Just get a potato, no new games worth playing edition

>>100195610
>turn on pc
>it flies away and blinds pilots in a 2km radius
>Feds arrive and shoot you full of holes

I ordered arctic liquid freezer iii 420 (DUDE!)...
If it leaks... will it fuck up my GPU and board? Please say no... (I never used liquid cooling before)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yA

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>>100195662
>VA panels mogged again
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/research/vrr-flicker

>>100195648
a) it won't leak. AIOs are extremely reliable in this respect
b) even if it does, it probably won't fuck up your shit. people always joke about it, but the stuff inside is not plain water, its not conductive. ofc, that doesn't mean it can't harm your shit another way, but assuming you realize its leaking, shut the system off and clean it within a reasonable timeframe, you'll be fine.

>>100195648
Conductive liquid on the aforementioned components bode poorly for their continued functionality, but it is unlikely to occur.

someone should really make a copypasta for how unreliable and shitty aio's are

>>100195757
Does it mean I have to babysit my PC? I often leave it running while not at home for torrents and stuff.

I need a budget pc for mainly playing cs2 and siege. Do you guys think this will be fine?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VfnnVW
(I have case and storage already)

>>100195792
If you're that fucking paranoid about it just get an air cooler

>>100195792
>Does it mean I have to babysit my PC?
no.
like i said, realistically, you don't have to worry about leaks.
but assuming a leak does occur, its most likely to happen immediately after you install it, either because the unit was seriously defective oob or because you brutally manhandled it during install. if it doesn't leak when you first power it on, it probably won't leak ever.

>>100195796
Sure it'll run fine but that memory is kinda cringe ngl

>>100195796
You need to use two sticks of memory to make the most out of the DDR platform, especially if you're targetting high fps.
You're going to lose at least 30% of system performance using a single memory module.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Gk88TW/adata-xpg-lancer-blade-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ax5u6000c3016g-dtlabbk

>>100195796
Follow RAM instructions in OP. PSU could be better ie
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dbCZxr/msi-mag-a750gl-pcie5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a750gl-pcie5

>>100195796
>>100195863
Radeon RX 7700 XT for 399 quid would be better value too.

>>100195809
But AMD told me I need liquid cooling solution.
>>100195823
If liquid is non conductive, I guess it should be fine. I thought it's water.

>>100195894
One of the dual towers from the OP is more than fine for X3D CPU's

>>100195898
It's too late. Also, I assume they are louder.

>>100195918
Most anons here can return goods within 30 days for free.

>>100195796
that's more than good enough. you could build a pc at half the price that'd be good enough honestly

>>100195918
Enjoy the pump noise
https://youtu.be/zfffNRTOZCc?t=769

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>>100195662
IPS chads keep winning

>>100195958
Too much hassle.
>>100195970
I saw that video and it's the reason why I'm getting it. Sounds comfier than fans spinning.

>>100195829
>>100195856
>>100195863
>>100195885
Thanks I've made some adjustments but it's looking a lot less budget now.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y76X7R

>>100195962
I'm not too knowledgeable of pc specs but I like the sound of that. Cheaper the better in my situation

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>As demonstrated in our DirectX 12 game test, substantial flicker occurs when there's a wide variation in frame times. This variation is a key culprit behind VRR flicker, so one effective solution for all VRR-related flickering is to maintain as consistent a frame rate as possible.

>An alternative, though more expensive, solution would be to upgrade your PC components to minimize frame drops during loading.

>Each of these solutions offers a way to tackle the flicker problem without giving up on the stunning visual benefits of OLED technology.

3 or 4 memory sticks for AMD CPU?

>>100196123
3 and a half

>>100196062
This is solid. It is what it is with the inflation these days.

>>100195662
>they fell for the oled meme

>>100196131
You mean 3 sticks with 8 gibibytes and 1 with 4 gibibytes?

Should I match # of threads CPU has with amount of RAM and vRAM memory? Is this optimal?

4060 Ti 8GB for 340€ on sale

Yes or no?
I only play FullHD

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>>100196062
R6 and CS2 run just fine on potato systems
If budget is really important you could even drop to like a 12400F and whatever the cheapest gpu here that meets your minimum fps you want
Its just gonna come down to how """future proof""" you want it to b e

>>100196168
at the minimum you should have 12 threads and 12gb of ram.

>>100196148
no

>>100196168
is this a thing now?

>>100196254
1 thread 1 ram gb 1 vram gb
Makes sense.

>>100196301
>he doesn't have 1 monitor per thread
>in 20 fucking 24

Should I hold off on the gpu upgrade, because I heard that the new GPUs are coming later this year.

>>100196062
Basically ryzen 5600 with boxed cooler, cheapest b450 card, and ddr4 2x8 gb 3600 mhz would be my go to budget build. GPU is fine, but you could probably buy a cheaper PSU too.

>>100196315
early next year for anything less than a 4090 replacement

>>100196190
That’s ridiculously cheap isn’t it? My brother bought at 4060 at the same price.

>>100196190
>assuming fullHD means 1080p
It's shit but it's priced how you expect it to perform.
If you want a downgrade (1080p 120+ fps is easy to get for 99% of AAA games), a 6650 XT is fine for almost everything (but it's best paired with a cheap CPU like 2600 or 5500 or intel 12-14th gen i3 / i5).
3060 is the cheapest option for nvidia.
If you don't mind the used market, you could get a 1660 super / ti or 2060.
AMD has downsides (little AI, VR, raytracing support), and DLSS is cool but it's more noticable for 1440p+ (you can still use a 6650 XT or 3060 for 1440p for 120+ fps, just lower settings, or upscale like DLSS/FSR).
4070 is for future proofing 5+ years (+ monitor resolution upgrade).
If your monitor is 60fps, get a new monitor asap (like koorui 24e4 or for a better stand AOC 24g2sp or whatever IPS 1080p high refresh monitor you find for ~$200, they all have the same panel).
You could also wait for 50 series for a year, but I don't think you will save money, but the GPU might support newer shit I guess?

>>100196315
Nvidia will announce 5090 and 5080 on computex AMD has something special too.
Wait for compootex at least

>>100196211
Future proofing is stupid and not worth the money you spend on it, it’s ridiculously expensive.
Just buy the stuff that give you the most bang for your bucks and make a new build next time. I usually switch between buying the GPU and the rest of the system really.

I bought a mobo with PCIE 5.0
What does it mean? Will my GPU run faster?

>Excessive fans
Gay as fuck

>>100196397
its 1 higher than pcie 4

>>100196315
Are you buying nvidia or AMD? Gonna be like a year for AMD

>>100196397
>>100196426
For context, I have radeon vii with HBM
I already asked chatGPT about it, but want to hear from real humans if it will do anything performance wise (gaming and running llm, image generation).

>>100196593
now I'm curious what chatgpt told you

>>100196624
I think it halucinated.

Not unless your GPU, the Radeon VII, is PCIe 5.0 compliant which it isn't
So no, it will run in the slot because it's backwards compatible with whatever generation PCIe your card is, but it will NOT make it run faster

>>100196655
I knew it. Fuck chatgpt

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Is the power supply enough? I don't think the page even calculates the case's fans...

