Endgame for just 20 buckaroos EditionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)>Full Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/c8gqc>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tangzu Wan'er S.G (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10• Yincrow X6 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• Shanling M0 Pro - $130• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>100087868
Bucket of crabs thread, just buy headphones like normal people lol
>>100120149>headphones>normal peoplebro...
Chu 2 is better with stock tips than spinfit w1
>>100120149Literal garbage.
Any good POS coming out soon?
>>100120149Everyone knows Airpoods are what normies will only ever buy. Poor normies listen on their phone speaker.
>>100120175Dunu DaVinciTruthear Hola 2Simgot BCD memesAPP3
>>100120175>CRAPro dead on arrival, dumb chinks tried to scalp and scam based on the OG which they ruined>transjim 4u probably gonna be overpriced and queer like its tranny company>tangzu xuan HBB collab is good but not for 70$. Shit build quality like seriously looks awful. looks worse than wankers. $70 for 2DD is obscene>truthear may be releasing successor to Hola some time this decade2024 has been a crapshow. Chinks realized they don’t actually have to do anything and can just ride on reviewer hype, FOTM, and deaf niggers not being able to tell the difference between Beethoven and their own asshole
>>100120257Just clone variations, sell for $99 and sweep the market for the next year at least Its so easy but chinks are dumb
>>100120292harman bass scoop is cringe
>>100120149>headphonesenjoy your hair loss
>>100120292Truthear Nova basically did that but guess what?Harman is cringe and dogcrap and everyone secretly hates it even if they don’t realize it.>+2db @ 200hz>+3db @ 10khz+then it would’ve been good
>>100120292An IEM that sounds exactly the same as a variation for under 100 doesn't have the $450 of cope and placebo that makes them sound good anon
>>100120292Retard
My endgame with EQ (minus treble personalization). 3 filters for the large changes, and 3 more for treble refinement.
whats the diff between a pair of $20 dollar iem and 500$ ++ pair?
>>100120605$480
>>100120605the pricetag.
>>100120605$20 IEMs are smaller, lighter, have lower distortion and don't depend on source impedance.
why can't chinks get a normal brand name?Hisenior, AFUL, Juzear, NiceHCK, Softears, some random letters, etc...why??even if they release a banger the name ruins it
>>100120605optimally: better FR, better driver quality, better accessories, better build quality, better customer service, better quality control, better warranty.usually: better accessories, better build quality*, worse FR and driver quality, worse fit, worse price, worse quality control, worse customer service.
>>100120635If you don't think CKLVX is the pinnacle of naming you're never gonna make it.
>>100120635Chink brands should embrace chink names, like Tangzu or Tanchjim
>>100120617kek
>>100120635ah yes having boring soulless corporate sounding shit for brand names is much better
>>100120758>chinese gibberish for western names isn't corporate brandinglmaooooooooooo
>>100120605$20 stuff usually aren't very durable due to the reliance on nozzle filter for tuning. That doesn't mean the $500 won't have the same issues, but in general there won't be as severe. And the cable, cases, tuning nozzles, pricier models tend to have lot of these bells and whistles. >>100120635Chinks can't into English most of the time. Now try to invent a chink brand name that sounds good to them yourself, see the problem?
>>100120841>QVEER IEMlol
>>100120717or heavily stylized chink names like Simgot
>>100120899>hey buddy we need a westernized name>make sure it doesn't have a shit meaning>alright I checked the dictionary, there is no word for it so it should be fine
>>100120966LOL
>>100120841not just queer but also extremely ugly
based hola thread
>>100121140>hola>halo
>>100121140Shiroi cute
>>100121140whore-ish packaging. ditch the shit waifu and then they'll dominate the game
>>100121113>chang actually got that right
>>100121140sad its out of stock
>>100120364Nova is nowhere near as good as variations and uses a fucking cloth filter
>>100120036I spent about 2 hours listening to my Moondrop Blessing 3 and Revel x seanolive Concerta2 F36. I'm still trying to understand iems. The graph shows my subjective impressions adjusted to the headphone scale.I'm just blogging to myself, but I'll quickly relate my observations. At moderate volumes, the F36 speakers sound nothing like iems. There are no lower mids and no mid bass. At loud volumes, the lower mids return. The Blessing 3 is balanced at low and mid volumes and you can the hear instruments in the mix, unlike the speakers.I can only describe the upper mids and treble of the F36, at high volumes, as perfect. The sound is very detailed, you can pour energy into tweeters and it sounds flawless. The upper mids through treble of the Moondrop Blessing 3 are nothing like this. The iem is a shit cannon, everything about the upper mids sounds wrong. That's all there is to say.It's true the difference is subtle and I'm exaggerating, but if the F36 is good then the Blessing 3 is bad. And I'm not singling out the Blessing 3, it's just the best chi-fi I've got. My conclusion is, iems are preferable for low-mid and ear preserving volumes. At ear-splitting volumes, the speakers are much better. I take this to mean that the Harman Target approximates speakers playing at a high volume.
