How should Porsche deal with this car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gas?It's kind of shitty for these companies that build these cars with very expensive bleeding edge components and manufacturing and then lose money because nobody buys them because it is 15 years too early for Boomers to use them as a money making strategy. Imagine being Porsche giving a MSRP of 448k to the Carrera GT and then 20 years later the same car comes for some servicing but now the car is worth 1.8 million dollars. Just giving some context for you to take into consideration before coming up with a solution to the Carrera GT problem.
>>27601807speak english
>>27601814Here comes the grammar Nazi. What's wrong with my English?
>>27601819None of it makes sense, what's the point you're trying to make?
>>27601824Where doesn't make sense?
>>27601807What the fuck are you asking?> this car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gas?Theres like one fatal accident with this car> and then lose money because nobody buys themWhat the fuck are you on about, the CGT is highly sought after
>>27601827You're all over the place in your post, what are you trying to get at in your message?
>>27601807sorry but if Doug demuro can daily this car, it isn't dangerous shitty tires were the reason these crashes happen
>>27601830You are asking me to re-write my post as if I didn't do just that. Where is the problem? What is the sentence that is badly worded?>>27601828>what the fuck are you asking>proceeds to answerIt seems you understood me just fine but in any case, where is the offending sentence?>>27601835>dailyCarrera GT is not meant to be a grocery shopping car to be driven at under 60mph. It is meant to be a track weapon driven at the limit of physics.
I translated this post:>How should Porsche deal with the fact that after building a cutting edge car and having to sell them for a loss because nobody wants them at launch, they suddenly shoot up in value that far exceeds their initial MSRP once old people have locked them in their sheds for 20 years?
>>27601842I still dont understand why this is a problem
>>27601869>i dont understand why a car killing it's driver is a problemt.porsche lawyer
>>27601869I don't either. Every halo car is a calculated loss. And every meme classic becomes unreasonably expensive and over hyped after 15 years, not that anybody buys for those prices anyway. Look at the original NSX for example
>>27601879I move to dismiss, the plaintiff can barely speak english and clearly escaped a mental institution
It's been out of production for 20 years now, it's no longer Porsche's problem
>>27601839>. It is meant to be a track weapon driven at the limit of physics.are you 12 or something ?
>>27601807Why is it when europeans build shitty handling cars its "bad ass" but when americans do it its just not being able to turn?
>>27601910so because it's been 20 years it suddenly not Porsche problem?
>>27601984On Porsche's defense, they built Carrera GT at the specifications of their customers. Americans just build trash cars.
>>27601999so their customers wanted a trash car?
>>27602005Well no. They wanted a "badass car" as you put it. No safety = bad ass. Boomer mentality. The problem is they sell these death machines to unsuspecting people.
>>27602010shit handling is a form of no safety, and trash vehicle design.
>>27602011>shit handling is a form of no safetyLol at bus rider takes: The Carrera GT has "shit handling" Thanks for the worthless imput
>>27602025>the carrera GT has attributes associated with shit handling american cars>but its not shit handling because... Porsche did it on purpose?this goes back to my original question.also i have a car, so stop deflecting.
>>27602011The car just loses grip when you step off the gas like the og Porsche 911 Turbo but this time Porsche was asked to built the car this way. The problem is people are selling Carrera GT's to people who don't know any better. Look at these seasoned Nurburgring amateur driver scared shitless after being in a Carrera GT with new tires from two weeks ago. He says he doesn't want to do it again as in he doesn't want to be in a Carrera GT ever again.https://youtu.be/tkiHZlFcOTA?si=Z8xaV0zvXb2QS8ZQ&t=603
>>27602041>The car just loses grip mustangs do this too. and people say its because they don't handle well. if your car is so unstable that it scares you its probably not a very good handling vehicle.but again, this is somehow laudable because the car is expensive and european and has a spoopy lore around it.
>>27602011I always thought it was a bit funny when motoring journalists had to drive behind a pace car on a wide track when they got to “test drive” it in 2003 and they weren’t allowed to floor it. But Porsche knew what they had built.
>>27602037>the carrera GT has attributes associated with shit handling american carsLiterally no one not retarded has ever thought or said thisRetards are confusing hard to drive with bad handling
>>27601807>skill issue retard
>>27601999>Americans just build trash cars.And your country doesn't make cars at all, Muhammad. Simping for European cars won't make you any less brown and nor will it make Europeans detest you any less.
>>27602117based
>>27602057Older Mustangs with open differentials that don't have traction control do. Newer Mustangs have LSDs and traction control.
>>27602099but shit handling vehicles are inherently hard to drive. as the other anon said...>it just loses gripwhat kind of piece of shit does this? this isn't excusable on a mustang so why a """state of the art""" supah caru.
>>27601992Yes? What do you want them to do? It's not like they could make a refresh/update with revised suspension as if the car was still in production
>>27601905Dismissal accepted, OP is retarded
Porsche shills out in full force ITT kek
>>27602117Bruised ego? I didn't say anything nobody has ever said. It is a well known fact Americans build trash cars.
>>27601992Volkswagen doesn't do recalls chud
>>27602135this, holy shit. if this thing had a chrysler badge they wouldn't shit the fuck up about how it can turn.
>>27602138but why do we glorified european manufacturers when they do it?
>>27602138>Americans build trash c-ACKK
>>27602146always warms my heart when people post my old meme image.
>>27602145They were asked to build it that way. Americans just build bad cars.