>>100196720
I think you need a 850 w psu with two graphics card power cables for that psu.
I almost bought one for my brother until I realized his psu wasn’t good enough.

>>100196748
And also the card is massive, remember to check if the case is big enough.

>>100195880
>>100195817
>>100195941
What are you talking about viruses just go to >>>/g/ptg and get on ggn you will never get a virus.

>>100196720
Arctic P12 uses ~1W per fan.
But i would still sell your old PSU and get a new one.

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>>100196778
>about the same size as this 4080
>can barely fit in the case
Jesus... you weren't joking around

>>100196397
Currently, PCIE3 only limits very powerful cards like the 4090 (gamers nexus has a video on it). Pcie4 has enough bandwidth that even the 5090 isnt going to approach its limit. By the time cards are strong enough to approach pcie5 limits, pcie 6 will be out.

>>100197037
>pcie 6 will be out
Fuck... you mean I should have waited for pcie 6.0?

>>100197081
It means that the b450 cards would be good enough for 4090s even
Future proofing is a meme meant to make you waste money

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>>100195610
so my 7900 xtx is stuck at running at gen 4 8x rather than gen 4 16x because my motherboard, asus z790-e gaming wifi splits the gen 5 16x into two gen 5 8x lanes when the first m2 slot that is fed from the cpu is occupied. with anything. i have a gen 4 nvme in it.
will running at gen 4 8x bottleneck my 7900 xtx?

>>100197199
not really

>>100197255
how much of a decrease do you think it is? the only reason why i don't move it to one of the other slots is because i have all five m2 nvme slots occupied.

>>100197199
Gen 5 x8 is as fast as gen 4 x16. So you're fine

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I want to build a PC so much but I know the 9800x3d is close and I'll kick myself if I end up buying the 7800x3d right now

>>100197286
si, but the 7900 xtx is gen 4 16x. so its getting split down to gen 4 8x. if it was gen 5, i wouldn't be worrying.

So... are you not supposed to keep your PC on the ground?

>>100197271
https://youtu.be/YXYLO60TMag
This snoyboy tested 4090 on all the gens down. See for yourself

>>100197271
Basically none at all
Almost every single PCIe card is designed to be peformant with the generation that preceeded it and thus will be performant with the current gen at half the lanes.

>>100197306
Ah shit, I didn't think about it this way.

>>100197310
wow ok so if a 4090 doesn't get bottlenecked by gen 3 16x bandwidth i doubt my 7900 xtx is then.

>>100197199
You own a 7900XTX, that was your first mistake.

>>100197384
Yeah, you're fine.

>building a new PC
>placed all my orders awhile ago
>got everything at reasonable times
>motherboard was out of stock but would still be shipped in 2 week
>can't even start my build until I the motherboard arrives
>only 3 more days left until shipped.
I'm usually patient and don't usually care how long my shit gets to me so long as it gets here but the wait has been killing me. How does /g/ pass the time?

>>100197293
Let's be real, both of those CPUs are overkill for the next 4-5 years.
It's not a bad idea to build a 7800X3D PC if you find a good deal like the Microcenter bundle, because the 9800X3D's coming out next year and it will cost nearly $500.

>>100197546
Buying is the most fun, actually putting it together is a chore.
I bought parts half a year ago and still haven’t put together my new rig. It always ends up like this.

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New install.
Requesting
>Best software for fan control
>Best way to test hardware (SSD, CPU & GPU)
>Input on audio output
Specifically: I have a 5.1 system (3 * 3.5mm 3-pole audio jacks) but the machine only has 3 audio ports
>1 for stereo output
>2 more for microphone/? input/output
I presumed Windows would be able to auto detect or at least be configurable for such a common setup but I'm not seeing how.

>>100197635
That's absurd...
You sound like a mess m8. Build your fucking PC.

>>100197546
>all my components come in
>case is last to arrive
>it looks like it was smashed with a sledgehammer

>>100197558
I like the buy cheap, buy twice mentality. But then again I’m a materialist and like owning stuff.
I’d rather buy a cheap build now and then a new cheap build in two years for $1000 total than an expensive build now for $1000. The second cheap one you buy will be similar or better than the expensive one, and you’ll have spare parts or be able to give away the old one.
You have to like building pcs though I guess.

>>100197635
The installing all the drivers, software, and updates sounds worst part to be honest.

>>100197644
>Best software for fan control
none, use bios
>Best way to test hardware (SSD, CPU & GPU)
occt
>Input on audio output
spdif

>>100196720
13600+2080ti crashed my 650w on helldiver's. I know Intel is a power guzzler so maybe you can get by but PSUs come with generous warranties so you should take advantage of that and get something better

Is €675 normal price for 7950x3d?

>>100197654
Buying is dopamine and instant gratification. Building is discipline and a chore. Not to mention eventual troubleshooting and installing.
Worst part is that most of the time I just use a four year old $200 hp laptop for every thing I do with an i3 cpu and 8 gb ram. And it’s more than enough for my use.
Can’t play games though, gonna have to make my build with a 12700f, 3060 12 gb, and 16 gb 6000 mhz ddr5 ram for that.
A little improvement to say the least. But my main point of buying it was fooling around with AI, and I somewhat list interest.

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>>100197663
>cooler arrived one day this week
>right after the delivery 2 more mail track plus a white van lined up parked outside my home exchanging packages with each other
Should I be worried?

PC crashing, sometimes BSOD or sometimes black screen then restarts. Never any stopcode given. Tested different RAM, SSD, GPU, none fixed. Clean installed multiple OS installs. Sometimes (somewhat rarely) hitting the power button does absolutely nothing for a while.
Time for new PSU? Don't have another to test with.

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The beginning of the end for Radeon

>>100197735
You're just justifying your pathetic situation.
You have no motivation, probably because you grew up without a father to install discipline in you & you also (as a consequence) probably also have no girlfriend to drive you. I feel sorry for you and the best I can do for you is to tell you to build your fucking PC. NOW.

>>100197663
>This is why I buy pre-builds dot jaypeg.

>>100197685
Honestly it’s not that bad anymore. Both windows 10 and 11 are good at finding drivers, so usually I just update bios, let windows find drivers, and install those drivers windows don’t find. With a clean windows install with the newest iso and updates an install with updates go rather fast honestly.
I’ve built so many computers over the years that I more or less know everything around it. I think it’s easier now than with windows 7, where I had to include usb3 and nvme drivers. Installing windows 7 on newer machines was a chore honestly. Windows 10 and 11 install are simple.

>>100197700
It's worth whatever you're willing and able to pay for it.

>>100197663
>order all the pc parts
>they move them to a store next to me
>pay for all the parts together
comfy

>>100197742
Depends if any non whites were involved.

>>100197751
MSI made amd cards??

>>100197791
Most if my parts are delivered to post storages I can use an app to open, so I can get my packages when I want without talking to anyone. Honestly it’s a blessing. Today I had to go to the post office for a package and had to talk to people. Just terrible.

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>>100197688
>spdif
That's not an option. My system is analogue.