>>100121263All of this is just hypothesizing without any solid reference.Post measurements of your speaker setup, or at least post spin data instead of relying on what you're hearing (human hearing is horrible) and trying to tie it to objective data.
>they're just like variations bro!!1!
>>100121317>technical and detail hallmark of an untrained listener, opinion can be safely disregarded.
>>100121288In writing the above I strongly felt that human hearing is subjective, especially in the treble. I'm arguing that the objective measurements are meaningless if you can't make impressions with your ears and your brain. The wavelength of 10000 kHz is about 1 inch, and the human ear canal is also about 1 inch. One theory is that wave interference between the iem drivers and the ear canal causes iems to sound bad, regardless of the measured frequency response.
>>100121213it's available on ali on the official store but yeah other than that it's gone. I got mine from amazon.jp a few months ago when i also ordered some cds
>>100121140I bought 4 pair recently just in case they are never in stock again.
>>100121147Hoe.>>100120292Techs = price, you literally can't have the same techs if the price is lower.
>>100121409You're talking about topics that are very basic and have been discussed here and pretty much everywhere as if they're some dark groundbreaking stuff. You clearly haven't read the research or the literature enough to fully understand how to account for all of these different variables. You can't even describe why the IEMs sound bad, you just say they do without providing any explanation.I know that everything I just said is incredibly pretentious, but that's the truth. Your post is just another opinion that holds no weight.
>>100121419it's available on amazon uk but for ~30 usd including tax and shipping to the us... not sure if worth it or wait til hola 2
>>100121512i like my hola but frankly i think the tinhifi c2 mech warrior is better and it's like $20 on sale $25 not on sale
>>100121506Yeah it's literally my blogpost and I'm new, I opened by saying that. As you say, perhaps everyone agrees that good speakers are better.
>>100120187I still see plenty of people with random dollar store wired earbuds.
>>100121541Speakers and IEM/headphone sound reproduction work significantly differently. Unless someone knows the reasons as to why, and can account for them when comparing the two, any comparison between the two should be ignored on the basis that they are incomparable, wholly different audio reproduction systems. It's not worth comparing the two of them, especially if you can't comment on why the IEMs sound worse apart from just saying they do.>everyone agrees that good speakers are better.Doubtful, I have not seen conclusive research that indicates a preference for either, and I doubt there will be due to how hard it would be to do controlled comparisons.
>>100120364>>100121317Nova does graph like variations except in the techs region above 10k. It's not surprising if someone calls the Nova 80% the same as Variations except Variations has more techs. That's exactly what your ears will tell you.
>>100121633>everyone agrees that good speakers are better.I was thinking of this quote from Crinacle when I said that.https://crinacle.com/2020/11/19/sennheiser-he-1-review-59000-summit/It's not a question of research. If speakers and iems are apples and oranges, then you can listen to them and make your own observations. I've learned something today through practical experience. Unless you get speakers, all you will know is words on a screen and lines on a graph.
>>100121687>I was thinking of this quote from Crinacle when I said thatThe quote ignores all of the different reasons why someone would prefer speakers as opposed to IEMs/headphones. Someone could very well say that speakers can't go beyond "speaker level" sound and be just as valid.>If speakers and iems are apples and oranges, then you can listen to them and make your own observations.You can make observations, but doing comparisons without understanding the differences and contexts behind two things is not good.>I've learned something today through practical experience.That's good.>Unless you get speakers, all you will know is words on a screen and lines on a graph.Ignoring the assumption that I don't have experience with speakers, this is the exactly why snakeoil and common, easily disproven myths are so prevalent in audiophile communities.Personal, practical experience is NOT reliable, consistent, and useful when put out for people other than yourself. You need a reference point such that everyone can at least go around. Your blogpost can be a nice thing for you to say, but you make some claims that are entirely based on your experience, which is useless and a net negative to discussions and knowledge.
good iems according to Jay Audio:Simgot EA500LM ($89) Truthear NOVA (FOAM TIPS) ($150) ARTTI T10 ($50) $50 lowest.Simgot EW200 ($40) 7hertz Sonus ($59) $37-50 lowestCCA TRIO ($39) ARTTI R2 ($42)
>>100121940>jayaudioisn't he the retard that's obsessed with cringicle?
does type-c have worse audio quality than 3.5mm? I just want to listen on my google pixel 6
>>100122111dsp cables usually have noise artifacts in quiet parts of music (even the expensive ones). better to buy a type c dongle and 3.5mm iemshttps://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/moondrop-x-crinacle-dusk-an-inconvenient-truth
Hexa > all your pos
>>100122358Rockbox'd dac wins againNothing beats native peq support
>>100122467it's not even good
>>100120036Holas suck balls
>>100122467*forgets to solder the BA's that produce mids and trebel to the splitter board* oops
>inverted polarity>shit bassok
>>100122576Okay? Who doesn't love their balls getting sucked.
