Why do cis straights say they're LGBT?
>>35529538>trans people are so discriminated against and there's a totally real genocide going on against the- ACCK!!!!!!
>>35529554>somehow makes the post about tranniesrent free loser
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Facts
>>35529974why is intersex treated like a third thing? xxy male and x0 female are different things
>>35529538Hasn't the meme for decades been 'literally all women are bisexual some just don't know it yet'?Why are we mad now that it's turning out to be true?>>35529974Oh wow a poll on some unknown site with ten votes. This is indicative of culture at large surely>>35530003Noone knows shit about intersex lives people only bring it up when listing all the minorities they know exist to feel accomplished. No intersex person is assigned intersex at birth. We're all assigned as male or female. Most identify either as cis or trans and when we identify as trans it's not 'intersex to female'
>>35529538Why assume guy and girl rates of bisexuality are the naturally the same?
>>35529538Because we stopped gatekeeping what it meant to be lgbt. Now anyone that can larp as “ace” or “enby” can claim to be queer without having to actually do any queer shit while still getting queer victim points. At most its a fashion statement for a lot of them.
>>35530403Qyeer victim points aren't real why gatekeep them. I'd much rather avoid false negatives where someone's literally a homosexual and being excluded by other homosexuals for stupid bullshit then worry about false positives. Stolen valor isn't important in any situation other then privelege measuring contests.
>>35530454this reads like a person who's never lived in a liberal area with a large nb population. living in washington, lgbt friendly services are almost entirely marketed towards afab enbies who see gender as a quirky fun thing, every lgbt group is almost entirely afab enbies, and any talk about dysphoria around sex characteristics is shut down by "umm gender and sex are different sweetie :)" the ones pushing for "afab only" groups are also almost entirely afab nbsthis will happen to your lgbt community too, liberal cities in the pnw are canaries for what is to come socially
>>35530732This sounds like someone who's never had real problems... you're mad that queer discourse doesn't revolve around you? Man who gives a shit. None of this matters.
>>35529538because their parents are straight.
>>35530754it matters when you're looking a hair dresser who won't fuck your shit up cause gender is seen as a way to stand out, it matters when you go full horseshoe and groups are divided by agab again, it matters because the discourse is one step away from "transitioning is transphobic"
>>35530796These sound like slippery slope fallacies. Have you ever been personally denied housing by other queers? There are no shortage of hair dressers. Fucks who wanna give you shitty mullets are a minority. You are getting mad at annoying people you saw online and talking about it like a societal issue
It seems like being LGBT is a costume or a joke for straight zoomers, at the end they'll say "meh i'm not a faggot anymore, time to start a traditional family:)"
>>35529538its unironically just an ice breaker for awkward socially inept zoomies, its easier to fit in if you say zesty shit and makes you less creepy and more approachable/harmless.
>>35529538>Why do cis straights say they're LGBT?I fully and completely believe that 99% of humanity is bisexual to some degree. I don't think I've ever met a fully straight or gay person. Exclusive heterosexual and homosexual identities are socially enforced psyops.
>>35530854Slippery slope fallacies only apply if the two things aren't similar, like saying marrying men leads to marrying animals. This isn't the case here, because its related one, and transitioning being seen as transphobic is the end conclusion of "gender and sex are different, we need groups to be based off of sex>You are getting mad at annoying people you saw online and talking about it like a societal issueeverything i said are things i've experienced irl, i dont go out of my way to look for these opinions and people. people outside of the northwest heavily heavily underestimate the population of lgbt people here
>>35530454Im sorry I dont want fake fags speaking on behalf of us. I want people that are truly queer, with real lived experiences as a queer person to represent and speak for us. We let in too many larping bored white women they will (and have see >>35530732) started already talking over us and for us. We will lose rights because we lost what it meant to be gay and let cishet white women take the helm. We are losing rights because of them already.
>>35530927I'd say it's more that 99% of people are pansexual. I think pretty much 99% of men are attracted to femininity or at best andro/neutral femboys, and same for women with 99% being attracted to masculinity or at best andro/neutral twinks. I think if you scan the average brain of a normalfag girl/boy they'd feel genuine disgust at seeing two masculine guys kissing
>>35530970>I'd say it's more that 99% of people are pansexualI disagree> I think pretty much 99% of men are attracted to femininity or at best andro/neutral femboys, and same for women with 99% being attracted to masculinity or at best andro/neutral twinksThis isn't how I understand pansexuality at all. Pansexuality is an attraction to all gender and sexual presentations. A pansexual cisman would be attracted to masc individuals as well.I understand bisexuality as more of a spectrum :>0 -> exclusive straight, only attracted to women>1 -> women and femboys>2 -> women, femboys, and twinks(continued increase of masculine presentation)>n - 2 -> femboys, twinks, men>n - 1 -> twinks, men>n -> exclusive homosexuality, only attracted to men>I think if you scan the average brain of a normalfag girl/boy they'd feel genuine disgust at seeing two masculine guys kissingConditioned responses are still genuine responses.