>>100197751
I really hope AMD doesn’t leave the graphics card market and let nvidia have monopoly. The decade with intel having monopoly until ryzen arrived was terrible. Though if AMD choose to rather work on their APUs and make decent ones that can be use for low to middle class gaming, it’d ge sweet. The 8700g is getting pretty good but expensive.

>>100197821
People are so stupid.

>>100197870
Of course they won't.

>>100197870
AMD probably is content being "Nvidia with half the features but $100 cheaper" in the DIY market and they'll just pour R&D into APUs because it supports their CPU business which is where AMD actually makes their money
Console business is probably just a cash flow venture for them piggybacking on their APU R&D, get those revenue numbers up but possibly not a huge contributor to actual profits given the slim margins through console hardware

>>100197775
>I think it’s easier now than with windows 7
Yeah I remember downgrading a gifted laptop that came with 10 to 7 several years ago and that shit was painful. How bad it is for setting up Linux on a new build?

>>100197819
they just slapped nvidia coolers on amd cards. they were the worst aib.

>>100197870
if you read the news, it says several chinese amd makers were bullied out of the market because of powercolor/sapphire. msi is one of them.

>>100198053
power color is also chinese

>>100197966
I’m just familiar with ubuntu, but it’s usually just installing it and it’s done. Biggest issue is usually that newer parts don’t have drivers, but on older pcs it’s usually not a problem.
Haven’t used linux in years though, but I’ll probably try mint next time.

>>100198102
They're Taiwan.
>TUL Corporation
>Technology Un-Limited
>Taiwan Un-Limited

>>100198053
Remember HIS?

>>100198102
>Taiwan bullying China
Based.

>>100198053
They were bullied out of the market by low margins and even lower volumes, retard

>>100198053
>were bullied out of the market because of powercolor/sapphire. msi is one of them
Not surprising
MSI cheaps the fuck out on everything.
I'm still to this day baffled they made a laptop cooler that doesn't fully cover the CPU die. Really shows their commitment to quality

>>100198460
Yet Shapphire and powercolor are doing great. Surly there has to be a reason

>>100198485
>lesser known aibs can't survive on radeon alone
Powercolor me surprised

>>100198522
The fuck are you saying?
Powercolor/Sapphire are literally pushing out a bigger AIB

>>100198254
TSMC is the king of fabs. Anyone close to them got the home advantage.

>>100198555
Can't follow a simple reply chain?


>several chinese amd makers were bullied out of the market because of powercolor/sapphire. >>100198053
>They were bullied out of the market by low margins and even lower volumes, retard >>100198460

Anyway anon's basic assertion is wrong, in that new reports didn't say anything about Sapphire and PowerColor bullying anyone out of the market. The news reports said it's hard to make a profit on Radeon cards because of low volumes and low margins. Not surprising that an AIB like Sapphire (which Radeontards love despite having large RMA rates and a shorter than industry standard (Nvidia) warranty) is one of the few that can manage to stay in business

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if you need a rig that can play 2k at 165fps look no further than this amazing AMD build I went with and have never looked back since

I play RDR2, MWII and III, Elden Ring (120-144 because it wasn't made for the fps unlock), etc at 165fps and cannot complain. I hit temps of 65C on my GPU at the hottest and like 50 on the CPU when playing RDR2 which is my most GPU intensive game.

I do use HUB settings but playing at 2k, you can't tell the difference and it is absolutely fantastic.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xgvZGP

>>100198613
>new reports
ESL

>>100197870
>>100197944
AMD needs to keep making better GPUs because that's where the money is at the moment.
The hardware technologies realizing better AI/ML hardware trickle down into client & consumer GPUs.
Jensen mentioned the sheer volume of GeForce GPU sales helped fund more risky R&D.
The same development scale won't happen at AMD, but they still need the cash flow from Radeon's business to fund GPU research.

>>100198683
>AMD needs to keep making better GPUs because that's where the money is at the moment.
amd has 0 chance to meaningfully compete with nvidia at the datacenter space. best they can do is offer a great deal on raw compute for large clusters, in situations where it makes sense for their customer to incur the cost of not working with cuda in order to get way more flops/$
the key here is that they can only compete by offering performance at bargain prices, so by definition they're missing out on a lot of the profit.

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>>100198788
Speak for yourself, NVIDIA's customers know they're being taken for a ride atm.
There's a reason why NVIDIA's offering semi-custom GPU designs, they know this party won't last forever.

>>100198853
>The more you buy the more you save
Honestly a dark quote when you really think about it

>>100198853
Idk what fuckin games people are playing these days but anything beyond an XTX 7900 is a complete waste of money.

>>100198922
The XTX is a waste of money
Could have gotten a 4080 Super for a similar price

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>>100198879
There's a better quote, NVIDIA transitioned into becoming an AI company in the mid 2010s.
The transition period fits nicely with Turing GPU's research & development cycle; it takes about 3~5 years of development to launch a new CPU/GPU to market.

>>100198945
Honestly, anything past $600 seems really overkill, something like a 7900 GRE or RTX 4070 Super is good enough for most people.

>>100198945
yeah then I'd have to buy bullshit intel parts for double the price I spent on my AMD build for like what? a 10 fps increase? It already maxes out my display's 165hz at 2560x1440p so I'm not just glad I spent less, but I actually got good products for my money's worth.

Fuck Nvidia and Intel, they just grift because of their gay ass name and whatever. And this is coming from me who was gonna get the 4080 Noctua just because I could afford a build with it.

This is as future proofed as you're gonna get unless you wanna buy whatever is next for the Ray tracing tech which didn't seem that great to me. At that point, you might as well just go outside and look at the sun, touch some grass.

>>100198853
>Speak for yourself, NVIDIA's customers know they're being taken for a ride atm.
oh, hell yes, no objection whatsoever
as your picrel states, tesla and google already made their own in-house ML gpus, and will make more. and i'd bet every cent i own that every other tech giant is also looking for ways to avoid paying leatherjacketman 70% margins.
nvidia's party has an expiration date for sure.

they will likely keep the gpu for rent market forever tho. a large company may be willing to eshew nvidia and cuda for their own big projects, but smaller firms and startups cannot invest the extra engineer time to work without cuda.

ofc, when it comes to AMD, they're just one of the options for avoiding having to pay aforementioned 70% margins. which is what i was getting at. if they get any datacenter sales at all, its on the basis of offering much better value. so, by definition, the won't be printing money like nvidia is currently doing.

>>100199086
aka Nvidia is Jewing you out of cash because they are the current king of the hill

The only good thing to come out of China's war with Taiwan would be the downfall of faggot Nvidia niggers

>>100199086
>the won't be printing money like nvidia is currently doing.
I never said they will anyway. There's quite a favorable gap between near 70% margin NVIDIA's currently making and 0%.
Any data center GPU market share gained by AMD is a massive win since they're simultaneously competing against Intel & NVIDIA.

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>>100199118
You could even say AMD is Ryzing to the top!

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AMD's inferior AI chips already got major buyers anyway, their need to catch up will spur better GPU development.

>>100199100
>aka Nvidia is Jewing you out of cash because they are the current king of the hill
because they have cuda. which is what every ML engineer already knows how to write. so you either pay for nvidia cards, or you pay the manhour cost of teaching your engineers to write ML some other way.