Cable end broke off in my aria snow edition, dunno if I'll just buy a new iem or try to remove that broken end, it seems hard to pull out
>>100122837Very carefully put a tiny drop of super glue on a pin, touch it to the end of the broken bit, wit till it sets and try and pull out.Very careful to use a tiny amount of super glue, you don't want to glue the pin in there.
Is there any flat sounding iems costing 20$ and below?
>>100122877>flat soundingincredibly difficult to define neutral. most in the rentry are relatively neutral desu
>>100122877You think you want flat but you don't really, it sounds awful.
>>100122877describe a neutral sounding headphone you like?
>>100122877Depends on what you mean by flat, but Wan'er is more similar to Hexa than it is different.
>>100122638>>100122530Had mine since launch, not a single issue
>>100122939I believe the issue is that buyers don't like the sound.
>>100122948I like the more "neutral" sound it has stock, especially for retro games since the bing bings can get fatiguing. Then for music etc it takes a Harman target eq very very well. Basically a two in one for me.
>EQing a BA posstop torturing your pos wtf
>>100122990Stupidest bullshit I've read on this website Then again you faggots hate autoeq but the graphs it outputs sound great
>>100123056fuck off chuzo
Out of curiosity I got the aful magicone since I remember liking the kbear neon back in the day, it's decent for a 1BA. Unfortunately I have to use tang sancai wide bore tips to reduce the suction effect and that cuts the already weak bass. There are a ton of SMDs inside the shell for what I can only assume are passive filters, but the end result is still a bit nasally sounding in the mids. I hear a peak at 5K which isn't shown in the graph along. 11K is forward by about 3dB. Detail is not too good, swapping to any of my other iems makes the difference immediately obvious how smeared it is. Soundstage is also bad because the pressure effect negatively affects soundstage for me. It's a fun novelty but any of the $30+ single DDs will outperform it in pretty much every category especially with some EQ. The cable is fucking sweet, I don't think I've seen a <$300 IEM with such a good cable.
>>100123056show measurements that you have taken of your own pos
>>100123068FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKI WAS GOING TO REDEEM THAT POS WHY DID YOU RUIN IT FOR ME NOW I HAVE TO CHECK FOR ANOTHER BA POS THAT'S GOOD LOOKING, COMFORTABLE, SOUNDS GOOD, AND HAS GOOD ISOLATION. DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING HARD THAT IS???
>>100123118Kara
>>100123068Thanks for the very interesting observations. That filter network must wreck havoc with the phase and absorb all the techs as well. I doubt the cheap ass microphones inside those model heads are capable of measuring phase over 1 kHz actually.
Are etyomotics really that good for noise reduction or is it just the triple flange tips that do all the work
>>100123134how's the fit?? if it's anything like their o2/hana, it's over, those shits are way too shortand isn't the kara not that isolating because of the massive vents??
>>100123068It's like trying to tune a lawnmower engine to its absolute limits to power a sports car instead of using a good old V6 car engine, fucking waste of time.
>>100123161it's what happens when you have a solid, dense metal tube with complete seal and no leakage.fwiw foam tips provide even more isolation. either way the isolation is incredible, nothing comes close. same with some of the shure stuff, small and deeply inserted nozzles.the only part where they're "lacking" is in the bass region. damn near impossible to isolate through passive means, which is where ANC shines. unfortunately ANC isn't anywhere close for anything >1khz
>>100123191Okay interesting, I've heard they sound pretty mediocre or even bad to some, do you have any experience?
>techsThis the new meme you fags are parroting?Funny how I never see you morons talking about treble extension anymore. How curious
>>100123238t. techletlearn to play the violin, then compare to your iems
>>100123234etymotics? they sound okit really depends on how deep of an insertion you're getting, and your canal geometry. i'd say that the 2xr is the only model worth looking at if bass is important. there are slight changes in the mids and treble depending on the model, but etymotics are generally something that serve a specific use case rather than just sounding good. you get them for isolation, and sound is an afterthought. even then, it's nothing that EQ can't fix.t. demo'd all of their main products except the drop ERX
>>100123238People were talking about treble extension on the CCA Trio just last thread.
>>100123118There's always the U18s (lol)>>100123159The phase actually looks okay, I don't think the filter is that crazy.
>>100123333>3333I just don't think these things are that precise. For example, if you injected 180 phase in a narrow bump from 8.5 to 8.7 kHz, would it show up? (doubt)
>>100123405I don't have any DSP to just insert phase shifts, but a Q30 +20dB filter shows up in the phase diagram.
>>100123333nice digits and lol, not getting any kilobuckpos for commuting>>100123405minimum phase devices, modifying anything in phase response will also change the frequency response, and vice versa.
