What are the fucking pros and cons of truck-based SUV's and pickup trucks?
>truck based suv prosbody on frame so it's strong, easy repair, and good offroad.truck parts fit, so parts are cheaptruck bed, transmission, and engine so you can generally tow a lot, and use it as a truck that stuff is harder to steal out of(important in the coming era).pickup trucks get all the above+ longer beds, but lose the interior covering unless you get a camper shell.Biggest con?initial cost, mpg's(compared to cars), and general running costs.Heavier items=more wear=more cost. At least compared to your basic cheap commuter. Even then the american trucks have so many made that economy of scale for parts can counter this right the fuck out.Oh, and if you live in CA a pickup is a "commercial vehicle" so your registration costs more. Like 300 vs 150 for a suv.
>>27608450BOF SUVs are charmingly crashy, effortless, and floaty all at once. My ML55 feels like a GTA 4 car and it brought memories of my old piece of shit Montero Sport.
>>27608450truck good truck based SUV more good
>>27608450Pro: more off road accessories availableCon: frame takes space, less roomy for size of vehicle
>>27608450>prosTruck chassis and drive train so you can tow a boat or car or whatever. Often 4wd with 4 low which is good for pullint a heavy boat up a slick ramp, offroading meme or just plowing through a two of snow in your driveway and worry about shoveling later. >badBody on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails. Often a log axle in the rear which requires a hump in the floor. No flat low floor like a minivan. Bad empeegees.
>>27609118The Element is unfathomably based but it's a unibody, silly goose.
con: worse mpg compared to a SCLB truck on the same platform and less load headroom, have to share interior with things you throw in the back.pro: can comfortably fit 7 people, can sleep in it in comfort, flat floor, better in the snow due to constant rear weight, often less abused than a truck, always has a "locking topper" so you can throw things in the back and forget about them.
>>27609118>4 low which is goodTo put less strain on the gearbox also>Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails.Not "compromised", it usually eats only into height.>Often a log axle in the rear Having "log axle" in the rear is a pro: more robust, less maintenance required, repairs are cheaper>which requires a hump in the floorHardly. A lot of truck-based SUVs have flat floor>No flat low floor like a minivan.Again, BoF trucks and SUVs usually don't even have the transmission tunnel because the shaft is inside the frame, not inside the cabin. Unibody cars with RWD/AWD on the other hand usually do.>Bad empeegees.Usually comparable to the cars of similar weight. Inertia is a bitch, aero starts to matter only on the highway.
>>27609132>can comfortably fit 7 peopleBut 3rd row in Suburban is for manlets/children
>>27608883>>27609118spotted the two gay homo nancyboys
>>27609127That's why it has a low floor like a minivan.
>>27609140>aero starts to matter only on the highway.Theoretical top speed of the 1980-1986 Bronco is 87 mph because it has the aerodynamics of the bastard love child between a barn and a brick.Coupled with the fact that a Corolla is longer and you get a very twitchy vehicle at speed.
>>27609140>SUVs have flat floor
>>27609162Why would I want to remove a seat from my SUV if I can fold it
>>27609141I'm 6'2 180 and I fit pretty comfortably in the back of one. I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two. I've had more room in some third rows than the second row of a Tacoma or a 4Runner. Keep in mind even with the third row up in a Burb or a Yukon XL you still have more cargo room than most crossovers. These are big vehicles.
>>27608481>mercedes in the driveway>bars on the windowsyup, its third world time
>>27609227>I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two.This is basically my point. If you can bear it only for an hour or two, it's not "comfortably".
>>27609152that would be very cool if i was 5'5
>>27609247Still. Short of an actual bus it's as good as it gets and still beats the second row of some vehicles. If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.
>>27609132>often less abused than a truckThis is a highly overlooked pro. Anyone starting a business from scratch that thinks they need a truck for tools should at least consider a full size SUV. They carry marginally less than a truck with a top, aren't as raped a used van and don't have that trugggg tax
>>27609267>previous owner was mexican/momYeah I love factory fluids and 25k oil changes
>>27609261>still beats the second row of some vehiclesThis I can agree with, but>If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.that's not what "comfy" means
>>27608450Pro:its generally a fucking cheap way to get a half tonne truck, enclosed canopy like a vanmost of them did not offer the base powertrains from their truck counterparts. A tahoe/expedition will always be a v8Con:heavier than a glorified minivan with less space2500s became meme mobiles for people who haven't discovered full size vans to blow 5 figures on
>>27608450The main con of truck-based SUVs for me is how few have been offered in the US in the last 10-15 years. You're basically limited to either gigantic $80k 7,000lb landbarges or meme vehicles like the Wrangler that are compromised to hell for the removable top and doors. I would've bought the hell out of a Ford Everest if they sold it here but I had to settle for a Ranger instead.
Does anybody here got a GMT800 2500 Suburban or Yukon XL? The 800 market is obviously fucked but these seem to be less effected, especially as gas prices rise. I also want one so I can avoid the 4L60E fuckery. Are they worth the meme prices?
>>27609182Back of a seat isn't the floor.
>>27609631It is if you walk over or put stuff on it, it's flat and rigid enough and is made for that specific purpose.
>>27608450What's the point? Whatever you have in the back will get wet in the rain or blown away in the wind
>this is considered a 10/10 on /o/
>>27609728Metallic blue, tan interior, 4WD 2 door with the 350? Yeah, I'm erect.
>>27609728Looks pretty fucking good. Shame it costs so much.However I never trust a freshly repainted car. Even if it was repainted it should have some age on it. Repaint to sell means it's a cheap cover meant to hide shit. By time you spent money for a job well done you invested too much to resell.
>>27609728not even a burger but you're a poof if you don't like something like this
>>27609776I don't think it's a repaint.
>>27609728holy fucking shit, that is so fucking beautiful
>>27608547I fucking love those fucking older gm's as well, they are so fucking cool
>>27609728>this is something you used to be able to buy brand new right off the line