>The only good thing to come out of China's war with Taiwan would be the downfall of faggot Nvidia niggers
nah.
cuda will still be a thing, even if nvidia has to manufacture their cards at intel fabs or samsung fabs or wherever else.

>>100199118
>I never said they will anyway. There's quite a favorable gap between near 70% margin NVIDIA's currently making and 0%.
sure, but they need to offer a big discount to justify the lack of cuda.

>Any data center GPU market share gained by AMD is a massive win since they're simultaneously competing against Intel & NVIDIA.
i very much doubt they'll ever be able to win any significant market share. nvidia will ofc keep the premium segment, but on the other side of the coin you have a lot of startups trying to break into the ML gpu space without the added complexity and costs of also making gaming capable cards. and ofc you also have the tech giants themselves taping out their own silicon, like tesla and google have done.
so, yea, i really don't see amd gaining any significant foothold in the market in the long term.

>>100199167
>>100199167
>nah.
okay good, fuck Chinese Colonialism.
>Nvidia stills jews you
let's hope AMD wins more in the future

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>>100199167
You don't seem to understand there's a shortage of AI hardware & its related board components atm, AMD will get buyers for their own AI GPUs.
AMD doesn't need to make a better chip to make more money in data center GPUs, Lisa Su & AMD already know this.

>>100199153
That's because Nvidia literally can not make GPUs fast enough and in enough quantity to satisfy demand from those same major buyers
So instead those buyers are literally forced to go to AMD to pick up whatever they can
100% if Meta and Microsoft could buy more Nvidia hardware, they wouldn't even bother looking to AMD

>>100199208
The 'why' doesn't matter, the sales orders all count in the balance sheet.
Those sales proceeds will go back to developing better AMD GPUs.

>>100199202
>You don't seem to understand there's a shortage of AI hardware & its related board components atm, AMD will get buyers for their own AI GPUs.
yes, ofc. that's why i said
>long term
right now, there's a shortage, and right now, amd has an opportunity to sell chips. but long term, they will be pushed out of the space.
nvidia will keep them out of the high margin gpus for rent business, and startups or tech giant's own silicon will push them out of the low margin, bulk compute sans cuda business.

>>100195662
>requires quick fps drops from 150+ down to the 30s
Lol lmao. Have you tried not having a shitty gpu and capping fps?

>>100199229
>but long term, they will be pushed out of the space.
Amazon, Google, and Microsoft all have the scale to push out NVIDIA in the rentable business as well.
AMD's going to increase its market share in the data center GPU long-term because no one's going to put up with NVIDIA or any other dominant hardware manufacturer.

>>100199202
samefag >>100199229
and while we're on the "shitting on AMD" subject, let me also say that im not too optimistic for their cpu business neither, at least the consumer part of it.
intel has been doing an extremely admirable job keeping up with amd in performance, both in multicore but especially in gaming. and they have been doing it while using nodes that are at least a couple notches worse than the tsmc stuff amd is using.
assuming intel catches up in the node department, whether by their fabs managing to make a decent node or by switching to tsmc themselves, amd is megafucked.
just imagine what the cpu market would look like today if the 13600k and 14700k weren't on intel 10nm++++++ but instead was on tsmc 5nm like the ryzen 7000s
ofc, amd has x3d and chiplets, but i see now reason intel couldn't replicate those too, especially if they switch to tsmc, who's packaging is behind x3d.

>>100199264
>Amazon, Google, and Microsoft all have the scale to push out NVIDIA in the rentable business as well.
theoretically, yes. apple too. they all have the engineering chops to actually make a cuda competitor from scratch. but imo this is a very long term project and i'd bet good money that the current ML hype will die down before any such project actually materializes.

>AMD's going to increase its market share in the data center GPU long-term because no one's going to put up with NVIDIA or any other dominant hardware manufacturer.
as i explained, nvidia will keep them out of rentable gpus because cuda, and startups and whatever silicon the giants make themselves will keep them out of bulk cheap compute.
amd literally has no way to gain a foothold in the long term.

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>>100199280
The only company that's guaranteed to lose long-term market share in AI hardware is NVIDIA.
You're thinking too much in binary terms regarding AMD because that's your limit.
They don't have to be the #1 in any business to thrive, and their own business executives knows this.

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>>100199301
There's a literal alliance against CUDA being formed and AMD has every incentive to improve their own ROCm software.
Your brain's too small to understand that mega-rich tech companies won't settle with the current status quo.
This is why NVIDIA's been heavily marketing the semi-custom AI GPU initiative as well as stressing they're not just selling data center GPUs.

>>100199312
>>100199338
im sensing an acute inability to understand the points im making.
i hereby formally accuse you of being a chatbot. ironically, one trained on nvidia hardware.
to prove otherwise, let me know, in the most colorful terms, how you feel about black people, indians, and trans people.

>>100199338
NTA, I'd like to buy an AMD GPU. But I won't because they suck. Corps would like to buy AMD GPUs, but any that can afford not to won't, because they suck

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>>100199358
i can tell you're a fake because the XTX 7900 Sapphire Nitro+ is perfect for your needs but you're just gonna cuck out to Nvidia because muh intel and whatever bullshit excuse you can muster when it's clear a faggot like you doesn't make videos or render anything anyways.

If you're gonna sit at home and play vidya like a good little goy, you might as well save your jewbucks while buying something from a reputable manufacturer instead of sucking kike cock and paying for the privilege out of pocket.

kek

>>100199356
Says the retard who thinks research institutions and profit-driven businesses will continue to allow NVIDIA to financially sodomize them, even in the long term.
That's not how a competition-driven free market & capitalism work, maybe it does in your shithole.

>>100199358
It's good enough for Meta & Microsoft, AMD doesn't give a fuck about you or your sub $2000 purchasing decisions.

>100199382
yup, a chatbot.

>>100199393
Says the idiot who thinks CUDA will be dominant forever when the tech industry's trying to decouple from it.
There's a reason why NVIDIA's sowing the seeds for a more service-oriented future.

>>100199382
>It's good enough for Meta & Microsoft
They're not good enough though. It's literally just the only option left because Nvidia can't make enough
Beggars can't be choosers but that doesn't mean the scraps they get are "good enough"

>>100196131
>GTX 970 flashbacks

>>100199382
>“We’re using a lot of Nvidia hardware,” Musk said during the earnings call. “We’ll actually take Nvidia hardware as fast as Nvidia will deliver it to us. Tremendous respect for [CEO] Jensen [Huang] and Nvidia. They’ve done an incredible job.”

>>100199417
If they're not good enough, those companies don't spend millions on those orders.
AMD's AI GPUs are better than holding that cash on hand.

>>100199427
>“We’re actually showing developers how you migrate out from an NVIDIA platform.”
>“It’s about specifically – in the context of machine learning frameworks – how do we create an open ecosystem, and promote productivity and choice in hardware.”

>>100196301
What's your ratio /pcbg/?
3:8:4 reporting in.

My GTX 970 only lasted like 6 years before it died...