>>100123461>minimum phase devices, modifying anything in phase response will also change the frequency response, and vice versa.That claim is contrary to mathematics.>>100123460Interesting. I'm not sure, but it's possible the real phase shift of such a filter would be like pic related.
>>100123565That looks like a low or high pass filter, the EQ I'm using is a bell/peak filter. I don't imagine the measurement rig is anything close to accurate, the question is if it's good enough to show issues of audible concern. I leave that to the phaselords to decide, I haven't personally investigated phase and IEM crossovers.
>>100123283Thanks brah
>>100123565>>100123649https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_phase#Relationship_of_magnitude_response_to_phase_responsephase is not an issue, especially with IEMs. even logically speaking, how would any phase distortion or fuckery happen?
>>100123699>how would any phase distortion or fuckery happen?by listening to the IEM at 110-120dB, like how they do all the distortion tests
>>100123699This is totally over your head, but that constraint only applies to certain electronic circuits. There's no such relationship that constrains digital filters. And the fact that a crossover is "minimum phase" does not mean that the phase shift is small. A digital crossover can be a zero-phase filter.
>>100123164nozzle is a lot longer on kara than on o2/hana
Had an old thread open and saw mention of the U3 in it. I bought one last month as a backup for my Zen Nano 1GB and Zune 80, and it's not too bad Tossed a 128gb micro SD in it, put my entire collection on it and it works. Mostly. Not all my collection is in MP3, and it does not play some my MP3 files. I'm honestly unsure why some play and some do not, but I've been busy and did not fiddle around too much. Screen has some light bleed, but is bright even on lowest brightness.Did not listen to much on it yet but I can give some albums a listen though and see how long my rechargable AAA battery lasts.
>>100124488How does it sound?
>>100123460>PicThat's not bad, certainly good enough for faffing about with iems
>>100124488I can feel the hiss from looking at the picture.
I'm going deaf. An FFT band-stop filter above 15 kHz is inaudible to me.
>>100124681Haha. Its just the headphones silly (it is always the headphones it is not your hearing. your hearing is just fine it is perfect and flawless)
>>100124681https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_frequency.php
>>100124681Simgot got another one LMAO
>>100124742I failed a much more sensitive test: toggling the filter on and off with my music playing. The blind test is less sensitive to hearing loss because you can only detect a large difference in the blind. Think about it.
>>100124787Wow it really is fucking over for you then.
>>100124681aren't most over 30 like that anyway?
>>100124653Surprisingly good, in my ignorant opinion. I doubt it would be up to par with audio fanatics tastes, but I liked it. For the price it's pretty good. My Zune trumps it, but my Zune is also in need of repair.
>>100124742This is so hard with tinnitus
>>100124859That's what they say
>>100124742phew im still good at slightly above 16*turns down volume for the night*
>>100120149Fell for that meme years ago Jim. You're not fooling anyone.
Remember when tech was about innovation and going forward? Come home white man.
>>1001238820) phase is literally not audible 1) if by "electronic circuits" you meant any physical object like IEMs or your ears then sure2) if you still want the "correct" phase the correct phase is minimum phase. The only time you want linear phase is when you're a producer and EQ one channel separately from the other and don't want the stereo image to shift(sometimes you still want it to shift).
>>100125037>Remember when tech was about innovation and going forward?That was like 30 years ago.
>>100125330shut up chuzo
>>100121491oh no, it's that brainlet againevery sub-$200 planar and $90 LM has as good techs as variations, chifi is going strides and your collection isn't worth that much anymore, get over it
>>100125346Retard.
>>100125370>every sub-$200 planar and $90 LM has as good techs as variationsTechlet cope. You can't even compete with 1BA.
***IMPORTANT***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipGM1nsplMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipGM1nsplMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipGM1nsplM
>>100125330>phase is literally not audiblePeople just desperately want to find some sound quality metric that is not frequency response. Speakers completely butcher the phase and everyone agrees they sound great.
>>100125466what in the actual fuck>>100125536>phasecuck comparing speakers to iemsfuckin kek
>>100125536speakers are mostly listened to by deaf boomers, they are basically nigger tier muh i wanna feel da bayss
>>100125607>he doesn't want to feel da bassDilate.
>phase
Is there a better alternative to the FiiO K11? I can maybe stretch out my budget to a FiiO K7, but if it's not necessary I can save the 100 bucks.I just need to power some easily driven Sennheisers and Beyerdynamics, but I specifically need a new AMP/DAC to use with my PC and PS3.
>>100125647
>>100125665Apple dongle.
>>100125665That's looks like a really nice unit for the price, I'd look around for reports for hiss with sensitive iems since it doesn't appear to have 50mv measurements. JDS labs atom stack is the standard made in america rec for home use but it's two separate units and lacks the 4.4mm output.
