>80k combatans>6 million deathsHow does Africa pull stuff like this off?
>>16549582African population stats are completely fake. So are their genocide numbers.
>>16549595Yup. They're triple the amount listed because Africans are too low IQ to know how to do population censuses.
>>16549582genocide. the rwandan genocide was used by the tutsis and paul kagame to justify killing millions of hutus. the fuckers are still doing it today with m23. if you want to learn more, go to mtwright on yt and watch his vid about it.
>>16549602>They're triple the amount listedI seriously doubt that.>>16549582Most deaths in most wars are civilian deaths
>>16549612this is a pro kagame board.
>>16549623Why not? All Africans do is just have babies and leech off of Western gibs
GEE, I dunno, Maybe that's what happens when you infiltrate a traditional society and start sucking up all their resources and fucking up all their politics and selling them arms and forcing them into western style cities and passing out AKs? I dont't think this level of carnage happend before Europeans arrived, did it?Hmmm
>>16549640It really was fucked up of the soviets to hand out all those guns to the simbas. BAKA, communism really is rough on the African.
>>16549631>leech off of Western gibsAid has been slashed for years and fertility rates have been dropping.
>>16549640>I dont't think this level of carnage happend before Europeans arrived, did it?niggers didn't even exist before europeans
>>16549647The Simba weren't that well armed actually
tutsi liars in this thread
>>16549652Did you forget your meds?
>>16549661niggers still can't figure out agriculture
>>16549665And you base that off net food importing stats? Where do you think cocoa beans come from?
>>165496764 billion people will import all the food that they eat lmfao stupid faggot is worried about cocoa beans
>>16549628kagame is a fucking dictator. the lowest level of votes in a presidential election he run in was 93%. you really think that was legitimate? sheep, i tell you. look up diane rwigara. look up noel zihabamwe and his brothers. come back to me and tell me that again.
>>16549695>4 billion people will import all the food that they eatDo you think Japan or China are net food exporters lmao? >>16549695
>>16549699PRO. KAGAME. BOARD.
>>16549690>The man who accuses the Africans of recording no history has not bothered to learn any of the history recorded.Being ignorant is one thing, being proud of your willful ignorance is another. Admit you know almost nothing about the African continent, and then ask why you are here if that is the case, because I assure you it is not to inform anyone of anything since you have no information than>lol niggers tee hee
>>16549655kagame apologists detectedopinion invalided immediately
>>16549699he's literally africa's own universal spider, how could you dislike him?
>The Human Security Report Project (HSRP) of Simon Fraser University has challenged the toll of 5.4 million war-related deaths between 1998 and 2008. It states that of the IRC's five periodic estimates, two that cover a period from 1998 to 2001 are flawed, and the reported 2.6 million deaths therein should not be included in the total death toll. The other three periodic IRC estimates cover a period from May 2001 – April 2007, and in which 2.83 million of the total 5.4 million deaths were reported. The HSRP argued that the estimates were built on a general death rate that was far too low for Congo, and that most of those people would have most likely died anyway. Thus, the IRC figure should be revised to 860,000 total war-related excess deaths.[106][107]
>>16549717see, i dislike him because everyone thinks he’s great. they couldn’t be more wrong. rwandans abroad are forced to make an oath to the country punishable by hanging if broken or refused. relatives of political opponents have been taken off buses and ‘disappeared’. a critic of him tried to run in an election. nude photos of her leaked within 72 hours. when that didn’t faze her, she was jailed.you cannot tell me, deadass, that he isn’t an authoritarian jackass.
>>16549705yea my badshould've said niggers instead of peopleno matter how many trillions you shill out for niggers, it doesn't matter if you gave them your language, your genes and your church, you will be stomped out by the end of the centuryand good fucking riddance subhuman faggot
>>16549742It's not a liberal arts college campus its Africa and they tried to wipe his people out. Eggs WILL be broken.
the rpf has a fucking ‘commercial’ wing. the reason rwanda’s cpi is so low is because it’s so formalised it’s essentially seen as normal. you want a democratic african nation with a good economy, and actual human rights? go to botswana bitch.
>>16549751oh, please. the tutsis were a privileged minority. not saying the genocide was justified, never would. but understandable why the hutus, the discontented majority, would kill a privileged minority right after the president, who hated tutsis and gave power to hutus, died in what can only be described as suspicious circumstances.