>>100199458
trashcan gpu just like yu

>>100196301
3:8:2 ratio

3:8:3

Is there an optimal time in the year to buy pc components for a discount? I've decided that after 8 years I'm going to do a full build minus storage and peripherals. Should I just buy the components throughout the year as I see them advertised on a sale?

>>100199744
dude just buy a dell

>>100197293
Bruh it's gonna be almost a year before next x3d is out perfect time for a 7800x3d upgrade

>>100199744
>go to pcpart picker
>pick the parts you want
>save the build
>check back daily to see if any go on sale
>???
>profit

>>100199744
christmas time

>>100199760
5800x3d is more than enough for most everything you're playing. What in the world is so CPU intensive that you need a burning hot 7800x3d for? I don't even hit 70% on RDR2 and GTA V. What the fuck is out there worth playing that you need to upgrade?

>>100199767
You people always hide the most crucial step behind ???

>>100199744
For the US, it's usually summer sales (back to school) & the 1~2 months leading up to Black Friday sales.
Actual Black Friday pre/sales weeks can be hit or miss.
If you spot a great deal before Black Friday, commit to it because there's a risk of the offer being sold out by the time it's Black Friday.
This happens to more popular products like storage drives, less to gaming-specific parts.

>>100199775
>GTA V 70%
No way. You mean we can finally run GTA V with all settings cranked up?

>>100199744
>Should I just buy the components throughout the year as I see them advertised on a sale?
If you can test each product you purchase, this is fine.
Don't just buy a CPU, you need to get at least a compatible cooler, memory kit, and motherboard to make sure all those parts are working.
Video cards are easier to test as long as your PSU can run it at max loads.

>>100199794
sure can buddy, the game isn't well enough optimized that it won't dip on it's own no matter what GPU you run but the CPU runs it like a dream.

I think the most stable you can really play GTA V at ever is 120fps because of Engine Limitations because my rig is overkill for it. The most it will dip is down to 108~ from 120 but it will go up to 140+, it's just the stutter is so abhorrent, you'll want to keep it at 120 so the fuckin thing doesn't annoy the shit out of you as you're driving around killing things

here's a pretty legit build; key takeaways being the 5800X3D, XTX 7900 Nitro Sapphire+ (they're all good but I wasn't about to FAFO with my first AMD GPU), Tomahawk Wifi (not necessary, I got it for convenience's sake as a just in case) and like 32GB of Ram so you can dual monitor with chrome or firefox no problem. I've seen similar builds that were watercooled but I couldn't buy into that whole concept and my thermal temps never rise past 65 on the GPU and like 55 on the CPU.

I used to have a tiny ass ITX build with a 1070 and an SG-13W silverstone case but that was my first build and not very well maintained but it did the job for what I needed it for at the time.

>>100199794
>>100199852
(Current) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xgvZGP

(Old) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qrbZQP

here's a smart idea: spend 4000 dollars right now on a top end gaming PC and then wince in pain when GTA 6, probably the best video game of all time if history rhymes, comes out on PS5
Me? Drop probably 600 bucks when GTA 6 comes out to play GTA6
PC Gaming Master Race reddit fuckin retards
>muh PC game pirating all these games
you can do that on a PC that costs less than 1000
your shit... your fuckin 2000 dollar gpu
will be obsolete in 3 years
you are absolutely mentally handicapped if you think that you can tell the difference between 144hz and 60hz
you are delusional and gay and stupid
this general
this general is a bunch of fucking rich kids and retarded grownups with jobs who think paying THOUSANDS of dollars
to play video games
that are literally ports of console games
makes you smart.
>muh PC has so many games, muh piracy, muh mouse and keyboard
retard every decent PC game can be played on a machine that costs less than 1000 dollars

What an awful post.

it's a great post and you're too chickenshit to give me a You
you know I'm fuckin right
go watch your LTT and Gaymers Nexus you stupid fucking PC Master Race reddit motherfucker

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>>100200045
GTA VI will come out after the PS5/Xbox Versions for the PC and will look much more fleshed out w/ better render distance if your GPU can handle it

>will be obsolete in 3 years
only if you crank the raytracing settings, otherwise the engines haven't changed much and with Occlusion Planes and optimized LODs, the only thing that pushes your GPU with regards to GTA and other open world games will be your render distance/texture resolution. Even then, they should have Frame Generation on GTA VI so it won't be a huge issue. 3080 and beyond cards are pretty much future proof for now. CPU-reliant factors like Crowd/Vehicle/Population density (See Cyberpunk 2077 levels of density to know which CPU bottlenecks what GPU) will be what drops the FPS as you will literally be generating an entire city filled with people and quick time events so that's a CPU problem and a 7800X3D will do the trick.

>>100200045
>difference between 144hz and 60hz
now I know you are trolling because there is a legit difference and your favorite basedboy streamerfags all run 240hz for CSGO and whatever gay shit they play for cucks like you to watch

>>100200045
>>muh PC has so many games, muh piracy, muh mouse and keyboard
>retard every decent PC game can be played on a machine that costs less than 1000 dollars
and I can fuck a dirty tranny for a hundred bucks but having a virgin unvaxxed trad waifu bijin to love and impregnate is how life SHOULD be lived

>>100200172
you can't impregnate a tranny

yet (they are working on it)

I have an open box 7950X and everything else needed for a new rig, should I sell it off and wait for the 9950X? I don't really need to set it up right now

>>100200562
I've got to ask you bought a 7950X if you don't really need it?

>>100200578
I bought parts for an entirely new rig exactly a year ago but I've been busy with other things and never got around to building it. I still don't "need" it right now so I've been wondering if I should just wait for the 9950X

>>100200611
Well if you bought it because you're a richfag that just wants the best then yeah sure. Maybe even wait for the X3D version. If, on the other hand, the loss from resale is more than a rounding error on your checking account then you should probably stop buying top end PC parts on a whim. Just to clarify, do you do anything that genuinely loads 32 threads?

Is there going to be too much of a performance loss if I go from a 2080ti to a 3070? I really just want to get a newer card for hdmi 2.1 and I'm trying to do it without losing much money (I paid $397 shipped) and price trends look like I could sell it for about what I paid for the card alone.

>>100200684
X3D would be a pain in the ass (especially since I'm gonna be dualbooting with MacOS) so I went for the regular 7950X and I'll probably get the regular 9950X too if I decide to wait. Not a richfag but I have a stable income.
>do you do anything that genuinely loads 32 threads
Yes, No Man's Sky.
Jokes aside I'm a musician (not by trade) and my sampler of choice eats threads like NOTHING else.

>>100200687
The raw performance is very similar - hard to notice either way. You may miss the VRAM since I'm guessing you want HDMI2.1 for 4k. If you don't mind losing the VRAM then consider a 4060Ti. Hell, if you can actually get $400 for the 2080Ti then you could even stretch to the 4060Ti 16GB which is ~$450 new right now. Though, again, performance at 4k will suffer slightly from the reduced bandwidth.

>>100200793
none of which matters for your use case (playing console ports)
get a fuckin PS5 you stupid fuckin retard
and use the leftover cash to lose your virginity.
with hookers.