>Order date: Nov 12, 2020Still rocking as my daily driver since then, it's great to stop chasing hype
>>100125755>I'd look around for reports for hiss with sensitive iems since it doesn't appear to have 50mv measurements.I've read a couple of reviews so far and I haven't come across anyone mentioning any discrepancies with sensitieve IEMs. >JDS labs atom stackHard to import to Europe and just not worth it. >lacks the 4.4mm outputYeah, I need this for some of my IEMs.
Adobe Audition is the best music player. Other players don't even compare, you can do just about anything to the tracks in Adobe Audition.
>>100125930>stop chasing hype>spacepos with overpriced case in the same picanon plis
>>100126158What are you doing to the tracks.
>TinnitusThe truth is... you've finally reached your full potential and are now hearing the cosmic background radistion noise. Fear not for you shall soon go silently and the lights of the first stars will astonish you
>>100126202Space travel is great and the case was free becuase they sent me the wrong iem color so they offered me a free care lol
>>100126299analysing the pre harmonic sub bass
i've had tinnitus since i was a single digit child, that one dude who killed himself over getting it is a fucking pussy lmao
>>100125930try this EQ to Dusk DSP, ive been using it for 2-3 weeks and it sounds amazing. i used 5128 graph so the treble is accuratePreamp: -6.4 dBFilter 1: ON LSC Fc 100 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 0.700Filter 2: ON PK Fc 800 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 3: ON PK Fc 1500 Hz Gain -2.0 dB Q 1.000Filter 4: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 5: ON PK Fc 4000 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6500 Hz Gain -6.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 7: ON PK Fc 8000 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 8: ON PK Fc 11000 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 2.000Filter 9: ON PK Fc 15000 Hz Gain 6.0 dB Q 2.000
>>100126599>i used 5128 graph so the treble is accurateBruh.
>>100126714whats the problem?
>>100126722Thinking that treble on graphs is accurate.
>>100126769well in case theyre not the q values are very low
>>100126784The frequencies will be shifted depending on the insertion depth, the tips and the length of your ear canal. In my ear with my insertion depth for example there would be peaks at 10500 and 14500 and your EQ would just boost them.
>newfags still falling for the graph treble meme my sides, dead everytime
>>100126808its a known fact that blessing 2 lacks air. its not weird to boost those frequencies
All you'd have to do to know 5128 is dogshit is to take two dissimilar iems and EQ them to the same FR on 5128. They will sound drastically different. I suppose some people can't afford 2 pos though lmao.
>>100124488Surfans f20/aigo/hifi walker and rockbox it. 20+ hours of battery with the screen on and the CPU basically maxed out from 10 filters of peq. Works as a dac and has usb c dac support in the stock firmware, as well as Bluetooth. I'd say PMPs are solved...until it gets discontinued. Then we'll have to wait another 5-10 years before another chink player miraculously has the right specs and hardware for a rockbox port.
>>100127113damn youre so smart and rich
>>100127501thanks champ
>>100125647Minimum.EQ'd to the 5128 diffuse field with room curve.On Moondrop Chu 2 with Feaulle H570 tips.Transcendent experience, everyone should try it out.
>>100120036Thanks for reminding me to use them again. Yeah, they are literally perfect for $20.
>>100126342you don't even hear the estats of your pos (which you don't own)
>>100126599>chuzo bought the duskthe last bastion of Minimum Phase has fallen
>>100127610bellsing*
>>100123565Mathematics say that if you want to affect the amplitude without affecting the phase then your filter must be able to see into the future.
>>100122865Thank you, didn't have any super glue on hand tho, but was able to remove it by hand
>>100128370>he doesn't use time travel based eqngmi
I think my KZ ZS10 Pro X are finally starting to go badWhat could be a similar replacement?
Hola is now discontinued and completely out of stock everywhere.
>>100128480It's truthover.
Any of you have the tinhifi c2? I think these are the perfect ding-a-lings to replace my ZS10
>>100128419>using time travel based eq>when you can use space travel based eq
>>100128787What's the difference.
>>100128824the kike on the pic doesn't know that there's no Moondrop Time Travel
>>100122358>Headphones.comRetard science, don't trust.
>>100123660peak gunpro
>>100128921You don't need science to hear that moondrop's dsp cable is garbage.
>>100124681That’s p normal if you’re 25+
when did america annex china?
Aaaaa mai tanchjim one is clogged she got the waxx aaaaa I hate iems! shoulda bought earbuds!
Bought the C2, was gonna get them from Linsoul, checked Amazon prices and they were about the same but with the added benefit of faster shipping and better return policy Too much in-fighting in these threads lately
>>100129109take the RW-3000 pill
>>100129337>Too much in-fighting in these threads lately>people who got what they wanted left the general for good>shills fighting each otherNatural
https://www.kztws.com/products/cca-hydro$116 for a Castor on crack LMAOO
>>100129337What if I told you the Autism this general attracts has actually gone down recently?