>>16549770>im so woke i will write half hearted apologias for genocide if the western press isn't free to destabilize the fragile equilibrium that characterizes all early nation building projectsshiggy
>>16549784i’m no apologist. the rwanda genocide was horrible. the hutu leaders who stoked the hatred fully deserved what they got, but not the refugees. never the refugees.
>>16549751you want a based and vengeancepilled african who didn’t commit genocide? go for jonas savimbi.
>>16549751>they tried to wipe his people outHe killed Rutsi's too retard. He's also backing a fucking military group and outright intruding inyo Congo.
>>16549816finally, someone who isn’t a kagame sheep.
>>16549747>no matter how many trillions you shill out for niggersNot even close lol.>it doesn't matter if you gave them your language, your genes and your church, you will be stomped out by the end of the centuryand good fucking riddance subhuman faggotWhy does /his/ have so many mentally posters here? >you will be stomped out by the end of the centuryBy who? Santa Claus?
>>16549751and those weren’t even hutus you idiot.
>>16549825guess who's building everything in there to sustain the population? it's china debt trapping themit's exactly like selling fent to niggers in US so that it's the top cause of death in 18-36 populationthat they're propping up niggers to flood EUgoing back to the original question, yes they reach a certain threshold of wealth, they turn into the most demonic force in history, it doesn't happen if they're constantly looking for foodfigure out the reason why it happens
>>16549842You need meds and/or Jesus lmao.
>>165496521 AD is before the bantu expansion, not just before Europeans; hunter-gatherers don't support high population densities anywhere on EarthA map from the eve of when the Portuguese crossed Cape Bojador would look very different
>>16549652>Premodern demography is fundamentally an educated guess, please do not take this data as authoritative
>>1654986496% of population was non subsaharan in 500AD93% of the world was non subsaharan in 1950
>>16549878>93% of the world was non subsaharan in 195015% were African based off 1950 estimates of the global and African continent populations.>>16549880So what do you get out of embarrassing yourself in every thread you go to like a mini Ian Miles Cheong exactly
>>16549893177 subsaharans out of 2.5 billion people
>>16549853What did he say that was wrong?
>>16549594The Europigs you worship happily slaughtered each other in the millions in destructive wars every few years. African precolonial warfare between fellow Black tribes were much less violent, and were commonly solved with a negotiated settlement.
>>16549908and that's why white people will not survive the end of this centurythey'll be forced to live like jews live nowtrying to civilize niggers is the biggest sin against humanity in history and they nede to be raped to death for it
>>16549912>they'll be forced to live like jews live nowJews are privileged though mostly.>trying to civilize niggers is the biggest sin against humanity in historytrying lmao. They treated westernized Africans like dogshit lol.
>>16549899You gonna Bash an old man's head in yet?
>>16549816You realize the majority of M23 are literally the army doing it on the weekend and then going back to hunt THEMSELVES during the days they're on shift right?
>>16549880Ah, back from Wikipedia already? WE GOT AN EXPERT IN THE HOUSE BOYS
>>16549917>They treated westernized Africans like dogshit lol.arabs castrated every nigger that they imported and they don't have this problem even if they're 20% nigger by fucking coon pussyThat's what anybody other than fucking deranged ytbois would've done but no, faggots killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers, they fucking bred niggers in eugenics to make the most destructive force in history and formed their identity around itgod I want israel to just nuke everything when west becomes islamized enough to turn on them
>>16549896So around 8% of the world was African in 1950 and Europe was around 550 million so around 22% tops. Both getting swamped by Asia as a majority of the 2.5 billion in 1950.
>>16549954and? world was stableasia produces the food so people live therewhat's hard to comprehend? nobody will ever move out of there cause of basic food shortage
>>16549941>arabs castrated every nigger that they importedThey didn't actually. Castrated slaves only had use as harem guards as they also used castrated slaves from every group they got slaves from. >they don't have this problem even if they're 20% nigger by fucking coon pussyAnd by freed slaves marrying into the population or migrating elsewhere/back.
>>16549962>and? world was stableCold war, threat of nuclear annihilation, actually crazy shit going down like Italy's years of lead, crackdown of protests in the Iron Curtain, Korean+Vietnam War.>asia produces the food so people live thereA fucjton if theur states need imports to match their grieving demand. That's why their net imports are so big. Most of Japan's meat is imported.>nobody will ever move out of there cause of basic food shortageThey'll move out fir the countless other reasons. Just like how Euros moved out for countless other reasons alongside escaping poverty.