>>35531344The idea of masc/feminine is subjective though, the way I view pansexuality is just being attracted to everyone no matter how they present as long as it makes your pussy wet or dick hard. I think on average cis male and cis female have specific biases from the environment growing up and socializing, but they can sometimes fall for someone despite them being the complete opposite from what they are usually attracted to. But I do see your point, it could be bisexuality as more accurate as well.
>>35529538We need a term for fake bisexual women
>>35530969The people taking our rights are not blue haired they/thems it's across the board republican trade who the blue haired they/thems also fight against and hate. Connecting 'le fake queers' to the dissolution of our rights is not grounded in reality.
>>35529538It's been this way for almost 2 decades at this point. Women like to appear progressive and, in the case of white women, distance themselves from being an oppressor, it's a twist on the white guilt. As soon as legbutts became more accepted in the early 2000s a buttload of cishet women labelled themselves as bisexual to appear more quirky, progressive, you name it. Then in the mid 2010s another flavour appeared, theyfabs. Needless to say, the overwhelming majority of them have no actual experience with being a legbutt, but they sure as hell like to talk over actual legbutts, you see "bisexual" women who only ever dated and had sex with men confidently talk on lesbian issues and whatnot. Theyfabs do the same with trans stuff.
I know a bitch who says being lesbian is a fashion style
>>35531360>I view pansexuality is just being attracted to everyone no matter how they present as long as it makes your pussy wet or dick hardThis is my understanding too which is why I still think bisexuality is a better description. Most people are not "gender blind", which is how I understand the distinction between bisexuality and pansexuality. Gender presentation is still a big factor in sexual attraction for pretty much all normies.
>>35530796>it matters when you go full horseshoe and groups are divided by agab againyou're the one who keeps saying "afab" you fucking cretin
>>35531488> 1488holy fucking digits of undeniable truth
>>35529538>pretendingOr, cis women are just more honest about it than cis men. Men who identify as straight often act like they'll get AIDS if a gay guy even looks at them. They are far more insecure and unwilling to budge on the idea of finding a man attractive. Meanwhile I feel like half the girls I know find women attractive or have fooled around with them. It's just not the same.
>>35529538most likely for attention/ feeling special and dramatic or simply because it's being promoted as something good by the establishment.+ i'm not sure if women even experience such thing as sexuality. so they don't really know what it is, get confused and then think they're bisexual.
>>35529538why doesn't it show boys identifying as bisexuals?
>>35529538Same reason why lefties make up brown ancestry or that theyre from palestine
>>3552953825% is probably pretty close to natural levels of bisexuality (probably even a bit higher)There is simply no longer a need for women to not admit to it, there is no social oppression there for them anymoreThere still is quite a bit for men so they won't admit it as readily and repress it more
>>35531488>you see "bisexual" women who only ever dated and had sex with men confidently talk on lesbian issues and whatnotBut anon, they kissed a girl in college while drunk so clearly they have significant LGBT experience.
>>35533311Well, I'm a bisexual guy and I only ever dated girls, but I still jerk off to gay porn. You know, you don't need to have sex to be of a certain sexuality
>>35533729Go back and return when you genuinely had a relationship with a cis non-feminine guy which is not fwb, one-night session and only call yourself that after, pretentious faggot.
good morning I hate women
>>35530403>>35530969The word "q*eer" is itself a symptom of that retardation, if you want to gatekeep undesirables avoid it like wildfire, shame anyone using it and use terms with more precise definitions
>>35533729>You know, you don't need to have sex to be of a certain sexualityAs a "straight" man who jerks off to (at least some) gay porn, I have complicated feelings about this matter.I think your point is "I am attracted to men therefore I am bisexual" which makes sense but the way I see it, until that attraction is tested in the soft supple anus of a lovely femboy, it's all fantasy. It's a spook. Reality often differs quite significantly from fantasy. Fantasies engage at most, a single sense, your visual perception. Reality is an overwhelming experiential qualia. It's trivially easy to build up a fantasy in your mind that does not reflect what will make you happy in reality. People do this every day.Go to a gar bar, have gay sex, report back your findings.
I see no problem. If they help us all with numbers, I count them in.