>>100129712/hpg/ is that way
>>100125930>>100126202>>100126415>anon 1: look at me! I finally stopped chasing the hype. I'm so superior.>anon 2: anon 1, isnt that a recent hype of the month in your pic?>anon 1: you dont understand! this one is great, I swear I'm not chasing the hype like a dumb dogonce again the market wins. also dont forget to consoom every pos in the op list or you wont get the full experience
>>100129791what's the current hype of the month? still the LM?
>>100129801It was supposed to be the Xuan Nu but seems like it's going to be dead on arrival like Hades
>>100129801HP.com clowns are hyping the hisenior mega5est so hard but if you mean budget then nothing noteworthy
>>100129885>>100129956so still LM, got itSimgot really hit the jackpot with it and made a future cult classic
>>100130011lol just boost upper treblehere's your totl techs bro
>>100129791retard
>>100130135lithium-magnesium techs are real
>>100127558The best thing about salespeople is that they don't even have to own But no, I do own the kilobuck
>>100130352where can I find the audio store run by the one and only Saint? I'd like to be honored with making purchases there
>>100129791I can't stop now. I'm addicted to buying random POS.
>>100130420Thieaudio"."com
>>100130542>he's a real thiefaudio shill
>>100130516Simple solution to this is to get an EPZ with a Waifu faceplate and now you'll be so happy, you'll never feel the need to consume another pos again (unless you have a harem then well shit...)
Are the ipod touch 5,6,7 gens any good?
what techs are not:>price>driver material>driver "quality"what techs actually are>good FR with boosted treble>euphonic distortion from a VST plugin>waifu/fox on faceplates
>>100129791its ok if nobody love you, anon
>>100130657garbage, very few audio codecs officially supported and poor integration with the OS when you install software which supports more of them, besides you can't even expand memory
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>>100130722the stuff you sell/shill might be expensive, but in the end of the day it's just another zhing-zhong
Final upgrade for my endgame came in today.It's finally over. I can leave for good.
>>100130693>rockbox>foobar>sd adapterAnything else?
>>100130807>ipod touch>rockboxis it a thing? is it even usable under closed, cucked & bluepilled iOS?>sd adaptertoo clunky, at this point it's better to get an Android phone with a good DAC/amp such as samdungs with wolfson DAC and sd adapter built in
>>100130792best spinshit along with W1
>truthear hexa in my local fb marketplace for $45Worth? Seller claims they didn't use the tip and cable so would that be clean enough?
>>100130930I wouldn't trust any claims by the seller. If its local go visit and check it out and demo it
>>100130792Great tips. If you like them you can also get the NF Audio MS42. Basicly the same, but cheaper and less sticky.
>>100130930No. Truthear and """Reference tuning""" appeals mostly to Jeets because of Amir so it is most definitely NOT clean.
best 2-pin cable for recessed sockets, but with mic?
>>100130930Just wash the tips you disgusting troglodyte.The cable and iems should be fine as long as it wasn’t abused
>>100130875Nope, not a thing. All of those things only apply to the Classic.Although I remember owning Touch back when and still think it's a player with the best UI I ever had.
>>100130930>used IEMsWhat the actual fuck, anon. I know this place is full of mongoloids, but this is too low.
>>100131169https://aliexpress.com/item/1005002822400932.htmlxhinks have more models and they are good nuff
>>100131227I did the needful and buyed used Chu 2
>>100130792Looks like something Flo bundled with their iems for like 2$2 extra https://aliexpress.com/item/4001352349960.htmlStill use them.
>>100130930disgusting.and don't forget that hexa has small holes which means they clog with wax even faster.
>>100130657The only good ipods are the classic 4th through 7th gen, and the Mini second gen (only the second gen can be flash modded) The rest are either too old to be flash-moded stably, or don't support rockbox (specifically some of the Nanos and all of the Touch versions) Also the Nanos are extremely difficult to repair, and have horrifying battery failure rates, the battery failures also damage or destroy internal components due to extremely narrow engineering tolerances, they're mostly e-waste nowdaysiPod touches are moderately difficult to repair, but can be jailbroken, though aren't really moddable like the classicsAlso the classics have the best DACs
>>100133026>can be jailbrokeneven then they're massively inferior to a rooted android and for an average user also worse than stock android, both as music players and as general purpose PDAs, which makes them completely obsolete
>>100133124True, the touch is basically just e-waste
Like SpinFit but cheaper & better.Why isn't this on the recommended list????
>>100125665I don't know how it compares to the Fiio, but I've been running a JDS Labs Atom DAC and amp since 2021 and I'm really happy with them. No cool digital display, but the sound is great. Using Sony MDR-V6 headphones.