>>16549973>Cold war, threat of nuclear annihilation, actually crazy shit going down like Italy's years of lead, crackdown of protests in the Iron Curtain, Korean+Vietnam War.world was fucking stable for 4000 yearsyour little vietnam chink chong war will not be remembered in 50 years>>16549973look at the gibs map >>16549747japan does not have 40% of the whole world's population and it has people not niggers, who produce useful things
>>16549582Congo is a massive fuckup
>>16550009>japan does not have 40% of the whole world'sIt has one of the highest populated states in the world in a tiny mountainous island. It's economy is currently undergoing a several decade long stagnation period and a lot of their companies are currently failing to size up to the competition lol>your little vietnam chink chong war will not be remembered in 50 yearsAmericans seethed about it for 50+ years and still have MIA-POW theatrics.
>>16550351Japan has 1.5% of the world's populationit used to have almost the same GDP as USidk what you're even trying to say, yes we can subsidize food for a small population of hyper productive inventive peoplenone of this is relevant to subsaharans
>>16550379>yes we can subsidize food for a small population of hyper productive inventive peopleThat sounds like you are coping hard for a lot of East Asian and SEA states anon. Also "hyper oroductive" lol did you time travel from the 80s?
>>16550392japan is the only place which still makes video games in 2024, let me know if anybody else is doing anything worthwhile all this AI bullshit was just a computational bottleneck problemSEA Monkeys don't need food, they're way older than niggers and have excess food according to the gibs map
>>16550400>japan is the only place which still makes video games in 2024Retard.>SEA Monkeys don't need food, they're way older than niggers and have excess food according to the gibs mapThey import a lot of their food lol. Several states still get aid too.
>>16549640>I dont't think this level of carnage happend before Europeans arrived, did it?Simply not enough people for this to even happen. People forget until the late 19th century, Africa was the least densely populated continent, hence why it's mega fauna thrived while the rest of the world's died off.
>>16549747norwayCHADSAlso does anyone else find it kinda weird that so much of the world's food comes from south america and india?
warhammer 40k tier mass slaughtering civilians
>>16550562>it's mega fauna thrived while the rest of the world's died off.How did India's survive then?
>>16550601>Also does anyone else find it kinda weird that so much of the world's food comes from south america and india?Nah, those have always been agriculture-based countries. Norway is far more surprising.
Wheneve you see casualties like this the only two answers are always>industrial warfare (pretty rare honestly) like WW2>wars that directly involve civilians and attack and disrupt food supplies. Pretty rare for modern industrial countries. Common for third world shitholes and wars prior to the modern age especially outside of Europe It’s why you can look at so many wars in China and see death tolls in the tens of millions from hundreds of years agoYes, they had peasants pressed into service and a much higher population than anywhere else on the planet. But more importantly whenever they had their wars and civil wars, their primary food supplies in the rice fields were destroyed, seized or sabotaged to starve the enemyThis kind of thing isn’t nearly as common in Europe because wars were a lot more limited, and the goal was not typically to kill the peasants. You’d want them to work the land if you took itLikewise Japan, while having the same staple crop. Conducted much more limited warfare based around a small class of warriors fighting to decide things. Butchering villagers and farmers was not the standard (still happened, just not nearly as common).
>>16549721>Thus, the IRC figure should be revised to 860,000 total war-related excess deaths.Mostly from starvation I imagine (and most famine deaths are really caused by disease due to weakened immune systems).
>>16549699>Noooooooo! What do you mean people like their leader. They're supposed to be detested, hated and change into the exactly same person but from different party every few years!!!Besides even if he faked his elections he would still be great leader.
>>16549582All numbers are cooked, and Africa moreso. I tell people this. I went to the three largest settlements in DRC and the population was exaggerated by up to 20x.
>>16551705The DRC has a population around 104 million people, 20x times less would be 5 million.
>>16549640>I dont't think this level of carnage happend before Europeans arrived, did it?In raw numbers? No, since their primitive neolithic huts society couldn't sustain a population that large.But per capita? It was even worse during their never-ending tribal wars.
