We all know who the strongest robots are, but what about the absolute weakest ones? I'll let you decide the criteria on what "weakest" implies but this is for actual pilotable mecha robots, humanoids two legs two arms one head so no gundam balls or shitty 86 spiders or any of that cannon fodder.(image only for illustrative purposes)
>>22570906The breadnought, probablyThough I guess even that could be considered more effective than defective shit that doesn't work and blows itself up like the X-Aestivalis or Jet Alone
These things had guns so piss poor they could do absolutely no damage to the comparatively thinly armored V-Gundam types and their ilk.
>>22570929Wasn't the V Gundam potentially vulnerable to the likes of the tiny bazookas the chicks in bikinis were packing?How weak is that things gun it did no damage.
>>22570906You can't beat this one.because it will lose before you reach it.
>>22570929>>22570937The Gwigsy was mainly intended as a police vehicle inside colonies and the gun was intended for anti-riot purposes, so probably some kind of tear gas or other non-lethal launcher, so it really was unable to do anything when shooting directly at mobile suit armor.
>>22571023>non-lethal launcherLook at the fucking size of the magazine on it.
>>22570906Patlabor mechs are all workhorses and don't get no miracle machine special treatment
>>22571032non-lethally mowing down protestors with 20mm Autocannon fire
>>22571032gundam is no stranger to bullshit weapon bore sizes, going way back to the "280mm" and other bazookasat first the model sheet art used for the gundam's hyper bazooka specified 700mm, but databooks have been consistently stating 380mm since the early 1980s
>>22571106Fiction writers in general should stop writing distinct measurement numbers into all their shit, none of them have even a basic understanding of any sort of scale or measurements.
>>22571032He said non lethal not non painful
>>22571109some of the justifications and retcons are sorta hilarious toolike the gouf custom's massively oversized wrist guns that are supposedly 35mm? I guess one artist figured it could be handwaved as massive barrel covering for smaller gatling guns because 35mm is TINY, when the head vulcans on fed MS are supposed to be 60mm guns
I just made this fag he's from Anonymous' Paint Folder and he's really weak probably the weakest mecha there is I hate him so much
>>22571669I don't know he looks like he shoots some powerful beams from those eye lenses.
>>22570906
>>22571791Boss Borot was a stupid jobber clown made out of scrap metal, but he was still allowed to have more credability at times than the chick bots with his buffoonary thwarting villains and saving the day.Why even have the female robots around as part of the fighting force if they aren't allowed to be even basically competent?For some reason the team of nameless bikini chicks in MP lady robots who existed for publicity purposes were the most competent version of the girl sidekick robots ever seen in the main series.Hell they were certainly far more useful than the shitty MP Ichiranas used by the army as well, who were basically an insult to the concept of Mazinger.What this basically boils down to is there are multiple examples of incredibly weak machines in the franchaise below the Borot, despite not being designed as joke robots made of garbage.
He's got the heart of a champion!
>>22571867Dai-Guard would make great sense as the 'Super Robot' in a SRW that was focused around the likes of Patlabor and Dominion Tank Police.
>>22571791Yeah that's the strongest robot but what about the weakest one?
>>22571870>hurr supa robot
>>22575584Why the fuck did you even bother bumping the thread with such a shit reply.
>>22570937the shoulderpad that RPG took off was more I-Field Generator than armor, IIRC.>>22570906GM's a bad example mostly because they ARE actually superior to Zeon MS in most aspects short of specifically the Dom's hovering (an advantage lost on the Rick Dom) and the Gelgoog itself/late war models. It's just the pilots literally had a month or two to learn how to pilot them, if that, while Zeon had been training with MS for years. Put a skilled pilot like Lon Kou, Tenneth A. Jung, or Francis Backmeyer in one and they can turn the tide of battle.
>>22575595>GM's a bad example mostly because they ARE actually superior to Zeon MS in most aspects short of specifically the Dom's hovering (an advantage lost on the Rick Dom) and the Gelgoog itself/late war models. It's just the pilots literally had a month or two to learn how to pilot them, if thatApolly and Roberto say something akin to this in Zeta's 1st few mins, even. >"We didn't survive the One Year War by being slow learners. It was sink or swim!" ...or something like that.during the OYW, a GMs worth was not determined by it's own performance, but how fast the pilot could pick up...well, piloting.
>>22575595The GMs themselves also had to fight Zeon plot armor where Zakus and other machines outperformed them in implausible ways regardless of pilot.