>>27602135>shilling for a 7 figure car that won't even bring profit to the manufacturer>on /o/ at that
>>27602150>europe was asked to built trash cars
>>27602123>>it just loses grip>what kind of piece of shit does this?This is what I'm talking about. Bus riders utterly mystified by a high hp car losing grip in its drive wheels. Like handling fundamentals are a mystery to them they misread as something else.It happens in LITERALLY every performance car you can think of
>>27602135You better believe we are working as hard as possible to ensure /o/ still likes a limited-run supercar that we produced 20 years ago
>>27602161so the problem with the Carrera GT is downforce? Could Porsche fix the car going haywire with more downforce? Did you just solved the Carrera Gt problem?
>>27602161>losing grip and crashing is just handling fundamental bro!can you remember how many times lewis hamilton's F1 car just lost grip and he did an epic drift around Spa? how many nascar style pileups does F1 have from cars just losing grip?why are these handling characteristics that have been so long associated with trash vehicle design on muscle cars suddenly a feature?
>>27602165>limited-run supercar that we produced 20 years agoYou aren't boomer multi-millionaires. Porsche never intended you shills to own them and yet here you are still simping for them. They'd kick your smelly poorfag ass out of the dealership the moment they caught sight of one of your kind in their showroom. Make no mistake, you aren't their target clientele. They'd sooner torch a Porsche than have to experience embarrassment from the public seeing one of you subhumans in their car degrading their precious brand image.Yurocucks loooove doing this. You watch F1 religiously yet will never drive one. Americhads watch stock car racing and can afford to buy and do drive those cars.
>>27602194>why are these handling characteristics that have been so long associated with trash vehicle design on muscle cars suddenly a feature?Your stupidity is beyond comprehension.You might as well be asking why the car goes into a wall when you steer it into the wall if its a good car
>>27602174It's transmission and downforce. You can't fix it without a bunch of ugly wings and to drive it faster than it can normally go in turns. It's not designed to race.You need to go so very fast for a behemoth like that to get downforce, and it would never get there before it falls off the road.
>>27602217your steering false equivalency implies that this shit handling is the driver's fault. if its "just losing grip" then its clearly the car's problem. not all powerful cars make you feel "scared" to be in them. just the highly unstable shitboxes, do.pic related. a well engineered powerful vehicle from Japan.
>>27602041Why do Porsche still makes these cars use 20 year old compound technology? A newer compound could potentially fix the car.
>>27602073And it begs the question: Why not test drive and buy the pace car then instead if Porsche already knew that’s what a random petrolhead actually could handle on a track?
If EVs are so good why they have to be government mandated?
>>27602243VAG and by proxy Porsche is government mandated by the german government. its no wonder the Carrera GT handles so shitty. it might as well be built by the UAW.
Never heard of any Ford GT losing grip and crashing
>>27602227>implies that this shit handling is the driver's fault.>pic related. a well engineered powerful vehicle from Japan.Nürburgring lap times:Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.71Honda NSX (Mk II) 7:36.00The 20 year old "bad handling" (lol) prime supercar from Porsche outhandles your "good handling" exampleI don't know how much more I can high light how you literally don't know shit about cars or car handling. You are incredibly stupid.
>>27602227The NSX is made in the US, just like the Type R is made in UK. Japan makes jack.>>27602254That's because it's better at straights, just like the NSX I and the Tesstarossa.
>>27602254>it may handle like shit and crash but it has fast lap timesdoes this mean muscle cars actually handle better than things like Lotus? cause it has faster lap times.
>>27601807>car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gasThat's a feature, not a bug. Vehicles with knife edge handling require the utmost respect or the ride will teach you what respect means. Any amount of focus taken away from the driving experience itself, will kill you and that's in itself is what a true track weapon was before the days of electronic driving safeties. Not everyone could handle the level of responsibility and maturity it requires to pilot a freakin race car on the street and to be fair, I think computerized driving aids to reduce the skill ceiling allowing normies to drive a race car on public roads is wrong. It's becoming too easy for normies to buy 2+ ton cars that can 0-60 in 2-3 seconds, it's absurd.
>>27602261>The NSX is made in the USdesigned by japs. its a weeb mobile through and through.
>>27602254A Carrera GT MSRP was 448k in 2004, that is 740k today according to US inflation calculators and we know the official 65% inflation number by the US government is half of what we see out irl.
>>27602263I'd like to see a second lap and it's numbers on these two lmao
>>27602263On that track yeah, numbers don't lieWhat doe that have to do with retards confusing a good handling car being pushed past the limit with being inherently bad handling?
>>27602277don't you think a """state of the art""" super car should have a higher limit than "just lose grip"?
>>27602263How about a track with more turns?
>>27602285Tell the coping Carrera GT fag that.
>>27602210I have no fucking clue what you’re trying to get at
>>27601839Why is it street legal then?
>>27602210Good post, but this>Americhads watch stock car racing and can afford to buy and do drive those cars.is mostly wrong, they are "stock" only in the name which is misleading.
BREAKING NEWSIf you exceed the limit of traction in a car and don’t know what you’re doing you can crash and die.In other news, eating 2,000 calories with no exercise makes you gain weight, wild!
>>27601807do you think chefs cry that the food that was sold for cheap gets more attention than they thought?no, they just move on to the next dish
>>27602233>why does a 20 year old car use 20 year old technologyhmm, beats me
>>27602270and it flopped so hard.
>>27602194>>27602222>>27602282>jannies deleting images???