>>16551590>But more importantly whenever they had their wars and civil wars, their primary food supplies in the rice fields were destroyed, seized or sabotaged to starve the enemy>This kind of thing isn’t nearly as common in Europe because wars were a lot more limited, and the goal was not typically to kill the peasants. You’d want them to work the land if you took itThis is also why Napoleon was caught off guard when the mentally ill Russian Tsar destroyed his own countryside (starving a million Russian civilians to death) in a war Russia fought to avoid having to abid by a trade agreement
>>16552438Traditional Africa was far more advanced in every possible sense than modern Europe. Someday you will understand, probably after you die. Hint: you are optimizing the wrong variables
>>16552453>Someday you will understand, probably after you die.The afterlife is a flying pyramid ran by black kangz?
>>16552475More, bigger, faster means nothingWestern industrial production makes bullshit plastic garbage. Food is poison now, open heart surgeries fix that for the rich. Hooray western healthcare. Are you poor and sick? No, you may not see the shaman. Battle it out man to man? No, infiltrate with CIA and drop 2000 pound bombs from 30,000 feet before returning to the USS Nimitz to listen to rock and roll and watch tranny porn while high fiving your bros. SO BRAVE. Is mama sick? Is daddy dying? Put them away, away, in a memory facility, so I can forget they exist, thanks. I am counting my inheretance money already. Another teenager went on a shooting rampageAnother teenager amputated their genitalsAnother teenager sat k-10 and never learned how to do multiplication, but who needs that in prison anyway? 50,000 a year for college50,000 a year for prisonFor profit prisonDig up half of west texas for dinosaur fumes to power H2s and F-350s driven by 80 year olds. Have democracy so we can run elections between candidates nobody asked for. Freedom baby.Let the leaders fuck kids behind closed doors. It's wrong but we're all going down so who cars.Nobody can change anything anyways. The West is the majestic triumph of man
>>16549652"Niggers" existed way before a single human even stepped foot in Europe and I assure you they will exist for plenty of years after Europeans get done killing each other.
>>16549751Tutsis enacted several massacres against the hutu majority way before any rwandan genocide. Tutsis massacred educated middle class hutus because they were afraid of being usurped by them. If anything, the genocide was self-defense.
>>16552503Yeah, even with all European scientific and technological achievements, life still isnt perfect.Does that mean that living half naked in a primitive hut with a 70% child mortality rate and constant tribal wars is better? Nope.And even negroes understand that, hence why they didnt return to their old ways after wypipo left.
>>16552592I would take hut life over modern life in an instant, with no hesitation. I believe the things I am telling you, there is no hyperbole. The west makes a mockery of the human spirit.
>>16552560Do you think that's how it works? Leaders are supposed to weigh up the rightness of their group existing and then take measures accordingly based on an objective formula of justice. In AFRICA? Really? In CENTRAL AFRICA? Once again, Africa, not a liberal arts college classroom discussing Israel vs Palestine, Africa. Whatever the history, which I disagree with you on, but whatever the history, he is a member of a vastly outnumbered minority ethnic group and doesn't have the USA backed guarantee of protection. It's a common thing with leftychud twitter users not to understand this position, of being an isolated minority with few options like Tutsis or Alawites or to a lesser extent given their capabilities and backing Israeli Jews.
>>16552544Nope. Negroes are devolved Khoisan people.
>>16552614no africa has always been home to multiple lineages.
>>16549652Redpill me on that Indonesian island. Why was the pop. Density so high?
>>16552453>>16552503>>16552601Based posts. Modernity is a disaster, long live African tradition, long live the hut.
>>16549699we like him because he fakes his elections.
>>16552560Bro no, go read the actual UN cases. They acknowledged the fact that the RPF posed a legitimate threat to the Rwandan Government, but still found most of the actions to be strictly genocidal in intent with no military benefit. And multiple ceasefires had been hammered out prior to Habyarinama's death, each one broken mutually because Habyarinama had lost the power to tardwrangle the Hutu Power militias and because Kagame is a metal gear villain.
>>16549770>Hutus, the discontented majority,...That had recieved preferable treatment since Kayibanda while the Tutsis were pounding sand in Uganda.