>>22570906Which mech has the worst Kill/Destroy ratio?
>gets owned by a mech 1/6th of its size and loses its entire arm from firing its own weapon
>>22575792Do we count Windams? They finally got a kill.
Those mining suits from AGE I reckon
>>22575874
Beloved trashcan. Shitty mech.
>this thinglollmfao
>>22570919JA was sabotaged
>>22571032Non-lethal in this case being "it is okay if the one guy gets made into red paste". You know, to make an example of the crowd.
>>22570906Aren't the VOTOMS liable to explode if they fall to the ground?
>slow as molasses compared to every other machine fighting in the conflict >can't even deal with the enemy force's most basic units>every mission involving them is about you pulling their asses out of the fire
>>22582259Fist of Mars is the best game in the series, because the LEVs in the team can actually kick ass.The animes also have some examples of more advanced LEV models, with more thrusters and beam rifles.
>>22582259I thought it was being piloted by a cat.
King of the jobbers
>>22582254All Armored Troopers are really fucking flammable, yes, but they still boast enough armor to shrug off small arms, very high speed and agility, great versatility, high modularity, and a capacity to carry large volumes of firepower. A weak VOTOM would have to lack many of these qualities, something that not only has shitty armor but a shitty gun, mediocre or poor speed and responsivity, etc. etc.
>>22582465There must be some example in the series of an AT outdated model used by the likes of terrorists or a small poor faction that is fucking garbage compared to the humble Scopedog that is used in the millions in a single planetary assault
Zeon mass-production machines are generally made of tissue paper, even going as far as CCA. Fucking Geara Doga got shredded by vulcans.
>>22570906In terms of Gundam stuff, the GM Ground type amd GM Command Colony type, and GM Cold District have 0 confirmed kills and all of them are instantly when they show up so I’m gonna throw those in there
>>225826830080 takes place entirely because a GM Cold District got a kill.
>>22582689They killed the pilot not the mech.
>>22582691That's a hardcore cope.
>>22582691Hamburger cannot be produced without death anon.
>>22582494AT Development is gone over in some magazines.
>>22582683Cold Districts does pretty well in the Blue Destiny manga.
>>22582360>named character gets inside of it>suddenly a good suit
>>22583539One of my favorite things in mecha is MC's in grunt suits kicking ass.
>>22571791Boss is technically an ace pilot based on his kill count.
>>22575587Not as shit as >>22571870 bbqh
>>22576202more like the most powerful mech.
>>22583539It's definitely a turn when you see Leos eating shit so easily from everything, to suddenly being this well-armored and super agile machine of death when someone who isn't a no-name piloting it.
>>22583920Its just showing them how they should be, compared to when going up against primary characters or antagonist factions when they basically just stand there to pad out the action scene as targets.
>>22583929No, it's clearly plot armor, like when Treize defects during the mobile doll demonstration, his Leo takes the combined fire of four mobile doll Leos without a single scratch on his own. It's not like they were firing wadcutters either, they were destroying vehicles to highlight their effectiveness.
>>22582689How big are the rounds fired by the GM Type D?
>>2258397490mm like the usual Jim guns. The bullet could have fragmented its way through though.
>>22583951>plot armorGo back retard.
>>22584154Eat shit, it's not a new or uncommon observation.
>>22584154People have used the term plot armor on /m/ longer than you've been alive.
>>22583929No, it's absolutely plot armor.>main cast members doing better in Leos than any other pilot, ever>Leos taking more damage than they ever take from Gundams or each other previously while relevant characters are in them>side cast members doing better and/or taking more damage in common suits than would otherwise be possibleOne of the mose egregious examples of this had to be when Quatre was picked up by those UESA remnants who then sent him off alone in space in what was left of a Leo
>>22584169>One of the mose egregious examples of this had to be when Quatre was picked up by those UESA remnants who then sent him off alone in space in what was left of a LeoWhat's egregious about this? I don't understand the context of this one.