>>100200769
>not by trade
That simplifies things. You don't really need either CPU so it basically comes down to how prodigal you want to be. If you do /want/ the best then yeah sure go ahead and eat the loss. If you want to be sensible then build with the 7950X and deal with slightly slower sampling.
Were it me I'd do the latter and put the money saved into my pension.

>>100200793
oh ok i had completely forgotten that the 40 series cards exist, but yeah i really just want it for 4k120, but i really don't play games or do tasks that are pushing my card beyond it's limit already. my cpu is my weakest link but i am not frequently under enough load to warrant that upgrade path yet so i'm not concerned.

>>100195610
2x16gb of ram for future - proof or games already require more than 16gb of ram?

>>100200842
>not by trade
>That simplifies things. You don't really need either CPU
My projects are limited by my current machine and again, the sampler eats threads like nothing else. 2 instances (tracks) with very simple keyswitches are enough to overload a 4ghz 8 threads skylake machine with the buffer set to 1024 samples and the entire project BARELY played fine on my friend's 12t coffee lake

What's the closest GPU in performance to the 4070 super without the 600 dollar price tag? And is the price worth it?

Can I get anything solid for 1000 euros in the Netherlands?
It would be mainly for gaming

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>>100195662
>>100195707
>still not dethroned

At this point they should invest in SED's.

>>100199775
NTA, but WoW 5800X3D -> 7800X3D easily double your avg FPS while eliminating frame drop and stutters entirely, and it gets huge boost in general in other CPU-bound games. 5800X3D on average hovers around the 7600 level outside of memory/cache-sensitive games, the 7800X3D get you the benefit of a generational improvement + the gains from the large L3 cache.

>a burning hot 7800x3d for?
Ackchyually the 5800X3D runs hotter and uses more power, the 7800X3D is hard locked to eco-mode, it has the same power profile as a 7600, you can cool it with a Wraith Stealth.

>>100201080
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/HQkd7R

>>100200969
16gb ram builds were obsolete long ago even on ddr4 for anyone but poorfags
"require" is a strong word
you run more ram like you run a better cpu, for more consistent fps and a better experience
32gb literally if you run a game in full screen
64gb if you do more
96gb if you are an actual chad
128gb+ for workstationcucks and destroying your latencies
>>100201080
sounds like a budget build yes

Is there hope for Arrow Lake?

>>100199852
>sure can buddy, the game isn't well enough optimized that it won't dip on it's own no matter what GPU you run but the CPU runs it like a dream.
Take a look at the load on the individual cores in task manager. Even a 14900K maxes out individual cores when playing modded GTA (Fivem).

Currently on a 3800X
Looking to upgrade my CPU,
5800X3D - $320
5700X3D - $245

Is it worth the $75 difference? I wish I bought the 5800x3d two months ago when it was $270

>>100201226
Still on ddr4, ok, will consider upgrading from 16 to 32.

>>100201274
Upgraded my 3600x to 5800x3d. It's a huge difference, but I also think it's overkill (I play at 144hz and the CPU isn't working much), you'd probably be good with a 5700x3d . Especially if you don't have a $800+ GPU

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>>100201225
That PSU is liquid manure. The FOCUS GX unit is only €120 in the Netherlands and would be a more appropriate choice.

>>100201274
How long are you trying to do with this? If you want to last it a long time the 5800X3D is the better choice.

>>100200045
>Spend 600 dollars on a console and another $1600 dollar on games goy, it's a good idea.

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>>100199780
t. mongoloid who can't take use a website's basic functions without handholding

>>100201326
As long as I can deal with it, at least until things start to take it's toll.
I guess as a previous example I was on a i7 3770 from 2016-2021

>>100201274
going above the non existent 5600x3d isn't even worth it
>>100201293
at that point just save and buy a new ddr5 platform at this point maybe
>>100201316
I thought people used those things as rough drafts not nitpicking every single part as if it's a needed buy
>>100200045
>GTA
>good
goyslopper

>>100195662
>mfw 75" hisense uses a special IPS-style panel
>can use 4k 144hz VRR + HDR with flickering or smearing and looks just as good as OLED in most situations while costing a fraction of the price
thank god for these chink companies

>>100201080
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/QWxGFs

>>100196315
Son, western society isn't making it past this year
Splurge now or you will never have anything

>>100201134
SED's would have been sample and hold just like LCD's
Probably would be better than OLED, though.

>>100201316
Good catch, thanks. I just eyeballed it from the cultist list and its ranked upper B-tier

>>100201673
nahhh bro Ryzen 7600(X) or bust

>>100201634
>I thought people used those things as rough drafts not nitpicking every single part as if it's a needed buy
No, people literally buy based on what you recommend. I've even been sent €10 as a tip for assebling a list for a Reddit user.

>Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards
Can someone elaborate on what the "workstation" entails? I'm asking, like, art editing programs, 3D modeling, something like AutoCAD?

>>100201928
>Can someone elaborate on what the "workstation" entails? I'm asking, like, art editing programs, 3D modeling, something like AutoCAD?
Pretty much:
>A workstation is designed according to the specific wishes of ambitious business users like designers or architects. With a workstation laptop or desktop, you can do heavy calculating work, make complex 3D environments, or professional 4K animations.

>>100201941
Thanks, that was actually a really simple definition

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>the MSI 4070 TI Super models (Ventus and probably Slim) are underperforming and have weird vbios updates
>the PNY has fan issues
>Asus is 100€ above the rest in my area for some reason and coil whine is common
>left with Zotac (Gaming Trinity) and Gigabyte (Windforce, Eagle)

wat do?

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>>100201985
Get the Aorus Master and slap 4 (one on the back) Noctua fans and a heatsink on it.

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So this is the power of OLED... wow....

>>100201985
Buy 4070 super

>>100200826
>get a fuckin PS5 you stupid fuckin retard
Even with an overpriced gpu the amount you save with piracy is amazing.

is the lian li o11 mini the only mATX that can fit an ATX board?

Just upgraded the ram and ssd in my five year old laptop. Added 8 gb ram to the single slot one from before to get dual channel and switched the m.2 sata out with a 1 tb nvme. It's a completely different machine now. I should've done this years ago. I didn't know it had a m.2, I've thought all this time that the sata one was a regular sata drive and not a m.2. It wasn't even that expensive.

Hello retards, now that Arctic has released their P14 Max fans, did they make any improvements which makes it worth it to buy them, or should I just get myself a pack of P12 ARGB? I use my PC for university, programming and gayming.

>>100202724
I use tons of the P12 fans, I don't really think the increase in price is worth it, they aren't that much more quiet. You could probably buy a pack and just check out, they're nice for having later I guess.

>>100202724
>Hello retards
Hello.

>>100198629
Why not go for AM5 and 7800X3D?

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>>100195610
>Have a PC I built in 2014
>Don't game much but when I do it's always worked on my PC or I play on a 3DS.
>Only main issue is this weird thing where it seems to act like my c drive fills up fast randomly, then next time it would have 4gb left.
>Have an urge to consoon a new PC when I know deep down I really don't need one

It's a i5 4590, 16gb ram, GTX 970

Should I just copy my small 100gb C drive SSD onto a fresh larger SSD?