>>16549816Habyarinama's big mistake was not killing culling his opposition, as a result, he got caught on the Hutu Power wild ride, going from a fairly balanced policy to Kayibanda but somehow worse. The inability to absolutely control external threats resulted in Kagame's own RPF, necessitating the existence of emergency measures like civilian militias (that would later serve as the tools of the genocide), inability to control internal threats led to a situation where a comprhensive ceasefire was simply impossible, as Habyarinama could not control anything beyond his own capital, and the forced "democratization" dramatically empowered the hard pro-Hutu wing in government in Habyarinama's final years. Rwanda is not a country where the leader should be weak and open to comrpomise, it is a country which saw what happened when a Central African leader doesn't keep their neighbors underfoot, their local leadership underfoot, and democracy underfoot.
>>16551560Mauritania is the most surprising by far.
>>16552839but I think that's a mistake, Mauritania doesn't seem to be a food exporter at all quite the oppisite
>>16549802'Refugees' fleeing punishment for killing their neighbors with machetes, and in exile formed an army to try and re-invade Rwanda to finish the genocide
>>16550892By being a lot smaller and more domesticable than African wildlife. Indian elephants are runty compared to their African cousins, and other large mammals are also domesticated. The lone exception is the tiger, which the Indians live in fear of to this day, even with its numbers much reduced. Africa, meanwhile, has a list of a dozen or more giant animals that are not only undomesticable but are dangerous to even be around.
>>16552992Yeah. Paul Kagame himself is literally a living example of why you shouldn't tolerate a group of refugees filled to the brim with militants directly on your border.
Why can't people just get along and be happy? People always have to be killing each other over earthly shit. No wonder Jesus isn't coming back.
>>16552992Most "refugees" today are also just scum fleeing war crimes, especially Syrian muslims.
>>16549602I read somewhere that it's like in America with their counties and voting systems like the bigger the population the more political representation so everyone is motivated to inflate their local population stats
>>16553129Because you have stuff I want and I can kill you and take it. Why shouldn't I do it?
>>16553129It was an inevitability. Everyone was more than happy to create the conditions which would lead to the Rwandan Genocide, they just weren't expecting the RPF and Kagame to be so fucking good at their jobs.
>>16553214But Anon I don't like having stuff. Why do we have to kill each other for these material things? Philosopher Klaus Schwab said we should not be in possession of things cause it will take away our inner peace and make us unhappy.
>>16549628kagame doesnt exist, tutsi liar
>>16553276TRVTH NVKE
>>16549707VGH KAGAME'S GROSSERWVNDIVM
>>16553009>Indian elephants are runty compared to their African cousinsAnd still super dangerous.>other large mammals are also domesticatedAnd the wild ones ate still dangerous. You do know India also has other big cats and bears too?>>16552908It's not. You can be a food exporter and still gave food pricing issues. A lot if tge red and orange states in the global south actually do export a ton if crops. The issue is that lack of foreign currency, inflation and other issues make it so that even with a profit affording middle class food eats up a lot of the household budget.
>>16553135Most "refugees" in the West are brownoids fleeing their civilizational inferiority.Mot come from countries not even at war.Inferior culture means inferior quality of life, and modern media means they get to see wypipo and their superior quality of life from afar.So of course they want to come, but then bring their inferior cultures and religions with them and slowly re-create the hell they fled.
>>16552609And killing other people and basically funding the Cemtral African equivalent of Mexican cartels in the DRC is okay? This shit will bite him in the ass and fuck over everyone in a shortsighted bid to hold power accumulate wealth to show off in little development charts. It's all gonna burst, just like Idi Amin in Uganda, the NP and RF party in Southern Africa, Mobutu Sese Seko in Zaire, Siad Barre on Somalia.
>>16553371Two more weeks until Kagame falls.
>>16549699Kagame Is the best statesman on earth, you have no idea. If all African states had such a ruler the continent would become more developed than most of South America in a generation's time. Attacking bloody hutu interahamwe génocidaires sheltered bu RDC is absolutely morally legitimate.
>>16553305How is such a small state like Rwanda able to destabilize Congo so effectively?
>>16555343neither of those are states
>>16549582They count "excess deaths" as in "the country got shittier so more people presumably died of the shittier living conditions and diseases in that period than we expected", not actual violent deaths. The violent deaths are 300-350k, including the pygmy genocide.
>>16555343Because the tutsi have a general unity of purpose and drive while the DRC is a disjointed and decentralized joke of a country.>>16549699Kagame is literally and unironically the best ruler in the entire history of sub-saharan Africa.What kind of retard do you have to be to shill against him.