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>>22584515At least the Genoace II is cool
>>22584520>>22584515it was less the MS and more the weapon, as the dinky laser gun couldn't scratch a Gafran. Once the DODS rifle was mass-produced it could more or less hold its own in a fight
>>22584154>touristposter outs himself as giganewfaggot, yet again
>>22584169>>22584511Quatre stole a shuttle and went into space, but suffered a bit of an emotional episode because his Gundam was destroyed an episode or two ago. He's in some kind of fucked up catatonic state where he's half unconscious but also sleeptalking over the radio, and his shuttle is drifting toward an Alliance-supporting colony that will be soon attacked by OZ. The shuttle ends up being the goal of both OZ and Alliance forces in the area. Both sides want to capture Quatre; OZ want to detain him as an enemy, while the Alliance commander thinks Quatre could be a valuable ally to have against OZ.Anyway, the fight goes badly for the Alliance but they somehow still reach the shuttle first. The Alliance commander boards the shuttle to find that Quatre is asleep and won't wake up. The guy considers his side to be a lost cause, but takes pity on Quatre just being a kid, so he prepares a last-minute plan to trick OZ. He puts Quatre inside his Space Leo, and then takes over the shuttle's controls himself. He pretends to shoot at the Space Leo with Quatre inside, causing severe but not life-threatening damage. Then the Alliance commander starts the shuttle's engines and speeds away, grabbing the attention of all the OZ forces in the area who proceed to immediately target and shoot the fuck out of him. The guy dies but successfully makes everyone believe that Quatre is dead, when in reality Quatre is now adrift in a wrecked Space Leo.You can see the relevant part of the episode here:https://youtu.be/seOb3N71Re8?t=787
>>22584169Reminder that Wufei was fighting with lethal intent and was actually believing his own koolaid at the time
>>22584169>main cast members doing better in Leos than any other pilot, everWhen you install Heero inside a Leo, the dobergun is automatically upgraded to a beam-firing model, when previously that was exclusive to the Tallgeese.
>>22585583No anon, that has nothing to do with Tallgeese.Its entirely due to the animators being faggots and unable to decide if the the Dobergun in general is a shellfiring gun or a beam cannon.
>>22570937>>22575595The RPGs were fired at the V2B's reactive armor attachments, it was meant to blow up by design.
>>22585579I definitely don't remember that instance, but that is a pretty good example.
>>22585738By a stroke of luck, although the animators fucked up, for the most part Leo Doberguns rarely ever fire beams, the example in >>22585583 is pretty much the only time it ever happened. Tallgeese's dobergun commonly fires both beams and projectiles from its bazooka. It's a bit of a soft and bullshit handwave explanation from side material that comes after-the-fact, that Tallgeese's dobergun is a more expensive dual-mode version, while the Leo dobergun is a cheaper model that is meant to fire projectiles. Supposedly the MS Encyclopedia had this to say:>https://mechatalk.net/viewtopic.php?p=336373&sid=d3faef539d87c4ba690c8d928eb08dbb#p336373>Tallgeese: "Thanks to its long barrel and beam firing speed, it can shoot accurately even at long distances. The Leo wields long-range weapons of the same type, but with subtle differences in form.">Leo: "The same type of long-range weapon equipped by the Tallgeese. It's the only weapon in the Leo's arsenal capable of damaging a Gundanium-armored MS."It's a bit telling that they very specifically use this phrasing and say that the Leo doesn't have the SAME weapon but "same type" of weapon but with "subtle differences" because they know the animation fucked up and drew the same weapon but firing different effects.
>>22584156Tropes aren't real.
>better output and performance than the Zaku II>Gundam pilot data>Titanium-Ceramic composite alloy that was superior to Zaku II steel construction >better access to beam weapons than Zeon>Still barely able to go toe to toe with the Zaku IIWere Federation pilots really just shit or something?
Ah forgot pic fuck
>>22592524that's just on-screenin reality it's at least a dom-tier MS if not better
>>22592524>Were Federation pilots really just shit or something?yes.in zeonic front one of the character says during jaburo's invasion that the federations pilots are all awful despite having superior ms.now i don't remember if zeonic front is canon but it make sense when you think about it.
>>22575874What's it killing? A GINN? Oh god, the only on-screen Windam kill is of the first MS in the SEED universe.
>>22583929>Leos get grazed by a vulcan>blows up>MC in a Leo>takes a beating that would have destroyed a UC gundam
>>22592524Good guy army handicap. >>22594379 is correct.How threatening GMs actually appear at any given point on screen seems to be tied to plot direction. Humorously, for example, in 08th MS Team the very last episode opens with a bunch of Gelgoogs absolutely eating shit but the machines presumably shooting them down are never actually shown on screen once, it's just the Gelgoogs exploding and beam fire coming at them and their Musai.