>>100133873Kinda mid, long stem, deeper insertion, narrow neck is a gimmick which doesn't prevent sound blockage if you lay on your pillow, not grippy at all despite deep insertion meaning mediocre seal and it can slide out.
>>100133873had these, the silicone is very mediocre
Finally bought the chu II. Is this pos actually good, or I'm getting memed?Are there any other cheap pos with a cute anime girl on the packaging?
>>100134487yes
>>100134487>chu 2bro...
>>100134487>Is this pos actually good, or I'm getting memedboth>Are there any other cheap pos with a cute anime girl on the packaging?Tanchjim Zero with Tanch herself on the box (no jim though)
tfw nggar wanted to make a collab with simgot and had the prototype ready but shortly after simgot released the LM and even nggar admitted that it completely MOGGED his collab pos, so he cancelled it
>>100134487Stock you're using 30% of its potential. Buy Feaulle H570 eartips and go to the crinacle's B&K 5128 graph tool and EQ it to the DF + room curve tilt then it's endgame.
>>100134487UTTER garbage.It has a small, thick, filter right at the tip of the nozzle so even a small amount of earwax will clog it.
>>100134487there's a reason it isn't on the OP anon
>>100134867Literally worse than not doing anything.
>>100134925three reasons even>filter clogging>nozzle tip rusting>paint chipping offand that's on top of having Moondrop's traditionally horrible QCstill, if one can cope with those drawbacks, it sounds excellent, to the point I'm still yet to find a better pos that sounds so pleasing to me, be it $20, $100, $500 or kilobuck area, chu 2 just has its own character, that distinct crunch that I haven't found in other sets yet
$7 d-fi is better than chu 2
>>100135072Shut up tyvan
>>100120149Bold of you to assume I exclusively use iems.>Go back to /hpg/
>>100135084tyvan gains nothing by selling his d-fi for $7
>>100135160He gains $7.
>>100134487It's excellent. Advise you to EQ it because it can sound bit shouty and piercing.
>>100135169I'm pretty certain the BOM of d-fi is pretty close to that, not considering all he paid for the tooling for the metal parts.
Are there any bluetooth to 2-pin IEM adapters that aren't complete garbage yet?Anyways, I can report that the EPZ Q1 Pro is pretty good. I'm not le goldenears enough to give a full critique, but they sound nice to me with lots of detail, and fit comfy.
>>100135230define complete garbage because for someone else it could be more than adequate
kinda funny seeing chuzos getting raped by their own logic if fit and low distortion is only what matters then 7$ d-fi btfos the shit out of chu ii
>>100135267>oh no this mcchicken price iem blows out this mcmenu price iem out of the waterget a job retard
>>100135285This is his job.
chu 2 is shit get the LM
>>100135285why u so upset bro, it is chill monday I see no difference between these two, why would you pay a triple price for the pos you can get much cheaper
>>100135265>doesn't color or noticeably alter the sound of the IEMs attached to it, compared to a typical wired DAC>lightweight enough to wear for an hour or so while moving around without making ears hurt>a few hours worth of battery life>non-earrape volume steps (I've noticed this one in particular is surprisingly difficult for chink bluetooth audio to figure out)>pairing and on-ear controls work at least a majority of the timeThese are my standards. I hope they aren't too hard to meet.
KZ should make kilopos, they can do 12 drivers for $100 so they can do 120 drivers for $1000, just imagine the techs.
>>10013543920000 drivers for $10k, one driver per hertz
>>100135439>>10013546720 drivers in the shell, 1 driver makes the sound.
>>100135489all drivers make the sound, it's just 19 of them play it in -48dB
>>100120036>>100127547Hey that's my pic! Hola supremacy. And speaking of cheap chinese shit, my Sonata HD PRO dongle broke, what's the state of the art non-CS43131 USB-C DAC/AMP? (looking for non CS43131 cause cheaper and I don't really need the DSD or 384khz 32-bit playback). Basically I'm looking for something like the Apple Dongle (and it is in fact one of my options right now).
microplanars are worse than BAs right?
>>100135676nothing is worse than BAs
>>100135676here's B3 vs Dusk and the two drivers look almost the same
>>100135399the kz az09 pro were basically that minus complete transparency (very faint hiss, only audible in library levels of loudness)
>>100135697BA casings have been repurposed, their content is different
>>100135399TRN BT20 Pro satisfy most (depending on person too) of the listDoesn't color sound as long as your IEMs have flat impedance (multi driver beware)IEMs themselves dictate of they will be comfy or not, earhooks don't matter that much, they are kinda bulky, but didn't bother me when jogging.12h+ battery life, worn the entire Sunday waking hours and it didn't ran out.Volume steps are shit I must admit, probably 11 steps or something.Pairing is stupid easy, they got it right, and just put them back in charging case instead of turning off manually.
someone teach this bitch how to iron her clothes wtf
>>100135908I'm calling we're 2 years away from chinese IEM manufacturers to start advertising using actual elementary schoolers.
who actually likes the bellsinging of BAs? is the metallic sound of their casings pleasant to someone? do we crave distortion?
