious.>It was what the Greeks called snakes. precisely δέρκομαι means a penetrating look or looking directlyAnd have you managed to put 2 and 2 together to realise what that means? Have you figured out why WORLD-WIDE, "dragon" covers many different types of supernatural, reptilian, serpentine creature? Let me know when you do, because it will be priceless.>>92614703You're a moronic projecting samefagging cunt, who STILL has no idea what he's talking about.
>>92614719More samefagging and nothing of substance. Probably sums up your life, right?
>>92614735>samefaggingredditor, that's when I answer myself. I understand that you're a newfag, but one day you have to grow up.
>>92614722again, it doesn't matter that dragons were originally snakes.From the Middle Ages onwards they stopped being dragons, and the naga were never dragons.
>>92614760No, you dumbfuck, it's when you pretend to be another poster because you want to act like you've got support. You don't. You're a moron projecting so fuck hard you might as well be playing these gifs directly on a wall yourself. Take your reddit and shove it.>>92614781More samefagging, learn what the fuck you're even talking about. Nagas are dragons, deal with it.
>>92614795>it's when you pretend to be another poster because you Yes and that can only be done by responding to my posts. If you weren't a redditor you would realize that I never pretended to be two people.I also see that you ran out of arguments.Not all monsters with snake parts are dragons, end of argument.
>>92614830>Yes and that can only be done by responding to my posts.No, you dumbfuck, you can samefag on other people's posts, as you've displayed clearly over the last 2 hours.>If you weren't a redditor you would realize that I never pretended to be two people.You seem to know more about reddit than me, which makes it clear you're projecting, but yes posting MULTIPLE replies to the same post is you pretending to be someone else. Denying it reinforced it, so now you're not only an ignorant cunt, you're a dishonest one as well.>I also see that you ran out of arguments.We're still on the same argument, nothing has changed, you still don't get that nagas are dragons. Can't move any further forward if you're just going to be a retard.>Not all monsters with snake parts are dragons, end of argument.Nobody said that, so yeah you began and ended a completely separate argument in a single post all on your own, well done! Now back to the main one: nagas are dragons.
>>92614853literally everything you said is wrong,redditor.
>>92614884Just keep reading this pic over and over until something sparks in that nugget of shit you laughably call a brain, ignorant protecting cunt.
>>92614893>naga are serpentsnope,I have never seen a snake with a human head.>and dragon means serpenty δέρκομαι means a penetrating look or looking directlyAccording to your logic, Medusa is a dragon, since she is a half-snake woman.Also you used a literal reddit meme, don't bullshit me
>>92548729>no natural predators except adult wyvernsAnd why not use dragons? Those monsters are bigger, it would make sense for them to be predators.
>>92617356cool
>>92616626Would it make sense for dragon to hunt wyverns, though? Something as big as a dragon would require a huge amount of meat and there's probably more sense in hunting huge meaty herbivores like elephants or sauropods than comparatively lanky and lean wyverns (on top of the fact that herbivores taste better than carnivores).
>>92618779Yes, you have a good point.
The oomukade doesn't eat dragons either, ryu aren't dragons
>>92616592See >>92614893
Will anons itt ever realize that "dragon" and similar words are, ultimately, just western umbrella terms that are commonly used (and have been used in the past) to refer to a huge varienty of beings and monsters with reptilian (specifically serpentine) features and can cover an absurd amount of entities from different cultures, with different body types, behaviours, supernatural powers and amounts of heads, legs and limbs, and that a lot of these entities may not have been referred to as "dragons" by cultures they originated from?
>>92619355You don't have to say "anons", it's one ignorant autist that doesn't understand what words even mean but insists on arguing semantics. The rest of us are happy with dragons being an umbrella term.
>>92619055Oh shut the fuck up, you stupid prick. Ryu means dragon in Japanese.
>>92619055Also Wyverns are not dragons.>>92620952false, doragon is what they call dragons.
>>92619205>>92619379I accept your concession,redditor.
>>92619355because no one ever said that nagas were dragons.
>>92551212fpwp you literally ruined the thread
>>92624779I heard you the first time, samefagger, and you're still wrong. Stupid cunt.
>>92625408>no argument>He still doesn't know what samefagging means>He didn't answer and avoided my question like a coward.I accept your concession,redditor.