Or how do I do a fresh wipe and install, it's been a decade since i did all that shit lol. Can I still leave all my other hard drives untouched? And it would have all the media and files on them when I plug them back in?

>>100202910
Also to add guys.

Don't fall for the m-itx meme. It was small the rage back in the day and look at me. Having the same build for a decade and wishing I had more room on my motherboard for more storage and stuff. And not be so crammed when I did want to add stuff

I guess an upside to the gpu market here being fucked is that I can get 150€ for my 1070 to go towards a 300€ used 3060 purchase

>>100195662
VRR has never made sense for OLED

>>100195757
how long do AIOs stay liquid filled? will they dry up eventually or can I run it forever like my air cooler?

>>100202938
its for consoles like xbox. lfc at 30fps smooths out the judder.

so I just bought 2 140mm LCD Lian li fans and found out the hard way that they need a brand new controller since they are newer fans. My only concern is will my Infinity fans work with the new controller or am I going to have 3 separate controllers in my case? (strimmer, and fans)

>>100203149
LOL NO
if it last more than 5 years they failed

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If you had this motherboard for five years (it even supports x3d cpu's, at least on paper), would you upgrade to 5800x/5700x/3d or switch to AM5? It works very stable and finances are limited. I'm thinking about it + adding more RAM.

>>100203769
It will be cheaper since DDR4 is cheap as fuck and you don't have to purchase a new motherboard
Although I will warn you not to just purchase another RAM kit to go alongside your existing one, if you want to upgrade your RAM buy a higher capacity two stick kit, your performance will be better just using two higher capacity sticks
Also make sure they're either 3200/cl16 or 3600/CL18
Check vendor QVL for extra assurance

>>100203803
Yes, I thought about a new RAM kit. Too bad about existing 2x8gb sticks, they are nice samsung ones working at 3000mhz without an issue, utilizing them too would be perfect.
Thanks.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TKSDKR?psc=1

this ram good for overclocking?

I'm looking for a monitor to do programming work comfortably, visual studio, and such
I work mostly with dark themes because eye floaters are too distracting with light themes, so the dark colors must look good and have good contrast.
4K because I often have to test high DPI settings.
Good on the eyes to work 8 hours a day, no PWM or whatever.
No need for gaming stuff, refresh rate higher than 60hz is appreciated but not a must
I work with a 3 monitor setup, I know DPI settings fuck up applications when moving between monitors but there's no avoiding it
Italy, budget 500-1200

>>100203769
5700x3d plus more ddr4 ram is the way to go

>>100203877
any ram low CL ram is good, ram dies are just a meme

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

This tool is amazing
Adds framegen for all games
Works better than FSR and Nvidias crap

>>100201985
>Ventus
Haven't heard anything about this the fix in january tho, apparently you run the vbios update.exe and it just works

>>100203976
since* the fix rather

>>100201985
Buy the Gaming X Slim, you just have to run a vBIOS updater.
The file is provided on MSI's official support page with instructions.
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-SUPER-16G-GAMING-X-SLIM/support

Ventus is also fine if you don't care about OCing it, I wouldn't get it though.

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I just built a new pc and I'm trying to install w11 on it, can I just use the "create installation media" thing to put the files on a usb, take the usb out, then put it in the new pc?

I've never done it like this before.

>>100203477
>Odyssey niggas with the "It's basically the IPS of VA's due to secret samsung technology so it has no more downsides of the VA :^)
Why so quiet

>>100204328
get the file from rutracker and format the usb with rufus

>>100204374
I dont know what any of that means

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Day 387 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>100204328
>can I just use the "create installation media" thing to put the files on a usb, take the usb out, then put it in the new pc?
Yes you can. The installation media will guide you through the process.

>ASUS PRIME B660M-K D4
is it good for i5 12400f

>>100203477
>MSI Optix G321CU
So it can be improved, too bad the rest of that monitor's underwhelming.

>>100204765
Yes it's fine, you don't have to worry about VRM temperatures if you don't plan on upgrading the CPU to an i7/i9.

how to clean a cpu if i dont have that fancy alcohol?

>>100204792
if i upgrade it would be to i5 12600kf

>>100204811
can i clean it with rakija

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>>100204555
Day 1500 of waiting for gpu prices to go down

Anons, I'm thinking of getting Deepcool AK620 digital cpu cooler for my ryzen 5600X, I've had it for more than two years with the stock cooler and my temps seem to be ok for what I'm using it, do you think it's a good idea to upgrade and it's a future proof cpu cooler?

>ASUS PRIME B660M-K D4
or
>ASROCK B660M-HDV

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>>100204892
GPU manufacturers priced you out of good video cards.
They don't want your business anymore if you're unwilling to pay it, you're worth less than GeForce Now Basic tier customers.
The days of the $380 MSRP GTX 1070 are completely over, it's ancient history.

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>>100204918
AK620 is a scam, get the Mugen 6 dual fan edition or one of the Thermalright coolers instead.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rV9wrH/scythe-mugen-6-dual-fan-6029-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-6000dbe

>>100204961
Yeah, it fucking sucks. I believe it's more the ai business sales that's doing it though.
I won't be supporting nvidia regardless so I'll go for used, but even that market is fucked.

>>100204328
It's better to download the iso and use rufus, because then you can add to be able to install without internet connection and connecting to outlook, and you can install it on pcs you otherwise wouldn't be allowed to.

>>100204388
you can download the iso directly from microsoft, no reason to get a russian botnet to install windows

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is logical increments a good guide?

>>100204976
Unfortunately I dont have thermalright or scythe available where I live. From the graph you posted the ak620 doesn't seem to do badly tho?

>>100205091
No.

>>100205091
The editor's practically a boomer by now, he's not fully in-tuned with component recommendations.
The site just stops you from making a disastrous PC.
Just look at the PSU & cases recommended in that pic of yours, there's no guarantee EVGA will fulfill their 10-year PSU warranties.
He's out of touch.

>>100205105
Basic AK620 costs $55. AK620 digital costs $80 in the US, Mugan 6 dual is $55 and the Thermalrights are even cheaper.

>>100204892
I will never forgive the jews.