>>100136209For me its sonion mids and knowles highs
>>100136313Tea 2?
Any advice on software for Windows that I can use to convert my collection to bog standard MP3? Preferably something I can start on a second machine and just let run without much input on my part.
>>100136371foobar has a converter built in, it works wellif you want to automate it, lrn2 scripting and ffmpeg
>>100136209It's the anime waifu and the $300 price tag that people crave.If you sell bellsings 3 under KZ brand it would suddenly sound unbearably metallic and harsh, like how ZEX Pro's BA timbre despite BA not doing jackshit.
>>100136371I use Foobar's convertor, probably the best LAME UI.1) https://www.foobar2000.org/download2) Throw in ur music3) Select all --> convert --> make an MP3 preset --> go jerk off or something
i want to buy stuff bros, i just want to spend and track my package and do hours of research knowing all too well that this is just pointless consumerism and that after 4 days and 17 hours, what I just bought and waited for anxiously and opened up excitedly will lose its luster and shine and end up being another item, another reminder of uncontrolled materialistic impulses that not only make me feel vapid joy, but even worse, yearning for something meaningfulso yeah i just bought some whizzer ss20 tips, feeling good
>>100136392>>100136415Thank you, Anons.
>>100136665Been tracking my waners almost daily for 2 weeks its finally coming tmr lets gooo
>>100136665I even leave a "contactless delivery" note for my shipments for a drop-off without a signature, the idea of my shit getting stolen while I am at work really cranks me up, although I live in a peaceful neighborhood and none of my packages have been stolen so far. Btw I can just order it to be dropped to a code-locked delivery hub 5 minute walk time.
Odd question but what IEM would be closest to DT990 Pro?
>>100136856Any KZ + remove the filter
>>100136856With worn pads the DT990 is the smoothest headphone out there so it's very hard to find smth similar. But FiR RN6 might be a good call, it has big balls midbass and very smooth.
>>100136958Goblin begone.
Are the Moondrop Starfield any good?
>>100136996No.
>>100137031What about Moondrop Aria Snow Edition?
>>100136996What year is this. It's discontinued. If you meant starfield 2 then no.
>>100137039nigga, it's moondrop and it's not chu 2, don't bother
wow those non-matching fonts look awful!
>>100137093Why did they name themselves awful. Its over before it even began
>>100137039Paint still bubbles like the Aria, why even bother?
>>100137039No. Moondrop is trash that will eventually clog the nozzle filter and the paint will start bubbling/chipping. Tanchjim and Simgot are much better rn.
>>100137071Moondrop CHU II is cheaper than the aria is it better? Just looking to get a good deal>>100137106I am no expert with these things>>100137110Alright
>>100136996>>100137039What youtuber did you watch just now.
>>100137120dreggman
>>100137118anon what's your budget
>>100137174200 dollar.
just look at the rentry and pick whichever one is coolest bro
redeem yu9audio
>>100137179what kind of music do you listen to regularly and also what other iems (if any) have you used before and liked? Do you prefer a more neutral sound? clear? bassy?
>>100137204>deep insertion chink plastic cancerno thanks, i'll stick to 'merican cancer
>>100137188I did and got 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2 but they sound too muddy
>>100137222>I did and got 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2 but they sound too muddynow learn how to read graphs and go from there
>>100137101still a bit better than QVEER
>>100137204I will never put BA pos anywhere near my ears.
How to remove da waxx from filters?
>>100137222It said bassy neutral right on the list, which is code for muddy. Try EPZ Q1 Pro or TRN Conch next. And return the 7Hz x Crinacle Zero: 2 if you paid $25 on Amazon for it.
>>100137222I'd recommend the tinhifi c2 mech warrior if you want something with nice clarity. Otherwise if you're $200 anon I'd recommend the seeaudio yume ii
>>100137584It's surprising that a $35 pos graphs so well. There's a slight excess at 12 kHz, it won't hurt it much.
>>100137409Succ
>>100135467>>100135489>>100135517>>100135439god pls
>>100137850LCP driver like the Aria.
>>100137929>72 drivers>3 way crossoverIt's a joke, worse than the usual 18-drivers with a 3 way crossover.
Sharur is right about Nova with foamtips sounding better than Variations.
chuzo is based
>>100137850yeah it sounds great and can be had usually for $20-25.
yeah but the conch is just better overall considering the accessories
Thoughts on Jiigaat Doscinco?
>>100138496Are you making a video about it?
>>100138496read the graphs retardin general they look fine. looks like any harman-esque pos, it'll be ok
new bread >>100138556
>>100138540He probably has one and he just wanted more opinions.
>>100138489the only time ive ever bought anything from trn it was broken and i returned it, no thanks