>>100205233
Blame china

>>100205105
I have ak620 (got it for 40$) with 7700x, works pretty good. It is also one of the nicest looking ones

is 12600kf worth 35euros over 12400f?
plan to pair it with 4060

>>100205434
imo yes.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4625vs4681/Intel-i5-12600KF-vs-Intel-i5-12400F

>>100205434
samefag as >>100205555
i forgot to say
>plan to pair it with 4060
imo that's a bad idea. go with a 6700xt instead, ideally used for max savings. but even a new one, at similar prices to a 4060, would be a better choice. a 3060 12gb would also be a better choice, but only if you need it for ML/productivity stuff. for pure gaming, 6700xt is the way right now. 8gb is simply not enough in tyool 1999+25

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQVcsh

Do you guys think this is a good PC for planetside? I'm looking to get >=120fps frames in 96+ fights with stability. Is there anything I can swap out for making things a little cheaper. From my understanding, planetside is very CPU extensive so as long as I have a solid CPU, which I heard the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is good, then I won't have any issues. I'm hoping to swap the mobo/gpu since these were recommended by a friend, but I think I can get something cheaper

>>100205597
go back to plebbit

>>100205933
no thank you. if we were on reddit, i wouldn't be able to call you a retarded doublenigger

>>100205961
whatever schizo keep your amd cope on plebbit

>>100205668
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPXbYN
Swapped the mobo for a cheaper one that will still get the job done, only get an expensive mobo with a more advanced chipset if you actually need it.
Swapped the cpu cooler for an air cooler, slightly cheaper and will still cool the 7800X3D rather well, this CPU is rather cool anyway, so practically anything can cool it properly.
Swapped the RAM for slightly faster and cheaper RAM.
Swapped the SSD for a cheaper one, nothing wrong with the Samsung of course, but this is quite literally just to save some $, feel free to ignore/revert this change.
6700 XT instead of an RTX 4060, more performance, more VRAM, about the same price and it's considered a better deal, however, you might want to research if Planetside 2 favors Nvidia or AMD, and pick the brand that plays the game better.
You probably don't want to buy a license for W11, and you might want to get W10 instead, /fwt/ will help you out with activating it for free, they have a lot of info on their OP.
>>>/g/fwt

>>100206009
stfu.
i am NOT pro-amd. the 6700xt is the only card of theirs i recommend. well, also the rx580 for ultra budget builds. but in every other scenario, its nvidia all the time.

>>100206018
kek this amd tranny cant control him?self

>>100204892
bro mcdonalds is hiring, 20 dollars an hour, just put in 20 hours and you'll get a 4070

wherever you go on internet there will be this insecure amd buyers with their cope and regret so they rather shill so hard instead of taking their losses selling the amd and buying nvidia&intel ive been there as well

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>>100195796
>7600XT 16Gb
When there's 7700XT (although, 7600 8Gb is enough)
And single stick of RAM?

Got a $500 gift card from my company and thinking about upgrading my system. I've got a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RX 6600 XT. I can match the 500 for mobo, ram, etc. What would you guys recommend for 1440p gaming? I'd like to stick with AMD, but open to all suggestions.

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what could this possibly mean?

>>100206255
if you have to stick to $500 and not a dollar more, a 7800xt. but if you can, the best play would be to add ~100 of you own money and get a 4070super instead
at a later date, you should also do an inplace upgrade to a 5800x3d.

>>100206289
>if you have to stick to $500 and not a dollar more, a 7800xt
I can match $500 of my own money. I'll take a look into the 7800xt
>you should also do an inplace upgrade to a 5800x3d
Didn't realize this was am4. I'll have to compare it to my current chip. Thanks anon

>>100198629
>Overpriced peace of shit fans/cooler
If you'd go for something reasonable, you might have spare moni for AM5 platform

>>100205091
>>100205123
>>100205139
im about to go with the monsterous guide bros. i just want a computer to generate porn quickly and play total war for the next decade

>>100205289
How's the RAM clearance with it? I have two sticks of corsair vengeance pro 3200mhz, I'm kinda worried I might have to move one fan of the ak620 if I get it because the RAM might obstruct it

>>100206605
Your ram: 53mm
Your cooler clearance: 43mm
You done goofed, and there is even a cooler recommended for tall ram in the OP

i'm at a point where i need a new pc although i'm in no hurry and i've been reading a bit about current hardware.
with zen 5 cpus being announced soon i could wait to see how they perform compared to the current gen, maybe even wait for the x3d one hoping it's as good as the 7800x3d, but that's not my main concern since there are plenty of good options if i wanted to buy a cpu right now.
but the fucking gpus man, how should i decide? there isn't an obvious choice because all options suck one way or another. with rdna 4 and rtx5000 being released in the near future i could wait to see how they turn out to be. 4070s has 12gb, 7800xt consumes more and lacks some features, but maybe it would run better on linux

I want to buy a radeon 7600 xt
Should I get a 2 fan or 3 fan version?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RX3ZmD
How does this look for 4k gaming? Budget ~$3.5k USD

> ASUS PRIME B660M-K D4

will these motherboard be good for

>i5 12600KF

>>100206691
this*

>>100206690
Core components look fine.
You'll need two extra intake fans and I'd go with an AIO over an air cooler.

>>100206690
Case and PSU are meh at best
Need to do some research into 4 sticks of RAM - chances are they won't run like that in EXPO with AM5

>>100206690
CPU cooler is overpriced, you can get very similar results with a $38 Thermalright Phantom Spirit, but if you're getting it for the looks then ignore this.
Also, no storage? You plan on re-using SSD/HDDs from a previous build?

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Anyone have any experience with this? It seems to occur at random without any regard for whether I'm running a torture test or watching a youtube video.

>>100206890
You need to disclose your CPU, video card, and PSU at the bare minimum if you want some help.
It could be your PSU not being good enough to handle the system, it could be an Intel i9 shitting the bed, it could be drivers causing bad shutdown.

Which one is best?

1) Motherboard with wi-fi and bluetooth built in
2) PCI-E card
3) USB dongle

regardless I need both wifi and bluetooth on the pc I'm building

>>100207010
Get a reasonably priced motherboard with all those features built in.

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>>100206690
bro you can get a $44 AIO 380mm air cooler from thermalrite and it'll perform better than what you have

>>100207036
>>100207036
>>100207036

>>100207029
I figured as much and that's what I have in the cart but still I thought that maybe the other option would have its advantages (if I upgrade MB in the future I could use it for example)

>>100207010
Built in saves you from wasting a slot
USB is garbage

>>100206605
>>100206629
https://youtu.be/UGM6FcLDckk?t=292

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>>100206890
>>100207001
>Zotac Amp Holo 3080ti
>7600x
>B650m DS3H
>Corsair Vengeance 32GB 6000Mhz
>Segotep GM750W
As I said, I can't repeat the error while running the rig at full throttle for extended periods (many hours), and most of the crashes are while browsing.

>>100206118
I only buy AMD when it's a bargain. Have probably just bought AMD two cards the past ten years.

>>100207010
You pay a pretty hefty premium for integrated wifi and bluetooth.
An own pci-e adapter is better and less expensive and can be moved from one build to another.

Who's the best manufacturer for Nvidia currently?

>>100207010
>Motherboard with WiFi and Bluetooth built in
Do not do this, Bluetooth sucks on computer and if you absolutely need to use WiFi just get an adapter with an actual antenna otherwise speeds are going to be shit and it will drop connection frequently.
Get a pcie Bluetooth adapter as the connection will be more stable if you need Bluetooth for whatever reason

>>100207750
EVGA

Hmmmm
Is the Fractal North XL worth it for the extra space?
already have the regular north which fits my 4070 ti super but would be good to futureproof if I ever want a bigger GPU
(also the idea of top mounting my 360mm AIO appeals to me)

>>100207157
Could be a display driver issue, I'd get the latest NVIDIA drivers, disable internet access, run DDU & install the new drivers.

>>100207800
Modern Bluetooth & WiFi boards come with their antennae, try buying some good boards for a change.

>>100207837
good one

>>100207750
Nvidia themselves